/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

What kind of plan do I need to buy to clone the whole thing myself?

I was actually planning on not reposting it at all. But some threads have been actually useful for a change this week, with people helping themselves so I figured I could do the same for a the last time.

Threads to be thanked:
>>5174518
>>5177505

This one for making me find an artwork That had rolled thrhough my ArtStation timeline never to come back:
>>5180615

And...
>>5178391
Well, it's porn but it's people helping themselves instead of taking a dump through their keyboards so, what the hell. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

aaaah I’ll clone it tomorrow

>>5181374
How do you clone?

>>5181437
Well, does OP say to clone it tomorrow or regret it later? hummm

>>5181374
>Nebula Award Winners for Best Novel [ePub]
Why? Not complaining though.

STOP reposting it.

NEVER stop reposting it.

Separate it out into some smaller torrents so it can't get taken down.

>>5181374
Any chance to make a torrent out of it?

>>5181419
Anon, could you make a list of all the files in the mega?
I tried searching about making it from a public link but everything that I found involved doing it with the files on your own cloud.

>Put files under a decryption key
>Put instructions for the decryption key somewhere, even an image does it
>Put instructions once, never repost
>Tell people to look for key on the archives
>Folder lifespan increases 10 fold
At least that's how every other MEGA folder manages to survive for long periods of time and become somewhat resistant to reports.

holy crap that's a lot of stuff.

>>5181941
This.
Anyone that plans to backup the mega again, please do something like this.

>>5181374
How tf do I clone almost 3TB of stuff ?

>>5181374
Can I clone with a free account?

>>5181925
>Anon, could you make a list of all the files in the mega?
This tbdesu. Would be really useful.

which cgma and schoolism courses have you found to be the most useful?
already got craig mullins digital painting and dynamic sketching

>>5182159
Stop being poor pay 10 dollars and press a single button. Clones in seconds

>>5181437
>>5181444
>>5181500
>>5181502
>>5181509
>>5181511
>>5181925
>>5181941
>>5182040
>>5182159
>>5182830
>>5182831
>>5182845
All great Ideas. It's on you to put it into practice.

As I've said I'm out so that's on your hands IC, I believe in you.

>>5181374
does ic have a mega of reference images still? I remember seeing something like that a few years ago

>>5183344
dunno if /ic/ has a mega for that, but >noah has a bunch of references packs for free including landscapes on his gumroad
https://gumroad.com/referencepictures?maxPrice=0

Why not make it a torrent?

>>5183362
>anons download the 3 courses they want
>delete .torrent when it's finished downloading
>torrent dies

>>5183366
only host the torrent as one huge zipfile.

>>5183362
this torrent is from the last video course thread
It seems to have most of the good stuff from the archive

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0aebc0f02e6c179b62e04c69af3e5adee3abee12&dn=IC-STUDY

you're a saint for saving it.

>>5183316
This is what I'm going to do. I will create 200 free accounts for clone the entire mega files.
Thanks OP.

>>5184517
thats going to take more time than youre gonna spend watching them

Holy smokes batman

>>5183400
thank you very much sir !!

>>5181374
>>5181419
>>5183316
Don't mind me just reporting it.

>>5187143
based

>>5187143
kys

>>5187189
say it again, slowly

>>5187143
>>5187147
fuck u

>>5181374
holy based

which vilppu course should I watch? there's like 3 separate ones, which seems to come between 20 years

>>5190121
none of them. Because you're stealing from him.

>>5190121
all of them, because you’re stealing from him

>>5181941
The password should be an /ic/ meme like Loomis, Crab, or NGMI.
>>5181374
Anyway best of luck guys keep practicing on your art.

Did anyone clone it yet?

I imported everything to my cloud drive. What happens when my storage becomes over the limit? Does MEGA actually delete files or will I have to download everything eventually?

does anyone have the full erik olson?

Please I've been begging for Some Stephen Bauman Patreon stuff. Kind stragners please do the noble work. :)

>>5187143
Based crab, fuck everyone else. Remember, the more people that make it, the lower your odds. Art is a zero sum game with finite resources to give. Don't be a retard and fall for the lie that it won't affect you, we already went through this once by shipping all our jobs out to third world countries with NAFTA and boomers believed the same lie.

>>5181374
how does one clone this?

Any chance to get the Dorian Iten course? Mastering Light & Form, looks awesome

I already reported this illegl activity

>>5194339
It has never been easier to learn art or find resources. The sole reason you aren’t completely eliminated right now is because people are too lazy to learn. Not because the resources aren’t available. Every second you spend crabbing is an entirely futile waste of your own limited time

>>5194663
>It has never been easier to learn art or find resources
Yes, because reuploads like this are everywhere.
>Every second you spend crabbing is an entirely futile waste of your own limited time
Nah, if all the crabs did their part, we could wipe out these leeches and stomp down the competition, while each only taking 5-10 minutes out of our day. Passive crabbing (ie: just not helping anyone) takes no time and is simply a mindset.

For every top patreon earner, that's 1 less piece of the patreon pie for everyone else, and this truth extends to industry work.

>>5181374
I realized recently that its 100% possible to stagnate as an artist. If you just keep drawing its totally possible to not improve.

Stay vigilant and keep looking ahead, frens. Don't pass up this opportunity to learn more about what your art is capable of.

Which ones are enjoyable to watch?

>>5194763
god what a faggot. I crab all the time just for lols but holy shit it’s actually your lifestyle

>>5194763
>we

>>5181374
HOLY SHIT THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD

>>5191207
>Does MEGA actually delete files
Yes download that shit you fool

https://gumroad.com/moderndayjames?sort=page_layout#AxOTrN
Anyone has this?

We need /ic/ torrents indeed. Direct download is too volatile.

>>5194879
It's 3TB if you haven't noticed. How the fuck is anyone supposed to clone 3TB? Especially on Mega which caps your download at like what, 2GB a day?

>>5181374
Mega Anon, do you have Kyousougiga Picture Visual Book?
This link on artbook docx and archive is dead:
https://mega.nz/#!7np01B6B!ainU2eboG2dwTi52U2gZTuFZ8Jl7uohtb6Nsq7scPXk

It's uploaded around 2018, so I was wondering if any old lurkers have this artbook.

>>5196716
You probably won't like this answer, but here's what you can do.
Mega caps you to 5 gigs every 6 hours, or 20 gigs per day if you use a download manager. If /ic/ can start a discord and organize 20 or so people and assign each person to download different parts totaling 150 gigs, the group can conceivably download the entire collection in just over a week. Each person can then create a torrent of their files, or 10 free Mega accounts and upload their parts (it is ideal to rename or archive every file so that the hash value of the file is changed.) If you only share the torrents and mega links amongst yourselves, those files should be completely safe.
Setting up a 3TB torrent is just asking for trouble, if this person is in the US. It would cause a huge spike in his bandwidth usage, and ISPs are going to look into it. It's also likely he doesn't have all of these files on his computer, the Mega being cloned from other accounts.

no one has a cg peers account to get the will weston composition course and add it to the mega?

I'm actually going through each course and book and I'll be compiling all the useful courses and books and discarded all the useless ones.
This could take months and possibly years.
But one day I'll have it all ready and post it here.

please, i need to know what's inside "Watts approved books", somebody help.

>>5198788
you don't need to know, anon.

>>5196892
it’s like 10 bucks a month mate, I could just make a torrent? I’ve got the whole thing in my spare space on mega for shits and giggles

Im browsing the mega and I am looking at some of these chinese artist courses. None are translated, are they any legit useful ones? Especially for amateurs? They are pretty huge downloads.

I am just blown away by the quality of the art from the teachers, How the chinese so fucking good?

>>5198818
Then just do it. That other poster obviously isn't paying for an account if he's complaining about download caps.

>>5199069
There is no way in hell you could ever arrange all these random anons to execute this mission impossible conspiracy idea of all making free megas and contributing it to a torrent. These niggas don’t have 10 bucks between them, and for that reason alone, fuck making a torrent

>>5199088
Yeah, I know it's a long shot, I just wanted to put that idea out there. I do happen to do that with a small group of people (not for art stuff though). 1200 accounts and counting, 40tb+ worth of stuff, and not a single mega has gone down yet.
I suppose asking people to creatively solve problems in a thread devoted to easy solutions might be a bit much.

>>5198788
Bridgman, Loomis, Huston, Famous Artist Course, some reference books, nothing unusual

>Dandon Fuga 56 GB
Fuuuuuck...

>>5181391
If it's the same one I have you need the 20 euro one or whichever gets you more than 3TB of storage

>>5200658
8tb for 20. The one under that is 2tb for 10 I believe.

Does anyone else have a problem with JDownloader downloading slower than clicking on a file and downloading it via browser?

Man I downloaded a shitload of stuff by just hopping between 3 different IPs when I hit my download cap on each one.

I got a ton of books and all of Peter Han, Vilppu, and Will Weston. and 1994 Marshall Vandruff perspective.

I thinking as a /beg/ a combo of Peter Han and Marshall Vandruff should be pretty accessible and good? Then once I get my mileage I can start trying tackle serious anatomy with the skills I picked up.

Now the real struggle is just having the balls and the courage and the patience to sit down and actually do this stuff. I won't let you down whoever uploaded all this stuff and I fucking thank you forever. Have a ton of this shit stored on my external HDD now.

>>5202271
JDownloader is slower because Mega is throttling it, but you can download multiple files at the same time so it ends up being faster. Considering there's the 5 gig per 6 hour bandwidth limit, it also doesn't matter.
Set it at 4 parallel downloads and let it run in the background.

>>5202275
>I thinking as a /beg/ a combo of Peter Han and Marshall Vandruff should be pretty accessible and good?
yes
+ Bargue Plate

Thanks brOP

i would upload the Vilppu folder myself, but where can do so that would allow such large video files for free?

>>5181496
>Nebula Award Winners for Best Novel

It disappeared from the mega... I'm guessing it was for inspiration though.

>>5194859
I think what's most funny is his combo of being threatened by everyone but still delusional that he has power over their futures.

>>5181374
virus dont click !

anyone have the rest of Erik Olson's perspective?

imagine having some young, fresh pussy right next to you and completing ignoring it for some bones

Where da Key

>>5203926
>young
>fresh

https://mega.nz/folder/5AZzCC5J#3ivrlGUN3y8yUk6h64RdAg

Vilppu how to draw animals stuff, It should be added to The Mega if possible.

>>5204776
Screen recorded, seriously?

>>5205102
Take it up to Vilppu, Bitch !

>>5204725
I'd fug her

anyone have head drawing charles hu from nma?

i feel like i got all the essentials but i don't want all this to go to waste

>>5205825
this is what i have so far
everything else looks like memes but i wonder if there's something i missed.

>>5202288
>Considering there's the 5 gig per 6 hour bandwidth limit, it also doesn't matter.
I can simply change my IP by reconnecting to my router, so that was never a problem.

>>5202288
>Set it at 4 parallel downloads and let it run in the background.
Is there some way for JDownloader to copy the folder structure? I mean, let's take Proko's "Anatomy of the Human Body Course" for example. It has a million folders upon subfolders upon subfolders and so on. All of it is being downloaded in one big folder instead of being neatly organized.

>>5206231
if you want, i have organzied proko's videos into just the absolute necessities and doesn't even go over 5-6gb.
i removed all the critique videos, examples, and livestreams and only kept the absolute essentials with the PDFs and references.
idk if you want that or if you want the entire thing

>>5206293
i forgot to mention that i converted all of them to 480p which is why it's so small
it doesn't bother me personally but i don't see much use in seeing Proko's face in 1080p HD quality or the anatomy which he draws with crisp details as I could just check the 3D model images

>>5206293
>>5206294
>i don't particularly like Proko and i spent way too much time on this for it to just sit in my hard drive
https://mega.nz/folder/rFE0mTIK#oBEEsXSjj19GeZxCg_wzpw

>>5206333
i appreciate your effort anon, but Proko's anatomy is just one of those things where its better to just buy it. It's too much storage, the 3d renders are essential, and the assignment/critiques might just be the keystone of the entire program. Anyways, get drawing!

>>5206231
JDownloader organizes folders automatically. You just need to use the link for the folder rather than the individual files.

>>5206337
>assignment/critiques might just be the keystone of the entire program
nah, bro
definitely not

i skimmed through everything two years ago and found those to be of no use
you really don't want to have an Atelier who can barely draw from imagination crit you on something you could figure out yourself

>>5206440
Never mind, I found out why it didn't work.
Pic related.
I thought it didn't matter that nothing was filled in, but that tick basically overwrites the packagizer rules in general.

still vilppuing

>>5181374
mmaterials in there?

>>5209301
don't waste your time with vilppu mate
that shit is shilled here like a meme as with Loomis

>>5209668
I can't tell if people meme about hating Loomis, sure Loomis is not anything super advanced, but it serves it's pupose, it's a method of abstraction that teaches you basic "rules" that would take you much longer to learn otherwise, and even after you learn proper, detailed anatomy you will still be using what Loomis taught you. The same can be said about Vilppu.

>>5209689
Someone is just crabbing in every thread hating vilppu today. Loomis and vilppu are both (obviously) useful

>>5209301
I was about to go with his course when someone told me its a meme and now I'm just doodling and lurking /ic/ everyday without learning jack shit

>>5181374
Almost all art courses and books are a waste of time.

>>5209707
This made me actually lol

>>5209668

i watched all of vilppu in high school (when i was 16)

it is not a meme , I'm 28 and just refreshing

vilppu, especially, form, is core to not having your drawings look flat.

>>5209702
genius, I’m gonna stop watching courses now too

Hey does anyone have the means to rip this from artstation?

would appreciate it right now, going through a dry spell of productivity in this rat race. the competition is tough being self taught and my recent efforts have seemed futile or perhaps misplaced/lacking direction. im hoping our god Craig Mullins can bestow some words of wisdom. if anyone could, please share

>>5209301
which lesson is this

>>5181374
Thanks...b-but what I get now????

>>5210730
good names:
>Glenn Vilppu
>Steve Huston
>Will Weston
>Rey Bustos
>Craig Mullins (in schoolism)
>Karl Gnass

>>5183400
god bless whoever's been seeding this the past few days

>>5210731
>Craig Mullins
If I'm a tradfag, is he worth it?

>>5211672
his course seems to cover basic stuff like edges, values, colors, etc. No real digital tricks, but he does give various digital workflows. I'm not totally sure though, I haven't really thought about the course from a trad pov but its worth checking out, its only a few gigs iirc

Does anybody have the CGMA courses "Fundamentals of Perspective" and "Figure Drawing: Anatomy of Style"?

>>5210760
np faggot

>>5209689
That's not the point.
The point is that Loomis is complete shit for beginners and shilling it as if its some kind of golden pill to solve all your problems is what is annoying about this board.
Tell me, did you read the ENTIRETY of Loomis' books?
No?
Then why the fuck would you recommend it to beginners without explicitly stating first the pages which to ignore?
I know why.
You dont know how to teach beginners.
Your fucking mind can't get its head wrapped around the fact that people can't just copy shit and learn what they need to know without trying to completely absorb the book.
>>5209694
Have you been drawing as a child?
If so, your opinions are irrelevant.
You idiots could learn from Mark Crilley's meme manga book so you can't fucking tell me or other adult artists what is or what is not a good resource.
Just because your art is good and you say that Loomis and Vilppu helped you DOES NOT mean that they are the reason your art is the way it is.
I'm 100% certain there are things that people like you forget to mention because they are so ingrained in your self conscious that you dont even realize that beginners need to be informed about specific ideologies or techniques or ways of thinking about drawing because they seem obvious or second nature to you.

So yes. I stand firm in my belief that Vilppu and Loomis are fucking useless.
Look at the fucking beg threads every once in a while.
If your advice about Loomis and Vilppu was so good, why the fuck do people still draw like absolute shit in the beg threads despite using Loomis?
I'm only stating facts. Look at the fucking evidence.

The Art and Science of Drawing by Brent Eviston seems to be, right now, the best for absolute beginners because he first teaches control and how to look at a drawing and the mindset you need without all the rambling that Volen CK does.
All the shit he teaches might seem redundant to you but you dont know what being an absolute beginner at 30 is like or how to teach.

>>5212188
You don't understand Loomis or Vilppu at all. This mindset will kill your progress in the long-run

>>5212188
I know I'm not going to get anywhere with most of the people that reply but I'm hoping that people that look at this can realize that this entire board is a fucking meme and the evidence is the lack of improvement of the people in the beg threads despite taking the advice here.

Call me a shit beg or whatever you want but it only further solidifies my point that you people dont know what the fuck you are talking about when it comes to teaching beginners.
You people are only good at teaching /int/s how to become slightly better /int/s and that's fucking it.

The rest of the time, this board is fun for shit posting and artbook/video courses threads.

>>5212197
No shit.
That's the fucking point I'm trying to get across.
Beginners will never understand Loomis or Vilppu because THEY ARE NOT FOR BEGINNERS.
They are for high begs and ints who want to get to the next level.
99% of the shit Vilppu says isn't immediate and practical advice and is only useful and understood when you have mileage.

>>5212188
God shut the fuck up

>>5212217
No, you absolute faggot.
Provide a fucking counter argument and prove me wrong or fucking concede dumb fuck.
You know I'm right and you're trying to play it off fucking dick head.

>>5212216
people recommend Loomis/Vilppu not because of personal experience, but because of the fundamentals he expounds. No good artist would recommend MarkCrilley, or other inferior learning resources because they don't have the right fundamentals that you need to learn. There are things that run through our minds when we draw, every single time we put down a mark. These are the things you need to learn and these are the things that Loomis/Vilppu talk about. Just because it got tough for you doesn't mean they're shit learning resources.

>>5212224
>Just because it got tough for you doesn't mean they're shit learning resources.
So if they were 'tough' for me then does that mean I am a special case in which I am the only adult here who has tried to draw past their 20s who actually had problems with either of these resources or are you going to continue to tell me that they are still good for beginners despite not even using them as a beginner?

This board is ironic though.
All this "pyw" shit just to prove a point and yet when I throw that ideology back at you, I'm somehow in the wrong.

If you only listen to people based on the level of their artwork with the ideology that if they must prove their opinions with PROOF then would it then be strange if I asked (You) to prove to me that (You) know what the fuck you are talking about?

Did you start drawing past your 20s?
No?
Then shut the fuck up because you have no evidence that your advice works for a specific demographic.

I am not saying or doing anything that this board hasn't done.
I am using your exact ideology against you and showing you how wrong it is.

You cannot shill Loomis and Vilppu to adult beginners having not used those resources until you were more experienced in drawing.

Then again, I could be a special case but somehow I doubt it.
What it looks like to me is arrogance.
Calling people retarded because they can't get through an objectively difficult book to understand as it was not made for beginners and then wondering why no one improves much in beg.

Go ahead. Go on the fucking beg threads and see for yourself. I'm sure most of you faggots avoid that thread and probably even hide it everytime it shows up.
Then we get fucking dumb shit like ASG and you wonder why they get upset at you.

YOU created the mindset of ASG. That's what fucking happens when you act like an arrogant piece of shit and make learning art more difficult than it should be.

>>5212221
I didn’t read your post or your conversation. Nobody reads giant blogposts, fuck off. Start a blog

>>5212309
yeah, drawing is hard. No doubt. You might not see results for months. It really does take 8+ hrs of effort a day, not even joking. No wonder you're this frustrated. Nothing will click for you immediately.

Also, I don't know what you mean by ideology or anything. I never asked you to pyw. But whining this much will make you look like a retard, no matter how correct you are

>>5212314
Dumb fuck.
Go spew your ignorance in some other thread.
Next time, slap the fucking shit out of yourself if you ever think about saying something as ignorant as this again.

>>5212335
next time shut the fuck up before you sit and type out a 1200 word essay for no one

>>5212332
Nigger 8+ hours a day is another stupid ass meme that is shilled to beginners that does not fucking work.
Grinding dumbass shit for 8+ hours a fucking day doesn't work.
Drawing with intention for 8+ hours a day is what shows improvement.
So how the fuck is a beg supposed to know what to draw for those 8+ hours a fucking day when they dont know shit past "Loomis" or "Vilppu"?
8+ hours is the SAME FUCKING SHIT as Loomis and Vilppu.
You draw for that long when you're already experienced not when you dont know what the fuck you are doing.

>I never asked you to pyw.
Not you but that's how 99% of all the other threads work.
Say point.
Pyw.
If you dont or you're trash then people say your advice is useless.
With that ideology, why should I listen to someone who has been drawing their whole life about what books I should use to learn how to draw when I'm almost certain they did not use those books themselves? Not to mention that they are not qualified to give advice to begs because of their situation. I keep pointing to the beg threads. They are proof that the sticky is shit and the Loomis and Vilppu shilling on here doesn't work because otherwise people on there would at least be a little bit bad, not complete and utter shit.

I can't be the only one here who thinks this. Maybe I'm just the only one that is tired of seeing Loomis and Vilppu spammed when they are being spammed out of ignorance.

>>5212343
Holy shit are you fucking 11 years old that an extremely small block of words is somehow frying your little fucking fish brain?
You have bigger things to worry about than trying to get your non-existent point across.

>>5212355
you really think nobody has gotten good with Loomis or Vilppu? Not a single person? Every single person who used Loomis/Vilppu was an /int/?

Anon, this is called mental illness.

Hey guys. What perspective course do you recommend more? Marshall, Scott Eaton or one of the NMA courses on it?

>>5212381
The Marshall one is short, the one from NMA never ends. The gnomon workshop has a course too.

>>5212366
>you really think nobody has gotten good with Loomis or Vilppu? Not a single person? Every single person who used Loomis/Vilppu was an /int/?
Dumb fucking argument.
Let's change a small detail to it just to show you how stupid it is.

you really think nobody has gotten good with Mark Crilley? Not a single person? Every single person who used Mark Crilley was an /int/?

So?
Does that make Mark Crilley useful for beginners just because a remnant was able to make use of his books?

>>5183400
can someone seed this again please

>>5212381
The one with Gary Meyer? Yeah that seems good

>>5212188
>The Art and Science of Drawing by Brent Eviston
Downloading. What after that?

>>5212188
Yo, that drawing is fucking rad.

>>5212487
Marshall Vandruff's Perspective Series.

>>5212188
>I stand firm in my belief that Vilppu and Loomis are fucking useless.
Who else for figure and gesture drawing courses, then?

>>5212499
>Marshall Vandruff's Perspective Series.
I tried that one. What irks me is that there were no exercises. I need the hand-holding in the beginning just to see if I'm getting it.

>Mega storage bonus lasts for a limited time.
Bros what happens to my copy if the Gig cap shrinks to a size that can't fit the videos?

>>5212516
Not focusing there yet but Alex Woo was the best I've found so far.
Steve Huston was okay and Michael Hampton was terrible.

>>5212516
Draw 100 boxes in 1PP, 2PP, and 3PP.
Idk.
I literally just drew random boxes with the ideas that he taught and that seemed to work out for me. Or at least make me comfortable in drawing boxes.

>>5181374
Any on clothes? I really need clothing books.
Thanks.

>>5212712
yes ctrl+f look for Liron Yanconsky

>>5212712
https://online-courses.club/anatomy-of-clothing-2019-by-ron-lemen/

>>5212912
How is this website not being taken down?

>>5212437
im willing to bet money that nobody got good with MarkCrilley. And we're talking about popularity of resources. Loomis/Vilppu get recommended a lot for a reason. They're passed around by art instructors as good resources and plenty of good artists swear by them.

But okay, keep nitpicking. You sure are really smart.

>>5212355
>>5212309
how would you recommend people learn to draw anon

>>5212996
You're missing the point the hole time. The other anon was trying to tell you that Loomis/Vilppu don't do much for people who cannot even somewhat-accurately draw a copy of an object that's lying in front of them. He didn't deny that their books/courses can't be useful, just too early material for some people. It's like when you're trying to teach someone algebra when they don't even know how to correctly add/substract/etc.

>>5212996
You're missing the point the hole time regarding Loomis/Vilppu. The other anon was trying to tell you that Loomis/Vilppu don't do much for people who cannot even somewhat-accurately draw a copy of an object that's lying in front of them. He didn't deny that their books/courses can't be useful, just too early material for some people. It's like when you're trying to teach someone algebra when they don't even know how to correctly add/subtract/etc.

>>5213237
>>5213246
Yes. Exactly what I was saying and without all my wordiness.

>>5213202
>1. Make drawing fun.
If you can't do this very first step, all your efforts go to waste as you end up mindlessly grinding with the hope that it'll get fun when you get 'good'. Becauseq that will take years, you WILL become discouraged and demotivated in trying to learn how to draw if you dont first figure out how to make drawing fun for you.
>2. Make drawing a habit.
Steve Huston mentioned at the end of his book that even 10 minutes a day isn't bad as long as you are consistent because you will not stop at 10 minutes a day.
You will bump it up to 20, then 30, then 45, then an hour until before you realise it, you're drawing for as long as you have enough free time.
But it all started with a simple and consistent habit of drawing without missing a single day (which is why the threshold is so low in the beginning as it is very easy to force yourself to sit down for 10 minutes than for 4 hours. The mindset at least.)
>3. Posture.
Self explanatory. Chou-Tac's video course goes over this in explicit detail.
If you fuck up your posture, you will set yourself back. There are tons of stories on here with Anon's who have bad posture who became suicidal because they couldn't draw for a year without excruciating pain. Save yourself the trouble and learn good posture.
>4. Control.
Finally, you can put the pencil or pen on the paper.
This is where I recommend Brent Eviston (Peter Chan is okay but 80% of his course is useless beyond the exercises) as he starts you off with learning control of your tool.
I could go on about this but he should be able to explain better than I could.

I'll stop here.
Nothing here will mention Loomis or Vilppu.
You use them when you are at the stage where you can learn just by copying other artists. Which makes it pretty stupid to recommend just these two when there are a few other good books in the Artbook threads that are better for that, IMO

>>5212991
Because Crabs dont know how to report.

>>5213260
>1
What if I have fun grinding stuff though? I'm not even lying, I have just been going through video courses and then applying what I learn over and over. Absolute beg.
>2
I agree, habits are extremely powerful. I've used them to get exercise, meditate, and read daily for like the past two years, along with some other habits like healthy eating.
>3
I'll look into this. Does Chou-Tac's stuff apply to digital/tablet too or just sketchbook/easel/trad?
>4
I'll look into Brent Eviston. Thanks anon

>>5213260
>>3. Posture.
>Chou-Tac's video course
Is that one in OP's mega link? Maybe I'm just blind, but I can't find it.

>>5213260
Here're all the needles I've been able to pull out of the haystack.
I've gone through probably 200-300 books already and what I've learned is that 99% of them are unhelpful and mostly useless.

>>5213308
If you're completely new at drawing then it's much easier to grind stuff because it's all novel to you. Once the novelty goes away, grinding becomes much more difficult and laborious. Then you'll realize you could have used all of that excitement (or first love) in doing something useful so that by now, you'd be pretty decent rather than only slightly better than people in /beg/. Which isn't much.
Grinding as an absolute beginner is a terrible idea because you don't really even know what you should be grinding in the first place.
Leave that stuff for /int/ artists who already know what to grind and what not to grind.

>>5213331
I just checked.
It's called "Sketch Like the Pros."

>>5213336
The last one is obviously personal so fill it with what your personal goal is.
Also, keep in mind that this is a "beta" version of what I recommend.
I have to really dig deep into these to be absolutely sure.
There may be books in the future that I will remove or add.

>>5213336
Not trying to be annoying here but just to add another preface:
These are all specifically for absolute beginners.
I haven't yet gone through and checked the Video Courses or Books for Figure Drawing.
Once you get to the point where you could learn Figure Drawing though, you wouldn't be considered an Absolute Beginner anymore.
I might make a thread in the future once I've made absolutely sure that these are good and solid (then I could move onto Figure Drawing) but for now I'll just keep it here.

>>5213336
>Books Link
https://mega.nz/folder/qd1ihSgR#Xs9F4-VAurgQa2JYW-vdiA

>>5207211
t. crab

>>5213336
>It's called "Sketch Like the Pros."
Thanks

>>5213336
>Sketch Like the Pros
Is it worth going through that course in general?

>>5181374
>Perspective for Artists - Erik Olson
It's sadly incomplete, does anyone have the rest of the course?

>>5213565
>>925193

>>5181374
Cheers anon.

Is anyone able to mirror the link in the OP for the next month? By that point I'll have my seedbox set up to host it so it can't get DMCAed

>>5213722
>925193
What's that supposed to mean?

How good are Proko's anatomy videos exactly? Is there someone else I should be retrieving first?

>>5215170
https://youtu.be/Thh4JXnVtxM?t=105
-3D Model
-Assignment
-Assignment-Answer(videos)
-Critiques
Best Anatomy Course
but
first learn Perspective and Figure Drawing