/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Friendly reminder you cannot make it without asian genes.

Just finished this illustration up. Had a really fun time working on it and I'm happy with the fact that my painting is finally starting to come along in some respect.

>>5154170
Dude, learn anatomy

Real question. What are gradient maps and how do I use them to paint?

>>5154176
Is there anything in particular you can highlight that I should work on?

>>5154170
I like it. How did you go about training painting?

>>5154144
>thinking it's asian genes
>not the asian culture that drums an absolutely autistic work ethic into each of them from birth
Draw as much as them and you can be as good them, simple as.

>>5154124
pointers to paint like this

>>5154124
I love ryza
I wish i could beat her game though, the final boss kept one shotting me.

>>5154178
You use gradient maps to map the gradient. You use them to paint by using the gradient on the maps.

how do i make a color gamut in CSP?

>>5153813
>>5154013

I'm that anon >>5150548
Looks way better, but the face needs fixing. The folds look great now. Maybe coloring the lines a bit would help it too?

>>5154170

Looks nice, though the feet are way too big and look like furry paws, and the boobas are to high on the ribcage

YES IM GONNA COOM

>>5154342
>Looks nice, though the feet are way too big and look like furry paws, and the boobas are to high on the ribcage

Thank you anon. The half-paws were intentional, but I will keep the breast placement more firmly in mind for the future.

>>5154229
Thanks to you too anon. Really I kind of just fell into it after attempting to brute force it for a long time. I spent ages trying to figure out how to paint with little success, but I think the things that helped most were loosening up and changing the way that I thought about painting as a practice.

I started out just trying to think about it as a more complicated form of cel shading, where you use multiple different tones instead of two or three. It turns out that you can actually take that way of thinking pretty far; ultimately all you're doing is blocking out color, then dropping more color on top of that, and then more on top of that, and more on top of that.

The relaxation element comes in when it's time to resist "correcting" things. I'm not sure about you, but when it comes time for me to work with lines, I tend to get a little overzealous in tweaking the directions of things and ensuring everything is in the right place as I progress through the lineart stages. In painting, since you're repeatedly putting things on top of other things, you often kind of just have to let sloppiness exist and form a backing for the colors and shapes you're eventually going to put on top of the mess in order to sharpen it. Painting on top of existing material is extremely important, and if you keep just trying to correct the material beneath instead of moving on and painting on top, you'll end up spinning your wheels on a painting for a long time. You sort of just have to let the mess exist and "come back" to it later by just painting on top.

Hopefully this is semi-helpful anon; after I finally came across these two realizations I really just watched process videos of other people painting and messed with their processes.

Has anyone else been having issues with the past few updates of CSP taking forever during autosave? The progress bar used to barely be visible but now it takes forever to save preferences it seems.

>>5154621
no

Is this old man really going to help me draw thick anime girls?

>>5154748

no, understanding this it will

>>5154782
damn I guess I've been found out, back to my containment thread

>>5154760
tried

>>5154760
i understand it, still cant draw boobas

>>5154789
>>5154792
you think you do but you don't

>>5154818
im not that anon, i do bg art

>>5154295
I had to change the difficulty settings

>>5154615
anon you have to go full furry or not. making it in between looks jarring as hell

Can you recommend some good guides/courses on rendering in CSP?

>>5155050
the same guides you'd use for photoshop. find the desnse watercolor brush, turn off color mixing. that's your hard round (optionally turn hardness down to 4).

duplicate the dense watercolor, put the hardness down to 2, that's your soft round. use the hard and soft round to blend color.

follow the ctrl paint tutorials
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library
https://www.youtube.com/user/ctrlpainter/playlists

brush flow is density in clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsAJp87T8ZA&list=PLI68ClDpxTYQybhvdh5-I3hi-TFaIVata&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLI68ClDpxTYQ_mxSpKYIR9QyePD-uVBBV

>>5155085
I mean I worked in PS but the way i would work with real paint. One layer and mixing with strokes. But i've seen people in csp using layers, blending and some wierd techinics. still thanks.

>>5155155
it's the same shit. you can work either way and probably want to mix and match depending on what you want it to look like. the clip specific stuff is more lasso fill and flatting tools. everything else is the same as photoshop.

>>5154190
not that anon but your characters stomach looks just flat out wrong. weird boob position as well.
otherwise i like the style but yeah need anatomy work in some areas.

>>5155182
Can you give me a more specific analysis? I'm not sure what you're referring to in particular.

Do I have potential?

working on my lineart with some miku

>>5154170
neat, some things I'd note:
- face looks kind of flat, like it lacks side planes? it feels like a mask rather than an actual head that wraps the whole way around.
- drapery is a bit too loose / flat imo, could use more defined, solid outlines and colors
- balance is a bit odd, the way she's tiptoeing + an (unintended?) lean backwards

some (very) subjective anatomy stuff:
- upper arms are too long?
- abs are too large, make them a bit smaller and show more of the obliques
- boobs are pushed too high up and far apart
- could use more definition around the crotch area ;)
it still looks really good on the whole though, keep at it

>>5155703
don't think I have the energy to take this any further so Ill post this too

Searching for the overlay used to make the pattern of dots (manga shading) for Photoshop, as featured used in this image.
If you know where this exact overlay is from, or at least similiar, please tell.

>>5155729
Screen tones

Bros, how much of anatomy is knowing things and how much of it is practice?

>>5155703
Thanks for this anon, I appreciate you taking the time. The lean was intentional since I wanted a slight sense of floating, but I can understand if it comes off as stylistically questionable.

I'll be sure to keep the rest of this in mind though; I will admit that certain head angles are things I'm still figuring out in this particular style, so it's unfortunate but understandable that this feels odd in particular. I'll have to come up with a proper method for it.

>>5155737
but which? there's trillions

>>5155806
dot patterns.

>>5155806
polka dot dude

>>5155763
knowing only the shapes is ok if you want to draw anime girl standing in 3/4 view, but it can only get you so far.
studying anatomy, the underlying muscles, tendons and bones is hard but is worth it if you want to draw crazy poses.

>>5154621
What artists influenced you to make your women thick like that?

>>5155832
That's not his art. It's by an artist named Synecdoche.

>>5155568
banana tits

Will Vilppu truly set me on the right path for drawing cute anime girls?

>>5155924
Believe and anything is possible my man.

Practically all anime artists are using the Apple iPad Pro 12.9 already.
If you keep making low-quality drawings, it's pretty much because you haven't used an Apple iPad Pro 12.9.

>>5156080
I'm waiting for the new 2021 version to come out.

>>5155924
only if you ask the same question ten 9278*68 more

>>5155924
I know this question is bait, but Vilppu, Loomis, Bridgman or any Japanese artist are all teaching the same stuff
Simplify the torso/pelvis, make it twist and turn. the rest is anatomy and stylisation

>>5155826
Isn't shapes (and probably very common knowledge of bones and it's rotate angles) is enough for any poses if you can cubes?

do my old men look kawaii :3

>>5146099
Continuing them studies. Copying then improvising is a fun way to do studies

>>5156405
They look like they fug my anime girls in my doujins

>>5156415
I guess if you only coomsoom porn you would think that wouldn't you

>>5156442
I’m gonna coom

I wanna draw more but I get frustrated at my ability or lack thereof. I look up tutorials and all the western ones are very methodical, and then you have stuff like pin2d, which is how I wanna draw, but is barely explained. It's just "oh draw a circle then you know where the chin in and then put in all the features"

>>5156786
But there is some Japanese books with methodical and step-by-step approach. Did you tried it? "It's fun drawing people" and "Deconstruction illustrated" looks most friendly.

>>5156786
It's obvious where the things go if you've studied enough anime. Stop trying to skip a step.

>>5156412
What are you copying at the moment? I like them a lot! Very good drawings!

>>5156786
happiness can only be achieved through 2 things, suffering or money.

i wish the gray sketchad would come back one day

>>5157228
He quit right

>>5156907
Right now my aim is to strengthen how i draw faces. Im copying/studying the following artists.

Mangamaterials
Duoyuanjun
Tomio Ogata
and any radom Girl's Frontline artist I feel like studying.

>been practicing keeping my lines straight before I move on to actually drawing shit
>been a week, getting better but still a long, long way to go
How long would you say it'll take to progress? I'm almost completely fresh and I don't want to actually start drawing until I can keep my lines straight/neat.

>>5157689
>I don't want to actually start drawing until I can keep my lines straight/neat
Stagnation at step 0

>>5157692
I was advised that this is what I should be doing. Is this bad advice?
What should I be doing, then?

>>5157696
Yes it's bad advice. More confident lines comes from familiarity with what you're drawing. Start drawing with reference and just try your best to make confident strokes.

>>5157696
You should be constantly practicing different things, drawing different things, and trying new methods. Getting too focused on a specific aspect will only drag you down.

Go do gesture drawing quicksketch sessions asap. Filling your page after page with godawful figures will help your brain understand lines more than just drawing straight lines over and over. And by a week in you'll look back at your first few and be impressed with how far you've come already.

>>5155568
With deliberate practice, yes!

>>5157689
>>5157696
If you can't tell this much, you may as well stop now.

>>5157696
https://mega.nz/folder/gZ0iwSLB#8rPfYlho_alFZ1Nj3Rq6Bw
search for Will Weston lectures on figure drawing
Practice the basic 3d forms so you can use them to build the poses.
Once you understand them, jump to figure drawing, don't grind lines and boxes like a retard.

>>5157696
>I was advised that this is what I should be doing. Is this bad advice?
Practicing your lines is good. Literally not drawing anything or even trying to in the meantime is terrible.

>>5157696

thats why people say do drawabox, it helps with lines. and dont grind that shit for a month without doing nothing else, just put it somewhere in your drawing schedule

Thank you all for your help.
>>5157704
My main problem is, when I attempt to I end up getting very frustrated with myself because I know I can do better, or erasing the same line for minutes on end trying to get it how I want it.
>>5157705
I'll start doing this, thank you.
>>5157747
I downloaded most of his videos, and shall finish tomorrow. Thank you.
>>5157931
>drawabox
I checked it out, thank you for bringing this to my attention.

>>5157696
Draw like shounen jump author near their deadline. if you don't improve in a year then you can sue me.

>>5157696
>>5157689
it works well in academic trad if you stand with your arm outstretched in front of the canvas
it's not so restrictive in digital, you just need to know about different hand movements (shoulder, elbow, wrist)

which one is better

>>5158360
My lines go wonky and everything gets lopsided if I do B.
If I do A my back gets fucked up. Can't win.

>>5158268
>draw for a year without sleeping or showering

>>5154124
is that discord still alive?
link doesn't work

>>5155710
the face my man lmao.
and then you're there
so like 85% there

>>5155568
good facial featuers plus face shape.
but other than that the body is bad.
with practice you'll get there quicker than others I think.

guys what do you think of my art?

>>5159810
too tiny

>>5155211
Legs are way bigger than body, looks off.

A is obviously shit, B is for trads, so do C!

>>5160108
i used to adraw like 1 on paper but with my elbow as support and never ever had asingle pain in any part of my back, after i got a tablet i couldn't support on my elbow since i needed the fingers on my tablet buttons, my i would tired and my spine woul become like the redline i would switch between those throught the day, after 6 months my lower back was killing me all day even after resting on my bed, i tried a better posture like 2 but the pain is still there not as bad but still 24/7, funny thing is that i gamed like 2 for years and never ever had a single problem

>>5160108

i used to adraw like 1 on paper but with my elbow as support and never ever had asingle pain in any part of my back, after i got a tablet i couldn't support on my elbow since i needed the fingers on my tablet buttons but i would get tired and my spine woul become like the redline i would switch between those throught the day, after 6 months my lower back was killing me all day even after resting on my bed, i tried a better posture like 2 but the pain is still there not as bad but still 24/7, funny thing is that i gamed like 2 for years and never ever had a single problem

>>5160143
forgot image

>>5160145

>>5160108
B feels like shit and I like C

I was finally able to put something together that looks vaguely humanoid if you squint.
I am getting better.

>>5160595
I can draw something humanoid, but the thing I want to draw is mecha and I still can't do it.

>>5160604
If I could do this then you can do mecha
We'll make it, we just have to get better.

a study of lain

>>5160619
she doesn't look like that so how is it a study
looks good though

>>5154124
Where's the video guide on how to do anime hair? None of the relevant YouTube people are weeb enough to cover it.

>>5160731
you don't need video

>>5160731
You really don't need video.
Hair in its simplest term can be separated into rear, middle, and front part. Start from there and you should be good.

>>5160731
>Draw photorealistic hair.
>Erase the insides
?

>>5160739
Anything except 2, 4 and 8

>>5160609
>being proud of this

>>5160609
silly

did a quick study of >>5154429 to get used to digital painting again. using gradients for edges was actually really helpful, circle and flat

>>5160669
i'be tried to emulate the style of yoshitoshi abe but i fail haha

My drawing from last year. I don't frickin know what or how I just saw ebin art at pixiv and tried to copy it.
I have the fully colored version but I don't really like it so here the grayscale one.

Started really motivated and inspired but at the end I kinda dislike it, probably spent too much time on it. Many flaws as well.

>>5161000
Oh yeah also, I drew this on my phone. Android. MediBang.

>>5160145

I swore I would never draw anime, yet here I am. You corrupted me

>>5161203
What is so bad about drawing anime? cute art btw

>>5161203
I feel like a lot of artists treat getting over their anime phase as a rite of passage. I started with an anime phase, thought I was cool for getting over it, then stopped being a coward and went back to it because I like how it looks and caring about what art elitists think is low test

>>5161246
>caring about what others think is low test

>>5161217
>>5161246
I'm just more interested in other art styles but decided to try drawing some animu for once. It's not that deep.

>>5156250
yo boyyyy
it meee
hahahahahahahaha

hey motherfcukker where'd that picture the fuck come from?? biiiitch

peace out, seee ya laterrrrr

I spent 4 hours and it turned out like that.

>>5161257
oh, well I just replied to you cuz I wanted to bring it up
I just want people to stop feeling ashamed about wanting to draw in a style they like

>>5154124
let me know.

>>5162520
rip neck

>>5162550
care to elaborate?

>>5162520
the neck can't stretch like that with the head angle you've drawn here. It would be a 3/4 profile at most.

>>5162601
how? I'm literally doing the pose.
you can look over your shoulder you know.
feel free to point out if I'm missing anything.

>>5155729
It's just a sheet of screentone. Medibang paint offers a ton of those for free, or you can just google that shit I bet you'll find it.

>>5162565
thats not how necks work and a head turning to completely to his side is almost if not off the limit of what is anatomically possible yours is beyond that

notext

>>5162628
I don't see it; my neck can stretch a little over 90 degrees.
Her head is turned about or a little over 90 degrees, maybe a little more than would be anatomically possible but I don't think it's really a pressing issue.

I'll take the advice for the next drawing but I don't really see the issue to be frank.

>>5162636
>but I don't really see the issue to be frank.

>>5162632
slightly lower the length of the legs.
slightly decrease the thickness of her left thigh.
very slightly increase head size.
very slightly decrease left lower leg thickness at the ankle area.
neck can be slightly thicker.
finish left arm.

other than that you're all good, she looks cute.

>>5162636
stupid 2 digits nigger, go check yourself into a mirror and trying pointing your chin to your shoulder, you should see your shoulderblade as and indiaction that your body isn't turning your bitch is twisting her head beyond that point, jesus fuck

>>5162636
>>5162605
Except you're not, because twisting your neck like that will break it. You can look over your shoulder, but like I said, it's from a 3/4 angle max.

>>5162645
>>5162652
>>5162655
alright, so by how much degrees OVER 90 degrees is the head turned in this drawing?

>>5162664
In what picture?? who cares about that degree autismo, just look at some fucking references and use your eyes already.

>>5162659
eye spacing needs to be increased marginally (careful with the eye spacing it's better to have too little than too much, but this still is too little)
alternatively you could also horizontally scale the head down.
speaking of the head. there should be a more refined jawline (which should cut down the the wideness of the face visually too)
be careful for a synergistic effect with the jawline and the descaling horizontally of the head.

the composition is fucking boring.
background boring as hell, but to be fair the background isn't done of course. it could also be the colors that creates this really uninteresting look. but I get it, it's not done yet.
try to space out the eyebrows a little more (marginally, most facial feature adjustments are very precise and it's really easy to overdo it).

skintone might be a little weird (this is the importance of having a calibrated monitor, but you shouldn't buy one)

>>5162685
>>5162520

>>5162645
>>5162652
>>5162655
like maybe I'm wrong it look like it from the fact that I got 3 replies referring to the same issue. I don't understand; how many degrees over 90 degrees?

>>5162691
Alright, here's a shitty diagram because I'm too lazy to pick up the tablet again. Stand straight. (fig 1)

Keep your shoulder straight too. Now, look at your right/left. (fig 2) See your limit here? You'll probably be able to position your chin just right on top of your collarbones.

Now, let your shoulders move with your head. Your body should be twisting like in your picture. (fig 3) Can you see the complete back of your room? no.

This is a very basic visualization, but don't scratch your head too much over specific angles.

>>5162719
I don't really know what I'm supposed to say at this point.

How am I lookin, lads?

>>5163128
silly

>>5163156
Damn. My drawing also look silly?

How do I achieve this? As in being able to draw a scale pattern myself on a form and then being able to shade on top of them as they were part of the skin wtihout overwritting anything

>>5163236
layer styles

>>5163236
Put shadows on multiply or overlay or something on a different layer from your scale pattern.

>>5163332
But multiply ruins my values and colors

>>5163351
Then don't use multiply, use something else. Go play with layers.

>>5163358
I did but didn't managed to achieve the result, that's why I'm asking.

>>5163376
If you tried other blending modes and that ruined your values and colors, then that means you just flipped through the layers without actually adjusting the colors after setting each layer type to see what colors you can actually get out of those layers. You have to experiment with adjacent tools in order to figure things out.

>>5163418
>You have to experiment
If you don't know either might as well don't answer at all.

>>5163426
If you just post an example and don't post your work you are trying to drop a shadow over patterns on, there's only so much we can suggest for you bro. I can do it just fine with overlay. You need to post your shit or figure it out yourself.

>>5163426
Anon, we gave you the answer. It's blending modes. In black and white you can literally use just multiply / overlay. Your answer was "well I tried it and it looked like shit" with no picture. What do you expect us to do?

>>5160731
Diagrams are far more helpful

>>5161246
>I feel like a lot of artists treat getting over their anime phase as a rite of passage

As someone who used to be deterred by peers not to do anime so much, I think part of it comes from fear of limiting one's influences and lack of practice of fundamentals in favor of copying from screenshots and other people's fanart despite the fact that most in the anime and manga industry tend to have far more discipline than their work suggests. However most fanartists and wannabe anime artists may overlook the training and discipline of the artists that serve as their primary influence and think they can wing stylization.

The fact is there's nothing wrong with drawing anime since most that criticize it have a very limited concept of how flexible the styles can be but I think if the issue is that fanartists and people that want to make the next hit storyline still need basic artist training and I think there's a better way of pushing that than to tell people to drop anime since all that does is suggest anime has no place for things like anatomy or proportions which couldn't be further from the truth.

You can still draw anime and learn other styles at the same time but most importantly, self taught artists still need discipline.

>>5162688
>>5162659

>>5163522
yeah, I can see that, but mostly I'm talking about people who go from an anime style to a cartoony western style with obvious anime influence and think they're bigger people for getting over their weeb phase lol

>>5163537
Oh yeah I know. Most of that pastel, shotgun applied glitter and start shit with dollops of purple and/or pink stuff anywhere in the pic is one of those offshoots that offends my eye.

>>5163525
what does this has to do with my criticism on the yellow sweater drawing?
are you the artist making this post?
I don't get it.

Absolute fuckery, look at the eyes something is so fuckkkeeedddddd helpppppp

any crit?
i sort of just slapped a background on here

>>5164028
Why is she eating ice cream like that

>>5164035
Kids are dumb

>>5163525
I'm gonna have to disagree with this guide, depending on the anime style the bridge of the nose can be very shallow and deep to a point where there's no ridge covering the eye unless it's close to profile, it's mainly seen in females and children.
Pic related.

>>5163799
Your face is facing forward, why are you showing the nose like that as if it were viewed from the right?
Is her nose crooked? I get some cartoons do that but they don't really tend to be anime.

I'd try adding more variations in hue to your colors, it looks like two main colors, try playing with values and hue, like you did with the background

Is she floating?
I don't understand, the background is horizontal and it makes it looks like she's leaning or falling over.
I'd get if the background is leaning like she was.

I can't tell what your main light source is.
Going by the clouds and foilage the sun is on the left but the light is all over the place on your character.

The eyes are too close, for a front view there should be about an eye's length between the eyes.

Do you know any books on designing characters?

>>5162688
thank you right now im trying out this new brush from here >>5152270
but one question about composition, do you have do all those golden spiral ratio things to make it look better? if so I will experiment with that and regarding the head how far apart of the face would you say it's suppose to be like one third of it because im still not sure since i normally just construct the head with the circle and axis and then put the jawline under like a simple way but i know there are more complex ways to do it

>>5164422
>i normally just construct the head with the circle and axis and then put the jawline under like a simple way
and to show what im talking about here's how i did it
another person's critique said that the eyes need to be less simplified and more detailed and less big which i wanted to know if it is true

>>5164079
>posting a crappy 3d model
Out

>>5164453
That's what these more moe heads look like though.

>>5164468
It's showing better perspective for hand drawn art. If you wanna draw 3d anime model faces then enjoy your uncanny valley. Arksys creates customized models for certain frames because they know 3D has its limits when it comes to presentation

>>5162691
Chiming in that ur pic looks fine to me fampi, her head is tilting off to the right, so it's like, maybe she's just turning her head a bunch, and in general to make it look more normal have the upper torso twisting in the same direction as the head kinda like how you drew it.

>>5164488
>fampi
is this a typo?

>>5164499
Its obviously a mix of f am and senpai, retard. Do you even anime

>>5164079
So you know the problem with translating anime to 3D is that there's a point where anime/manga leans on exaggeration, right? As >>5164478 mentions, exaggerating in 3D is possible but it's extra work to make things stylistically correct rather than accurate in perspective.

2D on a good day knows how to lie.
3D on a bad day is too honest.

>>5164516
>>5164478
I can look at real anime figures and 3d anime models and they have smaller bridges and ridges for the nose.
Are you saying that they're all wrong?

>>5164526
Obviously they’re not wrong, but it is less interesting to take a calculated approach at all angles for anime.

>>5164028
the point of view from the feets to the trashcan? is from above but her knees and everything up is in complete front view just like the hair but her head is tilting up, makes the hair look like is growing from the right corner of her forehead, her torso looks like a streched band... her arm looks tiny but it's meant to be foreshertened right? that angle is aids but the fold in the inner elbow should be higher and if you see the direction of her forearm and fingers you can see that they are separated her forearm is going to her butt lol.........YIKES

see in 3D...

>>5164697
Why do you guys keep bringing up 3D itt

>>5164028
The anatomy is very broken there. What pose were you trying to make her do? I don't know where to give pointers because I honestly can't understand what she's doing. The biggest offense is that left arm and hand, it looks detached.

are there any other courses like this that will give me the asian gene?
https://en.class101.net/products/zeronis

>>5164896
Zeronis is shit though. Used to be a decent concept artist, but ever since he went the anime route his stuff just became broken anatomy with shitty rendering.

>>5164923
>t
is this the work of that dude? how long is been drawing and when was this drawn?

>>5164981
Pic related was in 2013. Pic above was 5/30/2020.

>>5165008
jesus fuck

>>5165008
How much does riot pay for this anyway

>>5165008
No way. Did you flip the dates? The style is one thing but what the fuck happened to the anatomy and rendering

>>5164177
I always thought it was the eyes, it might be the nose! I am going to study hard about anime faces.
Variations in hue to colors noted!
I am trying to Caravaggio the anime character with impossible spotlight. I will have to work on that! Thanks for the C&C! I needed it.

>>5165008
Saw this was made in 2020 too. Honestly id be sticking to simplified work like this too. League art is technically impressive but fucking over detailed to hell

>>5164506
I anime but I don't normie lmao

>>5165229
Shutup lmao

>>5164695>>5164882

sorry i don't quite understand. I tilted her head up to be more dynamic and and the right shoulder is lifted up to eat the icecream. I get the left arm foreshortening looking bad, hopefully this looks a bit better. She's also meant to be young so her curves wouldn't show as much for her sides
I'm not sure i understand waht else looks wrong.

>>5165008
>>5165034
>>5165052
>>5165071
>>5165167
Riot has over 6 artist all working for one splash art, So if you think someone made the final splash art is bullshit. They make good money too like last i heard between 3k- 10k a commission, if your freelancing, but that dude genuinely makes decent pieces for the style. I think bashing this dude because he drew anime is a weak cope considering he's a very successful artist

>>5156354
Not him but muscles often deform in very non intuitive ways and it's often multiple muscles that contribute to the bulk of a form, each with their own deform pattern. An extreme example but if you're skinny try rotating your forearm and hand at the same time, different landmarks and different shapes. It's worth learning anatomy.

>>5164426
Hi anon I really love your drawing <3

How do you go from this?

>>5165440
you hire slaves to do the tedious parts

>>5165440
To this

>>5165442
>SF3_elena_sprites

rotoscoping. there are 4 cuts there and each character probably had their own animator. some of the stuff is definitely 3d like the props for the chip bag and the rock. the second cut which is really short might be all 3d/in something like after effects.

>>5165477
If there's 3d in that sequence, then it's some of the most advanced shaders I have ever seen in my life. Literally all of it looks hand drawn, including all props and background elements. It's just rotoscoping, nothing fancy.

>>5165442
who buy individually wrapped chips

>>5165442
>>5165489
Why do you keep posting this? Just draw

>>5165442
because the background are dead and flat.

>>5154124
Here's new Toshi's book that I just bought and uploaded:
>[Toshi] Super Skill! Techniques for Drawing People: How to capture the essence of the lines and bring out the details
https://exhentai.org/g/1835400/10425e30d7

If you want PDF link, I uploaded it here >>5165503

>>5165347
Thing is, if you're trying to sell a course to others, maybe your art shouldn't look amateur half the time. He's got great fundies, but it just seems like he can't apply them properly on more stylized drawing. His rendering on semi-realistic stuff looks way better, and at least it hides the wonky anatomy and shit faces. Not like picrel.

>>5165440
>>5165442
to THIS???
https://twitter.com/typhtn/status/1294952305733668864?s=20

>>5165614
Are you Asian?

>>5165640
Yes.

>>5165641
Is it safe to assume that your art is good? could you post your work?

>>5165672
No, I'm not good at all. Sorry to disappoint.

>>5165684
I don't believe you.

>>5165440
>>5165442
He could at least ask his female friend to walk for him to rotoscope. She walks like a man

>>5165721
Does typehatena look like someone who has female friends?

>>5165343
I understand you tried to add dynamism but just moving the head won't cut it. There's no contraposto (look at classical greek sculptures to see what I mean) and everything is rigid and stiff.

The way you made her arm move in the back is very jarring, not only because the hand on her hip is very broken, but also because her two elbows are aligned horizontally when they shouldn't be; Since she is moving her arms in the back and upwards, the elbow should follow suite - and be place higher.

The head is misconstructed too. It's not aligned with the cranium's shape, and imo, it would look better if the mouth was more centered and smaller - the way you placed it, it makes her look like she's missing a chin.

I tried redrawing it, I hope it follows the idea you had originally. I think you should absolutely work on your construction and gestures, you're biting more than you can chew at your current level.

>>5165957
thank you

>>5165614
based, I'm sure there are some moneyfags who'd contribute to the translation

>>5165442
ok this is just uncanny... reminds me of DMC5 where the characters look like real people thus turning them styleless and soulless

>>5165442
rotoscoping, if you ask me it looks a bit soulles in this example but if you like it...

bit uncanny the animation in this scene.

>>5165347
>all working for one splash art
well looking at the process videos from some of them that's utter bs. One guy creates it from scratch till finished, and then it get's animated by a different guy or the same one if he knows how to do it

Final Fantasy black mage.

>>5166684
look notice how his body parts enlarge as you go down the drawing?
did you intend perspective?

What is the recommended video course for learning how to colour anime girls?

>>5166828
there aren't any. paid video courses are a scam and your favorite artists didn't learn from them.

i feel like there's 2 years of training to go from step 2 to 3 and i don't like that he doesn't even acknowledge, feels a bit draw the rest of the owl esque.

>>5167350
welcome to tutorials. add another 2 years to go from 3 to 4

>>5167350
>>5167358
Can't tell if you're joking? Surely if you can draw a symmetrical head in perspective it's not too tall of an order to fill in the irises of the eyes and draw a few assorted strands for hair??

>>5166684
Her clothes are ballooned around her. They should hug the body more even if they are baggy.

>>5167369
>that pic

Ngmi. Drapery should look like this

What does your drawing schedule look like?
Do you guys do pomodoro or something?

>>5167829
I draw when I feel like it and take breaks when I need to

how imma doingz?

>>5167832
At what intervals normally?
How long do you draw a day?

>>5167844
Depends. Sometimes I draw almost all day and even forget to eat. Other days maybe an hour or so

>>5156412
New batch, but this time with torsos. Let myself get carried away with some stuff I enjoyed here and decided to throw in some quick cast shadows for the heck out of it

>>5167843
>tracing over a model
I'm not going to praise a crutch.

>>5154124
I'm never gonna have the patience to draw backgrounds like these.

>>5167930
I like how "simple" he keeps his backgrounds compared to some bgs other anime artists do.

>>5165347
>Riot has over 6 artist all working for one splash art
One artist, one AD, one animator and three graphic designers for post. Not six different artists bouncing that shit back and forward between them that'd be the most retarded way to do art ever.

>>5167884
I recognize the top girls, what are the girls below called? Sexy robot hips and legs.
In think you should try to define the area below the ribcage more for the more complete drawings.

>>5165440
Ask the animation thread

>>5161000
Incel chin but the rest looks nice. Nice shading on the hait.

OKAY /asg/ SHOULD I COPY OR DRAW FROM IMAGINATION IF MY FUNDIES AREN'T /BEG/ BUT NOT /INT/ EITHER?

>>5168487
Draw from imagination while still having a goal, steal elements from other artists' styles, I think you don't need to copy anymore.

>>5167891
>Boo hoo hoo, you must only draw from mind Boo hoo hoo.

Sketching one of my characters in bastardized Miura style, might finish this one.

How's my anime?

>>5168579
Whoa cool

>>5167393
no, it should look like THIS

idk.. is the waist correct? should that part that i arrowed be visible should the other leg be visible altought im not planning on finish it or take it further i still want to know... ugh...

>>5168670
shading so bad

>>5167843
>>5168547
Holy manbaby

>>5167884
Very nice. You are extremely GMI

Everyone says to use the ribbon method to draw hair but it makes it come out extremely flat

>>5169613
how do you give your hair volume like this

I'm liking this style a lot, do any of you guys know some anime in this style or artists that have a similar style to this one?

>>5169764
Okusan seems to have a similar artsyle

>>5169794
woops forgot picture

Can you guys please explain to me how I practice and improve drawing art?
I really don't know.
Is it something to do with the fundamentals? How do i practice them?

>>5167884
gmi, have you ever got commissions?

>>5170087
drawing, observing, copying, improving your drawing, do over and over.

>>5169613
>>5169617
Not everyone says to use the ribbon, but getting a grasp on it will certainly help you out. You can use a combination of the ribbons and form. learning to manipulate the ribbon can let you to form them in and out of shapes that have more volume.

>>5170146
ty, I'm already proficient with the ribbon but I suck when it comes to translating it to form with volume
I hate that my hair look like pic exemple instead of >>5169617
any advice on how to level up from this?

>>5170087
Do you know what the fundamentals are?
Do you have shape and line practice? How often?

Can you guys please explain to me how you practice and improve drawing?
I really don't know.
Please give explain in detail

>>5170418
go to beg, read the sticky

>>5168634
Anyone wanna comment on this?
What are the biggest issues?

>>5154748
if you have to ask you lack the basic artistic confidence every artist needs to succeed
don't worry about specific git gud quick schemes just enjoy the process of drawing and work on complete pieces
once you have that confidence people like him or loomis depending on how you visualize art more mechanically or abstractly. Him being more abstract finding the flow of art more than the construction

>>5170170
you need to imagine the strands more like a arched tentacle than a ribbon.
keep in mind that the turning points are more compact, they need to be thicker
my example here may not be the best but is that I learned by trial and error than than reference

>>5168634
>>5170429
I can't draw but maybe the biggest problems are the face of the guy/girl(?) on the left, you should try drawing it using profile view, so you shouldn't draw all the jaw line and show more neck, something like the white haired girl. Also for the right girl, I think you kinda fucked up the collar bone especially her left part.

I recommend looking at Kiyotaka Oshiyama's redline book where he corrects all kind of /beg/ drawings, it might give you a hint.

>>5170462
sounds like a cool book, is it in the collections in the book threads?

>>5170463
it's on exhentai
https://exhentai.org/g/1508582/e58c305af2/
http://13dl.net/%e6%8a%bc%e5%b1%b1%e6%b8%85%e9%ab%98-%e4%bd%9c%e7%94%bb%e6%b7%bb%e5%89%8a%e6%95%99%e5%ae%a4.html

>>5170467
thanks bro!

>>5170463
>>5170471
also copying various drawings from anime settei (basically character design sheets) probably going to help you to develop a sense to draw character's face from various angles.
https://setteidreams.net/
Look at the settei section.

For example I love Takahiro Kishida's drawings his design sheets for baccano provide good materials for studying.

>>5170476
cool sutff, thanks!

>>5170460
damn I see it now
reading the hair shapes as a squid makes me understand the volume and wtf is going on
your post was not wasted, ty

Not muscular enough

>>5154124
Does Ryza fuck the redhead or the shota?

Protip: Jack off before you start drawing and your art will look less juvenile and stupid

>>5170911
Highschool notebook tier. I bet you were the best otaku out of all your classmates, huh?

>>5171404
Lol

Rate my hair.

>>5171423
It looks like fingers

That's 'cos a man's hand is clamped around her neck.

>>5171435
Who are you talking to

I'm a better artist than Walt Disney

>>5171435
>>5171447

meant for >>5171430

I did a bunch of head studies from some drawings done by Yoh Yoshinari. they're from a book of his rough sketches and stuff. even though they seem like mindless doodles for him, he gives the drawings interesting head tilts or draws them from challenging angles... he makes it look pretty effortless

>>5171686
and then I did some without reference afterward. I tried keeping it pretty loose, but a lot of them came out really wonky and formless. let me know what you think

>>5171691
Good work, anon, I'm proud of you. Keep at it.

Why are there so many methods of doing the same thing. How do I know which method to use?

I just wanna draw cute anime faces why is it so fucking complicated

>>5171691
>>5171686
rad studies m8 keep it up

>>5172070
The loomis method is by far the most popular.

>Try to do unorthodox pose
>Struggle massively
FUCK! How the fuck do I stop being so bad!

>>5172140
just accept you don't have what it takes to make the drawing look good currently and try again after your skill improve.

>>5172157
I can't. Its the last remaining panel for a commission and I need to finish it if I want to go back to proper regular practice.

Gawr gura but greenland shark

>>5168840
such great advice you give.

>>5172070
I was in the searching of the same thing and found that best is standard Japanese method from most serious "how to draw anime" books with sphere and shovel-like piece of plane. This is simplification of Loomis method, also it's usable to do Loomis sphere truncation (which isn't all anime guides does) for easier ears placement. It was in the Houtengeki's book. Also you can use rotation tables from guides if you has difficulties with 3D acceleration in you head.

>>5154124
when I was a kid I copied drawings all the time, the problem is everything that comes after..

my line-art looks abhorrent and I have no clue how to color stuff, I always drew with charcoal and sanguigna, I really don't know where to go from here

Okay, I've taken the anime pill. I like the style and that's how I want to draw. Now how do I make my art go from Tumblrfag to animefag?

>>5167884
this light shadow westerner approach is kinda cringe, I've noticed weeb drawers recycle the same shit they've seen somewhere thinking it's good

>>5173280
be japanese and draw 18h a day

>>5173292
Tell us the secret asian jeans wisdom of light and shadow.

>>5173280
start by copying the character settei (maybe official artbook), copyrighted illustration just like the one you posted, also started looking at sakugabooru clip and try copy pose or drawing that you find interesting.
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=sengoku_basara+

By the way the pic you posted was drawn by Yuuga Tokuno (the animator's name is credtied in top left.
https://w.atwiki.jp/sakuga/pages/1844.html
He single handedly draw all the episode 9 of Boku Dake ga Inai Machi, so maybe I'd try looking at that too to see if
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=yuuga_tokuno+
It doesn't necessarily mean that he has his own style though, animators can draw anime pretty well (duh) because they're flexible and can follow the instruction and design from character designer. The key is copying, and keep drawing.

good lord this thread is always a dumpster fire, go learn the basic fundies ffs

>>5173395
pyw

>>5173407
open hand thread on warosu

>>5173163
>rotation tables from guides
What do those look like?

>>5173251
Work on your line weight. I was in the same boat as you back in high school, it took me forever but once I realized that line weight was a thing my art improved a lot. Coloring is another hurdle but having good looking lines will help even flat colors look good.

>>5173569
the pic you posted is a horrible example of what proper line weight should look like

>>5173581
Cool, feel free to post a better one then! The main thing is just adding line weight to intersecting lines and areas with depth.

>>5173588
your pic is for capeshit. you straight up wouldn't draw lines that thick at all when you're inking, it's irrelevant to this thread. adding line weight to intersecting lines and areas with depth is more of a western rule than japanese. it makes lines look worse when you have a thick glob of ink at T-intersections.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCNVjDIIA3Y&t=1m3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szeqGXp5LFg&t=2m36s

>>5173633
its just about the concept. a direction, not the end. geez get a life larper.

>>5173642
>geez get a life larper.
you asked to post a better example, one was provided. now you resort to getting defensive and ad hominem, nice.

>>5171691
>>5172073
>>5171710
thanks bros. the thread's in autosage now but I did another small page of floating anime heads. they still look pretty western but I don't mind it too much. let me know what you think

>>5173653
Not even the same anon, anyway you could have just posted a link in your first post if you wanted to be helpful instead of just complaining.

This is a video I found helpful, timestamp is included in link where he talks about line weight: https://youtu.be/-ATcdH7aRJc?t=877

>>5173633
how am I supposed to control the thickness of the line with a shitty smooth tablet that requires me to press a lot to even keep the line steady?

>>5173715
What type of tablet do you have anon? You may need to adjust your pressure sensitivity if you have to press really hard. Most art programs have some form of line stabilization that you can enable, normally in brush settings. If you're just starting with digital then it will also just take some time and practice to get comfortable with it, you won't immediately be able to produce the same results as you could traditionally.

>>5173163
>Houtengeki
Not in the mega in the OP, unless I'm blind and the search function doesn't work

>>5173715
draw flat lines and erase to get the line weight you want
https://youtu.be/qNWwJji7h2o?t=400

i don't like using tablet pressure for line weight at all, it's a waste of time to me compared to doing it irl or erasing.

>>5173292
other eastern artists use the same shading style, silly

>>5173910
not with that eye searing yellow and the shitty shadow shapes they drew

>>5162750
dont say anything, just fix it nephew

New Thread:
>>5174526
>>5174526
>>5174526

>>5173729
wacom bamboo fun & touch I got years ago

>>5173780
>>i don't like using tablet pressure for line weight at all, it's a waste of time to me compared to doing it irl or erasing.

only people I see that are able to do it with a tablet have those expesive as fuck cintiqs, don't know if it's a matter of that or whatever