/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

How do you draw rocks?

>>5171337
Ahem:
>Not enough contrast on the body, it is a blurry unreadable mess
>Hair sticks out too far from the head before falling, like she has a stick or something holding it up, it should be slanting down a lot sooner.

>>5171349
Bad pose, the head could be seen as being on backwards because there is not enough depth and commitment to the perspective of the body.

>>5171352
>>5171337
Tried to add contrast and flatten the hair is it looking any better?

>>5171462
seems like you understand occlusion but I think the hair strands are way to literal and a bit too thick IMO

critique?
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Did a character for a dnd campaign.
Can i have some of your opinions on what to work on? I'm still heavily reliant on references

>>5171496
>that face
Also just leave out the ghost boob. Looks better that way

>>5171496
>>5171458
>>5171492
>>5171503
Yeah, control your attitude sperg

>>5171507
It's just an on-model face. Have you seen Evangelion?
>leave out the ghost boob
Well, I wanted to create a sense of movement. But t.b.h., yes, I'm not too happy with it either, so I might nuke it
>>5171508
Ok Mr. Cop

>>5171474
>>5171462
Does any one have any tips on rendering hair then? I struggle with it a lot when it comes to digital painting

>>5171514
>on model face
>have you seen this anime that consists of thousands of wonky frames
Lmao

>>5171514
That's absolutely not on-model

>>5171529
>>5171528
Ok, can you explain what's wrong with the face besides it being not on-model?

>>5171530
Incorrect perspective and unappealing symbol drawing with ugly grey lines. Go ahead and post the referenced face of misato.

I’m finished with this piece and I’m not gonna go back to fix it, this was my first time using water color and the first time I’ve finished anything art related in a while. I just feel like such a piece of shit every time I look at my own art. What should I work on to improve?

>>5171548
>symbol drawing
Well, naturally, it's an anime-style drawing
>unappealing
Well, thanks for nothing.

>>5171553
Can’t even post my fucking art right LMAO

>>5171523
go with a more suggestive approach for the hair idk. It really depends on the style you're trying to achieve. Find an artist who really impresses you and study hard maybe dedicate a whole day just to hair rendering. Something will eventually stick. Here's how I approach it in the sketch phase but it might not exactly work for the style you're going for.

>>5171548
put a little more care into it, bro. That's all.

>>5171554
Anime symbols have more to them than just drawing shit thats close enough and calling it a day, please look at anime stylized features more closely and compare it to your own to see the difference.

>>5171501
Add some more color to everything, you’ll find color on skin tones that you wouldn’t expect, but it adds a lot more life. Don’t shade with blacks/greys and highlight with whites (you haven’t exactly done that but I feel like it might head in that direction). Shade with colors. I.e. If you highlight with a light blue, use a deep version the opposite color to shade (red), and vice versa. Add bounce light, it’s fun to play with. Look into composition, it helps with gesture in posture. Anatomy looks okay to me, just keep learning what you can anon! Have fun!

>>5171561
I never said I wanted to replicate the Evangelion style perfectly. And btw I used a photo ref for the pose and the face, so I don't think the perspective is incorect.

>>5171555
I really like it.

Sorry if you're fed with this shit, but I saw how many replies the other one got just now, and wanted to tell you, even if you may not really care, that this is the final version I came out with. Not the best, but not that bad either. Btw I moved the nose and mouth a little. Thank you all for those who gave some advice

>>5171571
Fuck... thank you anon, I appreciate you taking the time to say so

>>5171578
gmi

Critique on loomis head? I know something looks off but can't pin-point it.

>>5171584
you're being a bit too loose with the spherical guide shape to the left. The head is somewhat ''flat'' as a result and it's throwing you off.

>>5171584
I actually had the same problem for a long time so it’s hard for me to describe how I got out of this habit, since I couldn’t see it myself. But I think it’s the forehead, that little divet we add between the upper cheekbone and eyebrow bone. It’s too deep, sometimes the cheekbone juts out more than the forehead, and it cuts into the circle which I think is wrong? Begs trying to help begs lmao, but yeah try to draw a straight line from the end of the circle down to the chin and see how you feel about it without the divet. Sorry I can’t help more!

>>5171554
That's not an anime style drawing, thats tick and morty crap. You take critique very badly. How old are you.

>Digital painting tutorial
>'Paint some shapes, then paint the rest of the picture'
>Switches brushes without saying when or why they are
>Makes new layers without saying when or why they are
>Uses shortcuts and does shit without saying when or why they are
>'Just comes down to practice :)'
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>5171612
Never even watched Rick and Morty, and probably older than you, dumb crab. I take good good critique well, not shallow one like yours which is basically 'I can't fap to it, reee'.

>>5171627
You take critique like a 12 y.o

How am I doing with this? I suffer with proportions, perspective and the scale

>>5171635
And you critique like a12 y.o. Can't even form a coherent argument, just repeating buzzwords.

>>5171612
Even if you could critique as well as you draw, you'd still be nowhere.

>>5171644
>>5171648
Breathe

>>5171652
Ok, zoomer

>>5171644
You want some constructive criticism? Or do you want someone to hold your hand all the way through fixing it after they tell you what looks fucked up in your drawing? People have told you that the face looks bad, and instead of taking the criticism you requested, you argued by saying it’s ‘on model’ so it can’t be messed up.

Anyone can tell that you skipped over/skimmed/failed to grasp the basics of anatomy, gesture, shading, color theory, and composition. They’re easy to search up and most of it is fun to learn, so stop arguing with retards on 4chan about whether or not your anime waifu looks like Woody from Toy Story and start grinding.

>>5171642
The fact that I can’t tell if she is very small or if she is just far away is problem number one. I can tell that she is further from the camera, but that’s about it. It might be easier to help if we knew what you were going for.

>>5171671
Yeah this.

>>5171652
bite cock

>>5171676
Supposed to be shes infront of the human and looking up at him. Its supposed to be a goblin/halfing person (so roughly half the size of a human, 5ish heads tall?) . Perspective is fucking my brain, i think.

>>5171496
This is fucking awful.

>>5171624
Just use the roundbrush, brah lmoa

>>5171496
not that bad i just think the face ruins it

remaking (basically tracing digitally) one of my old highschool artworks from 2010 before i became a coomer moron. I was so wholesome then~!

>>5171698
I think background is the only thing that can establish the perspective right here. Anatomy looks fine. If you want to have some fun with it, place the ‘camera’ close to or right behind the humans shoulder, so shes looking up coyly at the audience and the perspective is established more prominently. Just an idea, remember to take breaks when you need to!

>>5171714
Soulless vs. Soul.png

>>5171714
i thought right was from a childrens book before reading your post wtf
what happened anon

>>5171565
Thanks for the advice and explanations! I definitely need to work on colors and shading / highlighting a bunch more. I'll work hard on it and make you proud anon!

>>5171721

stress, drugs, failing out of college mostly was a huge thing I'm still rebuilding my life back from. (I did end up graduating, though it took 8 years)

>>5171723
Oh anon, you already have... (‘:

>>5171726
How old are you?

>>5171733
33. I spent 5 years in prison (I was on To Catch A Predator, but I'm not telling you who I am or which episode) and now I'm trying to just mellow out and stay out of trouble. Art used to help me do that. I'm really hoping I don't fall back into my old ways.

>>5171733

28. I also remade that illustration in 2017 btw

>>5171714
>that soulless digital tracing
NOOOOO
Anon, that painting on the right is pretty damn neat. I hope you start painting like that again because that digital tracing is giving me bad vibes.

How do I color like Shadman?

>>5171737
>>5171714
Jesus Christ, LITERALLY soul vs soulless.

>>5171553
Should I try to repost this the right way up so people can see it correctly or should I just drop it and get back on the ol’ dusty trail?

>>5171736
>I was on To Catch A Predator
I was not expecting that.

>>5171737
What happened? Was the first painting a fluke? What poisoned your mind to think the second was better?

>>5171745
It wouldn't hurt to try

>>5171737
>turns wholesome storybook painting into anime garbage
>gives the girl big tits
I take it this is around the time the coom took over?

>>5171718
Thank you! I like that idea. Ill save it for another piece.

>>5171496
>beginner at art
>skips all fundamentals and immediately tries to draw coom
many such cases

>>5171736
>I was on To Catch A Predator
What were your thoughts when Chris Hansen asked you to take a seat

>>5171763
At the time I had 3 years on 4chan and all the TCAP memes were still big and I legitimately thought I was dreaming at first. You never think it'll happen to you.

>>5171737
>>5171736
which of you niggers is lying

>>5171736
>>5171748
>>5171763

jesus christ thats not me, thats some troll you dumbasses

i was never on to catch a predator and im not 33, it got a good kek out of me but jesus christ people actually do fall some of the lamest BS

anyways i am going to recreate it digitally, but i'm going to do so soulfully

>>5171772

if you must know my only claim to fame is that i got street interviewed by infowars when i was in college

https://youtu.be/E5ycgLZM858?t=198

>>5171770
If only one was a namefag that posted his work.

>>5171772
>jesus christ people actually do fall some of the lamest BS
Well around 50% of the posts on 4chan are works of fiction while the other 50% are more real than reality itself. You can't really blame us for getting trolled by that anon.
>i am going to recreate it digitally, but i'm going to do so soulfully
Godspeed bro

>>5171751
I hope it works this time

I feel like I'll never be able to complete this.

>>5171557
>>5171474
>>5171352
Did some more work on it and its looking a lot better thank you for the advice :)

>>5171817
Then move on

Trad is oddly nostalgic

>>5171777
Wow you're fucking hot. Love how those pink shorts hug your thighs. Hnnngggghhhh

>>5171821
Keep going son

>>5171777
Well, are you a dumb slave?

>>5171821
Looks better

>>5171822
I want to finish it tho. i already give up way too easily on standard pics, I could at least color in a traced one.

>>5171777
oh no its retarded

>>5171835
Do it punk. I believe in you, just make sure you’re learning something the whole time and not stagnating trying to make it look really good. Even if it looks bad, learn from your mistakes and move to the next one. Stay light on your feet.

>>5171842
I do believe I can do it, I just dread having to do the line art. I don't have a drawing tablet to do it on either, I just use my note 9.

>>5171850
Wait did you draw the sketch with your finger on a phone then? Or what?

>>5171856
No, with it's built in stylus.

>>5171858
Why would doing lineart be bad then? Seems like it would be good to be able to draw right on the screen rather than using a non-screen tablet or something.

>>5171872
I'm absolutely dog shit at drawing anything that isn't traced. Line art is damn near impossible.

Uh moo

>>5171887
elongated coom torso syndrome
also arms are fucked

>>5171888
>critiquing proportion in an anime sketch
You're barking up the wrong tree. Also if the torso wasn't elongated her tits would be smacking her pussy when she ran.

>>5171802
Still looks really good. I love the colors specifically. Wish I could say something critical
>>5171821
much, much better, anon. The only trouble I see now is a silhouette problem. You really went for an ultra hard pose, huh? probably gmi at some point if you keep challenging yourself

>>5171817
>Abby
this has serious coom potential

>>5171903
That's okay, I don't mind critique. I do wish I could get direct help on how to fix the arms and hands that I draw though. I'd do better if I knew how. Ive been trying to study arms and hands lately too

>>5171903
>Also if the torso wasn't elongated her tits would be smacking her pussy when she ran
One, thats untrue. Even on this large woman you can see the breasts dont quite reach down to the groin. That generally only happens on very old women with large brests and an affinity for going braless all their lives
Two, even if they did, that's one of the many purposes of bras, to keep the breasts in place. You don't need to elongate the torso to make breasts appealing, nature did a fine job of that already
'anime sketches' shouldn't be exempt from general critique because of whatever contrived rationality you've cooked up in your brain. You should strive for quality no matter what you do.

How to learn foreshortening?

>>5171912
Why did you black out your signature

>>5171908
I wanted to contribute to the shockingly low amount of Rule34 of our jewish goddess.

>>5171917
Im insecure

>>5171914
>oo masa' ya make me squirt

Most I have atm

>>5171927
>I wanted to contribute to the shockingly low amount of Rule34 of our jewish goddess.
Same, problem is, I'm just too much of a moralfag to create unsolicited coomer art of her it just feels weird. That said, I hope to see many of your illustrations of her in future, anon.

idk how the fuck to draw ocean

I mean, not that the rest is good but holy shit this is what i get for not doing land/seascapes ever

>>5171954
wait a minute
WHO"S PILOTING THE SHIP!?

>>5171954
that back lower fin seems pretty low, won't it bump to the ground when the plane is landing?

>>5171957
yes but it i think it looks cool.
long landing gear and a disregard for practicality

>>5171777
you should be my girlfriend
nice digits
>>5171956
me

Just finished this, I started the sketch on jan 17 and spend the entire time just thinking about the drawing and actually finished it in the past 3 days.

Give me some critique and advise.

>>5171817
Wait a minute. Can't I just use the rough sketch as lineart by erasing the imperfections?

>>5171904
Thats okay, it’s actually really nice to hear someone say they like it. I always get the impression people don’t dig my art all that much, so I have a hard time liking it myself or showing it around. Thanks again, I hope you have a good evening/day!

>>5171978
The lines will be wobbly and uneven with chunks missing if you do that

>>5171985
My regular line art is kinda like that anyway

>>5171974
Luffy has some weird muscles. My suggestion is 1 week of intensive study. You gotta know the rules to break them

>>5171978
I don't recommend that approach

>>5171989
Can you tell me which look the weirdest?

>>5171993
Not him but the obliques (the hip muscles next to the abs) and the serratus anterior (the muscles near the ribs that interdigitate with the obliques) are the sloppiest imo. The abs also start too far down but you got that right on son goku

>>5171999
Checked and thanks

>>5171999
this. Checked

So for soft blurring shadows, which shadows should I be blurring? I know to leave shadows hard that are very close, but are there more situations that would call for blurred shadows besides just further away? Curved lines maybe? Material?

Is it okay to be proud of your work?

No like seriously, I'm amazed at how much I've improved over the past months. Sure it ain't perfect, but I did it and I'm hella proud of it.

>>5172019
It's fine to be proud, but never let that pride stop your progress like so many before you.

Can't wrap my retarded fucking head around digital rendering illustrations. Someone, anyone, recommend me an art book or something, I'm starting to hate myself.

>>5172027
Try Ctrl + Paint's digital rendering course (its on CGQueers) or Scott Robertsons how to render (also on CGSteers)

>>5172018
generally anything with a hard edge that obscures light will get a hard edged shadow but it all depends on your light source.
>>5172019
being proud of your work is probably the only real way to gmi. Just remember that you can be humbled at any point in your art journey. ''Twice the pride, double the fall.''

>>5172025
I mean I've been drawing professionally for years now and haven't progressed much in that time lol. As long as the Patreon money keeps rolling in idgaf. I'm Shadman btw.

>>5172130
yup, it's kino

Anyone have a helpful way of remembering which side the ulnar furrow starts on? I always fucking forget

>>5172213
why not just look it up?
you're drawing, not taking a med school exam

>>5172220
shouldnt need to
dont want to have to constantly be pulling up reference pictures to remember where shit is, defeats the point of learning anatomy in the first place if you ask me

>>5172213
>>5172228
Retard

>>5172019
yeah, its the positive of improving.
while realistically i can look at my drawings and know they are completely shit, i look at my older ones and see "oh I've actually learned a little" and feel better.
just don't suck yourself off to hard.

>>5172071
larp

Can someone show me how to make the arm on the right look more correct? The sleeve looks really wonky.

>>5172136
Thanks dude. It's taken way too long

>put ovals on the body
>draw the rest of the fucking body

>>5172367
those are just details

I don't understand the concept of "dynamic" drawing or making your drawing not look stiff.

Don't stiff poses exist in real life? What's wrong with drawing characters in a stiff way?

>>5172392
That’s like drawing obese ugly fucks because they exist in real life

>>5171761
>drawing what he likes
>learning fundamentals as he needs it
nothing wrong with that.

Are vilppu's resources worth the 30 bucks? I see /ic/ talking him up all the time.

>>5171802
I like you colors but not your shapes but I am too beg to be able to say why.

>>5171887
the shading on her belly looks nice

>>5172304
God I wish I can have fun drawing

>>5171978
only if your sketch is very clean

i spend a few minutes each day learning a new feature in my digital painting app and it's been beneficial

>>5172392
the point isn't realism, the point is to look good. even photographers will use dynamic poses.

You know what, I give up on vilppu. I'll never get him or how to do his gesture without it looking like a mess. I'm going with loomis.

>>5171954
i dig it so far
just use references for the ocean
try to build the colors from the back to the front
so white foam will be painted last
think about how bob ross approaches it

>>5171912
construction, anatomy

anatomy will teach you the proportion of things (like how many heads tall someone is)

construction and perspective will tell you how much space and what orientation the cube that envelopes the hand will have

>>5172887
>how many heads tall
Doesn't this restrict character design? What if I want a fat piece and short piece of shit with a big head?

>>5172923
>What if I want a fat piece and short piece of shit with a big head?
You want something more cartoony? The bigger the head usually limits how many heads tall it is. Elmer fudd is just about 2 heads tall and his head is drawn huge. Compare that to a more realistic head and it goes up to 7-8 heads tall.

>>5172923
in anon's case he's breaking the rules before he knows them (which is bad)
You can make a 20 head tall cro magnon male if you want but you've gotta proportion that shit well to make it look good

How much can I reasonably learn by drawing with a mouse? I don't wanna waste money on a tablet if I'm not sure if I'm gonna like it yet.

>>5172926
How many heads long is a snake

Tried to make more female-looking body, but don't know...

>>5172946
stiff needs moar gesture

>>5172938
Not sure if a mouse is really the way to go to see if you'll like it or not. Just grab a pen and paper.

>>5172946
Here's my fellow BEG correction. No, it's not great, but it's just how I'd turn it female. It's mainly the neck and shoulderline imo

>>5171772
you should check your brushes anon, you already understand the drawing and painting process in an analog medium, now your work is translate that into digital, the first steps are gonna be hard probably, or you are gonna feel some frustration, but is fine, with time the digital work is gonna feel more and more natural.

>>5173035
Yeah, as I was told before the main problem is a neck and trapezius, but when i drowing it more plain it turns out even worst. I, actually, tried to make it more correct on this one.

>>5171543
I see Agni

>>5171337
Oh great, now you even put non-beg art in the OP, what's the point of this shit thread?

need to drill anatomy

>>5172678
not /beg/ fuck off

>>5173074
>Jap
Why do you even come here? I'm sure you guys have better art forums than this gaijin crab shithole

>>5173077

If you are /beg/ you are not in a position to tell other people whether or not they are /beg/. There is a lot wrong with that picture and apparently throwing a bunch of noise and vignetting on it is enough to fool you so you aren't in a position to judge.

>>5173099
Who's in a position to judge? You?

>>5172946
Just a beg trying to help. I think I’ve made her face even more manlier

>>5173077
Sorry dude, I just started studying anatomy and gestures, I can see a lot wrong in this so I thought beg would be the place to post

>>5172687
usually, one side of the sleeve stays connected to the arm while the other floats around because of gravity

>>5172887
>>5173077
That is beg

>>5173110

I'm not telling random people to fuck off out of the thread when it's clear I don't know better

I wasn't really motivated today but I still tried.
Every proportion is off, details are shit and that's the laziest shading possible, but I don't know, I'm strangely proud of this one for some reason.

Realistically how many hours of figure drawing do I need to put in as an uneducated beginner before I can get useful advice from this thread?

>>5173265
Hold on let me look into my crystal ball

>>5173289
Whatever diverts you from looking up your own ass, I guess.

>>5173307
Did my retarded reply to your retarded question upset you

>>5173321
Not really, no.
It was a good question though, you're just the sort of person who considers intuition and estimation capital offenses.

Is there any way to reliably make the colors of something look decent on all displays? Pic related looks alright colorwise on my monitor (Acer 4k monitor) but on my phone her skin looks too red. I can't tell if it's my monitor or the phone that is the less accurate colors and I have no other devices to test on. Worrying about this just adds a whole new level of stress to being a noob learning the ropes of digital art. Should I just say fuck it and not worry about it?

>>5173194
sure, man. you tackled a pose that challenges all kinds of preconceptions. congrats.

>>5173328
Look up "web safe colors". Also don't fuck with the blue tint or "color temperature" of any screens you own.

>>5173327
No, it wasn’t a good question especially because you did not post your work to give us an idea of where you’re at. Now get drawing bitch

check it out, im an artist

>>5173337
Yeah I have my monitor completely zeroed out, turned off all the color boost shit and temp settings. I'll check out web safe colors. Thanks, anon.

>>5173341
>as an uneducated beginner
>how many hours
You just didn't fucking read because you'd rather jerk off on your keyboard. I posted this specifically because if I started and then posted a sketch you would just jerk off and give no advice and say practice before posting here. I know this because I have lurked basically every 4chan board enough to understand the board culture.
To counter this I just asked that question instead, to which you found away to do the same shit by being unable to read even a few sentences before giving stock shitposts based on keywords you scanned.

Your next post will be haranguing me for "wasting time" writing a post when I don't even know how to draw yet, egad!
Faggot.

>>5173356
No, I mean, don't fuck with your monitor settings at ask, leave it however it is from the box, they usually have it that way to somewhat be consistent with other monitors. Especially for web safe colors.

>>5173328
>but on my phone her skin looks too red

There's this whole thing about color temperature and white points, but that usually causes differences between your screen and printed paper, they shouldn't vary that much between screens.

Are you using night mode or blue light correction software on either the phone or the computer ?
Android phones go orange at night by default so you don't fuck up your eyes so much.

>>5173361
They had all the stuff set to 'warm' and 'gaming'. It actually looked pretty good but when I watched YouTube everyone had like dark tans and Jaundice

>>5173363
That might actually be it. The blue light filter on phone may have come on last time I checked it for reference.

>>5173265

Virtually no hours, but hopefully at least a couple for whatever you're working on that you want to show. Just try to do something, and if you feel like you put a good effort into it, but there's still something off about it or you just want to know where to go from there to improve, post it and see if someone can help. Obviously you don't want to do like a 2 minute scribble without reading any of the recommended stuff and be like hey guys what do I do here? Sit down and work on something and give it your best effort. This is the beginner thread so people aren't expecting experience, just effort.

I think generally, it helps make it easier to give advice if you're working out of a book, so if you have a problem with like the Keys to Drawing exercises, or if your Loomis heads are flat and wacky, etc. Or do whatever you want. Don't get hung up on it and feel like you aren't good enough to post anyways, there's always going to be some faggot who will say some stupid shit but sometimes you get good advice.

heads from imagination

Random practice

>>5173398
Okay, thanks. I'm planning on using Loomis just because it's so omnipresent

How is this, so far?

>>5173449
I'm always surprised by the extreme lack of Fairy Tail R34. Some guy bothers to create a series which is 80% fanservice, 100% if you're gay or willing to risk some jail time, and nobody ever commissioned or drew porn of it.
I'd be pissed if I spent 10 years setting up a scheme to get unlimited porn and nobody took the bait. That, and wait until the Nier:Automata guy stops dabbing on me to go key his car.

>>5173476
Well no one really draws his girls better then himself, there are artists who simply colorize or do nude edits of his work just because it's easier that way or something. I don't think it was mashimas intent to have fan art porn produced of his characters either, dude just loves drawing. He drew several omakes and tons of twitter art inbetween chapter releases, and still does the same to this day.

>>5173469
I'm not sure about the arm/hand going around her back, but other than that it's really good

>>5173508
Thanks.

What's wrong with the arm; what should I do?

first day drawing. Do I have potential? What must I improve?

Vilppu? No thanks. I already have loomis.

>>5173517
You're already great good job. How old are you?

>>5173523
Turned 19 about a month ago. Never drawn in my life.

>>5172880
Thank you.
I will try that method.

>>5173511
Not him but the pose seems a bit unnatural, I'd move the arm under the other girl's or around her neck depending on whether they're fucking or just being very friendly and very naked for no reason

>>5173517
Potential is not a thing. It's a skill you can learn and master like any other. just like learning an instrument for example. If you think it's worth investing your time to study and put the hours in then go for it.

>>5173469
Bowling ball ass

>>5173511
The arm doesn't look like it's turning at the joint but rather halfway down the forearm. That arm simply won't wrap around from that angle/distance. Either you move them both in closer or you only tuck the hand around on her lower back as opposed to the entire forearm.

>>5173535
>Doesn't like big round asses
Hello Irishman.

>>5173430
Lol'd at the bottom one's text. Top one looks good to me but the eyes are too big for a masculine man like the jaw implies, but it's really your preference. I'd make the pupils smaller at least.

>>5173517
no good, minimum of 400 boxes and 200 lines

>>5173531
>>5173541
Thanks for the input folks.

I just saw that my last set of drawings made the OP of the previous thread. Thanks guys.

>>5172755
thanks anon

>>5171462
Polishing a turd.
You fucked up the perspective beyond repair.

>hampton: never use straight lines for your gestures, the lines should make the eye flow naturally through the form
>also hampton: uses multiple straight lines himself while figure drawing
what the FUCK

>>5173658
you're welcome!

>>5173680
UH THIS SINGLE CONTRADICTION IS HAMPERING MY PROGRESS THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY I COULD SIDESTEP IT OR CONTINUE DESPITE THE MISTAKE THAT HIS HUMAN BEING HAS MADE BEING OBVIOUS I FIND MYSELF AT A CROSSROADS WHAT SHOULD I DO???????

retard

>>5173135
Thank you

serious critiques please

>>5173747
the facial proportions are off by a little bit, the mouth placement in comparison with the nose.

done this. I keep suffering with light and perspective but its slowly getting better, i think

>>5173759
yeah i see it :(

>>5173731
this post reeks of projection

Anything look wrong before I move on to inking and coloring?

>>5173811
the rib cage looks flat, might be the angle. The torso looks a bit long, should she be leaning up more because of the table?

So recently been wanting to get into drawing, friend even gave me her old Wacom Intous so I can do stuff digitally. What would be the best stuff to focus on for the time being when a good chunk of my interest is in stuff like Miyazaki's airplanes.

>>5172946
I'm just a beg too, but I think that adding a horizon line helps to solve many problems with forms.

>>5173861
>i'm just a beg

>>5173827
Yeah, she was missing her rib cage. Better?

>>5173906
yeah it looks better

This is the only lineart I've made that looks decent.

Does this look fine? i'm trying so hard to get out of my comfort zone these days. my head hurt, I should sleep.

>>5173943
hmm i noticed the neck might be long, fuck I need to sleep now.

>>5172213
LOOK AT YOUR FUCKING ARMS YOU DIP

is her torso too large

>>5173944
symbol drawing clothing

>>5173866
based uber beg

>>5173964
How do I fix it?

>>5173964
symbol drawing your face

>>5173944
Arms are kind of short. Fingertips should be reaching to about mid-thigh.

>>5173944
silly

>>5173971
see.thing

>>5171777
you're the one in the vest? Europeans were right.

>>5173977
Ignore him anon
How do I go about fixing the clothes?

>>5173957
yes, look at where her bellybutton is located for a rough guild.

>>5173982
first why are you so silly?

>>5172213

Ulna goes from the elbow to the pinky between the extensors and flexors. Top of the forearm is extensor group, bottom is flexor group, thumb side brachioradialis, pinky side ulna.

>>5173811
what do the diff colored lines mean?

>>5173982
you are not thinking in ''3D'' you are not thinking how the folds should deform/change accordingly.... because you are not visualizing the 3D forms of the body underneath, look at the neck part you just make it thinner it should be almost if not completely flat and the part that is wrapping the tits barely changes of form it looks as she had a rope around her neck down to her tits... the rest of the clotes is flat as fuck no forms no nothing like that sleeve, most of these lines that are supposed to be wrinkles look ramdomly placed they make no sense... ughhh MEGA YIKES!!!

>>5173836
im still kinda beg, but I though scott robertson's how to draw was pretty helpful.
People get a bit caught up in it and think they have to rigidly construct everything how he does in the book, but you don't have to.
It's helpful to learn some construction techniques; but make your own decisions about how rigorous you want to be.
Even when I don't use do the actual constructions, I think it's helpful when freehanding to understand the methods one might use.
It should be on the artbook thread

based, interest though, I love me some fictional interwar era planes.

Rate

>>5174088
Thanks, I’ll try being more mindful of clothes next sketch and try to learn more from refs
The way you do the yike thing at the end of your posts reminds me of someone in that one ic discord but I forgot whomst

i dont really understand 5 minute figure drawing. am i supposed to just suck at it until I dont? what am i supposed to be taking away from it?

>>5174022
When I’m sketching I’ll use different layers for different objects so I don’t “destructively” go over other lines. I use the different colors to keep track of what’s in which layer.

Not that it mattered. End result sucked.

>>5173939
It may not be great (or good) and it may be traced, but I'm proud of it.

Now I just gotta finish it.

Are you supposed to start at the head when drawing characters? I always find myself wanting to start at the feet, just because I need to imagine them standing on something instead of just floating in space.

I'm unsure of what to study / draw next. How do you figure out what to work on?

>>5174256
Draw what you struggle with but want to improve

>>5174277
But that's everything. :(
I want to do concept art because that seems like the most fun use of my time. But I'm not sure what to study because I don't have the ability to judge my own work enough to say. Not sure how to get past that hurdle of feeling blind.

>>5173760
Put a little research into painting a character into an environment. Here’s a link to a page that helped me a little for starting on figuring this out:
https://claytondraws.tumblr.com/post/150496037348/a-couple-days-ago-a-friend-asked-me-how-to-color-a

Her skin color can be yellow/green, but when you don’t color it properly it looks sickly and out of place. Lineart looks pretty good otherwise. Good luck!

>>5174280
So get to it
You're on a timelimit of 20-55 years and you don't be in analysis paralysis. When in doubt draw hands

>>5174213

You're sacrificing detail for bulk quantity of poses. Simplify construction, be gestural. It's about getting the feel for the figure as a whole from more poses, angles, movements, etc. If every figure drawing you do is like 30 min, 1hr, etc. you're just not going to draw that many figures. Think of yourself as like one of those 3D cameras that's quickly going around a figure and taking lots of pictures, as opposed to just like one flat long exposure picture (probably not a good analogy but don't think about it too much).

That being said, the more you know about the figure the more you can get out of faster paced drawings, and sometimes I feel like I have to just stop and really build up anatomy knowledge and whatnot to have more information that I can apply to the quicker drawings. It's like long form study vs. bulk application experience.

Simplify as much as you have to in order to get the drawing done in 5 minutes, if you can't do it in 5, do 10, etc. Start with a gesture and you should get something down. Once you get like the construction mannequin learned fairly well it shouldn't be too hard to do something with it.

>>5174213
Brent eviston figure drawing course (tm)

How do people study anatomy books? Do they just read or do they sketch the images on the books as well>

>>5174289
fuck it thanks

>>5174302

Drawing, many times, review constantly. Copy those drawings out until they're seared into your brain.

This is a rough lay-in sketch for a hunter robot. Gonna do a more concrete sketch next and then lines. Does this composition look appealing enough?

Almost finished, still not past the point of no return.

How is this going? I feel like i really need to fix the nose but i'm not exactly sure how to change it

>>5174563
Dude you've been doing this one for like a month. How are you gonna improve at that rate?

Please help me guys.
I need money so I'm "opening" commissions for the first time. This is what I plan to use for my "touched up sketches" tier.
Harsh criticism is WELCOMED; anything to get better.

>>5173984
Is her torso too long because he drew the groin too low? Did he draw the hips/butt too long too?

This is just my first sketch of this but is the composition alright? Aside from that, how would you make the bedside table more cute?

>>5174585
Looks great! Maybe use more dynamic colors.

>>5174585
Whoops, dropped the pic

>>5174569
I did the sketch a couple weeks ago and haven’t touched it since. I don’t have a lot of spare time to draw, that’s why it seems like I’m so slow, I’m just working on it when I can

>>5174588
The left kirby nutsack looks a little wide
>>5174563
Looks uncanny probably due to the lack of lighting, hair strands being visible but face is a strange mix of cartoon and anime. You could use the official and licensed art from the game and see that less is more. I genuinely dislike when beginner artists start doing that hair strand thing willy nilly.

>>5174594
I’m not saying I think theirs is better by any means but I hate the way this is lined.

>>5174595
Hate is a strong word. Anyway good luck anon person.

>>5174588
Please redraw the Switch with perspective in mind. The bottom left corner should "closer" (up and to the right) to the left Kirby. The only other way I can think to explain it is: since the right side of the Switch is closer to the viewer, the left side should be smaller than the right.
Make the pillows look more squishy. Looks like you drew the outside of them and then just added lines in the middle. Individually they look fine, but when my eyes connect the two they both look bad.
Make the left Kirby's oval taller and the right one more oval on his stomach. The left Kirby looks like his face doesn't fit the same way as the right's. The right Kirby looks like his stomach isn't REALLY touching the bed.
Redo the right Kirby's foot. It looks flat. Maybe make his sole end high towards the bottom.
I think you're almost ready to color though dude!
I'm a beginner too though (drew Hu Tao). So take all that with a grain of salt.

>>5174605
It the switch was angled the other way wouldn’t it look like it’s turned away from the kirbies instead of towards them?

>>5174614
Dude I honestly have no idea. That was just my gut feeling.

>>5174636
No you were right. Thanks man, I didn’t picture it like this for some reason, I’m just retarded

>>5174638
Don't say you're retarded. Self talk is important.
Do you mind giving me some tips??

>>5174136
Thanks for the tip anon and yeah the designs were always neat and tickled my inner-engineer.

>>5174640
I probably couldn't give you any good tips, most of my draws are literally over polished turds. I'm hoping spending time here will help me improve my sketches so everything else can actually be worthwhile.

Give it to me straight:
Am I right in thinking that if I want to draw truly sexy women I should before anything else at by drawing from references of male and female skeletons to understand the differences and learn the correct foreshortening, and then start drawing musculature over the skeletons as a separate layer only once I have become competent at skeletons, with the skin being the very last step? Or am I overthinking it?

Also, can anyone recommend a decent program with simple layers that I can use to sketch by swiping on a phone? I want to start practicing at work between things.

Decided to change my previous character to a Holy Roman Executioner. I still need critiques on the perspective/composition if anyone can help.

how long

>>5173089
maybe he is just a weebo

>>5174668
Have fun actually drawing something worth drawing within 10 years

I have been drawing for a month but due to personal reasons I plan to stick with it for the foreseeable future, should I get a drawing tablet and if so which one? Also is it easier or harder to learn to draw with a tablet. Pic is literally the best thing I've been able to draw so far.

>>5174860
I use the huion hs610. Just got it after using an ipad and find it to be much easier to use. Some might feel differently, but I have an easier time getting good strokes and line work using a non-display tablet.
>>5172130
>>5174724
These are my most recent drawings using this type of tablet. I'd find some older ones to show what the ipad drawings were like, but I don't have my ipad on hand.

If you want the best of the best, you would probably go with the intuos pro medium.

Is drawing from photos a good way to practice/learn? Used to draw crappy deviant-art tier anime shit as a kid and want to do it properly this time round

>>5174654
Are you okay anon?

Hi, bros. I'm going through Perspective Made Easy but I'm completely stuck at this exercise. I've tried moving the vanishing points of the book along the horizon line but it just looked really off, as if the book isn't laying on the table anymore. I've spent a few hours on it but still can't figure out how the book would rotate. If someone has done this exercise in the past and could share, I would be really grateful. It seems very important to understand this in order to draw objects lying on an another object's surface

>>5173861
Thank you, anon, tried to rework the hammer as you did, with horizon line and one point perspective, it turned out like that but it was a good exercise.

>>5174727
Aim for fumika's artist level first

>>5171337

>>5174923
cute!

>>5174579
Can I please get some criticism? I did a greyscale for it.
Working on colors and shading now. I'd really appreciate any tips before I get too far.

>>5174913
post work?

if you're trying to understand how the book would rotate, try imagining a line running along the long edge of the book. As you rotate the book, the line "shrinks" and "grows" because of your perspective, even though the actual length of the book stays constant. When the long edge shrinks, the short edge grows and vice versa. This is because when you rotate the book, you rotate the vanishing points.

>>5175249
I think your biggest problem is lineweight, it's a very common mistake but automatically makes your work look 10x worse than it really is. If you're using a G-pen kind of brush, you absolutely need to have lineweight in mind. I think your work looks really cute so I'd definitely try to redo the lineart, believe me it will change a lot. I strongly recommend looking at anime speedpaints (if it's your goal), analyzing the lineart alone and trying to understand what was done. It will explain better than words, but you might also look at the video about line weight from Marc Brunet (How to draw good lineart) and the lineart video from Deep Blizzard's Art School. Good line weight makes a drastic difference so it's definitely worth to learn it

>>5175298
Thanks so much for the videos bro. I'll start working on it.
I've had trouble with it and have given up in the past. Does having a tablet with higher pressure sensitivity make good line weight easier to achieve? (Mine rates at 1024 levels. Is it time to upgrade?)

Practicing my shading. would appreciate criticism

>>5175331
No problem bro. I have to say I'm not sure how big the difference is, but I think your lines are very clean and without any noticeable pressure "bumps", so 1024 should be enough. You're only missing the theory, the basics of lineweight are really easy to learn and it makes your art instantly look much more professional so I heartily recommend it. I've also just found this video, it looks really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUhtzuMDlM

>>5175351
Thanks Anon!! Saved both videos. B- )
I'll focus on my lineweight for the next few days.

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>>5175365
>>5175365

>>5175249
I think you lack experience in line, and although it may be a habitual mistake for many artists. I think you should work on it more if you want your art to turn out many times better than your current level. My advice is watching videos, taking notes of what artists are doing to improve

>>5175336
I'll wait for a more experienced anon to share his opinion, but varying the hue/saturation is generally always a good idea while shading. I see you've made your shadows more saturated, try playing with hue as well to create a bigger contrast.

>>5174147
06/10 - it is flat, the hands are half-assed the eyes are misaligned but it still cute

>>5174227
as long you are happy

>>5175373
Thanks for the info. Is there some general rule on hue when shading. I see you've added a warmer color to the shadow, should that always be the case?

>>5174256
I look at my art and ask myself, "what is the easiest thing that I can improve that will give me the most benefit"? In another words I am always looking for the best use of my time.

>>5174302
I usually do something like:
>skim through a chapter
>read the whole chapter taking notes
>repeat until the end of the book
>skim through the whole book
not sure if it is very efficient tho, I think that I only used my notes once, in ~7 years. I recently hear about this idea of only reading a book when you need it. then you can apply the knowledge right way. I will try this with my next book.

>>5174550
>still not past the point of no return.
sorry anon, I think you are.

>>5175382
You're very welcome, I think the color of the shadow will depend on the color of the light, so the shadow might also be a cooler hue. It's very common to shade yellow with orange/red, but it's definitely not a rule

>>5174943
is she fine?

>>5174895
>Is drawing from photos a good way to practice/learn?

well it is a good way to learn how to draw from photos. I am a believer that drawing what you want to draw is the best way to learn to draw.

>>5175422
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyyCz9z1s_M

>>5175441
No, judging by this board it's the best way to get insulted or crabbed on

>>5174869
Is there any reason not to get a tablet with a screen if I really want to go all out? Also thank you for your suggestions, your drawing look really good. How long have you been drawing?

>>5175670
>it's the best way to get insulted or crabbed on
that is just posting here at all. the only way to avoid it is to keep your drawings to yourself.

>>5175376
I'm mostly happy with it, but I still plan on finishing the nude version. I added the shirt because I didn't feel like (or know how to) making the nipples.

>>5171887
looks pretty good