/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5137027
based OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0uPoa-9czg

I ended up buying a Kamvas Pro 16. I like it. For 320 it feels pretty tight. I just posted this, so I don't know if it's still processing, but a couple people asked for a line test, someone else told me to go fuck myself.

I drew that while it uploaded.

A few things that I don't like --

The laminated screen has very very little parallax, but it was sort of tedious getting it set up for my viewing angle. It's fine now, but if you've used a premium tablet or like. . . an ipad you might be unnerved. Like it almost feels as if your cursor is very slightly to the right of your pen nib, but you can calibrate until this is a non issue.

I noticed that in photoshop when drawing a fast gestural line -- like a circle, it would sort of polygon it out. It was only when I was really drawing fast though. And I also noticed this wasn't an issue on my desktop, only the laptop. Not sure what the issue is here. Maybe something to do with my laptops GPU?

The stand is kind of shitty. The tablet can pretty easily fall off if you bump your desk too hard.

The edges of the screen -- like within a quarter inch or so -- get funky with pen placement. This really isn't an issue because I dont often draw on the edge of my screen.

Colors are fine I guess. I don't really understand any of that shit.

>>5137067
Based

>>5137067
I'd also like to add that I'm a certified NGMI that has owned a Cintiq Pro 24, and and an iPad pro and several varieties of intuos. For 320, if you're on the fence and want a display tablet, just get this and then return it if you hate, or return it anyway to fuck with huion.

>>5137067
Well I mean, yeah. For actual drawing.. you know, the point of it all, itll work fine. Retards nitpick about stupid bullshit that only reviewers care about because its a "thing" they can use to compare products.

Also, to clear up the confused retards from the last thread, this is the parallax on the 24 pro. I consider it to be low, but it caused a bit of controversy for some reason. Maybe because they were trying to shit on the xp pen artist 15.6 for parallax despite having the same amount as the 24 pro.

>>5137098
>xp pen artist 15.6 for parallax despite having the same amount as the 24 pro.
Again. BS.
Maybe in the middle of the screen the parallax is almost the same, but as soon as you move your curstor more to the borders the XP Pen's parallax starts to increase drastically. Thing that doesn't happen on the Cintiq Pro.
These photos prove nothing, since it looks like you took yours (Cintiq) from the side instead from your viewpoint lol.

>>5137098
I suppose I should have elaborated a little more. I'm not identifying parallax as an issue. Personally, I liked how my old Gaomon felt without the laminated screen. My reason for mentioning that, was it the cursor replacement felt a little strange. I'm not sure if it was my grip or the angle that which I was drawing, but it almost all cases until I calibrated it just right, the cursor felt slightly to the right of where I was marking. Personally, I chalked it up to four build quality.

>>5137105
Thing that doesn't happen on the Cintiq Pro.

Yes it does.

>it looks like you took yours (Cintiq) from the side instead from your viewpoint lol

What, like literally what the xp pen user did? lmao, sure kid. Look at the picture again.

>>5137122
>What, like literally what the xp pen user did?
LMAO, yeah, okay, you are a retard.

>>5137108
My cursor ends up being a teeny bit to the right side when I calibrate it on my pro 24. Ive found that holding the pen in my left hand while calibrating, then using my right hand again to draw solves this issue. My guess is that wacom sets the cursor to be just eversoslightly right of the nib so that when looking at it from the most common pen position, it places the cursor directly behind the nib so it feels like theres no disconnect.

>>5137134
That was easy. Then again, I did corner you.

>>5137078
Why have you used so many though? Did the cintiq break down on you? Ive been happy with mine

>>5137122
Taking a pic from anywhere that is not the user's POV is completely pointless.

Parallax is the distance between the cursor and tip of the stylus seen from the user's perspective. In better tablets (iPad, Cintiq Pro) the distance is very small and it doesn't change perceptibly when you move your cursor ANYWHERE on the screen surface.
With cheaper tablets the parallax is more visible and it increases DRASTICLY whenever the cursor is not in the middle of the screen.

Can you please stop talking about shit you don't understand?

>>5137139
>I did corner you.
You didn't corner anyone. You are just saying dumb shit and taking pointless photos.

>>5137142
>Taking a pic from anywhere that is not the user's POV is completely pointless.

Like pic related then? Cope. Youre getting confused. Parallax is primarily caused by the distance between the digitizer and the pen tip. The parallax in pic related isnt that bad at all, in fact its the same as on the 24 pro, as I have demonstrated.

>It-its a drastic increase!

Moving goalposts, easy.

>>5137145
Cope :)

what a weird general

>>5137136
I'll give that a try. Thanks.

>>5137139
Because Ill never be happy. I had a quarter life crisis and tried to learn how to play piano for a week last week. The cintiq was great, but it was so nice and I felt like it was taunting me. It knew my weakness and its warm glow would remind me I didn't deserve such a thing. And honestly it was too big. The if they still made 16 cintiq pro I'd have settled for that.

>>5137159
>Like pic related then? Cope. Youre getting confused. Parallax is primarily caused by the distance between the digitizer and the pen tip. The parallax in pic related isnt that bad at all, in fact its the same as on the 24 pro, as I have demonstrated.
I'm not saying pic related is less dumb than your photos. They are the same level of dumb.
I'm just saying that your claim both tablets have the same level of parallax is BS.

The Cintiq Pro is miles ahead. Tested it myself. Also, I don't need glasses like you obviously do.

>>5137170
>>5137139
She knows my fears, and she knows me. The Cintiq knows how this will end. She was returned.

Why haven't they made a tablet without the gigantic black 2 inch borders yet

>>5137191
Dyou mean wacom or tablets in general? Only the cintiqs have those borders. I also have no idea why they need to be so god damned bulky with fans. Just more moving parts to break in the long run.

>>5137191
The borders are there to house the tech inside, also, it provides a good space for resting your arm whether you're right or left handed and not damaging the screen in the long run. One day they will eventually take them out tho.

>>5137207
They're on the XPPEN as well.
>>5137208
I hate shit eating away my precious space as I snake around to use keyboard and mouse controls.

>>5137174
>The Cintiq Pro is miles ahead
Not really. Its ahead in screen quality, res and pen responsiveness but its parallax isnt groundbreaking. Its worse than the kamvas 22 plus.

>>5137134
Are Chinese retards now seriously trying to argue that their chinese crap minimizes parallax just as much as Cintiq Pros?

Goddamn they are dumb.

>>5137212
>Its worse than the kamvas 22 plus.
You are a complete idiot lol

You cannot get "worse parallax" than anything with a bonded screen.

>>5137253
Why dyou bring up nationality in a discussion about tablet quality, Zhang?

>>5137257
>Calling someone Zhang
>Saying 'Why dyou'

Go draw something instead of shit posting

>>5137253
Op we can always tell its you by your limited vocabulary, your attemps to samefag are hilarious

>>5137067
>For 320 it feels pretty tight
$320? Did you get it used?

>>5137348
nah. it's on sale or something. im in the USA

>>5137186
have you tried the ipad/tab s6 route? are you looking to get into 3d or sticking to 2d?

Does anyone know of a good Ergotron arm for an Artist Pro 24? Someone gifted me a tablet last year, but I haven't seen anything online about mounting one of these tablets to an arm. I saw one post complaining about arms over-weighted dipping forward and all the Youtube videos just us the Cintiq Pro 24 and its overly expensive Wacom Flex(?) arms. I heard about the Ergotron LX, but all I could find for a decent price was the Ergotron HX series. Anyone in these threads have any experience with drawing tablets being mounted to arms? Also, I believe the Xp-Pen Pro 24 is about 16 pounds, if that matters.

>>5137862
Ergotron lx holds it at max extension no problem. Its not even at its highest tension setting.

>>5137880
Awesome. Thank you.

at what angle should I use the tablet?

>>5137880
do you come from a painting background? how long do you actively draw on the tablet?

>>5138026
Ive only had it for a month by now, I use it just about everyday for a few hours. You get a tiny bit of wobble but thats just the reality of something this heavy on an arm. I have a light touch as well. I had to set the wacoms default pen pressure sensitivity way lower

>>5137027
>Budget
$300

>Location
USA

>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
I don't know... I mainly want to sketch reference images with it, then do 3d modeling in blender. Maybe I'd also do some 2d art for sprites (different kinds of games)

>Size (in inches)
Don't know

>Other information
I do gamedev and 3d modeling, but I really need to be able to draw things out without having to scan it every damn time

>Previous equipment
I have an ipad air 2 if that helps, but I've never drawn on it or any other tablet. Is there a special pen I can use with it to draw?

Sorry, but I'm an absolute beginner in all of this

>>5138039
where did you get your ergotron lx from? is that an ergotron lx hd? or is it just the ergotron lx?

>>5138084
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00358RIRC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Got this one

>>5138084
Youll need to splurge on a VESA adapter because wacom really, really dont want you using 3rd party workarounds. I got the wacom adapter because im a pussy

>>5138076
You can get a Huion Kamvas 13 with stand for $265 on the Huion official store if you're using PayPal, otherwise Amazon if that's not a requirement. That leaves the rest of your budget towards shipping.

>>5138106
Thanks
There's a few different kinds listed on Amazon. This one is $220 on Amazon, has a stand. Would that be good?
https://www.amazon.com/HUION-Kamvas-Battery-Free-Sensitivity-Stand-13-3inch/dp/B083W88L5H/

>>5138128
Yes, that's the one.

>>5138135
Doesn't the OP say to avoid this brand tho

>>5138151
The OP isnt authoritative by nature of being the OP, despite how much he wants that to be the case. Its a non artist from /g/. Theres an entire gallery of pics of him getting destroyed but he reports them super quick, like he will this post lmao

>>5138151
From what I've witnessed, OP seems to have a hateboner for anything chink made. I had a screenless tablet from them before and it worked well for several years till the cord died and I decided it was a good opportunity to upgrade. Cord prolly woulda lasted long if I'd not been so mobile with it, I often took the tablet along with my laptop when I'd go over to friends places and such and doddle while hanging out.

>>5138151
>>5138161
The OP is a schizo. Pay him no mind.

>>5138128
Also, make sure you plug it into a blue (or even better, teal blue) USB port in your PC for best performance. My Kamvas Pro 16 is plugged into one of the USB 3.2 Gen1 ports on the back.

>>5137773
I have a 12.9 iPad pro that i've relegated to a second screen. Something about the screen and the pencil felt mickey mouse. I'm aware it's more than competent, I just didn't care for it. I've always drawn on MS Paint and Photoshop. 2D Characters only. I've done some low poly stuff, but it's an absolute after thought.

>>5137212
Never tried the kamvas, but I have my doubts.
I did try the XP Pen tho, and it was nothing like the Cintiq Pro. The XP Pen's parallax is much worse.

>>5138151
yeah, be careful. CCP is all over 4chan, especially /g and /ic pushing their products.
Take a look at moe, larry, and curly who immediately replied after your post.

if you do buy it, get it from Amazon. They have a good return policy, and you will probably need it. Historically, people have complained about returning a tablet two or three times.

I'm so mad that my Huion Kamvas pro 21.5" has an impossible pen calibration problem I can't fix.

>>5138714
how do you even fix something like that
I pressed the calibrate button and some spots on the monitor showed up but how could that possibly change anything if the cursor still appears in an off position

>>5138714
Sorry to hear that. Sounds frustrating. Post a video on the Huion reddit sub, someone might be able to help you out.

I recently bought a Huion Kamvas 22 and have no qualms except the pen lacking weight (especially coming from an Apple Pencil)
Any ideas on how to add weight to the pen without it being too lopsided?
I also want to, at one point, DIY some sort of clasp on the side to store the pen but that's for later

>>5138076
Get a Galaxy Tab S6 Lite. Best value for money and works with Windows.

Stop listening to chinese shills like >>5138106

>>5138800
Damage control today, Ching Chong?

I demand to see THE chink shill webm

How much should I pay for a
>Cintiq 22HD
Am I looking for the modelnumber DTK-2200 here? Is there a better model number? I used one of these big older cintiqs for a few months straight and it was the best time of my life I think.

>>5125721
>Monitor help what pick Im an artist not a monitor specialist and they are all a fucking ripoff dont tell me to buy a 1000$ monitor and that anything below is unuseable help help
let me help you out here, if you dont ask or I dont check back you wont get an explanation
>Benq EW3270U
also buy a displayport cable and use that from day one. This monitor has a great size but thats not the only reason I recommend this over anything else. It has a VA Panel with far superior blacks and color richness, a very wide and accurate color gamut/volume and the contrast is about 3x as good as the very best IPS display.
Delta e is something like 1.4 which is almost perfect and good enough for cinema
Never press the HDR button its a marketing gimmick, monitor is HDR without you touching anything because of brightness, contrast and color volume without any fucking gimmicks enabled.
Enjoy or just buy something uninformed using the marketing terms amazon pumps into you. Also its 4k
Should cost ~400 bucks

If you want to learn what makes a monitor good without looking to the manufacturer to tell you its a "art monitaur" check https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/ and read a few full reviews, google what you dont know about the benchmarking terms or just read it all

(Btw. SRGB range is outdated. maybe even within this year a massive shift will take place, everything is put into place, all we need is a starting signal or the right netflix tweet and it will fall into place. It will happen and it ll make your srgb content as outdated as a wacom bamboo)

The Cintiq 16 is bad?

>>5138294
>I have a 12.9 iPad pro that i've relegated to a second screen. Something about the screen and the pencil felt mickey mouse.

Having used Wacoms before, the iPad slick plastic pen with its hard, cheap feeling nib is awful. Absolutely no thought for ergonomics. I guess they have to hold onto their autistic design ideals even when they make no sense. Got to keep up the illusion of a "superior god-created aesthetic", just like when they insisted on only having one button on a mouse "because you don't need more" and then having incredibly lame, frustrating workarounds to emulate a right click anyway.

>>5134241
>ran off
nah I am just not here 24/7 anymore like most of you
>>5136368
>>5134687
>>5134241
its Samsung Galaxy Note 9
the key here is S Pen - 4,096 levels of pressure sensitivity and a 0.7mm tip for those yearning for the exact numbers. Thats more than enough for smooth workflow

>>5137027
>>5139010
>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
This is why you don't buy chinese tablets.

>>5139244
Chinese shill here.

This is why you dont buy wacom tablets.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wacom/

long live pappy Xi

>>5139223
Neat, you think its universal/compatble for Redmi Note?

>>5137027
>>5138151
here's your brand new tablet bro
and no, you don't """need""" more

Can someone help me find the sweet-spot value tablet?
USA, $100 or less, non-display, medium or large size, no previous tablet

>>5139687
xp-pen deco 01 v2

>>5139687
Get an Intuos 3, as recommended in the OP.

Safely discard the chinese shill here: >>5139690
XP Pens have bad pen performance, as seen here: >>5139244

>>5139687
Safely discard the /g/ schizo here:>>5139702

Screenless tablets have far better pen performance than display tablets, as seen in literally all the video reviews

>>5139035
Let me help you out here. You're a dumb fucking faggot retard and that monitor sucks ass.

>>5139067
yeah, basically fuck apple. the ipad has a nice screen for my small desk. im the fucker that posted the line test. i really, really like this kamvas a few days into using it. it just makes me want to do more traditional art though. the duality of man.

>>5139702
>Get an Intuos 3, as recommended in the OP.
>I wrote the OP
>listen to me, ONLY ME

>>5139710
>Screenless tablets have far better pen performance than display tablets, as seen in literally all the video reviews
No they don't, idiot. Same pen technology, same problems. You're just a desperate shill.

>>5139687
>>5138178

>>5139732
Nope. You're clueless. :^)

>>5139244
>Inconsistent Pressure
That's from Wacom fanboy Aaron Rutten who doesn't know how to control the pressure. I had the same issue in my Kamvas Pro 16 until my muscle memory was trained.
>Broken tilt
That's an issue exclusive to XP-Pens and only when you're doing it very slowly.
https://youtu.be/05LHgF5J10M?t=871
>Cursor strays from tip
Who even tilts their pen like that?
>Line wobble
3% smoothing in Photoshop or any other program.

>>5139890
>That's from Wacom fanboy Aaron Rutten who doesn't know how to control the pressure. I had the same issue in my Kamvas Pro 16 until my muscle memory was trained.
There have been at least 7 different people here in the past 2 months who can verify that exact same problem on XP Pen/Huion garbage.
Alas, not everyone lives in this thread the same way you do, chink. Your whole life is shilling chinese rubbish.

>>5139897
The utter irony of this post lmao. I hope as many people see this as possible

>>5139897
The lack of self-awareness displayed in this post is astonishing.

>>5139218
see >>5139495

>>5137027
Op are you serious retarded?
Wacom is a Japanese company just like Xp Pen all the world's tablets a re e made in china

>>5139890
>Aaron Rutten
the audacity of this man honestly
makes a best tablets video and its all wacom
like just call it best wacom

>19$ a month to finance a S7 Tab+

Should I do it?

>>5140921
It's not a car, for Allah's sake. Save up and don't fall for finance Jew.

>>5140921
if you're an artist already and aren't trying to learn from scratch

>>5140352
>japanese
>just like Xp Pen
You wish, Zhang. XP-Pen are chinese.

Does anybody know a good iPad pro screen protector that doesn't change the display colors?

So what are ideal res size and pen size used?
Is 2K a minimum?

>>5141141
japanese hq, chinese manufacturing. just like wacom. only difference is in patents

>>5141949
>japanese hq
You wish, Zhang.
>just like wacom. only difference is in patents
No retard, Wacom was founded by Japanese in Japan decades ago.
XP Pen was founded by Chinese in Japan much more recently.
XP Pen uses the exact same garbage pen technology as Huion. Exact same wobbly protruding nib, exact same fragility, exact same pressure inconsistency.

No matter how desperately you try to rationalize your purchase, XP Pen is a chinese company and has poor quality pen performance.

I have successfully used a strand of spaghetti to replace my pin nib.

>>5141982
>>5138178

>>5137027
I want a large display tablet.
Is the 21ux still reliable?

>>5142005
It's outdated because it still uses DVI connectors.
Get a used 22HD/27QHD, or save for a Cintiq 24 Pro.

>>5142005
Tell me your budget

Anons who use smallish screen tablet like iPad, Galaxy Tab, etc.
How the fuck do you work efficiently using shortcuts? It's such a pain in the ass to always click around for simple shit like changing brush size, swapping colors, changing tools, flipping canvas etc.
With a keyboard you have an endless amount of hotkeys and binds, with a tablet you can only have so much finger shortcuts or air gestures or whatever.
How do you guys manage to deal with this? I'm on Galaxy Tab S4 using CSP btw.

>>5140959
>>5140945
This

Anons im undecided between an intuos (idk their sizes but i want a big? one) and a future huawei tablet
My cellphone died and idk what to do

>>5142005
Get the Huion Kamvas Pro 16. It's cheap and through amazon you can just return it if it's not for you. I slowly find myself becoming more and more yellow the more I use mine. I woke up this morning and realized that Taiwan is an illegal country.

>>5142005
Discard Zhang: >>5142450
As you can see here: >>5139244 Chinese tablets are awful.

>>5142158
if you spent more time drawing than complaining you'd know

>>5142242
> intuos or huawei

uh those two aren't anywhere near the same. are you going to get a graphic tablet and then use a landline wtf?

>no Wacom at CES

What the fuck? I'm really expected to buy a mediocre Cintiq 16?

I want Zhang and Aaron Rutten to double crux:
https://www.rationality.org/resources/updates/2016/double-crux
and then kiss and make up

>>5142824
I spend plenty of time drawing, which is why I want to learn to be more efficient.
Faggot !

Bought a huion 1060 plus before I visited this board, why are people against this tablet?

>>5143342
it's one dude >>5138178

>Tab S7
>backlight bleed

>Tab S7+
>burn in
>green tint
>PWM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>5143354
the 2020 Apple® Ipad Pro™ 12.9'' just works

>>5143354
The OLED tablets crush blacks and have annoying uniformity issues as well :^)

>>5143354
wait, what, does the s7+ have burn in issues??

>>5143365
>apple
AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>5143366
what the fuck I thought that was the supposed benefit of oled
better colors, amazing blacks and uniformity

>>5143374
as much as people like to meme on apple, they actually make durable and reliable products

>>5143354
My smartphone doesn't show any burn in after 2+ years of use so I was comfortable getting an S7+ and love it so far.

Should be even less of a problem since the orientation changes all the time.

>>5143373
probably not if you use it like a normalfag constantly scroolling through different content
though I'm afraid I'd get permanent CSP menu on my screen after using it for hours without a break
>>5143380
they're good but they're also way more expensive and I have no intention of getting into the itoddler ecosystem

>>5142158
>How the fuck do you work efficiently using shortcuts? It's such a pain in the ass to always click around for simple shit like changing brush size, swapping colors, changing tools, flipping canvas etc.

It's less convenient than a keyboard on PC but generally managable. you draw with your right hand and tap to change tools with your left.

>>5140921
>finance
>finance
>finance
>finance

Get a 60$ huion FFS and earn yourself some money instead.

>>5143392
Can't take that on the go, chang.

I have a Deco Pro at home anyways.

>>5143392
Can't take that on the go, chang.

I already have a Deco Pro at home anyways.

>>5143421
Then draw better on it until you can afford to actually buy a tablet.

>>5143421
You can take anything on the go if you try hard enough, even a Cintiq 32

>>5143374
Nah. AMOLED is fucking garbage. TVs are not as bad but they do have some issues with near blacks.
Try an image search for literally any mobile device with an OLED screen + uniformity. This is the norm as well. Perfect units don't exist.

>>5141693
I promise that you won't notice that they've changed after you put on the screen. The color/brightness difference is pretty negligible, imo.

I personally got the Elecom Drawing - Rough (More Paper Feel) for my iPad Pro and it was totally worth it. Having a paper-like texture makes using an iPad Pro so, so much better.

Bros, what's the non-schizoid take on non-display Wacoms?
Are there any real improvements to pure drawing performance after the Intuos 3?
Bonus question: is there any difference between the drawing performance of an intuos 3 6x11 and chinkshit tablets like the deco 01 v2 and huion hs610/611?

>>5143386
csp is what I plan on using too

>>5143446
>look it up
>people with top of the line amoled samsungs and iphones are having uniformity problems that look just like the green tint shit
fuck

>>5143538
I think the tint is mostly because of the cameras used. The major problem is the uneven luminosity.

>>5143538
>>5143566
Nvm, some of them actually do have color uniformity issues as well (on dark greys).

>>5143486
>Bros, what's the non-schizoid take on non-display Wacoms?
Depends, what model/line are you talking about?

>Are there any real improvements to pure drawing performance after the Intuos 3?
The pressure sensitivity bump in the intuos4/5 is noticeable. But, based on industry behavior over the past +10 years, not enough to beat the intuos3 build quality/forever nibs. After the 5, pressure levels are a meme. The pressure sensitivity in the 3 isn't bad, it's just noticeable (like 16mp vs 20mp camera, 'noticeable' but not 'significant').

>Bonus question: is there any difference between the drawing performance of an intuos 3 6x11 and chinkshit tablets like the deco 01 v2 and huion hs610/611?

If you do a comparison of business points, chinkshit tablets seem to have some advantages. But other factors like driver stability and build quality aren't things you see in those comparisons, are factors for professionals in the real world. Nothing more infuriating than your tablet suddenly not working right after a software update and not knowing how long it'll take for it to work right again. The intuos3 line is unmatched by any other screenless tablet, even Wacom's modern tablets in the sheer number of size options, build quality, and firmware stability.

>>5139495
>>5139923
>>5139218
pls be still here

>>5140921
I'd rather take a burger job for a few months and pay it outright but sure, go for it

>>5143386
coincidence, i actually passed out asleep last night and accidentally left my ipad screen until the following morning. I freaked out thinking there was going to be burnout but nothing works just fine.

>>5143865
There are no oled ipads

>>5137880
is that the newest Cintiq in your pic?

>>5143859
>what model/line are you talking about?
Meant the non-shit ones. Intuos [number]/intuos pro.
>it's just noticeable (like 16mp vs 20mp camera
I actually have a 16 MP camera (an actual camera), but I can see why people might want more. For the most part it's fine for me. Not sure what to make of this.

I would have more confidence in getting a chinkshit tablet if anyone was still doing actual in-depth reviews, but it seems like all you get these days is shitty and shallow ad-tier youtube videos.

>buy Kamvas pro 20 beginning of last year
>already noticing the backlight going dark at the edges.

it will not last me another year will it.

>>5140921
Dont fiancée anything. I’m now 4K in debt to payjew credit.

>>5144646
Well, hopefully it has already paid for itself many times over.

>>5144646
that's why I won't pull the trigger on a chickshit display tablet until the component quality improves

>>5144681
I'm still shit.

Any good screenless tablets beside Intous?

>>5144687
O-oh. Well, maybe it will last another few years!

>>5144689
I have a xp-pen deco pro, It's got a nice aluminum body but the dial is only useful in PS
it's $120 and it's the most I would spend on a screenless tablet.

>>5144455
You cant really have "indepth" reviews beyond showing the tablet making lines. They are extremely simple things with very basic functionality. Thanks to the gooks you can now get medium sized tablets for fuck all money, if it werent for them youd still be getting your ass raped by wacom who would quite literally pull the price of their products right out of their anus. No market, no competition, nothing. But not anymore.
>>5144689
Literally any medium sized tablet. The tech has plateaued ever since around 2018. Theres nowhere else for them to go apart from phone compatibility, tech wise. You can achieve literally anything on the cheapest, shittest, smallest tablet so bickering about specifics is stupid. Although not as stupid as paying 350 for a non display in 2021.

>>5143859
>Build quality

This is a meme. What are you guys doing with your tablets? If you sit it on your desk and just use it, it will last for years. It has no moving parts. The only risk is if you keep plugging/unplugging it for whatever reason the socket will eventually die, but you shouldnt be doing that. I still have my cheap shitty h610 from 2016 and it works fine, save for a few scratches on the surface which were my fault.

>>5144743
>You cant really have "indepth" reviews beyond showing the tablet making lines.
The youtube faggots don't even bother with that, which is the problem. It's like 10 minute unboxing videos with a 5 second segment of "yep, I drew a line and I got a line on my screen" ending with a "yep, I got this tablet for free. Should you buy one? Yes."

This image says more than 10 of those shitty """review""" videos, but the person who did these stopped doing them, and no one took over, so if you want something new it's a gamble.

>>5144760
that's the Deco 01 V1 from 4 years ago, not the v2 which is sold now

>>5144767
Yes, and that's my point.

>>5144646
Is it still under warranty? Do some witchcraft and try to get it replaced under it.

>>5144893
I got it used sealed for like 250 bucks.

>>5144719
I mean, as long as the pen works its good enough for a shitter like me, but I'm thinking about saving 100 bucks every month to buy a wacom when this tablet becomes literally unusable.

>>5145016
unsealed*

Does anyone have a huion hs610? I was wondering if the pressure issur has been fixed. https://www.google.com/amp/s/digitalarttabletguides.wordpress.com/2019/04/05/why-i-do-not-recommend-the-huion-hs610/amp/

I'm thinking of getting the s6 lite, but im kinda on the rope considering clip studio paint has a subscription cost on it. Also are there shortcut keys that I can get to emulate ctrl + z and shit like increasing brush size with just a swipe up without having to touch the screen with my other hand?

>>5144455

why would anyone get a chinkshill tablet when a medium intuos3 is less than 100 bucks on ebay?

You know what's better than a 1 year warranty? A tablet that's been around for over 10 years and is still a mainstay in the industry.

>>5145329
Because no warranty, no support, limited supply, completely country dependent

Any other questions?

>>5144743
> my chinkshit works therefore all chinkshit has been validated

>>5145377
>schizo thinks he is being clever without even a shred of self awareness episode "whos fucking counting anymore"

Remember to wash your hands after throwing that Rutten webm in the trash

Is a new in box (used) s7 plus 256gb model worth 1k cad, no tax ( ~785 us). I'd be using it as an upgrade to my cintiq 13hd touch, as well as a mobile drawing pad. I can sell my cintiq for 450 cad easy to help offset the cost if the Samsung tablet is suitable as a replacement.

>>5145329
1024 pressure levels. And even your god Aaron Rutten says that this matters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zViM8X_w2EQ

>>5145401
Im interested but I dont want to give that eyebrowless boomer a click

>>5143342
i got a huion and the experience was really bad getting it connected to my computer with the right drivers. then my cursor kept not lining up even after calibration. the worst part was the tablet was small and got very hot. overall the experience was really bad for me but that was my first tablet. i just got a much bigger one and it's a lot better. you must also know there is a larger context to this argument, in that wacom is a japanese designed tablet while huion is a chinese designed tablet. with the recent 2020 election 4chan has seen an influx of 50 cent army shills. so you have people defending everything china and you have people attacking everything china, etc.
bottom line you get what you pay for imo.

>>5145394
have you drawn on a note before? i bought one awhile ago and gave it a good try for 2 years. I know there are people who can do work like that but the drawing experience wasn't for me. The toothpick style stylus caused cramping.

>>5145401
> Rutten

> a youtube reviewer that can barely draw

>>5145442
I've always used my cintiq 13hd to draw, but I do like the note phones. I'd probably get a pen sleeve to make it a bit more comfortable, and see if I could ditch the rubber pen tip and add a mate screen protector, is that stuff an option?

>>5145463
reread your first post, you mentioned an S7. Sorry, I thought your were talking about the phones instead of the tablets. My mistake.

Yeah, I would recommend a pen sleeve and there should be different tip options. I've never been one to use a matte screen though so I can't say. I would recommend buying a glove though if you don't already have one.

>>5145449
What's wrong? I thought he was your ally in your crusade against the CCP, are you discarding poor Mr. Rutten now that he's no longer convenient?

>>5145517
You brought him up not me, dummy.

Dunno who else you've been talking to around here, I don't use youtubers in my arguments.

>>5145497
Does the price of 1000 cad cash sound decent? Its a big price but its still cheaper than even a used iPad, and it's hard to find tablets of this or larger size.

>>5145401
Would be cool if he wasn't using toys for the test.

>>5145705
This is the guy you've been talking to. Imho 1000 is reasonable. Fyi, also look into SuperDisplay if you weren't already planning on it so you can use it mobile and with a PC if you want.

I have a Mac computer, should I just get an iPad as opposed to a galaxy tab s6?

>>5145909
Probably would be better as the ecosystem will sync better

Drawing downward vertical lines on Intuos 3 is fucking impossible

>>5145497
>Yeah, I would recommend a pen sleeve and there should be different tip options

Samsung doesn't currently offer a lot of pen options tips or shit, BUT they announced the S pen pro as well as third party options later this year. So soon there will be different options to pick from like with ipad

>>5142158
You can use a bluetooth keyboard, or use a gamepad for hotkeys.

I use an 8bitdo Zero 2 controller.

>only has two heights
>$500
Almost bought this, what the fuck were they thinking besides JEW.

>>5146478
At least it looks sturdy AF.
I had some arm that wobbled in the roll direction and my monitor would always slightly turn sideways

>>5146478
whats in the box?

>>5146091
>Drawing downward vertical lines on Intuos 3 is fucking impossible
Why?

Kind of curious since i'm basically a novice at drawing and i stumbled in this thread, you can draw on a tablet? like with the Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite, how does it works exactly? you just get the wacom pens and you draw on it?

>>5146633
That one comes with the pen you need. Some have drawing capabilities but don't come with a pen.

Is this thing worth it ? I use intuos pro m , its great , but i'm wondering if i should sell it and buy this , because of the screen.I'm making some money from art (won't be going pro , it's just a serious hobby)

>>5146798
The Wacom One is abysmal (4k pressure levels after 2018??) compared to even the chinkblets below its price points like the Huion Kamvas 13.
Wacom wants its cake in the budget display sector and to eat it too: they want to stop the chinks from taking all their market share, but still keep their premium brand reputation, which leads to them releasing terribly cut down products.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP_-kE0b8WE

>>5146798
non pro wacom display tablets are obsolete by design

>>5146807
pressure is overrated , i've tried some old tablets with 2k or 4k and it's totally fine

>>5146814
>pressure is overrated
The lower pressure levels are more symbolic of Wacom intentionally using outdated tech in a recent product because they don't want it to challenge their premium lineup.

What's the point of releasing non-display tablets with an aspect ratio other than 16:10 or 16:9 in this day and age?

The intuos pro medium is 1.5 and large is 1.44. Just seems like a waste of space.

Is 13 "enough for a display or should I go for 16"?

>>5146840
Go for the largest that you can afford that can fit your desk. 13 is fine but 16 is better.

>>5143863
>>5139218
I guess I'll bite the bullet

>>5146840
12.9" on a used iPad pro is the best digital drawing experience you can have.

Don't bother listening to Zhang.

>>5146903
>sketch toys

kek

>>5137027
When is the next line of cintiq pros coming out? I dont want to spend 2 thousand on tech from 2017

>>5146921
Tablet tech has been stagnating recently, so it's not like you'll be missing out on anything, especially Wacom.

>>5146814
On top of that the One doesn't have
>Tilt
>Rotation
>Pen button
>Eraser
>Incompatible with other Wacom pens
>Incompatible with VESA mount

It's made shit on purpose as a useless non-competitor to Cintiq Pro. With wacom you either pay for the pro or get a children's toy.

>>5146934
>Rotation
>Eraser
Meme. Rest is fair enough, i guess.

>>5146950
Oh and there's jitter.
The budget wacom products include jitter, because fuck you..

>>5146934
I don't know if any of these matter desu

>>5146576
mechanical stuff

>>5138076
Looking at the different things you do I would suggest an Intuos. The Cintiq line (or any other display tablet for that matter) is mainly for people who want to be able to draw super accurately. Think of inkers or any other very specific need.

If you do both 3d art, want to do 2d art sprite stuff and also normal drawing then getting something in the middle of the road is best in your budget. So I would suggest either the current Intuos Pro Medium or maybe even an Intuos 3 or 4 if you use Windows 10 as your operating system.

Do mind though that learning to draw without looking at your hand is a skill on its own. The upside is that drawing tablets without a screen last forever.

>>5146798

If you've got the money, go for it. But maybe it is good to try one out before buying and really check if you like your posture while working on it.

I used to work on an Intuos and switched to a 20-something inch Cintiq. My wrist, neck or back was killing me. For some reason I just could not find a comfortable and ergonomic position so I reverted back to my Intuos.

>>5147415
How can you suggest the intuos pro medium. You are either ignorant or malicious. Ill assume its the first.

>>5138076
You shoulnt be spending more than $100 on a non display medium tablet in 2021

>>5146825
Then again it's the Wacom One. A display tablet specifically focused on a non pro-consumer. So they would not put any extra features on it. Hell, they can probably get sales on their name alone.

Also how many people really notice the difference between 1024 or more lvls of pressure? (real question here)

>>5137027
I just bought the wacom intuos smol and feels really good, anyways hiw the fuck do I map one of the buttons to flip the canvas???

>>5147484
Return it and buy something decent.

Any person who is not a shill can answer me?

>>5147426
I'm a intuos pro m user , I got it with a discount , it's working great .Literally nothing wrong with it .It's expensive , but i feel that mine is gonna last me forever,

>>5147551
It probably will. Only thing is, any screenless tablet would if you just treat it carefully. And you could buy a new chinkshit tablet once every two years and a decade later still not have spent as much as youd need for an intuos pro. Wacom are absolute jews.

>>5147488
You sure are desperate, Zhang.

>>5147610
>schizoid is even defending the small and shitty wacoms now
wew, can't make this shit up

>>5147634
The guy already said it feels good, but you still haven't given up on making a sale. You are one desperate idiot lol.

>>5147484
What keyboard shortcut do you usually use?
Shortcut keys are a meme, you should just keep using your keyboard with your non-pen hand.

bros i kind of regret getting a display tablet over a deco pro
like i enjoy the convenience of being able to accurately draw lines sometimes
but the ergonomics of a regular tablet kinda just felt better

Cintiq 16 is a complete waste of money, right?

Not sure if this is the right thread but I have an issue and I don't know how to fix it.
Whenever I try to navigate in the menus on Clip Studio, there's this weird little lag.
Example: selecting a color, playing with the opacity, using the sliders, etc.
Is there a way to turn that off?
It only happens in the menus and on the sliders, never when drawing on the canvas or anything.
I fell for the Huion trap, so it might just be that

What's the best angle to draw on an Intuos tablet?

>>5147660
No? It's just a budget option.
Still better than chinese crap because it has a really good pen.

>>5147660
I mean, it works and stuff, but compared to chink offerings below its price point it has a subpar color and contrast gamut, no lamination, express keys, and it's still cut-down Wacom tech.

I have a pretty much pristine iPad Air 2. I want to draw on a screen tablet, have a big desktop so I guess I could get something that requires a computer. Should I...
> Keep iPad Air 2 + get Adonit Pixel Stylus
> Sell iPad Air 2 for $200ish on eBay and get iPad Pro 2nd or 3rd gen on ebay + apple pencil
> Get something else that's cheaper

I'm just starting out. I'm very wary of xp-pen and huion, but was thinking of getting a kamvas from amazon (good return policy)

>>5148113
So what does Wacom have? Better texture, less input lag, better tilt?

>>5147484
>fucking up your wrist with a tiny tablet
RETURN IT RETARD

>>5148261
>less input lag
Yes. Although the level of the leading chink brands (Huion, XP-Pen, Veikk, etc) is good enough, because when drawing you'll be too focused on trying to draw to notice, plus it varies by program. I was afraid that the lag on a Kamvas Pro 16 would ruin the experience when watching reviews, but when using it I don't notice.
>better tilt
This too, but the chink tilt can also get the job done, except for a small issue on XP-Pens: >>5139890

>>5148261
A far better pen in every conceivable way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q2tCvdcLII

Drawing performance is what really matters in these things, nothing else. Don't compromise yourself with a crappy chinese pen.

>>5147484
... have you installed the drivers?

So why does everyone use a stand instead of the tablet flat on the table, I cannot use mine unless I do that

>>5148418
Because I don't want to fuck up my back and neck that badly.

>>5137027

For reference: I'm coming from a Wacom Intuos Pro M Touch (PTH651)

>Budget

Ideally 150, but whatever tablet I settle on I'll try my damndest to find a deal on it on eBay, etc for lower than MSRP

>Location

Land of the goyim

>Type (display? non-display? portable?)

Non-display, I have a 12.9 2nd Gen iPad, but using a display tablet doesn't necessarily impress me. So I chose to work using PS with a 21:9 1440p monitor instead since it really isn't that hard to just built up muscle memory and hand-eye coordination instead.

>Size

Large

>Other information

My main thing is that working with a 21:9 monitor, while the screen real estate is absolutely sublime, and I wouldn't trade it for anything: working on a native 16:9 tablet sort of leads to some skewed sensitivity ratios, so I have to give up a decent portion of the already medium-sized tablet in hopes of having consistent muscle memory by getting it back to 1:1 on the X and Y-axis. (Yes I'm aware this will still be the case with the new tablet as well, but I'd much rather prefer the larger space to work with overall)

I'm *strongly* considering Huion's WH1409 because of how absolutely massive it is, plus it ticks all my needs of it being:
>Wireless
>Battery-less pen
>A step-up/equal pressure sensitivity to my Intuos M
>Tilt support
>Doesn't look like complete dogshit

I thought it'd be worth a visit over here to perhaps find some unsavory info about the WH1409 outside of a simple "Huion bad" that I otherwise wouldn't have found :^)

Pic related

>>5148418
Honestly being able to draw on different surfaces will make you a better artist. It sounds dumb but I think it helps sort of calibrate your hand eye coordination. Try drawing on an easel for a while and at different angles on a stand. Could change how you draw for the better. It will always feel weird at first though.

>>5148451
Not really much you can do except get the widest one you can find, I guess. Check the jewtube paid shill """reviews""" to see if you can extract anything useful out of them. Doubt anyone here has one.

Anons, should i buy Wacom One or Xp 15.6
Third worlder here

>>5148563
See >>5146807 >>5146934
Get the XP-Pen, or Huion Kamvas Pro 16. Because while XP-Pen still uses protectors applied on top of the glass, Huion has etched glass which means that the matte and slightly rough surface is built into it, making it last longer and less oops-prone. Unless you prefer drawing on smooth glass like MaSTAR media.

For reasons that are irrelevant I've got an intuos 3 A3 wide. I've already got a smaller sized one that works fine

Are there any pros to this thing? It's way to big to use for me

Anyone here own both a stone age Bamboo and a Cintiq? Can you install both sets of drivers just fine, or are there compatibility problems?

>>5148629
pros:
>big
>maybe someone will pay decent money for it
cons:
>big

>>5148641
I have an old Bamboo I keep around for projects I don't need to do on the Cintiq (24HD Cintiq). I haven't had driver issues with both installed on a Windows and Mac machine. They're two different drivers that don't interact or share code.

>>5148678
Good news, thank you.

Do huion displays have trouble lasting long times? I've been thinking about the kamvas 24 pro.

what settings do you guys usually recommend for pressure sensitivity?

>>5137027
Um,
just got a new drawing tablet
what size images do people mostly start off with?
I don't want to do 6000 x 4000 because it takes up too much memory.
here's my first drawing on my tablet.

>>5148989
i usually go for 2500x2000 and sketch at %50 zoom so my art looks sexy when viewed at 100% at normal resolution

>>5148451
do you not understand how ratios work? buying a larger tablet isn't going to fix your problem.
there's a setting in your preferences tab called mouse mode, use it. it turns off mapping to your desktop, you get 1:1 representation so it doesn't matter how wonky your screen ratio is vs your tablet.
it takes a little bit of getting used to. because your desktop isn't mapped to your screen so your stylus won't just teleport around the screen.

I toggle between mouse and pen mode a lot in my workflow so it is mapped to express keys.

>>5148418
There are primarily 3 kinds of tablet users, some people come from a painting background so they are accustoming to having a more vertical surface. I'm with you, I learned to draw on paper so horizontal is better. Then there are faggots who don't really draw and just use their tablet as a decoration and put it on an arm.

>>5148563
Probably neither. Do you already know how to draw? Why do you think you need a screen tablet?

>>5149037
Seems comfy
Yeah i know how to draw

>>5149023
>I'm with you, I learned to draw on paper so horizontal is better.
This is correct, thanks frend I'm glad to know this is common

>>5149012

> so I have to give up a decent portion of the already medium-sized tablet in hopes of having consistent muscle memory by getting it back to 1:1 on the X and Y-axis. (Yes I'm aware this will still be the case with the new tablet as well, but I'd much rather prefer the larger space to work with overall)

I went over this point exactly, I am well aware that getting *another* larger 16:9 isn't going to magically become 21:9. I currently have about 1/4 of the vertical space on the tablet gone to accommodate the wonky ratio.

But, if I get a larger tablet: I still come out with more overall real estate. So it could make it a little more bearable.

E.g, Going by the specs of both tabs I'd be going from 51.4 square inches to 118 square inches. Regardless of how you slice it, it's a lot cozier to work with.

>>5148401
>t. never drawn in his life

>linking rutten

>muh jitter when doing a slow diagonal line so its useless


This board needs a non artist purge

>>5149264
>This board needs a non artist purge
And you'd be the first to go, being a chinese salesman and all.
You literally have no argument. The Pro Pen 2 blows your chinese garbage pens out of the water. So does the Apple Pencil and S-Pen.

>>5149264
> jittery lines are ok
> i’m an artist like you, totally not shilling

>>5149136
you’re aware that both those tablets require a separate computer? they aren’t portable or light. you are committing to drawing in one place.

>>5149270
>schizo
Want me to start posting the caps of you getting destroyed again? Youll have to go cry to the jannies like usual
>>5138178

>>5149293
>doesnt draw

>therefore doesnt know that it the software affects your line performance with optimization and stabilizers, both active and passive
>therefore doesnt know that you can literally create anything you need with the cheapest shittiest tablet, even a mouse
>therefore doesnt know that your skill is 99.9% of what will determine your outcome
>therefore doesnt know that career tablet reviewers come up with inflated comparison points which are useless memes because they need content

>>5149306
You're not an artist though, you're a chinese salesman.

>>5149306
>falling for the tablet jew at all
>falling for the mouse jew
>not manually writing your images directly in binary
ngmi

>>5149329
PYW then.

>>5149472
Why is a chinese salesman asking people to post their work? It's not like you have any of your own.

>>5149522
Thought so lmao

capped

Whats the difference detween the. Xp-pen deco 1 and the 1 v2?

All I see is the v2 has tilt now?

>>5149522
>It's not like you have any of your own.
Actually a couple of guys did post their work

You (beecause i know it's you) always responded with
>HA HA THAT"S SHIT
or
>you stole it
>no referse search
>you flipped it

And never posted your own.
I remember.

>>5149586
Added tilt and a different pen. The 01 pen was somewhat uncomfortable, 01v2 has the more standard flared tip.

>>5149586
Deco 01 has some issues. See >>5144760
No idea if they fixed any of them in V2 though.

>>5149136
i have plenty space here and 2 computers, this will not be a problem

>>5149590
and you're chinese.

>>5149586
They're both crap. If you're on a budget, get an Intuos 3 off Ebay. The pen won't give you problems.

>>5149842
Get a load of this defeated retard
hahahahahha

You will never ever post your work because you are, quite simply, not an artist and you know it


You fucking loser

>>5149876
>You will never ever post your work because you are, quite simply, not an artist and you know it
Projecting again, chang.

>>5149882
>>5149472
Already have. Your turn now. Ill wait.
Im not showing my outlets here, a shitty sketch is all youre worth.

>>5149886
That garbage? I didn't even bother clicking.
I guess it's hard to improve your skills when your dayjob is spending 24/7 in this thread and all the other tablet threads across the internet, desperately shilling bad quality chinese tablets.

>>5149888
oh nononono

keep it up, this is great

>>5137027
Just to make this clear to new guys trying to buy a screen tablet, parallax is a meme, so don't worry about that point. You can draw perfectly considering that aspect with tablets for like 5-7 years ago that are at least in the mid range of price.
That is because the difference in that between modern tablets is very low, also the name is just a market name for the topic, for example, Wacom also have reduced parallax but they don't call that materials "laminated screen", is just a glass that they build to have less distance, is the same thing. Don't worry about that topic if you are going to buy a modern screen tablet.You should focus on the other aspects.

>>5149904
>parallax is a meme
It isn't. Even a bit of parallax can throw you off if you're trying to connect lines.

>>5149911
No, you can draw without any problems, with and old screen tablet, check wacom, check even olds ipads, perfectly fine.

I got the 11 inch ipad, I regret not getting the 12'9. size matters kids

>>5149926
Sure, you can draw just fine with an old tablet, just like you can go from point A to point B in a low spec 80s car without air conditioning, ABS, ESC, etc... but it's always nice to have the latest features.

>>5149911
Out of curiosity, how do you rationalize all the artists using displays from before 2015 being able to produce great work? Honestly, just curious as to how your personal brain connects the dots and overcomes the dissonance

>>5149964
I don't, not all thinking has to be strictly black and white. They just got used to it.

>>5149969
Just like how you get used to the disconnect on displayless tablets. So yeah, a meme. You get used to it. The primary value that a display has is that active area ratio matches your drawing exactly, so a 5cm movement creates a 5cm line.

>>5149911
I'm running a cintiq 13hd, parallax is very noticeable, especially around the edges of the display, but drawing it barely ever effects my performance. If I ever fail to connect a line its usually just cause I'm bad.

I will say that I've never used a tablet without parallax though.

>>5149986
this dude draws. parallax really isn't that big of a deal, even less if you spend the ~30 seconds every session on recalibrating to your seating position of the day.

So, I just wanted to say.

Fuck ALL of you fucking double niggers who convinced me to not get a wacom after all these years, This shit feels like drawing on paper and just that little bit of resistance make so much of a difference. That combined with the settings, the quality and the overall feel and build of the thing just blows every second rate tablet I've had out of the water. It makes me feel like I have so much more control over my strokes its insane. And this is the shitty medium one!

Im springing for the pro as soon as possible and I suggest everyone do the same. Wacom blows every other tablet in existence out of the water and there is absolutely no comparison or competition. You fuckers successfully crabbed the fuck out of me and its held back my progress all this time. NEVER AGAIN!

>>5150348
Uh huh. Lol

>>5150374
Laugh all you want. After only a few days I can fucking FEEEL The path to my gains crystallizing. Maybe you're like me and the /ic/ propaganda has burrowed its way into your veins. I can only say in that case is that I'll be waiting for you at the promised land. You'll make your way here soon my brother and we'll both GMI once you've finally come back home.

>>5150391
I use a cintiq pro 24. I can confidently say that if you buy a 350 dollar screenless tablet in 2021, you are a paint chugging simpleton

>>5150396
Seconding this. My brother has the same tablet and when he got me the 16 for my birthday this year it really was like night and day going from screenless to screen.

>>5150391
If you really wanna make it don't waste money on the pro. Just bite the bullet and get a screen tablet.

>>5150423
That wasn't the point ya fucking nunce.

>>5147654
why deco pro

>>5143435
lmao i got the 24 and it's heavy as fuck. not mobile and you need a PC and probably a generator

>>5144743
>This is a meme.
it feels good to use nicely built things

I'm drawing on a wacom bamboo and I find it really difficult to translate my paper skills to digital, it's as if I am drawing from square 1 all over again, all my years of training with charcoal and sanguigna seem forfeit, everything seems flat and souless, what the fuuuuuuuck

tell me it gets better later, I'm just obsessing over this right?

>>5150581
in my budget, scroll wheel, good size

ipad users. do you use a matte screen protector or not?

I'm about to buy an iPad pro 12.9 and the research for accessories is driving me insane bros. Every video seems like a shill and I don't know anymore what case should I get or what brand for the matte screen protector is the best

>>5150933
elecom is the best

>>5150634
Everyone goes through this. Just keep at it.

can you have two different clip studio subscriptions? I use EX on my computer, but only want the pro sub on my tablet.

I dont recommend the note 20 for anything more than doodles

>>5151038
well it's a phone
dunno who'd buy it as their main drawing "tablet"

>>5151066
are you sure?

>>5150838
Nope. Just get used to glass; that way your nibs dont wear out and you get optimal colors.

>>5150641
brainlet

>>5137027

>>5149264
t. non artist

>>5147415
This.

>>5146930
Are you sure?

New thread:

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>>5151123
why?