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5103740 No.5103740 [Reply] [Original]

What are his secrets? Why is he so good? How to paint like that?

>> No.5103746

Loomis

>> No.5103766

>>5103740
pedo type beat but good art so i dont care, post more

>> No.5103767

CUNNY juice

>> No.5103770

>>5103766
have at yourself: https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=alkemanubis&pid=0

>> No.5103813

>>5103740
he's one of my favorite artists

>> No.5103832

>>5103740
Pedophile recluses have a lot of time on their hands to become good at drawing. It's really no rocket science.

>> No.5103973

>>5103832
t. retard

he has his family added on facebook and openly posts his work there. cope

>> No.5103990

>>5103973
no amount of breeding will make him less of a recluse.

>> No.5104004

>>5103990
if you can be a recluse and still breed you've 100% made it.

>> No.5104013
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5104013

He fluctuates from cute, innocent paintings of little girls to uncomfortably sexual pictures of little girls. Weirds me out a little, ngl desu sempai.

This fan art of Kid is pretty nice though.

>>5103973
>family
What kind of family? Does this guy have a wife and children?

>> No.5104015

>>5104013
His faces are a hit or miss, seems like most of his work is an experiment between animay and a disney mashup.

>> No.5104022

>>5103832
He openly post his loli sketches and paintings on his facebook, (his personal one) and his friends or family the shit he makes on a daily basis lol

>> No.5104023
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5104023

>>5103770
>the fucking comments

>> No.5104026

>>5104023
>It's just a fictional drawing bro!

>> No.5104040
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5104040

>>5104023
Holy shit these people skeeve me the fuck out. And lolifags wonder why people don't like them.

>> No.5104057
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>>5104040
>>5104023
christ

>> No.5104064

>>5104040
>>5104023
These people are autistic or underage themselves, real lolifags are very respectful of lolis and would only comment delightful things about them

>> No.5104074

>>5104040
i also go down the comments on generic pornhub videos and decide every single man who looks at a woman is just as creepy and delusional

>> No.5104133

>>5103740
I love the highlights.

>> No.5104148

>>5104074
porn comments are always creepy, but you have to admit this is especially creepy.

>> No.5104156

>>5104148
these exist on every single fetish, the only difference is its a fetish you dont like

gelbooru comments have always been cancer and full of unhinged retards talking dirty to pixels; the stuff i see under trap pictures makes me want to heave usually

>> No.5104429

A modern day Bouguereau truly

>> No.5104441

>>5103740
Is not even making your own background and just painting over a photograph supposed to be impressive?

>> No.5104443

>>5103740
Fucking CREEPY nobody can tell me that his stuff isn't straight up pedophilia

>> No.5104444

>>5104441
>t.never seen his process videos
Despite his loli crap, he’s a well skilled draftsmen of an artist.

>> No.5104445

>>5104156
it's something else if it's about little children. If you don't get that, you're part of the problem

>> No.5104449

>>5103740
What's the essence of the pedo? How come his sfw images reek of pedo? What are the signs?

>> No.5104451

>>5104004
if you are a pedophile, you definitely didn't make it. unless you are a fucking weirdo of course.

>> No.5104452

>>5104444
t. thinks a curated process video is representative of how he always works even when the photo is very obvious to tell and the animu pedo character doesn't even fit in with the color scheme or shape language of the photograph

>> No.5104456

>>5104445
its something else because you dont like it, retard
someone could provide heavy details on why they like poop or rape and itll be just as gross, just admit youre a little bitch

>> No.5104460

>>5104456
Poop is disgusting cause it's not sanitary. It's a pretty objective feeling to have. Rape is disgusting cause it's non con. Child molestation is disgusting cause it's non con.

Go on. Let me redpill you on all the fetishes.

>> No.5104469

>>5104460
so you are capable of rationalizing. pedos wanting to bone children and exploring their awful problems through alkes art isnt different from rape fetishists engaging in fake play or art. its not "something else" but theres no doubt you feel far more indifferent to shit niggers or probably even rape fantasizers (a heavily female dominated fetish, to add)

using public facing comments on a porn site full of roleplaying psychiatric rejects to judge a general fetishes mental state is just confirmation bias

>> No.5104473

>>5104469
the majority of porn produced for men satisfy the rape fantasy, how the fuck is that a female majority? dumb fuck

>> No.5104475

>>5104473
who do you think consumes a majority of porn, retard?

>> No.5104478
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>>5103740
Even his pencil sketches are beautiful

>> No.5104492

>>5104023
>gelbooru comments
Never again. Think of them as more abominable YouTube comments.

>> No.5104519

>>5104475
men? good job debunking your own argument

>> No.5104525

>>5104519
>retard doesnt understand the difference between market share and population

not surprised actually, you probably dont critically think very much

>> No.5104527

>>5104525
but that proves women arent a majority in rape fantasy if the market caters to men
porn itself is a rape fantasy, so why arent women the biggest market for it? could it be because you're wrong? go jerk off and murder some more of your braincells

>> No.5104528

>>5103740
What causes people to turn into pedophiles?

>> No.5104534

>>5104527
actually retarded. women dont need to turn to porn when their shitty fantasies will be far more easily fulfilled by random men reluctantly, this is the entire reason its a male dominated market.

youd know this is a major fetish if you actually interacted with women, on the off chance youre a woman yourself its probably just you lying through your teeth because youre incapable of honesty

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>>5104528
coomerism, trauma, anime, retardation, having a high enough iq to realise little girls are actual sex demons... boy idk tbqh roflmao

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>>5104040
>>5104057
>>5104064
>>5104074
alot of these comments are made from third worlders, who naturally,don't have the same opinion of lolis as Americans do.

>> No.5104618

>>5104534
>women like to be raped and that is why pedoshit is a-ok.
You've convinced me, anon.

>> No.5104619

>>5104618
youre the one who honed in on a passing comment about women; i put it there to see if youd take the bait. men instinctively agree or already know

>> No.5104628

>>5104548
>implying the majority of third worlders even know what anime is
nice try pedomutt

>> No.5104640

>>5104628
>implying the majority of third worlders even know what anime is
yes....?
most countries in the third world aired anime throughout the 80s and 90s before it was even mainstream in the United States.

>> No.5104646

>>5103740
hard round brush

>> No.5104651

>>5104628
youre right, third worlders are actually just unironic pedos whod commit crites but you retards bitch about drawing consumption by mutts because youre obsessed with america

>> No.5104674

>>5104646
My dick is hard and round
And post your work

>> No.5104789
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5104789

>>5104674

>> No.5104793

>>5104789
i'm gonna have fun with my pencil

>> No.5104886

>>5104452
You are an absolute nigger, he paints everything from scratch

>> No.5104893
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5104893

>>5104886

>> No.5104911
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>>5104023
you have to admit, the drawing is pretty suggesting

>> No.5104919

>>5104911
>didn't grow with a sister

>> No.5104969

Why are americans so moralfags? Get out of my thread If you dont like him or his art style

>> No.5104984

>>5104911
Is this a surprise? Alke draws porn all the time

>> No.5105058

>>5104022
What a fucking chad.

>> No.5105190

>>5103740
I've fapped to one or two of this dude's stuff but the chubby limbs, the faces, and the detailed rendering kinda gross me out.

>> No.5105452

>>5104528
cunny

>> No.5105463

>>5104022
Genuinely don't know how anyone could publicly post are like this. I have OCD and it makes me terrified to think that someone would think I was a nonce.

>> No.5105605

>>5105463
that's because you're a pussy and crave validation from shitters to feel good about yourself instead of drawing what you like

>> No.5105611

>>5105605
Actually I live in the UK and the amount of witch hunting here makes me genuinely anxious to be myself.

>> No.5105618

>>5105611
Alke lives in a country where that's technically illegal as well

>> No.5105621

>>5105618
Pretty based but I couldn't do it. I have panic attacks thinking about it.

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5105633

>>5103740
I love when he does environments

>> No.5105875

>>5105633
what is that thing on her mouth, is she blwing a condom?

>> No.5105881

>>5105633
So this is the power of pursued Cunny

>> No.5105889

>>5105633
I hate how he doesnt have a sense of color theory whatsoever, he is a pretty good drafstman but his coloring is shit, never fill light or color scheemes, nothing just plain rendering with some scorching direct light, it get boring real quick

>> No.5105902

>>5105889
Elaborate on it further please

>> No.5105907

>>5105902
he doesnt know what hes talking about

>> No.5105910

>>5105907
you don't know what he's talking about

>> No.5105915

>>5105907
I want to give him the benefit of doubt, maybe he's on to something and maybe just maybe we'll learn something who knows he might know his shit and a thing or two about a thing or two.

>> No.5105917
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5105917

>>5105902
Compare Alkes work wo this, they share the same skill level when comes to figure drawing and rendering of form, yet Alkes work feel sterile for some reason, and that reason is he is not quite yet in the color theory part of painting

>> No.5105922

>>5105910
yeah

>> No.5105925

>>5105917
that piece is cluttered hard to read garbage lmao

>> No.5105928

>>5105917
What do you mean by sterile? Because I fail to see your point, if a warm ambience is what Alke was trying to achieve he nailed it on the head along with colors that compliment warmth. On your example it shows no strong light or focal point other than that bear but it is cluttered by all that blurr effect shit that does no good to the composition it leads the eye through a clusterfuck and we don't know what to look at.

>> No.5105930

he's very talented but his subject is suspicious

>> No.5105932
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5105932

>>5105930
Suspicious indeed.

>> No.5105933

>>5105928
>>5105925
>you can clearly see the focal point enhaced by the value grouping on the pic
>LMAOOOO cluttered no focal point
the absolute state

>> No.5105938
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5105938

>>5105933
It's a clusterfuck bro. My eyes strained looking at this shit.

>> No.5105945

>>5105928
This. The loli picture feels like i was dropped right into the middle of a warm autumn evening in my grandpa's study. Its super comfy and interesting just on its own. I dont get any feeling from the bear pic besides maybe a vague sense that what im supposed to be looking at it epic? Its like night and day and i cant imagine how anon can say the latter is better than the former.

>> No.5105955

>>5105938
Are you underage or retarded by any chance?

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5105958

>>5105945
Every fucking time I give credence to a faggot here I always end up getting burned in the ass, I was hoping for some sort of revelation or enlightenment but no I get shit like >>5105955
I deserve what I get.

>> No.5105963
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5105963

So, this is a clusterfuck as well?

>> No.5105965

>>5105955
Underage kids are the one supposed to be impressed by this shit. 14 year old me would have loved it.

>> No.5105967

>>5105958
So whats wrong with what anon said? Can you at least elaborate?

>> No.5105981

>>5105967
He called me a retard like a petulant child because we had a different point of view and stated that the blur effects did no good to the composition since they interfere with the primary focal point.
>>5105963
No.

>> No.5105989

>>5105963
>249x202
embarrassing
and no it's not a clusterfuck since the frontal figures are clearly the focus and separated from the background by how the scene is lit
In Van Rijn piece you're supposed to focus on those two figures first and then explore the rest of the painting

the toddler cartoon piece you posted is bland and indistinct, I focused on nothing in particular

>> No.5105995

>>5105989
I meant Rembrandt, shit just whatever I'm kinda drunk right now but I still can tell a bland painting when I see one

>> No.5105999

>>5105917
This is shit. You're ngmi

>> No.5106006

>>5105989
Man are you blind? The bears and the kid silhoute perfectly against the dark log, there is no other place for your eye to go, its basic composition stuff, it infuriates me how people who know absolute jackshit can make fun of a pic just because they lack the knowlegde to see they are wrong

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5106010

>this art good because makes me coom coom
This place never change

>> No.5106115

>>5105963
Yes, it is. Anything that is not easy on the eyes is a clusterfuck, just because it's old doesn't mean it's any good. This is not like wine

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5106138

>>5106115

>> No.5106150

>>5106010
no the coom is just a plus. it's well done. if you feel otherwise, feel free to redline

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5106160

>>5106150

>> No.5106190

>>5103740
Take the cunnypill

>> No.5106211

>>5106160
>it's bad because it's unrealistic
Ah, I see you have no argument whatsoever. Oh well, carry on.

>> No.5106221

>>5103740
SOULLESS

>> No.5106256

>>5106160
>you're not allowed to have an art style!
lmao whut

>> No.5106328

>>5106160
t. drawing still life for 40 years

>> No.5106330

>>5106328
as long as i keep painting me fucking ur mom

>> No.5106337

>>5106330
GOTTEM

>> No.5106452

>>5104534
Spoken like a true fucking retard, i swear I used to take you incel rhetoric seriously but you're all stupid and you still talk like you know everything.

>> No.5106515
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5106515

>>5104023
This is like the OwO *notices your bulge" furry shit of pedos right here. Wtf.

>> No.5106646

>>5106515
some of the stream chats at piczel and pomf are worse, the worst part is when the creators engage and even enable these people
those chats aren't saved so they have free license to go full retard

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5106702

Remember this is how he used to draw. Never give up bros.

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5106735

>>5106702
really? I-I can make it?

>> No.5106776

>>5106702
>that's how i draw currently
okay maybe there's still hope for me after all

>> No.5106782

>>5106776
I'm pretty sure he still was like a teenager at that point and he's been drawing for more than 10 years

>> No.5106867

>>5103740
Why are pedos so good at art. It's not fair!

>> No.5106869

>>5106867
ToT ToT ToT ToT ToT ToT ToT ToT ToT ToT ToT ToT ToT ToT

>> No.5106941

>>5105917
yikes

>> No.5107637

why is this board so full of retards who cant even read a simple composition?

>> No.5108072

>>5103770
why does he insist on only drawing that

>> No.5108078

>>5105875
it's a tounge

>> No.5108218

>>5106646
why are you in those streams?

>> No.5108243

>>5108218
I like the art :)
Just think that all this pseudo RP shit is kinda cringe and is what can get artists in trouble more than the art itself
Just look at Shadman, the only reason people still say he's a pedo is for those Discord comments

>> No.5108248

>>5106782
no one says its a short journey

>> No.5108850

>>5106867
They're willing to take risks while staying true to themselves, I kinda envy them.

>> No.5108873

>>5106160
>LeCoom retard blown the fuck out.

>> No.5108965

>>5104628
>implying the majority of third worlders even know what anime is
Are you retarded. Every single thirld world country is weeb as fuck, during the 80s onwards uncensored subbed anime got sold there because the states pussied out on purchasing the TV licenses from Japan, and the very few that did arrive to the US, got butchered with censorship and dub. Japan started to sell them everywhere or it would have been a huge loss, and it turns out that it ended up as a solid business, it continued like that even after the 2000s. Why the fuck do you think there were such an amount of passion animation projects during the 80s and 90s with such high quality that modern digital anime still cant replicate? Answer is, no shortage of money at all, the demand was there and it paid well.

>> No.5108981

>>5108850
That's an interesting perspective.

>> No.5109132
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I had zero idea that he was a lolicon until I learned about it when I was older. It's a rather strange and admittedly a bit of a uncomfortable feeling. Pic related was stunning to me when I first saw it.

>> No.5109399

>>5109132
>Exclusively draws cunny in an endless hyperfixative stream of art
>"I had no idea he was a lolicon!"

>> No.5110409

>>5109132
Maybe he's genuinely pure about it, he just sees little girls as the most beautiful subject for his art.

>> No.5110416

I feel like he had a mission to prove he was a good artist and not just a lolicon. I wonder if he wasnt such a lolicon would he be as motivated to improve? Kek. It's like he wanted people to be conflicted about him

>> No.5110443

The way this artist meticulously paints and organize his paintings with such accuracy and search of perfection, considering the subject and the overall stifness, only reminds me of a psycopath that would delicately apply make up to dead corpses after killing them in cold blood.

>> No.5110451

>>5110443
Dumb ESL

>> No.5110652

>>5110443
That's cruel thing to say, but I do admit it is a interesting personal observation.

>> No.5110659

>>5109399
Well I was younger then and I didn't do a deep dive into his career at the time, and regularly drawing cute girls is something I'm sure alot of regular joes and janes do anyways.

>> No.5110931

>>5110659
>and regularly drawing cute girls is something I'm sure alot of regular joes and janes do anyways.
Maybe I should... my art is suffering for the lack of subject variety, I just hope if someone else discovers my drawings I won't be judged so hard for it.

>> No.5110947

>>5103740
Being a pedo gives you a better appreciation for form. Non-pedos are not good at art
If you are not a pedo you are NGMI

>> No.5110950

>>5110947
damn, time to get into shota

>> No.5110958

>>5110950
based

>> No.5110991

>>5110931
It's all about how you depict it and the way it looks. I think that the work of legit lolicon/pedophiles more often than not have a sort of uncomfortable edge to it (when it's not blatantly suggestive), like how the subject is posed or the situation they're in. But I think its more often because of how its rendered, usually in a realistic way even in a 'cartoonish' style. This is probably naive or uneducated view on my end though.

>> No.5113184

didn't his patreon get deleted or some shit?

>> No.5113228

>>5110950
a lot of the shota artists here are unnaturally good

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>>5110947
Must be all the marlocks.

>> No.5113637

>>5113228
never been to the threads. how are they? I like drawing shotas and lolis and even have a loli oc (but not in a pedo way)

>> No.5113665

>>5104023
>>5104040
Haha, love the reaction image overlays! Mind if I post this on r/4chan?

>> No.5113678

There are process vídeos of his pieces, his process is surprisingly straightforward

>> No.5113690

>>5113678
Got any links?

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>>5113265

>> No.5113961

>>5104064
>delightful things about them
Anon, those comments are delightful in the mind of a pedophile.

>> No.5113985

Mmmm anime children

>> No.5114173

>>5113184
Yeah there was a drama around him when one of his sfw coloring tip posts went viral and some roastie exposed him for being a cunnyseur and had a nerve to shill her own patreon after taking down his own

>> No.5114196

>>5114173
based

>> No.5114209

huge waste of talent. but if drawing little girls keeps him from grooming them I guess he should continue

>> No.5114293

>>5110947
This
>>5114209
So true. He should be drawing guys from warhammer 50k instead, that would be Epic

>> No.5114309

>>5110409
As should we all

>> No.5114312

>>5105633
>non-prescription glasses

>> No.5114323

>>5105917
The colors in that look like shit lol
Also >>5105925

>> No.5114324

>>5105963
>descarga (4).jpg
Also comparing that to >>5105917 is beyond retarded.

>> No.5114420

>>5114323
>the colors are shit
>why?
>b.because they are shit ;___;
the seventh circle of arthell is here

>> No.5114424

>>5113690
jewtube

>> No.5115863

>>5104013

You do know he actually paints loli porn right?

>> No.5115864

>>5104040
>very cute pic
holy smokes, slay that horrendous beast who typed that

>> No.5115894

>>5114420
unrefined taste.
a bunch of saturated but different colors does not inherently make a piece better, the colors don't even give off the mood of the action that the scene contains

alkes work is far superior in this front, most of his colors here work well together, with a bunch of varying oranges and yellows (and blue objects properly looking like theyre basking in that colored light). he does far better at bringing you into the warm embrace of the light coming through the window, almost to the point where you can almost smell the dusty room full of books and probably other classroom-like materials. the blues do well to draw your attention to the same thing to the girl is looking at, almost as if youre really on the other side sharing a mutual interest in the subject. alkes work here at least is infinitely better in my opinion. when i look at his works, i feel like hes truly drawing what he desires to experience. in this circumstance, he is the absolute apex of soul.

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>>5115894
i also dont even think you know what youre talking about with color theory. he utilized complimentary colors in his picture very well, keeping his oranges close together despite encompassing a vast range of objects. its a simply palete, but theres no issue with it

>> No.5116076

>>5115910
Dude the guy literally copies his color from pinterest refs, he even post thoose refs time to time con his twatter, he doesnt come uno with te colors he just COPY them
>>5115894
>unrefined taste
>use the same principles Nathan Fawkes, San Nielson and Marco bucci teach about color
You are nothing but a massive braindead fuck

>> No.5116082
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5116082

>>5116076
cool, so you gonna explain how the turd the other guy posted is somehow better than it? colors are finite and i never said his palette was original, just that its good.

I can find countless generic digital fantasy themed artworks with the same palette and principles, unless principles to you just mean inherently being ugly for the sake of being different

>> No.5116089
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5116089

>>5116082
you are sucking from the cock of a guy who paints like this, just please remeber that
the pic you posted has better color than any Alkes pic despite being splash art, in fact has very good use of color but you are unnable to see that because you are a fanatic who got absolutely assblasted after someone demeed his favorite artist as not "perfect", Alke drafstmanship is superior, the guy construct his figures from scratch, never trace or take shortcuts, and his rendering of form is flawless, but that takes a toll, and that is his color skills being left behind in sake, I suposse of time for grinding the previous skills
please take his cock out of the brain of yours and see the fucking truth

>> No.5116096

>>5116089
alkes is better and you are suck cock, i willl piss on canvas make yellow green and blue to appeal to idiots too

>> No.5116117

>all these moralfags
no victims

>> No.5116169

>>5116096
so, this is the power of /ic/ uh

>> No.5116194

>>5103740
>shitty pose that doesn't make sense in the context of the perspective
>inconsistent anatomy with torso being too long
and arms being not consistent
>photobashed background
>boring colours
soulless pedo bait

>> No.5116248

>>5116194
Ebin!

>> No.5116275

>>5116248
don't reply to me, you fucking crab

>> No.5116434

>>5115863
>loli porn
where?

>> No.5116440

>if I call his art shit I'll look super co you guys!
post redline :^]

>> No.5116442

>>5116440
who are you talking to, schizo?

>> No.5116570

>>5104911
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS!!

>> No.5117033
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5117033

>>5116434
Cunnysseur spotted

>> No.5117259

>>5117033
I'm not, but I've never even heard of him having hardcore stuff

>> No.5117359

>>5117259
He does have hardcore stuff though, check Gelbooru or sankaku.

>> No.5117397
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5117397

>>5117359
worst thing I found is the naked tinker bell but she's a grown women

>> No.5117417

>>5117397
>worst
there's nothing "bad", "worse", or "worst" about cp, you're implicitely making a moral judgement over art, which should be judged purely on an aesthetic basis

>> No.5117594

>>5117417
worst is not the best word for it, but you know what I mean context-wise

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>>5116434
bro do you even pixiv

>> No.5117633
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>>5117397
some sites don't allow nsfw loli so you have to check the sites that do.
He got banned from Patreon, for example.

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>> No.5117637
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5117637

>>5117359
>hardcore
I haven't found any penetration or even dicks, it's just naked girls masturbating

>> No.5117638
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>>5117630
>>5117633
You've gone done and done it now boy.

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>>5117633
wtf

>> No.5117641
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5117641

as far as I can tell, pixiv is his main NSFW account

>> No.5117643

>>5117639
>I have never seen a vagina

>> No.5117644
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5117644

https://www.pixiv.net/users/1489704

>> No.5117645

>>5117643
stop watching porn

>> No.5117646

>>5117645
Stop being a Vagina about it

>> No.5117659

>>5117646
repent and seek abstinence its not too late

>> No.5117662

>>5117659
and now you're being a dick.

>> No.5117672

>>5117630
>>5117633
>>5117641
didn't know pixiv allows loli

>> No.5117676
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5117676

>>5117672
It's japanese.
Pixiv is also home to user diathorn, but that's beyond the scope of this thread

>> No.5117682

>>5117676
Japan banned real life nude child models back in the 80s, but drawn loli and clothed photography are still within the law.

>> No.5117685

>>5105889
>his coloring is shit
His great coloring is the only reason these pieces look good.

>> No.5117771

>>5117630
>>5117633
>>5117635
HOLY SHIT
more like artwork & cunny board

>> No.5117815

Uhhhhhh did this thread get a whole lot more BASED all of the sudden?

>> No.5117880

>>5117815
not the thread, just the cunnyposter

>> No.5117894

>>5117643
That’s not what a pussy looks like

>> No.5117917

>>5117894
that's not a pussy that's cunny

>> No.5117996

>>5117637
There is one where is loli shota, it's on sankaku

>> No.5118773
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5118773

This is not ok.

>> No.5118796

>>5118773
wheredoyouthinkweare.jpeg

>> No.5118889

>>5118796
We are on the board where people posting that shit get banned.

>> No.5118898

>>5118773
So are you going to do something about it or was that single post the extent of it?

>> No.5118967

>>5117682
If japan banned lolis in 80's how come I have 3gb archive of photo nudity from 00's

>> No.5118972

>>5118967
prove it

>> No.5118978

>>5118972
You're glowing too hard sweatie

>> No.5118979
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5118979

>>5118972
nice try

>> No.5118980

just remember if you form your sexuality around pedo shit you should never see the light of day

seek help

>> No.5118981

>>5118889
Then report it and let the mods do their job.

>> No.5118990

>>5118980
Want to know the difference between you and a female child? Female child can become old and also a woman.

>> No.5119000

>>5118990
theres... a semblance of an insult in there i think

you tried your best and thats what counts

>> No.5119052

>>5118967
Lmao
>>5118980
No one does shit irl
It's just shitposting lighten up you sad cunt

>> No.5119056

>>5117359
>sankaku
Those fucking fags paywalled 90% of their content

>> No.5119060
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5119060

>>5104023
Lmao
There is honestly worse comments on pixiv.
99% of those niggers have wickr in their bio and a good portion of the NSFW artists aren't that mentally well.

>> No.5119068

>>5104548
>alot of these comments are made from third worlders
The ultimate cope

>> No.5119073

>>5119068
How is that "cope"??
Many of the posts are in broken/weird english like a typical third world typing format. Its mostly horny indians, and again, they don't see loli the same way as westerners do.

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>>5119073
If you go on pixiv 90% of those comments have the same horny tier posting, and they aren't third worlders lol.
I don't really give a shit, but come on stop coping.

>> No.5119089

>>5114173
Holy shit

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>>5119082
>If you go on pixiv 90% of those coments have t he same horny tier posting, and they aren't third worlders
How does that prove anything?

Pixiv is full of south americans and Indians.
Or do you really believe that everyone there is from Japan? You need to also learn the definition of what "cope" means.

Explaining why people make these kinds of weird posts is in no way me trying to deal with some kind of harsh reality. You, on the other hand, fixated on dismissing it as "cope" is ironically trying to cope.
Are you perhaps a asshurt third worlder?
Are you one of those guys that goes on gelbooru making those weird ass posts?

>> No.5119101

>>5119082
gender is a social construct

>> No.5119106
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5119106

>>5119093
>How does that prove anything?
Not much, just shitposting, though in all honestly I don't think people who fap to loli really give a shit they just fap and look away once they are done cooming.
>Explaining why people make these kinds of weird posts is in no way me trying to deal with some kind of harsh reality. You, on the other hand, fixated on dismissing it as "cope" is ironically trying to cope.
Are you perhaps a asshurt third worlder?
Are you one of those guys that goes on gelbooru making those weird ass posts?
No, I don't give a shit lol
You don't really need to take 4chin comments so seriously
>Pixiv is full of south americans and Indians.
>Or do you really believe that everyone there is from Japan?
Thought it was mainly mericans and some spanish people
Never seen any indians on pixiv.

>> No.5119109

>>5117633
I was going to congratulate /ic/ moderators for not being normie pussies, like every other board, but then i noticed some pictures were deleted already
there's nothing wrong with acknowledging the beauty of little girls, or with making art about that subject. as long as is not both illegal and enforced, there's no reason to delete it, otherwise, you're already taking a moralistic, biased stance

>> No.5119110

>>5119106
Pixiv does have a large mexican/south american userbase. I'm not sure why, but that's just how it is.
Also a significant amount are Indians or SE Asians. These same kinds of people also frequent various boorus like the one linked earlier and they all have that weird horny typing style.

I thought this need to be addressed, since so many people seemed to be confused.

>> No.5119113

>>5119110
where are the numbers to support your conspiracy theory? and why do you care so much if pedos are rich or poor? what's your endgame?

>> No.5119114

>>5119110
>Also a significant amount are Indians
Definitely not indians, sea asians maybe Indians no.
As for Latin America, I'd still say its mainly americans and westerners on pixiv after japs.

>> No.5119115

>>5119109
>acknowledging the beauty of little girls

god coombrains are fucking hopeless, dont procreate

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>>5119113
Don't have any concrete data on hand, but I was a mod for a few fandom oriented boorus in the past, and most of the comments made were overwhelmingly from third world users.

Also, if you go on any booru site and click on some random porn image, chances are there will be posts made in:
Malasian, spanish or Tagalog
>>5119113
>why do you care so much if pedos are rich or poor
???
what do you mean?

>> No.5119132

>>5119115
the human body is beatiful. as a male you're hardwire it to find it aesthetic
nymphetes had been one of the most popular subjects in all art history, until now
>>5119124
you're pretty much making up facts in order to advance some agenda, but i don't see what for. most lolicons must be poor, since most of the human race is poor. is it immoral being poor? is sex immoral?

>> No.5119136

>>5119132
>you're pretty much making up facts in order to advance some agenda
I'm not making anything up.
You're really standoffish about this and not really making much sense with these comparisons. What does weird posts by made by 3rd world users have to do with lolis being rich or poor or the morality of sex?

You sound a bit scizhoprenic

>> No.5119139

>>5119132
people don't draw that shit or like it for "aesthetic" or le beautiful human body they do it so they can sexualize and jack off to it unless you also find that graceful

>> No.5119140

>>5119136
huh? i just came in, and you and other guy(?) are entangled on heated argument about pixiv lolicons being from africa instead of america
it's weird, and makes no sense

>> No.5119142

>>5119139
of course, female aesthetics and sexual attractivness are the same thing, nobody's denying it

>> No.5119147

>>5119132
>the human body is beatiful
it is but the deleted pic was straight up lolicon which is against the rules. honestly it's a win they even allowed the other art

>> No.5119154

>>5119140
It's all a bit stupid

>> No.5119158

>>5119147
>the rules
that's my point. unless is enforced by someone, it shouldn't had been deleted. even so, users deserve to know who is the responsible of censoring
if mods delete shit preemptively just because of a personal interpretation of the law/rules, then they're the only responsibles of the censoring

>> No.5119203
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>>5119158
it's the rules for a reason. they run the site they enforce the rules. nothing against lolis but loli spammers are cancer so they get contained in their own corner

>> No.5119215

>>5119109
>wanting to fuck prepubescent girls is perfectly natural
look you can jerk it to all the loli porn you want I don't give a shit, but at least admit you're a degenerate, those kinds of mental gymnastics are a really dangerous slippery slope

>> No.5119226

>>5119203
wish they thought the same about faggots
i mean, they literally have a containtment board

>> No.5119235

>>5119226
the two aren't really comparable

>> No.5119239

>>5119235
agree. faggots are truly degenerates, and everybody is disgusted by them, and yet perfectly legal and beloved by msm

>> No.5119248

>>5119239
oh you didn't actually want to discuss you just wanted to vent

>> No.5119284

>>5119248
don't wanna derail the loli thread, but please enlight me:
why are lolicons "spammers" and "cancer" and must be "contained", while homosexual faggots are a-ok and must be celebrated?

>> No.5119348
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>>5119284
because it's true?
in terms of this site, cunnyfags tend to derail/spam way more then faggots and fujos. that's why they were banished to their corner. they did that to themselves. also because people could get in trouble if someone catches cunny on their screen.
in terms of society, fags can consent and thus no one gets hurt in the bedroom, so they were persecuted despite doing no wrong. they are innocent. they are "celebrated" as a reminder that it's ok to be fags even if the world used to and still does discriminate against you. it's more about support than celebration

like it or not the two are not comparable

>> No.5119388

>>5119348
>tend to spam way more then faggots
not even yourself believe that bullshit. loliposting is deleted ipso facto in every board, while tranny propaganda became endemic like a decade ago
no matter how you try to spin it, wanting to fuck a teenager female is perfectly natural, while getting a dick up your ass is mental illness

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>>5119388
Not him, were you not talking about homosexuality? What does this trans shit have to do with anything?
>loliposting is deleted ispo facto
Global rules
>teenager female
Lolis aren't teenagers, anon. They're little girls, and most healthy males aren't into lolishit unsurprisingly. If there's a mental illness here, being into little anime girls is the worse of the two.

>> No.5119401

>>5119388
>not even yourself believe that bullshit.
maybe you don't lurk hard enough. loli tends to get deleted fast so I don't blame you. it's calmed down over the years but they already dug their own grave and that's on them
>no matter how you try to spin it
doesn't matter what we think, one is harmful the other is not. one is legal the other is not. that's not even the point of the conversation though
you are getting way off track

>> No.5119470

>>5119401
>THINK OF THE (fictional) CHILDREN!!
why is always one of these retards on every loli thread?

>> No.5119480

>>5119470
what are you even talking about? anon mentioned real children, so I talked about real children. I couldn't care less about loli porn

>> No.5119497

>>5119480
Then stop mentioning real children in the loli thread, retardo
And if you don't care about it hide it or something instead of derailing it with your non /ic/ related tranny bullshit

>> No.5119502

>>5103740
How is this thread still up?

>> No.5119521

>>5119497
read the conversation dumbass. anon asked why fags and lolicons aren't viewed as the same, so I answered
if you can't be bothered to even read, don't chime in
>tranny bullshit
lmao whut? take your meds and hide this thread instead of derailing it with /pol/ boogieman shit

>> No.5119639

>>5119521
>anon mentions lolicons
>(You) bring up THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!
and you even admit it. kys tranny

>> No.5119848

>>5118967
where did you source it from though

>> No.5120350

>>5119639
>not having any reading comp
>still misumderstanding this badly
you should try another site. something easier like pbskids. here's my last (You). keep the change

>> No.5120617
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5120617

to all loli pedos, pleae Kill yourselfs, thx

>> No.5120623
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>>5120617
why do you have to be a pedo if you like loli. i just find them cute and it lits up a sense of instintctual wanting to protect in me. it's the only thing that makes me not kms, but maybe i should. i'm just lonely

>> No.5120625

>>5120623
You don't use sexualized terms like "loli" if that's what you mean, anon.

Same reason why I wouldn't use terms like "bara" if I want to draw strong muscular dudes. It brings a completely different connotation.

>> No.5120630

>>5120625
yeah sorry i'm just tired. i took it presonally for no reason.

>> No.5120636

>>5120625
Today I learned lolita is a sexualized term

>> No.5120647

>>5120636
Loli, not necessarily lolita (since that can refer to things like the fashion.)
No body but degenerate weeaboos would use little anime girl and loli interchangeably, likewise with shota. Unless you want somebody to guess that you want to screw little anime kids.

>> No.5120660

>>5120623
there are "cute" things, like a kitty or a sunset, and sexually alluring things, like wet thight pussy lips, or firm bubbly buttcheeks
nymphets are a mix of both. that's the whole charm about them

>> No.5120762

>>5120623
lolicon can be used for both 3dpd and 2d fags. it simply means lolita complex

>> No.5120818

>>5120762
unless you're a jap, lolicon only refers to 2d
also, nothing pd about 3d lolis. literally the most aesthetic thing in the world if you're a straight male

>> No.5120824

>>5120818
>straight pedophile
ftfy

>> No.5120842

>>5120824
redundant. all cunnybros are straight, and all straigh men are into cute young girls

>> No.5120846

>>5120818
only because we forced it so, so I guess. but it originally only meant whay I said
>nothing pd about 3d
all 3d is pg. no exceptions

>> No.5120874

>>5120842
Just because you're a mentally ill pedo doesn't mean everyone else is. Hope that van comes soon.

>> No.5120953

>>5120824
Only an artist and a madman can appreciate the beauty of nymphets. Plebs get hags, but only the selected patrician get cunny
>>5120846
If you can't appreciate the superior aesthetic of 3d lolis, i suggest you to change profession. maybe accountancy is more of your speed?

>> No.5120956

>>5120953
pedophile

>> No.5120961

>>5120956
by current media standards every male is a pedo

>> No.5120964
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5120964

>>5120842
>redundant. all cunnybros are straight, and all straigh men are into cute young girls
lad what are you on about
also
pyw
>>5120953
>If you can't appreciate the superior aesthetic of 3d lolis,
Most of that shit is uggo
2d is ok however

>> No.5120965

>>5120964
learn to crop your screenshots

>> No.5120968

>>5120953
>If you can't appreciate the superior aesthetic of 3d lolis
When the fuck did your type come along? There was always a line separating drawn from real and the preference for 2d on this site, so I'm guessing you're offsite originating.
It seemed to start when people stopped referring loli as loli and started using the word cunny.
Loli has always had an unrealistic way of being drawn that was not anatomically correct, so why would someone that intentionally gives lolis bigger hips and thighs, longer necks and other such things, like the realistic stuff?

>> No.5120980

>>5120968
huh? this >>5117633 looks anatomically realistic to me

>> No.5120981

>>5120968
It's time to stop beating around the bush and admit that your loli style is derived from life. There's nothing wrong with drawing loli in itself but don't be surprised when someone starts talking about erotic child bellies and chests going UOOOOOOOOOOHHHH.

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>>5120968
4chan was always filled with those guys, ever since the early days, everyone knows that, its just that they are being more vocal now then in the past.
Personally idc

>> No.5120986

>>5120965
lol

>> No.5120987

>>5117635
kek. just realized she's actually making one of those cp videos everybody's talking about
alke is truly one of us

>> No.5120989

>>5120987
bruh

>> No.5120991

>>5120980
I didn't bring up his work, I'm mostly talking about Japanese artists and those that emulate them, which is why I'm using the the word loli. Westerners have always had different sensibilities than the Japanese.
>>5120981
>derived from life
What a vague wording, everything an artist draws is derived from life, I'm talking realism vs stylized depictions of people. For example, a lot of people that like anime style, very much dislike more realistic cartoon styles and vice versa.

>> No.5120999
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>>5120991
An anime figure is still a figure just like a figure from life, therefore a loli is still a figure from life despite whatever excuse you come up with style just like bugs bunny is derived from a hare and Micket Mouse a rodent despite having arms and limbs and an anthropomorhpic torso we still call it a fucking mouse because it is developed from one. You are a closet pedophile and just like a closet fag it's always the loudest guy in the room screaming he isn't gay when in fact he is the gayest bottom bitch faggot.

>> No.5121007

>>5120999
You just keep talking in very general and vague ways just to say there is no difference between two different things.
Mickey Mouse does not look like a realistic mouse he's a stylized cartoonish depiction of a mouse, just because you like a cartoon mouse does not mean you like real mice, that's my point.
Your point is because they are both depictions of mice, you can't like one without liking the other, nonsense, some people hate mice but love Mickey Mouse and I'm pretty sure there are people that love mice but don't give a shit about Mickey.

>> No.5121009

>>5120999
>a loli is still a figure from life
>bugs bunny is derived from a hare
why the word "derived" on one and not the other?

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5121010

>>5120999
lol
>>5104528
cooming too much like a fag
Or in general just intrest after looking at EBIC DEEP WEB videos.
I browsed it when I was 14, 4-5 years back due to videos like pic related.

>> No.5121011

>>5121007
god, the mental gymnastics some people do
just fap to some cute instagram 10 year old blonde russian girl already, you know you want it

>> No.5121015

>>5121011
Once again you make no point and just ignore mine, at this point I'm thinking you are an FBI agent trying to entrap someone, if a straight out example as simple as mine you can't even address or acknowledge the slightest bit, you're loony.

>> No.5121020

>>5121015
>at this point I'm thinking you are an FBI agent trying to entrap someone,
I don't think they care too much to entrap a fag on a board meant for drawing.
Dude is just an autist
>>5121011
>just fap to some cute instagram 10 year old blonde russian girl already, you know you want it
My dude, stop get help

>> No.5121024

>>5120999
loli is derived from kids, same as bugs bunny and mm, sexualizing them doesn't make you a zoophile nor a pedo. they are not a figure from life, they are derived from it, you said it yourself retard.

>> No.5121032
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stfu and post more alke

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>>5121032

>> No.5121039

this guy's art is good, shame that its all loli shit

>> No.5121063

>>5121039
i love little girls

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>>5121039
not all of it

>> No.5121074

>>5121032
>>5121033
>>5121070
la goblina

>> No.5121083

>>5121074
nice buzzword. try using it properly next time :)

>> No.5121096

>>5121083
el goblino

>> No.5121130

>>5121011
>fap to some cute instagram 10 year old blonde russian girl
nothing wrong with that bwt. much more aesthethic than the average contemporary american porn

>> No.5121200

>>5120968
>When the fuck did your type come along?
they've always been around, particularly on /b/

>> No.5121275

>>5119109
You have been on the internet for far too long. Take a break. Social norms exist for a reason.
Look it up.

>> No.5121515

>>5120991
>I'm mostly talking about Japanese artists and those that emulate them
Alkemanubis's favourite artist is Range Murata, so he's definitely emulating them.

>> No.5121551

>>5121275
>Social norms
obviously i wouldn't mention my loli fetish irl
i wouldn't even mention any sexual fetish with anybody irl, that would be weird. you're not supposed to discuss this personal kind of shit casually
but i expect freedom of speech in an annonymous internet forum. this is precisely the kind of place to discuss stuff you wouldn't talk with your granny irl

>> No.5121566

>>5121551
Hate to break it to you, the internet is part of real life. The freedom you have to speak in anonymity doesn't mean you aren't still talking to real people. It's not a matter of being normie or not, this type of behavior shouldn't be encouraged and these images shouldn't be passed around as if they have no actual meaning or implication behind them.

>> No.5121579

>>5121566
Few people defend free expression before their own views are challenged. Everyone wants to quash the party of uncomfortable views. It's all born of self-interest and comfort-seeking.

The most selfless thing one can do is to defend the existence of ideas and interests that one finds personally reprehensible, so long as they don't manifest in actions. I would think that has value to artists and other creatives, above all else.
https://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/12/why-defend-freedom-of-icky-speech.html

Not that anon, by the way.

>> No.5121748

>>5121579
Freedom of speech doesn't exist in a bubble. You have to consider the rest of society when expressing yourself.
Having the freedom to express yourself means you're not going to get arrested for having an opinion, which doesn't mean that society shouldn't judge you based on that opinion.
You should still be mindful and respectful towards other people, having the freedom of speech doesn't override the basic rules of how to interact with others.

>> No.5121754

>>5121579
I truly believe that everyone should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others. When it comes to this topic, the line between harming others and consuming this type of content becomes very thin.
I'm not saying everyone who enjoys this type of art is a pedo, but you have to consider that most pedos will enjoy this type of art, which is not something to be taken lightly, and we shouldn't encourage this type of behaviour.

>> No.5121762

>>5121748
That's all very fair, and I don't disagree. People should have the right to control what they see. But this is a thread to discuss the techniques of a prolific loli artist, which sadly got sidelined by the sensitive nature of his work, so I think his work itself is very pertinent to the topic.
>>5121754
The fact that you're conflating pedos with molesters, thoughts with behaviour, does not make for a solid ground. I respect your strong feelings on it, though, and I don't mean that in a patronising way. For some people, this topic hits way too close to home and it's hard to approach it objectively.

At the end of the day, the best we can do is trust that adults have the capacity to separate fantasy from reality, be it in depictions of murder or sexual violence or whatever else. I know trust in that is hard to come by, but for the sake of free expression, it's what we've got.

>> No.5122343

>>5121762
I'm glad we agreed on that and thanks for the link if you're the one who sent it.
Regarding the conflating of pedos and molesters It's really impossible not to. "Art" like the one in question is consumed by this type of people. Not seeing the relationship between those is like saying that someone that buys drugs won't ever use them, or someone that buy guns won't shoot anyone. While that might be true it doesn't apply to everyone. So yes this art is comsumed by people that want/will harm children and that shouldn't be taken lightly.

>> No.5122518

>>5122343
>someone that buys drugs won't ever use them
There's nothing really wrong with recreational drug use by itself, addicts just happen to have underlying issues.
>someone that buy guns won't shoot anyone
False equivalency, consuming loli porn or recreational drugs can't potentially harm others.
>this art is consumed by people that want/will harm children and that shouldn't be taken lightly
You could say the exact same thing about furries and zoophiles,

I don't like loli/shota stuff and I find pedophiles creepy, but you can't possibly deny that there are a lot of double standards going on when it comes to this stuff.

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>>5103740
Not a pedo here, but i enjoy fapping to cute little girls, as a normal fetish
You can see this guy obviously has the same aesthetic sensibilities than me, and his art resonates with me because of that

>> No.5123609

>>5103740
>loli thread with CP gets archived by post limit
pedochads won

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>>5122687
>cunny reading her first porn comic
I never knew an artist can be so fucking BASED