/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5189268
I'M G-GONNA DROOOOW

Why is Mucha so hard to copy bros

Why are hands so hard to draw

>>5189268
I think Im going to start drawing some birds. human faces and bodies are hard

I'm struggling with final lines and shadows.
Been drawing for 1.5month. What do you think I should focus on?

>>5189268
DRAW THE FUCKING OWL!

>>5189268
cute owl!

>>5189294
I got better at hands by studying the bones in them, that kinda helps with proportions.

I'm still shit at it, mind you, but not as much

>>5189307
>What do you think I should focus on?
not sure about that neck head connection, so I would say anatomy

>>5189364
Spooky scary skeletons

will i make it, bros? my other drawing got ignored last bread :((

>>5189413
Absolutely, pretty good values to my eye also it seems like you enjoyed making this.

>>5189419
I absolutely did hahah. Most fun ive had in a while

>>5189268
How do I not fall for the grind fundies meme but also not end up like pic related

>>5189364
keep your disgusting hands away from umaru!

>>5189491
>how to improve
>draw what you want to draw
>it will suck. chose one flaw to work on
>work on it by doing exercise, learning, whatever
>draw what you want to draw
>repeat

>>5189497
I don't know anon, she seems really into it

I wasn't happy with this one from the start, and yet I persisted. Lesson learned, dont polish turds.

I don't have strong enough azn jeans.

I hate my life.

>>5189491
Why is she drinking with a worm?

>spend several minutes on warmup sketch digitally
>do same sketch on paper in half the time
Maybe I just need to get used to digital, but damn the difference is really noticeable.

>>5189563
I can't draw whatsoever on paper compared to digitally.

Which one is the best one my bros? Give me feedback on all of them since we're here tho

what do u guys think of my art :)

>>5189597
Inconsolably ngmi

>>5189597
coom

>>5189597
nice

>>5189597
>korean

yikes gook

Camera keeps shaking. But here is one of my older pieces

>>5189307
jaw too weak, ear too small and high
you should do some skull studies next just for proportions

>>5189621
damn man how do you draw with parkinsons???

>>5189268
Awesome, my bird made the OP. :)

>>5189578
>sword on back

>>5189307
I would say focus on facial construction as well as lineart.
I like the clotihng. and thought i'd try my hand at the face.

>>5189367
>>5189630
Yes your're both right, something is really wrong with that part. I'll get back to basic body sketches to improve.

>>5189630
>anatomy
>in anime style
How do you know I don't want him to have a weak jaw? Not every character needs to be some masculine Superman abomination like you western artists seem to believe as you give even the women jaws of steel.

>>5189558
>he doesn't know of the great autist

>>5189750
Oh that's way better, thank you anon.

>>5189752
>its anime so anatomy doesnt matter!!!!!
where did this retardation begin

>>5189752
>I wanted my character to look like a retard with hideous proportions
Criticism destroyed, bro, well done

>>5189578
what is he suppose to be?

>>5189749
I mean, it can be done if you want to.

Is there an effective way to practice speed drawing? Kinda like Bob Ross but for things other than landscapes? I am so sick of taking multiple days to draw a basic image that doesn't even have a fucking background.

>>5189749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EWi2DnDoaI

>>5189597
looks fine to me.

I had a revelation today and I want to share with you anons.
Actually fucking think before putting every single line. Think like you would think about your next move in a chess game. It really improves the quality of your drawings.
Don't slide into autopilot.

>>5189748
cute bird

>>5189752
OP here, it's true I failed the jaw and should focus on anatomy. Not to draw overly masculine shit but to make it look right.

>>5189771
>I am so sick of taking multiple days to draw a basic image
first you need to know why you are taking so long.

>>5189776
you are taking it too far

>>5189578
Your designs are very boring and uninspired my friend. I know its hard to tell when its your own OC, but i highly suggest you reevaluate your design choices

>watch a bunch of Proko and Vilppu vids
>draw something each night after work
>still feel unsatisfied
Where do I go from here?

>>5189268
cute owl

>>5189793
need to work on you anatomy, your proportions is off in some of your drawings.

>>5189800
>in some

>>5189784
Probably because I go back and redraw a ton of parts 100x. Maybe I'll just draw with a pen when practicing so I can't spend an entire evening making someone's arm look right.

>>5189793
do you have enough dexterity to put your lines where you want them to be?

Any other sculptfags here?

Practicing with plastiline, I want to make a figurine later in the year with polymer clay, maybe get into silicone and resin casting since polymer clay is too brittle. But there are manny things I want to practice first.
A few of my observations
I've tried making an anime-figure head, but a lot of detail in those is printed on instead of sculpted, so I may get into a more realistic head (while keeping anime proportions).
My biggest problem at the moment is the feet, my years of anti-feet-faggotry have made very ignorant on the shapes, I have Anatomy for Sculptors which has been of great help, but the block-out of the feet is lacking, and while I can (and will) use my own feet as reference, I would like to have more resources, specially to make them more feminine-looking, even if it burns my eyes.
The right thigh needs more material in the medial face to make the curve less pronounced
Then there's the forearm, it is relatively simple and I am overthinking it, but me not having defined forearms has made me ignore them.
The deltoid is too big and fat for the arms I have in mind
I feel that I must redo the posterior side of the knee. I remember they were fine in my last sculpture, but that one broke and threw it away.
Finally, I've seen figurine sculptors do (for example) the entire leg with a single piece of clay, then sculpt it all at once to give it shape. Meanwhile I do the basic shape, add muscles and structures separately, then smooth, and add/remove material to create a single piece. Is my autism going to bite me in the ass later on?

If it turns out fine I may turn her into a Shuten Douji sculpture, just add her clothes, itty-tiddies and her hair

>>5189807
Every time I hold a pencil Vilppu style I develop Parkinson's

>>5189752
Anime adheres to real anatomy often - face

>>5189497
no

Are there good references for manga pages? I am a total beginner and would like something with simple lines so I can practice copying. I checked the sticky but there is no manga refs.

>>5189904
Have you tried reading manga you like to collect references

>>5189880
reeeeeeee

>>5189789
No I'm not. I'm not telling you to think 10 lines in a advance, I'm just saying that you should put a lot more thought into the lines you draw.

>>5189904
You mean paneling or something else? If paneling you just posted a series with a simple page format. Read a chapter and analyze it.

>>5189913
I am doing that at the moment. It would be nice to have some handpicked pages that are good to practice if there are any good recourses. Atm I am only doing faces mostly. Some manga on top of my head that I really like the art style of:
Blame
Berserk
Kaiji
Dorohedoro
Late Bleach
Early one piece
Freesia

>>5189936
Only bainlets look for hand picked references
Basic /v/ taste

whats the pw for croquis cafe?

>>5189753

Good, let him be a perpetual summer child

>>5189739
kek

>>5189793
Gesture. Lots of gesture.

Do hour long classroom sessions. A bunch of 30 second and 1 and 2 minute gestures, followed by some 5 and 10 minute ones.

Helped me a lot.

I want to eventually paint or acquire the skills to create background art and full concept art, but as of now I am hardening my fundamentals as a newborn to drawing. When should I begin to learn painting and color painting to make bg art?

>>5190000
The moment you start learning about colour. Don't just study - you also need to try and apply what you study to something you like. Each day you spend some time on studies and some on just drawing what you like after the studies.

>gesture generator
>90% of the pictures are people in static poses

6 months wasted

>>5190026
kill

6 months of trying
but it makes me terrified to be on the other side
How long before I go insane?

6 months deluded, believing the lies of /ic/ the lies of Loomis, Loomis is now maggot food for all of eternity
Lies, and what was that lie? That anyone can learn to draw
https://youtu.be/Lqs2oIBFPxI

>>5189926
>I'm not telling you to think 10 lines in a advance
then you are pretty bad at chess.

Any feedback on this? Especially looking for what other people think of this art style

>>5189820
well you need to work on that then

>>5190046
I love Lucca2!
Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with the artstyle per see, it's just not very polished so far. I expect that, in the future, you will draw the hands better for example (the left one is pretty wonky)
Great job on the folds and outfit in general, it's very well done
Cute face too, it's "western animu" of course, but it seems like you are aiming for that, so it's alright

>>5190046
her clothes look like it is made of paper.

>>5190036
It was just an analogy dude, come on
I don't even think 3 moves in advance in chess

>>5190046
best girl

hows me birb

>>5190087
the thumbnail could pass as a photo

>>5190046
Not bad, I think the colours could be a bit more vibrant. decided to draw it myself.

trying to push that last 15%

>>5190087

You did a good job with it, but it's extremely flat looking. Like there's no sense of volume.

>>5190123
source of that image?

>>5190141
just thumbnails

trying to construct the skull from a ref to get a better feel of the underlying form
how'd i do?

>>5189808
This is really cool. I don't know anything about it, but good luck anon!

How many years until I can draw like this?

>>5190186
Like 2-3 months if you start now

>>5190186
>noise filter

>>5190141
>>5190155
to be more specific, i took inspiration from death stranding's boss fight

>>5190186
2-3 months just because of the hands. The head is a circle and the only features you have to learn are eyes and mouth since nose and ears are cringe.

>>5190186
you know that we don't know what your current level even is right? also how fast your learn

>>5190193
More like 4-6 months

>>5190186
between 6 month and 1 year depending on whether you're a NEET, how you feel about tracing and how fast you can figure out how filters, wet brushes and layer fusion modes actually work.
That stuff looks impressive but you soon learn how it's not that hard to do. I mean it's still fucking hard, just not THAT much.

>>5190218
he didn't ask how long would it take to paint like that

this is the last thing i actually drawn and actually completed. i know I haven't made it yet and I probably made a ton of art mistakes but it would be nice to get an honest thought and told what I have to study or work on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9SptdjpJBQ

>>5190220
overall anatomy, lips look like he is giving a kiss, The moon is a source of light.

>>5190220
first off you're already better off than 90% of this board for finishing your pieces, so good on you for that
generally though id just suggest studying your fundies more, there are many glaring issues with this but the ones that especially catch my eye are the tiny legs and the off-balance nature of his pose
keep it up gaylord

Exactly how long does it take you guys to draw one (1) Loomis head? I feel like it's taking me too long.

>>5190231
stop drawing loomis heads

>>5190231
Draw proko heads

>>5190231
The full head or just the sphere with a few landmarks on it ?
the latter takes me like 40 seconds, maybe 2 minutes when I'm copying something for practice and need to get the angles right.

Hey can I get some help on this, I've been told my drawings are to stiff, so tried loosing up let me know if they are still to stiff

Work in progress.
It's hard to show the form with only lines.
Also, hands are difficult.

>>5190283
reference

>>5190241
Full head, with all details exactly. I'm kinda embarrassed to admit it, but it takes me about 1 hour per head. Maybe I'm being too perfectionistic, idk

How proportions learning works? I'm training the Feel of proportions when drawing figures with predefined proportions and than be able to draw with other proportions or I'm only remembering current proportions and need a new training for new ones?

>>5190283
It's pretty nice anon : )

>>5190283
Work on the quality of your lines, it's all over the place. Generally, you want thin lines where there's light, and thick lines to imply darker areas. Also pay more attention to contour - you can use thicker contour lines to define the figures from each other, and to help create the illusion of depth - the eye gets confused at the muddle of line weights you're using here.
This is above your skill level - it's a good attempt, but i can tell you're jumping around too much, trying to do too much, and the whole piece suffers for it. Try more simple subjects, work on hands, work on line quality, work on accuracy and pleasing to the eye. There's far too many random lines here. "feeling the form" is appropriate here - every line should be intentional, defining the borders and shapes and contours of the figure. Look at each line as it exists - AND how it relates to the other lines around it, and if you're being accurate or not. Your forms are wonky because you're not paying attention to each line like that.

Try drawing each character, as a study. Try to capture each on accurately, and using contour and line weight to make a pleasing rendition. Then consider doing them all together, and then rendering the background more pleasing to the eye - what you did is a cop out.

Also, work on bigger paper. You shouldn't draw right to the edge like that, you should always frame your work on the page, and drawing a boundary helps 'own" the page and setting up the composition. Working bigger will also give you more room to vary your line weights so you don't get the over-drawn lines on the hands.

>>5190288
Time is meaningless when learning. Speed comes from improving, and experience.

>>5190194
Noise filter is a great way to add texture to an image and make it feel more organic. Not everyone likes completely sterile digital art. Don't reply to me, /beg/let.

>>5190126
That's from the background. You can't have a bokeh (blurry) background, and flat art. That only works in photography.

What do you think about my loomis [updated]

>>5190171
Nose looks a bit too thick and not wide enough like you're subconsciously afraid to make it wider. It's okay to make it wider, that's what Dafoe's nose really looks like. A lot of artists struggle with giving realistic imperfection and subconsciously try to correct these flaws.

>>5190126
I gotta work on learning shadows and such. Its hell. Thanks though

>>5190193
>>5190200
>>5190213
AH SO THATS HOW I SHOULD BE DRAWING RIGHT NOW HUH
THE NATURE OF TALENT IS OBVIOUS

>>5190360
>>5190171
Forgot to add that other than that it looks like a good job to me.

Any advice? Any place where I should focus? I've been drawing for ~7 months.

Did this. Are the collar bones right? Her left eye? Actually, are both eye good? Pls help anons

>>5190354
wasnt even meant judgemental I like niose filter too

>>5190276
I'd recommend starting with a line of action to give your pose some dynamic action.

>>5189641
>>5188829
4 hours a day durING 4 months WerE SpenT doing this
the reSourCes you AlrEady Know buT thE FOCUS
WAS
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FundAmentals, shapes, spheres and ovals, OBservational drawing, practice On MusC LE mEMORY and development of it, LINES of all kinDS, Line quality, LINe confidence, circles ovals cylinders, eggs, spheres, trying TO do KEYS TO DRAWING
THis failed
>>5190368
7 MONTHSSS?

>>5190368
Uh...maybe on an actual face? Over half a year and this is the face?

>>5190314
not sure what you mean

>>5190368
dont wan't to sound mean but pretty much everything. Jaw is just there, like it doesnt end, you made it too long. Eyes and mouth I mean, you didnt draw them so I dont know. Hands look strange, and the fingers are bad. Neck even if in this style looks wrong. Boobs too high, shoulders too wide and look stiff, lower them. Hairs looks boring, but not too bad. The suit is tight everywhere but on the neck, why? Good luck bro

>>5190027
ur

6 MONTHS IN
FOR THIS
PRINTER KUN THEY CALLED ME PRINTER kun
Drawing is 90% talent 10% skill

>>5190276
They're still too stiff. Overall, there's a lot of advanced symbol drawing here, over poorly thought out anatomy, poor proportions, and pure cop outs on things like hands, feet, and hair.

Start looking at photos and video of dancers. Watch how the body changes when the center of gravity changes, as they shift their weight from leg to leg, and how the body flows in movement, then capture that. Gesture, contour. Pay attention.

It's just a series of mistakes compounded into one figure. Look at the figure on the right - the thigh in the background is twice as big as it should be. You need to study that entire part of the body, the forms and muscles of it, to make a pleasing image of a dancer, because hips are a big part of dancing - and drawing the body correctly.

Stiffness is definitely an issue here, but its not the only one. LOOK at the human body, how it's constructed, and how it's masses change shape in movement. Even in cartooning you have to get that right or it will never be credible.

>>5190368
how is your hand control?

>>5190374
Alright any study suggestions?

BRUTAL TRUTH
>no one who ever started as shit ever went on to become as good
TALENT IS REAL

>>5190400
Gotcha thanks for the advice

6 months in I SHOULD be better but Im not because the talent is just not there

>>5190393
Thank you for this answer. I'll save it and try to change the parts you mentioned. I know I have a lot to learn, but at least it's fun to draw

>>5190384
Yeah, it's meant to be like that, as it's part of the character. (Not like my faces are good, they certainly aren't, but I don't always draw them like that)

But still, thank you

>>5190370
nigga im getting the silent treatment

>>5190409
>I-it's supposed to be garbage!
Eternal /beg/

>Yes you should quit, because you're an npc that doesn't have a mind's eye. You're soulless, anon, and so you should continue with you life without doing art for professional reasons, if it makes you feel good though, just continue, but to me it seems like your mind is being tortured by the way art reminds you of the absense of a soul in you.
BRUTAL POST TELLING ME TO QUIT

>>5190419
Now that you said that, yeah, sorry. It's just white lol, I should have added some kind of detail, or idk, something

Any suggestions for what I could improve on? looking at the picture objectively I can see that I drew the head too big, but is there anything else I missed?

>>5190428
This guy has been drawing for 2 MONTHS AND HES BETTER THAN ME?
its over, its truly over

>>5190428
His left eye is a bit misplaced, it should be higher I feel
Also you could add some more subtle folds on his t-shirt

>>5190428
the head angle is different from the ref, the body seems more hunch over as well.

>>5190398
and 100% reason to remember the name

>>5190441
You mock me HUMAN

>>5190428
>when others copy the reference
Good progress anon
>when I do
Printer Kun

>>5189268
>trying to do practices/studies
>have a shitty time and everything looks like trash
>open ms paint and drawing whatever I want with no references
>have a great time and make stuff that looks way better

>>5190450
It's the same for me, but without the looking way better part.
Can I see your ms paint drawings? :D

>>5190466
Sure. I know they're bad but I actually have fun making them

>>5190442
no

>>5190471
Yes you do, you mock me for having no talent

>>5190387
If I can perfectly into Loomis proportions is it means that I can into other's (anime for example) after seen a ref or I need to learn it from zero for same time I learnt Loomis?

>>5190450
this, if you train yourself to associate drawing with fun, learning will be much easier.

>>5190474
I see, so you are a mind reader now?!

>>5190482
Then explain yourself

>>5190467
here's a venezuluan poodle moth. i didn't draw the wings
>>5190480
i agree whole fartedly. i wish i had got myself out of that rut earlier

>>5190497
whoops forgot the pic

>>5190479
not sure about that, but some relationships are equal, like the crotch being in the middle of the body, so there is that.

>>5190365
thanks mate

>>5190484
do you not know this music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbPNVEB8O7E

you said
>90% talent 10% skill
and completed with
>and 100% reason to remember the name
that is the joke

Why are some people still lying to me?
>no dude youre doing ok for 6 months
No, Im not do you think I dont notice? I havent experienced progress, I'm talentless
>>5190507
This is disappointing

>>5189578
Number 3 standar outfit
Number 2 adventure/exploration parts

I love simple desings

Does anyone know any good tips for doing quick thumbnails for environment design type stuff without getting bogged down in vanishing points and details?
I find I can only really do 1 point in thumbnail form as 2 point or mixed angles are just hard to visualize without actually doing the vps at full scale.

>>5190515
Because they don't want to discourage you and make you drop the art.
Everyone was dog shit when they just started.

>>5190515
sorry

>>5190530
then simplify it

>>5190540
Let me paraphrase, certain doctors need to be sociopathic, as to be able to fulfill your job calmly and efficiently, surgeons.
If you were and THIS IS DRAWING RELATED a surgeon and you truly knew that the evidence is that your patient is just a waste of effort and will die, just tell them, literally tell them, there's nothing we can do for you but try to ease your passing, take your time to process it and that's it.
So why would you lie to me when you're getting in the way of efficiency, my "diagnosis" is that I'm talentless, the board agrees so why lie?

I need to be told things like this since the evidence backs it up
>>Yes you should quit, because you're an npc that doesn't have a mind's eye. You're soulless, anon, and so you should continue with you life without doing art for professional reasons, if it makes you feel good though, just continue, but to me it seems like your mind is being tortured by the way art reminds you of the absense of a soul in you.
>>Exactly, you're subhuman. You can't think for yourself, you can't improve on your own, you can't even improve with others help and external resources and tutorials, completely hopeless. Not to speak of creativity and being able to portray higher levels of consciousness.
Don't project back to me or to others, that's pathetic and base.
So, am I talentless anon? >>5190540

>>5190515
what does ur art look like 6 months prior?

>>5190534
Zoom out. Draw only big shapes. Refine after youre satisfied with the base. Draw on 100 pixel thumbs as a starter if you must.

Maybe I must adapt, since being good at drawing is impossible for me due to being talentless, then I can learn to enjoy and love my chains, Ahhh my chains, my lovely failure
6 months failing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic8j13piAhQ
>>5190565
This was my first drawing, as you can notice from the strong lines

EVERY. FUCKING. THREAD.
no one cares that you think you're talentless,no one cares that you're too depressed for art, and everyone sees you're just trying to bring them down to your level.
dont draw. go play a game or something.

>>5190578
I don't care about your species even less about you as individuals, I dont insult others art unless it's to help them because I just simply don't care about you unless you serve as comparison.

>>5190558
is your art good? no
should you stop because of it? probably no
but it's up to you.

>>5190581
Are you perhaps stupid? So if it's not good why would I keep at it?

>>5190583
can i ask what your political views are?

>>5190581
Actually elaborate on that, what's so bad about my art? I already know all the answers but I'd love to hear it from you, and would you agree with the fact that I SHOULD be better by now (6 months) if I was meant to be an artist?
>>5190589
That's not art related.

>>5190591
I never implied it was bad, it's just beg level.

>>5190589
Soviet art is stimulating

>>5190591
post your best piece of art

>>5190598
looks kinda like digital art from the early VGA era.

>>5190599
I have none, I haven't produced any art, only abortion after abortion, practice.
>>5190596
No, you did, not even implied it, you explicitly said it.
>is your art good? no
Answer the question, am I right on this, I SHOULD be better on sheer mileage alone at 6 months?
>>5190602
I know, it's exactly that, meant to say aesthetics.

>>5190598
>>5190605
>>5190602
Oh wait it's not, I should really take better care of my folder, my memory and knowledge are both
incomplete

>>5190605
post your worst abortion then

Zero work has been done, only abortion and abortion, faith in the process of practice led to 6 months being completely wasted

This resource was given to us, just like all the others before and the ones that will come if they ever come
It didn't work
https://www.dorian-iten.com/accuracy/

>>5190573
you have to understand that anatomy is THE hardest subject to draw from
>6 months of failing
how many hours a day are you actually drawing? if you're only doing an hour a day that's only 30 hours a month
>wage slaves work 30 hours in a WEEK
what you need to do is swallow your pride and break things down into smaller bits

>this is me exactly one year ago

>>5190669
You were clearly better than me one year ago,
save your tears for another day
and yet another stupid fuck eager to talk to assume things, what makes you think I only draw one hour a day? MY PRACTICE IS THAT SHIT HUH
AHAHAHAHAHAH MY 4 HOURS A DAY AVERAGE ARE THE SAME AS 1 HOUR FROM SOMEONE TALENTED
4 hours a day average

>>5190616
I dont think accuracy should be anyones focus when learning to draw anyhow
unless you want to be a human photocopier i guess

>>5190677
>implying 4 hours is actually a lot
take a break from boring shit and draw what's fun to you, that's the whole point is to have fun
next time you draw:
>start
>finish
>critique
>repeat
try and actually learn something out of each drawing otherwise you wont improve
i'm done responding

>>5190573
shit, you really didn't improve.

SEE >>5190709
HE KNOWS THEY KNOW
i wasted 6 months, Im self aware I can see every single mistake BUT I CANT FIX IT, I CAN SEE MISTAKES I SHOULDNT BE AWARE OF BUT I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE BY NAME YET NOTHING CHANGES I CANT FIX THEM
>>5190709
THANKS
my exact point

I EXPERIENCED ZERO PROGRESS
>>5190573
>>5190712
>>5190611

>>5190709
specifics now
>>5190701
Observational drawing must be learnt first

>mfw painting is hard as shit

SO LOVE WHEN YOU CALL UNEXPECTED
CAUSE I HATE WHEN THE MOMENTS EXPECTED
>>5190704
see this reply >>5190709

>>5190709
iNST It wonderful? That i experienced zero progress? isnit it tragic? like a slow motion crash?
To you as an observer? what does it look like? Can you imagine what it feels like for the one stuck in it? Should I quit? Am I talentless?
So I love when you call unexpected
'Cause I hate when the moment's expected

>>5190724
From the thumbnail it looks like a pair of balls.

>>5190709
Can you imagine what that feels like? Like being tossed into hell, cast into eternal torture, but the fall never stops, the fall is hell itself.
You wonder, when will it stop? When will I reach my punishment only to continue as every day brings new drawings bring about hope, hope flows every day and is tortured at night, tomorrow the ordeal will resume, that's life.
As I fall and keep on falling me, my chain is gravity itself, why is it taking so long to die? I'll never get used to it and the abyss grows and grows, am I falling upwards or down? Does it even matter?

>>5190731
lmao it really does

>>5189268
My first painting, what you guys think?

>>5190777
Derp, forgot pic

>>5190781
more like belongs in the trash

>>5190781
good job fr though

>male weight gain diagram is normal
>female weight gain diagram makes her turn into a lumbering ogre
lmao wtf

>>5190173
>I don't know anything about it
Well, Gosh gee frickin darn it
Here's an update, tried moving it into a new position because that way I can practice muscles in different states in a single figure. But this caused problems with the armature and limbs not sticking to the torso. The breasts are also lackluster, I am yet to FEEL the shape.
And I still have no idea how to make anything bellow the ankle

>>5190819
Have you ever meet an emotionally-stable obese woman?

hello everyone im new to procreate and didn't feel like drawing the chair

does this count as construction? could it translate into line art?

been doing these and it helps a lot. just thought it might help someone else

>>5190928
>mfw just drew 100 shitty hands in one sitting

>>5190350
Thanks anon. I know I'm slow, but everyone I show them to is really impressed and says that I have talent.

I have been practicing funds, I still lack but I want to improve and I will strive to learn, so any criticism and advice is welcome, if you know of any book that can help me or video I would be grateful.

>>5190868
You should really draw the chair bro it's a good measuring point

Did a lobster arm

cooking fish.
I really need to do practices, but these days I just want to doodle shit like this.
I don't know what to do

>>5190950
I just didn't feel like it

>>5190405
Why are you posting that guy's art and acting like you're him having a mental breakdown? Fuck off with that shit.

>>5190405
I used his reference, that's my drawing

>>5190949
where is the horizon line,
i feel like perspective is wrong but i cant correct u cuz i am a crab
i've tried, btw is the place where i put an arrow higher than horizon line?

>>5190962
needs more shadows

>>5190952
snip snip

>>5190895
can someone help me with the left eye? I'm trying to make droopy eyes but have no idea how it'd work in that angle

6 fucking months wasted
>>5191034
Nice talent

>>5191034
visualise an eyeball and how the eyelids would wrap around it from that angle

>>5190991
added shadows desu.
Can't really do complex stuff...
Is there anything I should worry about anatomy or proportions or something else?

>>5191055
Mermaid looks like a guy. Take note of her chin and obliques.

>>5190868
I'm not good at this either,
but it seems like you have some issues there. I'd say try and put on image on top of the other and see what's wrong
>>5191057
yeah, I hear that my girls looks like dudes.
Don't really know how to fix it. Never been able to fix it.
Any specific advice?

>>5190988

If this is where you put it, only covered by the earth and grass below. but I understand your point I must improve on that.

>>5191060
stop grinding male figures, and start grinding female figures.

>>5190949
i like the vibrate colors anon but watch out on your values... remember that the further away an object is, the lighter it is and the closer, the darker
>notice the trees in the back are darker than than the front
if you have photoshop, keep the top layer all black and set it to saturation to constantly check the values
the composition is a little confusing desu. the best paintings have a foreground, mid ground (main focal point) and background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsQ7eTmR27U one of the best videos i've seen that explains and break downs how compositions work
keep it up

>>5191060

>>5191069
Is it just the face at least? or is it the whole figure
>>5191076
oh, I see it, thanks

Some figures for today. The armpit region when the arm is raised still trips me up, but I think it's starting to click.

>>5191076
is this better...?

>>5191089
You bragged about your talent yesterday its you
You are bragging about drawing better birds now

>>5191070
OOh shieet, you right anon i totally avoid the value , thank you verymmuch-.

>>5191089
I like!

>>5191139
yw :)

Drawing dragons from imagination

Nice thread!

>>5191219
stfu dude!

I'm 2.5 months in or so into drawing. I've been using Loomis' figure drawing book and barely got into his head & hands book, which I've really just used to help orient the head better during figure drawing.

I've done some anatomy stuff as supplement.
>tfw knees are poop
>tfw feet & ankles are poop
>tfw hands are nonexistent
>tfw backside is still weird

pic related is without reference. Idk what else to say but I just wanted to post.

>>5191215
Why does it have human nose bones? You should maybe look at dinosaur/lizard/bird skulls if you want to make a skeletal dragon.

>>5191242
Nice work!

>>5191244
Fuck, that's a good point... I'll do that.

>>5191245
ty. Stuff is clicking more and more. The backside is full of vagueness for me but I feel otherwise I can piece together a torso and arms logically based on the muscle stuff I drew.

I've realized I've drawn 90% of my poses from the front and neglected the back entirely. I've also drawn pic related but that was from reference.

>>5191089
women are so pretty. I wish I had a gf :(

good drawings though

>>5190952
BIG
MEATY
CLAW

So not getting any replies means you're not beg anymore??

>>5191262
It means you need to draw bigger boobs

>>5191242
only 2.5 months? pretty confident lines

>>5190428
his right arm is curved towards him as opposed to being straight bone with curved muscles on it

his right bicep is flowing more on the side facing his torso, not upright. There should be some deltoid visible before the shirt appears. It's basically a sideways arm.

the head is angled forwards while he is looking upwards in the reference

adam apple is too low

otherwise pretty based and redpilled

>>5191273
should I aim to just make single lines? When I drew that, I'd draw very light scratchy flowing lines and then I went over it with a sharper line when touching it up

kinda like pic related. please no bully on the gap in his shoulder

>>5191173
>>5191259
Thanks, friends. :)

>>5190435
>>5190440
>>5191276
thanks for the critiques frens, I'll keep this in mind for the next drawing

Anyone happen to have the guide that really good footfag that used to post here made on feet?

>>5190029
Nice, saved

how to draw animals?? i feel like the fur i draw just looks like shitty crosshatching, any advice?

>>5191299
seconding this, as someone who struggles with them a lot

>>5191299

I'm looking to find the artist of some art (I believe he does primarily coomer art), and have had no luck in sourcing the two images I have of their art. Other than searching for the image on google and yandex, I'm lost on methods of how to find the artist.

What are the most used platforms that artists (more amateur than professional, although both would be appreciated) use to get exposure and critiquing?

Are there any other tips you could perhaps give me in how to source the pieces online?

Thank you so much in advance.

>>5191354
I'm enough of a degen to maybe recognize the artist if you post them.

>>5191354
post it in the relevant thread on /d/ or /aco/ and ask if someone knows the artist

>>5190781
would buy

>>5191261
lol great episode

At what point do you stop relying a lot on construction and start "feeling" proportions and shit?
A lot of very experienced artists jump straight to painting, or use an extremely simplistic undersketch. Like at what point will I know that I'm ready to start drawing portraits without spending 10 minutes on a drawing a ball, its cross section, and chopping off the side?

>>5191477
When you try that strategy and it looks good, you're ready.

>>5191477
This sort of thought process is so retarded that I cannot find ways to quantify and explain to you how retarded it is.

>>5191477
you just answered your own question and went full retarded at the same time

>>5191482
>>5191486
Back to grinding Loomis heads and not browsing this shithole of a board.

>>5191358
Graciously, thank you for your help even if it's no dice.

>>5191490
Don't listen to those guys. Just try it for yourself and analyze the result. I don't think you should have to draw the whole loomis process for too long.

>>5191477
Construction is just a tool to help you draw. You will ideally create your own simplified method over time as you get better. There's no one way with construction, each artist has their own personal approach and you need to develop yours by seeing how others construct their drawings and what methods *actually* help you.

>proportions
Just study some basic stuff like halves and maybe loosely some head measurements, enough to know what the baseline is in case you don't know how long legs need to be. Just don't be too literal with it, proportions should be broken to fit the aesthetic appeal of the drawing. It'll take time but getting better at using your intuition and eyeballing things is going to help you a lot here.

This might seem trivial but what sketchbooks do you guys like to use? The last one I bought the paper felt a little rough with finer lines getting smudged

>>5191495
>>5191524
Thank you Anons.

>>5190728
>>5190738
you made me reevaluate my world view

>>5191100
Exaggerate the narrowness of her waist and make her bum bigger. Also make her chin and he smaller and pointier.

>>5191543
Chin and jaw smaller and pointier*

>>5190952
now draw a cute anime gril on it for profit

>>5190962
>mermaid with knee

>>5191316

the same as hair in humans, clump together the values

>>5191262
no

>>5190403
Pure crab cope.

>>5191531
If you do pen and/or marker, I recommend Copic's paper. You can buy it as sketchbooks or loose sheets. I can use markers all I want and I don't have to put anything underneath because it doesn't bleed through.

ya ever just have a sketch go completely to hellfuck?

>>5190398
is the right one up for sale?

>>5190450
i personally hate drawing with references because it's much easier to objectively judge it against something. it's also where the biggest gains lies so i force myself to do it anyway, even though i'm not really enjoying it, but that's also why i only do studies like, once a week at best.

>>5190403
cringe and 100% ngmi

>>5190515
If I have to be honest. Instead of being talentless you are more likely to have a learning disability which makes you learn very slow. The way you type and your weak mental state also makes me think that.

>>5191100
smaller chin, narrower jaw, rounded cheeks, don't draw the entire nose ridge, fuller top lip. also exaggerate her makeup, especially long lashes and shit.
here's a terrible """fix""" that i made with a mouse. i made her lips look like a mustache. sorry about that.

>>5191600
You made it worse

>>5191604
dont be so crabby, post your own

>>5191600
why does /ic/ think you have to make women look like mouth breathers. what’s wrong with having a chin?

>>5189413
Good colors but the drawing is bad. It looks flat. You need Loomis.

>>5191543
>>5191600
thanks
>>5191621
Maybe it's more about the jaw?
idk.
As long as there isn't anything too off anatomically, I'm just going to ignore it for now

>>5191524
>each artist has their own personal approach and you need to develop yours
Looks like an invention of bicycle. It's hard to break a mental block to do such a things.

The only thing ive learned from 1.5 years of drawing is that everyone who gives art advice is wrong and if i do the opposite of conventional wisdom i cam expect to find the most improvement

>>5191720
Loomis worked for me.

>>5191739
Pyw

how owl?

>>5191760
cute!

>>5191748
Sure.

>>5189268
>>5191760
Minerva smiles upon you.

new thread

>>5191849
>>5191849
>>5191849
>>5191849

>>5191242
2.5 MONTHS?
HAHAHAHAHA
>>5191305
No its not
>>5191541
Are you looking down on me? calling me pathetic?
>>5191590
All drawings have been destroyed, being scanned is the only evidence they existence KINDA LIKE PEOPLE HAAHAHAHAH
>>5191598
I know for sure I dont have one yet I got called a retard
SO THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF ME HUH

>>5191826
How long?

>>5191989
9 months from being an absolute beginner until now. Loomis for like 2 months.

>>5191241
:O :(

>>5191973
>Are you looking down on me? calling me pathetic?
it is just that I always thought that anyone could learn how to draw, but if everything you said is true I was wrong.

>>5192087
Now you must help me, give me your opinions on my predicament

>>5192089
go to some psychologist, maybe you have the drawing version of dyslexia.

>>5192108
NO tell me your opinion
HAVE I WASTED 6 MONTHS AND WHY?
HOW BELOW AVERAGE IS MY """PROGRESS"""?

>>5192108
>>5192087
ANSWER me fucker

>>5192117
I don't know what an average progress look likes tho

>>5192158
Tell me answer the fucking question

>>5190718
Raw repetition does fuck all. Go watch Ethan Becker, do what he says, if you still don't improve you're permafucked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxoTwEdbbgQ