/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

i'm a /beg/ and i'm gonna try it..... as soon as i buy a drawing tablet.

>>5220591

i tried it a few times, it sucked all of my will to do art for month, maybe it is just me though, idk

it's the meanest prank you can pull on a beginner. unirnoically.

>>5220847
Same. I understand the importance of drilling fundamentals, but man I must be really weak-willed. I'm guessing it's like playing an instrument. Do you need to drill chords and scales before trying to play a simple song? I don't know how it works, but Id probably give up on that too. I could play some crappy semblance of the song, but I might have fun doing it, and then focus and improve parts I had trouble with.
I don't know, I'm untalented and weak-willed with any artistic pursuit. I'll just watch everyone here work and improve

>betty edwards haters btfo

>>5220708
drawabox says you have to draw with fineliners on paper, though

>>5220871
I think the barrier comes from not having the right subject matter. If your goal is to draw cute waifus, this lesson plan is going to be the driest, most mundane boring shit you'll ever see. The whole goal of this program is to teach your how to think in 3d and apply the construction to your drawings. If you can get into that mindframe and try to apply the lessons to subjects you enjoy drawing, you'll get much farther.

>>5220891
Wrong thread

>>5220895
fuck that shit

>>5222061
tradbros...

>>5220895
>meanwhile box man uses tablet for his tutorials

>>5220591
While I'm still going through it the lessons and excersizes ars pretty good, just make sure you absolutley draw for fun alongside lessons 1,2 and the 250 box challenge or you will burn out very fast and become one of the crabs that shits up every drawabox thread

what are your goals

>>5220591
>that box
>that perspective
>those ellipses
that can't be real

>>5222595
https://www.deviantart.com/irshadkarim/art/Drawabox-The-Fundamentals-of-Drawing-527076947

>>5222598
Yikes. I took a look at the website and found this:https://imgur.com/gallery/KYUWHmS

This is /beg/ tier. He has no business teaching anything related to form and perspective whatsoever. Holy hell.

>>5222609
looks like a student that just didnt actually follow the lessons

>>5220871
>Do you need to drill chords and scales before trying to play a simple song?
Before making your own song, probably. You don't need it to copy one.

Fundamentals are to art what music theory is to song writing. You can make stuff without it but it will be easier and better if you know your shit.

>>5222637
My bad. Still, that box is unforgivable. I guess some of the basic exercises are useful though.

I'm doing the 250 box challenge right now. I already got more than half but at the moment I can't bring myself to draw more than 5-10 a day

>>5224975
I could draw 5-10 boxes in less than a minute, pull your shit together

>>5224984
propably not the way it is required for that exercise, I could also shit 10 boxes on a page in less then a minute but that isn't the point

>>5220591
Yes. I have a lot of boxes drawn.

Now if only I could learn how to do everything else.

>>5225008
Then what exactly is the exercise? How is this anon only drawing 5 boxes a day? that sounds so demoralizing.

I’d shoot myself in the face if drawing 5 boxes drained my motivation to draw the rest of the day. Sounds awful. Like the worst exercise ever created, specifically designed to make someone give up on drawing.

>>5225014
> drained my motivation to draw the rest of the day
why does it have to be that? It propably is just about the motivation for drawing boxes specifically

>>5220591
His perspective shit sucked out all interest I had in it, and it's making it hard for me to fucking go back into perspective over how much his lessons sucked on it. Complaining isn't going to make me any better at drawing waifus, so I might as well try and find a good book on it or something. I've noticed he's recommending Marshall Vandruff's lessons, whats the general opinion on em?

>>5224975
I only did 5-10 a day as well anon. The whole drawing a box thing is definetly the biggest hump/noob gate of the course but you'll get through it. Just be consistent and draw at least 5 a day

>>5220708
dude just start now. Stop procrastinating.
If you are good on paper your skillls will transfer pretty welll.

>>5224975
>>5224984
>>5225414
I think the draw 250 box challenge is dumb. Doing a few like 5 or 20 boxes each day is better cause you're gonna retain it and you're not gonna want to kill yourself. Bored? Just bash out a few boxes, easy.

why do /begs/ keep doing this to themselves. You know the instructor sucks at drawing, you can use your eyes. Just check his art. Why would you even bother with a course he designed. That's like a Grade 1 student choosing to learn from a Grade 3 student instead of a teacher. Sure he may be right, after all he did learn from a teacher but the teacher is 10x better. There's so many other courses on perspective. Come on.

>>5220591
Myself and other artists i know got a lot from it when starting.
Mainly the 3d thinking n consistency which is pretty much the core things you need.

Is it perfect? Not at all but its constanttly being improved , its pretty good. Like if i had to start over from skill level 0 theres a few things i wouldnt do but i would do draw a box again.

Its free. Give it a try

>>5220591
>Draw flat things a thousand times.
>Become advanced symbol drawer limited by his mental library.
or
>Draw boxes and apply them to understand how things work in a 3D space.
>Become architect and construct thicc waifus.

you guys actually fell for this prank? While you're drawing boxes, people out there are copying anime and making money.

But hey, if someone has a fetish for boxes and half finished x-ray drawings of gymnasts suffering from boneitis, then you're gonna make it.

>>5225455
>boxes
>copying anime and making money
KEK

>>5222682
good analogy

>>5225455
get back to drawing beggo

>>5225455

>>5225456
wow those are some very boxy tits im glad i spent 300 hours drawing cubes in perspective!

>>5225035
If you're looking to understand perspective, Marshalls lessons are great. He doesn't really give any exercises or ways to practice it though, so that part is up to you.

>>5225433
You are meant to do it like that anyway anon, I feel like most of the hate for this site on this board comes from no one actually trying the lessons past lesson 1

>>5220591
It's certainly not for the ADHD anime zoomers around here since it requires self-discipline but it teaches you good line control and generic construction.

>>5220871
>Do you need to drill chords and scales before trying to play a simple song?
You should be doing both, and drawabox recommends at you spend at least 50% of your time drawing what you want to draw without restraint.

>>5227475
It's literally just tits built with very precise construction around boxes and perspective.
You lack the perspective to realize it since you still have an outsider's mentality but drawing is a lot more methodical than you think it is especially when japs are involved.

>>5220871
You don't drill fundamentals
You learn, you apply, you repeat.
/ic/ tends to skip the apply and repeat part in order to rush to the next big thing while keeping up mileage juggling every fundamental at the same time
You can't just go through an entire book in an evening
Take your time on a single subject so you save it to memory
30min-1h of fundamentals and applying said skills in practice will speed up your progress a lot more than just drilling them and drawing thousands of pages of boxes

>>5220871
You're not weak-willed you're probably more of a moron. Try doing this, just read a book on perspective or reread everything in draw-a-box, and don't do any of the practices/drills. Just try to wrap your mind around the concept of perspective until you understand it and it "clicks".

Once it clicks then do the drills. Hell I didn't even do the drills because once you wrap your head around the concept/principles doing the drills is pretty easy and straightforward and once you have it internalized you have it forever.

It scares me the amount of people who don't understand this. You guys were probably the people in school that didn't listen to the lecture and would get home and cram homework and say "I DIDNT LEARN THIS!". Well if you listened to the lecture and tried to wrap your head around the concept in class and ask questions you wouldn't have to cram with no base knowledge at home.

Talent doesn't really exist either, the people that super secede and become better than their peers can just break down complex topics/subjects into manage pieces or "understand what's going on" because they've wrapped their head around the underlying principles.

>>5220896
>The whole goal of this program is to teach your how to think in 3d and apply the construction to your drawings.
It scares me how little people understand this.

>>5228298
pyw