/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

wow a disproportional charcoal skull I clapped

>>5246146
t. ngmi

>>5246146
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>>5246143
Viking blood.
Move to Scandinavia for max gains.

they learn anatomy, not anime crap

>>5246143
Russian jeans

>>5246143
russians are very good at a lot of things because life is very hard for them. russian parents are tough as fuck on their kids, they're poor, the weather is brutal. they grow up in a pressure chamber. there is no room for bullshit. most of the time, russians do not smile, they despair. and in between suffering, they get a few hours a day to focus their mind on a skill to cultivate.

I got into art through car design. I would just like pictures i found on random car design blogs and forums. eventually i noticed the pattern between the designers. miroslav dimitrov, maxim shershniev, roman egorov, and it goes on and on. theyre all russian and they all went to MAMI design university.

Adjacency to Poland

real answer is that most russian emperors were massive euroboos and patronized art, putting lots of money and effort into developing academies and museums and even 70 years rule of 70 IQ commies couldn't successfully undermine the tradition they created

the answer is historical, the US state funded abstract art for ideological reasons as a way to contain and compete with communism. So while the russians were learning from and building off of hundreds of years of previous art theory the "free west" started from zero and started dripping paint on canvas.

>>5246316

This. As such we currently have no good art education left in the west, but russians do. Google "the art of gold" documentary on youtube

>>5246143
Post 1 good russian artist

>>5246143
Talking out my ass here but from passing observations they seem to largely be interested in building on the foundations of established academic art so they produce really technically impressive stuff. A lot of the western art world seems focused on moving forward into new territory that subverts old art movements and fits with the changing applications of art as a trade whereas ruskies seem content to build off of the mold of the old masters.

>>5246313
ex commie country here

we have universities with double the life spam of communism, getting to study with a 70 yo teacher means you are being thought the way of drawing from 50 years ago. And if that teacher studied under another 70yo, then you have 100 years of experience to drain from. Respect your elders bro.

Ilya Kabakov is a Russian artist that is not only very technically skilled but is also pushing artistic boundaries with the installations he creates with the help of Emilia Kabakov. He's able to tap into the soviet realism technique while simultaneously going farther conceptually than most western artists

>>5246143
Easy peasy - legacy of Soviet focus on academic art and realism as part of the wider art program of socialist realism, which was in many ways a continuation of previous academic artistic realism (bit of an interesting element to the argument of Stalin being a reactionary figure, but that’s neither here nor there) - there’s a similar focus in art schools in Cuba and the DPRK. I’ve a copy of a Cuban comic book myself, style’s very similar to Silver Age comics, lots of focus on realism.

Close proximity to asian genes.

>>5246143
There's nothing else to do there but drink and draw

Unbroken artistic tradition. Even the horrors of the revolution could not break it. And after that the artchads went on to create graphic design from scratch.
Arts and crafts are a staple of russian culture. Being really good at making something is respected in every social circle and there's a bunch of tales about craftsmen. Drawing was studied at military academies.
Russian artistic culture is more inbetween the Japanese autism about craft and european frivolities of artistic expression.
Also important that Russian were big Frenchaboos when France mattered, so the imported as much culture as they could, to the point where balet and theater are not some highclass entertainment, but something everyone can enjoy.

Even then, at the end of the 19th century Serov was lamenting the fact that the student don't care about craft and just want flashy results fast. The more things change the more they stay the same.

>>5246143
Vodka

>>5246325
>the art of gold
>>5246288
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpxrY0O40Ic

will watch

as a russian kid, my talent for drawing was always applauded, but my parents always held my nose to the grindstone and my feet to the furnace with "thats amazing! but what about here, x y and z ??" what are you going to do next? how is this going to pay the bills ?

seeing the shithole Tula my dad grew up in really put my americanized ass in perspective.

You guys think /ic/ is tough? try having /ic/ for parents. no bullshit, no love, just ok super junior WHATS THE BIG DEAL

i dream of having hippie dippie liberal art parents who just love me unconditionally every night : ' (

at the same time i am grateful for my parents pushing me as hard as they did, i got my bachelors degree in painting and im not dead from drugs through sheer discipline.

>>5246143
they have good art schools
unlike everywhere else

>>5246647
It was also a big part of the underground during the communist rule. Same for Poland and other countries in the USSR. I had a teacher in college who was an artist in Poland, who did legit work for the State doing play posters and such, but at night was part of the political underground and did protest banners and posters. He said the art community was all involved.

>>5246682
That sounds like an interesting story, tell him to write a book.

>>5246670
im american but my parents weren't much better bro, believe me. on the one hand, my mom had zero love in her. i honestly think she is undiagnosed autistic. i have this one memory where i made a drawing, i dont even remember what it was. i imagined i would show it to her and she say it was wonderful and put it on the fridge. instead she said THAT's what you were drawing? Like it was so bad or so retarded that she couldn't believe how long I spent on it. She said it as though I just ripped off a cat's face and stapled it to the paper. I was so embarrassed. Everything growing up. Never once did my mom give me critiqued that included a suggestion to improve it was always just a declarative statement that my art was shit and that I was weird.

And my dad just said everything was great. But everyone knew he was a liar. He lied about everything for no reason. Even if I just drew a line on the paper he would say it was great. And then he would ask me to borrow 20 bucks.

I fucking wish ic was my parents. At least ic told me to check out loomis.

>>5246143
That's Marshall Vandruff

>>5246143
Its called having Asian Jeans

>>5246813

Damn dude I'm sorry to hear your dad was a deadbeat. My grandpa (and honestly myself in the past...how I'm ever going to shape up to be a father idk) was the same way.

I thank god my dad had a shitty dad and didn't do the same to me. My dad's always been honest with me, and kind, because he's smart. My mom's the same way.

At the same time, I know what it's like having somewhat autistic parents, both of them scowl at me at me anytime i do something too "liberal" in their eyes. They grew up in communist russia so theyre SUPER conservative even by american standards.

>I fucking wish ic was my parents. At least ic told me to check out loomis.

me too desu. Growing up they were always working, and i flocked to the older kids in my after school program for advice. I guess it's true what the psychology textbooks say, "children aren't beholden to one set of parents" based on children that grew up in Kibbutz's they say children can identify with having more than set of parents and/or look to other sources when the they're biological parents fail to meet certain parental ideals in their mind.

I think that's why I keep coming back to this place. Senpai (x > 28) can be a bit of a bully, but he/they're just looking out for my autistic schizo ass and trying to get me to see the world for what it really is, an unforgiving place where if you don't outperform everyone else, you don't eat.

>>5246670
post your work, im interested in seeing if i can guess you being a slav just by the style

>>5246849
ivan loginov*

>>5246143
They are very spiritually rich, im certain that has something to do with it.

high IQ and strong imagination. thats why they also win all the math olympiads and solved the millennium problem

>>5246364
Shishkin, repin, serokov, the Russian impressionists

>>5246364
repin

>>5246143
they didn't allow their schools to become extended kindergarten for menopausic women and resentful kikes

>>5246288
>russians do not smile, they despair. and in between suffering, they get a few hours a day to focus their mind on a skill to cultivate.
Fuck, why did you have to hit that nail on the head so hard?

>>5249486
because it sounds dramatic and youre kind of dumb

>>5246946
Boxman is just a schizophrenic larper. Ignore him. Pic related is his work

>>5246143
Because you suck at it anon. Go draw skulls and come back here when you can pull off this kinda shit.

>>5246143
They spend their time drawing instead of crying about others.
SAGE.

People in western countries reject discipline, patience, and any other virtue for the betterment of themselves.
They're always busy consooming social media outrage disney globohomo to become good artists.

>>5246143
That's clearly drawn by a black man

>>5246143
Because they focus on fundamentals. Same with anywhere else in asia or europe that shits out good artists.

>>5246185
>russia
>viking blood
are americans seriously this retarded? i threw up a little in my mouth reading this (i'm russian)

>>5249890
Moнгoлoидный финнo-yгp пpигopeл.

>>5246316
>>5246325
only reliable answers in the thread
/thread

I studied with Russian teachers who graduated from St. Petersburg. They had art classes in high school, where they learned the basics of drawing and from there they went to an art school that prepared them to get into St. Petersburg or another academy. They get good at drawing and painting portraits and the human figure by the time they are around 16ish. To get accepted at the Repin academy, you have to come up with a composition with a given topic, paint a portrait, draw a portrait, paint the figure and draw the figure. I studied 3 years with those teachers, until I asked them to be straight forward with me and give me a reality check on how good people are over there in Russia at the Repin academy. They told me (in my 30ies) that I am finally good enough to be possibly get accepted into Repin along with super young kids under 20. I follow some Russian artists who are barely 20. Its quite depressing to say the least, they are insanely good at painting and they are improving at a rate that is almost impossible to catch up to on your own.

They learn a constructive approach instead of wasting their time with sight sized. They know their anatomy and they stress invention and to go beyond the academic style.

In short: They just have really good school or the west just has really terrible schools to get good at art.

>>5249890
Vikings founded Kiev, did they not?

>>5249565
lmaoooooo

is the "russian academic drawing approach" on NMA worth it?

>>5250630
>is the "russian academic drawing approach" on NMA worth it?
not for you specifically because even if you buy it, you definitely are not going to use it

>>5250653
i've finished every video course i've actually downloaded, including vilppu's and steve hustons beginner figure drawing courses, which i actually plan to revisit as i find somethning new to learn the more skilled i get, im merely asking because the russian method course seems like a huge commitment