/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLqWX7onVmU

How do you draw hands and fingers? Whenever I try to draw some the fingers always end up with weird spacing between them and look really fat.

First time using a drawing tablet

>>5233691
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBMQ-H-qUVk&ab_channel=MarcoBucci
and
https://files.catbox.moe/si7nri.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/csxs9h.webm
https://gumroad.com/krenzcushart#cRkSh
You should at least know basic perspective

>reading keys to drawing
>Project 1 bell pepper
>dont have one

>>5233930
NGMI

Spent two and a half hours polishing this turd. Supposed to be the Mule

>>5233935
or trying, rather

I drew my OC wearing the bondage coom outfit but the thread has since been deleted. Would love some critiques on this.

if anatomy is so important to get good, and style is derived from bending the rules, then wouldn't it logically follow that every big artist can draw like this?

>>5233952
one would like to assume, however nowadays with how different artistic schooling and experience is from person to person, and how many larger artists have made a name off of simple or cartoony art, to assume as such would be stupid

>>5233952
Literally anyone can draw from observation at that level in one month tops.

>>5233934
funniest post i've seen on IC in a while

>>5233960
so then anatomy is a waste of time?

>>5233971
no, not at all, anatomy and drawing from life are great skills. all im saying is that with the current artistic landscape its more than possible that many big artists simply haven't learned that type of drawing

>>5233649
>>5233943
Friend, you have been crabbed, you are not /beg/.
/beg/ is there to help really early on folks get through the basics and wrap their head around fundamentals, things like thinking in 3d shapes and light. Please don't let people knock you down like that, post these either in the drawthreads, alt, or asg.
Your characters are very cute. I am a big fan of the perky tits, they are very appealing and nice to look at, the quality of your lines and colors makes rhem shine even more.
The only things negative to note is using above the hair for the eyes on the witch on one eye and below the hair for another eye, and that you can use the same educated lines you learned to use on the face on the eest kf the body and aspects of the drawing to make the kost out of it. I also think the curtain should interact with chara 2's hands and legs, and that the labia in chara2 should be defined by shades and broken line, rather than by hard lines.

>>5233952
>>5233971
Anatomy tethers together any humanoid subject you're trying to put together. Even a very stylized -cartoonish even- set of characters corresponds to anatomy that fits the style. Knowing how the subject will move and how each limb or precise muscles move facilitates the process of drawing in a style.

Consider adapting what you learn in anatomy to whatever style you're trying to pursue and this will make more sense. If I'm going to be drawing a character moving in different ways from panel to panel, I'm going to want to know beforehand how each limb bends and how the head twists. It would save a lot of time to know how the body changes with each pose. Also see Dynamic Posing that imply movement even if you're doing just one image of a subject.

Bueno.. que puedo decir?, solamente me gusto el dibujo

>>5233935
Same advice as the anon in the last thread, try tackling easier subjects.
Don't torture yourself with human heads yet.

>>5234121
Thank you. I feel like I also might have sabotaged myself by not using references because I wanted to get a raw interpretation of what I read about the character in the book, but I'm clearly not at that level yet.

>>5233930
found a jpeg one instead

>>5233987
that's /beg/ you retard. just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't.

Help

What the hell is crabbing?

>>5234215
crab in bucket

>>5234215
crabs shit on eveyone else's work first and post their owns stuff never. Much like >>5234182, he'll never actually prove that he's far above the skill level of this thread, but will post as if his is.

no way this form intersections on drawabox bullshit makes any sense to anyone

Does everyone struggle with color and value much more than value alone? Started this off in color but realized it looked like ass and had to change over.

>>5234182
Joke of a man, this is why you will be trapped here forever. Unlike OP who is on the road to making it.

Pls feedback and some advice. thanks.

>>5234290
looks good to me well done Anon

Reposting from the last thread, any crits?

Other than studying fundies, what could you recommend to do for making my art seem more stylistically appealing and detailed? IDK way but it still feels somewhat simplistic in general

>>5234372
The serratus muscles extend too far down the torso. There are 8 distinct "packs" of the abdomen and I only see 6. The last two will just barely be visible and extend towards the pubic bone. Your rendering of the abs makes them look far too prominent; I would lower the value range you're using. The shape made by the floating ribs will look different than what you've indicated. One side has a different shaped trapezius muscle than the other.

>>5234382
thanks bro

i know im still pretty shit at drawing but what about character design?

>>5233987
I'm still far too inconsistent to graduate from /beg/ but I appreciate that you took the time to write all of this, I mean it.
>>5234306
>Unlike OP who is on the road to making it
Feelsgoodman, we can make it together
>>5234360
I'd say don't completely commit yourself to just grinding isolated bodyparts until you get it right, you'll learn alot more (and faster) from troubleshooting as you work to finishing complete figures while doing studies on the side.
>>5234376
Start studying and mimicking the styles you like the most, the sooner the better. Cute girl btw

>>5234213
- You didn't draw the midriff area and it looks like her ribcage connects directly to her pelvis area
- Draw bigger as well, drawing in small scale is a bad habit
- Don't symbol draw the hands, you can construct them from boxes

I'll be waiting the better version of your drawing

>>5234280
nevermind i get it now :)

>>5234367
Thank you!

>>5234401
it's shit as well

>>5234412
fuck

>>5234407
>drawing in small scale is a bad habit
not him but i do that for sketches and shit since its easier on my wrists but resize before doing the lineart/coloring/etc. is that bad?

>>5234401
pretty bad
stop playing jet set radio and study

>>5234422
When you draw in small scale things tend to be closer together and let your own imagination fill in the gaps instead of using your creative muscle to add in details
The complete opposite happens as well when an artist draws in too big of a scale: the drawing feels empty and the little details feel like islands in the middle of the pacific

I have found that drawing in a 1000x1000 pixel canvas with pen size ranging from 7 to 14 is a good starting point for getting the hang of proper scale

>>5234406
consistency isn't a beg thing. /beg/ is literally pre wrapping your head around the fact that drawing is 3d. You will get a lot better feedback and progress a lot faster around artists your skill and better like in the drawthreads, alt, or asg

>>5234360
I'd say do more planning before you go into details, plan out the parts of the head and face and the whole picture. Lear the measurements of the thing you draw so you can place things more confidently. As we know a thing is often more than is more than the sum of its parts.

>>5234290
Yeah, I think it's mostly how different colors have different values and how saturation effects that for me right now.

Trying out some things can anyone point out some obvious mistakes

>>5234559
The lower body is too long. The head is too small. Generally, the feet combined with the length of the tibia will be equal to the femur up to the trochanter. Calves are too large. Nice perspective on the feet.

>>5234047
blog?

>>5234479
>please leave! you are triggering my insecurities!

Some figure study idk

i think i have a problem with wanting to get drawings over with and going too fast, like i got ADHD or something
any advice?

Basically what I do is start from a point that seems easy enough and then simply copy the lines in relation to one another (size, angle, curvature, etc.). In this example I started from the knee and went to the foot first.
I haven't tried making the basic shapes yet and doing the details afterwards. I'm sort of hesitant to try this for some reason. But I will.

In this picture, I fucked up and now there's no space for hear face and the top of her head. Is there any way to remedy this without starting over?
Is this simply caused because I haven't drawn the basic shapes/ proportions before starting?

I'll post reference image next

>>5234600
Try if you can find a different workflow than what you usually do.

>>5234605
reference.
btw I know my drawing is not cleaned up I took the picture in the middle of the process because I realized the head won't fit

>>5234600
That's not ADHD, that's your brain conditioned to constant distractions.
Turn off the internet and get in the habit of drawing random crap for hours on end, start slowly but really try to fight off against the urge of procrastinating.

>>5234605
I would have started by drawing a triangle that she stays inside to keep the proportions right.

>>5234605
Start over and begin by first drawing a loose gesture and measuring proportions, you are starting with contours which will always fuck that up.

>>5234605
You cannot draw like this

>>5234613
>>5234614
>>5234618
alright I'll try to make the basic shapes before detailing thanks a lot

>>5234605
>stubbornly drawing incorrectly
>fucks up
wow what a surprise

there is no point to continue your current drawing it will look like shit no matter what and you won't learn anything

>>5234622

>>5234401
I like it enough to try to draw her myself. not sure why, some characters just have that quality.

>>5234605
Just leave out the head. The plush toy has a convenient backup face just for this eventuality.

>>5234635
your the second person to make fanart of my stupid funk girl, feels deadly seeing this shit, thanks anon.

>>5234644
that was a girl? kek i now that i look closely it looks like she has two pairs of tits

>>5233694
Thats honestly pretty fucking cool. His back arms and also his left arm look too flat. Fix them and it should be fuego brother

>>5234559

>>5234566
thanks for the legs tip bro

>>5234595
i like it anon

>>5234683
wtf this is much better

>>5234688
ty I redrew it like 10 times

>>5234213
>>5234360
>>5234401
>>5234605
reposting since it's relevant for these anons
try drawing easier subjects, with the same effort you're putting into figures/characters

>>5234683
>>5234689

Did you just sign your sketch? Cute

>>5234685
Thanks.

>>5234702
no I was testing the brush

>>5233943
Not beg, post it in salt if you want help with the coom aspect or asg if you want general advice.

Nice big angry cock

>>5234800
rad cock

>>5234698
not them, but is the point of this just motivation? because what if I feel motivated not by the quality of the drawing, but by the subject?

>>5234698
seems like good advice but unless it's a cute anime girl, I don't really wanna draw it

>>5234811
You will learn far more about drawing with a single photorealistic still life than 1000 anime heads.

>>5234825
Hahahahahaha
Peak crabbing.

>>5234825
How come? Also that’s retarded, you’ll learn more if you draw the underlying muscles and then the skull itself while also simplifying everything into planes.

Wuchu guys think?

>>5234825
xerox go brr

>>5234698
im sorry to ask
what is the video attached to this again

>>5234829
Observation, proportion, perspective, mapping and modelling, color, shading, depth, line weights, you need to nail these things down if you want to draw good anime heads. You will learn much, much more slowly and will develop a thousand bad habits if you only stick to one thing especially as a beginner.

>it's another /beg/ anime brain rot tries to skip steps episode
See you in two years in /vent/ whining about still being garbage.

first impressions ty

How do I indicate the nose all the way up to her eyes without making her look like a goddamn cat girl?

>>5234831
This is ironic because without a clear understanding of fundamentals you will actually become a comfort zone xerox machine, it's inevitable.
It's essential to develop a good sense of the whole drawing process if you want to be loose and flexible.

>>5234836
Pyw
>inb4 poorly rendered body with no gesture and understanding of forms or planes of the human body

>>5234809
Partly for motivation, also to gradually ramp up the difficulty. Unless you got basically zero ego, it's difficult to be motivated by months of shit results.

>>5234811
If that's the only thing you wanna draw (and aren't disappointed with your current progress) then more power to you, anon.

>>5234834
https://youtu.be/22XYoenU-0c?t=638

>>5234846
I'm not sure what you mean, I'm not telling him to not learn gesture and form. It's the opposite in fact, I'm telling him to learn the fundamentals you mentioned too but without skipping other essential steps.
You can argue I'm being too judgmental but if he's refusing to draw anything but anime girls then it's clear that he's your usual weeb that will absolutely never develop his skills and will very quickly stagnate like 100% of begs that can only think in paths of least resistance.

>>5234851
He's crabbing /beg/s bro

>>5233943
beg here, probably embarrassing myself again, here is my attempt of redline. the blue lines are a tangent thing, the shape of her hair make it looks like her waist is really thin at first sight. probably intentional but just in case.

>>5234841
remove some detail

>>5234880
looks worse than catgirl imo

>>5234698
Good subjects but that locomotive is a billion times harder to draw than 2 phones, 1 generic hot guy head or a front facing elephant.

Don't listen to this retard >>5234825, I tried grinding still lives and it's the most boring and soulless shit imaginable and won't get you any closer to drawing anime booba. Pic related was my last attempt which I didn't finish because if was an absolute slog.

>>5234825
you learn to draw anime by drawing anime, by drawing still life you will only learn to draw fucking still life how can you be this much of retarded

>>5234913
Still life is great for practicing and learning specific things mostly regarding generic form and rendering, you are not supposed to "grind" it.

>>5234918
Start thinking about art in terms of generalized skills and you will go much farther than with that mental midgetry.

Can you guys explain to me how fuckin hair works? I wanna do a kinda bowl cut look but can't figure out how fair from the head the hair goes and how it's supposed to fall.

>>5234886
Left is infinitely superior even though you made the bridge too straight.

>>5234830
Eye is too big and that hat(?) looks stupid

>>5234927
Looks like a shitty cartoon in left

>>5234930
Both of them are shitty cartoons but one actually looks like a nose instead of whatever the fuck you are trying to do in the right with the pig nose and bizarre lines, look at a very tiny thumbnail if you are having trouble feeling the values.

Please

>>5234946
your chicken scratch hurts my eyes anon
stop it

Its weird drawing more than just a female.

My first time ever drawing a figure entirely from imagination. One week into owning a tablet.

How often do you redraw the same thing to track progress?

I’ve been focusing mainly on facial expressions how is it so far

>>5235055
Once A year is enough. You will be able to tell you are improving or not by how you generally draw things. Also you should not being drawing without reference right now. You clearly do not understand the human body enough. Learn proportions before you break them with coom, and don't polish nightmare fuel. Your drawing makes me laugh.

Anything to say before I start coloring?

>>5235055
Oh shit man,looks like shit, practice some loomis, drawing coom is hard, youll need some basics before even dipping your little toe into coom.
There's Zero construction, it has no rib cage, no collarbones, no shoulder bones. nigga take your time, take some refferences, practice, got to /gif/ and get references from the Creep thread
>>5234926
First of all make an imaginary layer over the head look ay yourself on the mirror, hair is not at the same level as the head, it has volume use some anime girls with bowl cut as refference, even better use real people. Good luck

>>5234913
nice shading though

1-How do I make it so the twinks ponytal doesn't merge with his body (make it more distinguishable)

2. Is the shadowing on the buff dude any good? Seems iffy to me. If it's not good, what is the best to cast a good shadow and cross-hatching?

3- Related to 1, how can I give depth using only one brush?

No reference were taking, just from memory, that's why it's not just like the og characters.

Critique, please? Also how the fuck do I draw the bottom-up hands on hips... I am lost.

>>5235223
gondola legs

>>5235236

>>5235236
>>5235246
Holy shid :DDDDDDDD

>>5235276
cute

>>5234698
This is incredibly useful, half the time as a complete /beg/ i would go to try and draw something from reference but get disappointed because I tried something too hard

>>5234595
This is nice, post the ref you used if you used one

Study. No idea how to hatch properly

>>5235246
o fug : - DDD

>>5235324
what are you studying

>>5235324
The features look flat, but you got the expression down pretty close.

>>5235328
Values I guess

>>5235331
Thanks, maybe doing softer transitions would help? I started with a darker background than that one so that may have messed things up a bit too

Is Loomis still relevant if I’m wanting to not draw portraits/realism? I’m a weeb

>>5235348
you need to understand what he teachs, nothing more, sadly 99.99999999999999% of begs never get it right

>>5235348
Its not going to hurt you to do. Understanding how a real human face is drawn will help you understand how different animes break the rules of human facial proportion in different ways.

>>5235348
Learn to draw, weebs do not get special treatment.

>>5235324
The hatch marks should sort of be like contour marks.

>>5234479
>consistency isn't a beg thing. /beg/ is literally pre wrapping your head around the fact that drawing is 3d.
/beg/ is far broader than being able to draw in 3D, or else half of /beg/ wouldn't be told to be here
>You will get a lot better feedback and progress a lot faster around artists your skill and better like in the drawthreads, alt, or asg
I agree, but my work just isn't there yet, perhaps in a few months of studies I can leave but for now I'm just going to take things on piece at a time.
>>5234874
thanks for the feedback.

>>5235348
learn to draw retard. good anime reduces the complexity of real life people to eye-catching, essential, aesthetic properties. when you can draw a very nice eye and understand how to construct it, you can learn what details are critical and what details can be emphasized, removed, inserted, adjusted. these adjustments make an anime style.

HOWEVER.

You can also just draw anime. But if you take drawing seriously, you will kick yourself for the rest of your life for not learning to draw in an orthodox way. You WILL eventually have to learn to construct a head, to draw the figure, to observe and create accurate proportions.

>>5235092
well, it is expressive

>post sketch
>nobody says shit
>post the thing finished
>now they say what I could have fixed
Why are you like this?

You got it all wrong.
You gotta put as much effort as you can into drawing stuff you know you don't understand in order to maximize gains.
Obviously don't spend 2 days rendering a flat faced anime girl with broken legs but try to outdo your old drawing everytime.
Thats why I don't like doodles or "its just a sketch".
Your growth is proportional to how hard you go while you draw.
If you draw 100 hands in a session (with reference), you are going to get better.

>>5235387
and it applies to cartoons as well??

>>5235436
because your sketchs look like this and theres not much to critique since everying is too messy to tell if it is intentional or not

>>5235454
this is mine
>>5235195
this was the sketch threads ago

>>5235453
ask butch hartman

>>5235463
proved his point
also draw the hands you lazy coomer faggot

>>5235468
lol, I commented on the original post that I forgot to draw hands for the billionth time.
I kinda remembered
also what the fuck are you talking about it's not that messy

>>5235195
>>5235463

>>5235478
ow zee edge
later crab gonna finish my drawing (and learn how to draw hands once again)

What to use after watercolor to get nice details? Office Pen obviously doesn’t work

>>5235487

>>5233694
I suggest focusing on getting used to the tablet, precision is the most fundamental skill imo.

>>5234213
well, I tried. not sure if it is any better tho.

>Beginner Thread
>Expect absolute beginners like myself who can hardly draw
>Thread is just filled with people who CAN already draw nicely
Wow so motivating my dudes I def want to post my stuff here and get ridiculed for how shit it looks compared to everyone else

>>5235567
Work on fixing your ego problem if you are here for small fish praise rather than critique.

>>5235486
Are you not understanding the critique? The way youve drawn her elbow overlapping shows that her upper arm is pointing towards (through) her head.

What books do I have to read to learn how to color like this? https://twitter.com/dingkuang1/media

>>5235215
feedback would be greatly appreciated.

>>5235600
You could just study from that guy

>>5235276
Anon, do you have a blog or a twitter or something?

Help can't draw hands and it looks overall shitty.

I think the pose is slightly off, and I really need to start learning how to draw backgrounds.

>>5235653
Looks traced

>>5235656
I didn't trace it.

>>5235661
Nice, the anatomy is pretty good

>>5235666
Thanks satan. Appreciate it

>>5235487
By office pen you mean Ballpoint?

Fountain Pen I'd think would be good, but you need to have an ink that goes well with the colors either way.

>>5235654
Not even slightly /beg/, get out of here

>>5235654
long legs are long

does this look ok or am I going to get roasted again >>5235715

does this look ok or am I going to get roasted again >>5235725

>>5235695
based permabeg

use the ball

what is wrong and where i can better?

>>5235767
do you really see nothing wrong with that drawing?

>>5235772
No?

>>5235786
Look at this picture. This is the level of quality you must strive for. Now look at your drawing.

>>5234569
i like these anon. good job on the flow of the subjects. just needs more polishing and anatomy studies

>>5235055
mother of god anon. start over

>>5235436
>critique a sketch
>anon "of course I gonna fix that lol, anything else?"
>critique again
>anon "that too, I will fix that too, you guys so dumb lol"

>>5235333
then lemme say you have to push your values on the turban and the shadows on the neck area

>>5235794
can you give me feedback please >>5235735

>>5235793
>that beg garbage

>>5235803
>haruhisky
>beg
gtfo anon

>>5235802
aside from me hating the subject matter, she looks very stiff. the tits are also terrible anatomically, and so are the hands. i don't like the face, but that's just me being an anime hater i guess

>>5235806
>anon is defending GIGAbeg art

cute!

>>5235653
did you try using references

Is there a good way to do mindful practice? I'm trying to learn anatomy but I won't move on until I can draw a skull well. Would it be better to just touch on everything and work on improving once I've got a sort of baseline for the entire human form? Drawing crappy skulls every day is kinda soul sucking honestly

Picrel isn't mine I just like gravity rush

>>5235806
Are you baiting or do you actually not just see all the flaws in that

>>5235808
>she looks very stiff
fug I always get this criticism what would you have done to fix that?

>the tits are also terrible anatomically
I placed them slightly too high? Or is it because you think they're too big?

>and so are the hands
Did I make them too small?

>>5235567
Isn't it a good thing if people who can draw are here to critique?

>>5235819
I am a proponent of
>draw what you want to draw
>evaluate why it is shit
>try to improve on it
>repeat
might not be as efficient, but it is more intuitive imo

>>5235822
>Are you baiting or do you actually not just see all the flaws in that
redline or you're trolling

>>5235767
well anon, i mean... since you didnt resize the picture im gonna critique from top to bottom. the ear is placed wrong and his jaw line is fucked. her neck is too far to the right. her pinky and all her finger nails are fucked. her palm is flat. her forearm is curved. her left upper arm is too short so her elbow is too high. her tit placement is ...idk how to even describe it, let's say they were placed incorrectly, her waist is too small. her hps make no sense. her right arm is long and skinny and her elbow is bending the wrong way. also the wrjinkles on her sleeve look like shit. the palm on her other hand looks flat again and her middle finger is too skinny.

Let's leave it at that. Why don't you start with those.

>>5235600
Take a photo and brighten in Snapseed on iOS. Then take samples using app like pocket palette

>>5235654
it's very cute anon but your perspective is all over the place

Pick a vanishing point and make them all point to it, or at lest make them all parallel. currently you have her body twisted and asymmetrical all over the place

>>5235849
this is brilliant

>>5235830
I'll try that, ty anon

I am the /beg/ of /beg/, I just got gifted an Apple Pencil and decided to try drawing. I watched a few vids so far but I’d like some thoughts on what I should do next. Idk if I’m even doing this gesture shit right or what I should study to improve because I’ve drawn a million boxes but everything still looks like shit

>>5235860
Isn't that a bit over the top to do this? It's not an architecture drawing.

>>5235886
>Apple

>>5235735
cute spider!

>>5235909
Based satanachia poster

Well, I will be honest. My drawing sucks, they always feel "flat", with no volume at all.
Draw a box would be a good choice to train this? Any tips to take something to study?
Maybe I will start to make commissions, to force me train and get good.

>>5235923
Learn perspective and line weights, drawabox should be good for this.

>Maybe I will start to make commissions, to force me train and get good.
No, it will stagnate you since you'll be mechanically forced to stay in a comfort zone with no experimentation.

>>5235900
Anon, you asked for help. You posted your faggy waifu doodle in a thread for critique. I gave you an objective critique. You even aid you thought the pose was a bit off. I'm showing you why it's off. If all these parts are going toward different vanishing points, then that means her feet, arms and legs are different lengths from each other. If you came here so someone would pat you on the head and tell you what a great job you did, you came to the wrong place.

>>5235886
well you’re already doing better than most here
ready sticky

>>5235934
i'm not the one who asked for help anon

>>5235654
can't help but feel like she's gonna fall on her ass, background is questionable.
>>5235860
vandruff 1992
perspective for the artist
perspective made easy
DAB
Loomis
for you not the OP

I miss my nigga like you wouldn't believe

>>5235920
thanks for the redline I really appreciate it!

>>5235933
Aye, sir.

>>5235860
>>5235934
>that fucking redline
Peak retard out here once again proving that perspective is the great filter that separates the GMIs from the NGMIs

i did draw today

>>5234572
>>5235639
are you the same person that always ask for blog or are you multiple people?

I always wondered, when people draw shit like circles and ovals do they always freehand draw them or do they use the shape tool to make them?

>>5235593
Looked at the mirror making the pose and edited it. Thanks

>>5235993
there is, scott robertson uses them. I do think most people just free hand them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9hqkyGrNQU

>>5235993
free handing circles is the most fun part

>>5236002
You improved it, nice
Its a nitpick but curve on the strap closest to her left tit doesnt make sense, would look better if it were pulled taught
Im sure you already know her hand looks bad
Octolings have big ears, though marina's are usually covered

>>5235886
Contour lines when figure drawing are useful to develop an understanding of drawing in 3d

>>5236094
cute butt

>>5235846
thanks for the help i will try to recover everything you said and study more anatomy

Hello frens. I've seen the Vilpu Drawing Manual mentioned several times now but I can't find a pdf for it, anyone have a trusthworthy site to download it from?

Did a bunch of quick sketches before going off to bed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FKZaOComZg
How does he achieve such consistently smooth strokes? Is it simply having a steady hand, the pen quality, or the paper?

>>5236197
referring to the lineart in just the beginning ofc.

Are the Loomis books good for someone who literally hasn't used a pencil since highschool? Is there something even more beginner friendly or are those a baseline?

>>5236208
keys to drawing

Can someone help me out? The pose to me feels so stiff, and the legs aren't helping out either. Sorry if it's anime and for anything in advance.

>>5235092
I’m kinda lost, I almost got heads and faces down but where do I need to go next in terms of human art? Hands, full body, legs, do I need to master one and move on to another? Also, should I pursue more cartoony, stylized art or relastic

>>5236233

>>5236233
You need to work on hair before anything

>>5235767
mostly everything; draw from life/photos and start with easier subjects
see >>5234698

>>5235767

Structure and anatomy are quite off. Sense of form is off. Same thing with proportions.
Crack open the popular resources on figure drawing here, draw figures in poses practicing your observation skills. Study anatomy. Learn how big the torso should be compared to the head. How clothing drapes and pulls over the body.

However there are some positives; lines are decent for a beginner, there's no chicken scratch. Also the gesture and intention of the drawing are pretty clear.

>>5236232
>>5236233
>>5236246
>>5235735
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWWxzrNYt3M

>>5235315
Kind of made her fatter, lol.

>>5236282
It's getting hard to be someone, but it all works out

>>5236282
these are the worst type of posts on ic

>>5236292
The advise video or the requests asking what’s wrong with they’re art?

>>5235974
sexy lines

>>5236298
not the advice video, but the post. some of the requests were asking for help, not for a single video that has nothing to do with their pictures. it's fucking useless information for the moment. why even fucking post?

>>5236277
>>5236246
You have a good sense for color schemes, though you obviously need to work on filling them correctly, as well as the facial features, specifically the black haired girl

>>5236232
I think maybe it’s the legs, they seem kinda blocky

>>5236232
I think maybe it’s the legs, they seem kinda blocky

>>5236197
respond

tips? took prob 2 hours whoöe page

>>5236383
Pick one character or part of this page and spend 2 hours on that.

>>5236391
thanks for the legit advice. excited to do that. heres my work anfew weeks ago. watercolor, which i see as copic markers essentially, habe helped with form a lot.

>>5233649
.gg/freezer

>>5236383
>>5236396
>muh quirky scribbles
doodling is worthless if you cant translate it into a good piece

are people allowed to like my art if my anatomy sucks.... it feels like I'm scamming them

is it any good?

>>5235956
>broken wrist
I'm just going to wait a while before posting because i did not see that yesterday.

>>5236495
if it makes you feel better i like the pose's energy and how yo udrew her legs/ass

>>5235487
Fine brush and ink.

>>5235605
Cool

>>5235654
Yeah, the centre of balance is off. You need to tilt her forward more. Or provide something (like a random stripper pole) for her to lean her against.

Any critique on this?

>>5235956
Steven Universe looks weird in this style.

>>5236519
Thanks fren

>>5236383
This looks fun.

>>5236536

>>5236435
Not really. I guess the lines are smooth and clean, but the faces just don't look good.

>>5236196
noice

i'm 33 years old. i was discouraged from drawing all my life from when i was doodling and drawing comics as a kid to doodling in highschool. i studied stem because people told me to. i ended up hating it and im unemployable with my computer science degree. i work at a cashier for the last five years. throughout my life ive started and stopped trying to learn to draw over and over. at this point i've developed such a complex over being unable to draw and the fact that art communities think people like me are cute and laughable that i cant even set my pencil to paper anymore. every time i try i am filled with insane self hatred for wasting my life and lose all patience with myself. i'm worse than /beg/ tier. all my life i just wanted to be good at drawing but didnt know it and now its too late

to me all the art in this thread looks amazing and i cant imagine doing anything like it. i want to fucking die so bad. i hope people here go on to become what they want to be and become the opposite of me. i cant start anything anymore

>>5236435
I think it is. This style looks strange uncolored/unshaded but I think it will look good

>>5236653
You are a kind person Anon but do not give it up if you want to draw then draw and d not worry about consequences. If you are truly ready to die then there is nothing for you to loose anymore. So just say "FUCK EVERYTHING" and do whatever.

>>5236653
Just draw and stop giving a shit what people think. That's what got me from drawing like a 6 year old to drawing like an 8 year old. Stop comparing yourself to people who have been at it for 10 years and start looking at other /beg/s too.

And how are you unemployable with a CS degree anyway, there's a ton of boring code monkey jobs that are as boring as working a counter but at least let you afford stuff.

>>5236535
the outline on the left bicep is too strong

>>5236664
>>5236662
I just don't really know where to even start anymore. my latest idea was to just try copying and studying an art book i enjoy with stuff like pic related but i just kept having absolute meltdowns with myself as soon as i drew one line. i think im just too mentally fucked to even approach this shit. i cant even draw as well as this which is just some quick sketch concept art that probably holds no artistic value whatsoever to actual arts like on here and elsewhere

and my degree is unemployable because i had no motivation to learn anything and all my skills are incredibly rusty and limited only to academia stuff and they're outdate and i have no desire to ever do computer shit

Trying to draw bigger...

>>5236653
>have actually worked for the last five years
That's pretty impressive, anon.

>>5236670
It sounds more like you're depressed than just frustrated because you can't draw what you want.
Maybe try a hobby that doesn't take years to start being fun on the side, to keep yourself at the base level of happiness you need to draw absolute shit for three hours every now and then and feel it's pointless until it the day it doesn't. Like martial arts, hiking or something.
I'm about in the same situation as you except I still intend to get a STEM job and if drawing was the only thing I did for fun I'd have necked myself already.

As for the art part, maybe start with something simpler. get Keys to drawing and some simple anatomy book like Hampton's from libgen. Drawing random shit on your desk and cubes isn't as fun as that giant golem thing but that will keep you sane long enough to get there.

>>5236653
if watching others bring your morale down, don't do it anymore, especially if it brings you on the edge. If you like drawing, do it without giving a fuck about what anyone else says
>>5236664
>And how are you unemployable with a CS degree anyway, there's a ton of boring code monkey jobs that are as boring as working a counter but at least let you afford stuff.
was wondering the same, a CS degree is worth a lot right now

>>5236701
>>5236696
im just too skeptical of myself man i dont know. i cant fucking do this shit. i thought failure was supposed to harden your resolve but all its done is completely ruin me and i handle it even worse now than i did as a teen. i just want to blow my fucking brains out when i scroll through this thread. then i think about the people i saw in /beg/ 5 years ago and then 10 years ago and imagine how good they must be and i feel even worse because im such a loser
i guess ill try keys to drawing. im sorry i cant post my work but i dont have any way to do that

>>5236696
Hampton is not anatomy

>>5236235
wtf you posted this?

How do you set up the canvas size?
Do you always work at 100% size or do you zoom in?

Do you make a big canvas to have a lot of place then you shrink down the actual drawing?

I'm kinda lost with this

i did this over one of my blender models so i can just focus on the rendering part and i know the perspective is correct.

>>5236722
Zoom and rotate the canvas as much as you need to make strokes as comfortably as possible, but keep an eye on the thumbnail because it's easy to get lost in the details.
Personally I draw with A2 at 300dpi (7016x4961) for printing what I like and it's convenient for random doodling since there's a lot of wiggle room for cropping and fine details, a "small" doodle can be developed into a full pic without it getting too pixely for example. I don't really see the benefit of drawing small unless you want the pixel aesthetic.

>>5236719
Yeah, figure drawing, I always get them mixed up because they're both about naked people flexing.

>>5236722
sketch at whatever lets me see most of the canvas at once, lineart at 100-120 , color at 150.

I use canvas with sizes like 1600*1200 but that's mostly because I'm only posting on 4chan, if I was gangsta enough to have a Twitter account I'd probably go in the 2500 range.

>>5235794
thank you! what do you recommend for anatomy? i am currently reading hampton for figure drawing

>>5235950
why would the vanishing point for the feet be different that foe the back? also you didnt include the hands and knees and you left out the ass

convenient omissions.

>>5235886
If this beginner just keep doing what you're doing. Maybe focus on contour rather than construction if you're that early into it. You need some pen control and your constructions are leading to bad drawing habits because you aren't looking at the figure enough.

I think I'm getting too bored to practice, I keep fucking up simple stuff I didn't a while ago, or at least not that hard.
Maybe I'll take a break for a few days.

>>5236889
just draw easier stuff
it doesn't need to be boring

Haven't had much success with pixel art here before but the only other thread is a schizo so might as well try.
Any better ideas on how to do a glow effect? I don't know if a more complex dithering pattern would help or what.

>start drawing
>get incredibly anxious because not able to draw well
>stop drawing
>do not improve because of not drawing
>get even more anxious from not drawing and go back to drawing
>repeat

What the fuck is actually wrong with me? How do I escape this?

Any advice on establishing a healthy drawing routine for steady improvement?

>>5237015
Start small. Just set a routine of 1 hr a day, but give it your full attention. And see >>5234698

>>5237015
Anon you may be gay....Sorry...

>>5237015
anxiety like that is a result of purporting to others/yourself that you're better than you know you actually are, and you're anxious because you know you won't be able to perform to that standard
the solution is to accept that you suck and/or stop lying to others/yourself
literally just set aside however much time you want per day/week/month and draw during it, with a set goal that you're working towards at any given time
the more time the faster you get better so long as you don't burn out

>>5237015
Stop being a bitch with an ego.

>>5237028
>>5237024
Thanks, anons. Pretty sure are right on the money with that one. Gonna try to be more conscious of this.
>>5237021
Will do, thank you
>>5237023
Please, don't apologize. It's God's fault I'm gay, not yours.

>>5236535
the pose is totally possible but a little unnatural imo. normally when I am resting of a tool (if that is what she is doing), my hand would be more closer to the body. because it feels lighter this way, it is a lever thing I think.

any idea why this looks unappealing?

>>5237137
the brushwork/rendering I mean

>>5236653
>all my life i just wanted to be good at drawing but didnt know it and now its too late
I hate when people say "it is never too late", because, sometimes, it is too late, but in your case it doesn't sound to be too late, wtf?! I would understand if you had a good career, but even then you could still pick it up as a hobby. I think you need to work on self improvement anon. this mentality is no good for you.

>>5236675
>Trying to draw nigger
am I racist?

>>5236722
I work as big as I can without slowing my pc down, because you can easily go smaller, but going bigger is much harder.

>>5236737
nice expression

>>5236889
I have an inspiration folder where I save anything I find interesting, when I don't know what to draw I open it up randomly. or look at my art. most of the time the inspiration comes after a while. if it don't I just scribble something to not lose the habit and call it a day.

>>5237014
do you have an example of what you are looking for? not sure if I understand what you mean.

>>5237015
embrace failure, that is how we learn.

>>5237137
because it is just abstract shapes? why would it be appealing at all?

>>5237014
usually just doing an outline with a color with high saturation/value will be enough
see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGy27KCsBlY (at the part where he draws the neon signs, I cant be arsed to find it)

>>5236737
his expression is so heartwarming

>>5237202
I'm asking about the brushwork not the shapes, see >>5237138

>>5237209
I see, what you consider an appealing brushwork?

>>5237222
this, among others

>>5237229
this too

>>5237229
>>5237232
I am pretty beg, I have just one month with digital, so I can't be of much help, but for me the main difference is the texture of the brush strokes and canvas, maybe try using brushes that simulate real ones, and/or a noise layer.

new thread
>>5237235
>>5237235
>>5237235

>>5237137
Bottom left looks ok, the other ones just look flat and unfinished.

Anyone else here do typography stuff?

>>5236720
what’s weird about that one it looks fine if a bit too rough

>>5235860
This is the most pathetic redline I've ever seen. You will never make it, btw if you don't reply to this your mom will die of cancer tonight.

>>5237015
good talent