/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5150085
>lets ask a bunch of unproductive, neurotic, salty, crabby people who happen to be your competition what you should price your work at

>>5150085
Reminder that you can't price somebody's work solely by looking at it's quality.
The notoriety of an artist is much more important in that regard.

>>5150085
$45

me next!

>>5150085
probably include how long this took you or it's hard to judge.
$10-$15

>>5150085
HOURLY WAGE

>>5150085
>Start with telling me how much my work (pic related) is worth please.
0

>>5150109
that guy gets an alert on his phone whenever these threads get created, he's on his way as we speak

>>5150097
>Reminder that you can't price somebody's work solely by looking at it's quality.
Sure you can! Just watch:
>>5150085
Int level, but kinda meh style. Furries are good customers, but it's not porn. And portraits are useful if you were doing avatars - there are potential clients in here. I'd say 20-30$ if you're lucky and they like your style.

>>5150103
Traditional gives +20 to appeal. Subject is a bit questionable - nudes are great, but if they're too explicit, people start wondering will they be able to show them off without coming off as creeps. More saturated colors and less shading with black would bump price more. As it is 80-100$.

>>5150109
Don't be silly. Your clients don't give a fuck about how long it took you.

>>5150085
market decides price, not a retarded thread on /ic/.

>>5150130
Retarded threads on /ic/ are market polling.

Oh boy, another masturbatory Brian thread full of people that have no idea how pricing commissions works.

>>5150157
yep, i'm getting into furry porn

>>5150109
>>5150119
Imagine being this butthurt about common advice.
I bet you think everyone that says "Loomis " is one person, too.

>>5150085
15$ get rid of the blur
>>5150103
850$ based trad coomer

>>5150132
The sad thing is, you might really believe that.

>>5150120
>Sure you can! Just watch:
All I see is BS from a nobody.

I'll repeat. You can't price someone's work only by looking at the quality of the art. If that was a thing, then there wouldn't be crappy commission artists that charge more than more skilled ones.

>>5150130
/thread

>>5150085
$40-50
>>5150103
$200-250

>>5150195
Don't bother, these threads are nothing but amateurs crabbing each other into charging pennies, and even non-artists legitimately trying to keep artists down.
Let them rot in their own waste.

>>5150195
>All I see is BS from a nobody.
Funny, I see the exact same thing while look at your post.

This is not really a worthwhile endeavor. Your art is worth what you will settle for, and just because someone ITT wouldn't pay for it at a certain price point doesn't mean you won't command that price.

What matters more is how many people are seeing your work and contacting you. If you have 500 people requesting commissions even if no one on /ic/ thinks it's worth money, then they're clearly wrong. No one here is paying you, so their idea of value means nothing.

Set your own rate, ask for as much as you can, and then work to justify that price. Fuck what anyone here tells you.

t. Someone who sucks but still gets paid

>>5150252
I see the exact same thing looking at yours

>>5150212
It looks so messy and unfinished with that sketch showing through. 15$

>>5150252
>no u

>>5150223
Good point. I just feel bad for all the beginners that waste their time and learn nothing.

>>5150085
Your art is shit furart.

>>5150103
begone cumfarti

>>5150253
who your customer is matters a lot. if you draw niche fetish porn you can get paid a much higher amount even if the quality sucks since few people draw that type of thing.

>>5150359
5k

>>5150366
hahah thanks bro

>>5150184
>get rid of the blur
I dunno. Doesn't it make it extra artistic and painterly?
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/lost-edges

What do you think anons? I don't like coloring.

>>5150397
>Doesn't it make it extra artistic and painterly?
In a way. But I promise you to 99/100 people, it just looks unfinished.

>>5150414
Here's a trad I did a few months ago. I'd draw more if I could get paid for it. I'm always afraid of wasting my time with things that don't get me income.

>>5150085
Should work on color theory. 50-70 usd I think.

>>5150421
Fair enough, thank you.

>>5150422
>I'm always afraid of wasting my time with things that don't get me income.
then why are you drawing western anime in pencils?

If you want to make money with traditional you need to paint and draw traditional subject matter. Anything else is pointless, illustration jobs have absolutely no traditional art in their pipeline, it's all digital at this point.

Unless a working illustrator wants to chime in and let me know if there's still any pencil on paper work done, but I was under the impression everything was digital now from concept to completion.

>>5150103
Don't paint with vertical strokes on a round surface, leg looks flat.

>>5150103
I wouldn’t take this if you’d pay me

>>5150456
wanna bet?

>>5150449
well heck. I thought as much.
>why are you drawing anime with graphite?
I only got into drawing because I was a bored and lonely child. I've mostly only used pencil and paper because I'm not really artistically creative.

I charged 15 for this

>>5150609
Your marketing skills are impressive.

What is the "standard" for 3 dollar porncommisions? I have no sample at the moment but I want to cash into brain-dead commers with low standards of any kind, no matter how cringe it is. I just want some extra cash.

>>5150645
>3 dollar
Jesus Christ dude.

>>5150657
I'm not willing to spend more than a couple of hours on a drawing and I don't think at my current level of skill anyone's gonna pay more. Then again >>5150609 makes me think I could actually start with 10$

>>5150085
> Think you are ready to sell your art?
Nope
> Have no idea what to begin to price it?
Living in a shitty third world country where $4/hour means you have well made it in life means that if I can do an artwork in 3 hours and charge $12 for it, then I'm set.
If I ever get good in a couple years, I'm gonna price out all you murican suckers

>>5150663
>$3 after a couple of hours of work

>>5150677
>I know, I'll subject myself to slave labor! That'll show those mean old first worlders!

>>5150422
Yeah. I was like that couple years ago (I mean the part on considering time wasted without making income). Now I only spend as much at work as absolutely needed to pay for my necessities and a little saving.

>>5150688
I was insecure but I think I should start loving myself some more, thanks anon I'm going to start with 7$

>>5150694
Not even close, dude.

>>5150704
How much do you charge for a drawing?
Post work

>>5150694
anon you have some serious self esteem problems, not even a cleaning lady would accept 7$ for HOURS of work, it's not about loving yourself it's about decency

I get you are feeling weak because you charge for shit but you should never start this low, it means you value your art like it's nothing and that's a very COFF pardon the meme word toxic way of thinking, you also risk basically insulting the commissioner because you charge so little he will expect a fucking stick man with a doodled penis

believe in u

>>5150609

>>5150712
You could try charging more than minimum wage, for a start.

>>5150718
I'm going to start with 15$ and see where it goes from there then. I was thinking of "name your price" schemes too but I'm not sure if that's a good idea. If no one bites then I guess I will just keep practicing.
thanks fren

>>5150085
Consider investing in a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better aid you in answering these sorts of questions. I'd suggest that you get yourself a recent copy of "The Graphic Artist's Guild Handbook of Pricing and Ethical Guidelines" as it contains information all graphic artists and their clients need to buy and sell work in a professional manner.

While print media is a bit pricey, it's well worth the investment, but I would also suggest you check out a copy from your library, or ask any pros you know of if the handbook is aligned with what your goals. However, if you've found you'd like to read his book, but find money is an issue for you, you should be able to find past editions copies through torrent sites.

https://www.goodreads.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=graphic+artists+guild+handbook

>>5150609
Speech increased to 100

>>5150735
AH UUUHH AHHAAAHHH OOOOHHHHHH NUUHHUUUUU IM COOOMNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG

$369,69

>>5150776
based coomer

>>5150085
I'd happily pay £150 (GBP)+ for that.

I have no idea what my skill level is worth. I like my lineart, but my colouring is subpar imo.

>>5150765
This gets mentioned every thread, but the people here never learn.
Any kind of advice here is met with hostility and denial.

>>5150814
30$

>>5150414
>>5150422
60+$ easily

>>5150212
5$
>>5150796
30+

>>5150837
Brother, you wound me.

POST THE COOM BROS

>>5150814
ortamommy I think your lines are phenomenal and maybe you could look into artists that render a little better and especially those that push their value range to make your stuff pop. seriously I love how supple and soft your forms look
I'd pay 70 squids m8
>>5150796
very cute, work on more appealing proportions and focus on hands and neck/torso construction. the fabric for her top looks great it just needs some variation. Great colour choices
£15 as it needs a more polished look and more appeal
>>5150735
Nice confident lines, her expression looks like she got distracted by a unicorn off in the distance though. maybe work on some shading and value studies as right now the only thing that pops is her eye. £25
cba to do more. keep improving and ask yourself and others after every finished piece how you can improve so you don't stagnate. if you're not making finished pieces fix that first, you're never not good enough to make them, and they are invaluable for a clear assessment to what you need
WAGMI

>>5150814
i mean i think this looks good for what it is, i just don't know what someone would pay for it.

I'd pay nothing because I wouldn't buy it in the first place, but that's not helpful for you.

I guess just going by similar things I see in that skill level I'd say that'd go for like $200?

>>5150862
well post something that isnt just a drawing from the thigh up. besides that theres a ton of anatomical errors that stick out too much for me and muscles/fat combination that dont really work. that straight neck really stood out to me.

>>5150880
I'll take £70 squids. Thanks son.

>>5150882
>$200 dollarydoos
You can be my other son.

>>5150895
Well, you're not wrong.

>>5150765
>>5150820
>This gets mentioned every thread, but the people here never learn.
That's because it looks like a book about contracts and prices specific for graphic designers from USA. I don't think it will be worth buying if I'm drawing furry porn from Europe.

>>5150631
>>5150738
>>5150771
I am third worlder i can eat a month with that

>>5150765
/ic/ is not meant for real-world, professional advice like this, but rather tips on finding lowly private commissions from social media or building up a Patreon.

I have this book sitting next to me right now actually - it's one of the best things I've ever bought. Though I wouldn't bother trying to give real, actual career advice. I stopped trying to help people here in yhat regard years ago because it's just pointless. The only viable opportunities to /ic/ are porn patreons, concept art, sci fi or fantasy illos, furry art or "OC" commissions. Everything else is unviable, doesn't exist, or is branded as "graphic design". Case in point >>5150952

>>5150814
$80 at least, and that's cheap af, maybe $120 as a good stable price
People in this board have no idea how much people will pay for a commission and then they throw stupid lowballs like the ones on this thread, value yourselves

Acrylic on canvas 16 x 24”

>>5150880
eh i keep the value just a shade because i could end polishing a turd

>>5150839
Thanks bröther, that's quite a confidence boost.

How much should you charge for sketches

>>5150814
>teehee my skill is so lowly, I just have no idea!! uwu
>on a board where everyone sucks your dick daily

Fuck off

>>5151321
I started charging 60$ and it works

>>5150952
>it looks like a book about contracts and prices specific for graphic designers from USA
> it looks like
>a book
>looks like
Gee, if only there were some well known phrase pertaining to the content of books that applied to situations like these.

Dog comissions.. how much would this be worth? A4, colored pencils.

>>5151349
50$
>>5151375
300$+

I stopped doing commissions. Now, I just want to selfishly draw my own weird brain worms. Do you think anyone would pay for prints or books of bizarre drawings? Or maybe a digital adult coloring book of ink drawings? How much for a set of 30 drawings like pic rel?

I do not think i have a critical mass of followers interested in my content.

How much should I charge for basic coloured sketches? Most people do sketches, line art and fully finished pieces but my line art is not worth it imo so I’d do these instead

>>5151399
cool drawings

>>5151399
Prints are very different from commissions.
The price depends largely on how many you expect to sell. If you think you'll sell a lot, you can charge just slightly over the cost of the printing/distribution. If you only expect to sell a few, then you'll want at least a 50% profit.
If you're assembling and mailing it out yourself, make sure you factor in the time it takes to do each order.

>>5151322
Agreed. It's really getting out of hand

I was thinking about offering 1 or 2 of these kind of monochrome/sketchy commissions but I've never sold my work in any professional capacity except to trade for non-money things like a website invite or gaia gold a few years ago. My coloring is trash and clean line-art is a rarity because of my goldfish attention-span. I also do nsfw but pretty vanilla range stuff.

>>5150103
Left leg is low poly lol. Follow the shape with your strokes anon

>>5151399
your art would probably fit in at hot topic.
>>5151405
I think that if you used a textured brush to mimic a crayon or something with more noise, it would match the sketch lines better and you could sell it for more.

>>5150103
Looks like a benis and balls. Somone had to say that.

>>5150085
>>5150085
i love you furart

>>5150085
35$
>>5150103
150$
>>5150212
10$
>>5150359
45$
>>5150422
Not really a trad mate, but good anatomy. 50$
>>5150523
10$
>>5150609
You need to improve.
>>5150796
200$+ Very good quality. Painting fairies would bump it up at least double.
>>5150814
Skin pigment and contours are distasteful. Wouldnt pay.
>>5151257
90$
>>5151321
20$
>>5151349
35$
>>5151375
250$
>>5151399
5-10$ if you do standardized prints. For a whole book of them you could bump it up to 35-45$.
>>5151405
30$ if commissioned
>>5151479
I would work on colouring if I were you, because you know perspective and anatomy. Make a finished product, post on sm and you'll get commissions. If it was coloured it'd be worth at least 65$.

>>5151349
90$
>>5151479
70$
I feel both of you didn't got a fair appraisal.

What's this worth?

>>5151751
40-60, render the armpit more and you’re looking over 100.

I want to point out that you people are getting monetary advice from a mass replying fucktard that doesn't even know how to format an amount of money in text.

Give it to me straight

>>5151798
These threads are always like
>portfolio tier concept art
>I'd give you a solid 100 dollaronis for this
>really?!!?! I have 5 followers
>/beg/ posts diaper furries fucking a helicopter
>Eugh! 250$ at best!
>I sold it for 12 thousand dollars

>>5151826
You are the fucktard in question.

>>5151834
Sorry I never see any money

Bump

>>5151677
>200$+ Very good quality. Painting fairies would bump it up at least double.
ROFL

The absolute state of /ic/ crabs.

>>5151677
this post is proof that >>5150097 is true.

>>5151822
doge

Are most ic user literally living in the streets of Calcutta or some latin american shanty town?

>>5152009
You forget to mention the commie blocks in the slavic countries, but yes

>>5152009
Most artists you can commission on the internet live in south america or the poor part of Asia. the rates on commissions are too low to make a living in first world countries. most of them charge around 40$ and get maybe a dozen a month, if that was the only thing they did and they lived in the first world, they'd starve even before taxes kicked in.

That's why everyone has some sort of webcomic or project to justify a Patreon these days

>>5151257
confusing forms in the neck and upper chest areas. fix it and it's an easy 150$+.

>>5151822
really fucking good actually. If it was full body or atleast properly framed portrait it would EASILY be 300$+.

>>5151375
$80 easily, but you could get as much as $150, depends on how many points you have in Luck

According to this thread, I should ditch drawing booba girls in PS and start drawing dogs with colored pencils

>>5152420
I mean... yeah. If you want to make money. It’s not an industry secret that drawings of dogs sell

>>5151871
I don't doubt that.

>>5152420

There is more skill in the latter.

>>5152009
No, just the retards that participate in these garbage fire threads.
We have even had someone in these
threads admit to literally not even being an artist and just wanting to drive down the cost of commission.
These threads are the epitome of crabbing.

>>5152420
>I should ditch drawing booba girls in PS and start drawing dogs with colored pencils
you FOOL, you should COMBINE them
O W O

be honest

>>5152556
>be honest
You're in the wrong thread for that.

>>5152556

I don't think your skill is really at a level yet to sell work seriously, sorry anon. Get better. I would pay $20 tops.

>>5152555

Go back to your containment thread

>>5151593
>>5151419
Thanks - kek i didn’t even think hot topic was still in business. I havent been to a mall in like a decade

>>5151424
>>5151677
Is red bubble any good? Is there a cross comparison between all the different custom print houses? I guess i would do like merch or something, but I’d probably need to do digital instead. I dont want to be sitting on a stock pile of prints / books desperately waiting to sell them.

>>5151822
very crisp.

ugly dog tho

>>5152553
Wow I never thought of that. What a waste of time.

>>5151822
I think if you worked on presentation...

Skill-wise if you did a full image to this detail you could sell it in the range of $250-$400 but there's real diminished returns on working this intensely on single pieces.

Like doing a fully illustrated piece with a background would probably only sell for $50-$100 ($500) more than if it was just the dog on a flat background, and the increased price might make it sit around a lot longer than a few quicker pieces at lower prices.

Unfortunately that's the reality of business on the internet, it's a lot of small sales on less detailed work, things that pop out as thumbnails, very few people are going to be willing to shell out big bucks over a computer screen.

You have the skills to make it work though, if you wanted to do those bigger pieces and ask for more, I just question whether you'd find a buyer.

>>5152656
That's cool I'm not selling art yet anyway. What would you say was wrong with this out of curiosity

>>5150195
You can make a baseline price given art quality from a consumer's perspective. You can make a baseline price from a time spent standpoint from an artist's perspective. Notoriety or name branding is a luxury tax that you can add once you have either a brand or notoriety. Everybody's gotta start somewhere.

>>5151822
With this quality, you should be able to squeeze 80$ out of it easy

>>5150519
Get a scanner and learn how to touch up digitally. Learn digital painting eventually. Easy fix.

I have purchased quite a lot of art. I’m mostly here for the artbook share threads but here’s an opinion from a frequent art buyer.

>>5150085
If you do nsfw you could easily get 80$ for something like this. If you had any kind of following you could get 150-200$. Easy. I wouldn’t buy it cuz I’m not a furry, but my friends would.
>>5150212
I’ve paid Thai teenagers 4$ American for stuff like this.
>>5150359
My boss would easily pay a couple grand if this is trad. If digital I’d say like 100$
>>5150414
>>5150422
I have paid Korean teenagers 15$ American for things if this quality.
>>5150609
This is a wikihow image. I would pay 25-50 cents American which is the going rate for wikihow images.
>>5150735
Depends entirely on your Twitter popularity desu. The art itself is bad in the way only somebody who is better at drawing realism drawing porn for money is bad. 35$
>>5150796
20$
>>5150814
You’re pretty bad but you’re bad in the way nips who don’t know what they’re doing are. 100$ easily. Keep studying you’ll be Twitter famous in 4-6 years.
>>5151321
Depends on your following. You draw like a 20 something girl who dropped out of art school because they wouldn’t let her draw anime though. So.. 30$
>>5151349
You could charge 25-40$ an hour. This is easily the most marketable thing in this thread.
>>5151399
Don’t take commissions, you’d be wasting time you could be spending growing your brand. draw more original shit and open up a mercy shop. You are by far the most talented person in this thread.
>>5151405
40$
>>5151479
100-150$ base, it’s nothing special but you are leagues above most Twitter artists
>>5151751
30$. If you get better at making the colors not boring as fuck 60$
>>5152556
I have a friend who posts his work exclusively to Facebook and has about 100 followers which are mostly just friends of his like me who want to support him and see him get better. I’d buy you a beer, that’s about it.

I update my commission sheet every 30 days to do testing. So let me know what to change next. Do i need to up/down the degenerate/fetish taxes, do i need add more details? Do i need to add more fees etc.

>>5151822
$350. If you do thid in 3 -4 hours. If you spend more than 6 hours. $400.

>>5153822
Are you that Davisfag?

>>5153822
Kill yourself, you dumb third worlder. You don't even know the difference between buying art and commisioning art.

Just wondering.
I'm too busy with grinding fundies to do commissions right now.

This was my first formal comm
Charged 200 dlls for this and one more like this (7 draws total) plus editing process to adjust them for banners for social media.
The girl in most of these pics is my client.
Took me quite a time everything since im working as a medic and doing night shift quite often, but in the end she like it everything

>>5153957
$45 or higher

>>5153929
Lol, you're so butthurt

>>5153957
Already made it, tighten up your anatomy and rendering skills and expect $2000 a month drawing coom every week

>>5151139
I want to live where you live if I my entire savings of 40K are enough to support me for my entire live

>>5151139
You either have great money management for food/ get to eat free from other resources
Or
Eat like shit

>>5153960
This is proof that art quality doesn't make the price.
For instance I wouldn't pay shit for this kind of crappy amateurish shit.

>>5154009
Well, 3rd world countries don't really sport high cousine for their middle/lower class lol.
Some countries have minimal wages that are around 10-20 bucks.

>>5153978
Cuba/Dominican Republic are heavens on earth for that kind of shit. It's hard to get a visa tho.

>>5153974
About what, retard?

>>5154054
>For instance I wouldn't pay shit for this kind of crappy amateurish shit.
I guess when you're a twitchthot drowning in simp money it's easier to splurge

>>5153978
No you fucking don't. Third worlders come here and cope with their shitty situation by pretending they just get cheaper things, but they have cheap things because everything they have is literal garbage. If you want to live like a 3rd worlder in America, then you can just eat nothing but rice and live in a shack with no heating or air. Same experience, only the air and water don't kill you.

>>5153899
Uh, anon do you trace? The line work looks like you dont understand the form you're drawing at all

>>5154081
He does, and then he comes here and makes threads bragging about it, inexplicably.

>>5154084
based

>>5153822
>you’re pretty bad but you’re bad in the way nips who don’t know what they’re doing are. 100$ easily. Keep studying you’ll be Twitter famous in 4-6 years.

I feel like I just got slapped across the face and then kissed on the forehead.

>>5153822
Why do you buy art from teenagers so often? You an ephebo groomer or smth?

>>5152556
Don't listen to crabs, you're already better than 50% artists who take comms. Go to >>>/aco/4886846 and see for yourself.

>>5154472
Such an obvious troll and larper it's not even funny. Def one of the most obnoxious local crabs. Kys.

>>5153822
Such an obvious troll and larper it's not even funny. Def of the most obnoxious local crabs. Kys.

>>5154480
jesus christ everything under the 100$ mark, why they even bother with commission

>>5154076
Nice cope, M*rican. No school shootings or nigga riots today?

Reminder that you don't need a few Ks followers, you just need the right people that will happily spend money for your art because you're the only one doing a certain type of art style/genre

>>5150422
Buy a cheap used Surface or similar Windows tablet with pressure sensitive pen which can also run SAI or the like and get into digital. Getting used might take a month or two, but it's worth it. Then take coommissions. Don't ever take pricing advice from /ic/ crabs most of whom are your competitors, go to the commission thread on /aco/, commission discords, etc, and set price slightly lower than people with similar skill at first. But only slightly. Raise your prices after you do more comms and gather a large portfolio. Starting some social media and promoting yourself there is also a good idea.

>>5154499
Not everyone is ready to get into furryscat or shotaguro, hun

>>5150170
>He doesn't think the Loomis demon is real.

I only do shit for free atm because it's good practice and I'm still a beginner but do you think I could get like 12€ for something like this? Of course I would polish it more.

>>5154497
>no u

>>5154816
I'd put it at 30. Ask for 30 and keep on practicing/posting your works, when you have a following then you'll easily get 30 even with your art style. All that matters is you have a following.

>>5154816
0

>>5154925
pyw, crab

>>5154926
https://securesha.re?#u=dca61a99cab431b8244b107b57574af1.bin&p=29cUQRshJ42svTPkNn_sXDQ4fY6VLAvXjUPmmHG8ahY

>>5154937
Can someone post what is was? I want to see the retard's drawing

>>5154942

>>5154946
someone erase my eyes

>>5154946
$500 easily
my turn

>>5154946
What's interesting about this is the background isn't' even that bad.

>>5155000
Wow, two same numbers along with three same numbers!

>>5154946
She looks so... deflated

>>5154951
>>5154942
>>5155014
>>5155026
Guise, I think we've all just fell victims of a master ruseman

>>5155000
$35-45
Looks like simple line art+flat colors
If it were more “finished” double that easily but right now it looks kind of boring and generic

Heya! I know my content doesn’t have a huge market but yeah how much could I ask?

>>5144497
Be honest.
But if I don't get the biggest number I'll be sad

how much do you think I can get for these pencil portraits? They take about 6 minutes

>>5155510
spend more time then

>>5153929
I’m American... Lmao. Also, I didn’t think the word I used mattered that much desu. I apologize for my “commissioning” fauxpas
>>5154472
Sometimes I spend way too much on Gacha games so I go light on my art spending for the month.

any good pages to recibe money?

>>5155562
>I'm an American, I promise! I just swam over last week!

Could I get anything for this?

>>5156006
You can get slapped by your father

did this tonight. not sure what somebody might pay for creature art like this lol

>>5150814
Tips on how to draw as gestural as you? Has so much style and confidence

So much coom

>>5154076
It only sucks if you're actually a citizen. If you live in a third world country but have first world savings (or better yet, first world income) it's pretty based, so long as you can afford to travel back if you need to (like for medical shit) and so long as you actually like the country/people/culture.
>t. lived in a developing island nation for about a year and lived like a relative king for about a quarter of my normal expenses
There's a reason expats flock to these kinda places at retirement, and it's not just for ladyboys.

>>5151322
They said they liked their linework, which is nice but the coloring is indeed weak and bare bones, at least on that image.

>>5155510

Nothing, everything you make is shit

>>5156006
>>5156017
really nice. shit I dunno, $50-60?

>>5156054
I could also get cheaper rent if I wanted to live in the ghetto.
Crime rates, mortality rates, government corruption, lack of human rights, etc.
You get what you pay for.

>>5156017
Get hired by a gayem studio, do monster concept art... and draw monsterrape coommissions on the side

>>5150085
looks unfinished. 30$

>>5150103
who would pay for that?

>>5157067
Why do you keep samefagging with different amounts?

>>5150265
okay thanks, this time i tried to erase as much of the sketch and used a different style
>>5156017
$70-80
>>5156181
$7-10

>>5151677
>You need to improve.
but how

>>5157471
>$7-10
dang. Guess I better grind more then

>>5150201
$2-3

>>5151751
Wouldn't

>>5156181
not even for free

>>5157876
yeah I got a ways to go

>>5150085
I have no ref point for work like yours or mine. That's why I'm here

>>5154480
thank you anon i'm trying very hard to improve

>>5154946
Keep grinding anon I admire your ambition with such a challenging pose

>>5157706
you've got good colors, it doesn't look flat actually, and you show int-level skill in some aspects of your work
the only thing that's holding you back is appeal. find a better anatomy and proportions that look prettier/cuter, because the cartoonish face and the realistic way the head connects to the neck and the wide shoulders are jarring

Nothing finished yet but I want to know before I fully commit
Is there a market for figurines / sculptures?
Would I always have to recast the brittle polymer clay figurine into resin?
Would people be interested in unpainted figurines, or figurines in flat colors?
What about unassembled figurines?
Would it be a good idea to make single figurines for a single client at a higher price, or to make manny of the same and sell those?
What is the coomer / furry potential?
What shipping and payment options do I have (if even available) if I want to maintain some anonymity?

>>5159240
IM
COOMING

Be honest, im thinking 20

>>5159318
>Is there a market for figurines / sculptures?
I'd say there's definitely a market, depending on what you'd be offering! I know of a couple of artists that do custom sculptures/dolls of ocs/sonas/pets/etc (Rivalmit/Creature-Cave/PantheraSculptures), and I've also seen artists offer premade resin casts (MissMonster)

>Would I always have to recast the brittle polymer clay figurine into resin?
Couldn't say for sure, but I don't think so? Clay seems to be able to hold up well so long as it's reinforced properly, iirc some of the custom sculptures I've seen have mainly used sculpey/etc (sometimes epoxy/resin too)

>Would people be interested in unpainted figurines, or figurines in flat colors? What about unassembled figurines?
I've seen the resin ones offered in blanks or pre-painted and un-assembled figures are a thing in miniature painting for sure

>Would it be a good idea to make single figurines for a single client at a higher price, or to make many of the same and sell those?
Probably depends on what you'd prefer to do; individually sculpt a client's character/sona/pet/etc to their specifications each time or design your own thing once and just recast it? As you said, the former can be offered at a higher price but the latter has the convenience of making it once and then casting batches of it for sale

>What is the coomer / furry potential?
Dunno about coom but there's definitely a furry market! Rivalmit has a good few examples of dragon sonas in their gallery and Creature-Cave has done custom dolls of sonas too
There's also a market for fanart sculpts, someone on dA used to be on the front page a lot with MLP sculptures that seemed to sell quickly (looked up "MLP sculptures" and the one I'm referring too is VIIstar, but there are several other makers too from the looks of it)

>>5159773
20 is really shooting too low, you can easily do $50+

>>5151677
what's a sm? not joking really, I'm new here

>>5155422
Not under $100. Love the creativity.

>>5158901
thanks a bunch anon. I'll definitely work that that!

>>5159773
im thinking 3rd worlder

>>5159904
I'll keep moving towards that direction. I just hope there is a good non-anthro market. I know that anyone anting to live-off this will have to, at some point, satisfy the yiff, but as a not-furry myself I would only make those for the money

>>5150085
$35; looks pleasing to the eye but to use this as a sample would be a wrong move; try one with clothes or maybe if it's gotta be naked put it in a more interesting pose and better lighting.

>>5150103
>>5150359
>>5151257
$150-250; these styles have a very small demographic imo, usually in the form of portraits for xmas presents or people who would want a traditional physical painting

>>5150414
>>5150422
$15-20; good skill but unfinished sketches go for far lower value

>>5150735
$35; coloring and lineart are great. custom characters would bring up value in skill.

>>5150796
$15-20; cute but the art seems stiff. a more dynamic pose and even a simple background would do wonders for the value of your art

>>5151349
$300-350+ easily; i would pay you to create character concept art for a game. like the other anon said, you have enough skill to charge by the hour, as well.

>>5151405
$40-65; your style looks very cute, fun, and finished. more complicated character commissions should be charged more relative to your effort.

>>5151479
$60-100; depending on your detail in the piece.

>>5152556
>>5157471
$15-25.

>>5157919
$10-15 per print?; i am sure i wouldn't commission you for a character because i would much rather enjoy your style more as a physical print because of the linework in it.

>>5160052
Thanks m8,

>>5150085
200 to 300 would be the standard.

>>5155485
probably around 600$+

>this dumb crab thread is still alive
>retards are still posting their art to get "priced" by crabs

>>5160397
There's definitely a non-anthro market! A lot of people are into dragons/non-anthro characters. Most of my commissions are for furries but it's usually dragons and sfw, so it's possible to make a business of it without being a furry yourself and without having to do yiff

>>5150085
Petra is that you?

Yeah, I'm thinking $500 per magnet-attached horse dick

>>5162669
$100. Biggest issue I see is values, work on that. Also anatomy

>>5162669
fuuuck i want a cute school boy to kill me now

>>5163272
basado

>>5163827
old human tranny face/10

>>5164406
Are you the same anon sperging about trannies under every thread?

>>5164410
Are you the same anon sperging about the word "tranny" in every thread?

>>5164410
not him but I also think she looks like a man in drag, the jaw and chin are way too strong

>>5164410
by same you mean a large majority of sane individuals?

>>5164410
i wish i had a tranny gf

Can I get away with high prices if I have more followers? Have 20k and thinking of selling simple chibi commissions for like $30-40

>>5165326
No matter what, people don't like price hikes. But with that many followers who gives if some of them leave.

>>5159240
$120 - $150

>>5165255
Imo you could sell art like that for a ton. I'd estimate $50 per character with an additional fee for background.

Picrel was a commission I charged $90 for, but the guy insisted on giving me an extra tip of $50 (both in USD.) For five hours of drawing time it's an insanely good hourly rate, but I hate my drawing with every last fiber of my being. Should I not charge as much til I'm happier with my art, or just charge what people will pay?

>>5166222
I feel you had a very generous client, no offence.

A potential client is asking for a painting similar to something I've made previously. I've yet to do commissions, so I have no clue what I could charge for something like this.

A potential client is asking me for a painting similar to something I made previously. I have no experience doing commissions, so I've got no clue how much I could charge for something like this

>>5167764

Jesus christ, I'd say...

>>5150085
10 dollars, easy. Nightmare fuel for kids and aspiring digital whack jobs.
>>5150103
17 dollars, barely enough to cover the frame and the nails I'll use to put this crap up over, you guessed it, my toilet.
>>5150212
$7.50, and that's being generous. Nice Pirahna teeth.
>>5150422
Yeah, don't waste your time. Stop riding coat tails.
>>5150609
...for them to burn it?
>>5150814
Nothing like pouring out milk curds to mask the smell of this crap. 5 bucks, take it or leave it.
>>5151257
I'll pay you what you paid for the canvas, and I'll give you an extra 60 bucks on top of that. Noice. :)
>>5151321
One dollar. Spot tracing your garbage.
>>5151349
You got lazy on the background and what the hell is it standing on? 7 bucks.
>>5151399
>I stopped doing commissions.
Thank you.
>>5151479
You got lazy on the feathers. 5 bucks.
>>5151751
Paying me to unclick that. You owe me 30 dollars.
>>5151822
Nice dubs. Pretty good, I'd pay 60 to 90 bucks for your time.
>>5152556
15 bucks, and only because you used watercolors.
>>5153899
2, 4, 6, respectively. Anyone paying your prices deserves to have buyer's remorse the day after.
>>5153957
Keep grinding, I'll only pay you 10 bucks for this.
>>5153960
Your mom doesn't count as your first formal commission and you still owe her for the rent that month.
>>5155510
Stop trying to copy Frank Cho...you know what, keep at it. That inflated ego will shit down your neck if he ever catches wind of you trying to "mimic" his style.
>>5156006
Nope.
>>5156017
Don't rip off Maridia from Super Metroid, and maybe you can get 10 bucks. Maybe.
>>5157471
Went down in value. 4 bucks.

No but seriously, aside from you traditional painters, you'd have to pay me to take any of your art off your hands. hahaha

>>5165326
I'd not jack up prices just for the sake of it, but if you have a large pool of followers and your work is in demand then I assume it's something they'd be willing to pay $30-$40 for. If you're unsure and if simple chibis don't take you long (eg, $30-40 is worth min wage or more for the time they take you) then you could try opening a few slots for $30 and if there's high demand, you can increase the price for the next batch.


>>5168868
How long did the one you made previously take you? If you can make an estimate then you can use min.wage per hour as a starting point - emphasis on "starting point", higher quality = higher price!


Art is a luxury so make sure the effort is at least worth both your times

>>5168927
>>5155485

>skipped

>>5169890
Why would you want a reply from such a dumb crab?

>>5169984
you can reply as well senpai

>>5162669
god i hate this disgusting style
it straight up repulses me