/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5207473
>took him 14 years to learn how to photobash a pic of clothing onto a traced outline of a figure
How time flies...

>>5207480
You bitter, bitter crab

>>5207480
Cope.

>>5207480
dont worry you'll die before you even make it

>>5207480
based and industrypilled

>>5207473

Dog this isnt even that good.

>>5207480
Yes, thats how the industry works now. Get with the times old man, it isn't 2001.

>>5207505
P. Y. W.

>>5207473
>>5207480
>>5207485
>>5207488
>>5207493
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>>5207505
>>5207522
>>5207528
pyw

We're all gonna make it lads

>>5207485
These are obviously HEAVILY referenced, if not outright photobashed. There’s nothing that indicates any skill or knowledge here beyond the ability to copy a reference. Do you clap every time Proko does a figure drawing too?

>>5207536
Ask me how I know your work is low level anime. I know you won’t post your work.

>>5207522
You’re right, it is how the industry works. And that’s fine, I have no problem with 3D or photobashing. OP artist didn’t “cheat” or anything. But he did do something that’s boring and not particularly worth being proud of. I’m regularly more impressed by drawings I see posted here on /ic/.

>>5207528

I made this at age fucking 15. What were you doing at age 15? My only limit in my skill is my laziness and procrastination. Because I know I can surpass others if I simply put enough effort into it.

>>5207532
pyw

>>5207544
What sorts of work are you most impressed by? No restriction on style, medium, just, whatever you like.

>>5207480
It's not even photobashed you neanderthal

>>5207544
how i know you're just a beg who cant even draw a cube

>>5207548

AGE 17

not even close to perfection

>>5207562

AGE 19

>>5207562
Nobody cares.
Was shite, still probably just as shite.

>>5207568
pyw shitzo

>>5207567

FUCK ITS SIDEWAYS

AGE 20

>>5207558
Nope

>>5207574
>f12
what a begtard

>>5207574
394 clicks on profile, LMFAO. You so happy that someone big tweeted one of your posts once? Grow up

>>5207568

Either art battle or gtfo

Truly inspirational

>>5207583
better than (you)

>>5207584
(you)

>>5207586
(you)

>>5207574
pyw, i know u won't, but nice shaved butt photos in there

>>5207576
>>5207580
I can confidently say I’m better than you guys and you don’t even have to pyw

>>5207589
>>5207586
>>5207584

PYW

>>5207593
that's what a beg would say

>>5207583

Okay Olay i admit the right image was kinda slacked on but i was simultaneously making THIS CRAB BIATCH!

GET CRABBED ON, GET CRABBED BIATCH!

>>5207593
pyw

>>5207621

https://youtu.be/9N7oSJiKwiQ

>>5207548
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>>5207567
>>5207571
if I may kindly ask, how did you do that cool pencil shading/shadows? is there a particular art book or artist(s) you've learned it from?

>>5207621
What am I looking at

>>5207911
a mirror

>>5207473
>>5207505
>>5207571
I think the point is that you can start drawing late in your life and still learn to make great art. There are many users on this board who worry about starting in their mid-twenties and get depressed for having "wasted" their highschool years on other things, we have threads about it every so often.

>>5207480
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>>5207558
its funny how everyone I have met and seen that are actually good at art don't talk like this and don't talk down like you guys are. If you suck at drawing but you are trying to make up for it by grandstanding at least learn the act as well if you aren't even going to put in the work

>>5207978
pyw or get ass blasted begtard

>>5207981
I am a begtard, my shit sucks but at least I can admit it and I know when other people are talking shit like you are unless you pyw

>>5207987
>>5207780

>Crabbing on bumskee
Based but ngmipilled

>>5207480
>>5207536
The absolute state of /ic/.

>>5207978
Imagine thinking you can't be an asshole and a professional as an adult, grow up kid

>>5207999
imagine pretending to be good at art but you won't even post your work

>>5207950
It's kinda sad that it took an anon to explain this

>>5208002
I never pretended I was god at art, I'm just a construction worker working for assholes, are you retarded? Who the fuck would ever think you can't be good at something and be an asshole or even a criminal for that matter, just look at hollywood ffs

>>5208011

based fellow construction worker

>>5208011
no one said anything about criminals what the fuck are you talking about? its not that great artists can't be assholes its just painfully obvious how much these comments are larping especiallly when they still can't show their work

>>5207989
>>5208026
i did, get ur ass blasted x2 begtard

>>5208033
you are still worse than op lol

>>5208044
op can't even bg and has ben drawing for over a decade, all that while photobashing, but you do you and defend the retard

>>5208046
>tracer talking shit about photobashers

kek

>>5208057
whatever you say retard, i'm not the one without any work to show, neither am the one drawing the boring standing pose after 10 years

>>5208059
I didn't say anything, I am just laughing at you. So have you been tracing for 10 years instead?

>>5208065
op has been

>>5208066
you make no sense, why call out op for tracing when that is what you are doing lol

>>5208068
tracing who

>>5208070
you make me laugh anon haha

>>5208075
/beg/tard was a retard after all, calling anything better than him a tracer, go back to /beg/ and grind your loomis instead of defending OPs beg art

>>5207528
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>>5207624
post your work first before asking other people to post theirs
nobody wants to have to scroll past 7 autists that only know three letters of the alphabet before they some actual work
so either YOU contribute something or shut the fuck up and keep your alphabet soup to yourself

tldr; "pyw" replies must have work included to be considered and not ignored

>>5208078
you got a blog?

>>5208078
Stop wasting time with him, crab's gonna crab your work and defend photobash no matter what you say or how long you say

>>5208079
pyw

>>5208098
fuck off nigger

>>5208083

@min_yum > >>5207780

no contest

>>5208081
yes, but why should i post it here specially when i can be whatever i want to be in here as long as my posts cant track me down
my account is almost always in private either way unless im out of job and need commission money

>this thread
HahahAHahHAHAHa

>>5208117
pyw

>>5208126
you first

>>5207473
14 years for this? Am I going to have to waste a life time to get at this level!? How long to draw good coom, 30 years? I don't think I'm GMI boys

>>5208079

>>5208148
pyw, here is mine
>>5208102

people who are wrong always have to have the last word

>>5208154
You are correct

>>5208154
False

>>5208160
True

>>5208154
I'm wrong, but by being wrong about being wrong I'm

>>5208163
You're correct, but by me being wrong on you being correct you are...

>>5208161
No way

OP is white

>>5208171
Hes korean

>>5208176
>>5208154
Play along

>>5207473
>25 and just started drawing again since I'm neet
bros... anyone else in the same boat?

>>5208180
Yes, but I'm totally correct in this post, totally

>>5208102
>>5208152
liar

>>5208212
that's me

>>5208213
yeah, and I'm Ilya.

>>5208217
do u want the closeup of one of the images?

>>5208223
yes

>>5208231

>>5208223
>>5208235
oh wait I just saw this >>5207473
never mind, sorry for doubting you grandpa :)
I will proceed to kneel, I just started drawing last year after all. But dang, you're twice my age.

>all these crabs that dont know bumskee

>>5208249
pyw or stfu

>>5207536
>These are obviously HEAVILY referenced, if not outright photobashed.

1. Every good artist references

2. That's clearly not photobashed and you have no idea what the fuck photobashing looks like.

>>5207473
based I agree with you, OP.
/ic/ has no power me, /ic/ can't control me. Nothing these crab demons say can stop me from making it. I am absolute, I am stronger than /ic/.

>>5208152
?

>>5208249
I don't care who he is. Based on the OP image, he's Generic Realistic Fantasy Painter #787346 and his work has no value to me.

>>5207473
>38
>that profile pic
its time to grow up

>>5208403
What's wrong with it?

>>5208405
it looks very juvenile, something that a 14 year old would think looks cool

>>5208410
If it were in anime style I would think the same. I think I forgive it because it's pretty typical of his or her work, judging by the right piece at least. I think plenty of artists do that, and it makes sense.

>>5208403

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>>5208249
It's a shame.

>>5207473
>>5207480

>This is for Crabs who don't know who Bumskee is.

Bumskee is an artist who got famous during the golden age of conceptart.org for showing his progression over the years in his sketchbook thread from being /beg/ level like in the left OP pic to professional level. Pic related is one of his most well known paintings. When his sketchbook thread still existed you could see all the studies and shit he did over the years to reach that level.

https://web.archive.org/web/20071011013626/http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46487

Here's an small archive of the thread. Sadly the majority of the sketchbook threads are lost to time forever. It's a complete shame that no one bothered to do a complete archive of conceptart.org before it went offline.

This was a great way to see the realistic progression artists took from /beg/ to /pro/. Not that retarded "ASIAN JEANS" bullshit.

There will never be and can never be a community like conceptart ever again in the age of modern social media. /ic/ is the closest thing left of it unfortunately.

>>5208521
we have to go back

>>5207473
>38
>lifes work is a bunch of floating figures and glorified landscape studies
do boomies really...

>>5207480
Man this board is toxic shit

>>5207571
Actually based nice gains anon

>>5208079
Pyw

>>5208521
Imma stand a pose hehee

>>5207536
Copium.

>>5207536
>this artist learned to better utilize resources available to them
>that obviously means he didn't improve at all
>heehee ebic gotteeeeem

>>5207480
>>5207536
cringe but based

>>5207473
I don't know what to think. At least he is doing more than 90% of /ic/

i fucking hate this board

>>5209029
Ask me how I know that you're ngmi

Damn I'm always down because I'm starting at the age of 22 for then some shitter fuck up that small feeling of hope by sharing how he started drawing when he was 15.

>>5209207
i'm half your age and twice the artist you are

>>5209222
pyw

New thread, same shitposts. Who cares if you pyw or gmi or ngmi, you're all fucking boring and no one will ever care about you.

>>5209007
I wonder if anyone on /ic/ managed to make it into the CA.org "banner of fame"? There's a lot of well known artists who got their start due to conceptart.org like Sinix, Dave Rapoza, Miles Johnston.

>Dave Rapoza's sketchbook thread

https://web.archive.org/web/20100923134732/http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67096

>Miles Johnston Sketchbook thread

https://web.archive.org/web/20120707085621/http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=97046

There will never be another art website with this type of healthy competitive environment were you get free critiques directly from professional artists ever again. Now you're just one of the thousands of followers of the artist on social media or their discord competing for attention.

I think I just miss the more "cozy and intimate" forum/deviantart/blogspot websites of the old web 1.0 internet instead of the modern corporate "everything looks the same" web 3.0

>>5207548
>Because I know I can surpass others if I simply put enough effort into it.
terrible attitude. you reached your peak way to early and now you'll basically die a loser

>>5208143
chances are he got to that level after 3 years

>>5207480
LOL gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8 I’m ir8

Keep seething, thanks for all the (You)s, sorry I don’t worship your generic fantasy painter internet friend.

>>5209821
He did, he was already working on card illustrations for Wizards in 2008

>>5209889
>>5209887
Mondead is my favorite group of artists rn, I usually don’t like Korean style but Wan Young Yun and Doo-Chun have a different approach than most Koreans, although they can work in the typical Korean style like bumskee.

>>5208301
Are you ok

>>5208180
I am 18, turning 19, I am in a similar boat to you

>>5207536
>he didn't just close his eyes and create the references with his imagination

>>5209893
Wikipedia only says he’s been doing MTG since 2011, and likewise I can’t find anything he did for Wizards prior to that. Got any of his older stuff?

>>5209966
no you are not you have 7 years on him. fucking zoomer start grinding now and you will be an art god

>>5209984
>he’s been doing MTG since 2011
You're right I might have been misremembering, his 2008 stuff was already pretty decent though.

>>5209868
You worship same face moe shit instead, but that was expected.

>>5207480
>photobash
Do you faggots actually not understand what photobashing is?

>>5209887
>>5209889
/beg/s crying tracer and photobasher btfo

>>5210057
Where do you think you are?

>>5209887
Male face female body

>>5207780
this guy must be seething haha

>>5207562
All this needs is better darks (use ink).

>>5209887
Lost all soul on 4th

>>5209459
>There will never be another art website with this type of healthy competitive environment were you get free critiques directly from professional artists ever again. Now you're just one of the thousands of followers of the artist on social media or their discord competing for attention.
Maybe not but there's small groups that are on the same trajectory

>>5208180
>drew for years
>no good art friends who gave a shit to see you improve
>25 and just learning shit i should have known already
>only seeing improvement now but still feels impossible that i could
yeah i'd saya bout so

>>5207950

It doesnt matter how old you are, what IS unfair is natural, raw talent. Its also the beauty of it all. I get to be 6 feet tall with an upside down triangle build while also having 20% scoliosis spine curve and 20/100 vision. I could have been a chad, but I chose the way of the pencil.

I regret every day of my decision.

>>5210496

I did this today in 30 minutes without ref btw

>>5210496
>what IS unfair is natural, raw talent
talent having access to better resources

>>5208242
lmao i have studied these exact pictures

>>5207473
>People ITT think he did the clothing by hand
Kek

>>5210804

Im self taught. I work at dairy queen and buy all of my material, the only reason im in college is because i got in on scholarship.

>>5209889
/Beg/ here. What is the point of 2? The red layer?

>>5212242

Its to simulate the cool aid man effect, its a real technique look it up.

>>5212242
It's a mask. You use a color like red so it stands out. Then you fill it in without risk of going off the borders.

>>5212227
>Im self taught
It shows

>>5212313

Cant tell if thats an insult but pyw

>>5212316
How about you post a finished piece faggot

>>5212322

Youll be able to identify me and thats a nono, dont avoid the subject im challenging you to an art duel rn since i have free time.

>>5212324
I've never drawn in my life

>>5212330

Well, at least your honest.

I respect that.

>>5207574
> 752k impressions ... 6k likes

oh anon... your art must be boring as hell

>>5212324
your work is painful to look at. in a bad way. no im not going to post my work because you will recognize me and thats a no no.

>>5212603

You dont have to post your work, you can make a 15 minute sketch rn and ill time myself for 15 min the moment its sent, in that period of time ill redraw what you drew and make it better than you.

PYW is bullshit, this is an art battle im challenging you to rn.

>>5212605

Ill even give you a five minute grace period to read this.

>>5207473
>Be me
>spend the last 15 years practicing art
>post on social media comparison of my worst art from back then and my most recent work
>ill wait for the internet points XD
>5 days has passed
>cant reach 10k likes
>"this people just envy my talent"
>decide to post in other places, maybe i can get more track
>/ic/
>pretending to be a random anon
>samefaging hard lole
>people start calling me for having boring art that is bellow koreans on artstation
>cant handle it
>start replying to anyone who talk shit about my art
>move to other threads to try to derrail them into my thread or directly talking about my art
>they still saying my art is shit
>call them crabs, PYW, bitter because they are worst than me
>laugh hard
>"oi grandpa, can you please calm down, you are scaring me" says my grandchild
>i remember i had to do something
>forgot to put my adult diaper before using the internet
>mfw i shit myself while showing kids who is the most based artist

>>5212581
>bumskee himself made this thread

Pretty pathetic t b h

>>5212605

I got tired of waiting for the guy to respond to my challenge so i did a sketch in 15 min anyways.

>>5212637

FUCK WHY DOES MY PHONE MAKE EVERYTHING SIDEWAYS.

>>5212640
>>5212637

Fixed it.

Also while im here may as well address >>5208079

I think im better than you, and ive posted my work, I also use 4chan art battles as a way to practice, so would you be willing to have a 15 minute sketch battle with me? You can only hope to benefit yourself from doing this unless you think pride is an issue. Since i already did a 15 min sketch, ill let you post the next one. When that happens ill time myself for 15 min again the moment i see it and start my next drawing.

>>5212652

Bruh i forgot to attach the image lmao

>>5212656
Boy howdy does no one give a shit.

>>5212658

You made a comment so i guess you do! FIGHT ME!!!

>>5207571
you fucking suck lol

>>5207902

Self taught sorry i didn't see your reply. I reccomend using a 0.5 mechanical pencil on Stonehenge paper, as well as a 6B on the side for darker values.

Thanks >>5212674 for calling me back to that post so i can find them.

>see my horrible unpostable shit from 2015
>thank god I'm better now, maybe I can make a post here to show my progress
>look at current art
>wait a minute this is all horrible unpostable shit too

>>5207473
14 years?? jesus you should be able to do the right one when you're in your mid twenties. But if you start late then I guess this is what's going to happen

>>5207548
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>>5212656

You're pretty good compared to me anon. How old are you now? I'm in my mid twenties and looking back, you work looks better than mine when I was your age. I'm currently working as a freelance concept artist

bumskee was at the level of the right picture 10 years ago, i know, i still have his brushes from then

wats a crab?

its better to have sucked and gotten better than to have never sucked at all

>>5212656
are you happy? Did you reach your goal of crushing random anons in "sketch battles"? I can't believe that is even a thing.

I'm serious, are you satisfied with yourself? You seem to think art is about being good and showing off

>>5207548
>I can surpass others if I simply put enough effort into it
thats true for everybody who is not old / sick

~~test~~ test^test

>>5207563
post the original bro

>>5207480
there's nothing wrong with photobashing and tracing you mong, tools are tools. wait until you hear even fantasy painters arrange models and photograph them first or use 3d.

>>5207583
Mechanical pencil or wooden pencil?

>>5207583
I seriously hate this kind of shit. It just screams “stoner who thinks he’s really deep and creative but he’s actually retarded and not creative at all.” I knew a lot of people in college who would make stuff like this, or stuff like those awful abstract spiral patterns.

>>5212656
where the colors doe

>>5207480

>>5212652
Gesture battle me irl not online and see what happens

>>5218129
seethe

>>5218129
Jelly

>>5209887
>>5209889
OP actually being right makes me happy guys :) im already beyond OPs starting pic

Here is my 6 y progress. Could've done better if I didn't spend so much time on vidyas

holy shit this board is filled with underage, bitter retards. Bumskee is a legend, I still use part of their 10 year old brush set.

>>5207480
retard

>>5220527
>this board is filled with underage, bitter retards
yes

>>5220264
blog?

>>5207473
just draw

>>5220264
nice work Anon, keep it up :3

>>5207562
>>5207548
yeah but you sound like an obnoxious faggot so nobody will like you

>>5218129
i dont think his stuff is overly interesting but you probably just draw anime bust vanity shit post your work or else his is more unique

>>5207480
pyw