/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/98850533
this is a non pixelated version of the one on the right

>>6098394
Always wondered that myself but its just seems to come down to experimentation with layers, shading, masking and photoshopping. Though I'm not seeing the process of how all these people get to saki mode with their details, but you get the impression it's easy to reproduce because you're tripping over it all the time.

>>6098394
Where the FUCK is your work nigger, this board is not your thinktank

>>6098417
asking questions is allowed

Airbrush + soft eraser + lasso + blend + blur + layer mode

>>6098427
thanks ill try this

>>6098394
Less thinky, more painty. Methinks this another excuse not to actually do the work. Cuzzz you know that’s the only way you get the results on the right. Not by endless overthinking about nothingburger shit.

>>6098427
The second row sums up the in between process nicely. Post appreciated.

>>6098455
he's asking because he doesn't know the techniques involved, painting more of what he knows won't get him over that obstacle.

>>6098455
Retard

>>6098427
Do you have anymore of these? This looks super helpful thnx!

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>>6098595
Are you the guy that made the videos of these studies? I think you'd make a good audience from them, your process is very thorough.

>>6098599
No I just saved these from /ic/

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>>6098607
love it when /ic/ actually delivers some precise and ultra useful content, ty for sharing Anon
i hope someone does an entire thread of these process "timelines" in the future so we can stop throwing shit at each other relentlessly without productive knowledge posted

>>6098417
you are poison

>>6098427
I tried it

>>6098602
I liked the end result and tried to follow the '99% hard round brush' and to make smooth gradients purely off erase and playing with opacity. And it just feels so freaking inefficient - soft shading on overlapping shades means each shade needs its own layer and you must gradient/erase them each, and this anon's step 2>3 requires the you to cover the body in middle shade regardless so you can erase out the form, making step 2 useless? The gradients I point out in picrel will also take forever to erase out through a mid shade, dark shade, and value overlay layer when you can just gradient with a texture brush and be done with it. It's still doable with enough time/patience and playing with opacity, but fuck me if anon says that's possible with 99% hard brush ONLY in 20 minutes (disregarding the last step, where anon mentioned texture brush). It's like a super long winded digital way of charcoal painting where you 'erase' out the form, but now do it in 3 layers... Step 3 with hard+soft brush takes 5-10min on 2 layers (fill>value) for me, and 15-20min on 4 layers (fill>overlay value>midshade>darkshade) for the same result if you stick to hard brush+eraser as anon claims.
If I'm off as fuck, feel free to prove me wrong

>>6099521
You will never be a woman.

>>6099539
I don't want to be a woman
You should try drawing or return to /b/asement dwelling

>>6098394
This book shows the whole process. Layer modes used, brushes, colors, etc. And you can download csp files, brushes and lineart from the website, they provide the link.

>>6099574
is there a good programfor reading this in english or should I just go ahead and get my phone out and scan it one page at a time

>>6098427
>tutorial
>rough sketch is 100x better than my finished art

>>6098455
kill yourself crab

>>6099574
is it not on exhentai? Couldn't find it.

>>6098427
Why can't fucking faggot quirky artist girls just use Text tool in Photoshop!!!!!!
Why do you have to write instructions with your fucking stylus
I CANT DECIPHER THESE SCRIBBLES!!!! BITCH WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY

WTF IS "Erase, adpirat"
what is "nadet blur"
Are you a doctor?!

This is so insufferable
if you're making a tutorial for people to learn from maybe you should've put the tiniest bit of effort to make it more digestible

>>6099680
You don't need the text, it is not really useful. Just check the layer mode and brush used.
>>6099931
https://e-hentai.org/g/1977563/dcf68ca023/

Good thread. Thank you for your pictures, lads.

>>6098602
Same retard anon who was complaining in >>6099521, did some more practice and research.
Anyone trying this can look at https://youtu.be/yT1s8Mg5R68 for a similar style in video form, sans overlay layer. Seeing the video process helped make it clearer. Going to redo the tutorial

ogre have layer

>>6101231
why does line and default colors look better than everything else?

Instead of cel shading you soften the edges?

>>6101234
Because you are brain damaged

>>6101192
Imagine actually doing a gorillion layers of hard round meme instead of actually learning to paint

>>6101254
default colors looks better

Same shit just with blending. Ic please...

>>6101320
>subsurface scattering
>blue-hued bright areas
>texture map overlays
>bounce lights
>is that fucking chromatic aberration on her hair resting on the seat
'same shit just with blending'
Not like OP's pic is some masterpiece, but could you be any more vague or condescending?

>>6101381
>>6098394

Dear OP,

When you learn to draw anything representational (stuff that looks like stuff, the opposite of abstract) you learn it all the same way, through the fundamentals of art. To learn how to draw like x you learn to draw, full stop. When you start to study the process of putting a figure or background or whatever with forms that look 3d, you will understand that that style, as with any other styles, are derivative of the fundamentals that every artist learns.

I would suggest starting with one of the many beginner books that have been recommended here and by the beginner artist community in generals. Our artbook thread will have links to copies of those. Skim through the ones you find promising and get practicing. The learning process, as with most hobbies, needs both learning and practical sessions to "embed" the skill you learn.

Following this post, given the history of these threads, will be arguments over your taste, "west v east" and, tutors or even entire fundamentals being called "memes" and "useless" and perhaps even some more advice. Not to claim to know whether these are "right" or "wrong", I would just suggest to give each a try before letting another anon confuse you further.

All the best,
Anon

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>>6098607
you are doing God's work, thanks a lot anon

>>6099959
Sorry to say this anon but if you haven't already mastered the latest French techniques of adpirat and nadet you're ngmi.

>>6098607
Lamberts law isn't being used here.

>>6101425
Shut up retarded faggot, your attempts to be the class clown always appear pathetic

>>6101425
>OP's baby brain is too smooth, anon's big boy words will confuse it
>go thru every book in /beg/ and you will one day learn to render picrel
>everyone other than me likely schizo or troll
>>6101381
>could you be any more vague or condescending
anon delivers!

>>6101254
Nah he's right

>>6101234
I'll tell you why, it's because even though EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOOD, he ruins it by using unprofessional lighting, the light source is essentially behind the character. A professional would put the light source in front of the character.

>>6103134
yep i didnt know the science behind it but i've been consooming anime/manga for more than 20 years, so i immediately feel put off by silly mistakes like that

>>6098427
>want to learn
>can't focus because salivating over fat thighs and tummy
shit resource

>>6099959
>he doesn't know about adpirat

>>6101234
The first two are very easy to read, the later ones clutter the portrait with details and multi-level shading.

Readability is very important when it comes to appeal.
It makes it so that less effort is required to immerse oneself into an image.
However, while details essentially always hurt the readability of your work and make immersion more difficult, if you manage to immerse yourself in something more detailed, the immersion itself will pay off much more.

>>6101234
the 3rd one looks best to me
I swear ambient occlusion alone always looks co cool and three dimensional but then the finished product somehow doesnt look as good despite inlcuding the AO layer

>>6098395
ty

>>6098417
Die