/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6053422
I used whiteout today to remove an ink line that I couldn't otherwise artistically morph or do anything with.
I'm so fucking ashamed!

>>6053422
>>6053691
Moving it on here since I posted that before this new thread was made.

>>6053422
still doing the write and draw a comic in 10 days because i got rona challenge
this page was qutie easy compared to the others. Realizing i need to be much more sketchy when sketching the sketch.

Does fapping to twinks make me gay? They all pretty much look like girls

>>6053834
whatever makes you sleep at night u fucking faggot

>>6053834
yeah
whatever
own it
i wanna fuck cute dudes too
being a little gay doesn't mean you want to suck a beefy dude's cock or some shit.
just how liking women doesn't mean you want to fuck fat/ugly/manly chicks.
for me, i'm not that attracted to many people.
those few people i find cute, i have an instinct to dom them and cuddle them, doesn't matter if they're male or female.

Sometimes I have moments where I see various artists online working on imagination works such as illustrations,designs and comics while I still mainly practicing fundies and such while doung some made up stuffs here and there.
And then I ask myself when my time will come so I can be like them,meaning mostly fuck around with imagination work without the fear of getting worse...And I come up without any answer.

>>6053985
Well it took tableguy around 2 years of grinding fundamentals and studying

>>6053985
i know how you feel
but you don't have to fear getting worse
there isn't going to be a point where you're suddenly like "well i'm good enough now, time to make the stuff i've always wanted to make"
try to make cool imaginative works figure out how to do things as you go by doing little studies for those pieces and using references to fix stuff.
you gotta be figuring out how to make cool imaginative stuff *now*, using whatever resources you can. that's what you want to do, so it's what you gotta do more than anything else.
over time you'll get better at it and will need references and resources less and less.
but no matter what you're always in the mindset of making imaginative stuff, you're always improving at doing *that*.
IMO grinding fundies slowly increases your general skill but it mostly gets you better at grinding fundies, not making cool art, yknow what i mean?
your studies and practice can all be directed at making actual art pieces.

>>6054003
Tableguys is a rare case of high skill, higher creativity and absolutel irredeemable shit taste.

>lolicon porn can't be reported in the /lgs/
Why are jannies literally protecting pedophiles on this board but no other general gets similar provisions put in place?

>>6053422
Man I've been drawing daily all year but this past week I've really slowed down.
I just don't have the motivation, but more important I just feel physically dead. Like forget art, I barely have the energy to stay alive.
Both are combining to make my art production suffer though, there's nothing I want to draw and my body hurts so I just scribble some nonsense down and call it a day.

vtubers were a big motivator for me because lots of interaction + fan response to fanart, but i've kinda burned out on them.
and because i'm tired i'm not even horny enough to draw porn.

>>6054110
Because they're pedos themselves, dingus. /lsg/ is the most well protected general on the board.

>>6054110
because jannies fuck kids for dinner

>>6054129
>>6054139
>/lsg/ is the most well protected general on the board
This is so fucking bullshit for how few people actually draw in that general. If one general gets good moderation, this whole BOARD should have good moderation too.

>>6054164
to be fair the glowies should always be keeping an eye on them

>>6054174
I agree but it stil would be nice to have something done about all low quality/ off topic posting that goes unanswered dispite dragging down the quality of the board daily.

Why are the jannies going out of their way to ignore reports and protecting the pedos and furfags? Their generals are just porn now.

>>6054095
I honestly lost what little respect I had for Tableguy.

He's gone full schizo defending both /lsg/ and /fag/ while shitting up other threads, projecting his illness on others for not wanting to see his autistic Sonic OC porn.

Here's my proof incase anyone doubts that >>6054110 is fake, try it yourself

>>6054658
>select post with image
>select post without image

I am able to send reports fine.

The issue is jannies are refusing to do anything about this shit, images as well as catbox links.

>>6054605
I was pulling your leg man. It’s a red board. Also, I have never made an OC before and I was really excited, but you guys are such prudes i dont even know what to say. I’ll just wander back to alt where I can be alone with my crickets.

The other generals on ic are so walled off, i dont have the energy to make new anonymous internet NPC friends and figure out the micro thread culture. Honestly it’s probably the same 4 dudes.

>his autistic Sonic OC porn
The sonic mouse was hilariously disliked. It flatlined so hard when I posted it. I think it’s one of my most disliked drawings, and because I don’t understand why people don’t like it, this problem will never be solved.

>>6054095
I’m fully aware of my shit taste. I dont know how to fix it. It’s like I enjoy eating really shitty gas station food and i keep bringing it to potlucks and being upset when nobody else wants to eat it.

>>6054892
I dunno man, if you used a part of your brain just once you would realize /fag/ and /lsg/ has been on /ic/ for 2 years now and if it was a legitimate, not supposed to be here, problem then the powers that be would have axed those generals a long time ago. Hasn't happened yet, now has it?

all of you fags trying to enforce rules should post your work

>>6053422
Some food for thought from one of th best guitarists ever

>>6054908
Honestly man i think you should keep posting your autistics ocs in the oc thread, it's literally like two dudes that came out of nowhere recently who have come from nowhere to over policing the general for some fucking and though your creation are the antithesis of cool and sexy I'd rather see your art than their faggy whining anyday of the week.

>>6055001
Its not about outlawing the generals its about jannies allowing people to side step rules. Either allow all of it on ic or ban it full stop.

>>6055363
waah waah bitch more, loser.

>>6054658
Kys tranny

>>6055366
I remember when the mods cracked down on a lot of this shit little over two years ago, how much of a meltdown it caused when the hammer finally dropped. It took a lot of reports from anons, but when it dropped, it dropped like a mother fucker.

Keep this shit up, we'll do it again.

>>6055659
Nobody loves you, you are going to be alone even when you are sick, nobody is going to pass you a glass of water, you are going to rot in loneliness and passing by as someone that life has forgotten.
And why?
Because you are a troon.
Simple as.

>>6055659
>Keep this shit up, we'll do it again.
lmao, LOL even

you have a great day now, tranny.

>>6055666 #
>>6055700 #
I'm quite confident in my masculinity, and a fair amount of us enjoy a little cheesecake here and there. Yet given how easily /lsg/ has broken down in the face of crabs and criticism, can't say the same for you.

By the way, how many times have you bitchbois resorted to this as we keep finding trannies and pedophiles in your servers while you try sneaking into others to escape your self-inflicted shitholes? Case in point, pic related.

sure is a alot of pedophiles projecting in this thread all of a sudden.

Why does no one respond to my posts? :'(

>6055783

>>6055783
Which ones?

>>6053753
>guy
>cute
Ah, so this is the future

>will never be able to post my shit on /ic/ because I exclusively draw mlp-related shit (most of it porn)
GR15 was a mistake.

Is really hard to juggle multiple projects at once. I'm working on something for MC and trying to write a comic. But if I don't waste 6 hours flying around minecraft in creative making sure the game doesn't shit his pants or things looks okay I go weeks drawing all day without even touching the project.

The clock really doesn't fucking stop, feels like the begging of the month was two weeks ago. Fucking Saturn bastard, he will pay for this one day.

>>6056568
stop playing minecraft

>>6056572
I'm not playing, I barely play the game. I make texturepacks and stuff for it so I can learn 3D modelling, programming and shit.

The duality of /ic/

>~$10k paycut
>forcing us to a new schedule of fulltime 6 days/week right after that
Is this a "black company"? I feel like I'm in one
This place used to be so stable but the CEO has just been a nutjob lately

I feel like I sobered up and realized how shitty my art is and now I cant even draw one line without it looking wonky and wrong. Can't even draw a circle anymore, its like I have cerebral palsy.

>someone writes code for a computer
>it outputs "hello world"
>I copy paste the code
>it outputs "hello world"

>someone draws a thing
>I trace it exactly as it appears
>looks like complete shit

how

this makes ZERO sense. I've seen messy art that looks better than "perfect" art.

>>6056840

Contrary to what the 'westoid' construtionlet meemers like to spout here, good artists are always thinking about the structure underneath even by alluding to it in the sketch while combining their intuition. You can't copy the instinct aspect, that comes from the soul. And like (most) souls, each individual soul can express a varying degree of emotion.

You can listen to this while you draw to get what I mean on the aspects of soul and emotion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XF71YswCs

Some artists just simply have more of this ability than others no matter how many textbooks or courses one hoards.

>>6056846
>ability

I should say access to. A willingness to tap into the the creative pool and the assistance of your muse.

The "Director of Operations" has informed me the employment contract for the game design program is in the process of being finalized. She and the CEO will be discussing it over the next week. I should have it in writing sometime next week.

She's been dealing with the death of a family member and is just coming back from her stay with the surviving members. Wished her the best, and let her know that everyone on board has her back during this difficult time.

I enjoy doing commissions, but earning $3,000-$4,000 one month, then $700-$1,000 the next wasn't enough to live on. Especially with how unstable it is.

I busted my ass grinding out a two year curriculum in six months, with the fear of the opportunity falling through almost a constant. The fear of losing over two years in vain for a shot at some financial stability to build wealth and other sources of income on top of. This confirmation the CEO's offer, from a person who has been a hell of a help getting settled there, almost finalized? Helps a great deal.

Curious, does anyone else have the autism like me to make periodic "time capsule" videos on how you draw in that current point in time, explaining your process to your future self just in case life situations happen and you need to stop drawing for a while? It's like a record of your methods or a safe file of sorts.

>>6056840
>>I trace it exactly as it appears
lol

Been wanting to make a gabequse thread where i just spilling guts my about my inadequacies as an artist so badly.

>>6053422
Anyone play doodleordie?

It's so bizarre when youtubers who you subbed to way back in the day (a decade ago) and who got memory holed from your brain post a video.

>>6053422
I put 6 years into art hoping it would change my life, and ultimately I've come to he conclusion I just can't do it for a living, I want to do art for fun, make stuff I like, not turn it into a stressful artmonkey job with tight deadlines. Have to get a new job soon at 28 and just feeling like holyfuck it sucks only being able to do restaurant work, I don't really have an interest in any career.

I just wish life would cut me some slack and things would have just fallen into place.

I'm currently working on two comics, one as a junior with a whole art team, and one solo. I really enjoy the art team work way more.

The lead is good at her job and is good at coming up with fun things to make the juniors draw, but it really just kind of exposes how terrible I am at layout and making fun things to draw for my own work, too.

>>6059413
CollegeHumor?

>>6059452
why not go into fine-art gallery painting?

>>6059479
what a good job you have

>>6056857
congrats

Gonna stop looking for approval and finally gonna start working today.

>doing anything that's not drawing
wtf i just want to draw so badly
>go to desk preparing to draw
*suddenly sleepy*

>>6056780
Quit as soon as you can. Don't let them get away with that.

Why no one share my full OC stuff
I can barely make 20likes, I feel bad for the one who commissioned

>>6060007
stop sending this gif
i like to jerk off to trannies

>If you're on a break after drawing
Usually I draw when I am on a break from shitposting.

I few weeks ago I got a new follower on Twitter. I looked at the account, and it was empty. The account had no followers, and the only account that it was following was me. This was really odd, I thought. But I thought that it was just a new account.
I just looked again, and the account is still empty and the only account it's following is still me. This is spooky.
What is this account? A bot? A bot is likely, but for what reason? What function would a bot like this serve? What does it gain from creating an empty account that's only following me?
Do you have accounts like this following you? What is it?

>>6060764

It could be.............................a stalker.

>>6060764
Sorry that was me, I'm exclusively sexually attracted to women that post on /ic/ and I make a new twitter account to follow each one so they don't know I'm following other women.
Can you post some feet soon please.

>>6060769
What do I do about this? I don't care that this is a stalker, but I'm very curious as to why someone would do all that just to follow yet another permabeg.
>>6060776
I'm a man.

>>6060782
Ew! I'll unfollow you right now.

>stopped trying to daytrade in stock market and just set up a longterm-ish position
>already went back to drawing
Feels good mangs

>>6054908
>It’s like I enjoy eating really shitty gas station food and i keep bringing it to potlucks and being upset when nobody else wants to eat it.
>brings a box of slim jims to a potluck
>gets mad when no one eats them
you seem very unreasonable

I used to upload daily drawings until my brother found my account and started making fun of me (for drawing, not even for the art being bad) and only years later do I realize what a fucking retard I am for letting him ruin my fun. The guy's a burnout wagecuck whose only friend, our mother, still tries to avoid him and I let him make me feel bad. Don't be like me. Have your fun. I'm starting my daily art account up again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krj9W17RnMw
I can't fucking take it, my hands are killing me, I can't focus, my mind is a fucking mess and no matter how coffee I drink or what I do I'm just so fucking tired all the time, I'm a fucking neet, how I'm so fucking tired?

I keep thinking in setting things on fire, is half what of my thoughts are and the other half is just me trying to keep my shit together. I just have piece while drawing but is been so hard to keep wake just so I could do that little. I have been thinking in sealing some of my stuff since I have no money and buying caffeine pills, that should solve my problem for now since I don't think actual coffee is cutting anymore. Sorry if this makes not a lot of sense, keeping focus has been a bitch the last three days.

My back hurts so much
I can't find a decent position to draw in holy fuck.

>>6053422
I've been doing a lot of thinking lately... For the past year I've had this huge identity crisis over who I "should" be as an artist and what I "should do" or what my "thing" should be. I've been keeping to my studies while I try to figure it out and suddenly it hit me: My art is whatever I want to to be.
It's such a dumb thing to say but I finally feel free lol

i've been dicking around and exploring digital music production when i'm taking a break from drawing and boy is it hard! with pen&paper, art software or real instruments i could get visible/audible results in seconds but these labyrinthine daws are filtering me

>>6062831
How did he find it? I'm somewhat paranoid that the same will happen to me.

>>6062831
>The guy's a burnout wagecuck
You scared me for a minute there until this bit. I am NEET, so it couldn't possibly have been (you). Then again you'd be eternally embarrassed if one close to you were to find out your porn fetishes.

Got diagnosed with severe ADD and will be on ritalin or another methylphenidate by june, anyone taking something like that while drawing?

>only 0.05% of people who saw this drawing liked it

>>6063111
I thought that too but then I made my fetish gallery available for my friends and siblings and they are really supportive. Sucks to live in puritan country, I suppose.

>>6063181
Twitter is not best place for lewd art if you want commitment. People use it with their real names and/or IRL connections and deal their every day life stuff there. My Twitter and FB don't get lot of traction but Pixiv and DA where's it at because people are more comfortable to use them for smut.

>>6063187
that art was not lewd or suggestive in any way

>>6063191
>art was not lewd or suggestive in any way
Found your problem. But yeah, I imagine SFW artists have their own rocky path. Good luck with that.

>>6059515
>fine-art gallery painting
>making art for fun and doing stuff you like
Hmmmmmmmm

Anyone else notice /ic/ does not have an active archive/backup of full size image uploads since april when fireden stopped working?
Everything posted here is just being lost forever now...

>>6063053
are you a big breasted female? can I DM u?

>>6063226
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/

Is our last hope

>>6063350
Thank you anon, I can fix my 4chanx links now.

On free days:
>watch lectures/read books 1-2hrs
>do studies based on them 2hrs
>do own stuff 2hrs

on work days:
>come back from work
>stare at wall for 4 hours
>go to bed

not making me depressed at all, because of this i will be quitting my job and only work part time as long as its financially viable, I'm fucking done working my ass off for corporate just to have every bit of soul drained out of me

>spend more than a year in job search hell after graduation
>finally land a series of interviews at a government firm 20min from home
>got the job offer today
I feel like I should be ecstatic, my only other option was a 1.5+hrs drive and this place has better pay and benefits.

Yet, all I can feel is dread over my comfy NEETdom finally ending. The last year has been the most productive I've been my entire life, being able to focus 100% on art was amazing.
It feels like I'm just hopelessly marching towards the death of my progress as an artist.

>>6063181
20.000 are probably bots and web-crawlers.

>>6063515
I'm the same, applied for multiple government jobs, did successful interviews and am on a waiting list now that could be called up at any time, could be days, weeks, months.
I feel extreme pressure to find a way to make money with art asap. I don't think I'm ready. I struggle to make finished portfolio pieces and just keep doing isolated studies.
but I know from experience that working a full time job leads to me just being brain dead when I get home and wanting to chill. Getting home after work and drawing for 4 hours just isn't gonna happen.

Really wish universal basic income was a reality so artists could just train in peace. Current NEET bux I'm on come with requirements to search for a job, constant harassment from job agencies and shame from family and friends.

>>6063530
I heard of some guys here waking up super early and drawing before going to work, have you considered trying that?

>>6063528
but that's really weird since all my other posts usually get like 60 impressions and this one jumped to 20000

>Love an artist's work
>They only have Twitter
>90% of their Media tab is gacha rolls/tokyo revengers/anime/food/pets/reaction gifs

>>6064025
Fuck any artist that uploads images other than their art. No one gives a fuck about your shitty life, post more art.

>>6064111
Twitter isn't a gallery.

>>6064119
It is if you only post art. Leave the shitty discord memes in discord.

>>6064120
I disagree; it's just not designed that way. If the artist doesn't have a blog that is a gallery that's their dumb problem.

>>6064128
If you wanna say twitter is a shitty platform for art then I agree but that doesn't mean making it even shittier by clogging up your media feed with memes is somehow a good idea.

>>6055666
Weird how pedos pretend the people that hate them are trannies.

Anon, everyone hates pedos, and most trannies are also pedos.

>>6063106
The man simply missed his calling as the FBI's best agent. I swear if you give this guy a blurry photo, he'll find who's in it, all of their social media, and their address.

>>6063111
It wasn't even porn. At least that would have made sense for me to be ashamed of. I just do watercolors of nature. Absolutely stupidest thing to be ashamed of, not that any of you should be ashamed of your art even if you are a full on degenerate.

I'm going to make a twitter account to post my bad art and possibly stalk >>6062831

What the hell do art majors do all day?
I'm in school for stem but when I look at the twitters of art majors at my school 9/10 times they're permabegs, even seniors/juniors
I'm a beg myself but at least I'm not paying 30k+/yr to be beg, the hell do they do all day? Not an "art school" but still have a lot of people doing art related stuff

>>6065489
Hardly any undergrads take their major seriously, not just art

>>6065510
but in other majors they're forced to get better through hw/exams, do art majors just get a free A in everything because muh art is in the eye of the beholder?
also thought people majoring in art would be passionate about it, but they seem to just pump out garbage

>>6065489
If you just follow the curriculum for 99% of art schools you are guaranteed to come out high beg at best.
Even in art schools that are trying to teach you fundamentals instead of bullshit fine art and theory, they will take a 12 week course and spread it out over 8 months.
They don't expect you to do hours and hours at home and they have no competitive standards for quality. if you hand in the work and it meets the brief you are going to get the same pat on the head as the guy who spends 300 hours on the assignment.
You also tend to do everything ONCE. You paint an illustration for a children's book ONCE. You do one session on torso+ribcage anatomy, one session on leg & feet, one session on hands and arms, one session on the skull. That's it, that's your anatomy study for the entire year.
You learn about 1 point, 2 point and maaaaybe 3 point perspective and do a drawing of your bedroom once.

It's a bunch of "tick the box and move on" stuff. If you don't self study and research then you are doomed. You spend so many hours on the college curriculum that you feel like you are doing something so you have no motivation to self study, you put your trust in the art college and teachers. Then you wake up 4 years later and you still can't draw and its time to get a job doing something completely unrelated cause you are unemployable.

>>6063053
do you slouch or is it from an injury? I started having crazy back pain over the past year from slouching. Still working on it, but being more aware of posture, daily stretches & back strengthening exercises have been helping bit by bit.

>>6063323
Just a skinny man
>>6065758
I do a lot of digital now, back when I had a big tilting desk (and my own apartment) doing trad this wasn't much of an issue

I ended up buying a kneeling chair, just got it today. IDK if it's the newer cushion but it's a lot better than the standard office chairs I tried. A bit tiring but at least it's not painful.
It's difficult to slouch in, or be in any other position than the one it wants you to be in for that matter.
I'll test it over the month and see where it takes me.

I went through artists who make CGI pics of the fetish I draw to ask how much it is to access their paywalled stuff to use as reference and because after starting to draw I have had hard time to fap to drawings anymore since I keep focusing on technical aspects of the pics. Thought I'd support the creators too while I'm at it but the lousy cretins gave me google drive links to their stuff for free because I'm an artist of the same genre. Made me feel VIP.

>>6065553
>If you just follow the curriculum for 99% of art schools you are guaranteed to come out high beg at best.
lol i wish. agree with the rest of your post though

>>6065489
Terrible teachers, terrible classes, terrible work ethic on the student's part. Most of my classmates don't even know who Loomis or Bridgman are

I find an artist that draws the exact same way I ultimately want to draw in, same body type but exaggerated even more, but they do the exact same thing every time and yet..40k followers. And yet here I am I deleted all my art a few days ago because I wasn't happy with what I was doing thinking I wasn't doing anything appealing. My last piece (finally) got traction more than usual. I was beating myself up over nothing I think.

Maybe I'm just overthinking it like usual. Maybe it's okay to do the same type of thing over and over.

>>6063538
>I heard of some guys here waking up super early and drawing before going to work
Nta, but I personally find it hard to focus and commit to serious practicing if I have another thing coming up during the day..
For example I had a dentist appointment in the afternoon, I just downloaded new brushes all morning instead of practicing. It's so stupid, I wish I could get rid of this mindset

>>6066618
i used to have a kneeling chair, i still ended up slouching regardless
when i got tired of kneeling i sat on my ass on the lower cushion and ended up breaking it so don't do that

>>6063026
Take it easy, ESL. Lay off the caffeine for a bit, get some sun, go for a walk in nature, exercise. Eat better food. Meditate.

>>6053422
I can easily form great ideas and scenarios for potential work in my head.

The moment it comes to actually put it out though, It's like my shit sponge of a brain shuts down.
Right now for instance, I have the idea for a quick comic where a guy is on the run from a succubus who wants to suck his dick.
He retreats to an abandoned lighthouse, all the while having nightmares about said semen demon slowly closing in on his location...you get the picture.
It quick and smutty, and doing it would be good practice for making comics anyway even if the 'story' is shit. But I just can't muster the will to even pick up my screen tablets pen and start even the planning. I'm just not emotionally invested in a short piece of porno comic that would take far longer and more energy to make than it would actually be worth.

>>6054658
everyone should be racist outside of /b/ and call each other nigger

>>6069611
Illegal alien.

Why is drawing also to get a following on social platforms and befriending other artists, assuming you already are working hard and enjoying the craft itself, usually seen in negative light by a lot of people? I've seen artists I know becoming mutuals with more popular artists and getting up to a few thousands followers from 0 in just a year or less, so it's not like it's this impossible of a task, especially if sometimes you draw the occasional fan art of shit you like.

Yet when I tell people it's one of my initial small goals in an honest light and without shame, they start laughing at me and saying i'm delusional. Are they projecting their own failure on other people or what?

anyone else have trouble thinking of which general to post for help

>>6054110
whine some more about cartoons anon im sure the jannies will take action

>>6069843
It's not just art, anon. This is kind of one of those things we do but don't speak of. I'm a hobby artist, but my actual job requires a lot of networking, too. Do I tell people I'm asking them to invite their friend to a party because their friend works at a company I want to work with? Fuck no. Do they probably know? Yeah. You just kind of pretend you have pure intentions. It's stupid, I know.

>still have access to this private gook webforum I paid for a long time ago
>mountain of student work I can copy from enough time passed

>>6063350
AHHHHHHHHHH THIS ARCHIVE JUST WENT DOWN
AHHHHHHHHHH

Im on an artist block.. i always try to draw at least once a week but right now i have no motivation or excitement that i usually get on my deadline

what do you do when you can't feel the form and can't get a single line to stay on the page? It feels like everything i drew before was done by someone else, I cannot even imagine redrawing it.

>drew my waifu 3 times for her birthday
>I'm /beg/ trash so they don't look good and I don't want to upload them anymore

>>6072438
>for her birthday
are you talking about a fictional characters birthday

>>6072440
yes

>>6072443
based autismo, do it for her

I'm just drawing, fapping, eating and cleaning myself before sleeping, I'd question my life if I didn't fuck my girlfriend every 2 days.

Anyone else feel like they're going to kill themselves if they don't draw? Like seriously.

If I don't get to draw "enough" a few days in a row, I get dumb, agitated, impulsive. Last time I ended up hurting myself, it's fucking stupid.
I thought art was my way to de-stress, but turns out it doesn't matter if working peak stress hours or doing absolutely nothing at work.

I get these buzzing thoughts of shame, despair, hopelessness if I don't feel like I did enough in a day. I get nightmares, I can't sleep, it sounds excessively dramatic but I can't help it.

It's like I'm living a non-stop emotional rollercoaster of highs when I feel satisfied and lows and I'm afraid that one day I'm going to do something really stupid I can't fix.

>>6072476
no, but if something happened to where i couldn't draw like my hand was amputated or i had a bad case of tennis elbow i'd probably contemplate unliving myself

>>6072484
I got tendonitis like 2 years ago, couldn't even close my hand for ~4 months.
I've been through a lot of shit but that half-year was absolutely the worst of my life, I felt fucking manic for like half the time

>>6072476
We're crack addicts, except for drawing lol

>>6072476
It's a perpetual "If I don't make it by X date I'm roping myself" mentality that I have. And then when the date comes I don't go through with it and instead cope, come up with an excuse, and extend the date.

>start working out
>get insomnia for the first time in my life
>sleep 3-4 hours twice a day
>feel sleepy all day
>can't focus on drawing at all because I'm tired all day
I'm tempted to start taking headache or allergy pills just to fall asleep for a good solid 8+ hours again for once. I like being fit but sleeping properly feels way better.

>draw something poorly
>someone else posts a stiff Koikatsu screeny
>that koikatsu "artwork" does better than my shitty drawing
>mfw

>spend a year+ drawing /cm/ gay boys and twunks
>try to draw a female
>she looks like an alien
Tits and narrow shoulders just throw me off for some reason

>>6063026
Caffeine will only make things worse. When you stop relying on it, everything becomes a lot clearer, even if life still sucks.

I been improving pretty fast these past few months, even people that I admire have say so... So I'm pretty happy with my art, besides that, my life has been going down hill and the future seems bleak, but hey I can draw cute anime girls

had to unfollow my artist mutual because I got tired of seeing all the quasi-blacked hentai he keeps retweeting

>>6073702
in the future just mute them

>>6073702
are you aware you can disable retweets for an account? dumbass

>>6073710
>>6073722
delet

>>6073727
You made the right choice unfollowing anon, they were too far gone.

>>6065489
Some schools are pseud or bullshit party schools but some have heavier workload. The one I attend is known for its workload and many students drop out, but we do get a lot of begs who are often treated badly by senior teachers with the department head often complaining about declining quality with each grade. Teachers don't usually teach basics because they already expect you to know how, simply there's too many assignments for time to study by yourself outside of the mandated study classes such as figure drawing and painting classes but then it means you only have time to focus on some fundies. Because of this a lot of begs don't have the chance to really study as they are instead always doing finished work. Even then in classes such as figure drawing a lot of it is "just draw" as you need to solve your issues on your own most of the time so those who need more guidance have a rough time improving. There is occasionally required reading with art books depending on your teacher. As
>>6065531 said it's like ticking a box and art school will not prepare you for anything on actually getting pro skill-wise. Most pros in art school are already pro to begin with, are genuinely passionate, or international students (asian jeans).
>do art majors just get a free A in everything because muh art is in the eye of the beholder?
Depends on the school and who your instructor is. Some instructors are soft but others will tear your work up and openly tell you to drop out if they don't think you are good enough to get a job. Many such cases.
>>6067408
>Most of my classmates don't even know who Loomis or Bridgman are
Truth. It's funny because all the professors know, and if you ask them for advice on getting gud they often recommend art books and masters to study from but most students seem to have no interest in learning about these things. Instructors have the knowledge yet students don't take advantage of it.

have gained a small following, it's strange seeing how people apparently think my words have more weight now because of the follow count or the likes my comments get, even if it's just shitposting

I hate that there is no other place to hang out with artists. Every art discord or site is a safespace. Here it's like talking to actual people. The problem is the crab mindset here is vile, people give bad advice and people here don't actually want to put work into improving, they only look for shortcuts, always on the lookout for flowcharts or books to skim read, instead of actually READING "insert a good beginner book" and APPLYing it. Do you know about any community where people actually behave like humans and their goal is to improve their art? Be it discord, or some other sites.

>>6073702
Based
Cucks are scum

>Nearly 40% of American adults aged 20 and over are obese
>71.6% of adults aged 20 and over are overweight, including obesity
>Overall, adult obesity rates are higher for women
do you guys think there's a correleation between the thicc-trend and the growing obesity rate in america?

So I used a poser app the other day, and my drawing came out a ton better than from drawing from imagination.

wow reference makes your drawing better. no way man

>>6075031
Should I buy Design Doll by Terawell?

>>6075038
buy? its free
and no, for a beginner i don't recommend it, it is a shortcut and delays ur growth

>>6072519
try melatonin, also dont work out too late at night or else you cant sleep
>>6074954
100%

>>6075038
just use magic poser lite

>>6074707
i feel you, ic is the only community ive found that is actually engaging, albeit, the crabs and retarded begs with dunning kruger make it painful sometimes. rest assured there is a couple of us on here that are actually improving and studying daily, its just the retarded majority that insists on shitting up the board with their mindless, overconfident perspectives. sometimes ill take time to correct them, but otherwise its just a waste of energy. as far as i know, theres no other community online like ic though, like you said, everywhere else is just beg shit but with extra cushions on the walls.

>>6065489
>at uni
>at stem

can you fuck off easy lifer?

>graduates art sk00l

>despite the intense fucking fear of nobody wanting me, several big name animation studios and one big graphic design studio requests interviews with me for grad night

>professors say I'll be find during interview despite my intense autism

>Basically all the interviews were great and general response was "draw more of this gud shit"

>fair, didn't have much as I was juggling jobs to pay for tuition and not to be homeless

>intense family situation makes me unable to draw for months as not being homeless is kinda more important

>drawing now but legit had a panic attack the other day because I need to post but I'm just scared. Because I'm fucking retarded

>multiple professors, and professionals have told me to reach out to just look over work in the past but I'm too autistic and scared. What if they go "who this? lmfao get out of my inbox"

My autism is holding me back. I'm scared to post and too scared to message because I'm scared I'll come across as autistic. I just want to draw with buddies, and I appreciated that in school.

But I can't make "art friends" if I don't post. I can't get a job if I don't give them my updated portfolio so they know I'm not fucking dead. I just feel like nothing is good enough. Everytime I finish something I think "this is shit and I can do better"

>>6075437
please stop spacing your posts like that

>>6075437
i feel you, also too scared to post anything or apply for jobs. It's irrational

>>6072519
Make sure you don't work out within an hour of going to bed as that can cause issues.
>>6075223
Taking melatonin will cause dependency which will cause your body to stop producing it and needing to take more and more until it stops working entirely.

>>6075460

I'm sorry, I spaced them out because I thought it would be easier to read.

>>6075464
It's so irrational and idk why I keep doing it man. I sent a dm to an old professor on instagram and it took all my courage to even do that. He disabled messages from people he isn't following so it didn't go through. I hope you'll work up the courage to post soon anon.

>>6075437
you can do it buddy, take the leap, worst that happens is you get rejected, if that happens, well back to the drawing board to improve and try again later

>>6075510
this woman lifts with her right arm

>>6075470
as long as you dont use daily its fine, just use it when the insomnia gets worse

So I've read about composition, elements of design, but when it comes to illustrations I never have any ideas. I feel like my head is completely devoid of creativity and ideas when I sit down to work on a piece for myself. If it's a commission and they describe what I want, then I can fill in the blanks, but my own art is so dull and lifeless and I don't know what to do.

>>6075686
alternate book/movie covers

>>6075686
start doing composition studies and dont stop.

>>6053422
Everyone thinks of drawing as this unique thing they have to bring up when I'm around and I feel like if I explained what artists could do or did do in their work people would lose a ton of interest in it so I just keep quiet and let them believe that super detailed pic was actually drawn instead of photobashed

>>6053834
>>6053960
I don't know if twinks and traps are the same but I like traps twinks imo are definitely gay though just petite men traps are girls with dicks and weird voices

Wow Twitter "success" really just is mostly about luck and algorithms isn't it? I gained 50 followers today just for reposting someone else's art tutorial I saved under another post after the creator deleted it. My art usually gets me maybe like 2-3 followers per upload

>>6076026
Luck is cope. Post more, advertise yourself and remember not to post loli on normie sites.

>>6075437
>What if they go "who this? lmfao get out of my inbox"

And what about your situation changes if this happens? Nothing.
Was there anything you could have done to prevent this reaction? No.
You can't control what the reaction is going to be, so the only thing you can do is to roll the dice.

>>6076026
>posts a better artists work
>people follow under the impression that you will post more of that quality
>>twitter success is just luck!!

>>6075232
What about full app for the phone? Is it good?

>>6054174
>glowniggers
>actually giving a shit about people
They want to demoralize and drive away from this website because it's essentially the only major place where content cannot be censored.

Maybe I should find a better job. Wagecucking like there's no tomorrow and drawing is exhausting. I don't really care about money but I need some to sustain myself. Does anyone know any simple jobs that I can apply for?

>>6055739
Fucking hell

>>6076115
uber

>>6076089
I never claimed it was mine, but desu yeah I think people are getting the impression it was mine because they're adding me to their "lists" for tutorials. I left a comment classifying I didn't make it but it was ignored.
I'm more concerned that the people following me all seem to be part of that self righteous lgbt part of twitter, and not anywhere near the kind of audience I want. I want people that aren't going to have an autistic sperg out because I said the n word when I was 16

>>6076140
Combat Infantry in Ukraine Army. Plenty of inspiration for good art.

>>6076389
Filter out all the people who will flip when you say nigger with this one easy trick.

I'm realizing art is a personal journey and you have to come up with your own routines and techniques eventually. There is no such thing as a rule in art, and no objective truths that can be easily understood such as the rule of thirds.

Sadly the people who are looking for artistic freedom and expression turn to modern art, while the more rigid process followers turn their attention to traditional art, the kind of art you need technique and knowledge to create it.
The rigid kind of people seem to thrive in a school environment, they are the ones who score good grades, so naturally they progress the most in a course based learning environment, which is all around us today and almost impossible to avoid. Since they are the academic type they usually become teachers themselves and create their own courses.

The problem is that we are being inundated by the rigid, lifeless, boring "artists" that have no creativity on their own and seem to have an answer to every problem (that someone else came up with).
They strip art from its surrounding charm (soul) and pick apart every little thing that composes a great art piece, thinking that they have figured it out then applying them to their own artwork, like if it was a math equation. But it doesn't work this way.
Listening to these type of people discourage real artists with all that school work and grind mindset. "Just draw" remains as the superior all encompassing advice because if you want to create actual art you have to use your own brain and figure things out aka creativity.

>>6076641
Sounds like these “rigid” people should just post their work.

>>6076672
They already do

>>6076672

>>6056806
I don't know how you draw but sounds to me like your eye for art has improved faster than your ability to make it is all. It's gonna suck for a bit but you should take advantage of this to look at your work objectively and identify any particular shortcomings you can easily fix.

>>6056840
Often you might think you're tracing something perfectly but there's usually gonna be something a little off or some slight line you might've missed that can change the feel of the final result. With that in mind as you're tracing you should try to figure out why the original artist placed their lines a certain way and follow their train of thought accordingly to replicate their final result.

>>6062831
10+ years ago I let my cousin's drawing talent deter me from pursuing drawing/art, even as a hobby. We were both teens. He was a bit better than I was, which was demoralizing, but I was never envious for some reason. Looking back, we could've just drawn together and just have fun with silly stuff. I don't know why neither of us pursued anything of it, even though we both were talented, though he was better. Now at 30, I'm picking it up again as a hobby. He, on the other hand, is depressed and without a job. What an idiot I was. I wish I was there for him to tell him how good he was, so we could both have at least pursued art for fun.

>>6071635
>https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/
>>6063226

thank god such is the true nature of the 4chan

>>6075437
You have to be a bit bold in this world and you have every right to assert yourself in that way. You have no idea how many obliviously incompetent people apply to positions. Just send recruiters/companies your stuff. The worst is they will ignore you or reject you and give you feedback (which is actually great), the best is they'll plan an interview and you go from there. It is not easy, I know, but self-confidence is a skill that needs to be cultivated. I gained some self-confidence through my work. Outside of work, I have no self-worth, but at least it's something.

>several big name animation studios and one big graphic design studio requests interviews with me for grad night
Sounds like you don't know your own worth. Catching those big companies' eyes is great for a recent grad. Do you know how many years people spend trying to get even a single interview? Don't let the tism get you, man. You can do it. I was born a poorfag in a troubled environment with psycho momma on welfare, daddy gone. While I was in college my past caught up to me and I was near burnout with anxiety and narcissistic family members dragging me down, but I kept at it. Now I am in talks with big companies. I'm still anxious and depressed, but at least there is some financial security. I've seen privileged people just graduate and get offers left and right, coasting through life while I was struggling with money and mental health issues. I see a lot in myself in you. I wasted so many years of my life and also money because I felt like I was never good enough.

I know I should just start making my passion project now and improve as I go but should I keep my comic to myself, improve my ability, then when I get to a certain level, redo the entire comic from scratch for the public? Or should I just publish it anyway no matter how bad it is and improve it as I go?

>>6077884
>Or should I just publish it anyway no matter how bad it is and improve it as I go?
If you like the 'art evolution' trope I guess.
But be careful if your project idea is REALLY good.

>>6077894
>But be careful if your project idea is REALLY good.

I believe it is, that's my biggest concern. Eh, I'll just work on it in private until I get the workflow down I guess.

>>6077884
Just start now. A lot of comics and manga have false starts where the creator starts over after a few issues that act as a "pilot episode" type of thing to gather feedback and interest and show to publishers.
One Piece for example was written as Romance Dawn for 50 pages, then he redid it as Romance Dawn v.2 for 45 pages and then redid it as One Piece properly.

It's simply the best practice you could possibly do for getting good at making the comic in the first place, just doing it.

>>6077902
Oh shit I missed the private vs publish part.
I think One piece had a huge advantage being so public so if someone had copied romance dawn it would be obvious.
Maybe just post your art from the comic on a twitter and then if you get enough people following you, you can start publishing it. You just need enough exposure to make someone think twice about stealing your ideas blatantly.

>>6077906
>Maybe just post your art from the comic on a twitter and then if you get enough people following you, you can start publishing it. You just need enough exposure to make someone think twice about stealing your ideas blatantly.
Okay I'll consider it at some point. I was going to start doing that once I'm almost happy with the final designs for the main characters.

bros our board…

how do you get out of your own head and just draw?
I'm in the mood where everything looks like shit to me

>>6078116
Just turn on your Japanese only music playlist and go into the flow state.

>>6075510
>>6076078
>>6076865

I was to thank you guys and again to everyone before for encouraging me to get my ass and gear and reach out. I've been going through my old contacts and narrowing down those I want to reach out to just look over my work.

I narrowed it down to an old professor who's specializes in background design and an industry professional who made me feel very comfortable when discussing my art with him.

My plan is by the end of next week to email them both with just what I have at the moment even the unfinished stuff. Idk I had it in my mind I needed to only send them stuff that was completely done and rendered but maybe that's retarded. I want to especially thank >>6076865 , I relate a lot to what you're saying about your life. Thank you all for talking to me, I don't get to converse with people much besides my siblings through facetime. This was nice. Will keep you guys posted on how it all goes.

is there some candid footage of people drawing that shows the true process? All videos are just a show put on by artists trying to make drawing look fun and easy. I want to see how much they use references, how much they trace, how much they ctrl Z. All these books say to do this or that, and when the writer is seen drawing, they draw things they've practiced thousands of times and can do without construction. I WANT THE TRUTH GODAMMIT

>>6078802
I've come to realize a lot of them use design doll. One of my favorite artist uses design doll, and hid it very well.

>>6078808
how did it feel? To me, tracing a model isn't drawing it, plain and simple. Just like pressing a button on a coffee maker and then showing people your coffee grinder is deception too.

>>6078802
i feel like people generally use as much reference as possible. Lots of illustrators in the past pretty much hired models to pose for them in exactly the same way they planned the final image to come out. Comic artists and animators, on the other hand, draw too many poses for them to reference and trace so they only use reference for research (aka model sheets, etc)

>>6078813
It's a sobering feel, that's for sure...

>>6078802
just don't watch shitty speed painting videos.
there's plenty of honest vids and especially livestreams out there. though a lot of the time the initial planning parts won't be included. like a gurney video won't show him driving around trying to pick out something interesting to draw, and a mangakas usually don't show themselves working on scripts and sketching out the name.

how many of you draw on /i/ occassionally?

>>6078817

I think nip animators have it easy because they're pretty much good to go just using the manga as reference and then filling in the blanks from there through the storyboard. That's why originals are more harder to work on. Comic artists abuse references; they have entire assets they can drag in and out of blender, sketchup, etc, and several pose apps. Why the heck would you not use the tools given to you?

>>6079092
Yeah I think as long as you can sit down and properly self critique your work and ask yourself "Is this the best work I could have done with the time I had to do it?" then you should use any tool possible to get the work done.
No one gives a fuck how you do it outside of a niche of art students and crabs.

There are pitfalls and bad habits that you can develop from relying on certain tools but you will figure it out the more you learn in general. Just never stop learning and never get complacent. Just because you are making money doesn't mean you cannot learn and make better work.

>Usually script my comic on the train or whenever I can't really draw
>Reach this point
>Completely fucking stuck
I don't get how I can't seem to start it the past few days, it's a fucking sex scene but I keep going back and starting over

>>6078802
I don't think you can handle the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdIwO4Vr1GU

>>6079124
What's the point of the sex scene? What are you trying to say about the characters?
How does it relate to the previous scenes?
Does the sex scene come logically as a consequence of previous scenes?
What reaction do you want to evoke in the reader? Arousal, intrigue, disgust, loneliness, recognition?
What is the power dynamic between the two characters? Does this sexual encounter reinforce that dynamic or change it?
Do either of the characters have a history or past experience that is relevant to sex? Can you reference it for continuity? Is it relevant to this particular encounter?
Is there danger of disease or pregnancy? Do the characters know about that danger? Do they care?
Is this sexual encounter casual, serious, fun, rough, consensual, vanilla, degenerate?

There's all kinds of stuff you could think about for a sex scene and make it serve the story instead of just being a random sex scene.

I just came up with a brilliant hack idea using blender and it's way faster than posing the monkey clay dolls in pose apps.

How do we make /ic/ faster?

>>6079285
Drawing is the hardest skill a human can learn, it ain't ever going to get faster.

>>6079285
Why should it? Drawing naturally takes time and there's nothing wrong with slower boards

You ever see an anon saying something you know is wrong based on either personal experience or seeing instructors demo and go to correct them but then think "why do I even care if this anon gets correct information?" and then spend your time doing something better.

>>6079292
It was faster a couple years ago though. It was fine then. Lately it’s gotten slower though.

>>6079285
make the board blue. That would attract people who actually draw. The loss of nude figure reference is a small price to pay

>>6079412
kys retard

I’m convinced all these anti-porn posts are part of some discord raid now

>>6079533
I’m convinced that pro-porn people are a discord raid

>>6079394
during corona some countries had lockdowns, now normalfags venture outside to touch grass in the nice weather

I'm so fucking sick of drawing like shit. My art fluctuates from great to chris chan. Every good thing I ever drew was a total accident. And you know what the cause is? Studying bullshit like loomis. Its filling my head with junk about realistic proportions when nobody wants to see that style of art.My art ends up looking like those creepypasta ultra realistic cartoon characters.

>>6079791
>And you know what the cause is? Studying bullshit like loomis. Its filling my head with junk about realistic proportions when nobody wants to see that style of art.My art ends up looking like those creepypasta ultra realistic cartoon characters.
Buddy, sounds like you need Vilppu

>>6079285
By posting more.

>>6079412
jealous schizos driving everyone off the board killed ic more than porn and anime ever did

>>6081300
translation
>I write fan fiction about myself that I was chased off the board by “schizos” but in truth I stick around to talk about how they chased me away to get other anons to believe I was one of these legendary artists as I train in the murky shadows of Gotham

Lmao I will kms and you are going to suffer afterwards.
I will make sure I come back from hell and bring you eternal suffering.
Dying as KHHV is a bonus to my rage.

>>6081305
take your meds nigger goddamn

i know this has been asked and said a million times but my only friend just moved and he doesnt have a pc so im genuinely alone now- where do i find friends who share this interest??
i would never join a discord from here because i want well adjusted people but at the same time i would not get along with the majority of artists in normal art discords. not even for my views or anything, i guess i just find their humor extremely unfunny?

>>6053985
>actually only doing fundies instead of doing fundies in between art you enjoy

You’re supposed to do exercises in between lessons

>>6081313
ease up on the racism

>>6082125
NIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS
KIKES ON A PIKE
CHINKS STINK
go ahead and try and ban me tranny jannies, you will never be a real woman and i’m more productive when i’m banned anyways

>>6082173
Don't you have crops to tend to?

>>6081313
ease up on taking the lords name in vain.

I used to be fucking funny. I'm looking back on all the years old notes I created for my comic book, and it's making me laugh. But I know if I tried to write something like that today it would suck. I'm boring now and I wish I knew how to get funny again. I don't want to make a boring serious comic.

>>6082603
Not exactly the same but I feel you, I drew a shitty lolrandum comic when I was like 15 and while it's cringey as fuck it was also mildly entertaining and I could tell that I had fun doing it. Now I'm just a hollow shell of a man with no ideas who hate my art.

>>6082665
Pretty much yeah. It probably boils down to the hope and innocence I still had back then. The positivity was great for humor and quality. Now I'm a filthy cynic accelerationist whose friends are all cynics too. Everyone is crushed by modern life. At least I saved all my notes in the first place so I can still use them. The soul in my art will probably never come back though. At least I still have a drive to make anything at all.

>>6082224
testing to see if i'm banned.
NIGGERSSSSSSSS

>>6082929

Did you feed the pigs yet?

This might sound stupid and autsitic but it's about zoom level when drawing. When I'm drawing on my cintiq I eventually noticed I'm only moving my hand in a limited area on the screen while my menus are on the edge of the screen. I take a standard sized printer paper to the screen and it's more than enough size for drawing. However when I go to my ipad I never really thought about what zoom level I should be drawing at and treated it like I'm drawing on desktop that is zooming in way too much.

But then I thought about it some more and compared where I place my hand on a regular piece of paper when drawing traditionally. My hand is on the paper (I'm right handed) and the pencil moves within an area of the center of the paper when generally getting down a sketch and not worrying about the details while never going at the bottom edge unless necessary. Unless I'm wearing a glove so I can slide my hand on the table to use the maximum area of the piece of paper, 99% of the time my hand is in the way of a portion of the paper.

Okay, so a 12.9 inch ipad is about the exact same size as printer paper with the screen being smaller in dimensions. Then in procreate the menus are cutting off a percentage of the paper dimensions. Now in real life I would have my hand on the screen which an area would be covering the paper but in procreate if I have my hand on the canvas while zoomed in that's not really replicating the 'real life' active area. So I thought about using the checkerboard negative space outsize of the canvas and realized this is actually your friend and not just some void beyond the canvas. So my palm fits into the void space and I zoom out just enough so the canvas is on the left side of the palm of my hand when sketching AND THEN when working on details I zoom in all the way to where the canvas fills the screen. Much like how my hand drawing traditionally moves away from the right edge of the paper onto the "active area" section of the paper for details.

>archived.moe doesn't let you see the full archived images
then whats the point

>>6083504
Text archive since I think every other archive site stopped a while back, including fireden which archived pulls from

>>6083537
pulls images from*

is anyone else scared of posting their work in this board? im kind of afraid the twitter mobs will find out and come after me and say something like "oh, he uses 4chan, he must be a hateful bigot nazi"
that is IF i even manage to achieve at least 1 (ONE) follower

>>6083722
if just don't call everybody niggers in the same post as your work it'll probably be fine.

>>6083722
>is anyone else scared of posting their work in this board?

I'm just "scared" of 1 person here. I want to be undeniably better than them in every way.

>>6083742
>I'm just "scared" of 1 person here. I want to be undeniably better than them in every way.
pretty cringe for an anonymous board

>>6083722
this crossed my mind, but then I realized im pretty unpopular irl and online and no one really cares about me

>>6085005
It’s not just any anonymouse person, they’re very daiji ni to me.

Ive been training nonstop for a 8 years. If I dont become of use to someone Im going to spiral/

>>6081869
Im well adjusted and im looking for more healthy friends.

>>6083722
Literally no one gives a shit about it. I know plenty of artists who openly post here and other boards with tens of thousands of followers and they've never gotten any flack for it.

Something I noticed only now and that makes a lot of sense is that probably any individual that is against any sort of art. From furry, to lolicon, to yaoi and fujo shit probably in not an artist or not doing long enough to be taken their opinion seriously. I mean, it makes a awful lot of sense don't you guys think? how many artists out there are pro any sort of censorship, if you draw a lot you probably have enough experience to see only as a drawing and don't have the sort of emotional reaction someone often has because it has some fucked up themes, like gore, sex or violence, you probably don't give a fuck and not only already drew anything like that because it sounded fun you probably just don't get why someone normal would care. Just think about it, do you really give a fuck outside the skill? I'm shocked at myself for not making the connection for this long.

If this was a serious board focused on actual art and not some forgotten board because this site is nothing but a rotten corpse hanging on the idea of what it was for the last decade they should be banned or at least give proof they can draw and are not shiposting. /ic/ has rules about trolling outside /b/ and that is pretty much what this is. Art in general can suffer from this problem if we are being real. is so obvious but when you connect the dots you can see how everything makes so much sense.

>>6085772
censorship is useful

>>6085797
Censorship has it's uses, not useful, if you are at least clever there are ways around it, but it has it's uses. That I won't pretend is true. Censoring art is completely different. censoring art for emotional responses based on what you like or dislike on complete irrational claims is really really dumb.

I get it why non-artists do that, they don't have the resistance or are numb enough to see art as a technical thing, they only see the emotional and the audience response that is completely ignorant about the process and motivations and start to make assumptions based on guesswork and nothing else. Is dumb, but I get it and because I get I know they shouldn't be the ones defining rules, much more about censorship and what we can and can't do. Normal people are stupid, I'm not saying this because I think I'm superior or know better, but is a constant trough history, all human history that normalfags are stupid, wrong, easily manipulated and need a lot, A LOT to be steered to the right path, from artists and actual intellectuals and is not me saying that, is history on itself, you can't deny that as much I can't deny that censorship has it's uses. But who use and for what purpose is what is at play here.

>>6085772
>>6085804
this is such a boring topic you wrote 2 paragraphs about i dont even intend to reply to it im just wondering if anyone else fids what this retard wrote hard to read to even understand what he is saying or am i just too sleepy

>>6085815
Yes, is on purpose, anon, I'm sorry. If I'm talking about certain topic and I want to keep certain people away I have prose and dialectic methods to make this sort of person confused. Don't feel attacked by it, is just not for your eyes, I try to make that true as much as I can.

>>6085772
>>6085804
for the sake of an anonymous board the less means to attract the real unsavory types out there the better.

I think I found a weird way to cope with how I have less time to draw now that I'm working:
It's like fasting to make my next meal tasier.

I still want to kill myself at work everyday, but at least now I have the mindset of looking forward to something.

>>6085772
nah extreme guro artists are all closet serial killers that the government should track but I'm fine with everything else

I just accidentally deleted all my art from the past 6 years. It's all gone. wtf

upgrading to Mac Monterey was such a huge mistake

>>6086349
how did it happen?

>>6086384
I had all my files synced with onedrive, but when I upgraded to Mac Monterey all of the files got frozen. Some kind of bug. Luckily I’m not a pro or anything do I didn’t lose anything financially important but still it sucks. I had so many completed comic storyboards I wanted to draw

>>6086349
i would genuinely want to kms for a few days if this happened to me, sorry that happened

>>6086406
damn, sorry for your loss. i hope you can recover some of the files somehow

>>6086406
rip.
The boomer strat of printing out everything shows it's wisdom once again.

>>6086455
>>6086461
>>6086464
Thanks guys. Oh well, here's to the future

>>6086406
>>6086478
Contact support, if it's uploaded to their servers they should be able to recover it.

Also, always remember keep local backups somewhere

I used to enjoy a lot of thing, have a ton of friends and hung out with them a lot.
Now, I don't want to. I don't enjoy it.

I just want to do art all day because it's the only thing I like, and enjoy intensely... I don't have anything in common with my old friends.
Going out just feels like a waste of time, whenever I'm out I'm just constantly stressed wanting to go back and draw.

I feel guilty about it, they're just well meaning and reaching out to me but my time these days is so limited and stretched-thin I can't waste it out of obligation.

>>6072438
Who's your waifu?
It's my waifu's birthday soon and I wish I could draw her more skillfully. But a chibi version of her with a birthday cake is still cute!

>>6053422
I just coomed
I had one of those beautiful cooms where it feels like your balls are 100% drained after, god I feel so fucking good the things I masturbated to where obviously precious anime pictures god life is wonderful

>>6088978
>When you'll never know what that is like ever again

>>6086971
Try finding other art friends anon. Either go to classes IRL or find an online group. Maybe try discord? There are a lot of autistic artists there.

>>6088980
what do you mean
someone cut your dick?

What causes mental illness like this...

I have no faith in my abilities and it's actively fucking me over every day that I don't conquer it. Hard to get out of the cycle of self hate that I've been doing my whole life.

I keep jumping from fundie to different fundie when studying.. I have an unfinished sketch, unfinished painting and now I'm suddenly getting the urge to read through this anatomy book even though I should finish the painting first

I am overwhelmingly lonely. Sacrificed friends for art skillz. Now im sad...

>>6089512
>Sacrificed friends for art skillz
me too

>>6089512
I sacrificed art skills for art friends. But now they all think I suck because I have no skills

>>6089512
>>6089541
>>6089546
if those friends were real you could pick up were you left off at any time. give your pal a call even they can't help you draw.

>>6089551
This is something that a man who has never had friends would say

>>6089556
I still have friends I've meant back in high school whose houses I still to this day go over to watch shitty anime with. Never throw away lifelong connections to be some reclused shut in, those are the people you need the most. Now pick up the phone and give them a call.

I'm beginning to think I need to constantly be warming up in spurts throughout the hours of drawing to retain the melted glue in my brain. Because for some reason if I don't copy a lot I quickly revert and doubt I have any talent.

trying to find art friends is tough. i already have a group of friends i do collabs frequently with, but most artists will usually just disappear after a few months, with no reason whatsoever. i'm tired of playing social footsies bros, why can't we just all draw and make something cool together?

>>6089563
>call friend from high school
>"hello? who's this?"
>i-it's anon from 10th grade math class, remember?
>"ohhh, right! long time no talk!"
>y-yeah good times right? hey did you wanna hang out some time-
>"oh, sorry anon i can't... my wife and i are supposed to go out with the kids for dinner tonight and i'm booked for the next three months with work and school events for my kids. you have a wife and kids so you understand right?"
>n-no... haha, still looking for the right one!
>"right... well it was nice catching up with you!"
>y-you too!

>>6053422
I was thinking about those art generators, and why I make art. Like I think initially I wanted to just make stuff, or follow curiosity, or whatever and that's still true but I think a huge part of it as well is that the process grows you as a person. Like, I'm more aware of myself and how I think and feel and approach things because drawing requires all that stuff. Idk if there's a word for that, like, the process being the point instead of the product.

I think making stuff grows us in a way, and I hope that never stops.

>ask fellow professional game artists what their dream job/work looks like because i'm trying to prime an opportunity for artists to have full creative freedom on a project
>give an example of how i'd like if i could design characters all day with full creative freedom and not having to worry about trends and painting splash illustrations
>mfw they just describe better slave conditions like asking for a clear art direction/vision to follow OR they don't fucking know and blank in awkward silence
holy fuck, this can't be normal right??? what the fuck inspired them to go into the art industry in the first place? did they seriously go into this industry wanting to just draw according to what some kike executive asks them to do? this is between both young and older professionals. they are literally soulless husks. these are the people who will be replaced with AI generated images because they are just low iq flesh slaves because AI would probably do their jobs infinitely better and way more efficiently if they don't have any love for art.

in some ways it makes some sense because they are retarded and can barely follow simple instructions as is. so maybe art was the easiest way they can maintain a livelihood without becoming homeless and they never had any genuine love for it in the first place. they don't make personal art for themselves either. i respect pornfags more than these """"people"""". i'll never look at them the same way again. i honestly hope they get fired because it's people like this that make games look more and more globohomo and hideous.

never, ever lose your love for your art anons.

>>6090878
i’d be very hesitant to answer this, because some offices can be really political, and talking about wanting to work somewhere totally different from where they work might be seen as badmouthing their workplace, seeing their workplace in a negative lighy, or expressing dissatisfaction and criticism towards their superiors who made the decisions for their company to work the way it does.
if you were a mean guy, or a gossipy one, it might somehow come back to bite them, so they’re hesitant. it’s an unspoken rule to never express negative stuff about your workplace. i know that’s a pretty borderline feel but there you go.

>>6085772
When I see a piece of art I'm always imagining the creation process, and what the person wanted to do. I can see the care they put into it so a picture of someone being anally vored might be nasty to look at but the love they put in is beautiful. They wanted to draw it and they worked hard on it, who am I to say their feelings are wrong? Normal people don't know how much time goes into drawing something, its not just the direct time spent on the piece, but also all the practice for years beforehand.

i can't tell when im creeping people out anymore

How do you start drawing for the day? I'm sitting here staring at my tablet and procrastinating with anything i can think of. When I actually draw I have fun and hours fly by.

>>6090973
except they've been open about this before, how they'd love to work on x project or something and they had openly complained about the current art direction multiple times.

the company itself is not political in that sense either and is quite transparent and easy-going in this sense. our art director is a really chill guy and is very aware it was due to the lack of a proper artist at the conception of the project and the short time needed to develop an update, that we were stuck in the style and tasks we have now. he was present in the meeting, but he's answered this question at least and thought it was a fun question too. the others though? nope.

makes me super buttmad that they bother to complain about the current art direction when they have zero vision in the first place.

>>6090878
Just watch a documentary on the life story of history's great artists like picaso or monet. See what paths they walked and choices they made regardless of being utterly poor and binging on rejection. Your colleagues aren't artists, they're inferior souless hardware that never step outside their comfort zone and AI should replace.

I had a dream that I met up with my twitter art mutuals in a virtual reality game with minecraftish/robloxish graphics and were in a gang and hand to go through a maze dungeon. The leader of the gang was midori and he kept saying the gangs name over and over while fist bumping the air. Pretty funny but random I guess.

>>6091031
draw something funny