/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5175388
focus on construction before moving on to shading. For instance, imagine the cup as a set of simple geometric shapes such as cylinders and spheres that together make up the complex shape of the cup.

I can't for the life of me reproduce any of these early loomis exercises. I can just about form a sphere drawing from the shoulder, but after that the placement of my lines seems to fall apart. I can never visualize where the curves should sit relative to the axis pole with my smoothbrain

>>5175438
draw cubes instead

>>5175438
I just draw it and keep redrawing until it looks right. I hope that with time I will get better at my guesses.

>>5175460
Thanks anon. I will draw 50 in a row

>>5175261
Thank you so much anon. I've just rotated a book in real life to observe what you've written and tried to imagine the vanishing points, it has greatly helped to visualize the length and weight lines going towards the horizon in real time and how the vanishing points move.

>>5175438
>>5175456
poorly done, but maybe you get the idea

>>5175479
hmm, I think I see what you mean now. I could do this as an exta stage to form the sphere and elipses themselves.

>>5175479
oh, and thanks anon <3

>>5175485
>I could do this as an exta stage to form the sphere and elipses themselves.
yes exactly
>>5175488
yw

How is it?

>>5175498
4 legs?

>>5175504
6?

i am beginner sort of

>>5175431
don't give advice if you know shit.

>>5175498
Is this really /beg/? To my /beg/ eyes this looks pretty nice, except for the dots that kinda look like some sort of weird shading instead of details?

>>5175605
I don't know if it is or isn't.

>>5175365
what brushes should i use if im painting in krita ? i have been doing digital painting for 4 months now and i still havent used any other brush besides airbrush

>>5175365
Fuck you, shitter, I hope you get cancer

angery kitty

>>5175658
dude, no idea
am using Krita in Linux with an XP-Pen 15.6 Artist Pro for almost two weeks
Before that, I haven't done shit.
Maybe a few sketches over the years, but nothing really serious
This is new media for me.
learned with oils, acrylics, pencil, ball-point pen, silkscreen, etching, block print, sculpture (I tried a silkscreened sculpture once hahaha) - I wasn't the best or super-proficient with those, but I used them for my own creations.

>>5175677
that's real nice
> that little shit
we have 2

An anon form the previous thread suggested I vary my hue when shading so I gave it a shot. Both warm and cold hues look ok to me, so I suppose the deciding factor would be the environment the object is in.

>>5175658
Custom pencil without texture for inking, basic for solid color, airbrush and marker_detail for shading. I'm a beg though, so this is probably not ideal. Mix and match to find what suits you best.

>>5175365
Well done, keep putting non-beg art in the OP as your personal vendetta against artists and demoralizing other anons, you crab fucking shit. I hope you're really proud of yourself. What a badass, made a few strangers on a Chinese forum sad.

>>5175365
Remember guys, you don't have to be the best artist on /ic/, you just have to be the best artist in whichever /vg/ generals you frequent.

>>5175694
Good advice actually.

>>5175687
I might have been that anon, were you posting a DnD character? Anyway, they all look good! Keep it up

>>5175365
>Beginner at art
>Skips fundamentals and immediately starts drawing coom with derp faces
Many such cases.

Completely new to drawing and art altogether here. Serious question, is the Loomis advice actually good or is it another 4chan hazing of newfags like download more RAM or how to make crystals actually being poisonous gas?

>>5175696
Nah, I posted pic related

>>5175707
Ah, well, in any case— looks good!

>>5175697

You can lead a beg to the sticky but you can't make him read

>>5175707
thanks :)

>>5175705
Well, unlike the two examples you used, practicing Loomis won’t fuck you or kill you. Either you try it and it works or it doesn’t, the stakes aren’t very high as there isn’t much to be gained or lost. I learned Loomis head for fundies and it helped a little bit but eventually I picked up other stuff and learned my own way of going about things. I’m no pro, but everyone had their methods. Try it, if you don’t like it for reasons other than “it’s too hard” then move to something else and keep grinding.

>>5175705

Figure Drawing for all it's Worth and Drawing the Head and Hands are genuinely good books that have been used and referenced for a fairly long time. Fun with a Pencil is also decent for people who are brand new to drawing and have trouble grasping the idea of construction and drawing volumes. Even Japanese artists talk about Loomis. He turned into a meme because the books were public domain at one point, making them the most obvious and frequently recommended resource.

There are definitely a lot more options than just Loomis, like Jack Hamm, Vilppu, Morpho, Hampton, Hogarth, etc that you will eventually want to explore, but I think the Loomis books are very good for teaching basic human proportions and construction in a way that's not too intimidating. Also out of a lot of the figure books I still think Loomis heads are some of the more appealing ones.

>>5175716
meant for
>>5175712

>>5175680
>>5175677
>we have 2
Cool

>>5175680
>>5175677
>we have 2
Cool

>>5175794
>>5175796
>>5175793
>>5175793
>>5175791
>>5175790
>>5175787
>>5175780
fact: you will never be a woman

>>5175791
You gon eat that?

>>5175800
BASED DUBS

I just finished working through Keys to Drawing and I really want to jump into Bridgman, is he too advanced for a beginner or can I still get something out of it?

When you draw broken lines, is it all about varying pencil pressure while drawing a normal line? Or are you really just drawing each part individually?

>>5175822
What do you mean by broken lines? Can you show an example?

So I downloaded a oil painting/textured brushes pack and there are so many of them with different textures and sizes. How do I know which one should even use to start painting?

>>5175658
use hard round brush

i dont know hor to draw lower legs :(

>>5175866

>>5175877
in general bodies and hands are hard

Any glaring issues with these?
>>5175878
I feel you man. Grinding gestures helped me understand bodies a bit better.

>>5175658
hard round brush

>>5175882
i should do some gestures then :)

drawing skulls

>>5175899

>>5175819

I think with Bridgman, some of the drawings are so calligraphic and vague, it can be hard to understand unless you're already somewhat familiar with muscles. It depends on the particular plate. I got constructive anatomy back when I first started and copying out of it made me a lot better at drawing accurately but I can't say I was able to learn much from it at the time. Jeff Watts is currently working on a book series that's just him cleaning up the Bridgman books to make them easier to understand, so that should tell you something. For a beginner, Hampton's book is good, the Morpho simplified forms book, the Loomis books, Vilppu, Jack Hamm, Hogarth etc.

>>5175658

Lasso tool and paint bucket

making a silly comic

trust me it does not go where you think it goes

Okay so I paint my grayscale values. What layer blending mode should I use for the color layer above it if I'm planning on painting the grayscale into color? Literally 'color' blending mode? Hard light? Multiply?

>>5175959

Depends on the program, should be colour or hue. Hard light will lighten and multiply will darken.

>>5175957
Tell me, where do you think that I think it will go?

What are you guys practicing today?

Should i train my patience or should i focus on doing more with less?

>>5175968
he attempts to replace the stylus nib but fumbles and spills them on the floor, losing them in the thick carpet. coupled with the poor lighting underneath the desk, this turns into quite a frustration.

>>5175365
I have put in to much time to still be drawing this shit. How the hell do I improve! I don't want to be this shit next year.

>>5176016
>>5175968

lol i'll just dump the sketch version of the comic

hope its legible enough

>>5175996
Heads and figure

Finished the WIP from the last page.

>>5175479
Isn’t it better to have the axis of the box be in alignment with the construction lines of the face?

I've been trying to get better, i've been drawing something complete everyday for a week so far and... I've gotten used to drawing everyday but now I actually wanna improve... What do you think I should work on, /ic/? I think today I'll do some gesture drawing and focus on making progress for the book "keys to drawing" from bert dodson and do a landscape with a cute girl in it or something...

here's my twitter with all of my drawings of the month so far, there's a few retweets there but I don't spam them: https://twitter.com/Gutsybuster

I'm very grateful for any thoughts or comments....

>>5176056
Very fun and cute work but you need to start indicating form and some level of three dimensionality. That's why people often recommend starting with realism.

>>5176069
That's kind of an awesome thing to say, and something that was so far away from my mind.

What would you recommend I do to achieve that? Any books or tips?

>>5175438
Like the other anon said it might help to use the lines as guides for drawing boxes and then place the head inside. Something like this basically (sorry the faces look jank I rushed it)

Honestly I don’t think Loomis drawing the head and hands is very friendly for beginners. I’ve been making better progress with the video courses like Huston’s constructive head drawing

>>5176022

Sketch a lot and put an emphasis on studying books and good artwork. Draw to learn, have a plan and a goal, don't just noodle. Keep at it every day and find as much time as you can to draw. If you have 15 minutes to watch a video you have time to do 3 5 minute figure drawings. Take care of your wrist. Something I think that really took me too long to realize, you have to sit down and go at the books hard. Really memorize that shit. If you open up a Loomis book, doodle some of the stuff, and then you don't look at it again for a week cause you're just trying to draw anime coom from your imagination, you're not learning. Copy it out over and over and over and over, get some photos and try to apply that shit to something from reference, if you don't remember it, go back to studying it. The end product of that process is that it's in your brain well enough that it shows in your creative work that's done without reference. If you want to be creative, put an emphasis on sketching mountains of stuff, construction, and perspective, build that visual library. Buy a sketchbook and fill it. If you aren't filling pages with sketches on a daily basis something is wrong.

Study books, study an artist you want to emulate, try to apply what you learn to photo practice, repeat for years. Watch people draw on youtube and try to emulate what they're doing.

How is this, so far?

>>5176023
Not bad, although I did see where it was going once they started talking. Also, hope you're not working from these pictures. In case you don't have a scanner you can pick one up used for like $10.

>>5175365
Starting Loomis’ figure drawing

>>5176141

>>5176141
How come you’re using deleter paper for unfinished practice?

>>5176223
You can't just heckin shade it when it says not to!

>>5176253
I like it, though you should work on the connection between the neck and shoulders.
Also is the ref Lucy from Fairy Tail?

>>5176015
>that leg
anon, wtf?!

>>5176323
Ya. I’m trying to become more comfortable with anatomy and perspective digitally before committing to larger work traditionally, it’s been a little intimidating compared to digital, I think my book is kinda small too. As for the neck to traps I’m not actually sure how to go about improving that, I tend to use real human anatomy as reference often to learn when I’m drawing out full bodies

>>5176141
rookie mistake, you forgot her dick!

>>5176253
it is a little flat

>>5176247
You mean it looks like I'm guessing at the shading?

when do i start being not shit at circles

How does one achieve this 80s look? I'm not talking about the actual drawing, but the washed out, slightly fuzzy look. Is it all post processing effects and filters? Whenever I draw with really thin lines it looks like shit but I think this is pretty cool.

>>5176338
>I tend to use real human anatomy as reference
That's good, but you can also use artists as refs once you get comfortable enough with anatomy. It will help you learn to simplify/stylize the body so it doesn't clash with your anime heads.
Those boobs are way to the side by the way.

>>5176353
I didn't really mean anything. Sorry.

How do you get the motivation to practice with references? Whenever I want to draw it's always stuff from imagination, but then I run into the problem of not being able to draw the stuff I like well enough.

>got too invested in drawing and pooped my pants again
Goddammit how do you guys deal with this?

>>5176400
I usually copy the pose of a reference but change shit up like putting arms in different positions or making it a robotic arm or changing their clothing/appearance/items. It makes studying references a lot more fun.

>>5176389
The boobs were kind of an after thought but yeah
I do sometimes get told "stop drawing anime" when all I do is draw anime faces but I still try to study real faces and bodies, and stylize it how I want to draw.
Sometimes I feel like my creativity is what holds me back too because then I fail at composing a picture. I probably just need to keep failing. I wanna be able to draw nice manga pages one day, there's so much to learn
>>5176400
Just learn to deviate from the reference. Draw it at a different angle and move things around. If you want to learn more you gotta do it

>>5175996
gesture and some construction from hampton course

>>5176416
Where do you get your reference photos if you don't mind me asking?

>>5176426
bodiesinmotion.photo free stuff

>>5176398
No problem :)

>>5176082
I learned it from figure drawing and Karl Gnass lectures, but dynamic sketching with Peter Han and drawabox are two other good resources that I find more exciting to use for learning form and perspective for indicating volume. Later on down the road you could look at the How to Draw book from Scott Robertson, but that has a somewhat advanced industrial design bend that can make it hard to get the good nuggets of information for someone not familiar with that kind of stuff.

Good work though! Your stuff has a lot of heart!

>Want to draw but never want to practice
>Decide to draw niche fetish stuff as practice
>Found 1000x easier and made the most improvements due to nitpicking like crazy
>Basically impossible to get feedback without joining one of the degenerate communities
It feels like I've crossed the point of no return.

>>5176473
You can get feedback if you post it here instead of a wojak image

>>5176384
when you get your hand fused to your radius and ulna

Perspective practice seems fun once you get the hang of it. Still listening to marshalls lecture while taking notes

>>5176510
are you suggesting i try keeping my wrist more steady or are you simply being cheeky?

Did some fan art to practice fire and lighting. Any tips for painting\rendering fire?

>>5176526
ayo katsunei how's it hanging

>>5176554

>>5176557
one of your... fans.

Recent work, trying to get back into art, any resources for better digital coloring or maybe even rendering anybody could recommend?

not finished but idk if i will

>>5176338
no input on the question but based on the sketchbook picture i feel like YGMI and your handwriting is also very similar to mine.

>>5175882
did you use refs? middle looks like sheeit and the left one the shoulders are to wide and i think the lower body should be larger, her pelvis is s bit small imo

>>5176608
This is way too harsh. I think they're all quite good with some minor adjustments needed.

>>5176610
He's right though. It's pretty apparant that the anon didn't use refs, the anatomy is very misinformed in all three
practice makes perfect though so keep at it

>>5176566
AHHHHHHHHH IM GONNA COOOOOM

>Shade every outer edge, no defined light source
>Smudge with thumb
>Elderly relatives and normies from my town tell me I'm a master
Feelsgoodman. Stop posting online and be a local celebrity for your trash.

>>5176629
>have to trick old people for dopamine
Oof

>>5176621
Yes but I want to know how to get better at coom.

>>5176630
I don't come to Burger King and smack the dick out of your mouth

forced to use a dogshit 7 year old computer can hardly run photoshop. Never buy a windows laptop for anything. Those things crash after a year.Now I have to wait a week or longer for it to be fixed.

>>5176621
Cool. Any actual crit, dumbass?

>>5176608
>did you use refs?
Yeah I wanted to try something different and use art as a ref instead of a real person. Obviously I need to learn much more.
>>5176610
Nah, harsh is good sometimes. Better than a hugbox.

resized. I hate my life :)

>>5176635
looks like shit and you'll never create anything beautiful you stupid dumb motherfucker cum-for-brains shitstain

>>5176646
Pyw, cunt

>>5176643
Now draw kaine with a huge dick before I do it

>>5176651
why? because I called out your shitty coombrain art? I don't need to be a great cinema director to critique movies and neither do I need to be a great artist to critiqur shitty art

If you want proper critique then post something INTERESTING and/or technically imoressive instead of just COOMA BOOBA HUMMINA HUMMINA AWOOGA

stupid fucking subhuman

>>5176670
OP here, you're talking to someone else. I don't have any issue with it being called coom, was just looking for recommendations to improve. But whatever, go ahead and battle it out I guess.

>>5176670
Stay mad, crab. I get comms.

>>5176680
Isn't me.
>>5176670
You're just pissed you're shit at art and I'm pretty good. Maybe fuck off if you can't do better, faggot.

>>5176566
Is that the daughter from Kangoku Senkan 2? Automatically good.

are the arms look OK

>>5176686
Yeah, Maya Cordelia.

>>5176685
>>5176681
>>5176680
get back to drawing furry scat diaper porn you disgusting subhumans, your third world bills won't pay themselves AND you will never create anything beautiful

<- you

Do the arms look okay-ish at least?

Stop fighting and draw

>>5176689
do you have any other works with lieri or other LiLiTH characters like Taimanin or annerose

>>5176697
No but I'd be happy to draw some more if you have any requests, got into the games recently due to AT.

>>5176692
Looks okay proportion wise, on the nun on the side I think her arm goes back too far thought from the bicep up and at the shoulder it seems kinda disconnected but that could just be the way you drew the clothes, still pretty nice.

>>5176714
bad

>>5176714
cute, it would look interesting with dip pens

do you need to know MATH in order to draw? I'm dysclaculistic

I feel like I'm completely blind to any sort of angle or scale. I'm legit retarded.

tried to draw fabric. What do you think?

croquis cafe excercises from last oct and today.
Am I getting worse?

>>5176714
Dont do hatching like that

I need to study hair. Opinions?

>>5176794
the fabric around the middle-left chest area is on the right track, the rest however feels very flat and looks like you are trying to overwhelm the viewer into a sense of form by chicken scratching the edges of the wrinkles

try imagining the object you are wrapping fabric around as a 3d shape and then draw CONFIDENT lines for the wrinkle edges

>>5176780
I have real trouble with eyes and head-to-body ratio

>>5176767
Jealous
>>5176799
Why?

>>5176838
They look like big hairy lines on her. Go for it if that's what you want

>>5176794
>>5176714
looks nice

>>5176691
Cry more

>>5176805
are you >>5176798
?

>>5176847
no

how the fuck do you retards draw i don t undesratnd ive been p[uttikng lines down for the past 5 hours and it still lookis like shit

How do you even approach a figure like this for gesture? It's in a video by NMA and I can't get past it, let alone draw it in one minute.

>>5176598
This is a cool design

>>5176899
Maybe because you didnt spend any time at all on your construction, and the construction you did do you didn't even follow it.

>>5176908
I’d draw a touch curve of her back using flat lines. Then I’d refine a bit, draw a torso and eyeball it, place the arms and then the rest. Afterwards it’s just a matter of refining over and over again.

>>5176152
?

>>5176157
Just trying to use up all my supplies because I plan to go digital

>>5176344
?

>>5176994
The shoulders above and the head being obscured seriously fucks with me, but thanks for the reply

>>5176994
the fuck is a 'touch curve'

>>5176908
this actually seems like a really easy gesture to capture, her body is constricted in a way that provides itself to really easily defining her form with C and S curves. Who's method are you using?

>>5176908
I have It a shot quickly

>>5177003
Rough memory mix of Steve Huston and Vilppu.. Frankly this was my first time doing some serious timed figure drawing in a while. I have an easier time with more plain figures instead of something a bit more complicated.

>>5176995
>just trying to using up supplies
? You can do both trad and digital unless you just don't enjoy the process of traditional. Just odd to see branded paper meant for comic inking to be wasted like that but you be you

>>5177025
>memory mix
first off, don't 'memory mix', go back and review how they do their gesture to get it down for sure. vilpuu especially really does a good job of portraying how lines should flow through a gesture
second, don't mix. pick a method and try to stick to it

>>5177035
I always ink it once I've ironed out all the errors. The paper is wasted if my attempt is too garbage to salvage, I admit that.

hey /beg/ so I spent two months doing only lines and circles, why am I not good at drawing yet?

>>5177070
>digital

>>5177074
Trad is for dorks

I did a shitty job with making the nips xD

>>5177045
I'll try too, I'm all over the place. I really, really like Steve huston's approach to gesture since it's less theory based but he doesn't have as many videos as Vilppu. Vilppu's vids are a bit too long winded for me, but I'll see what I can do.

for some reason it's so much harder to do complex poses with anime then it is to with traditionally drawn characters.

>>5176954
Thanks

Is learning anatomy depressing? I'm starting engineering classes again and I don't wanna burn out on drawing but I want to learn anatomy since I haven't drawn anything in a couple weeks

>>5176908
i gave this one a shot using my fat idiot coomer ngmi method :3

>>5177074
Am I ngmi?

>>5177097
bro what the fuck

>>5177070
i should probably do that too. Did your hand skill improve? I tried to use a screenless tablet the other day and it felt like trying to draw with my left hand. I hate it because having precision with the lines is so hard, but it's better than screen tablet (you can draw more upright, further from the screen, etc)

>>5176908
gave it a 2 min crack too fuck it
important to remember you aren't trying to copy the picture, but capture the gesture on paper, so dont so much stress replicating the photo perfectly
this is probably how far i'd take it before moving on to boxes + cylinders and all that fun shit

>>5176908
gave it a 2 min crack too fuck it
important to remember you aren't trying to copy the picture, but capture the gesture on paper, so dont so much stress replicating the photo perfectly
this is probably how far i'd take it before moving on to boxes + cylinders and all that fun shit

>>5177112
Thanks, this is helpful! Having the head obscured by hair and the shoulders/arms in the way made it hard to see the curve of the ribcage but this pic made it clearer. Thanks bro!

>>5177116
np bro

I CAN:T FORESHORTEN I:M GOING TO KILL MY SELF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>5177097
uh bro?
just do a doohinkus over it?

>>5176908
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM GONNA COOOOO0O0O0M0OOM0M0OOM0O0O0O0O0O0 WAAGGGJJHHHHHJHH COOOMMIMINNGGG

>>5177129
learn perspective loser

>>5177099
>>5177132
i cannot for the life of me control this drawing tablet :(

>>5177129

>>5177100
im yanking your ass anon, I barely even do those fuck that. I generally do them if I havent drawn for a couple of days.
if your wondering what garbage I draw heres something from a couple days ago

I'm working through an anatomy course and did a lesson on the head and its proportions, I got a good bit of the way towards having it good but it was overall pretty monkey-like. Should I focus on refining my skull and placement of parts over it or would it maybe be better to continue to the next lessons about drawing the eyes, nose, etc and try to improve as I go along? Drawing skulls is pretty fun but not as much when they don't turn out exactly the way I picture them so I'm wondering if it's ok to continue to not burn out. I guess the worst case is that it looks shitty for longer?

>>5177137
thats normal bro
when I was learning how to draw on a android phone, I had to trace a shitload of images just do my fingers can get use to it and i can sorta estimate precision despite using my fat pointy and fuck you finger to draw.
if you ain't enjoying this study with D/ic/K or find it too tedious go do that and get used it first and get a better feel of your tool

Guys, what’s wrong with my frog?

>>5177153

>>5177147
nothing wrong with that, just try to do some finished drawings and see what comes out

>>5177154
it needs to REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
also it looks very blurry in general. I can't feel the form unless you inteded that
also it needs to REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>5177154
FROGGLER

>>5177085
Why her nips are blurry

>>5177085
So what was the point of tracing this days ago only to do an even shittier job coloring it

>>5177197
>>5177201
Again, I don't know how to draw nips. Those were added in at the last minute. Here's a version with an improvised shirt.

>>5177201
And I do have a base lineart version of it, but I'm completely at a dead end on how to color it.

>>5177205
>>5177206
Ok but what was the point of doing it? It doesn't look like it was fun nor seems like a learning experience. Of course you don't know how to color it

how do I make shine on blackhaired characters

>>5177212
Well for me the base tracing is fun. I'm very unskilled at drawing as is, so it gives me a bit of incentive to learn more.

I'm also a bit of a coomer, so tracing pics that resemble certain people is another fun thing for me.

>>5177219
I see. The art style looks like Wikihow, I cant imagine that resembling a person

>>5177214
AHHHHHHHHHHH I WANNA FUG AN ANIME GIRL

>>5177225
I can't unsee that now xD

But I should mention that it was over a year ago when I made that image. I could probably do a better one now.

>>5177089
cute tomoko

>>5177214
oh baby i wanna fuggin coooooooooom hot doga woopsie animeeeeeeeeee

>>5177100
Same anon here, just use it as a fancy mouse instead of your actual mouse by the time you decide to draw you'll feel more confident in using it. If you feel like its not enough then do those exercises. Just dont get discouraged and just draw more shit with your device, you should feel comfortable within less than a month

>>5177085
booba

May from guilty gear. Don't know where to place the anchor..

should i continue or erase?

>>5176629
PYW please. Want be same, needs for refs. Or it's simply pillow shading?

Fish

>>5177332
Regular old pillow shading. Make sure to erase a bright white highlit on the eyes and a tooth.

>>5177314
Looks decent but the arms are short little Auschwitz arms and the calf muscle has no indication

>>5176479
he is probably larping

>>5177461
Why would someone LARP like that, in /beg/ too of all places.

>>5176714
at first I thought that she was full of bruises and with blood coming out of her mouth.

>>5176776
>do you need to know MATH in order to draw?
of course, how else would you draw?

>>5177070
> why am I not good at drawing yet?
your lines and circles look fine to me

>>5177214
beg here, I would hue shift the hair color instead of using white

>>5177311
>Don't know where to place the anchor..
just thumbnail it until you find something you like

>>5177314
erase, unless you are just doing it for fun.

>>5177469
for the (you)s of course, this is one of the fastest threads here.

>>5175806
keep it up man! not bad

>>5176714
Use line width to show darkness for coom. I also thought she was bruised and dripping blood out of her mouth at first, would of been hotter if she was.

After getting into Hades i got a tat idea of Spot found a 3dmodel of a dog skull but something looks off, and i cant put my finger on it. im not used to drawing from life/image

>>5177769

>>5177625
draw the direction of the light on top anon, it makes no sense.
The bounce light sits in the shadow where ambient occlusion should happen, and you have ambient occlusion (or at least darks) on the right side bottom of the egg where bounce light should happen.

Do it again. This time consider the light source position carefully, and draw a line from the lightsource to object and continue the line to the ground, to figure out where the shadow is cast.

>>5177769
ref

>>5175854
this is nice

>>5176038
not beg go away

>>5177554
AHHHH WATAMOTE COOOOM

>>5176141
Nice drawing anon you practically borderline int

My first landscape. I've always hated drawing anything but people because I feel like it turns out shit, but I actually think I did ok this time. It's a lot softer than I'd like and I had trouble with the mountain sides. I don't like the colors. What do you think? Drawing the tiny details was really fun. Also, I noticed the color is drastically more saturated on my 1080p monitor compared to my 4k monitor. I hope it looks good on your computer. Is there a way to make sure a painting will look good on any or at least most monitors?

>>5177780
>t. easily impressionable beg

>>5177804
pretty good aside from the mountains

>>5177804
there is a tank in the clouds?

>>5177780
why the fuck are you even on this board? you obviously have no idea about drawing. Either pick up a pencil and draw or leave this board you retarded piece of shit

>>5177780
I would be happy to leave but whenever someone tells me to leave beg, another group of people jump in and tell me the work isn't good and that I should stay or implies it. So I don't know what to do at this point. I'm sorry the other people are shitting on you.

>>5177804
Yeah, your colors do suck. The whole thing has an awful tint.
Seeing as you think it looks like shit on your own monitors, they probably aren't completely fucked in terms of color though. If you want decent accuracy, get an x-rite colorimeter.

How do you into foreshortening? It's so hard

>>5177839
Supposed to be a giant space ship in orbit.

How bad is it anons? Tried to embrace the anime pill.

Practiced my line work. Some anon recommended Mark Brunet's videos on the subject and that really helped but I still feel like I don't grasp suggested lines, maybe better anatomy will help.

Critiques are welcome.

>>5177962
Looks pretty good. Legs seem a bit too long though.

How do you guys sort out your art folders?
Probably need to organize mine a bit better, it's got way too many folders and categories

>>5177979
Solid job, my only advice would be. The lines you used to define the body should be thinner, closer together, and rounded to the form of the muscle they're defining by shading.

>>5177983
thanks pal. Yeah I've got a problem with making legs too long because I'm a giant so I'm used to seeing it on me and my family.

>>5176805
Check out this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryfKO3_ZJxg
He uses the Reilly method and goes into how he goes about constructing the hair.

Do these proportions look off?
>>5177979
I've seen some artists save the thickest lines for the outer contours and use thin lines for details like muscles. Of course what you have isn't bad by any means.

>>5178002
On your first sketch the left leg seemed a bit small as well as its point of origin seemed off. The legs on the other two seem small as well also the hip to ribs proportions make them look very unattractive, however that might just be how the model looks like (can you post the source). I'm really digging the line quality though

wtf is this shit
https://www.skillshare.com/classes/Portrait-Drawing-Course-Learn-Beginner-Head-Drawing-Techniques/593238985

I was about to cancel my skillshare sub and I came across this and this guy guy is 100% just rehashing Huston's NMA course but not only is he doing that but in the exact same fashion and presentation. It's like he removed Huston himself and just replace himself as the speaker and drawer. How is this allowed?

>artists I look up to followed me back
I think I'm gmi gentlemen

>>5178053
looks sick!

>>5177991
>>5178002
Thanks! I should probably be a bit more sparing with the hatching lines as well as work on choosing there the thickness should be. Shit like that comes with practice I guess.

>>5175438
Up a head.

>>5178100
Also fuck you, John. I'm better than you,

>>5175438
Loomis isn't even a good thing for artists to study if you're not going to be making 1950s men all the time. Just work with what you're actually going to be doing if you want to get better. That's why I draw anime heads and bodies, why practice something I'm not going to do? Nobody even looks like that anymore btw.

>>5177911
I use references.

>>5177931
is it suppose to be on the edge of the horizon? like a sunset.

>fresh beg
>do the igor stravinsky
>still symbol drawing up the ass

any exercises/books that i can drill out symbol drawing with?

>>5177573
no

>>5177962
05/10 - the composition is fine, but the execution isn't, nothing there looks like a 3d object that exist in space

>>5178163
Nobody here cares about symbol drawing outside of the face. Just get your faces right and they will gush over your pigeon toed coomer bodies

>>5177979
do the gluteus behave like that when the leg bend back?

t. beglet

>>5177988
do you mean your own art or references?

>>5178164
ok

I don't do much figure drawing but I felt inspired today

>>5178042
Thanks, here's the reference. Omitted the arms to focus on the torso, but I can see I messed up details like the hips.

dunno why it happens, but since i've picked up drawing a coupla months ago it does something incredible to my brain and it's like my attention span improved tenfold

>>5178157
I couldn't find a good reference for it. Yeah, it's supposed to be near the horizon. Like the moon when seen during the day. I'm realizing now that I should have used that as a reference.

tried to put colors above a raw sketch, but seems that i ruined it.

>>5178205
then that is fucking massive ship. depending how far it is you could use the death star images as references.

>>5178178
Don't reply to me.

Still practicing digital painting, been staring at this for too long and need some feedback. Also should I make the hips bigger or not? I'm too used to drawing big tits that i think i've made her quite top heavy :/

I may be grossly retarded but Scott Robertson is really making my brain hurt with this shit
This isn't my first foray into perspective but I've been told How to Draw is the best resource, but his teachings just aren't permeating my thick skull. He's using all this terminology I've never heard anyone else use and talking about camera lense angles and glass grids and all this shit and it's just flooring me

Why do my draft always end up unappealing? What Is wrong with my fundies and what should I study?

Hi guys. /biz/ poster here.
I fucked up the shadow on this so the colours look dead but lmk what you think.

>>5178292
Im beg myself but I think the percpective on the front guys leg and arm is a bit off so it's bordering on that uncanny valley feeling. Also just generally it looks really busy and even though its a sketch its pretty unclear as to whats going on. It looks a lot like a random sketch book page and not a sketch for an illustration. The poses also look a bit stiff but im not sure what style your going for because realism is just gonna be kinda stiff but if you're going for more anime/cartoon maybe exagerate some things like have the back leg go back further and taper out more and have the front leg face the camera more.

Honestly though It's looking pretty solid I'd just say to push things a bit more because it looks a bit boring.

>>5178297
Another /biz/ poster here.
Shut the fuck up doge shill with this useless shitcoin. What the fuck you have done to this normiememe? Are you retarded? 95% is controlled by whales, oh my FUCKING god. Get the fuck out to plebbit and never place your foot on this soil. Go shill elsewhere, faggot.

>>5175957
>Pen nib growing short
>"fuck i need to buy new ones"
>See this
>be reminded of the pocket
>2 nibs non used in there

Thank you provvidential anon for countering my retard-ness

>>5178301
fella i don't own doge. I just drew it because I hoped it would get popular due to the doge pump.

It did not.

>>5178173
Can't say it's 100% anatomically accurate since I didn't use a reference but I've often seen papa Vilppu do the gluteus in a similar way, plus, I like the way it looks stylistically since it implies which direction the legs are coming at.

>>5178280

>>5178304
>It did not.
bruh!

>>5176023
heh, nice one anon

>>5177999
thank you, ill watch it

What’re you studying today beg!

>>5177795
Thanks.

Any serious mistakes?

>>5175957
The guy ends up with spaghetti in his urethra, calling it.

>>5178433
head is too squished vertically. The back of the head needs to be longer

>>5178421
I drew like 300 circles to check whether it did anything like the drawabox people pretend.

I got slightly better at drawing circles but I still think that place is a cult

am i figure drawing correctly. i still don't completely understand how it works or what my takeaway is supposed to be. i just wanna be able to reference poses decently without my version of them looking like stiff shit.

>>5178292
There's this whole meme about cutting your image in 9 parts and putting the important parts around the corners, maybe you can make it more interesting by moving stuff around.

Also, that pose looks weird in context.

>>5178445
Thanks anon, will try to fix that

>>5178327
any actual feedback?

>>5175438
Get a sphere (a real life sphere or similar object) and draw it about five hundred times. Even better if its a skull.

>>5178540
not him also havent started painting, but dont pillow shade anon, do cell shading instead

>>5178540
Not that guy, but you should work on the face. Even if it is unfinished the eyes are a bit jarring. And maybe this is just personal preference, but the slight suggestion of the nasolabial folds makes Jill look like an middle aged lady.
The painting looks muddy, but that will improve with practice.

>>5176908
fucked the leg up but here's my attempt

im trying to do studies more and i was hoping someone could tell me how they study? like do you just try to work out shapes into the study? the values more or just trying to make it as realistic as possible?

Maybe wrong thread for wrong question, but... Can a half-drawn figure without clothes but also without *those things* (but with D+ cups) be considered NSFW? Need I mark practice sketches as 18+? On which step of figure construction I need put on a swimsuit to hold it SFW?

>>5178991
your asking if nude figures are NSFW? If you don't draw the genitals than it should be fine.

aaaa those legs turned out funny as hell

We're all gonna make it, the secret ingredient is love...

>>5179018
Bruh Wtf are you doing

Can i ask for graphic design critique here? Even if it's just comp advice. I know the focus here is illustrative work and i respect that. I have few art peers and i cant stand instagram.

>>5179021
I'm trying to fill vilppu's 50% draw by imagination quota

>>5178905
For me personally I start thumnailing sketches pick a few and black them out into silhouettes then add 3 values. Blow it up a little and lasso shape carve till it looks right this also elimimates the aliasing from scaling it up. Ill really work out the values and do layers of gradient maps to get a rough idea of color.

>>5179025
don't see why not, worth posting to >>>/gd/ as well but that board is dead as fuck so don't expect a lot

I need advice on positioning.

This is a drawing a made some months ago when I was still drawing by hand, now I'm in the process of making digital versions of all my old drawings.

I think the positioning was OK but I don't want to repeat it. Plus I'm adding an extra body to the page.

1/2

>>5179074
I need to add a second transformation and I want to add it to the center, but I don't know what would look best.

Should I make it full body, or just half body, I was thinking to make it big and use it as background but the whole ''transformation'' happens in the arms and hair so I need to make those at least very visible.

>>5179020
:)

>>5176908
My approach, it's 2 min but the majority was already there at the 1 min mark.
(never made a webm before hope this isn't too terrible)

>>5176908
>>5179139
cool beans that actually worked.
2nd part sped up a little.

new thread
>>5179168
>>5179168
>>5179168

>>5178459
>should I make the hips bigger or not?
I think it is fine, but you can make it bigger want

>i've made her quite top heavy
she looks like a at maximum a c cup to me

I can't tell where her right elbow is.

>>5179183
meant to
>>5178280

>>5178288
do you have a question or you are just venting?

>>5178292
what you do find appealing? and why?

>>5179020
s2

>>5179081
try making some thumbnails

>>5179139
>>5179158
Really awesome. Thanks for this, I'm the OP of that post. Who did you use to learn gesture?

>>5176056
Cute lots of soul

>>5179293
Mostly read/ watch vilppu and proko and then practice a lot using gesture as a warmup before doing anything else.
Secondly maybe dabble with a lot of different approaches like: michael hampton, tim gula, steve huston, karl gnass. I think theres a lot you can learn by looking at a bunch of different approaches and learning what fundamentally remains the same across the board.

>>5179592
I have watched alot of steve huston, he really appeals to me the most. I've only seen a bit of Gnass, too. But I'll try broaden and maybe stick to something for a week. Thank you again!

How tf do I start?