/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5110483
Nah, I've been drawing every day for three years.
If you failed that's on you buddy.

I started my New Years resolution during quarantine when I had plenty of free time.

>open e-mail
>"hello Anon I've seen your works on instagram and i'd like to offer you a full-time job"
>reply asking for details
>$1500 monthly salary
Yes I understand that I am from a third world country and it's cheaper to hire me than a local but I still value my time at more than ~$70 a day?? That wasn't the deal breaker though. They requested a 1 hour recording of my screen while working and me talking about myself. Fuck right off, I hope this isn't common...

i hate vtubers and vtuber fans

>>5111114
Female detected.

>>5111114
based roastie

>>5111114
keyed
>>5111115
>>5111128
braindead coomers

>>5111133
forced memes are for niggers

>>5111133
if you're cooming to a vtuber you're doing it wrong

>>5111115
>>5111128
i'm proud of my dick, tyvm

>>5111149
based no-op mtf

I have nothing to vent about! So happi!

>>5111155
i don't even know what that means, but ty

>>5111174
some male to female transsexuals have not had an operation yet leaving them still with a penis
its based

Good news, got vaccine. Bad news, I am the type of person who has a reaction to everything. Better news, my reaction this time hasn’t been that bad, just really tired and I’m hoping I can sleep it off and be fine tomorrow. There’s definitely no drawing happening tonight. I’m still trying to force myself to at least brush my teeth before passing out again here.

>>5111185
if you end up with autism just know youre in good company, anon

>>5111194
That’s my secret. I was already autistic.

Once again I didn't draw today

im gonna coom

>>5111165
the most based of retards.

>>5110483
>You already failed your New Years resolution, huh anon?
"Huh lol poot I'm an edgy American"

>>5110483
I failed to make a new year resolution

>>5110483
>Broke my shoulder on new years morning
guess I'm ngmi this year either

I just hit a digital artblock, I'm so fucking indecisive over the kinds of brushes I want to use and the way I want to color.

>>5110483
I quit posting on ic

>>5111546
*unblocks your path*

>>5111560
based ballpoint poster

>>5111106
what county?

My art dream is to be able to paint like Norman Rockwell but I want to paint the opposite mood. Instead of dreamy days of yore, it would be bleak modern moments. Things like the subject sobbing in a mall because she just opened Facebook on her phone and saw her best friend just died, surrounded by people who don’t care. It’s super kitsch and I suck at painting, so I guess this project of mine will live on forever in my sketchbook while I put out another sexy Nezuko drawing instead.

>>5111106
Bro give me that job. I knew recording myself daily would pay off at some point.

>>5111560
B A S E D

>>5111560
But I HAVE been drawing traditionally!

>>5110483
No.
But you surely did.

Going-deafanon back to tirelessly bitch yet again.
Shits been progressing faster than expected, but I've submissively come to terms with it.
Recently been informed that I won't qualify for financial aid, even after I become fully deaf.
So I'm stuck in this weird financial position; I can't get a a job because I'm disabled yet I'm not considered disabled enough to get a stipend
I still have my savings but no income.

I'm hoping art pulls through, and I can earn money from commissions while living with my parents.
It just sucks knowing I'll never be able to be financially independent.
>>5111598
Watts is really good at teaching painting if you're interested
>>5111165
gif reminded me of a Barong or Rangda

>>5110483
Nope, I bought a new tablet and been having fun with it all day today, still getting used to it
And have already lost a kilo since NYE
Im having a great time

I'm a dumbass. I put my SSN in an application and im now reading reviews that it might be a scam. Will services like lifelock help me out here?

Surprisingly I've kept mine, mostly because it's vague as shit
Draw and exercise more and I've done both more so far

>>5110483
>blog starts gaining the slightest amount of traction
>suddendly start feeling like I'm gonna have to adopt standards which my own mind made up
>desire to draw and post anything takes a nosedive
Sure sucks being a mentally ill fag with a huge fear of commitment.

>>5110483
>You already failed your New Years resolution, huh anon?
Nah, i decided that starting january 2 i'd post something everyday and haven't failed yet
I was in a bad habit of only drawing commissions and client work, these are only personal drawings that i'm doing
And honestly i'm pretty happy with it, one of my drawings kinda exploded and i already made more than i would've made if it was a commission

>>5110483
I didn't set any new year resolutions for myself because I knew I wouldn't follow through with them

>>5111560
Corvina is better and costs the same or even cheaper.

i'm so tired

>render hentai picture
>dont like the colors
>redo it and realize the first one had the best render and looked more realistic

>>5111856
No, grandma. Lifelock doesn’t do shit to begin with, let alone after you fell for a scam. First, make yourself a Credit Karma account if you haven’t done so already. This will help you monitor any activity on your credit like new accounts, loans, etc. Then call your bank (or go in if you can) and let them know what happened so they can do what they need to to keep your account secure. You will also want to do a credit freeze with all the relevant credit agencies (it’s only 4) to prevent any accounts being opened up.

Good luck, don’t beat yourself up over one fuck up, and stay calm.

>>5111106

Its a common scam, dont fall for it.
Genuinely not crabbing here. They pull this shit on Artstation, too. Here's stories of people they've tried to scam:
https:// old. reddit.com/r/artstation/comments/jo4d75/scam_email_through_artstation/

(yes, its le reddit, but who the fuck cares at this point)

>>5111508
I only wish you happiiness too <3

>>5112626
>phony

>>5112544
I got IDShield this morning and it monitors 4 agencies I think, is that okay? I just need to set up the credit freeze.

>>5112635

Now THIS is crabbing!

>>5112626
>I went through with everything and they sent me the money for the equipment a sum of 4,800 dollars, I realized something was fishy when they told me to go to a cryptocurrency website to buy bitcoin for the equipment
wait, what’s the scam? they send you money and then you buy crypto? wut

>>5112634
love this gif
it's mesmerizing

please how do I start

>>5112626
I don't see anything conclusive from that thread
original poster just claimed it was a scam because he was asked to download telegram. the fuck
didn't find the bitcoin part

I made an account just to post coom shit because my regular sfw stuff isn't getting any engagement. I feel like I failed.

>>5112653
put on a vilppu video or a fzd design cinema on the background and start drawing.

>>5112653
Brent Eviston.

>>5112404
why dont you save all versions dummy

I just found out Andrew Hou's course was removed from schoolism. Wtf why, that was one of the best courses there. Bobby's running his organization into the ground...

Fuck you CaptainKirb
Fuck you CaptainKirb
Fuck you CaptainKirb
Fuck you CaptainKirb
Fuck you CaptainKirb
Fuck that stupid pedo you should be fucking cancelled you mentally ill pedophile

>You have to try to recreate a picture using 4 values or less
>Attempt it multiple times
>Be terrible at it
What can I do to overcome terminal shittyness? discipline and hard work isn't doing it

I’m sucking at drawing things other than anime girls but I’m now realizing going through my past years folders that I it’s the first time in my life drawing a tank or drawing a mech and I barely if ever drew things. I’m having fun though.

>can't focus on figure drawing cause the model is to hot

>exhausted from drawing 8 hours in a row
>open up an art stream
>dude starts making eyes in the middle of the page
>head, tits, hair...
>chat: do you not use construction?
>artist: no construction makes my head go pepega.
>finishes entire sketch + lineart and values in less than 1 hour.
>chat: wait, are you only using one layer?
>artist yeah.
>plops down huge blocks of color and then just smudges it around with water tool.
>somehow looks great, going against everything i've learned.
>doesn't do any of his lines in "one confident stroke" as you're always told to do.
>still looks good
>chat: how old are you?
>artist: 18
i should probably just kill myself, a lot younger than me, doing everything the opposite of how i'm taught by everyone on here (and in books) yet looking 10x better in a third of the time.

not going to mention artist name because i'm not shill. just needed vent to avoid rope.

I'm not going to draw today either

>>5113415
This is the ultimate blackpill, a huge amount of the "you're supposed to..." "proper technique is..." is actually crabbing. If you watch any artist who's made it on Twitter or Pixiv not a single one of them draws like an art instructor would.

>>5111165
Same, venting is self-crabbing. People fill their head with bad shit and it keeps happening to them.

>>5113450
speak for yourself bro i vent to let those thoughs OUT of my head. then i move on with my day.
bottling up is shitty, desu.

>>5110483
Because of my back pain and lack of proper sleep it's garder for to focus now,as it makes me more tensed.
But I have to build my portfolio for the next 3 month,after that I was supposed to grind some fundies for 3 month.Now I may have to reset my schedule.

>>5113452
maybe your problem is getting those thoughts in your head in the first place.

>>5113460
Does Gon get his nen back???

had the day off from work today and instead of practice fundies like i said i was going to do in just napped and watch youtube videos all day...

>>5113482
1 day of fundies wasn't gonna do you anything anyways :/

>>5113483
>>5113482
practice smaller fundies

>>5113486
Like what?

>>5112646
It is the modern day Nigerian prince scam. There was no $4800. It bounces and they get back their $4800 plus $4800 from you plus you probably bought crypto from them.

>>5113515
draw small boxes.

I'm lonely and I love it.

Whenever I start expecting a certain level of quality in my work, it takes a nose dive and I don't feel like drawing. When I don't expect anything, I have more fun. How do I remove all of my expectations?

Sometimes I wonder if drawing is really for me— I feel as though I don't really have much to say, nor a story to tell. It seems like those who are really good at drawing do so because they wish to convey something, but I just want to draw to draw, maybe make some cool shit. Then again, this is probably my brain trying to get me to be lazy, so in a way, fuck that thought. Always gets so hard finishing stuff, with the expectations and stuff. Ah well.

>>5113515
boxes in perspective, shading spheres, line exercises

>>5113539
you answered your first question yourself. just do it and quit being a bitch.

>>5113415
Just do whatever works for you and still looks good. Don't worry about what you were taught unless it's actually bringing you noticeable improvement

>>5113415
Bruh all of those rules you learn are really just a crutch to have things click faster. It is possible to learn art without learning those formal techniques, but it's the longer way around. If this guy was only 18, I'm guessing they've just been drawing since they were a kid and just really fucking liked drawing so they learned how to do shit their own way. Of course someone like that is going to be a god, it's like how I touch type on average 140wpm and use a blank keyboard Das Ultimate. People marvel at it and can't understand, but the fact is that I taught myself how to type the proper way during grade school, and have just been typing ever since.

There are many, many people like that with drawing or other skills. Where they figured stuff out early on, then later to other people it looks like magic, when they're not even really thinking about it because it's second nature. Learning all those formal rules is for those of us who didn't grow up like this, and want a way to get to that level without needing years of seeing what works.

>>5113539
Learn to see the small improvements in your work rather than judging a picture on one thing. That way you're never really disappointed. Another way to look at it and it's a great mantra: "I love making a bad drawing, because it brings me that much closer to a good drawing. The more bad drawings I do, the closer I get to making better drawings and the ratio of bad drawings goes down." Maybe you don't like the pose, but you notice that your line weight is looking better! Maybe you fucked up a proportion, but you notice that you got the face looking great, and thinking "holy shit I'm getting better"

This is advice for life too. You need to look at the small victories to carry you through.

>been at this for four years
>mediocre art gains
>have gained a small following in that time
> kids that have followed me for years suddenly become much better than me and gain 5 times the following in one tenth the time
I've been left behind bros, I'm NGMI

Haven’t been able to draw for the past few days because I have had this horrible pain on my hips like directly under my stomach. I finally looked it up today and I just got a bunch of stuff involving ovaries. I am a man. I knew that chocolate onions milk was gonna fuck me up one day. But for real, anyone had this happen? The top result was that I am about to start my period, so as you can guess, I am a little scared.

Don't kill yourself.

>>5113686
So what happens when you are unlimited source of failure when it comes to art defying all logic and common sense about what we know about learning and the 10k hour rule?

>>5112626
>You will purchase the materials from our accredited software vendor.
>The vendor will cover for the shipping cost and we do this as a test of trust/ability to follow instructions, as well as so you can know the vendor personally for future purposes.
lmao

>Found hands surprisingly easy despite what everyone says about it
>Can't do hair to save my life
im dying

when i sit and draw the same thing over and over 9000 times and it stilll doesnt look right, i wonder what im doing with my life and if its going to go anywhere.

It is important to measure ourselves, but not to compare.
Do not worry about being strong, but about feeling stronger everyday.

>>5113479
yeah

>>5113880
>>5113569

I still didn’t get my stimulus and don’t think I will because the irs page says they can’t “find my info”. I got my first round, why the fuck can’t you find my info? Just send me a check then if it’s an error on your site.

Funny when you owe these traitors money they go above and beyond, but when they owe you money it’s dangling a piece of cheese on a stick with the op covered in shit and no string for you to have a slight edge in retrieving it. Fuck these people.

what does it feels like to be able to draw good?

>get offer for a well paying temp job to do in the next 3-6 months
>still not a good artist with no following
>just feel to lazy to do anything
I just want to have the time to get good

>>5114448
Most good artists I know either stopped caring when they plateaued or are mentally fucked up

>>5114141
>Funny when you owe these traitors money they go above and beyond, but when they owe you money it’s dangling a piece of cheese on a stick with the op covered in shit and no string for you to have a slight edge in retrieving it. Fuck these people.
I hate these gay Jewish niggers

>>5114458
How possible is it to get good while working full time?

My drawings always look off and I hate it. I just wish I could draw something that looks nice.

>>5114520
Give up any luxuries that take up free time like watching TV, having a go, gaming, smoking weed, drinking, hanging out with friends etc. Spend literally all of your free time purposefully and diligently, always thinking about what your current weaknesses are in art at work and getting right to it once you get home. You essentially have to live your life like you have two full time jobs.

>>5111115
back in my day we didn't need parasocial relationships to experience videogames.

whippersnappers

>>5113857
you should be proud of him, anon

>Mfw clearing a layer in photoshop just adds white over the canvas instead of deleting the strokes on the layer

>>5114520
I do it. You don’t have to go this far >>5114555 but he’s definitely on the right track. Stop doing shit that isn’t productive. Don’t veg out and watch TV all day. Draw, fool! Draw with a purpose when you can and at least try to get some doodles done at work (lunch break if you’re having to go in, much easier if you’re WFH). I also cut back on sleeping to about six hours a night and do yoga for an hour after I wake up, which sounds dumb but I swear it really improves your mood for the rest of the day. Also, you can practice drawing even without drawing. Observe, trace shapes with your eyes, feel the form, IMAGINE. Don’t forget to daydream. All the technical skills in the world won’t save you if you have nothing worth perfecting.

>>5114588
I try to do that but I feel I come with to many instances where my mind feels like mush

>>5111225
kek

>>5111672
i hope you can still live a fulfilling life. going deaf seems like one of the scariest things. Are you learning asl and stuff?

>>5112404
trust me, the other one was shit too!

>draw in my opinion one of the best things I've done to date
>Half as many likes as my usual average
>No new followers, lose two in fact


I'm trying not to focus on it but still reeeee

>>5114648
try looking up the relative popularity of your favourite works by your favourite authors. they're inevitably going to be among the most obscure things they've ever written. mass appeal =/= quality.

>>5114712
It's a good point, and I'm also trying to remind myself that other people won't see what I'm seeing in it (in terms of improvements). They'll just see if it's a character they like or not.

i don't know what i want to do with my life
i know art needs to be involved in it in some way, but thats just not realistic for it to be a career

>>5112626
>https:// old. reddit.com/r/artstation/comments/jo4d75/scam_email_through_artstation/
I work at a different sector. It was a company creating and selling stock illustration. The money though... It made me feel depressed. Do people look at my work and think this is how much I make from it? Or do they think I make no money at all? Maybe I'm overthinking it.

>>5114766
Nah, these scams are just based out of shithole countries where you can live like a king for like $500 a month. That was their idea of an offer you can’t refuse.

I wonder if I'll draw today

>>5110483
>starting to do digital art
>every knowledge about draftmanship has been reseted

This is a strange feeling,but it also has to do with the fact that my version of Photoshop doesen't à tllow me To rotate the canevas in a "manual" way (I have to enter the angle in the settings).

That being said,I would like to use that tool to change my style a bit,but those first steps hard to do for my moral.But I guess I just have to practice now.

>>5111672
You can do it, deafanon. I believe in you.

>artists I follow on twitter start posting about politics

>>5115127
yep. this is the natural state of westernfags on that site. if you are new to the community, expect this *every* *single* happening

>>5113415
Post name you fucking faggot. I need a good dose of rage for fuel.

Got DAMN, why didnt someone warn me that translating a book takes such a long time?
It's been 2 days and I only have 13 pages of this Japanese Loomis book done. I probably wont be done with this thing for at least a month and he has two other books.
FFFFFfff

I wonder if I'll ever want to draw again. Seems I won't draw today either.

>>5115320
that is a very sad thing to read

>>5115325
a real tragedy

how do you stop yourself from breaking things out of anger when you draw and see how shit it is

>>5113415
Find what works for you and don't worry about the better person. There's always someone better than you but they won't ever draw what you want to be drawn.

>>5110483
I lost my drive to draw, i don't care anymore so i'm not angry but i spent quite the money on pencils and sketch books

>>5115320
Action comes before motivation. Let go of your fears and just doodle stuff

Last year an anon asked here on /ic/ something about social media. At the end of the post there was that "t.aspie" thing.
I didn't knew what it was and answered them like if they were some retard, for shitpost purpose. When I later looked at the aspie definition I was like "Oh no." and felt like complete shit.
Every now and then I still think about it and I wonder if that anon took my comment to their heart. I am really sorry about what I said, but there is no way to apologize now. I was the retard.

I know it gets hate around here, but I actually like drawing noses on anime girls.

(Pic related but not my art, its Nico Robin from One Piece)

I have realized that I don't actually enjoy drawing, I just want to be good at it.
I am the same way about every other 'interest' i have. I want to be good at these things but I have to force myself to actually do them.

The few things that I actually enjoy doing are worthless consooming.

>>5115716
I don't know you personally, so you may be right, but are you really sure you don't like drawing *per se*? How long have you been drawing for? How often do you draw? What things do you draw? How much do you draw things you want to be good at drawing and how much things you don't really care about? Do you mainly focus on how your drawings look vs how the reference (if you use references) or image in your head looks? Do you take time to notice what looks (per se or relatively) good in your drawings? or do you only focus on what looks bad? When you focus on the bad qualities of your drawings, to the extent that you do, how does it make you feel? Do you become angry? Are you indifferent? Are you happy (because, hey, at least you're working on your craft)?

I know it's a lot of questions, and again I don't ask them because I necessarily think you're wrong about yourself, I just pose them because maybe if you were to change certain things about how you draw, what you draw, and your relationship with drawing in general you would find that you *do* enjoy it.

I bought a cintiq about a year and a half ago but after being forced to revert to my old laptop-with-intuos-balanced-on-the-keyboard setup I realized that it's the only method of working that I'm actually comfortable with.

I like being able to draw directly on the display but the cintiq's pen feedback is just insanely stiff for some reason. Even when I set my pressure curve to maximum softness it feels like I have to press super hard to get the lines I normally get using the intuos, it feels absolutely disgusting

On top of that, since I'm used to drawing on a flat surface near my lap, trying to draw on a tilted surface up on my desk absolutely kills my hand/wrist for some reason. If I adjust the cintiq to lie flat so it's easier to draw on I'd just kill my neck looking down at it for hours. There's just no way of interfacing with this thing comfortably and it pisses me off so much. How can an expensive piece of modern hardware feel so much worse than a shitty old laptop and a shitty second-hand screenless tablet from almost a decade ago

>>5115729
I genuinely hope you're right.
I am going to sleep for now.

I keep staying up too late (it's almost 3:30 AM here and this is still a tame hour for me) because I just want to DRAW. I still have to wake up at 9 for work though, and honestly thank goodness I'm working from home so I can just roll out of bed, but I think this whole lack of sleep thing is what's been making me feel sick lately. I can't help it, though. I just want to draw.

It seems like the only thing i can think about when drawing was how many times i fucked up today, or that one minor mistake from 5 years ago. It's like endless supercut of all my failures. Nothing positive. I don't know why I'm so hyper critical of myself.

>>5115798
are you like that outside of drawing too?

>>5115798
I don't know how to help, but I'm the same way.

>>5115808
Yes. When i'm playing games mostly. Happens sometimes when i'm about to sleep as well

>>5115823
Just accept that you suck and keep going. Many artist are never happy with their work. Now and then I have a laugh at my own stuff and how awful it turns out. You may never be satisfied with what you make, but you will improve.

>have two really important character designs for the game I'm working on
>absolutely knocked it out of the park with the first one, really happy with it
>second one is really annoying me, not coming together
>she's supposed to be mostly plain-looking but I keep not being satisfied because she's the main character and I really want her to stand out somehow
>not sure how to proceed, everything is either too fashionable or too plain and they don't mesh well
I doubt that anyone has tips for times like this but advice is welcome I guess. And no I won't post my work sorry.

I just wanna draw all day but there is "more important" life shit I gotta do constantly

>>5110483
been drawing 4 hours everyday and watching columbo since 26th dec. actually doesnt feel like an insurmountable task or a chore, im just vibing
hard part is forcing myself to do 30 minutes of gesture, but im hanging in there

i really want to get good for real this time
im sick of watching all my friends pass me
all my fundi's are learned i just really need to take the next step and i dont know how
im really bad at growing an audience, is it really just porn?
porn and posting at the same time once a week????

>>5115940
Look at Persona games. Mc is a fairly bland nobody, but still have something distinct about them - white hair, blue hair, cool eyeglasses, a neater suit, stuff like that. Even someone plain-looking isn't without personality. How is it expressed through the design?

I will never be able to mention my lewd art to anyone outside of the internet. I was talking to my brother and offhandedly mentioned something about censorship of anime characters and skirts and he immediately tried to bully me about me wanting to fuck fictional characters. So i guess ill be drawing in secret forever. Why are normies like this? Why can't they accept things that are different? I'm afraid to make any irl friends because everyone is so damn judgmental.

I can’t finish any art pieces I start. Midway through I realize my limits and give up to study or start something new.

>>5116011
>growing an audience
That's pretty vague, define your goals more so you know how to proceed. How many followers is enough for you, a couple? A hundred? Thousands? Do you want to 'retain' them in the long run?(i.e. should you stop posting for a time or start posting something diferent for a while they'll still give a shit about you) Do you want the growth to be as quick as possible or can it be slow? Do you want your audience to interact with you or be silent apart from liking your posts? Must part of them have interest in either commissioning you or giving you money some other way?
Really just start making and answeing questions like these and you'll know how to follow. Porn isnt the only way of growing an audience, its just the one that best fullfills the average goals of d/ic/ks when they talk about wanting to grow a following(quick growth, big number of followers and audience willing to pay for the art)

>>5116064
lmao virgin

>>5116172
>"noooo you can't just be a virgin!"

>>5115798
I used to have an issue with intrusive thoughts too. I tried to change my way of thinking about it though, like being glad I learned a lesson from it and that's all. Sounds stupid, but practicing gratitude has helped me change my mindset a lot. I still have days where I hate myself and my drawings, but far less of them

>>5115817
i really like this picture, i wish i had someone to look at me this way

This is it.
This is the year I learn how to render.
Even if the journey is long I'll make it to where I want to be.

>>5116064
The keyword here is anime characters. In my experience almost everyone thinks its pretty cool if you can draw sexy realistic women. However if you're drawing poorly drawn anime girls then its pretty hilarious

>>5116140
A finished piece isn’t this arbitrary thing you’ve been led to believe by art you like
It can be when the emotion you wanted to capture is made
It can be when you successfully study that specific area and subject you wanted
Finished doesn’t just mean fully rendered

>>5115380
Start small
Start with drawing lines that convey emotions, draw calm lines
Practice drawing light to control your adhd

>>5115716
I get that feeling, too.
It feels like drawing's just the means to the end - I love worldbuilding and coming up with designs and function and ideas, but I don't have any particular love for the physical act of drawing. I don't hate it, either, but I don't love it to the point of drawing regularly enough to attain my goal.
Been thinking of just making my peace with it and toughing it through for the eventual payoff, but will that really be a good idea?

>>5116189
>the year I learn how to render. Im leagues above you and I can tell you that M A Y B E this is the year I get to learn to render properly. sure I can get away with it, But there is much to learn. Makesure your form and perspective come first. Only then will you be able to render the basic form and choose the correct values.

>>5116189
>the year I learn how to render.

I'm leagues above you and I can tell you that M A Y B E this is the year I get to learn to render properly. sure I can get away with it, But there is much to learn. Makesure your form and perspective come first. Only then will you be able to render the basic form and choose the correct values.

>>5110483
I think that a person attaching anti-semitism or any other kind of prejudice to their interpretation or observation of art takes away from their ability to understand what they’re looking at and only fuels the creation of more art in response to this prejudice. On top of this, it looks to me like it’s all just a way for people to absolve themselves of responsibility for their shortcomings by turning a group of people into a big, powerful enemy whose existence serves to justify their weaknesses.
I usually only lurk here, but god damn am I tired of seeing it. I know that this is 4chan, and I know that everyone can have different opinions on what constitutes good art, but there’s so much ideological pollution that it becomes a question of not what makes a work of art “good,” but what differentiates critique from criticism from bitching and moaning.

>>5116295
What is 'proper rendering' mean to you?

>>5116295
Pyw

>start drawing idea that seemed really stupid
>actually alright on paper
>start drawing idea that seemed pretty good in my head
>not that good on paper

>>5112393
I'm a poor Brazilian and BICs are cheaper than oxygen, not an argument.

>>5111106
>I am from a thirld world country
Highly doubt it, that salary is enough for a small family to keep an upper middle class livelihood in my country.

>>5115276
godspeed anon!!

>>5116791

T-thanks, anon! I'm gonna try to do 5 more pages today.

>Draw Watson.
>Her like brings in 50 people.
>Post may may of Watson.
>It's a free 3,000 that lasts for more than a week but seemingly no one is interested in clicking profiles and seeing that this came from someone who draws.

>start timing myself when I draw
>draw three-six hours a day
>nearly five hours a day of deliberate practice
>draw OC based on what I studied
>slightly satisfied but still afraid I'll never become a good artist
>repeat
I'm afraid I'll never become any good and that is so disheartening at times when I see people who are doing much less than me and still 100x better. It's just blind faith that I'm continuously drawing so much that I might have a chance of becoming good. Do you really just get better by just doing something more?

>>5116658
How do you feel about ‘expats’ working remotely and living in chapter cost of living countries like yours? Always wondered if it caused resentment. I used to do it, but being back in the West due to corona is fucking gay so I want back in.

>>5117064
in some ways, yes, you build up good muscle memory and potentially workflow increase, but if youre doing everything devoid of context its the same as trying to re-invent the wheel.

a lot of people progress fast for seemingly less for a few reasons.

1. they arent posting everything they do. they might be redrawing something 3 times in between and developing the pose they want, or trashing poses that didnt come out right. to viewers, this seems like theyre progressing fast.

2. they have a specific goal they want to achieve and are utilizing resources to achieve it. if a coomer says "I want to draw as good as tony taka/asanagi/whatever", theyre going to look at his art and borrow things from it that are appealing, adding to their visual library. It's very hard to stylize in a vacuum and requires lots of experimentation with developed fundamentals.

3. most of them have probably been things slower than you for longer. never forget art isnt an event in your life, its a journey

4. sometimes they have just really good teachers who know exactly where to guide them, this id say is the major problem for self teaching, but its not a handicap if youre learning properly

I'm about just done and tired of reading the normie side of social media posts on twitter and pretty much everywhere else at this point. People are so brainwashed it's almost as if I'm reading posts made by AI--but the scary thing is I know people literally think like this, even my parents who glue themselves in front of the TV all day. If people want a world where papa gov. fucks them in the rear end then so be it.

I'll just enjoy the era God allowed me to live in with otaku culture being the highlight of this existence and whatever happens, happens.

>>5117073
I don't care.
I barely see any foreigners and they are usually more competent/professional than locals. They also act as mini-diplomats, getting to know competent people and grooming them to the first world. (This is certainly bad for my country in the long run, but as long as the government does nothing to nurture these professionals for our benefit, I can't blame individuals/companies).

The only real problem are leftists bringing their bullshit ideology here, but these generally get reality-checked by locals and go back to their racist true selves, in silence.

If you can't learn the language to a communicable degree, though, you are not welcome.

>>5117064
work on your story structure.

Introduction > Development > Twist > Resolution

Your greentext fell flat. There was no conclusion or twist or any distinguishable change in your story. You told a joke with no punchline.

Here's a greentext with better story-structure.
>Practice drawing a lot
>5 hrs a day, every day
>try drawing from imagination
>its complete shit

See how the ending is more satisfying? There's suddenly a "point" or "purpose" to your whole story.

(sorry, I'm hopped up on caffeine and sugar. Don't know why I'm berating you over this meaningless thing. I'm a waste of space and time)

>>5117196
>If you can't learn the language to a communicable degree, though, you are not welcome.

Not him but that's fair for anyone wanting to stay long-term in any country.

>posted a tweet celebrating 100 followers
>lost two

>>5117097
thanks for the advice

>they have a specific goal they want to achieve and are utilizing resources to achieve it. if a coomer says "I want to draw as good as tony taka/asanagi/whatever"
Is it better if I just pick one specific artist instead of multiple ones?

>>5117348
Never celebrate anything until you’re long past 1k.

>>5117348
If you celebrate such a minor milestone, you show that you only care about numbers, not making art.

>>5117176
My life is a lot more relaxing when I stop following the news. Watching the news was like witnessing a nerve-wrecking football game except there is no end to it

Is Earth actually Hell? I've been thinking about it recently. Satan wanted to do more than just worship God. So he was casted out of heaven into Earth (or however the story goes).

But we think of Hell as this place where you're constantly burning. But in order for a fire to start it needs something to combust. Fire consumes. We're constantly consuming the pleasantries in an endless consoomerism that Satan wanted. And eventually some of us get tired of this consumption. We want out of the fire, out of Hell. And apparently the only option and the only answer is Christ. If we accept him while we're living we just go back to him.

But if we die here...we just come back 20, 50, 100, 500, 1000 years later in whatever ruling 1st world dystopia. It's no wonder these powers that be are so smug. They know what's up and there is probably more to it than what I'm saying. Maybe they're constantly reborn into power.

I feel like I've spent so much time drawing, when do I start improving? Am I ever going to be good?
I used to think I was making progress until I started coming here.

>>5117428
Cliche as it may be, the expression "practice makes perfect only if you practice perfect" is true. I.e., it isn't simply about how much time you put into, say, drawing, but the quality of the time you put into it. Are you putting quality time into drawing? If so, you will improve. It may not be noticable to you right now, but if you're drawing a lot and making good use of that time then you will necessarily get better.

>>5117428
What's your goal? How do you know you progress unless there is a standard upon which you hold yourself onto? Hours don't mean anything if you aren't moving towards your goal.

I basically have no audience, where would i be able to look for people making paid requests? the closest example i could find is the /aco/ commission thread, but i really need to branch out. you guys know any more places?

>>5117440
/I/ think so. I mean I'm not speed-drawing a ton of boxes and expecting to improve that way. My progress just feels very slow. I'm also worried I take too much time to actually draw, but that's only because I'm trying to study what I'm drawing.

>>5117443
>What's your goal?
get better

>>5113865
drinking chocolate onion milk does sound like a good way to cause some gastrointestinal issues.

I was right in my assumption

>>5115082
just pirate photoshop. or, if you have a student id and hate piracy, use that to get a good discount for it.

Can i post anything here or it has to be art related?

>>5117456
Twitter is a good place. You can do a search for people looking for artists. Seems like a lot of book authors want custom art, plus there's always people looking for custom Twitch emotes if you're into that kind of thing (You can easily sell one for $10-25)

>>5110483
I've procrastinated my studies the whole year. I have a test to do on the 31. I thought I had 6 months worth of content to study, but today I tried doing a few tests from the last years and discovered that I don't even know the stuff I already studied properly. I know absolutely nothing I should from last year and I have 22 days to prepare. I want to die.
I already thought of an extremely intensive routine to try to salvage it, but even tough everyone says I'm a really fast learner, I'm afraid even I am not smart enough for that crunch. Not even if I work at my breaking point and cry myself to bed every single day.

>>5117518
how would i..even look? there's so many terms and i have no idea how to find people looking for artists.

>>5117531
you have to try, anon. dont think about failing or not being intelligent enough or whatever else will get in the way, because it doesnt matter regardless. just think about the work you can to do instead of giving yourself anxiety trying to predict what will happen. neither you or i know how you'll do on that test, but you do know what you can do give yourself a better chance at succeeding, so do THAT instead of worrying.

have faith! you still have time to turn things around, bro.

>>5115276
thank you anon

>>5117566
Thanks anon. I'll try to sleep now

>>5110483
I wonder if I'll make it. I work a warehouse job and the only thing I can consistently do is draw which is why I do it. I suck ass at everything else. If I don't do it, my whole life up until this point will have been a waste of time too. But I get overwhelmed with wanting to do everything. I wanna ink, I wanna make comics, make animation, digital paintings, portraits, etc.

I don't know if I can do all of that so I just end up panicking and doing nothing but the occasional art.

Anyone else sick of all the politics as of late, I just want to draw anime tiddies, I don't want to see maga or antifa. I just want to draw cute anime girls.

Also, how do you guys deal with annoying politics, do you mute them or ignore them? Do you unfollow other people for getting "political" or do you like their art too much to unfollow.

It's driving me crazy bros, I wish people would just shut up about politics and focus on whatever technical skill they want to accomplish in life, or focus on their job and paying the bills.
I guess i'm just bias since i've always been somewhat of a centrist and have never understand why people are so hellbent on politics, but i'm just venting. I sleep now. thank you ;c

>>5117531

>>5117576

Who, me? I havent done anything yet. lol Wait another 3 weeks, maybe there will be something worth celebrating.
I hope..

>>5117516
Most of these posts are only barely art related if art related at all. Join in.

>>5117583
learn a trade

>felt confident in my figures
>melt down when having to drawing figures interacting together
how do i do this

>>5117655

I unfollow the artist if I see political shit of any kind. And cancel culture. If I like their art enough those niggas get exiled to the bookmarks.
That way I can drop in and get my fix without any hindrances to my time or sanity.

>>5117683
I felt the same way about forms

>Yes, I can finally draw people in a 3d space!
>Fuck, how do I draw people interacting with that 3d space!

>>5112775
Andrew Hou's course had absolute garbage production and was completely out of date. That said I still think it taught me to work digitally.

>>5117655
Live your life to actualize yourself and be happy. If you don't want to see politics, unfollow those people. Push out the people in your life that don't make you happy. You shouldn't subject yourself to them or content you don't want to see.

I check people's timelines before I follow. I've found I can't have a perfect zero tolerance rule; I'll allow some slip for one-off posts. If it starts being consistent then unfollow. The only English speaking artists I follow don't do any politics posting.

I could draw the stuff in my comfort zone in my sleep, but when I draw the stuff I really want to draw that I've been wanting to draw all my life, my hands like freeze up and I have to force myself to draw it. It's like stage fright but the only one who's going to see my art is me. I don't know how to get over this. I'm trying to just draw but it's like a block from my brain to my hands.

How do you find time to practice?
I got a job that requires me to be out of the house for 11 hours a day, and im focusing on my health, lost 2kgs this year so far
But where can I squeeze in time?
I wanna become an artist, I wanna make comics, I wanna make a game. I just find it hard to get into it all

>>5117910
schedule specific times to practice, no matter what.
There's always going to be shit to do, so if you put off drawing (or anything) until you've "finished everything else" you're never going to do it.
Accept that you'll probably have to make sacrifices in some other areas to improve.

idk. that's just what ive observed in my own life.
also >get off this godforsaken site

I wanna vent about Illustrator.
My brother is asking me to create a logo for some small thing he's setting up, and I decided to see if I could do it in Illustrator since the use of vectors will make a logo look cleaner, but holy shit I can't wrap my head around this. Why can't it be similar to photoshop? Even the pen tools feel completely different. Do I just give up and go back to Photoshop?

Leaving Twitter was one of the best choices in my life. I was only on it frequently for about 7 months but in that small amount of time i noticed just how fucked the Twitter scene is. I can't tell if I respect or am extremely bewildered at those that risk sanity and enjoy constant egg shell walks. It's not even like I'm even an ultra maga tard its just awful. I hope the popularity is worth it. I'm just going to make my own site and build a portfolio and work quietly as a story boarder or something. I'm also considering picking up a religion. Fun stuff all around hope it gets better for all of you genuinely

>>5117384
more to add to your repertoire the better. my point there was something like "hmm, i like asanagis eyes. i will borrow their eyelash style here and put it in my own works". you can take whatever you want from another artists style from multiple to at once. its not much about the amount youre doing, just that youre getting the experience under your belt.

>>5117655
I vent in my personal discord usually or just ignore it. Sometimes I keep it in Twitter replies only so the only people exposed to shit will be people who are following both me and the convo partner, or if they're snooping. Either way, in those cases it's on them.

Regardless, you have a right to cut away people who are almost complete strangers if they say some really stupid shit or be annoying. Even though I generally believe we should try not to hate someone based off a single opinion, it's a pretty easy litmus test when someone intentionally alienates their followers over half baked opinions. "unfollow me if u are offended even a littlle bit or support this in any way!!!" = "I'm a giant emotional faggot with zero perspective"

I don't even like drawing.

Seeing a drawing that breaks all the so called rules/has no rendering/zero gesture get a gorillion likes makes me wanna quit desu

>>5113901
>I wonder ... ... if its going to go anywhere
haha this is by far the worst part about learning art.

>>5117655
>never understand why people are so hellbent on politics
For similar reasons why people go nuts about their chosen team in sports matches.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU LEARN TO RENDER I'M GOING FUCKING INSANE I DON'T KNOW JACKSHIT ABOUT DIGITAL STUFF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>5118560
Same. For me what I'm doing is just finding tutorials on how people take something from start to finish and mimic it to finished work. I'm fully aware things like color/light, value, digital trickery is involved and without solid drawing foundation the painting will look like turd.

>>5117655
i think the reasoning behind it is they see a situation they think is bad, but they're powerless to change it, so they raise awareness until hopefully someone can do something about it out of some moral obligation to use their platform for good.
problem is, i already get inundated with that type of stuff from the news. i don't need to know about another woman murdered by a cop. i can't do anything about it, the only function it serves in my life is to make me sad and angry, which is a pretty useless function considering i don't even live in the US.
i don't even mind politics, politics are fun. it's all this america-centric doom and gloom that just grinds me down. so many artists give me completely emotional whiplash by posting cute OC drawings where they eat ramen or whatever, immediately followed by another news post about someone burned alive by an angry mob. what the fuck, man.

>look up loli hentai (for reference I swear)
>nothing comes up
>go to ‘all’
>google gives the “Child Abuse imagery is illegal” message
>apparently it’s blacklisted
>pretty sure I’m on a list now
A) what’s the deal with (((Google’s))) censorship
B) I swear I’m not into this junk for the lizardmen watching me

>>5116064
it's not fucking censorship you dweeb, you're just a pervert

>>5118621
lmao why would you google it? just go to gelbooru

>>5118639
Hello woman

Finally I got my stimulus deposit ;_;

My mom is in the hospital for a stroke ;_;
1 thing after another

>>5117977

Based anon. I think youre making the right decisions.
I've gotten a lot of positive responses from people on twitter, but Im going to bounce eventually and delete my account. I dont like a lot of stuff about that service and Im thinking of building my own site too, since I also know how to code.
I think theres genuinely something evil about social media.

>>5110483
Cannot fail if i never had a resolution ahahaha

ngl if I ever lost my hands or eyesight I'm straight killing myself

Grinding to internalize knowledge you're already aware of consciously is such a chore

>>5118844
>>5118890
:(

>>5118621
Better use duckduckgo from now on

>>5117655
My timeline got super clear once I unfollowed every single person with blm acab pronounces in their bios, americans in general, and those who post media unrelated to art

>>5118560
I'm more or less as lost as you, but I can agree with what this >>5118605 anon said. From what I've first you need to know at least the basics of light/dark and color composition, and then just fucking try making something good with the digital tools at your hand. That last part is basically pure trial and error.

>>5113415
>>chat: wait, are you only using one layer?
Bruh
Seriously

>learning to draw actually is easy and clear once you have the right direction and guidance
>the truth is that anyone who's good got that stuff early one and you're just poorfag trying to live up to people born much better lives than you ever will have and you're basically never gonna make it

>>5118890
good luck with that shit. went through it about 8 or 9 years ago and it's still something i have to deal with daily. this could be a long haul, make sure to get her to all the doctors you can and inspire her to not give up. help her find something to keep on going if it's a really bad one.

>>5119002

Im poorfag and taught myself to draw since childhood. By the time I got teacher, there was not much more they could add to what I already learnt on my own.
Be honest with yourself. You dont draw enough. So you dont make gains.

>>5119021
i drew a lot and never got a teacher. all i ended up was with a lot of bad habits

>>5119002
can you give me some of that right direction and guidance because I'm lost.

>>5117970
Just do the logo in photoshop using 4K res. You could barely notice the differences even on a huge ass poster
If your brother is still fussy about it, use Adobe Capture to auto-convert everything into vector format

>>5117415
Numerous religions points out that our time on earth only amounts to around 6 to 10 days compared to the real thing, so I think earth is nothing more than a tutorial stage or a boot camp for dunce of some sort. Fuck you eve

I've been on quarantine for the past 16 days, and I've been spending most of that time reigniting my love for art. I would wake up, do some exercises, check the news, then spend the rest of the day drawing.


Before now, I literally have not drawn in over 8 months because I haven't had the time or energy because of my job.

But now, I tested negative on my most recent lab results, so I'm clear to go back to work...
I really don't want to, but I need money to survive. Living in quarantine on paid leave for the past several days has been truly amazing. Now im going to go back to being livestock, where I won't draw again for maybe another 4 months or so.
fuck my life. This COVID thing has just been a huge redpill. Unless you're a NEET with unlimited free time there's no way you will make any significant art gains.

Its just not possible.

drawing so hard and frustrating at times

>>5119036
just draw what you like dude :^) But seriously
One of the most important thing you'll need is the ability to control your lines. Without this everything you do next will be for nothing. That means being able to make perfect value scales, WORKABLE lines and elipses, ability to draw lightly on command, and lines that convay each emotion.
Start with boxes in perspective, shading basic forms, and figure drawing. All the fundementals are there and as you advance the easier it'll be
Absorb as much information as you can, learn the same subject from different teachers even. NEVER think you understand something because you read one book or watched one video. Video teachers are great because you can go at your own pace but are terrible because no one is there to accommodate information to you. Download a lot of videos. I rec start with Art and Science of Drawing

I don't want to be half-hearted in my advice but frankly people not used to what it means to be helpless sicken me

>>5119108
Thank you for the advice. What exactly do you mean by workable, because you seem to emphasis it?
Also is there any more videos you recommend.

>>5119122
no one can get perfect circles or lines, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't practice them
think about how a circle looks like made by someone who never draws and someone who does
also remember to use your entire arm to draw even if it "feels weird" at first
>anymore videoes
do your own homework. you make me want to vomit

>>5119125
>do your own homework. you make me want to vomit
I'm trying, sorry.

>learning anatomy made me hornier

How to win on /ic/
>Steal good work from Twitter/Tumblr/Art Station/streams/etc., post it as your own
>Make mass-reply crab posts in every thread, but then also tag team in with everyone else who's telling you to fuck off on your own post
>Shill for coomer-artist wage slavery lifestyle
>Call everything /beg/
>Never give out (You)'s

>>5119030
I drew a lot and never got a teacher, but I live in the age of information and sought out resources instead of letting myself stagnate. There are no excuses. This is the future.

>>5119131
everyone thinks they're trying until they realize how wrong they've been doing something

>>5119173
feel good about yourself huh

>>5119171
Forgot
>Only give praise to horny, low-effort anime art

>>5119171
>calling that winning

>depressed
>drawing every day
>therapist prescribes antidepressants last week
>feeling great
>have not had a single urge to draw since I started taking happy pills, work I started right before taking the first pill hasn't been touched since
I don't feel sad about it either. I should I guess? But I'm feeling pretty good right now. I may never draw again.

>>5110483
11 years.
2010-2021.
No progress.
Zero. Zip. Zilch.
Who the fuck are you people kidding? By the time you've got two digits for your age, you're too old for art.

>>5119357
>2010-2021.
>No progress.

I highly doubt that. Pyw

I fucking hate everything /ic/. I'm stuck at some dead end wage cuck job 40 hours a week, 40 hours I could spend drawing. My only solace is drawing during my break, but it still leaves me devoid of any motivation to do shit when I get home. Is there a way out?

>>5119346
When my doctor prescribed me antidepressants, I bought them and ended up throwing the box in the trash without using any after reading a bit about it online. One of my friend did the same after I told him to. These things are zombie-makers.

>>5110483
I’m intimidated by my own art lol

Don't have motivation to meet my goals anymore because I have this nagging feeling in me that says "who cares, no one will appreciate your work." so it just stops me dead in my tracks every time. Even if I pick up something that's just for me that thought comes around sooner or later and it just stays there. I just want to fucking disappear already.

>>5119359
What do you want? A fucking stick figure?

>>5119346
Antidepressants kill all of your emotions, but I guess it makes you stop hating yourself. I was on them for 3 months (Zoloft)
Maybe they're jogging your noggin about what you really want and maybe drawing needs to wait

I will draw tomorrow

>>5119423
Gotta kill those thoughts anon.
Finding a better community than 4chan's /if/ board is a start.

I feel like I am attention whoring when adding tags on tweets
but if I didn't, people probably won't ever find my artworks

I want art friends with similar I don't want to say personality but I guess outlook on life as myself. I've always been a pretty optimistic person, failures be damned, and I just want to do my best even if my best isn't always great. Every time I find an artist I think I could get along with, they tend to be so depressed or quick to let failures get in the way, and honestly I have tried to make friends with these types of people before, but it always ends with me being a free therapist to an emotional drain. I just want fun art friends. I have fun friends who like my art but it's not really a hobby we share. It just isn't really the same. Where do I even look?

>>5119551
if this was 2010 and not on twitter, it would have been easier, social media changed too fast, late artist get nothing...

I’m seriously considering leaving social media platforms (twitter,discord,ic) for my mental health and future gains. i get caught up with all these emotions outside of art because of them and it hinders my progress as a whole. im not sure if itll be for better or for worse to completely isolate myself and grind rather than being in groups.

>>5119590
if you have money you can do anything

>>5119473
draw now

I feel like my only purpose in life is to be some dumb pathetic fucktard used as a clown token so others can tell themselves "huh... it's possible to be this miserable. makes me so happy lol!". Everything I draw overflows with agony and disgust. I'm not trying to waste my time with jealousy, but I'm also growing tired of seeing kids being better than I will ever be in a matter of weeks after picking up art.

>>5119496
I actually don't visit /ic/ outside of checking for books

>>5120028
evidently not the case, you're on this thread

>try to draw a head traditionally
>decent result after a couple of minutes of drawing
>try to draw a head digitally
>crappy result after several minutes of struggling
The worst part is, I like to draw bodies and backgrounds digitally.

I realized all this deplatforming and censorship is a good thing. All my hobbies will finally go back to being secluded. Japan cracking down is actually 9D chess because now they might just really go back and think about Japan first, never the west second. Less official licensing. Things are ironically in our favor.

>we offer """"competitive pay""""
>$10/hr

What the fuck is wrong with these businesses bro? That's not competitive in anyway my states minimum wage is $15.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Fucking piece of shit ghetto ass kike hell hole!
This piece of shit landlord got me a job during Rona saying how it's a super good job and he used his good name to get me in and how everybody else is making SOOO much money in there.
This place smells like a locker room every day, the managers pretty much ask you on a daily basis to do illegal and dangerous things and get angry at you for not doing them.
Like min wage no matter what work you do was not bad enough, paycheck rolls around and the job takes a FIFTH A FUCKING FIFTH.
1K bucks, for a full time, every day attendance, plus 2 hours total of rides each and every single day.
Rent for this rotting apartment with dangerous budget cuts in every corner where you can feel the electricity in the water and touching the stove is 700$, bills are another 2hundo. Guess eating raw ingredients isn't thrifty living enough!
It would at least be bearable if people here were nice. People here are disgusting, they smell like chocking perfumes, ciggies, and rotting teeth! ALL THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS SOCCER
AND THEY ARE
SO
FUCKING
LOUD
God dammit I need to think about how I use my down time optimally to help me clear my head from this dumpster of a place. I'd fucking take soulless korean animation studio work over this shit.

>when i draw for fun they look like day 1 gigabeg
>when i put effort they look high beg but it takes 5 times the effort and time

i just want to be happy...

>>5120804
Progressive overload, anon. Progressive overload

you basically can't be an artist if you come from a blue collar life

>>511903
Just came back to this thread. Now that so much stuff is online, theres a lot of room for us disadvantaged people to come out on top. Especially since they have online art school now. I'm saving my money up so I can get a full subscription to NMA and have some of them teach me the advanced techniques.
I've been looking at CGMA, too.
When you lack money, you gotta be crafty too. When I dont understand something, I watch videos of some of the pros doing something and try to imitate them, or I read some pirated books from online.
To be sure, I think the only real bad habit is not drawing/creating. No practice kills so many people's talent- rich or poor.

>>5121099
I tried to link to this post.
>>5119030

I have no idea what happened. Hope this shows up right.

>>5121099
money is only half as important
you also need to be surrounded by people who are supportive but also knowledgeable. At least grow up with that. Otherwise, you'll be a bitter fuck who draws for some sense of survival

I’m never attempting line art ever again until I have grinded over 2000 hours.

I finally drew today

im coming up on 24 years old and i STILL can't understand even one-point perspective
i just cant fucking get it, what the fuck is wrong with me? am i broken?

>>5121408
what don't you understand about it? What do you understand so far? Maybe you're just overthinking something

>>5121408
One point perspective is pretty simple, what don't you understand?

>>5121413
>>5121414
i'm sure that i am overthinking it, i just can't seem to get it in my head
i think it's in the same vein as my issues with calculation. Straight lines and basic math fall under this category of just... impossible to me, and i dont know why

>>5121408
grind some boxes

I've never drawn better than I draw now but this board has also poisoned my mind. I have to actually fight off the "/ic/ voice" as I draw to get ANYTHING done.

I managed to draw plenty to day but just by coming to terms with the fact that it's okay if its shitty or something I'd get humiliated for if I posted

The hand of the Lord was on me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the Lord and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones. He led me back and forth among them, and I saw a great many bones on the floor of the valley, bones that were very dry. He asked me, "Son of man, can these bones live?"

I said, "Sovereign Lord, you alone know."

Then he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones and say to them, 'Dry bones, hear the word of the Lord! This is what the Sovereign Lord says to these bones: I will make breath enter you, and you will come to life. I will attach tendons to you and make fleshh come upon you and cover you with skin; I will put breath in you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the Lord"

Ezekiel 37

People that try to use the same "Character Design" into any kind of art is fucking annoying, they are the "Show don't tell" of art

>>5121209
If you dont try lineart you wont get better at it you idiot

>>5119384
I was on the same boar once, but now I only choose jobs that roughly amounts to 20 hours a week. Less pay, but better for my sanity

>>5110483
>sketch
>looks good/passable
>put it on 50% opacity
>open a new layer
>line art
>looks like absolute dogshit
every single fucking time what the fuck how do I get around this FUCK

>>5121535
>50% opacity
That's your problem, try 5-10% for it to be barely visible so you don't rely on the sketch when you look at the overall drawing

>>5121544
oh fuck, 10% works like a charm, cheers anon

>>5121506
>I will put breath in you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the Lord"

What a fuckin boss

>>5121521
Okay...

>>5121893
Oh you know what? My resolution was set so low is what made the line quality ass. And also, I come back to the drawing and seen so much wrong with it. Never sit for 9 hours straight drawing without long break I guess.

I hate my art. I hate my art. I hate my art. Oh, my God.

>>5122865
Don't hate your art. Draw for fun at the start, that how it is

autism