/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

is this chicken stratch really that bad? i cant seem to improve my line quality much beyond this? plus i always paint over it anyways

So the past few days I've been drawing boxes in perspective and shading then and trying to redraw referenc images and they actually looked somewhat decent for someone who draws really rarely, but today I picked up fun with pencil and I'm drawing heads t hat i'm creating and JESUS CHRIST I'M GOING TO FUCKING HURT MYSELF I CANNOT GET A BASIC CARTOON HEAD TO NOT LOOK LIKE A CHILDRENS DRAWING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Reposting this sketch
Asking for opinion/advice for the better positioning/placement/gesture of the arms or any other thing

(To the one who said it was cute on Prev thread, ty <3)

>>5133288
We all have those days, try getting inspired watching some artworks you like or wanna try

>>5133273
Was curious if I could improve the draw by only erasing lines to clean things up. Take this however you like.

>>5133313
Yes this is much better. The proportions are pretty damn accurate for such a tricky angle, good job anon. Just slow down and draw light at first, emphasize the right marks when you find them. If you focus on improve both proportions and line quality then you’ll be gitting gud in no time

>>5133288
Stop being a retard, follow the recipe. If you draw a line and it is not as the recipe told you to then go back. It’s like you’re cooking a cake and when you accidentally pour in twice the flour you meant to you just go ahead and cook the fucker anyway. Stop being a retard

>>5133318
I'm a different anon, I'm just playing around with his drawing for fun.

>>5133313
>>5133273
Sketches are supposed to be rough anon. Line quality comes from practice. Just go through a finishing process for the lines.

This sketch looks real good. It isn't the best, you didn't really capture what's going on with the neck, but it looks good, it reads as a handsome face. Well done.

Here's what you do:
>Any layers you used to make this sketch, merge into 1.
>Turn down the opacity on your merged sketch layer in photoshop. I find 25-35% is good.
>Make a new layer on top of the sketch layer.
>Trace over your sketch while attempting to connect your lines that are unfinished. Be as clean as you can, now you that you have your sketch as a guide, it should be easier.

Keep doing this with your drawings, and with enough practice you'll get cleaner. The thing is, if you know how to paint over the sketch, I'm sure you already know this process. You just have to get off your ass and do it, anon. Put in that work.

So maybe what you really want to know is why do cleans lines matter? All I can say that is you'd be a better more versatile artist if you practice clean line illustration and painting. Why would you ever want to be less versatile? Why would you ever want to be less good than you could be?

arghhhh

>>5133252
Heres what ive been working on today ,did i make any mistakes ?

>>5133328
Plua i made this

>>5133252
Hey, had some fun trying out some new brushes and colors. What do you all think about it?
It's a necron/mechanicus hybrid

It could be better but i dont know how it could be better (asides from the linework ofc)

howdy

>>5133313
i usually do a bit of that myself too. not so much with this one
>>5133324
yeah the idea to do that was always there the issue is i have ZERO ambition for that type of drawing, i dont know maybe illustration later but for now its painting. ill have to give a try a few times and see how they turn out and incorporate into my routine. good to know that its passable as is

Hello anons It's been around 3 days since you've directed me to Scott Eaton and this is my current progress.

I feel I've improved a lot thanks to your advice, thank you so much!

>>5133346
Ire mon

>>5133378
?

Am I doing gesture correctly, here?

>>5133395
what's the point of doing gesture without the meat?

>>5133399
Gesture is gesture anon

>>5133399
What do you mean, without the meat anon?

>>5133399
You’ve heard of feel the form? Get ready for
>feel the flow

>>5133414
Not him, but all you have done so far is the line work. The lines in don't shape the proportions, or the dimensions. I can assume he meant draw the body now by referring to it as "the meat"

>>5133395
Kinda hard to tell what's happening in most of them since they're all really messy

>>5133430
ue

Pic related is good gesture.

That feel when you're looking at studies/sketches of artists you like and you can see who they're learning from. Bridgman in this case.

>>5133395
I would say you're on the right track, just keep up with the practice. You're simplifying which is really nice, but try to make your lines cleaner and don't be afraid to thing your gesture a little bit further if you want to give them more time. Gesture is just the first stage in a drawing after all.

>>5133444
Is the book based on his work to learn from while sketching?

>>5133371
good progress but try capturing some of the more extreme top down/bottom angles as well to really solifidy your understanding of the form

Is Drawabox a big meme or will it really help me visualise things in three dimensions? I see people badmouth it here all the time but I've learned to take literally everything /ic/ says with the largest grain of salt on earth.

>>5133492
Draw a box is based off of dynamic sketching by Peter Han, you're basically getting an inferior copy of that course. There are of course helpful things in it, the draftsmanship exercises will help you if you don't have line confidence for example. If I were you I'd look into Han's original course, I feel it's much more comprehensive. If you wanna go with draw a box, you're free to do so, but just don't get stuck in an infinite loop of drawing boxes like so many people do.

>>5133290
the lower leg seems a little weird. like it is too short.

>>5133344
the worse thing is the clothes, they just don't read like fabric at all it looks more like a origami.

How deep into perspective should I go before learning construction?

>draw from reference
>looks.. fine? Looks ok. Not accurate but not awful. Looks like the thing.

>Draw from imagination
>incorrect anatomy, proportions, perspective, shading

How the.... How do I advance from "I can draw what I see using construction" to "i can draw what I want?"

>>5133530
Draw the thing from reference a hundred times at different angles. You need to build your visual library

need crit on the use of line weight, idk if i'm doing it right and how to improve it.

>>5133492
its ok just don't get stuck grinding lines or boxes instead of drawing
and imo you should have solid observation skills before you learn construction

>>5133525
i think the level that perspective made easy goes to is fine for most people, if you want to draw more mechanical stuff then you probably need more

>>5133532
It almost feels like each pass I take is worse than the last. Is there some sort of subconscious rushing people get into?

>>5133535
I wanna draw both people and vehicles

>>5133530
Draw the reference but as if you were viewing it from a different angle.

>>5133543
have you gone through perspective made easy? it's probably fine for learning construction and if you are having trouble with more complex perspectives then go through some other course/book. i haven't taken them but olsen's perspective course and How to Draw by Robertson are supposedly good

yer a wizzard harry

>>5133548
oooooh that's what the other anon meant too. great thanks!

i really suck considering how long ive been at this. its upsetting u.u

>>5133596
How long? Did you use ref?

Watching Vilppu and fuck this ancient piece of shit, wish he would die, wish there was someone super clear cut and analytical to teach this.
Also how to improve my faces guys?

>>5133615
by drawing something new instead of reposting very old stuff

Bridgmanon, posting non-digital update

>>5133629
Actually redrawing it, will prolly still look like shit but meh

>>5133615
>Also how to improve my faces guys?
Loomis

>>5133634
Stuck on Fun with a Pencil, how to make things look 3D and before you say perspective made easy, stuck on it because I'm also doing KTD/RSOTB

I feel weird seeing some actual proper progress happening with what I draw in just a few days since I started watching some vids on how to construct certain 3D shapes and angles of body parts. I mean, it's not the best shit ever but it's actually 10 times better than what I could draw prior to researching some stuff then putting it in practice.

Should I really be weary of dimming blue light on my screens when coloring?

Another rough sketch, from imagination

>>5133293
>>5133320
aight let's do this

>>5133328
>>5133330
I very much like both of these.
First one gives me a Loomis vibe and second is just great! You're on the way there anon. Don't stop.

>>5133776
why is she so long

>>5133811
which proportion are you referring to?

Attempting Vilppu, 90 seconds
Here's what I "get" and what I don't understand
I get the divide the torso in two balls or a ball and a rectangle clashing and twisting, draw around it, I don't get the exact how, or what's important and what's not, I don't get the contour lines or how would you even make figures that are very foreshortened, I don't get the limbs.

anon you always had trouble learning from books in school
how come you're gonna try to start learning from them for art

How do I get critique on my art that won't make me cry? I posted something I drew last thread, but no one responded. If I post it again, I'll look like a little nerd.

>>5133909
Just repost it. I’ll critique it, if you critique mine too
>>5133776
>>5133631

>>5133914
But I'm beg as well. I don't think I'll be able to critique it in a way that is constructive.

I have a very bad sense of 3D, how can I draw something that's structure but not volume?

>>5133931
With 2d shapes, squares, circles, lines for .angles

>>5133935
No, how can you imply it? How to pick something?

>>5133931
looks fine say for the eyes, which definitely have an obvious volume

>>5133937
Objects overlapping have wider shadow, closer objects look bigger and thicker lines, far things are opposite and look smaller and thin lines. Try doing value studies for structure without volume

>>5133947
For beginners it's fine to start with just 3 values: shadow, midtone and light. Look up crosshatching

>>5133371
Is the course available online somewhere?

>>5133947
stuck on loomis and you think I can handle that? Please, give me a fucking break.
>>5133725
Weather must be fucking nice and real easy on heaven if you're improving that quickly, must be real nice to have some talent flowing in your veins

Is using the bean a good method for drawing torsos?

>>5133977
It doesn't matter what you use as a base, as long as you understand it. Once you build on it with the proper anatomy, all of that will disappear. So learn your anatomy, and practice it a lot.

>>5133853
THAT BAD HUH?
Oh but the other anon who posted yesterday gets compliments and a kiss on the arse

THE REFERENCE
Oh wait for the attempt YOURE GOING TO LOVE IT

wHEN YOUr first gestures look like this, of course you get compliments and crit
TALENT knows talent and all that
But when they look like this >>5133853
If I could get one wish, at this point why even wish or want artistic skill, I'd ask to torture Vilppu and loomis for all eternity

>>5133993
And the attempt
16 to 22 minutes FOR THIS?
Got that perfect body but she ain't got the moves

>>5134004
I'm sad too :( Lets be friends?

GLENN VILPPU
OH I LOATHE YOU

>>5133993
>>5134003
mIGHT give my heart a ridE

>>5134004
Are you sad> WHATs the reason for you being sad, you c learly want need want someone to ask you
nice drawing anon, let me guess youve been drawing for a day huh are you sad>? is that what you want to hear? are you sad? come on tell me why are you soooooo sad

>>5134020
made me kek. Thanks

>>5134030
so it made you laugh oh wow thanks for telling me i was clearly waiting for that i needed to know that huh some ego stroking wow thanks anon so it made you laugh huh so it made you laugh huh
ohh im not joking around, if i could get my hands on vilppu oh in that case I would completely lose it

>>5134003
>>5134020
>>5134023
Chill, anon; i’d recommend you to keep those draws for the record and contrast your improvements
Keep it up

>>5134036
Tell me, how long have I been drawing for? Come on take a guess based on skill

got this one into digital

>>5134020
>>5134023
>>5134026

>>5134037
>FoUr MoNtHs

>>5134038
Old sketch

>>5134037
you're actually a very good artist making these scribbly drawings and pretending to be very bad. The whole 4 months thing was a troll from the very beginning. I can tell based on the type of mistakes you're making. They're all intentional.

Fucking glad Loomis is dead and his daughter too, god I fucking hate him, and stay dead for all of eternity you maggot snack
can you imagine finding his grave? HAHA
>>5134042
>>5134038
Talent? How long have you been drawing for?
>>5134043
If i WAS a good artist all along, believe me I'd working on my ideas

honestly schizoanon is my favorite character on this board. Watching him crash and burn like this makes me hopeful for my own future.

>>5134046
What future? You're going to be a twitter artist at best.
No NBA or NFL player would gain confidence of laughing at an amateur, you weren't born into it kiddo.
Hell if things don't progress I can do one of the most artistic things a human will ever do in all of history, but that's a last resort option.

>>5134037
Idk, anon; i’ve been drawing inconsistently for at least 12 years, still beg-tier, had many downs and “why do i even” moments, but never wanted to stop doing something i like.
Again, relax, take your time.

>>5134045
I could tell the instant I saw the glenn vilppu sketch. You caught his likeness excellently. You're not putting enough effort into making these convincing /beg/ sketches. A beginner (for the first year at least) would get the whole big structure wrong, but everything you do is proportionate. You just make those ugly eyes and give everything a chicken-scratch look.

>>5134035
Just look at this. Look at the rabbit. It's excellent. Look at the nose and the mouth of that guy.

im not saying you're a professional artist by any means, but you have to had more than 4-5 montsh experience. At least a year or two

>>5134043
Based if true.

>>5134045

> >>5134051

>>5134051
Maybe, alright, wish you luck because you were nice to me and I like that drawing, please post more.
>>5134055
Maybe I draw better when pissed off but not too emotional

The rabbit is not mine lol, it's a copy from this video https://youtu.be/GvyNyFXHj4k
Now the other guy, that's all me, was probably very focused on it, let me post the reference

I tried using water colors for the first time. I think it's my new favorite medium

>>5134073
>>5134055

>>5134076
hOW LONG have you been drawing for? THats your first time using watercolor
HAHAHAH its over for me isnt it?

>>5134043
>pretending to be very bad.
>>5134055
So since I'm not pretending
Ouch
Guess I actually feel bad this time, huh? That's wHAT i am? Really really bad? Fuck me, maybe euthanasia should be legal

>>5134081
On and off since I was like four or something just doing dumb doodles in school when I was bored. Only started actually trying to improve a little bit less than a year ago though. Your sketches of those birds and stuff were actually pretty good you just need to do the actual lineart

>>5134081
drawing from reference is not cheating. It's how you improve.

4-months-kun! I DECLARE YOU TALENTED. Your progress is amazing for 4 months.

I dont know if I get this right..

>>5134055
You see anon, so I'm really really bad, huh? That's all I am, if I'm unable to improve then what I've seen will go without sharing, back in my home country you see, Blade Runner, I earned my right to use the Tears in Rain speech, but I prefer the eye one, If only you could see and hope to ever draw what I've seen, I need to succeed at this, I need and hunger to improve, no way around it, if I don't the price is too high I can't take it.

>>5134107
look at how symmetrical that face is, anon. That's pretty good..

Also, why do all of your images have 4chan numbers as names?

>>5134050
You realize that's not how the world works, right? Shitty people make it big all the time.

>>5134104

reference,,

>>5134110
It's a matter of talent and belonging on a lane, not attitude, assholes make it big, lucky or talented, your average and statistics mean we both enter into that category, your average asshole is just another drop of water.
>>5134101
The drawing I planned to post means I'm not talented, 2 portraits and it all looks wrong, stiff, compact.
>>5134094
That's lineart though, right?
>>5134109
It's not, there's no structure, it's a flat plane with some marks on it, where are the cheekbones, even for stylization and this was no deliberate choice, it lacks lot of thins, the mouth is barely there, mouths are my enemy
The nose? oh please, that's amateur, I'm amateur.

>>5134107
That ain't lineart

>>5134073
It’s all right, anon

Actually don’t have much of that “darky” type of style; usually doodle them anywhere when I’ve overwhelming depression or sad/mixed feelings, got treated recently so those moments are fewer now

>>5134101
>>5134081
>>5134035
Look at the exact measurements, overlap it, all that construction and both the forehead and whatever it's on top of her, doesn't match neither the reference or itself, the shadows on the eyes? Please, that's what a kid would do if he knew value goes there but has no idea how to represent it, so that's what I did, big shapes and fill it in like it was sonar, call it a day
So mouth and nose, you can thank Keys to Drawing for that because it wasn't all me

>>5134120
Look at the neck and tell me that's "talent" I don't need your pity, those "planes" are pathetic, clearly tried to bend the lines once I got at the bottom of it but can't sell the twisting, ran out of space to copy the rabbit, guy's an amateur.
>>5134118
Sounds like it's better for you not to have tons of those them, still, like your digital things, nice volume

>>5134104
Looks nice anon, maybe lower the bust a bit for the
Smiling female on the right and add some detail of mass impact on the butts

>>5134113
>>5134120
a good artist could never bring themselves to make a truly bad drawing :)

>>5134043
>you're actually a very good artist making these scribbly drawings and pretending to be very bad
VERY BAD HUH? ANYTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT OR SHOULD I GOT WITH PLAN B?
is there any hope? what shoudl I be using? 5 months anon Ive been drawing for 5 months now and i cant fail
so what should I use? is there any hope? I dont feel the spark myself yknow
my drawings from imagination are lackluster

>>5134130
what do you mean by that? are you calling me talentless because im not pretending
so you do really think im very bad huh
very bad
5 months and I cant even earn regular bad
last resort option to make my name something that matters? no i cant do it
VERY BAD huh?

>>5134043
I won't go so far as to say he's pretending but he's obviously got a knack for art but negs himself all the time. It's almost like God's playing a prank on the other /beg/s here.

I can't get my hands on the brown, thick paper Peter Han recommends in dynamic sketching at the moment. Should I be okay with a regular old sketchpad for week 1?

>>5134222
It doesn't matter use whatever

struggling with the blooks as usual. this is like what, the 4th time I did the first 20 something pages

>>5134243
why tho
just move on, you're not supposed to be good immediately. Also, don't use fun with a pencil, there are better resources that have been made in the last 100 years.

>>5134132
/ic/ cant think for you. I genuinely think a lot of people here fall into the trap of expecting, or even needing, /ic/ to do all their learning, maybe even you more so then others. I don't think talent exists. I think success is dependent on your ability to think for yourself which sadly is dependent on how smart you are but it's not a particularly high bar to clear.

/ic/ is good for many things but the one thing it's not is a simple step by step tutorial with tricks to skip right to being a professional artist. If you want progress you need to figure that shit out for yourself but if it helps this is what i'd do. Set your goals. Make your best plan to reach those goals with all your current understanding and resources at your disposal. Execute your plan and amend according to new knowledge gained. Rinse Repeat for all new goals.

Pic is my early beginner gains, nothing impressive but a vast and sudden improvement following a change in mindset. Stop sperging and get more critical with yourself, let your brain stay on instead of shutting it off with incoherent baby rage.

>resolve to study in earnest before trying to finish pieces
>scribble some stuff
>decide to finish it
>spend a week drafting and re-drafting until something okay-ish emerges through sheer rng, but nothing is learned
>abandon before coloring, resolve to study in earnest before trying to finish pieces
Well shit, this is the kind of autism that needs actual drugs to fix. I'll go get diagnosed with OCD, I guess.

At least I'm having fun with a pencil.

>>5133444
gross pool party fiora

Where did everything go so wrong /beg/

>>5134558
Here's my ref btw

Froges
Sometimes my tablet fucks up pressure sensitivity, or perhaps it's PS, I've decided it's better not to get distracted and correct this during warmups
But during regular sketching it's annoying

>>5134415
At least you got some decent booba and a moeblob face out of this. Trust me coomers don't give a fuck about anything else

i can't draw and im never ever ever gonna make it. i just feel like shit when i look at what other people can do and i feel unmotivated before i even start because i know it’s gonna be shit.
sorry i just had to blogpost

>>5133252
>>5131952
Worked on it a little more

redid the legs and skit/cloak thing.

I don't know. I need to do some proper line/inking studies.

Also looks way too top heavy.

Anyway, one sheep, two sheep. It's time, for sleep.

>>5134604
>i can't draw and im never ever ever gonna make it.

So do I, that never stopped me. Start looking at the people who are worse than you too. Go read /fit/ for a while and replace "gains" with "Loomis" if you want to learn how not to go crazy about never making it.

how can I fix this?

how can I fix this?

How do I get better at faces

I'm working on gesture before applying construction. Is all I need for the arms and legs just 1 or 2 lines and that's it?

>>5133776
Stop drawing such harsh, thick lines everywhere.

>>5134774
Gesture, center of gravity balance. The girl looks stiff and like she's falling over

>>5134774
Not /beg/

>>5134838
/beg/ composition

Loomis mannequins are only a learning tool. You can skip them entirely once you've practiced them enough.

Going to be doing some practices based on the Reilly method. This was from yesterday and I'll be doing another one today. Do my line placements seem correct? The person I was watching drew a straight line for the brow line but to me it seems like the brow line should curve around the sphere of the head so I made mine curved. Was I right?

Critique me in this please?

>>5134853
I realize I said browline but I mean more so the "cut in" where the eyes rest.

Yesterday's doodle

something i need to fix?

>>5134577
cuteeee
>>5134558
kek, you managed to get the expression very well.

>>5134838
>not /beg/
for you

>>5134801
keep practicing

Opinion on this rendering style? first time painting without lineart

Are reilly heads better than loomis heads?

Any tips for creating interesting color accents? Is it just trial and error or should I make a palette beforehand and stick with it? I’m pretty new to painting/color in general, I’m considering doing some trad acrylic paintings to get myself more comfortable with it.

>>5135106
i think the blue there is a good start because it's something that complements the orange background. i also see that you're using orange as a reflection color which is a good idea. pretty much either go with something matching or complementing the background, that's what I do

>>5134558
cute! good job.

>>5135080
Give us more information about what are you trying to create or how is the fiction piece that character is supposed to be immersed in.

The shading style should fit the style of the fiction piece, in a way that helps to convey the kind of "atmosphere" the author intended for it.
E.g. Some shading styles are better fit for edgy fiction pieces while others are better for more "light-hearted" fiction if that makes sense.

>>5135154
Example of very edgy fiction.

Still can't into faces, this is bullshit
>>5134407
Thanks for telling me things I already know, only new thing is your humble brag of a pic, so you my "friend" can go fuck yourself.

>>5135154
>>5135164
You really wanted to post that pic and that "knowledge" huh?

>>5135109
Ahh ok thanks anon! It helps to know I'm somewhat headed in the right direction. I wouldn't say that piece is "finished" but I'm gonna drop it for now and keep experimenting on the next one

>>5135154
*shading and rendering

>>5135169
Yeah. And you're welcome to add yours too.

>>5135166
aND ANOTHER fucking one
Failed
none of my portraits even resemble the reference now, talent? my fucking ass
I'd kill myself if I was talented

>>5135154
Non-edgy example.

>>5135169
Still waiting for your pics and "knowledge", anon.
Don't a crab, help this guy out >>5135080.

>>5135207
*be

>>5135207
Welp, guess >>5135169 was all talk and no action. Too bad, i really wanted to hear his advice on rendering and shading.

>>5135212
>>5128190
Also don’t just post without asking for specific criticism or saying what you’re trying to work on

Just fuck me, so much for gesture helping, can't even do construction right

Basically copy pasted from the stupid questions thread but can you do the Brent Eviston courses digitally? I'm using CSP but I'm not sure if what he's teaching applies that much to digital

>>5134806
It was overwrote with ballpoint

>>5135194
try drawing a crumpled paper

>>5135231
Shut the fuck up already.

>>5135254
Don't talk to a schizo. Ever.
This vile and foul creature shits every thread it visits.

>>5135254
Will do, any level I should be aiming for? What defines a bad one from a good one?
>>5135264
No, I don't think I will, and how are you going to accomplish that? Make me leave? Face it, you got jackshit.

>>5135212
Anon, I...
I'M GONNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>5133252
Anon posted this in the last thread, what book is this?

Is it better for gains to draw an hour a day or two hours every other day?

>>5135276
6 hours

>>5135275
Figure Drawing Design and Invention by Michael Tampon

>>5135276
The most important thing is to know what you're trying to learn while you are drawing, whatever it is you are doing make sure you have a goal in mind

>>5135276
Whichever one you can keep up as a consistent habit

>>5135276
From the moment you wake up until you pass out every day.

having really bad time desu

>>5135283
God bless anon.

That fucking schizo's been shitting up these threads. Does ignoring it work or has that already been attempted?

>>5135154
This is supposed to be an anthro rat rogue I am doing for practice painting, doing everything on one layer because the brush works the best that way, I am starting with warm colors and the add another layer for ambient lighting. I am using porforever and Nintendo 64 Zelda art as a reference

I hope you guys didn't miss Vilppu's NMA session

>>5135311
It doesn't. I don't know what that retard finds in these threads, no one especially cares about replying to him. If he actually worked instead of shitposting 24/7 he'd have gotten good by now. If he shitposted in a more active thread he'd have at least gotten more (you)s.

>>5135312
Cute, reminds me of Cave Story. Mouth looks bit strange though.

>>5135275
>>5135283
>>5135301
It's from how to draw people.
https://files.catbox.moe/h3elaa.pdf

why should I draw if I can play Counter Strike: Global Offensive ?

>>5135348
why do you think you should draw?

>>5135351
I want to make something for myself. I want to prove to myself that I can do anything if I put my mind to it. But vidya are more fun. So why should I draw?

>>5135254
If this was some sort of test, we can both see the same mistakes and shortcomings, wrote them down.
Still stuck on the same issue, lack of 3D, there's some development in outlines but that's not all, things line up with the reference, mostly.
>>5135311
>>5135332
I might be stuck in this meatbag body but don't think for a single second our minds work the same way, whatever you try, ain't working so I'm saving you some time.
I'll post because I want to, the faster I improve and solve all the issues the faster I'm out of here.

>>5135323
>>5134001

>>5135323
>>5135384
Same Anon?

>>5135387
what made you want to avatarfag

>>5135384
>>5135387
Yeah. Huh, weird that I'm seeing my drawings being posted by someone else.

>>5135345
Thanks for clarifying. Both are useful to me.

>>5135401
It's about to become common, YOUR PROGRESS
HOW? WHAT'S THE REASON? You have talent yet how?
Attempts at reverse engineering your talent have been
FRUITLESS

>>5135366
idk. maybe you should put your mind towards something else like Counter-Strike: Global Offensive .

Those drawings were done by copying exactly what Vilppu did in his livestream, they aren't MY figure drawings per se, they're copies. (Not traces)

>>5135401
>>5135423

>>5135300
Yeah, Loomis doesn't work on spiders for some reason.
Also you got the angle wrong, we're seeing it from way lower than what you draw

>>5135423
HOw long have you been drawing for? TOTAL TIME? Total resources used?

>>5135423
Lies, these are all original, otherwise you wouldn't be claiming them as your own, 3 weeks of progress looks like this for the talented?

>>5135425
>>5135438
even if he was trying to copy, he still drew it. it's not like he took a screenshot of vilppus drawings and traced it, still had to put some work in hence "my drawing"

>>5135427
yeah im really bad getting the angle right. nice drawing.

Piece of advice for begs: forget about le loomis construction methods and grab an anatomy book first.

Opinions?

>>5135300
I'm beg too, nonetheless I hope you can get some use of it:
Try to see simple geometric shapes, straight lines, spheres, cubes, and put it into perspective.
Try to find symmetries you can apply in perspective. Don't worry about staying true to the reference, noone will spot mistakes with such animals people rarely see, just focus on construction.
Once there, the fun, relaxing part begins with texture, details and varying line thickness. Thicker lines for objects in the front and to seperate major shapes.

>>5135526
wrong
you don't need to remember all the body parts in autistic detail just to draw the body, its right in fucking front of you

>>5135472
Here, I tried outlining what looked like the main shapes, maybe that'll help. Or just look up biology textbooks for general spider anatomy like how we do for hands.

>>5135312
Alright, finished to render the character but it's still a wip since the background and the ambient lighting still have to be made. Any opinions and suggestions? This is my first proper painting

Can I get some critique bros? 2 minutes each.

You guys ever draw stuff, look at it then laugh because of had bad it is? Fun stuff

>>5135569
>just look up biology textbooks for general spider anatomy bro

this board only knows extremes...

>>5135601
can someone rec me a book on drawing spider anatomy?

>>5135620
no, spiders are spooky

>>5135584
Nice talent bitch

>>5135599
yeah and that's a gmi mentality. draw something bad, have fun, move on to the next thing.

>>5135584
the thing that strikes me is that all these look the same, even though some of these poses should be harder than others. so either reduce the time or try to add more detailed anatomy. the point is to spend those 2 mins to the best of your abilities.

>>5135599
All the time. the only times I don't laugh are when I'm doing it for someone else, like one of my friends who keeps selling my paintings to hipsters while pretending I'm a charity case to jack up prices, but otherwise my portfolio is 60% shitposts and 40 fundies

How the fuck do you paint drapery

>>5135691
Apparently it works because I just drew something again in Less time that looks slightly (slightly) better. Feels good
>>5135721
Is this the key to success?

crit pls

>>5135725
with great difficulty, and probably a shitload of filters on digital to blend the half-tones better.

>>5135725
now try typing that into google

Mewtwo has a surprisingly bad grab range

>>5135760
the fuck are you talking about

I require improvement, I want all your sources and proven methods

>>5135749
Would be good if your line work wasn’t absolute dogshit, how can you have such a disconnect between your skill level as far as constructing a character but with line work like a 5 year old? Did you trace this? Serious question like I don’t give a shit you’re an anonymous stranger. If not then just practice some clean lines for fucks sake

>>5135760
lmao

>>5135753
that into google

>>5135760
>what average icfagggot does instead of drawing

>>5135762
>>5135771
>>5135765
He deserves melee marth grab range

I have a copy of FWAP, Drawing On the Right Side of the Brain, and You Can Draw in 30 Days. Been practising fundamentals in Drawabox while I waited for them to arrive.
I plan on going through all of them, but which one is best for an absolute retard beginner?

>>5135763
I dunno, I just pick up books, read them back to back, redraw about half the examples to figure it out, and somehow after a few months regular drawings look less like shit.

>>5135781
5 months already
No improvement
>>5135668

>>5135764
redline it please?

>>5135768
i'll fuck you up, kid

>>5135764
>>5135796
what makes it look traced?

>>5135805
anon probably thinks it looks traced because your linework looks suspicious

>>5135749
Arms
The arms
The rest is okish

>>5135749
>>5135824
this

>>5135749
The pose looks a little forced. Try utilising foreshortening and putting the arms in a front view learning back position instead , if that makes sense

>>5135813
what do you mean by suspicious? how do I fix? i spent way more time on the lines than I normally do (pic rel is my past 2 finished drawings) and I don't like these lines either but I dunno how to fix them

>>5135848
lol thanks
do you think using thinner lines like you did is a good idea?

>>5135537
There are some perspective issues but it’s Comfy, I like it

>>5135542
>>5135569
you guys are great. thanks

>>5135776
Fun with a pencil is mostly a meme. Loomis is right and his method makes a lot of sense but he's shit at explaining it, that book is for the kind of people who draw all the time and can figure it out on their own from what he tells them.
One chapter you're doing cartoons while he tells you to just have fun, the next you get hit with realistic face construction methods and have to figure out this is the exact same thing, and at this point you should just read his other books who explain it more in depth.

Read a few chapters, do the blooks, and go practice with Hampton, it's basically the same thing with pretty colors and more steps so you won't fuck up so bad if you're an absolute /beg/.

I'd shill the big /ic/ mega but apparently they took it down, here's my own stash if you want some free PDFs instead of paying 40$ for each book, or at least check what's in them before : https://mega.nz/folder/BpgDXaLK#Ti5MwgtW5_pOVUwogQZnpw..

Maybe they uploaded it somewhere else but I'm going to sleep, try asking around, they had way better stuff than I do

I know it's super beg/rough but how do I connect the shoulder to the torso? it looks really off no matter how I seem to do it
Also what is this kind of pose called where your chest is out and hand on hips? can't find any reference

>>5135906
Thank you fren. You're the best.

can anyone help me work out the perspective issue I have, the boots/legs just look wrong no matter what I do

>>5134856
It's a good exercise, I'd like to see you draw bigger so you can put in a little bit more of detail/depth.
I would advice you to put more attention to your reference since some of the shapes in the face are a lot more different, even the expression is different and please don't draw individual teeth, draw them as a unit/block.

current progress, more skulls, attempting extreme angles, mentally taxing

>>5136003
where do you look for skull references?

>>5136039
imagination, probably sketchfab

>>5135914

>>5136061
o shit thanks anon, is there somewhere with a collection of these

>>5136003
My goal is to be able to recall the construction from memory so these are mostly from imagination, when I'm having trouble I use this sketchfab model:

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/skull-b1a3d251c79440e9800951fb3bdb4c99

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>>5136074
archives, I hope you arent too dumb to not find it

>>5136039
My goal is to be able to recall the construction from memory so these are mostly from imagination, when I'm having trouble I use this sketchfab model:

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/skull-b1a3d251c79440e9800951fb3bdb4c99

>Got used as an example of /beg/ last thread
Alright I'm going all out on this one

>>5135989

the proportions are fucked, idk what angle you were going with the rigght leg it seems like the one in the middle but the thight would be in a different angle to work, and the perspective is off not sure if this is a view from below or above cus if ewere the later her body is in front view, and if it were a front view pic she has a long torso since her hip is tilted enough to show her pucci wich also makes her long calve wrong(right), did you tried to make the right leg not as bended as the left? they are pointing out at the same angle but their calves are going everywere

>>5136150
I was going for the below view? That's why her right leg/foot looks like that but my sense of depth/perception fucking sucks I guess. Thanks for the help anon

>>5136085
thanks anon, and good luck with that

>>5134076
really cute

>>5136145
Probably clean up your lines. Also alphamon is based

what went wrong

>>5136191
fuck i forgot to resize

>>5136186
yeah posted it for the composition, I'm now re doing that lineart.
Also I discovered I can use the fill tool on another layer and it still fills the characters, very nice.

why doesn't it look quite right?

>>5136198
cause the pose is awkward, who stands like that?

I never used social media but I'd love to follow some big names, any tips on some most follow artists on twitter?

>>5133551
Because of the thicc lines it makes it seem somewhat stiff, but the gesture is very nice and thanks to the sleeves for example I can really feel the force behind that kick. Keep it up.

>>5136210
idk what kinda art you like but find a good artist and look through who they follow and who they retweet

here's an artist I like: https://twitter.com/Masaaki013

>>5136198
>bad anatomy
>bad composition
>no value structure
>signature
did you even bother to use reference?

What's the benefit of buying and having the physical copy of an art book, rather than just having it as a PDF? I can download most books for free but money isn't really the issue, I just wonder if having some of the actual books will make me learn faster as dumb as it sounds in hindsight.

>>5136421
It might make you care more about it. There is meaning on it not having any real meaning. Just like I can play Yu-Gi-Oh! online but I cherish buying the cards and collecting them in a box and playing with them all alone in my room instead of having fancy online duels, or how I have a few hundred downloaded videogames BUT I care more about playing the ones I physically bought.

Without love it cannot be seen.
Maybe if you have that art book, you'll see it.
Or maybe not, try applying yourself but it can certainly boost your mental state (and you'll at least try to make your investment pay off)

>>5136421
For me:
Physical copy - for studying away from home and reading in bed (easier on the eyes). Plus I like the feeling of ownership I get from having the actual book.
PDF - for printing specific pages needed for in-depth study and backup just in case I lose my book collection in some tragic accident.

What

what do you think about this painting?

Thoughts, so far?

>>5136487
The skin tones are all off. You need to use more than one color, red/pink being one of them. Look at real skin. She looks like she’s made of mud. Good effort though.

>>5136463
Giving up for the night.

>>5135369
>Every your post and reply to it is hidden.
Now I can finally enjoy peace. So, if you are bored of schizo, just hide his whining.
Comfy af.

>>5136191
>Hive city?

>>5136578
Was huffing paint while pregnant a huge fad 15 years ago? Because I swear every single zoomer on this board is a raging schizo.

Picrel: Freehand perspective/construction exercise. I'm having trouble projecting 2D shapes onto 3D planes (like the circles on the sides of some of the cubes) and also problems with form. Any feedback is welcome.

>>5136586
>Freehand
>See traces and VP's
And post hidden, not caring. I don't whine and attention brag all over the place, you do.

>>5136513
she's juicy

>>5135569
nice VATS btw

>>5136648
VATS style thread would be cool. People drawing planes and muscle tracings etc like VATS

>>5135797
ok sweaty you just effed with the wrong guy

>>5135868
This is the firs guy who said it. The scratch ones of your lines and complete lack of understanding of line weight or remotely cleaned up lines doesn’t align with where your construction skills are. If your drawing skills were the same as your line work the drawing should be much much worse which leads me to question whether it’s traced from somewhere

>>5136696
*the scratchiness of your lines

>>5136598
Thanks?

I'm doing vilpu's drawing manual and the videos are too long. Can i do them in chunks like an hour a day? Or is that not recommended?

Next step? How off is it?

>>5136769
You HAVE to do all of them in one sitting. Have some dedication.

could I get some advice on the body in general? especially the feet placement and hands? I'm not sure where to go from here and am having trouble even with references
thanks in advance guys!

>>5136191
LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND

what's a good pen for drawing things like this?

>>5136962
maybe the one in the picture

>>5136970
what pens are they?

>>5136580
yes, hive city

>>5136962
>>5136971
It says right there in the image lmao.
unia gel pen and sakura pens

i drew a miata haha

>>5137081
thank you

>>5133252
hello how do i shade guns and metal in general ? and what brush am i supose to use, i have only been using airbrush for all my drawings and i was recently told im not supose to do that

Does it even count as practice if I spend all day just drawing boxes and cylinders?

i feel like i made him too stiff

Genuine question.
Why should I construct a face when I can just use my own as a reference?

Loomis doesn't bring up gesture because his book was released before gesture became mainstream thanks to Nicholades. The mannequin IS still gesture related, it's just more emphasis on construction.

>>5137220
Construction is not an end in itself, it's a way for you to better understand your references.

>>5137203
yes. you could try applying that study to something more meaningful by doing this
https://youtu.be/r_ZB90XqI9E?t=432

Made a new thread
>>5137308

>>5133273
It's only bad when it happens because you're not sure which line is better, like in his shoulder. The hair has more of a "gesture" feel, so it's good

>>5133327
The cube is too soft, the sphere lacks a core shadow. Cylinder is just good, keep it up anon!