/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5211532
They take a huge fee so they can donate to BLM you Nazi bigot

>>5211546
bigot deez nuts

>>5211546
ikr
stupid artists think their furry porn commission is all for theirs to keep

>demands all your personal info
>wants all ur scanned docs
>freezes ur money
heh...think it's that easy, kiddo?

>>5211532
"huge fee" yeah if you're poor. lol

>>5211546
/thread

>>5211532
why not just getting a bank transfer? Sorry I don't know how money works Its a serious question

>>5212357
because most of the people that ask those kind of questions are kids, so they don't have a real job, so they don't have an account in a bank like any real adult. Also since they don't work they are those kids that want to draw porn or erotic illustrations but don't have balls to be serious about the transactions so they want to go hidden with alias or be anonymous, that's why they always ask if paypal shows your real name

>>5212417
I do have a bank account, but how do transfers work if your client is from the other side of the world ? also what if you want to remain anonymous ?

Since this is a paypal thread- how easy is it to setup a company name so your real name is hidden? Has anyone here done it?

>>5213795
I did, it's very easy
I haven't used my account to receive money yet so I don't know for sure that my name is hidden though. But I do have my company name displayed

>>5212417
That's some huge projection there, bud. The only reason I even have a paypal account is because paypal was THE thing to use when buying on ebay. But now that paypal isn't the the PB for ebay's J anymore everyone just so has a paypal account.

>>5213795
Convert your PayPal to business one, i did it to mine, same prerequisite

>>5213795
Some say that paypal will eventually freeze your account until your provide bussiness documents so its not a good idea in the long run

>>5214279
>bussiness documents
... They expect something like a tax license or some shit? It'd blow.
Wanna remain anonymous though. I wish some other platform got more popular not to put up with their shit.

>>5214305
Yeah you need to prove thar you actually have a bussiness.
My plan is to just use a middleman like patreon, maybe even onlyfans lol since it has a pay to view thing so you can get the commission payment that way and then send the actual file through email or however that is done. You do need to provide identification to patreon and onlyfans but I guess its safer than just giving your name to every commissioner you get. I don't know I'm still trying to figure something out.

>>5214319
Patreon sounds best for a subscription based model atm but afaik they don't have anything for commissioning

>>5213814
no is not, even in this same thread you can look exactly what i said:
>>5213792 >>5213795 >>5213803
>>5214305 >>5214319

>>5214305
>>5214319
You retards know you need a business to earn money in general, right? You can’t just have a patreon and not pay taxes.

>>5214344
>You can’t just have a patreon and not pay taxes.
make me, retard

>>5214348
They literally have multiple systems in place and a license for violence to make you, that’s how they earn their wages.
You don’t think your bank hides your transactions from the irs, do you?

>>5214362
Okay sure I'll fucking file them I'm sorry

>>5214344
That sucks

>>5214369
>paying a portion of your earnings to your overlords so they don’t put you in jail and confiscate your property sucks
no shit
my favourite part is when you pay your income taxes and then go buy something with the remaining of your money and pay taxes for paying the seller and the seller pays taxes for getting paid, you come back to your lovely home and pay taxes for owning it

>>5214398
israel won't pay for itself

>>5211532
>2021
>not using Transferwise
NGMI

>>5214617
Does transferwise require clients to make an account? I've never heard it talked about much so I imagine it would be a problem trying to get all your clients to pay you through an unfamiliar service

>>5213795
Really easy, I have my paypal as company with fake name since 2015 or so, I was scared that twitch streamer could see my shitposting donations that I refund and mess with me if they had my real name
LLLLLLLLLLL 2?

>*uses cash app*
The fee is negligible and it's easy and instant.

>>5214877
cashapp only works for us and uk afaik
I’m in the anglosphere and I can’t use it
also probably limits your market by a non-negligible factor even if you live in one of the two countries

>>5214632
no but they need to be able to make bank transfers, ACH if in the US, SEPA if in Europe

>>5214891
Everyone in America has either Cashapp or Venmo

>>5214908
>missing out on the g*rman furry money

>>5214896
good luck convincing people to use some random app and upload their bank account info with no recourse in case they don't like the end product

>>5214933
>What are the requirements for my personal TransferWise account?
>When you get bank details for the first time, you’ll need to add 20 GBP to your account (or equivalent in your currency) and verify your identity.
>If you're getting USD or EUR bank details, you'll also need to upload a photo of yourself holding your ID as part of verifying your identity
LOL

>>5214947
>add 20
It's not a fee, you get to keep the money
>a photo of yourself holding your ID
you gotta do the same to lift the limits on your paypal acc...unless you haven't gotten past the 2500 minimum ofc..

>>5212013
I know someone who had 30k frozen and never given back despite him having proof it was work related. lol

>>5214961
>you gotta do the same to lift the limits on your paypal acc...unless you haven't gotten past the 2500 minimum ofc..
No you don't. I've had paypal business acct for almost 15 years now, ,mostly for selling on ebay (before ebay converted to it's new retarded payment system) and the only time I had to verify myself was when I requested the debit card. Even then they only asked for my SSN or TIN. Prior to that they never asked for a depost PLUS my id or any stupid shit like photos of me holding a passport.

>>5214961
I’m in NZ, I had to give them my driver’s license just to make an account
I think burgers are the only ones with lax rules until they start making money

>>5214980
Probably because it’s an old account, I had to go through some shitty test where they withdraw some money from the account and I have to report how much they withdrew to prove it’s my account. Also had to give them an id, and prove I’m not laundering money a while after making a business account

can you hide your name when using transferwise?
asking for a shy friend

Man why does this have to be so complicated JUST LET ME GET PAID WHAT IS THE BIG FUCKING DEAL GLOBOHOMO MOTHERFUCKERS

>>5215047
getting paid is easy, what the fuck are you talking about
>b-but I don’t want to pay for the service

>>5215058
I don't want to give my personal information

>>5214364
Good, have a pleasant day.

>>5215064
Take crypto then

>>5215071
I don't know how to invest...

Fuck taxes get payments in shit coins or bitcoins.

>>5215071
>>5215086
I wish. There aren't that many people out there willing to pay in crypto. Getting fags to pay with anything that isn't Paypal is hard enough as it is

>>5215094
Make an anonymous LLC and sign up that way.

Paying taxes is such bullshit

>>5215037
If you need verify yourself by photo, what do you think?

>>5215117
I don’t care if they have my id, I care about the buyers having it, I doubt the photo is so they can send it to buyers along with the invoice

>>5215107
You porobably never have to pay any with how little you make.

>>5211532
Here's what I've concluded from platforms I've used:

>Patreon takes a platform fee, and transaction fee, as well as an extra dollar (if you use payoneer to deposit), which ends up taking about 15% of your income.

>SubscribeStar takes 13.4% plus $35 transfer fee

>PayPal takes 4-5% if you use invoices and another 4% if you do currency conversion.

>Gumroad takes 7.8% and that's it.

I'd say PayPal and Gumroad are the lesser or those evils.

>>5215186
I don’t even have a job, I make money through selling my blood plasma to a private company and the gov. still taxes me

>>5215186
I have to pay for the privilege of having paid money to buy a house
I have to pay for the privilege of exchanging money for goods and services
Even if I literally never earned a single dollar to get taxed on, it would still be robbery

>>5215372
your taxes keep libraries open
Even if you don’t like libraries, they fund public road infrastructure

>>5215379
>roads
I don’t give a shit, I don’t even go anywhere, they can toll the people using them
>libraries
lmao what year is it I have literally thousands of books on my ereader, just charge people for library access or oh gee I don’t know, stop pretending there is a need to hoard paper books like fucking cavemen
>oog oog we need to tax you to pay my cousin’s wages at the stone tablet archival facility now that I got him a cushy job
fuck off

>>5215394
go live in the woods homie, sounds like you would like it

>>5215489
what a coincidence the woods are government property and you can’t live in them without buying the land so they can tax you for the libraries and roads wink wink

>>5215362
Thank you for the summary. Personally I use Patreon to hide my identity for sexy art, but I'm working on a professional portfolio to get freelance work and that's obviously going to be charged via PayPal or bank transfers.

>>5215379
>your taxes keep libraries open
>Even if you don’t like libraries, they fund public road infrastructure
In my country the true tax percentage is 75% and it definitely doesn't go to roads, libraries, schools or anything nice, it goes to corruption, cartels, sjw projects like gender neutral traffic signs, and bringing in terrorists directly from Syria to live on welfare.

>>5215719
... Bong? Has to be

>>5215379
lmao if only..we both know most of the money goes to the army, debt or corruption

>>5215796
what has happened to this country?? it seems to be full of shitcunts like that guy

>>5215379
nah the german state subsidizes nogs and sandnogs with the tax money. its robbery.