/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5150578
>copying other artists
You mean like Loomis?

Ian McCaig said he kept copying loomis even into his professional career. Before every movie he'd work on, he'd copy through FDFAIW all the way through. It was his "bible for learning how to draw humans"

>>5150578
Me.

>>5150613
>some literallywho concept artist
>famous artist

>>5150667
>has never heard of Iain McCaig
ngmi

>>5150667
retard newfag

>>5150721
ah yes, who could forget the great artist behind the concept art for guardians of the galaxy, avengers and nu star wars, or the stellar art direction of the elder scrolls legends

>>5150749
just admit you lost the argument.

>>5150845
>famous artist
>names an “artist” literally >99% of people never heard of
>hurrrrrrrr well I like him
top lel

>>5150858
>only people from india and china can be famous

>>5150907
>resorting to strawmen
take L, iain

Norman Rockwell studied under George Bridgman

>>5150578
Leonardo da Vinci
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>>5150858
Literally every artist knows Ian McCaig. You're the one living under a rock. I'm not even a fan of Ian, I'm a weeb, but I still know his name just because of how prolific he is in the business.

Besides, there's pic-related.

>>5151201
>I know his name
>types the wrong name twice

>>5151201
I literally don’t know who that is.

>>5150578
i mean every pro artist living today has read Loomis at some point, for a long time Figure Drawing for All Its Worth was like the default figure drawing book

>>5150578
Alex Ross and Steve Rude (Rude's sketchbook page studying Loomis attached).
But your premise is flawed. Learning to draw does not occur in a tightly prescribed, linear way. It often starts by picking up drawing casually and gradually building skills. Building those skills can happen a number of ways, including copying artists and studying sources like Loomis.

>>5150749
>nu starwars
the prequel trilogy had 10/10 art direction. You need to stop getting your opinions from memes

>>5150928
Yeah, he learned under the master, not the master's watered down loser student who never made a true impact in ad art and has his book pulled off the shelves before Bridgman's own.

>>5151510
what the fuck is actually wrong with you?

loomis is fine if you are a geek artist who is into cape shit because those came around the same time as loomis so his style resonates with these geeks.

inb4 its just fundamentals

can you draw if its not particularly 'fun' to you? Its creatively stimulating I suppose but I have absolutely no passion or motivation for it since I was a kid. I appreciate the arts and I want it to be one of the creative outlets in my life, but is it healthy to treat it like a grind simply to I guess, make myself more interesting? I guess asian parents make their kids do creative shit in a grinding manner until theres no room for any fun or passion at all, only talent, and those type of kids generally turn out alright.

Ive spent most of my life being a gluttonous lazy heathen, I want to live more wholesomely and intellectually. I think it would be good for me but it feels unnatural doing something creative without it providing any sort of enjoyment to me. Until now all of my creative pursuits have been almost entirely intrinsically motivated but that motivation is just gone.

>>5151680
That's for you to answer. Unironically the best advice anyone can give is - make up your own damn mind. I'm in a simillar boat where learning to do art is part of my self-improvement agenda. I can't say that grinding perspective shapes and loomis heads has been 'fun' at any point, but it's a means to an end I really want to achieve. Any measurable progress feels rewarding, and keeps me motivated enough to draw every day.

>>5150749

>>5151695
do you happen to have any sort of resource to help me define a self improvement agenda? That's basically what I'm trying to do but so far it's been a sloppy and misguided manner. Definitely need to add getting organized to the list lmfao. All the videos on youtube I see coming up are from femblogger types that im not even gonna waste my time with

>>5151250
>i mean every pro artist living today has read Loomis at some point
Umm I guess that makes me not pro despite making my living from art

>>5151680
>intellectually
Wrong direction. Go kind, spiritual, excited and perceptive instead.

>>5151752
good advice anon

>>5151721
>do you happen to have any sort of resource to help me define a self improvement agenda?
I'm not him, but here are some of the authors that changed my life: Frank Forencich, Orison Swett Marden, Pedram Shojai, Thich Nhat Hanh.

Definitely ignore all the femibloggers and 99% of everything written in the last thirty years.

>>5151750
I'd never heard of Loomis until I came here, and I got an art degree before most /ic anons were born.

His fame is really nothing outside of /ic.

>>5150858
>>5150749
Not him but even I have a folder of Iain McCaig's work in my inspiration folder.

If you don't know who people like McCaig, just what are you learning from? 90's harem anime VHS?

>>5151811
>If you don't know who people like McCaig, just what are you learning from? 90's harem anime VHS?
American black and white thinking detected. "If you don't eat Decent Steak™ then what do you eat? Dirty gravel and wooden sticks dipped in urine?"

>>5150578
remember that time you saw a fly on a youtube comment picture and tried to swat it with your hand because it seemed real at first?

this fag in the picture came up with that joke, he painted a fly on a table so realistic that his friend rushed to swat it, he was a fun guy like that, don't stress about who you learn from, just make sure it's not a shitty american comics poser

>>5151808
You are just uneducated.

>>5151997
>You are just uneducated.
Education is not needed to make great art. Determination, hard work and erudition are.

I'm not him but I got my education in science and then transitioned to being an artist. Never received a day of art education.

>>5152000
pyw
I bet you'll make up a reason why you won't post your work though.

>>5152005
pyw
I bet you'll make up a reason why you won't post your work though.

>>5152008
always the same with you crabs, never post here again

>>5150578
>at a young age
Defeatism
Yeah they might always have an edge but stop worrying about your fucking age and just draw

>>5152005
>pyw
>I bet you'll make up a reason why you won't post your work though.
You're right: No one good associates with 4chan,

the contours on these things always feel weird to me

>>5151250
Every M*rrican pro artist

There's nothing inherently special about Loomis. His system was published long ago, it works, and there's no good reason to come up with a new one. That's why he endures. At the end of the day, it's just construction. You can make your own observations about proportions and perspective in the human figure, and never have to read one page of Loomis. Everything he says is common sense, based off observation that anyone could make.

You don't have to "grind fundies" like /ic/ tells you. If you're starting and finishing an art project on a regular basis, then you are doing that anyways.

>>5150578
You need to give up thinking there's one single way and accept you are going to have to do all these things sooner or later.

>>5150578
Me