/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

okay laddies, today, im gonna show you how to turn an otherwise useless thread, into something interesting.

Step 1 - open a canvas with the golden ratio proportions, thats a canvas where the Length is 1 : 1.61 proportional to the width.

You can find any pixel size by just multiplying/dividing some number, like 777px, by 1.61 which will give you 486px.
777px x 486px is a personally favorite of mine. But hey since it's 2021, lets do 1264px by 2021px.

That sounds neat huh?

Now, let's take a closer look at our source material >>5168236

So now I've got my source material open and a scaled version of the Kabbalah tree of life (from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life_(Kabbalah)#/media/File:Tree_of_life_bahir_Hebrew.svg) into our golden ratio canvas, which, as you will see shortly, is the key to drawing an unnaturally thicc woman with huge tits and ass.

I've also got a 100% pink screen layer, 25% orange multiply layer, the image of the kabbalah tree (which I've made the white transparent easily with edit>convert brightness to opacity) and a 100% totally middle grey layer underneath it all.

Seems weird right? It will all connect shortly.

Now I've created a new layer called SKETCH and made it blue for easier recognition (which can be done with the box to the left of the world normal in the layers box)

I've also decided to further push down the opacity of the kabbalah tree down to 25%.

My pen of choice, will be a hard round based G-pen that will probably vary in size but the key points that enable a good line are 1) sharp angles setting is enabled 2) stabilization is 100% 3) stabilize by speed is off 4) tilt is completely unused 5) settings of pen pressure are pulled down until you have a circle with two tails coming out of it like in the picture.

Now on the blue SKETCH layer, we are going to use a full black color to draw, which because it is under the orange 25% multiply layer and 100% pink screen layer, it is going to come out, a "process red color", thats the color we want anyways for maximum appeal.

I'm going to first draw a vertical line like you do when you do the 8 heads tall figure measurement like in loomis.

Next I'm going to wrap the head of our character around the top circle of the tree, and not really worry if it's 1/8 the head size or shit, we aren't worried about the head size or valid proportions, we just want HUGE tits and ass.

Next, I'm going to draw eyes that look like the letter ה in hebrew. Doesn't that letter look like a little anime eye?

<(ה.ה)> < ---- elvish gal looking to the side

and a mouth, and some ears, and a nose.

Now I'm going to start drawing with PURE WHITE on the grey layer, which will turn out an off white color thanks to the orange multiply.

I'm going to also add a drop shadow on the neck and head intersection, which gives our light source.

Then I'm going to outline the head, because of whitelining (vilppu talks about this) which shows an objects edge overlap and is 100% real and happens in reality, (stare at the edge of any object, you should notice a slight blur outline hovering around where two objects intersect)

>>5168311
keep it going bro

Now this part is weird, but bear with me, ok So IMAGINE that below the collarbone, or hell do it yourself, clasp your hands together and press them against your sternum, now look in a mirror, got that memorized? you're going to basically draw that same clasped hand thingy but instead the "elbows" are going to wrap around two circles like in the picture.

Weird or not, this is the beginning of the huge titties.

Next step is super simple, just a line that wraps around this next circle for the belly

>>5168236
here is your (You) meds bro
lets go back to /beg/

Next is the hips, which line up vertically with the breasts because they are literally THAT fucking thicc, they also wrap around these two circles

>>5168343
Holy fuck bro, this guy is a fucking sage and a weirdo.

Whats your social. Imma follow you.

>>5168347
Oh no you ain’t going anywhere! The ritual has already started, and you’re gonna see it through to its completion!!

>>5168343
kek I was out several posts ago but now im curious where you’re even going with this

>>5168349
Come on man this is truly a rare and epic moment of /ic/

>>5168351

kek https://dezgardez.newgrounds.com/
and pixiv dot me slash desgardes

next is the inner thighs and belly button

>>5168349
You're extremely based, I would let you bang my wife, o wise one.

next is the beginning of the bottom of the legs, just some curved ellipses is all

Now we drop the tree layer, start adding some details to the lower body, feet and crotch.

So the arms are another weird area, right?

How am I supposed to put arms on this BEAST without it looking weird, having crazy manly shoulders like in the OP

simple, you have them logically fall where they do on the actual person, mid-thigh, and you do that part correctly, which requires me to do a semi-sketch underneath

>>5168370
All your fucking girls are thiccc

>>5168387
Literally a fat goddess statue

>>5168418

hey someone's art history wise! I actually made that exact statue in my 3d modeling clay class lol .

anywho next is the arms/hands layer finished, we remove the sketchy layer underneath.

>>5168424
Bro, you madlad top kek. Continue pls

Next we outline the figure, add some bg and shadow, and some more highlights!

K now we can finally start drawing the OP because we have our base, we start with the hair...

work on the face some more...

>>5168445
I feel skeptical about the format of the background you used, looks like a sacred hebrew poster made for the torah or something. Interesting way to make drawings of humanized fertility sculptures

>>5168454

It's the kabbalah tree of life, its just the eminations from god, I'm well versed in this shit, trust me you can think of this all as "The holy thickness that radiates from god"

more face

sorry took a short break to smoke some tobacco, drink some coffee and shave

will resume shortly

Now these rules, I learned from pixel art:

1) Dark blue, especially when half opacity'd with the process red makes an excellent substitute for black.

2) reuse colors AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, if you can use the same red in the hair outline in the skin, do it. You want to minimize the end result of colors, not have thousands of shades, which just just looks overdone and messy. You want clean, crisp, vibrant in color forms that all overlap nicely with good color harmony. which brings me to my next point

3)Have you noticed I don't fuck with the opacity of the brush at all? I always use 100% but instead change the opacity of the layers to 50% for example if I want a thinner brush. This creates consistency and you know to select the same pure black and that you're on a 50% layer opacity rather than create dozens of extra shades by fucking with opacity of the brush setting.

Everything at this point, is just the following: Eyedrop the colors you've already used, create layers with 100% opacity if you want that color to continue as is, and shade with pure black 50% or even 25% opacity layers.

and then just clean up, clean up, clean up all your lines and forms.

This is the part where you can have some fun, just drop a color somewhere and see if it looks good, if it doesn't; just undo.

Remember, in color, you want an overarching principle color (loomis goes into this in creative illustration) in our case its the pinkish and yellowish tones, and you want everything else to stem from that, and be present in multiple places.

if for example, i decided to add a roof of a building in the background, i would consider using the girls hair (orange) for the roof color and maybe her skin tone for the wall colors. REUSE colors almost to a stupid level.

If for whatever reason, I decide I'm straying too far from the original reference in color, I can just scoop up and color pick the original references color hair, but put it on top of all my colors at 50% opacity. (which i have done, i made the hair more closer to the original) This creates a harmony where you can follow any kind of references color, but you still get that pleasing color harmony amongst your own chosen palette.

again, im reusing color as much as possible, the off white yellowish color, im using it in the skin, in the hairband, i could even go so far to use it in the cherries in her hair, or hell the leaves in hair, it just takes practice and experimentation and judgement of "oh ok that looks pleasant and natural" versus "eww ugly why would i ever put those two colors together"

again, just more color picking, and 50% layers experimentation

and just more 50% layers over and over again, color picking, we're using our lack of confidence to our advantage, I really don't know how this picture is going to turn out (good news for you fellow autists that can't imagine well) and thus we play it safe and just keep adding layers upon layers. if we get the lame overlay of shades we don't like, you know the one i'm talking about, we're its like 50% too bright and you don't want it there, you just color pick the level you want and set a new layer at 100% opacity and draw over the parts you don't want.

right here is what i'm talking about in the prvious post, where it's obvious the artist just didn't set the opacity right and it looks cheesy and lame

so how do we fix those errors without losing our intention of the form we want?

Simple, we color pick what we want, and create a new layer with 100% opacity and clean the fuck out of it. make it look nice and almost vector quality.

Now at this point, I'm 100% certain the more seasoned pros are looking at me like "Boxman, 36 layers? really? how the fuck are you going to find your original lineart if you need to edit it?"

Well this is where I'll give my philosophy on layers, obviously don't just create a stupid amount of 50% opacity layers, but also don't waste time thinking "Gee could I save a layer or two? " why? it's not a finite resource (unless your cpu sucks or something) and yes, technically I really do need every single layer of those 36 layers to complete my picture and occassionally i find myself just clicking through layer visibility icons of little eyes trying to find THAT DAMN SKIN TONE LAYER or whatever, but in general, I just make a new layer whenever it's needed or I just feel like it. No need to create a separate skin tone layer, rather, the combination of the two colors i picked, the multiply 25% orange and pink 100% screen and 100% middle grey (which you add black and white to) creates the skin tone by subtraction. or inclusion. or whatever, by elimination! you get it !

whoa... so this is how a sepiroth tree is used... but how do I rotate boxes, or anime girls by that matter, with it?

>>5168685

That is an excellent looking question, one so excellent, I'm being told by my producers, one we don't sadly, unfortunately don't have an answer to.

I'm only kidding! Of course the tree of life can fall into 1 point perspective, (the origin point of the horizon falls where the Da'at sefirot should go)

From here we can start to turn our round forms into box forms.

>>5168702
this bitch cant even walk

Ok so at this point I'm going to assume (assumption is the mother of all fuckups btw) that you have gone to this thread >>5161627

opened the vilppu folder on box forms, watched the whole hour long session, and memorized how to draw a box with simple shading.

What? you haven't? Don't tell me you also don't know how the fibonacci sequence applies to creating natural looking perspective?

Jesus crust. Fine, then before I dive into applying box forms to this bitch, we need to have lesson in shading a box.

I'm going to start by opening a new canvas that is in the golden ratio once more (necessary for creating natural perspective btw) one exactly like in >>5168260

and then I'm going to create two points of perspective using only lines, 50% opacity.

>>5168731
Good, means she can't get away from me

>>5168731

Neither can your mother. Especially in that short skirt she's wearing ; ^ )

Anyways next I'm going to take that two point perspective layer, copy it, rotate it 90degrees on a new layer, 25% opacity.

color one pink using the lock transparency tool, color the other teal, and bam four point perspective in the golden ratio bitches.

So next, is a weak spot for your boy boxman, i kinda suck at perspective and logical thinking but I'm going to try my best.

We're going to ignore the top vanishing point and just use three points to create a box in THREE point perspective.

Ok so now erase, erase, erase, and ta-da? we have a wonky-ass box in 3 point perspective with a horizon line.

We're going to apply shading next, but remember, the whole point of doing stupid exercises like these is to do them ad nauseam to the point that you don't have to think about it anymore and it just becomes an integrated tool in your MIND (like jun gi? that the dudes name w/e the asian guy who does the insane perspective drawings, you know the one) and thus begins to occur in your art naturally and organically.

First we select the side of the box with magic wand tool, and drop some gradient shading with varying opacities (just drag the layer opacity slider until it looks good, then do it again, on a new layer, repeat until you have something really crisp and nice looking.)

in my case it ended up being three layers of spraypaint can bounded by the magic wand tool wiith the following respective opacities: 31% 43% 31%

now select the whole box. if you're using CSP, look for the magic wand tool, then make sure you have ADD selections enabled, otherwise you're going to be clicking areas one by one instead of adding to the selection each time.

Now create a new layer with a filled in black shape like such. take this time to correct and clean any little sketchy lingering hiccup lines that might still be present from isolating the box from the perspective grid so you end up with a nice, clean silhouette.

Now drop the opacity of the black shape until it "clicks/feels right/looks natural"

for me I stopped at 50% opacity when I said damn thats a fine looking box.

Now, if you're like me, and you made a layer where it contains your sketch and white space, and you want to isolate the lines quickly by getting rid of the white space; CSP has this handy dandy feature right here "convert brightness to opacity" which will give me what i want, which is that i want to color the black lines on the box greys and white to make it look natural.

>>5168800
Why did you make this thread mate, this is some high level autism infodumping. Are you genuinely autistic? Not even as an imageboard zinger like seriously

and now i click "lock transparent pixels" so that all lines i draw will only fall on the outlines of the box

>>5168806

technically i didn't make this thread m8 : ^ )

>an autistic retard makes a thread
>a bigger autistic retard out autisms him while acting smug about it
fantastic thread so far

>>5168816
Is there any other info on how to make coom from th3 Kabal?

>>5168816
I disagree

>>5168819

woaahhhhh heyyyy easyyy there uhhh buddy, hey im not being smug, i'm sharing free information, which is what /ic/ WAS/IS/USED to be about.

you're the weird one m8, nobody is smug but (you) and joe.

joe momma.

Just saying, No.5168819 is completely wrong.

So what are your aactual thoughts on her.?

>>5168819
>it’s spergs on spergs this friday Friday FRIDAY for ONE NIGHT ONLY at the ART board here at 4chan.org. Page after page of autistic rage on a stage. We’ve got INFODUMPING, poor SOCIAL skills and a complete and utter INABILITY to read the room. LETS GET READY TO RUMBEEEEEEEEEEEEELLEEEEEEEE

No seriously any thoughts on the drawing in my original post?

>>5168836

my thoughts? what were your intentions dear, because despite the good color choices, and good design taste, i'm afraid your anatomy and formal knowledge is a tad lacking.

Do you have a reference of the kind of level of art you wish to achieve?

I'm sorry I hijacked your thead.

>>5168842
Don’t be sorry about it. At least you tried.

Now what about the original design do you think I should change?

>>5168845

The design is fine, i can tell you have good taste, you just need to work on learning how to shade, anatomy, lighting perspective, how to create a environment, and how to do all that while making it look pleasant.

I'm 28 years old and have been drawing since I was about 5. Now I'm afraid to ask your age, since I assume you're a lady and could possibly be underage, so I will instead ask how many years have you been drawing, and how many years of your life are you willing to commit to studying and is art the no 1 thing you care about above everything else, ie, is it your passion, your main mode of expression, aka how you make sense of the world.?

>>5168858
Well I was planning to do shading and background on it. But I haven’t even started yet so I can’t show.

>>5168869
For starters, you should post in the designated /beg/ thread for beginners instead of creating a new thread for your own picture - it’s part of the local etiquette.

>>5168877
But we don't have one?

>>5168984
Learn to use the catalog newfriend

>>5168236
terrible

learn anatomy & use guidelines
if you are not spending 3 hours or more on your are, then you are not doing enough

>>5168236
I'll bite. You know how sometimes it's so hard to pick the perfect shade and it just looks off? Yeah, we live in the future. Pantone exists. Their site is full of color harmony porn. They have a Case Studies section on their site that's good reading, too, but that's totally unrelated to this. Basically, your colors clash and not in a good way, but you had the right idea. Just tweak it.

Anatomy needs a lot of work, but I'm not about to roast you on something you already know.

I think design-wise, this could be cute but the socks should be stocks or thigh highs, or if you're going knee highs, the skirt should be shorter. Cuts the legs off otherwise. Would you be offended if I did a redraw?

>>5169467
coolors.co is also a good palette site.

>>5169467

I don't they would be offended if you did a redraw. Seeing your design in another person's style is a high on its own anyways.

Figure I might as well finish this drawing since NOW everybody, PageEmp, knows to use the /beg/ thread >>5168786 instead of making their own thread : )

>>5169703
Moarrrr

>>5168837

also addendum

its

>WATCH AS NORMIES CRINGE AT AUTISTS ACTUALLY MAKE ART AS WE GET DOWN and ready tooooo RUUMBBBLLLLEEEEE

>>5169728
its not even that good is the worst part

what was the point of the box, am i missing something

>>5169728
You are literally the based god
Do you have any online art accounts I can follow?

internet moment ladies and gentlemen.

>>5169739
Not fat enough make it wider

>>5169728
Nice but feet bruh.

>>5169728
This thread is glorious. Thank you for your presence, Mr. Box an.

What even is this thread

>>5169728
This is the first time Ive ever browsed more than 5 seconds of this board and now I see why
I simply am not ready. I'm not nearly strong enough.

>>5170179
>>5168370

>>5169739
My heart wasn't in it, I'm capable of much better like pic related but I thought people would just be interested in how to attain the thiccness from the kabbalah tree method

>>5170160

I was going to show how to use box forms on the thicc girl but then i got sidetracked by the mean comments

>>5170160

the point of the box was i was going to say how you should just memorize how to shade the following scene and use it as a go to for shading box forms when you have nothing else

>>5170160
>>5170921
>>5170912

yeah so basically to start the box forms you do kind of a isometric perspective and the whole thing looks kinda like cubism idk

>>5170961
Are those polygons?? Im gonna coooom

>>5170909
hey, i saw you in the draw thread last week

>>5170599
Picking up good good good good vibrations.

>>5168260
>open a canvas with the golden ratio proportions, thats a canvas where the Length is 1 : 1.61 proportional to the width.
Thanks

>>5170599
Really funny.

Is this a stealth ‘draw in your own style’ thread?

>>5168236
Damn how big is her dick

>>5178792
Bigger than yours, definitely.

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