/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5203048
You would waste time with TV, books, movies, drugs, women, gaming, beer, bar fights, family, etc. instead

>>5203048
Sloth

>>5203051
These things are not equally addictive. Stop pretending they are.

>>5203048
Twitter

>>5203048
It's all about getting better at time management

>>5203048
It's good that you're noticing your problems, now you can fix them. Go find something to read or a pdf online to spend your time instead. Recommend 1984 and Industrial Society and it's Future.

>>5203051
>wasting time
>family
cringe

Talent.

>>5203082
my kid likes to post dogs on 4chan, he is a disappointment but a dad gotta dad

>>5203048
I have the attention span of a goldfish and the motivation of a sloth.

You got meme'd by retards here who keep shilling stupid cringe 8 hour regimens just to troll newfags. You're not supposed to fucking spend all your day drawing. Hell, I can't even play vidya more than 2 hours once. You should limit your art exercise (fundies) to 3-4 hours a day. If you made it and are drawing for the sake of it, then use those hours accordingly, but don't fuck up your brain with it. Do breaks, start working out, reading, listening to music. Hell, even staying on 4chan is bound to be educative if you pick your boards. Even gaming is ok in small intervals. So as long as you do 4 hours of your hobby you have a lot of time to pursue a secondary career or work part time to sustain yourself because you're poor.

>>5203188
terrible advice

>>5203188
imagine not drawing 16h

>>5203048
I just can't seem to summon the energy needed to improve.

I can draw just fine, but if I try to draw something with effort to improve my skills/leave my comfort zone, I just get so tired and don't bother.

I don't know why it's so hard to put forth the extra brain power needed to push myself and improve

>>5203213
>>5203221
well mem'd my friend, but you can "downvote" me some later time you fucking redditor samefag

>>5203227
you really think you don't need to work that much to make it into the industry huh

>>5203227
dont be so sensitive. Learn to sit down and draw for a full work-day. 8 hrs of drawing isn't too hard.

Chronic pain.
I hate all of you retarded lazy faggots who are in good health but still manage to find an excuse to be perma/beg/s.

>>5203048
A lifetime of boring, easy school and videogames gave me peanut tier discipline
That paired with the fact that I abhor not getting good result fast, hindered my endeavors quit a bit
I've been getting better though, I'm beating the lazy out of me

>>5203048
I have no reason and no goal with my art.
I don't even have a reason to be alive.

>>5203235

sip some sizzurp my nig, thats what i did

buy a mini trampoline, that's your exercise.

buy a ring makeup light (like that russian guy who draws rings in all his eyes)
and do self portraits to boost your self esteems

uhh what else, get a wageslave job for fun, but don't linger on it cuz youll get depressed.

then save up said money and go be a massage therapist like me! its awesome i get to massage qt azns and learn anatomy !

how do I stop wasting all my time on the internet? Pls don’t say just stop because clearly that doesn’t work I just relapse eventually and end up using it even more than before

>>5203343
Get hooked on a project
Don't draw for the sake of improving, that's a goal so abstract it may as well not exist. get fucking started on a comic, on a series of illustrations you want to make (like that guy who illustrated a pantheon of angels, or illustrating the zodiacs, I don't know, whatever you like). It'll give you a reason to wake up and sit down to draw over spending time on the Internet.

>>5203343
>get into vicious internet arguments
>get traumatized
>don't go on internet anymore

>>5203235
I'm lazy, I don't have any excuses.

>>5203332
ok faggot attention whore

>>5203235
I have motor skill issues but keep at it every day. My lines will probably never be at a level I'm actually happy with but there's more to drawing than precise lines.

Posting shit on social media then feeling like crap about stuff i am trying to improve on since i still get 0 engagement.

I really gotta stop posting and only draw for myself at this point.

>>5203400
Drop the name and curb your attention whore habits. I mean this with no ill will. The sooner you stop relying on others for validation the more you can focus.

>>5203048
>having fun drawing
>reptilian brain questions what's even the point of me learning and honing a useless skill that I will never get to the point where I can be paid for it
>know that the only career paths are working for soulless corporate art, to be overworked on a vidya company for peanuts, or even worse, depend on degenerate furrfags to commission art that features fetishes that would drive any sane person to a constant state of madness.

I've come to the conclusion I should treat learning how to draw as an entertainment, but I just can't get back that honeymoon drive to learn I once got, I put less and less time every week, and I feel like I'm regressing rather than progressing.

>>5203048
Not having the hability to focus for more than 2 hours.However I've heard that working out helps to improve that so I consider to do it.
But the biggest thing I miss is this ability to be so focused that I'm pretty much just drawing without paying attention to what I do,it's a strange but great feeling where even if you're not thinking that much,your movements still coherent and the drawing process goes smoothly.I think it's called "zone" or something like that.

>>5203492
This.
And the ultimate choice is to either submit to this shitty industry and go insane or become just another slave of society and forget drawing.
To be honest, i personally would wanna go the coom route (because it's obvious that's the only realistic choice if you want to make a living off your work without huge sacrifices), but i don't have any weird fetishes and i'm too self-conscious.
Best i can and willing to do right now is anime grills on blank background and i'm not even good at it.

>>5203343
You need to get internet raped!
Post all of your work here, we'll rape all over it until you're too afraid to comeback!

>>5203665
Honestly I already did that. The advice I got was complete bullshit. It was some smug anon giving me retard level beg advice about things anyone who’s ever picked up a pencil should understand. It’s always that or no response because this site is full of beglets

>>5203063
>drugs, gaming and beer
>not addictive
kys

>>5204392
lol maybe addictive if you’re a retarded npc

>>5204397
watch out everybody, we have a 3 million IQ ubermench here

>>5203048
Looking at Instagram, realizing I’ll never be good enough for people to like me, realizing that illustration is a solved game and anything I could draw has been done 100 times better by more than a hundred people, and then just sort of browsing 4chan and playing Monster hunter the entire day. I still sketch nightly and in the morning

It’s kind of comfy to start giving up after 5 years. No more deluding myself into thinking “I’ll be that good one day!”

>>5204398
Are you implying that I’m not superior to you, a drug addict beer drinking slob who can’t stop gaming? I’m not an ubermensch, you’re just below average

>>5204408
You're gunna hit your 30s saying that you regret it, Jason.

>>5204408
Do you understand that the content consoomer machine functions solely because people keep doing the same shit over and over again at varying levels of quality? You will never be best in the world at anything, not even close. You will likely not even be in the top million. But neither will EVERYONE else that makes up the entire machine. It is what it is anon, you’re free to join in if you want. It’s also not mandatory. Do what you want bro

>>5203048
people here will never progress unironically because of mental illness

>>5203048
If you live your life on auto, you'll stoop to the level of your habits.

With the internet always nearby, in our pockets when we take a walk and on our screens when we get home, we are- quite involuntarily- getting bombarded by heaps of information, and we're inclined to react to most of anything that comes to our attention. Do you really feel in control when you're just spending your days reacting to a constant stream of information? Isn't it tiring?

Don't get me wrong, changing your habits is hard. I'm here too. Having a plan to "get rid of an addiction" stacks the cards against you, you brand yourself with the addiction like you have some chronic illness. Getting a final reprieve from social media is wishful thinking.

But stepping away for just the moment is quite a lot easier.

Whenever you try to step away from your habits, you're bound to feel some resistance. If you feel that resistance, try to just observe it. It's just a feeling- you don't have to act on it. If you focus on how that feeling presents itself in the body, you'll realize that it's just a signal the body sends you, and it doesn't need to represent you as the one who controls what you do.

Returning to the moment in this way is a good habit to have. It teaches us to be more deliberate with what we do, and to me personally, helps me execute my goals.

Again, thinking we can just go cold turkey on all our bad habits is wishful thinking. But there are tools for actual change available to us in every moment.

>>5204450
Based and stoicpilled

>>5203188
Actual good post

>>5203232
>>5203233
post your work
clearly you don't have any since you're here posting about how important it is to draw 50 hours a day instead of actually drawing

>>5204450
Based but you type like an infomercial
>do you feel out of control? Like you can’t handle the constant streams of information the modern man faces in his day to day life? We all lose control once in a while, but now you don’t have to, with all new LifeControl Pro! Take back control today

>>5204470
found the american

if you keep procrastinating maybe it's a sign you should do something else honestly

>>5204409
i'm mocking you, my autistic friend, because no one is immune to addictive activities or substances.
kys

>>5203048
the threat of other people I know IRL being better than me

>>5204593
> I literally can’t stop gaming
>ur retarded not me

As for drugs, just don’t do heroin then you fucking retard, and if you can’t stop drinking beer your problem isn’t addiction it’s a complete and utter lack of impulse control. I drink sometimes, I’ve done my solid fair share of hard drugs too. I’m not a drug addict, I wouldn’t care if I never touched drugs or drink again. I used to smoke a pack a day, then I just stopped because I wanted to. Haven’t smoked in 5 years. I play games like once a month. Same feeling. Get some basic control over your actions and stop blaming addiction

>>5204604

>>5203048
My extremely low energy. I can literally only focus two-three hours a day top, and that’s on a good day - on a bad day I will have the strength and mental faculties of a crippled infant for hours on end. Even if I try to force myself to draw on such an occasion, my arm is still so weak that I miss 9/10 lines I try to make. This apparently runs in the family and there’s nothing I can do - currently trying to alleviate it somewhat with exercise/weightlifting, but it’s such a fucking uphill battle that some days I just want to give up and rot.

>>5204608
Dilate tranny

>>5203048
my gf. don’t get a gf bros I’m serious. Don’t move in with them, at least

>>5203048
Unironically my autism

>>5204466
kindly fuck off
https://securesha.re?#u=9b2d04f065471e9bcabe455c0bdd39e6.bin&p=sc0iS41EnkgooHAcr7n8viHF7VIhybpm-oT_pVvpow8

>>5204470
Yeah, sometimes when I'm writing I can't stop myself and it becomes a little pretentious. Don't need to buy anything for what I'm prescribing though

>>5204645
I'm not clicking that retard, why not upload your art here like a man?

>>5204769
It's just a single time file sharing site that deletes the upload once someone downloads it, nothing harmful.
It's down now since one person(me) downloaded it, but I'll put it here. See pic related

>>5204772
>he delivered
Nice. Not the most amazing art I've seen but you have potential, keep it up.

>>5204772
that's probably text that's censored on the forest floor but lmao

>>5204774
>he delivered
He didn't, I'm not >>5204645 lol. Just a lurker that happened to click the link.

>>5204781
What a pussy lol

Testing does this work guys?
https://securesha.re?#u=98cb0879b76a902bd7332b14c594725a.bin&p=8vg0l0kw0HeWcQMmEvy7D6t8bG1eNo3PGhqzAcQfHRI
What can you all see?

>>5204785
A guy licking the ass of a bird with boobs, drawn using one of those template memes.

>>5204792
Niiiiiice

>>5204785
https://securesha.re?#u=411465d21ba95cab74067964cb0f63df.bin&p=7FlwXzgnDQA9qDEP4P7yIHnhgGcZOcILyPdDhdLjWp0

>>5204796
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CUNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYY

>>5204635
yeah most women are huge distractions/investments of time if you can't set boundaries. my ex gf broke up with me because i said i wouldn't move in with her, i sometimes regret that i didnt even consider it but sometimes i feel like i dodged a bullet because the last girl i moved in with it turned into an absolute nightmare
because many women don't accept that you have to devote time to yourself. they see you dedicating time away from entertaining them as you neglecting them, and they will go elsewhere to get it either by cheating on you or just using it as a reason to break up with you and completely fuck you over
my experience has been women usually try to pressure you into moving in with them so they can get you to pay their bills while forcing you to give them attention 24/7
on the other hand my ex would let me draw her nude before we had sex sometimes and it would get her extremely horny. so just be aware of the traps and don't let them run your life and be gains goblins

>>5204825
why are you dating people then, idiot

>>5204450
Most based post on this board

>>5203048
>What keeps you personally from progressing?
Have most of my life struggled with chickenscratching or trying to perfect 'imperfect' lines, which leads to quite messy drawings (trad fag). Getting better about it, but need to be quite conscious or else I slip into bad habits.

>>5203188
The biggest brain move is to do your drawing before bed so you get to sleep on it.

>>5204968
What got me out of this habit was doing some of Peter Han's exercises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaif0PpNMas
Maybe it could work for you aswell? I hope you improve as much as you want to, anon

>>5204772
Is this the power of working 8 hours a day, my fucking sides, you clearly don't have asian genes, don't even bother with art, you won't make it

>>5203492
Make a comic lmao

>>5203048
A lifetime of bullying, gaslighting, ridicule, violence and humiliation from my father. I know what happened and I've processed and overcome it to an extent, but it still seems to make me self-sabotage, undercharge for my work and in general underearn to a catastrophic degree.

>>5203048
I'm lazy and don't really practice, and now that I went full digital I'm even lazier

>>5203048
this fucking website
i wish my brain would have the memory of this website completely sapped so that i had no choice but to work on my art
instead i'm here all day wondering why i haven't improved after a year yet 99% of my time is spent shitposting and 1% of the time i don't feel like drawing
>so you're blaming your problems on someone else
yes
>ngmi
no

you see, i can actually make it despite being shit. that's what you idiots don't understand.
you don't understand that i have found true love.
love goes beyond any ability to make it.
there is no lack when there is love because it is everything.
love turns to desire which turns to passion which turns a fucking burning fury inside of you that melts you apart and rips at your throat until you HAVE to fucking do something.

i am a fool.
i have forgotten my goal, my reason to live.
i remember now.
my love, my life.
for you i will draw 10000 Loomis heads just for you to glance at my direction.
i might still be /beg/ but it would have been worth it.

i'm going to go draw now.

I’ve got cubital tunnel and tendonitis, y’all fags are lucky as shit I can only manage a few hours a day

>>5205817
you're here forever.

>>5203235
I have awful chronic pain, zero drugs to treat it, and I still draw every day. Way to use it as an excuse.

>>5203048
I never understand this. Don't you feel frustrated that you aren't able to do the things you want to do? Even when I was learning and hitting walls hard to a point I felt lost I atleast kept trying. I felt like I never had time to waste and only took breaks to think things out better. Eventually I reached the level I was happy with.

Do people really just give up and not try?

>>5203048

i keep creating/drawing my own characters and universe, this is why i need to be forced into an art school so i can get shit done

>>5203048
A complete and utter lack of comprehension. I'm honestly not sure I understand drawing as a concept. My practice and research has only led to me becoming more confused over time.

ADHD

>>5206297
Who says that I don't draw? OP talked about what's keeping you from progressing, not what's keeping you from drawing.
I draw every day as well but my learning is impaired by having 24/7 migraines.

It's easy to draw garbage every day. Much harder to learn new things and improve with a distraction like this though.

>>5204944
lmaoooo
this is exactly my thoughts
if you want to focus time on your art, why the fuck are you getting gfs?
that makes absolutely no fucking sense
OP doesn't even want a gf, he wants a fuck-buddy
someone who he could fuck and then tell them to fuck off while he draws his furry commissions

>>5203048
me

i probably have adhd

ITT: 101 excuses for lack of discipline

>>5209499
jus discipline brah

>>5203048
Suicidal thoughts. I have lost hope. I still draw all the time but I don't try anymore. I just think "why bother". I don't believe in a future or have any ambition left. I'm just exhausted. All that keeps me going in a few responsibilities. I probably wouldn't draw if I didn't have paint and pencils to waste.

>>5209695
this, unironically

>>5205427
damn, are you me

Nothing, that's why I'm progressing.

>>5203048
While I enjoy drawing I don't actually have anything I want to do with it.