/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Why do you sick fucks enjoy raping children? Don’t you realize you’ll burn in hell along with the faggots and retards?

what are some shotacon trying to catch her prey ideas?

>>5226554
Chill dude It's just drawings.

>>5226620
I wish I was a drawing

>>5226300
I posted it last thread. Please include these in the next OP. Thank you.

>General Resources
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dQGxsuqPxuu5V9vjgAWrMjnrMXcWfCFYX-d5imdnRgI/edit?usp=drivesdk

>Specific Resources
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hVzfbqr-0UEck9ux9XBTmxUTGMZ4a-8T3DnBfOxv9iE/edit?usp=drivesdk

>Abandoned(?) FAQ/Q&A
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15rON6jeKul-p89KF5ZYSo4eRLW1kdVaKv8CMt09UgXI/edit?usp=drivesdk

>>5226565
A woman is talking to a boy online in a kids chatroom
They meet while his parents are gone
The plan is to play video games
She brought pizza and mountain dew
The boy spills some mountain dew on himself while trying to pour it himself because hes a big boy he doesnt need help
He runs off to change his clothes
The woman goes in to watch him change in his room
But the boy isn't there
Suddenly from behind her she hears
"Hello, and you are...?"
A man stands in the kitchen, among the spilled dew
The woman walks over to him, giving some excuse as to why she is there
The man pulls a chair out from the table and gestures at it as he says "How about you have a seat over here?"
The woman, embarrassed and confused, obliges. She asks, "a-are you his father?"
"No", The man smiles, shuffling a large stack of papers
"I'm Chris Hansen."

Who is your favorite loli artist anon? I like TypeHatena.

Just sharing what I finished recently.
https://files.catbox.moe/jg9nfn.jpg

Fave artists are Henreader and Om

>>5227240
Cute!

>>5227240
>Om
om_(nk2007) ?

>>5227269
Yes. If there are others with a similar name and have great art, please share.

>>5227273
I was just going by the search bar of gelbooru. The other Oms don't have any loli content (at least that what I saw)

>>5226565
Ice cream woman.

practicing cleaner sketching
>>5226987
ponsuke
haguhagu
mammoth

>>5226987
Fuyuno Mikan

>>5226745
BASED

>>5226987
Kink
Masuda
HaguHagu

Also, is haguhagu a grill? his workstation looks really girly

>>5226300
Why is OP something no one you lazy faggots drew? Delete this thread

>>5227640
My nigger.

>>5226987
Higashiyama Show

>>5226705
Pardon.

>>5227240
Weird, I don't remember posting this. Maybe it's sleep deprivation or something.
https://litter.catbox.moe/wswify.jpg stopped working on it because Krita was imploding.
>Fave artists
Ashika, Mizu, Mochi.

>>5227240
Disregard this post, i forgot i was checking the original artist's work and ended up using the same link as my own. Here's mine https://files.catbox.moe/vzpnad.jpeg

hi

>>5228984
>>5228735
Cute!

>>5226300
The covers for this magazine are very pretty. It’s a shame about the pedophilia though

slowly tying it down, adding clothing
https://litter.catbox.moe/7tzddq.png

>>5227307
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/8883

I just can’t capture a youthful look in a face.

>>5230623
attach a head to a body anon

>>5230638
I get that you’re retarded, so I’ll be nice: I’m working on faces.

>>5230623
Make the faces smaller or the eyes a little bigger. Children have larger heads. I don't think I've ever seen a child with big lips like those.

>>5230623
Needs larger foreheads and smaller mouths

>>5230623
Is Joel your main inspiration

As other anons have said, smaller mouth and larger eyes. Probably lower on the face or larger forehead.

>>5230872
Who?
>>5230737
>>5230779
>>5230948
Thank you. It’s one of those things that should’ve been obvious but I ended up needing pointed out.

>>5230995
Happens to the best of us. Don't know until you know. Good luck friend.

>>5230623
>>5230948
contributing, add some accessories like clips

I’m back.

Second attempt at this girl.

>>5226987
kakure area

>>5231460
Getting better! A lot better. Careful about giving her too strong of a jaw. The faces are a lot better.
>>5231028
Super cute

pedophiles

>>5231840
I know. I though 4chan was opposed to degenerate scum like trannies, pedophiles, and niggers. Or is that just /pol?

>>5231908
being a cumbrained weeb is heavily normalized now, at least we get memes like coomer and horny jail to push back a little. its genuinely disgusting and i would not hire someone who i found liking this shit ever

>>5231840
Have you ever drawn a fictional child before? Studied child proportions in art? Drawn a single character under the fictional age of 18? I guess you're a pedophile now. :/

>>5231909
Kys discord tranny

>>5231908
they seem to like loli when the topic pops up

>>5231460
I think I’m getting closer to what I was aiming for with the hair. None of the proportions seem right, though. A torso that’s 1.5 heads?

>>5231923
nope, just normal. masturbating a lot is unattractive to women, cope

>>5231972
Personally, I've never bothered with measuring by heads. I use other tricks (see >>5224707). I'd say your torso is a bit long, but only by a little bit. The arms are also a tad long.
>>5231976
>Masturbating a lot is unnattractive to women
Not him, but first of all you're wrong. Two that's subjective. Three masturbation is healthy and shouldn't be frowned upon. You sound more like an incel virgin to me, though I'm not surprised, we are on 4chan.

>>5231989
>but first of all you're wrong. Two that's subjective. Three masturbation is healthy and shouldn't be frowned upon.

HAHAHAHA holy shit alright addict enjoy

will post one

>>5232142
nice foot bro

>>5232142
How did you get so good 2000?

>>5231840
>>5231909
cringe kill yourself projecting tranny normie kike go back to watching your favorite movie Cuties

>>5232229
Aww is the wittle pedophile mad somebody called him a pedo? If you showed any normie your shite tier pedo art in real life they’d want to hang you

>grannyfuckers edgeposting

>>5231976
>Masturbating a lot is unnattractive to women
Yeah, but why should I care about women? I have art

>>5232245
cope

more coloring practice

why are you afraid of women? were you molested as a child and now feel powerless against people you perceive as "adults" and must take it out on those weaker than you?

neck yourself pedo scum

One day I'll contribute to this general again...but not today.

>>5232256
Thats mentally unwell. You shouldn't embrace mental illness

>>5232262
This is cute, but it's a bit difficult to tell what's happening - is she riding on top the eyeball character? The lines around the bottom under its ear don't seem to suggest so.

>>5232502
thank you!
no, shes just pushing it down. those are its paws
i will try better nexttime

>>5232198
study the real thing
don't always draw anime

>>5229952
Neat overall, but her head compared to her body (and especially her hands) looks gigantic

>>5232608
I'll go back in and make some adjustments, will probably need to warp/transform something then touchup
thanks

Just made this for the pokemon direct
https://files.catbox.moe/xtt2mu.jpeg

>>5232579
>>5232262
Cuuuuute.... Is she an OC? Or from something?

all you pedos will get the rope before long.

>>5232865
Kys

>>5232870
not before all you pedos are dead i wont

>>5232873
I wish i could rape you when you were a child heh

>>5232865
Imagine getting triggered over a drawing, this is the same faggot that defends murder in media because it's FICTION. dilate you goddamn hypocrite, pedo warmongering Biden voter.

>>5232865
why do people post this in every loli thread on this website? It doesn't accomplish anything, telling people to kill themselves isn't going to change their minds.

>>5232904
Super easy (You)s
Ignore them

>>5232734
Cute

>>5232836
oc

>>5232605
Where do I find cunny?

>>5233785
Well then, as of today she isn't anymore. Consider herself stolen.

>>5233827
Nowhere.

>>5233785
She's very cute. Is there a greater world she is a part of? Would you be alright sharing more about her? I like her a lot.

>>5233827
st jude

takamichi is a god. I own one of the collections of his LO covers, it's just surreal to physically see his work printed in real life after gawking at it online since i was a teenager.

post another one

>>5233860
this is gorgeous.

>>5233827
You can find non-nude reference easily.

>>5233933
Cutie, though I think the mouth is a bit too high. Very nice hair and proportions!

>>5233950
>though I think the mouth is a bit too high.
its not, retard

>>5233963
Go back to /beg/.

>>5233975
They both looks like shit and that faggot was clearly trying to rip off CLAMP

>>5233980
And you're not constructive in any way. Sounds more like you're jealous over how nice and clean their work is. Go back to /beg/ because you don't know what you're talking about. Opinion discarded.

>>5233950
>>5233963
>>5233975
>>5233980
Yeah, I was watching Cardcaptor Sakura and doodled it for fun. idc if you don't like the style, you're irrelevant

>>5234013
stop copying anime.

>>5233975
it looks better with the mouth high

>>5234016
I don't always draw lin this way, I was just watching an anime with a style I like and wanted to try it out, then posted it here cuz it fit the theme. Am I only allowed to draw with the intention of learning something? Or is this thread only for posting pics asking for advice? I was just bored
I'm discarding your advice for being an anus

>>5234018
It's too into the nose section. Even for older anime standards where mouths were right below the nose, it's still a bit too high. My version has a more realistic position, so I'd understand if they'd still prefer it a little higher. I see the appeal of the higher mouth, don't get me wrong. But it's just too high in the original to work with the proportions already set by the rest of the face.
>>5234013
It's a great style and CLAMP's influence reaches many people. Disregard >>5234016, it's a great study and it's okay to study things that aren't reality. Not every study has to be of real life. You did a fine job and have great line control and I can tell you have good experience under your belt already. Keep it up!

>>5234034
>>5234032
You idiots do know that it looks the way it looks not because of a style but because it is designed to look good in motion under a budget? Stay stupid.

>>5234032
It's fine to just post art here as long as it's on topic. We just get our fair share of crabs here along with it already being a slow board, so people don't have much else to do. Ignore the crabs, especially those that give you nothing constructive.
>>5234039
No, it's a style thing. If you'd look at the source material, the higher mouth is common. Budget has nothing to do with it as it doesn't cost any different to move the position of a mouth. There's literally zero reason why it'd be a budget related reason to have a higher mouth. It's just the art style of the era. Many other series, some taking influence from CLAMP, also had higher mouths. I'm an animator. The only reason CCS mouths are good budget wise are their simple shapes. Not their positions.

>>5234039
you do know that your head is full of poopoo and stinky shid an fart?
The style appeals to me so I used it. You're still irrelevant and what you like/dislike isn't important to anyone

>>5234049
I love Sakura so much bros

>>5234044
>>5234049
Wasn't referring to the mouth in general that was the other Anon, I said both look like shit because the design is inherently shit it's meant to look that way to animate on the cheap. While we're on the subject on mouths, I suppose sidemouths are also acceptable simply because it "appeals" to you and is part of muh style?

>>5234059
>Inherently shit
Opinion discarded. You're no longer worth my time with how close minded you are with your head up your ass.

Some art from me to stop the derailing from the anti-Sakura fag.

>>5234063
and you have a confirmation bias that wouldn't even listen to anyone that isn't part of your little echo chamber god forbid someone coming in with a critical observation of your Chinese cartoons that doesn't circlejerk to it.

>>5234069
>That broken arm
Let me guess, you saw this shit on an animay and thought it would be cute just like the pigeon toeing crap.

>>5234071
>he doesnt break the skeleton in his figures to get a more interesting pose
NGMI

>>5234069
She's cute, keep practicing!

>>5234072
Thank you for reiterating that the broken toys are contained ITT

>>5234070
Nobody asked for your worthless observation
Lots of people think it's cute while being aware of it's anatomical deviations. It's. Just. Cute.

>>5234081
Based.

>>5234070
Your meds anon. Take em.

>>5234081
You've essentially just admitted that you're in an echo chamber full of yes men with nothing better to say other than it looks "cute" and here we have another floating amawu head with the obligatory 3/4 view and triangle mouth.
>>5234087
Well meme'd friend :^)

>>5234089
You're not cool/interesting/more knowledgable just because you don't like something popular

>>5234089
>its another "3/4 views are lazy" episode

>>5234091
Not an argument.

>>5234095
Did you think this thread was for arguing? We're here enjoying a nice style and not caring that some nobody doesn't like it.

>>5234104
Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize that this board was exclusively for you and your little buttbuddies maybe you should fuck off to a Discord channel and circlejerk to how great triangle mouths are.

Stop replying to the obvious bait guys. He's just trying to stir the pot.

>>5234114
No, I'm not I am simply making the statement that you're trying to learn from a source that has been made to look good in motion under a budget hence the simplified shapes and proportions that are incorrect but part of a grand design to look good in motion. Stop copying anime you fucking retards.

>>5234072
>not intentionally breaking the skeleton during your walk cycles to get more dynamic motion

>>5234119
You don't understand what you're talking about. Come back when you grow up.

>>5234119
I was drawing in the style without the intention to learn, simply because I like it
Nobody is saying the style is anatomically correct or universally appealing, but despite that me and many others find it cute
We know you don't like it, but you're unimportant and your opinion is not worth enough to change people's opinion

>>5234119
Its almost like realism and still art isn't the only art style in existence! What a concept! People doing unrealistic art styles in a fictional space? Preposterous!

>>5234123
Unlike you, I'm willing to listen so help me understand and justify the reasons for the triangle mouths, and my favorite the side view mouths other than the fact that they're used for animating on the cheap. I'll give you the benefit of doubt, maybe like the other faggot said he is an animator and is under a tight budget which must meet a strict deadline so he sacrifices form and detail to meet demands. I'll be waiting.

>>5234128
Imagine someone calling it shit because it's shit. Just imagine.

>>5234135
No, you aren't. You're just another anon that goes "ANIME BAD!" And that's it. You refuse to see things any other way and continuing to talk to someone like you is pointless. You don't understand what you're talking about. The fact you insist every drawing that isn't animation must be overly detailed only proves that point. Grow up.

>>5234135
buddy i think you have the wrong door, the loomis club's 2 blocks down

I'll even go as far as giving you an example of an overly detailed figure with your iconic head because that's what it is an icon but you're not going to get the same altered forms from copying anime this comes from life observation and essentially "breaking the rules" after having a competent understanding of fundamentals in order to successfully create a stylized but believable figure.
>But all I want to do is learn to draw muh japanese animays!
There's no need, the fact that you're on this site shows you've had plenty of immersion even if you don't watch animay you're still exposed to it on a daily basis from this site alone unless you haven't been immersed in the genre there's no reason to "study" from it you're not actually studying you're being lazy and you are unable to draw independently from imagination.

>>5234178
You're strawmanning. You're in a thread comprised of people drawing with heavy anime influence. Just seeing anime everywhere doesn't mean you don't have to study it. There's so much wrong with the post, but considering you just posted uncensored nudity itt, you probably don't have much time left to live. Good riddance.

>>5234178
>Anime good but only when I say it is
Get your head out of your own ass.

>>5234178

>>5234178
>This immensely triggered by an uncolored casual sketch
>Triggered because of anime
Point and laugh

>>5234191
>>5234198
Still waiting, change my mind.

>>5234178
why are you assuming that this is all new information to us? You're not completely wrong but the level of presumption here is irritating.

>>5234207
Well, quite frankly you are all retarded.

>>5234210
pyw

>>5234207
If he wasn't such an asshole about it, there could have been interesting discussion. He's just one of the tards that hates anything anime and cause trouble. Not worth anyone's time. It's all bait anyway.

>>5234212

>>5234221
>Draws anime
>Doing the exact shit he gave others shit for
>Bad anatomy
>Bad proportions
>Can't draw twintails for shit
Kek

>>5234221
anon please everyone recognizes you

>>5234221
idk what you were going on about mouths and shit but CLAMP's style is cuter than yours

>>5234232
Leagues cuter. I'm surprised he has such a superiority complex when his shit is only barely passed /beg/ tier. He can't even draw a half decent ear. My sides.

>>5234196
Extremely based

>>5233829
please dont do that
>>5233833
thank you for the kind words
eventually i plan writing more about her, right now im too embarrassed to share anything ive thought of, its not that fleshed out

>>5234283
That's alright. I'll be looking forward to when you are ready to share! Until then, I will just enjoy how cute she is. I really enjoy how you render fluff and hair.

>>5234196
Please don't leave, Anon, I really like your art.

>>5234221
>Skull fucking massive
>Hair going to twintails doesn't make any sense
>That's not an ear that's a flap
>Space between mouth and lips
>Must be on the side of her face eh?
>Boring profile shot
>Neck not twisting realistically
>Broken neck
>Twintails themselves aren't done and lack any detail
>Eye highlights are in the wrong position
>Armpit too high
>Shoulder width too narrow
>Eyelids don't make sense
>That fucking ear
What a fucking clown.

>>5234289
I mean just watch CCS or something I'm using it's style anyway lol
I usually draw more bara-y type stuff

>>5234323
nice drawing anon

>>5234323
based anon dabbing all over mikutard

ITS JUST A MATTER OF PRACTICE RIGHT???
AFTER A THOUSAND BOXES I'D TOTALLY GET ANIMU HEADS RIGHT???

>>5234323
Are you comfortable sharing any art socials? I fucking love your work you Chad you. Based flexing.
>>5234350
Boxes are good, but assuming they'll help you learn everything is a fools game. You need to study more than boxes friend. Start with boxes, branch out, then after a few years come back and do more boxes. You'll get there. Keep going.

hopefully hampton helps me draw cuter shota

>>5234637
adorable. blog?

>fag who can't take criticism triggering fags who can't take criticism of their criticism
was wondering why there was so much activity

>>5233852
Man, I want to get physical copies of LO but I'm not sure if they're even allowed in my country. :V

Is this legit? His way of drawing looks like he is tracing from something

https://mega.nz/file/HnQSnDKA#dYyGS2fvadvYmaZC1yXNOC7IltuL1T1CQBq8wiADYpg

>>5236075
Considering he nuked most of his art on Pixiv, someone probably called out on his tracing

>>5235053
>>5235664
You two, give me your blogs

>>5234221
idc if you are a massive faggot, pls post blog i want to see some nico drawings

>>5236075
he claims he use references to copy but doesn't trace

>>5236075
>>5236103
>>5236548
Who's the artist in question?

>>5235664
please share more!

>>5236258
thank you, I typically use pentaerythrit0l on twitter

>>5236584
Murai Renji

>>5236716
Also, he apparently lurk /ic/

more practice

>>5236716
i remember seeing an animation of his that was absolutely rotoscoped

>>5236307
Kys

How did zeppelin got away with this cover?

>>5236802
because most people don't look at children sexually, and something like this is seen as "artistic". there are also just plenty of artist that draw naked little girls, both contemporary and throughout history, and they're seen as expressions of beauty and appreciation of the human body, as opposed to porn

pic related for example - bouguereau's "Cuipdon" fron 1891 (sorry for quality). the guy has plenty of naked adolescents but no-one cared. my point is, it's how you use it, not what you're using

>>5236874
They didn't care because it was 1891. Even just 1980s was a very different time for this. Try doing that today.

>>5236759
c'mon don't be shy, lemme see your crap

>>5236874
This. It's the reason why Lewis Carroll got away with photographing his neighbors' naked kids. I don't think even he saw them sexually.

>>5236912
>Try doing that today.
Throw in some hanging meat in the background and I guarantee you a politician will buy it.

>>5237313
He got away with it because nobody gave a damn even if he did see them sexually. He could've straight up fucked them back then. Hell, a good chunk of the US still lets you do that so long as you marry them first and that's only just now started to change. The hysteria around pedophilia is a very recent thing.

>>5237327
Sure, I can agree with this, but a large part of it is that some people just didn't see kids sexually back then either. Sure, it's become a huge deal in recent years, but it's a preference like anything else is what I'm saying.

>>5236802
in the 70s you could just buy child porn magazines

>>5237546
holy shit

>>5236732
fix the bow legs

If i want to draw lewd loli for money where do i post it? I already sell stuff on insta etc but id rather this was completely separate obviously

>>5234013
Do not post your art if you are so sensitive, next time.

>>5237576
pixiv and the fediverse, the biggest fediverse node is pawoo.net i think, which is also japanese, nips love their loli

>>5237580
Big thanks friend. I know i am not even near the level of a large majority of these artists but i make a few hundred off stickers and stuff so this should be okay for me.

>>5236912
Lot of money for child pornography at the time too, I was born at the wrong time, fuck whoever decided to make it illegal

>>5237638
it probably was by a woman specfically the segregationist

Thoughts on making it more appealing?

>>5237897

>>5237909

>>5237897

bigger forehead, make the hair of equal length on both sides,

i like it when the ribcage is more visibly prominent, since she's kinda leaning backwards

>>5237909
Damn, now that I took a little break I can see the eyes are quite off, thanks.

>>5237638
$1 billion in the early 70s was a shitload of money, holy hell.

>>5238327
imagine what the epsteins of the world are making now

>>5226300

>>5238483
Kek cute. Love her hair and big meaty claws.

i don't know what to draw

>>5238576
draw a loli drawing an artist

>>5238576
>Put down random shape and/or a bunch of random lines
>Use that as reference and inspiration to create something

>Random word generator

>Warm up with gestures
>Draw random props
>Draw something at different angles
>Draw shapes and apply shading for form
>Practice heads at different angles
>Practice hands and feet
>Practice foreshortening and perspective

>Draw an emotion
>Draw that emotion again but with even stronger emotion
>Repeat x3 min

>Use random/any character creator
>Hit randomize
>Use output as inspiration

>Choose genre
>Choose setting
>Choose personality/trope/cliche
>Choose weapon (optional)
>Choose culture
>Think of at least 2-3 unique traits of said culture
>Combine into character design concepts

what you do when you got to much freedom on a commission? im getting into a zone where i have no fucking clue what to do with some character with very lose request,

Hey fellow pedophiles! Tell me a good site to go to for "references." Feel free to e-mail me at: totallynotthefbi@fbi.gov.

>>5239088
google, just type in smol cute child

>>5239654
adorable, love that she's an AT fan too... I'd ask for your blog but I've asked 3 others in this thread and none of them cared to share

>>5239654
what brush do you use to makes those lines, i love how they look

>>5237580
>the biggest fediverse node is pawoo.net
Don't forget baraag.net

>>5239861
thank you
voreparty
>>5240023
thank you

>>5239654
love your stuff i aspire to draw like you

>>5239861
what's AT

How does Barasui manage to get married as a lolicon artist? Does his wife not care that he draws little girls for a living?

>>5240934
Lolisho is more normalized in japan you'll have a harder time finding someone who's willing to overlook that if you're western

>>5240934
It's fine to draw/paint kids as long as it isn't porn

>>5240934
female lolicons aren't uncommon

>>5241223
literally an upskirt panty shot drawing of a little girl

>>5240934
because in pedo biden's america or the west they love fucking real kids. so they get triggered when you are drawing fiction porn instead because it's not real.

>>5240934
Maybe she sees herself in the drawings... or, rather, what she (and many women) _wish_ they were.

>>5240932
Aphex Twin, electronic music artist (her shirt is the logo)

>>5240934
Pedohysteria does not exist outside of the west

>>5241229
Of course not, they're daycare workers and school teachers.

I tried going for a Range Murata sort of style.

>>5242680
that skindentation is restricting bloodflow

>>5242680
Blog?

>>5242680
now is your chance to improve on his style and give the girls actual lips

>>5242680
Pretty shit desu

>>5242680
the face is pretty, very, bad. everything look sexy

>>5242931
Range Murata is not known for pretty faces

>>5242680
Blog Please

>>5242947
murata is based

fugg

>>5242947
You better not be using image related as an example. His faces are always pretty good. Sameface-y, but pretty.

>>5243084
>dead eyed cartoon
>pretty

>>5243090
You're either trolling or have shit taste on this anime basket weaving forum

>>5243084
Aesthetically, they are bland emoticons

>>5242788
>>5242958
I'm still learning so I dont post very often.
What I've posted here is leagues ahead of all my other stuff.
I will try to keep up and improve on my current quality
That said pls no bully.
https://twitter.com/BamSlam64

>>5243158
You're absolutely tracing and then drawing your own faces on a lot of these. It's obvious because your anatomy seems copied from someone better and then your faces show your true skill level.

>>5243158
well, you aren't tracing on this one at least. you just suck

>>5243183
>>5243158
They need to spend more time on the bigger shapes. They're getting caught up in the smaller shapes.

>>5243158
lol imagine using someone else's fanart as direct reference for your own art

>>5243169
This. Didn't even have to see his other shit to notice. There are constant inconsistencies where there shouldn't be. Normally I'd understand, I was one of those kids that drew eyes too much and for a while my faces were way higher quality than anything else. Created a big mismatch... But he shows a level of understanding of some techniques that he should be able to easily apply in places lacking. Props to the guy for trying to apply his own work to it. You can see in many parts of >>5242680 such as the face, parts of the hands, thighs, bow, and hair... To this guys credit, if he didn't just mash together assets, he does a pretty good job at coloring. Maybe a decent grasp of form too. My guess is the torso is the part that is either traced or heavily copied. It's at a much higher quality than everything else... He probably cut pieces of different images together, transformed them a bit, and drew over it. My thinking is the head, which is actually at an appropriate angle, was the reference. He then drew a face on top of it, but he doesn't properly understand the way a face looks 3/4ths right.
If he's actually trying to understand the images he's copying, he has pretty top tier painter potential. A pretty natural feeling for form. But he's probably just copying without thinking...

>>5243193
I wont deny I used Umbra as ref/inspiration
No idea who the guys work you pulled from but I'd like the sauce he is good.
>>5243200
I dont trace anything I use alot of different reference. Kienan Lafferty advice is to steal from alot of sources to make it your own which I tried to apply here. Im still new I only started drawing 3years ago and only try my hand at pieces that arent studies pretty rarely.
>>5243183
Thats literally a photo study as I said it was in the tweet. No tracing just trying to learn like everyone else.

>>5243183
The hunchback of booty damn

>>5243221
Are you saying for the rouge the bat photo you have never seen the image I posted beside it?

>>5243187
I've heard this before but have a hard time grasping the idea. I will look into it more, thanks for the feedback.

>>5243225
rofl thats a good one. I did fuck that study up big time.

>>5243221
Sorry man, but with the extreme amount of inconsistencies, either tone down your copying by a lot more or study your fundies more. You borrow things from other people's art styles, practicing them, and trying to apply them to original drawings. Different angles, from your imagination. Your own art style will come naturally as you grow, but stealing by copying exact parts of images won't do you any good but get you into trouble... And if you do ever choose to recreate, keep them as personal studies. Don't post them anywhere. That's just stealing the hard work someone else put in because you may be copying it at surface level.

>>5243244
I know what plagiarism is I'm not just grabbing pieces of a bunch of artists and stitching them together if thats what youre implying.
I will agree however that there are alot of inconsistencies and thats mainly because I suck, plain and simple. I did not put in as much time as I should on the hair and bow because I couldnt get it right.
I got my ass kicked by that bow and hair.

>>5243268
The thing is, you suck. You've said so. But the level you're really at doesn't add up to some parts. For example, the torso is near perfect, arms and legs aside. Too good for the skill level you show off elsewhere. You can't convince me that you didn't trace it or do some photobashing. Plain and simple. If you're going to do so, always remember that your real skill level will show in the places you can't copy and across multiple drawings. Listen, I've been there. Learning from copying others is good for newbies to an extent. Just don't post the ones with heavy copying or tracing without giving credit to what you studied. Don't let this get you down and keep working on it. I meant it when I said you had good potential in coloring. I have a good eye for it. Try blocking in forms sometime instead of drawing them. Just paint. It's what your naturally leaning towards. Use it to your advantage.

>>5242680
>>5243158
Thanks for the critiques and ass shredding I sincerely appreciate it.
I will reflect on this and return hopefully a little better.

Does anyone have good pictures of sculptures?
I can't achieve the level of realism I want from referencing anime so sculptures and paintings are the only nude reference I can use.
No, mods, I am not asking for anything pornographic or anything involving real people. I'm asking for tasteful, artistic nude sculptures that one might find in a fine arts museum or public park.

>>5243326

what do you think the sculptors used for reference?

>>5243326

>>5243341

>>5243344

>>5243348
What's the significance of her hand? Why is it posed like that? Rich people prostate scratcher?

>>5243326

>>5243344
>>5243341
>>5243326
I've heard the greeks were pedos but wow.

See also: the work of painters like William Bouguereau, whose rendering is so detailed it might as well be a photo of a sculpture half the time. He's known for his paintings of young women and children/cherubs.

>>5243352
no idea, statue is called Anne of Buckinghamshire.

>>5243356
greeks fucked everything, man

>>5243361
>Anne of Buckinghamshire
neat

>>5234013
you're a pathetic pedo fag. die mad

>>5243366
>chest hair

>>5243326
just practice with adults figure..

>>5243366
here is the sculptors page by the way
https://robertmileham.com/my-work/figures

>>5243366
poor thing looks cold as hell

>>5243374
You realize children bodies and adult bodies are significantly different right? Proportions, fat distribution, height... Very different.

Are Oppai Loli allowed or are they just shortstacks?
What is the difference between shortstacks and oppai loli?

>>5243374
Adults and children look completely different. That's like saying you can just study men and adjust their proportions to draw women.

>>5243381
You're right, however you can backwards-engineer a lot of kid anatomy by just "regressing" adult anatomy. Having a good understanding of how the body grows and changes as a person ages can help a lot with this. pic related but it's just some shit i googled, find a better reference for studying, obviously.

>>5243383
shortstacks are fully developed adult characters (within the context of whatever world they're in, fictional or nonfictional) who are just short, small, or stocky. They are not considered loli due to this distinction in context. Stories and art featuring them usually have different themes and a different core appeal than that of loli/shota

>>5243383
Oppai loli is a child with large breasts
Shortstack is a midget

>>5243397
Why are they not considered Loli if Loli can be argued to be about body type rather than age.
And what you just said only answers the question of shortstacks but not oppai loli

>>5243390
To get better, you need to study from reality. I'm not saying look at anything unsavory and I don't view a naked body of any age as inherently erotic. You can't just reverse engineer it. Fat in the body especially, is the hardest to get down. It's vastly different in children and that's integral to understanding the shapes and form of their bodies too. Of course, to an extent, all you really need to do is adust proportions. Cartoons/anime styles get away with this more. If you're really opposed from learning through reality, most people study from our peers. We all know loli artists that draw some detailed semi-realism work that, even if a little off, is completely passable. Good for study.
>>5243383
Oppai loli is okay, but they have to be loli with big tits, not obvious teenager with big tits. Though I'm picky with oppai loli and don't enjoy it much.
>>5243402
Shortstacks typically have more muscle definition and are clearly just smaller mature bodies. Children have little to no muscle definition and have different proportions. There is a clear difference between the two.

>>5243402
Short stacks have adult curves. Lolis do not. A short adult woman is very different from a little girl.

>>5243397
imp midna is not a shortstack going by canon proportions, she has slightly endowed hips in contrast to her chest

>>5243366
She’s.. so beautiful

>>5243369
lol shut up, you're in this thread too

>>5243397
How are shortstacks any different from 1000 year old lolibabas

>>5243695
could be a bunch of stuff
the amount of sag
wrinkles, skin folds
sun damage
body hair
muscle definition maybe
ways to differentiate between a compact adult body and a body that doesn't age

>>5243356
the boy sculpture was made by gustav eberlein and the man worshiping delicious flat chest was made by auguste rodin

>>5243353
Sauce?

>>5243764
Uchi no Tonari no Shougakusei wa Kinpatsu Hekigan Ecchi-zuki by miyasaka takaji

>>5243402
loli is never purely about body type. appearances alone can go a long way to generate the appeal, but even in stories where the loli character is actually an adult, the narrative will inevitably point out how the appearance of said character resembles that of a child of the fictional setting, usually jokingly or mistakenly.

shortstacks are unambiguously understood to be mature adults in their setting, just really really short ones. The only way to legitimately confuse lolis and shortstacks is to intentionally ignore context and/or narrative, which you would be retarded to do as you'd be missing out on a whole dimension of unrealized potential.

>>5232142
Link to full drawing? Looks pretty good.

What are some good realistic loli artists? (eyes not related)

>Reference pack.

Includes pictures of a head from different angles. I've found these reference pictures a few years ago, and I think it could be useful.

https://mega.nz/file/nUYFTRwD#aLi-BzFGW7xKQI3ALenzwwVHvLL1ZZTV3eLCYu2QIE8


I am not posting pictures here, just in case m0dz go full Auschwitz.

>>5243885
whyd you put it in a rar

How do you guys decide poses for your drawings? I'm stupid and my viewing angles suck. I don't want to spend 2 hours planning out the pose and 1 hour drawing. Any tips?

>>5243888
Because I want you to suffer. Kek.

>>5243895
fucking anon

if we put everyone who posted in this thread in one room, the smell would be worse than anything the earth has ever witnessed

>>5244543
Wrong. Lolis like me.

>>5243870
Hideousbeing and diathorn come to mind. There is also people like alkemanubis who does more like a "pixar" style.

>>5243889
Do more quick gesture studies. Ignore details, consider silhouettes more. Play with perspective and foreshortening. You need to build up your library of poses and the best way to do that is through gestures. Consider doing them on a short timer as well.
>>5243885
Before downloading random zips, can anyone confirm the contents of this? It's more concerning that it's in a zip without any previews, I'm more inclined to see it as malicious. Feels sketch.

>>5244639
>Feels sketch
Okay, you win. Here's a folder.

https://mega.nz/folder/yMRFiCLa#cusvmSznUSNQgLbSAnhMHA

>>5244650
>drawing from real children
thats a good way to go to jail.

>>5244650
>>5243885
What is the URL file at the bottom? I run the threads resource catalog and it seems fine besides that one file. I'll still give it some time before adding in case someone else catches something off with the collection. Given its all clear, thank you in advance for sharing. It seems to be a good sample of head references.
>>5244661
You need to study from reality to improve and better understand your subject. One file aside, all the images are SFW and do no harm.

>>5244664
女孩头部建模参考图maya 动画、游戏、影视区 - 天琥设计师论坛
Girl's head modeling reference image maya animation, games, film and television area-Tianhu designer forum

>>5244664
>>5244677
Don't worry about that link, I just removed it.

If you have some money to spend, I guess you can check the original site, for they have some interesting references for 3D designers.

https://www.3d.sk/photo_sets/search/query//thumb/small/standard/1/premium/1/category-3/18-20/category-581/Studio%20photo%20references/page/1

>>5243718
Seems like a cope to me
>heh, she is 1000 years old? Pedo
>this, on the other hand, is not a child because the wiki says so

>>5243383
did this to prove the point a while ago. just add oppai

>>5244948
What was your point?

>>5243790
That was really cute :)

>>5244948
Whats the point?

>>5244948
Where can I see the uncensored version?

>>5244955
he's a pedophile

>>5244948

there are women out there RIGHT NOW on the left that exist

>>5246931
So? They're not lolis so why would you care

I'm beginning to think people here are legitimate pedos here.

>>5247193

>>5247193
you've been here no more than 1 month
you're that much worse than a 2016 tourist

Who is your favorite loli or shota from your childhood /lsg/?

>>5247193
and? its like you think pedos are bad people or something

>>5247193

>>5247418
and an fyi, japan is known to hide and not report their numbers, and its by far the worst country with the amount of secrecy in that business. theres a doc on that so, search it up if you must.

>>5247193

>>5247397
Ciel Phantomhive

>>5247759
How do I draw like this

>>5247193
Your on 4chan, come on
>>5247417
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>5247774
Start a comic series. Work with deadlines. Practice drawing things under a time limit. Draw roleplay with people, the added pressure pushes you forwards.
Kuroshitsuji wasn't always as beautiful as it is now. She's been working on it for over a decade. It takes time and less slacking.

>>5234221
How can you be such a smug cunt when you're this permabegtarded. I wonder what made you this way

>>5247795
non violent pedos are less worse than fags, homos, criminals and sjws.

>>5247417
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK LOL

Need some advice desu
I think this is more than I can munch on my current skill level
https://files.catbox.moe/4xmk6d.png

anyone else cringed when you see role players asking for wickr shit on pixiv

>>5248231
Practice your fundies and read the /beg/ OP. Trying /box/ for a month or two wouldn't hurt you either.

>>5248343
>/beg/
Thank you for your advice
I wasn't sure if I could post that on /beg/, that's why I posted it here

>>5247803
I never thought about the draw rp that's really smart

Lolis! I love lolis so my much. Cute little anime girls.

Any thoughts so far?

>>5249338
your line weight is way too heavy and leaves no room for detail

>>5248936
>>5226300
kys pedophile scum

>>5249352
That's just the sketch, the final picture will be much larger with clean linework but in the meantime I'm looking for feedback while it's still easy to change.

>>5249592
i like this idea anon, never seen something like this and i'm glad it's now real

>>5249338
draw kai instead

>>5249592
I am delighted, amused, and moderately aroused

>>5249597
>>5249606
What's happening in it ?

Lolipits

>>5249823
her wings are those personal alarm buzzers

>>5250284
nice hatching

>>5250272
Lolitummy
Lolibutt
Lolichest
Lolicunny

>>5249338
Tweaked some things but might just go ahead with it if I'm not going to get much feedback.
https://litter.catbox.moe/qcd2vo.jpg

>>5250801
gave me a boner fwiw

>>5250801
Nice banana

>>5226565
It’s Venus and she got hit with one of her son Cupid’s arrow and spends all her time trying to find ways to trick him into the act. Except she wants to be the top

>>5230623
Unlike adults whose eyes go right on the horizontal face line when drawing kids the eyes go below it. Also their eyes are bigger in proportion to the head (natural considering our eyes stay the same size and don’t grow). There’s two things to keep in mind while drawing kids

>>5250864
>>5250836
Doh, drew the banana as a censor but forgot to move it over the chest.

>>5248488
Drawpile is well known for it, but most public servers/hosts don't like loli/shota. So if you're going to RP as one there, don't do NSFW and don't mention NSFW loli/shota. Just don't stir the pot and it can be pretty fun and great practice.

>>5251217
>>5248488
>>5247803
What is "draw roleplay"?

>>5247437
>the absence of evidence of child rape just goes to show how big of a problem it is in Japan!
That's not how logic works. Japanese immigrants don't commit a lot of crime in our countries, so I don't find it hard to believe at all that they don't have the equivalent of middle-eastern grooming culture at home.
Sure, some of the Japanese elites are undoubtedly child rapists - like everywhere else, but that's a completely different demographic from "dumb otakus who hang up posters of anime girls in their bedroom".

>>5250284
very nice. got some inking resources you'd recommend?

are you people not tired yet of arguing about the same exact things over and over in every single loli-related thread for decades?
why is it even such a huge deal to be morally-right and justified about something on an anonymous imageboard to begin with?

>>5247437
You say that as if under reported shit like the Rotherham case aren't a thing in western countries as well.

>>5243397
https://twitter.com/NotBoogie/status/1352315556142198786

>>5251566
If new people can make up their mind about what's real and what isn't by laying out their honest thoughts in an anonymous environment without fear of judgement, isn't that a good thing?

>>5251585
>make up their mind about what's real and what isn't
what does that have to do with anything

>>5243193
Pic source for the one on the left?

>>5251597
does drawing loli art make you a child abuser? does it enable other people who are? instead of parroting orthodox wisdom, it's better if you make up your own mind and act out of conviction - but with taboo topics, people aren't usually given a place where they can openly question the assumptions of the perceived majority.

>>5251627
>does drawing loli art make you a child abuser? does it enable other people who are?
this all should be intuitively obvious to anyone who isn't lobotomized.
the only related thing that is even worth debating is the "is any contact between a kid and an adult the same as brutal rape, torture, and murder", anything else has been discussed too many times already, or is just as obvious as the above.

if a person is so new to this that they can't even make up their mind on simplest "are drawings actually alive?" questions, maybe they should fucking lurk more instead of talking, as they supposed to do.
or, at the very least, should make a thread specifically for debating, and not go into threads such as this one to shit it up every time with the same regurgitated bullshit non-stop. it's a constant eyesore, and a waste of space on everyone's screens.

so, to answer your previous question, yes, i think it's good that people can debate such things without fear of judgement, in order to sort their thoughts on the subject.
EXCEPT that's never what's happening. everyone has already made up their mind. no one convinces anyone. no one voices their own thoughts either, what's happening is exactly what you said: everyone parrots what's accepted by the majority of their side. recycling the same words, same points, same pictures to illustrate them, same intentional misinterpretations, same, same, same, over and over.
i don't know about you, but i'm just tired of seeing trolls successfully bait overly defensive lolifags all the time in such threads.

>>5251684
>i'm just tired of seeing trolls successfully bait overly defensive lolifags all the time in such threads
Because they're normalfags who on some level feel ashamed of it. They're self-conscious about it and how society perceives it despite it being a harmless and beneficial outlet, so they lash out. It's free (You)s.

>>5251559
I don't have any actual resources/guide I follow but my general process is something like this although the order isn't strict:
>0.5mm, tie down all linework from the pencil sketch
>decide on a lighting direction
>0.7mm, thicken all lines on the leeward side (see the wings/buzzers for example)
>thicken up interactions, folds, areas where objects are close to each other (see bloomers fabric around crotch, her right elbow)
>pencil or 0.5mm, draw outlines of shadow shapes and cast shadows
Outlining shadow shapes with pen gives a different feel when it's finished, play around with it
>0.5mm or 0.7mm, block in shadow shapes depending on what final value you want, make sure to follow contour
>pencil or 0.5mm, draw in highlight shapes if desired
>hatch everything else with contour/wrapping lines, stay out of the highlights

>>5251538
To put it simply, you pick your character and draw them interacting with another character. But the other character is controlled by someone else still. You take turns drawing the next part of the scene or character action. Draw fights can also definitely happen too. Wherein each person takes turns drawing the next part of the fight. Though, remember it's okay to lose Drawfights. It's more a practice in group/collaborative story telling.
With some people, they just like to have characters talk a lot. It's great for practicing your characters, well, character. Seeing how they'd act in the improvised scenarios.
Some people like drawing more, so you'll see a lot more movement and scene changes.
Just depends on what type of roleplay you're doing and who you're doing it with. It's actually a lot of fun, albeit, a little stressful if you're doing it live on Drawpile...
Some Drawthreads do drawn roleplay too. /b/'s Drawthreads used to be famous for it, but good luck if you go there nowadays... I think some threads on /i/ occasionally have threads for roleplay... I wish we had more threads for drawn RP. Besides being a great exercise, it's just fun.

Yowch.

>>5247437
You might as well say "yeah but the age of consent is 13 in Japan and those are just crime statistics," if you're gonna spout misinformed shit. Lowest age of consent in Japan is 16 btw, the same as in the United States. The 13 figure that comes up if you google "Japanese age of consent" is the lowest a prefecture is allowed to set their age of consent, but none actually set it that low; similarly, the federal age of consent (the lowest a state is allowed to set it) in the USA is only 12 iirc, but no state goes lower than 16. 15 and 16 are the most common ages of consent in developed countries, by the way, in case you're an actual puritan who thinks 18 is some kind of magical cutoff and anyone who would consider so much as looking askance at someone under that age is some kind of third world subhuman monster.

Pornography laws generally cut off at 18 because of a combination of the convolution introduced by distribution across multiple jurisdictions (ie you may be able to have sex with a 16 year old legally in Alabama, but if you were to film that and give the footage to someone in Florida a few miles away, where the age of consent is 18, it would be a tape of sex with an underage child) and the historical treatment of pornography as a whole as immoral thanks to selection pressures among social taboos themselves (ie things that make you satisfied not procreating prevent you from having children who you can teach to be raving lunatics who obsessively bring more children than they can support into the world in turn, so before the mass intelligentsia ideas of contentment and appreciation for sexual art would perennially spring up and die out, while ideologies of reproducing at all costs were durable).

Of course, historically, pornography has frequently been completely illegal in societies where it was acceptable to have sex with girls as young as 9. In other words, the age of consent is inversely proportional to the minimum age allowed in pornography.

>>5253711
base