/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I am trying to understand how is bunnygirl formed. Did I miss any simple shapes I can break her body down into? Do I missunderstand some of the angles her bodyparts are sitting at?

i worked through drawing on the right side of the brain and it did nothing for me. what do?

>>5194205
I struggled a lot because I got into drawing with a poor mindset. It doesn't bother me that it took years to get here, since I know I've got many years left to improve.

Would you consider this kemono or western furry?

>>5194478
Well boobs are not perfect circles, ever. The circle on the right side hip (her left) you circled inside the red outfit while on the other side you circled right before the red outfit so the one on the right is larger so they are not equal in size. Fix that and then finish the drawing and adjust it afterwards. Remember to use the art part of your brain, not the math side that measures if a copied thing matches because that art of the brain sucks at math. Calm fast confident stokes and stop and start over if you find yourself trying to hard to get things right. Rely on your subconscious to do the math of it looks equal and erase and redraw a line till it looks right. You need to train your subconscious to do the higher math. Tap into the same math ability sports stars use to accurately calculate trajectory, speed, and impact of a ball in a millisecond.

>>5194488
draw a box

>>5194583
furry

>>5194583
Western because it looks like a westerner added bits of the anime style.

>>5194624
Mistyped and meant the math part of the brain sucks at art.

>>5194462
remember begs, a good story written with bad calligraphy still a good story.

>>5194626
Don't.

>>5194583
Furry with some bits of Kemono

Tried to go outside my comfort zone with angles and poses. Made a lot of mistakes and took a long ass time. I think I got it to turn out alright but theres still a bunch of mistakes I made and left.

Gonna grind some michael hampton heads to solidify my head construction knowledge. That killed me the most

FINALLY done with this one, despite starting the head from scatch in the end I couldn't get likeness

>>5194624
thanks anon

>>5194624
ah, I see what you mean now. I couldn't quite picture how much they overlapped in 3d space.

>>5194583
There's a difference ? I always thought they went with "kemono" to spare them the trouble of trying to romanize furry without everyone fucking it up differently

>>5194791
>>5194583
"Kemono" is just japanese for "beast/furry"
Just like "anime" is japanese for "animation"

Jap artists don't make a difference but we do
If you wanna draw kemono, you must learn to draw anime

>>5194863
Soulful
Now give them body, don't stay in the floating anime head limbo. Break your limits

>>5194931
This is a super Nice Lucy, anon. Clean linework, gg

>>5194939
i like drawing floating anime heads. its not fair to call it a limbo. i'd be happy to draw floating shoulder-up people for the rest of my life. its cute. i'm not here to smash art barriers and boundaries, and invent something new and crazy. i'm just doing my own little thing

kek

Trying to learn some machinery
Not very pleased, but let's just say it's my first one. Did the colors in 30 seconds

>>5194931
Top looks bad. Is it supposed to have a penis or not?

>>5194969
Whatever you want since it's a drawing

>>5194976
Well, it looks like it has a penis, and I don't like that, so fix it, I guess?

>>5194931
Blog?

>>5194931
>>5194976
where is the penis i know you have the penis stop hiding the penis from me
pelase

>>5194956
Fair anon, but why are you here then?
It's a thread to become better at art and get advice/critique, if you simply want to share your drawings there is the stylization thread, twitter and reddit.
You *will* stagnate if you just do heads, that's all.
Do what you must with it, you won't smash any barrier drawing a body, we've done that for thousands of years

>>5194997
On twitter @KatsuneiSenpai

>>5194583
>Would you consider this kemono or western furry?
Would you consider uploading the uncensored one? (catbox.moe or one of the other image hoster)
To answer your question: looks western

>>5194799
Pic source? Those are some neat tits.

>>5195013
Amakuchi
https://u18ch*n.com/fur/topic/1101729

Guy is the king of 90s-style Kemono

>>5195006
I still want to improve. Im trying to improve at drawing floating heads and looking feedback for drawing better floating heads. I simply disagree with the conventional wisdom on /ic/ that states it is necessary to draw hands and bodies and all these things in 3d space in order to get better at drawing jaw lines and planes of the face. It doesn't make sense. I have an itemized list of things I want to improve at, and I want to focus one at a time. When I feel like Ive reached a certain point, Im okay with moving on. But this is my focus for the time being.

>>5195026
based and gmi-pilled

>>5195022
Thanks

I did a quick sketch before bed.
It is a... dwarf miner...? Space miner?
Anyway, thank you for you feedbacks, if you have any.

>>5195026
Draw atleast something else than only heads. Maybe frogs. Frogs are cute. Frogs say groaaaaaaag. Frogs are complicated but you can simplify them a lot. Thats the same as faces. If you just draw heads you will stagnate. Draw frogs also and you will gmi. Draw only heads and you will ngmi.

Frogs are based and cute.

>>5195046
dumb frogposter

>>5195026
>It doesn't make sense.
It does. It's like learning to drive and saying "I want to be sure I move the wheel correctly before I get on the road... Driving won't make me better at turning the wheel"
It's a mentality seen everywhere, from sports, to love life, to art. You'll spend months waiting for the "right moment" but it will never come. Like that dude in /asg/ who's been drawing sketch dolls for a year and never got better

Here's an advice for your heads :
Draw them at different angles, don't get stuck on the 3/4 profile view

>>5195048
groaaaaaaag

>>5195050
Just leave him be tbqh. People wanna stay in their comfort zone so let em

>>5195050
Even if stagnation occurs, it's a temporary state. But I am unhappy with my ability to draw floating heads and I want to improve at drawing them.
>>5195057
Floating heads are not my comfort zone at all. I think int artists project onto beginner artists and quickly forget what its like to have 1/10 of the experience they have now.

>>5195074
Everyone itt is /beg/

>>5195074
Well, good luck then anon. I hope your method works. Don't give up

>>5195074
You can only improve your floating heads by deepening your understanding of forms, and deepening your understanding of forms requires, much to your dismay, drawing a variety of forms.

What videos will help me understand gesture drawing

>>5195046
>>5195055
wtf i love frogs now

>>5195090
>much to your dismay,
It's simply to my disbelief and incredulity. I'm not in dismay. You are being so dramatic. I can post drawings I made 3 months ago before I started drawing lots of floating heads you'd see how disgusting they were. I've seen improvment with my actions, so I'm continuing them. Sorry if that bothers you , unironically

>>5195113
Top right is physically impossible.

>>5195121
You can't make a fist?

>>5195123
I can, but not with my thumb like that. Neither can you.

>>5195091

torrent the proko figure drawing course

>>5195128
Shoulda said the thumb was off in the first place.

>>5195132
I shouldn't have to.

>>5195132
doesn't take that long to copy the pose yourself and see how it's fucked up desu

>>5195113
lmao

>>5195138
It's a beginner thread, we're going to get tunnel vision when drawing for several hours a day
>>5195139
See above

>>5195145
Then take a break and come back to it. Ngmi if you need everything spelled out.

>>5195146
I’ll make it whatever you may think.

>>5195097
fellow beg here, saw alot of artists doing the same thing as you did ie not connecting the lines. Why?

>>5195150
qt nail polish UwU

>>5195157
looks better and easier to do since i can't fuck up the lines if i don't draw them

>>5195120
Right, so you were drawing forms you were unfamiliar with and you managed to improve, and you're rejecting the advice you should continue to draw forms you're unfamiliar with to further improve?

>>5195150
even with a ref you still fucked up and yet you can't still see it? literally ngmi

wow, the draw the races portion of loomis's book is kinda shocking...

>>5195120
Can you post them anon?

First time ever drawing on a tablet

>>5195160
holy shit that simplifies everything so much. Thank you

is this alright, i changed the pelvis angle on the left pic

>>5194702
I like your lines

forgot to rezise

>>5194956
still you could try some different expressions.

>>5195057
>People wanna stay in their comfort zone so let em
How do I NOT stay in my comfort zone?

>>5195216
Draw something you don't want to / Think will be difficult.

>Watching Vilppu's NMA round forms lecture
>"it is all round forms, Lachaise was a sculptor, look at all that round, beautiful"
>round
>roundness
Boner but also very useful for future reference.

I've been doing loomis heads when I'm bored with draw a box, and just can't figure out what's wrong with them. I normally notice the chins look fucking stupid but I'm not sure what stage im going astray. I've took a bit of time to draw 4 of them from slightly different angles, is it obvious where I'm going wrong?

>>5194478
You went with contours+perspective for some reason.
Don't copy the model, analyze it. Go gesture + forms first.
Doesn't help that the skin is airbrushed to hell, the corset wedgie fucks with your understanding of anatomy(pelvis doesn't go that high).
NGMI myself but here's my take on it.

>>5195216
getting too far from you comfort zone is also bad, you need balance.

how do i paint hair or hands

>>5194583
Western furry as fug, if you want a “kemono” look, it must be more “anime-ish”, with a grain of chibi on the top

>>5195204
Thanks even if I’m not sure why
I also found art of mine two months after I started drawing, March of 2019. Quite derpy

I can't fucking interpret scale or angles properly. My brain is completely fucked.

>>5195157
Why bother? You've suggested the form, the viewer can figure it out.

>>5195206
This looks cool.

quick aggie

>>5195243
The perspective's fucked.
Try drawing a box around your loomis head. You can't, because the planes aren't consistent.

>Another day where I do jack shit because my friends abduct me to play party games and enjoy my day.

fugg

Is Marc Brunet's course good?

>>5195505
Cool vent

Is this still true, fellas?

>>5195542
>>5195570
Cool off topic crap

Quick judge dredd sketch

>>5195669
Achilles

>>5195697
oh no motherfucker you're going the wrong way

Posting finished piece with simple bg

Went out ok?

>>5195697
love this artist. draws such cute feet.

>>5195697
Why are you posting a random artists progress in the beginner thread

>>5195727
Added kind of low effort-improvised background
It kinda fucks with the perspective of bg and character, i know :(

>>5195730
i want to draw like them.

>>5195734
Post your current work

well...
it still looks like shit, but at least in a different way

>>5195736

>>5195727
too much detail on the leg, mouth looks like a sticker aside from that it is pretty good

>>5195256
Hey, that is pretty good!
You are right, I will try to understand the forms/ anatomies of the body before I attempt again. Are Riley rhythms the standard way of applying gesture to humans?

>>5195740
Keep up the work, be sure to read the sticky. How long have you been drawing for?

I'm completely new to drawing so any advice or exercises on how I can improve would be greatly appreciated.

>>5195755
Drawabox has a nice lesson on how to construct animals. I suck so I can not critique your work further.

>>5194583
Lmao, here's a traditional piece. What about this one?

>>5195763
you really captured the western weaboo style

WIP. Hip proportions look a little weird. How can I fix them?

>>5195763
Agreeing with >>5195765

I can totally see this design in Totally Spies, kek.

>>5195311
nice improvement. that gives me hope.

>>5195697
>tfw ya style develops

>>5195697
unironically the leftmost is the best. dont fall for the anime meme, kids

>>5195765
>>5195772
Rip, but yeah, that does happen sometimes. What artists would you recommend for learning appealing anime-sque faces for both humans and furries? I only did like 1-2 studies of Bengus now and that's it, but I do want to improve.

>>5195747
Try a Vilppu+Hampton combo instead. They're pretty similar, but Vilppu explains the basic forms better(This is a circle, this is a box, this bends this way, that bends that way), while Hampton goes straight to figure drawing(Head is this shape, body is that shape and this is how they connect).

>>5195755
Don't listen to this >>5195762
Advice, draw for fun and gradually apply what you study.

>>5195697
Where the fuck are the shadows on her crotch?
You did better job at that in previous years.

>>5195906
>Don't listen to this
Why? Is Drawabox not a good resource for learning?

>>5195916

Dont listen to anyone here and leave /ic/ if you want to get better.

>>5195924
This is the best advice.

>>5195924
Who do I listen to then?

>>5195916
I don't see the benefits of it.
What is it good for exactly?

>>5195924
>Dont listen to anyone here
/ic/ is actually a really good source for art guidance. You simply ask your question and then do the exact opposite of whatever the /ic/ agreed upon advice is.

>>5195934
I don't know, another anon recommended it but now people are saying not to use it.

Should I finish this?

>>5195043
I like it, saved
He needs a cigar tho

>>5195570
>collage of 4chan posts
Too avant-garde to critique. Draw one thousand boxes.

>>5195828
But since it's in anime style, you're obviously meant to read it right to left.

>>5195932
You mainly just have to teach yourself.
/ic/ is the biggest and best public online art community and it’s total shit. Maybe there are some private discords or something where people are actually skilled and helpful.
Most art teachers who advertise themselves as art teachers are pretty shit as well, the main skills they teach are copying photo refs and drawing weird box people. Unless you can develop a personal relationship with a skilled artist who is willing to mentor you, you’ll mainly be teaching yourself. And even if you can get a mentor, they can’t download art skills into your brain. The most they can do is help you analyze the mistakes in your work and give you tips on what direction to go in.

>>5195727

>>5195932
External sources will only ever give you information about different techniques other people have used, and it may be helpful in honing your craft. But if you constantly look to the exterior for validation and teaching, you will most certainly fail in every affair you set yourself to.

Believe in yourself, anon. Believe in your craft. The greatest teacher you can have is not outside of yourself.

>>5195763
It reminds me of that edgy webcomic about that guy who saw the future and made shitty puns. So yeah, definitely >>5195765

>>5195976
>>5195986
So what should I do to teach myself? Just draw things without reference non-stop until a figure it out on my own?

>>5195932
Listen to your heart.
>>5195934
I feel like doing some of the early exercises helped me with basic line drawing. Like, actually trying to draw whole lines even if they turn out wobbly, instead of approximating them with chicken scratches. I didn't really follow the curriculum, though, so I can't speak for the rest of it.

>>5195994
Are you trying to be dense on purpose? Study the shit out of references and read the books and grind the fucking basics and do all that shit. It will help a TON. But progress is never and will never be a mechanical affair. No amount of grinding will make you good until you take all that you've learned and take the leap into making it your own.

One thing is not divorced from the other. If you look constantly for advice you will never progress - you need to start carving out your own path. I can recommend whatever artist or reference book I like, but that's the thing, those are the ones I LIKE, the ones that fit my style and taste and way of learning. Yours is different. There isn't a single one-rule-fits-all. Research on your own artists, the ones you really like and admire, look at the way they do things and find the sources they learned from and research into those.

>>5195994
Well, how do you learn other things? For me, the basic feedback loop is trying to copy cool things I see, (whether those things are techniques, styles or physical objects) making mistakes, and then trying to understand those mistakes.

how do i get this kind of progress

>>5195906
which is exactly what draw a box tell you to do. https://drawabox.com/lesson/0/2/50percent

>>5195916
don't listen to him he probably never read the thing.

>>5195932
listen to everyone but do your due diligence.

>>5195984
kek

>>5196044
Courses, references, new brushes, books, youtube videos and better tablet and monitors. AKA everything else than drawing on daily basis (unless it's boxes or some other usele- I mean good exercise, then it's fine).
You're welcome, WAAGMI (we are all gonna make it)

>>5196044
draw 1 hour a week

>>5196001
>I didn't really follow the curriculum, though, so I can't speak for the rest of it.
What did you do after the basic exercises?

>>5196044
Just draw what you like. It's clearly what that guy did :^)

sometimes I feel like I forgot how to paint

>>5195769
>no replies

Sad! Many such cases!

Here's some progress.

>>5196143
This is real good anon. Doesn't belong on /beg/, go to /draw/ instead.

listen to self improvement audio books while drawing is the best thing

>>5196122
I got bored and went to draw some naked women instead.

>>5196197
Were you good enough to draw naked women at that point?

>>5196148
Don't try rendering yet. It looks terrible. Work on your drawing first and copy (not trace) pictures and work on copying the proportions correctly so you develop the artists eye and train your visual library.

Quicky that I made at 2AM when I couldn't fall asleep, hope you can get something out of it and if not, my bad.

>>5194478
I dunno man there's a lot of clutter there and as far as I can tell not much that is helpful.
The things I would focus on are the shape of the red dress because it's pretty distinct in comparison to the form and then a simplification of the mayor forms (ribcage, hip, legs.)
The ellipses for the Form for the leg on the left are okay but for the leg on the right for some reason it's on the wrong axis and tilted in the wrong direction. (that is if I understand what you're trying to do, like i said it's a bit of a mess.)
It's hard to tell what you should work on since as far as an actual drawing is concerend there's not much there.
But I get the sense you don't really understand Form, so whip out your figure drawing book of choice and go to the chapter that focuses on that.

>>5195256
could use better: line quality, line simplicity, awareness of angles, proportions, snazzy shapes, some actual forms.
For improving line quality there's not really much to do except think more about where you want a line to go and if you can make it simpler and more elegant.
Ghost over a line and then try to hit it with a clean smooth stroke.
Angles and proportion is essentially measuring, you just have to pay better attention/ relate things to one another.

>>5196202
What do you mean? I wasn't drawing them FOR anything. No one was grading me.

>>5196148
>>5196205
Alternative advice: If you want to practice rendering right now, just trace the line art.

>>5196222
Not even for yourself? Were you happy with your drawings?

can somebody red-line this pls, its a commission for a drawthread over on /tg/

>>5196153
>that neck
ye he belongs here

>>5196237
That's difficult to answer. Some of them, I guess. I don't like most of my drawings, and I feel sort of guilty about liking the ones I do like, as though I should be more critical of them. I know it's not really healthy. My family sometimes tells me that I'm good at drawing, and I just want to tell them they're wrong.
At least I get some satisfaction from the knowledge that I spent time on something other than video games for once.

>>5196219
Probably a retarded question, but are those cylinders how you're getting a feel for the overall structure of the body, or are you just dumbing things down for us after you drew it? I like how it gets you thinking about the curvature of the chest and how things should meet up at the pelvis.

>>5194462

Does tracing help improve line confidence and control for those of us prone to "chicken scratch" lines? I was tracing a screenshot from a game last night and I felt I got better at doing longer line segments at a decent, varying thickness while also following the contours of the characters better. Before, I would try to trace a long segment in one stroke, but I would fail to follow the line I was tracing. I diagnosed it as not being "ambitious" enough early on, but then I noticed I needed to keep my eyes farther ahead of my hand to follow the line better as well. Has anyone else done this before? What was your experience?

>>5196296
You mean the cylinders to the right? yep those are only to underline what I'm thinking about while drawing, I don't usually draw it outright.
It depends tho, sometimes if you're having a problems it might help to do that anyway and then work over it.
The cylinders are limited though, if you draw it out you probably want to go for more appropriate forms for the problem you're working on. What really helped me with that was the vilppu drawing manual. He starts going into all that jazz fairly early and imo fairly comprehensively.
Usually I just use ellipses to settle the form on the page/ in my mind and try to work them in so that I can use them organically in the final drawing.

>>5196411
I'd probably have to read his explanation of it then, because I tried it but couldn't really get the hang of it (but i also im brand new to this stuff, so it's definitely just me and not the method). What are you thinking about their placement, in relation to the rest of the body, when you draw them? I've been working on a similar method since yesterday where you use trapezoids instead to kind of establish a frame of reference for the shoulders and pelvis and their placement in space (which i guess kind of accomplishes the same thing.).

>>5196329
Line confidence just naturally improves with time. Don’t worry too much about it.
Your time would be better spent drawing original works, or at least copying photos by sight, instead of tracing.

>>5196329
Tracing is a cope

>>5194583
>>5195763
I think you biggest "problem" is your big honking nose, by just simply making the nose smaller and the mouth smaller, it can make the drawing look more eastern.

This is however subjective, you can do what you think is best.

>>5196602
This is an useful tip, thanks

Sketched Ramlethal on top of a shitty gesture/figure I made. I should probably fuck off back to drawing Vilppu spheres and boxes. Ngmi.

help fix pleas

>>5196661
Didn't you make a thread for this over a week ago

>>5196671
ye, and i reamde her many times

>>5196672
You what? How old are you?

>>519668
remade, i fucked up the writing since I'm also checking /lat/

>>5196685
remade, i fucked up the writing since I'm also checking /lat/
>>>/int/139304267

The face and the title. Trace some anime girl face and tits and you are golden.

>>5195166
upper left, may 2020
upper right, nov 2020
bottom, today
all took similar levels of time/effort

>>5196699
Oh

>>5196709
i dont think my art is nice to look at or that my improvement is remarkable. i'm just posting what i was asked to.

>>5196699
the expression on 2 and 3 are pretty nice.

>>5196148
Make the head larger, and pull it down to shrink the neck. Make the arms shorter, and shave off her right thigh bc it is so massively bigger than the left. Fuck off trying to copy coomer bait proportions without trying to understand what an actual body looks like

>>5194745
Porn has rotted your mind

how good are you at drawing BUTTCHEEKS?

>>5196661
I tried

>>5196044
Is this saying he was 14 years old when he started?

>>5196770

>>5196781
This guy has posted on /ic/ before.
He’s happy with his work and has no desire to change it. It’s not a case of someone trying really hard for 6 years to get better and failing.

>>5196792
cope

>>5196794
Hey, I’m just the messenger.

>>5196781
Feel really bad every time this gets posted, not because of the lack of improvement but because I helped make a meme out of him by constantly posting this in every improvement thread back in the day. It was funny until he came here and like >>5196792 said the guy is pleasant to speak with and is contempt with his drawings.

>>5196805
As someone who struggles a lot and puts a lot of pressure on myself to improve, I don't understand why so many /ic/ posters can't understand that some people don't want to constantly improve. Improving is hard. Some people reach their art goals and just want to draw for fun. Not everyone wants to be a world class artist who makes renaissance like works of high art in their atelier. Some people just want to scribble their favorite characters with colored pencils on printer paper and call it a day.

>post on the artwork critique board
>No I don’t want to improve!
????

>>5196836
The deviantart artist had no interest in posting here until autists from /ic/ started flooding his dA notes or whatever they're called. So he posted here to clarify that he was not stagnating or trying to improve and failing, but reached his art goals and was content to keep producing art at the same level

So for figure drawing the process goes: measurement/analysis of reference -> gesture -> construction over gesture -> fill in details
Or maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way?

>>5196841
Something like that, the better you get at that you can combined the steps. If you have time you should watch some of jeff watt on youtube to see him draw.

>>5196840
So basically he copes
Also he set up a bot that tells him when someone posts that image here so he’ll probably be here soon since he cares so much

So you just, copy poses?

>>5196865
Damn, looking at Watts is inspiring and demotivating at the same time. Got a lot to learn before I get to a fraction of that level.

>>5196824
>I don't understand why so many /ic/ posters can't understand that some people don't want to constantly improve.
some people just can't wear other people shoes

>>5196959
BOOOOO

>>5196977
not at all, man. you already are at a fraction of that level.

>>5194583
western furry is a type of kemono.

>>5195304
I like the head, but i don't know how to draw hair and hands either.

>>5196959
for gesture study, yeah pretty much.

>>5195542
>>5195570
not beg content fuck off niggers

>>5195128
>>5195121
how stubby are your fingers man?? this is 100% uncomfortable but not even close to impossible

>>5195727
this drawing is haunted please exorcise your drawing tablet

>>5197053

>>5195727

>>5195749
thank you here is a drawing I made awhile back.

>>5197062
>he still can't see the issue
just give up bro, you're obviously ngmi

>>5197142
Who? Katsunei?

>>5197142
Well i'll try something else.

>>5197053
but how long

Can someone please explain to me why the foreshortening on the soldier's left arm looks like actual dogshit? I did a proportion check and everything appears to be at least decent, but it doesn't read correctly... Admittedly I got bored halfway through putting lines down, but even though the top half is hurried, I feel like the foreshortening should still look right.

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>>5197062
So you can make a fist with your thumb pad totally flat against your knuckles? Is your thumb broken?

>>5196770
I think, I looked the twitter and they are 15 now
https://twitter.com/ddt9_

>>5197151
Is this serious? Holy fuck this seems like trolling. You will never be a woman.

>>5197144
Whoever is failing to understand the problem with that thumb.
>>5197145
Good luck.

>>5197151
>facebook
Are you on crack my nigga?

>>5197157
Looks like a vendetta post to me

>>5197142
not that anon
>>5197152
>totally flat against your knuckles
not completely but it looks like the anon's picture

How do I go about making proper linework?
I usually do the sketches on a Raster layer, then create a Vector layer for the linework since it basically has best quality and you can manipulate the lines around as well instead of erasing often, but whenever I do it, the actual result just seems like shit in comparison to the sketch.

Just feels like it lacks detail or sometimes the lines still come out looking too wonky or squiggly even when I turn on Smoothing.

>>5197164
What's that?

>>5197171
>vector

>>5197148
Maybe forever. Lots of good artists warm-up and practice with drawing poses.

>>5197171
This depends on what you're going for, but I think it's good to get into the mindset of not worrying about making perfect, clean lines when during your line stage. That's not really what linework is about. Sure, having clear lines helps with clarity and that's important, but you need to be *at least* capturing the same level of energy that's found in your sketch. So a good focus on line weight, hatching, or any other technique is crucial here. Study that. It can almost help to view your line stage as just another sketching stage (but cleaner). Just keep refining until it looks the way you want it.
Being a linework master might be one of the hardest paths to take when it comes to drawing. It's draftsmanship at its purest. It's why most artists take the colouring/rendering route as soon as they can.

>>5197183
Even this??

>>5197170
>not completely but it looks like the anon's picture
Cool. Feel free to post an image of it. He already posted his reference, showing how he fucked up >>5195150

WHO DO YOU DO ART COLLABS WITH OTHER ARTISTS? I ASK ALL THE TIME AND THEY JUST GHOST MY ASS LIKE A TINDER BITCH

>>5197209
It all depends on what you want to draw, you might want to know how to draw a person bending down.

>>5197231
You either suck or you don't have enough followers so they won't get anything out of collabing with you

>>5197231
pyw

I have no idea how to colour at all.

still trying

>>5195097
please god get a fucking mouse without angle snapping

>>5197240
>You either suck
in other words you gotta pay them bitch

>>5197310

>>5195237
How to do this "from head" and in 3/4 or 45 deg where is no perfect round on pelvis etc? I like Vilppu technology but can't use it properly (I prefer to "feel" the form and compute it's outline in mind but it's not super effective at all, especially when there is no many refs from different angles, for example an intersection with two different cylinders with no ref is very hard so I fails at leg-to-belly connection when camera at weird angles). Also what good exercises for line precision and accuracy (more effective than simply draw a lot of stuff)? When I want to put a line knowing it's wanted location and form it actually puts anything elsewhere with 10-50 px miss and then is an unlimited ctrl-z works starts. Maybe my hand is too weak.

>>5197291
>that lovely texture on the rocks
>good colors
>clear value organization
and then
>shitty middle school anime figure
It'd be an objectively better piece without the person

can someone tell me some tricks to drawing feet

>>5197370
>nd then
>shitty middle school anime figure
>It'd be an objectively better piece without the person
Man, FUCK YOU!

>>5197209
>>5197231
>>5197393
Stfu

>>5197396
pyw

>>5197400
pyw

>>5197214
sure.
this is by all means terrible design anyway. Quite uncomfortable, just not impossible

>>5197404
UH OH CRABS BTFO

>>5197407
kek

>You can lead a beg to the Box, but you can't make he draw

>>5197404
do you have a double jointed thumb wtf

>>5195138
>>5195128
you are such a loser hahahahaha

>>5197112
I bet that there is a manga about this.

>>5197416
>t. Lardass with shattered bones

braggh!!

>>5197416
Yes, but you also have stubby fingers

>>5197426
thanks doc

>>5197231
probably you are asking people with much more followers than you.

>>5197231
ask your friends, people only do art collabs with people that they know

>>5197393
draw a better loli

remember begs: one fap per day keep the thots away.

>>5196746
I appreciate the beauty of the nude human body. I do not jerk off to my work, and I do not just draw porn. I enjoy the beauty of God's creation in all its forms, contours, and angles.
But why do you care? You're just some rabid shitposter. I don't draw this because Im horny, I draw it because its fun to learn. How does the vagina and pelvis look from this angle? How do boob form across the chest at this angle? You see nudity and any slighty sexual content and instantly deviate it to degeneracy, because YOUR mind is rotten by some retarded propaganda you read on pol or some other shit
Hornyness is the reason the human race is alive, its the reason I have sex, and its the reason you will seethe. Also dilate

i dont know what to draw

>>5197587
Based and God's form pilled

Already posted in /fag/

This is my best attempt at trying to draw a full body so far. It probably wasn't a good idea to do a weird perspective. Everyone says I need construction, but I am trying my hardest to attempt construction but I don't think im doing it right.

>>5197596
go to the drawthreads

>>5197587
cope

>>5197600
probably need gesture

Can someone help me with the hair? I can't do it. Give me tips or ideas

>focus on bodies
>head drawing memory goes to shit
>focus on heads
>bodies go to shit
jsut /beg/ problems HAHA

>>5197614
no need to delve into hair at this stage, just try to get the overall shape. hair works much like cloth, but it's harder to render obviously. but hair is the last thing I would think about looking at this drawing desu. hand is surprisingly decent though, good job, although way to small

>>5197630
Thanks I'll do it later then

How do i approach figures like this better? I can do vertical but once its horizontal I lose my shit and feel like I just forgot everything.

>>5197640
construction and practice. this is a boring pose from a boring angle anyway. take the same pose and draw it from another angle. it's a great exercise and it's useless to draw straight up boring, unanimated poses anyway.

>>5197665
It's from the figuary '21 yesterday's video. It is a extremely boring pose.. The head part fucked me up making the rest of the figure kinda hard to draw. I noticed the boxy shape of the pelvis and the tube of the upper body but the head killed it for me.

>>5197052
ty love

>>5197614

>>5197670
Don't call me that, troon.

So I've been drawing this for about 6 hours now, may I have some critique please?

>>5197640
Like this?

>>5197680
i apperciate it but i think it's better to force myself to draw how it was naturally shown

>>5197678
anon are you being serious for pic related?

Im trying to do black and white drawings featuring skin.

What brushes do you use for skin? My brushes never blend well

>>5197640
sounds like you learned symbols rather than how objects actually function in 3d space

>>5197697
I am being very serious. I have studied vilppu and loomis for over 9 months now when an anon directed me to them before. I think I am making progress and I am taking a break from studies and doing a for-fun drawing and want to get critique. If you plan to make fun of me I frankly dgaf because I am putting in serious effort and actually drawing unlike some online trolls. She is my oc Layla (I will not be changing the square pupils as that is part of my style.)

>>5197711
>neko nyan
I fucking knew something looked familiar

>>5197678
she is looking the wrong way

>>5197678
nya rawr

Arms and hands in particular are so insanely weird to draw. I've been working on this for hours now and it's pain to look up and just be suddenly disgusted with how weird the arms look.

Besides pose and gesture, what else should I be trying to improve?

posting two cloth material studies I did today

first

>>5197824
second

>>5197819
probably more folds and stuff

>>5195727

I like the expression but pose is kinda bad?
I'm assuming you're going for frantic running but this just looks like angry powerwalking or she's holding in a wicked shit and is looking for a bathroom.
Reminds me of when I tried to animate a stick figure run cycle with zero refence and it just ended up looking like a weird long step walk.
looks like 5/6/7 from this image would be better choices for your character's pose. You got the idea with the torso twist and arm movement but the legs kill it. I liked your drawing more before I scrolled down and saw them desu.

I'm beg tho so feel free to ignore since i might be talking out my ass.

>>5197832
forgot image i am gay

>>5197393
He's right, though.

>>5197678
Did you follow that one "how to draw anime" guide? You know the one.

>>5197697
>>5197722
>>5197728
>>5197863
Can I get critique please?

>>5197767
>left forearm: six lines going around the arm
>right forearm: four lines
That should have let you tell the perspective was off.

>>5197824
>>5197825
Cool.
It bothers me how wonky your circles are, though.

>>5197678
Did it turn out as you imagined?

>>5197863
Found it

it's been like 2 years and i still have so much fuckin trouble rotating forms in my head
also arm looks really fucked

>>5197883
Fellow two year brother

bros?
how do I make my hand unlearn death gripping the fucking pen/stylus? it happens on both digital and paper/pencil
my thumb already hurts..its like unconsciously it fucking does a death grip...

>>5197709
what do you mean? i have an easier time doing it from less weird pose, i think i have an ok doing 3d objects but this pose was just too difficult

Critiques and advice

>>5198163
even in anime the skull isn't shaped like a circle.

>>5196654
I'm in no position to critique but the lines are pretty messy, especially around the collar. The head also looks completely detached from the body too, what's up with that? I still think you're GMI though.

>>5197596
draw your favorite character doing some random expression.

>>5197614
her eye is too wide, think how wide her eye would be if she faced us

>>5197678
delete and start again

>>5197819
anatomy in general.

new thread
>>5198253
>>5198253
>>5198253

>>5197404
>>5197418
>>5197423
>>5197432
>pseudo e-celeb btfo himself
>hoard of white knights and genetic freaks come to his rescue
Can't make this shit up.

i can't get my fat ass to finish most of my pieces. Where do i search for some guide that will help me fall into a routine and keep going? pu

>>5198282
>e-celeb
either terrible reading comprehension or incredibly buttmad. Anon made a wrong statement and they were corrected, this is usually how it goes

>>5196805
I do get why it gets posted and I do look back at that progress image with embarrassment.

>>5196840
I wouldn't say I've reached my art goals or don't want to improve, just that they're not my highest priority. I'm content with my art level and the pace of my improvement (mainly being small details that stand out more to me than other people) but I do still look up things to help me improve.

>>5196871
I didn't set up anything. A link was provided in the first thread I came to that keeps track of each time the same image gets posted on /ic/ and I check it every now and then.

>>5198232
I agree my lines are dogshit but at this stage I really don't wanna commit to polishing turds, just quick sketches and experimenting with poses/figures.

>>5194753
Her face looks like it’s getting smushed

Drew this from imagination, am I gonna make it lads?

Reference Drawing - Any tips to help me 'zoom out?' or look at the drawing as a whole? When drawing from a photo or RL, all the elements of my drawing/sketch are pretty good/accurate, but as a whole the positioning/proportions are off. I feel like I'm tunnel-visioning individual parts instead of looking at the image as a whole, but I'm struggling with this. Any tips?