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5092470 No.5092470 [Reply] [Original]

Before anime took off what was the go-to "cute girls" genre? I can't believe that drawing cute girls didn't exist before Japan invented it.

>> No.5092475
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>>5092470
You're very wrong. The 50s had lots of "cute girl" illustration. Asian's don't originate, they see what's existing already and capitalize on it. The west always makes but never capitalize.

We could of had an anime industry but we abandoned 2D in the name of 3D.

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>>5092475

>> No.5092477

>>5092475
>>5092476
This is straight up pedoshit though?

>> No.5092478

>>5092477
Just like anime, isn’t that what you wanted?

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>>5092476

>> No.5092503

>>5092479
Cute post more

>> No.5092506

>>5092503
search 'vintage 50s girl illustrations' into google

>> No.5092553

>>5092477
None of these are even suggestive and you think it's pedoshit?

>> No.5092563

>>5092553
Everyone instinctively understands that little girls are inherently sexual.

>> No.5092564

>>5092563
That's something a closet pedo would say, closet pedo.

>> No.5092579

>>5092564
Goes for >>5092477 too which is my point

>> No.5092617
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>>5092470
Alphonse Mucha and Bourgerau focused mainly on cute girls and became famous for them. This is as cute as you can get in realism.

>> No.5092669

>>5092475
> I can't believe that drawing cute girls DIDN'T exist before Japan invented it
>You're very wrong. The 50s had lots of "cute girl" illustration.

Way to go failing basic reading comprehension.

>> No.5092690

>>5092669
Uhh anon?

>> No.5092696

Japs invented pedophilia? Holy based.

>> No.5092705
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Grown men had wives and jobs, so most children-containing media was directed at kids, not trying to be appealing.

The best you can hope for is Disney with its ugly children, or you could open an exception to Tinkerbell, some furry characters and things like that. Hannah-Barbera is an option, but I wouldn't say Judy Jetson was any epitome of cute and funny.

Reminder that anime didn't really kick in until the 90s, and that's when there was a break from traditional, low-budget Hannah-Barbera animation into Flash/digital. So people posting stuff from the 50s are still not filling the 70s 80s 90s' void.

>>5092475
>we could of
Kill self.
>>5092477
>uptalk
Not a question. Kill self.

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>>5092669
this is ironic, yes?

>> No.5092713

>>5092705
and just how the fuck do you think uptalk is represented when typing? fucking pretentious retard

>> No.5092721

>>5092705
Anime didn't "kick off" because when the west finally realized the hole they dug themselves in by not >>>capitalizing<<<< on childrens cartoons with techniques we already were on the way of perfecting the west was forced to use Jap media to sell kids toys and merchandise for Saturday morning blocks. When they figured out it worked then they were peddling western cartoons that weren't low-budget but it was already too late. Japanese anime was already too dominant.

Greedy hollywood faggots get what they deserve for the last 20 years.

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5092724

anime will never be as cute as this

>> No.5092725

>>5092713
By putting question marks where there should be none. Now go type like a woman on your social media, tranny.

>> No.5092729

>>5092724
I want to like her face

>> No.5092732

There was no need to draw them when it was legal to marry a 12yo

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>>5092470
That was basically the entire art direction of Romanticism in the 1800s.

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>>5092752

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>>5092755

>> No.5092762

>>5092479
I can coom to this

>> No.5092812
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>> No.5093123

>>5092690
>>5092708
Way to go failing basic reading comprehension.

>> No.5093130

>>5093123
anon nobody knows who you are. Just admit defeat and let it go.

>> No.5093144

>>5093130
I am unable to believe you aren't an idiot.

>> No.5093150

>>5093144

You want a kiss? Is that it?

>> No.5093151

>>5092724
False. Next.

>> No.5093154

>>5093150
I came here for an argument.

>> No.5093155

>>5092725
im sure you have lots of meaningful relationships that are emotionally fulfilling

>> No.5093178

>>5093154

Pucker up, big boy.

>> No.5093196
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5093196

Frogs had the bodies on point, but tended to fuck up the faces.

>> No.5093205

>>5093178
Boring. I'll just spell it out then so I can satisfy my autism.

If the OP was JUST the second sentence, the natural interpretation would be the one you are making, that he actually believes Japan invented drawing cute girls and finds that astonishing. However, the preceding question REQUIRES that you interpret it literally -- he's asking about pre-Japan cute girls BECAUSE he "can't believe" (that is, DOESN'T believe) they don't exist. The fact that you see the phrase "I can't believe X" and can only interpret it one way, without considering its context, means that yes, you lack reading comprehension.

>> No.5093213

>>5093205
What the fuck? Anon, he clearly means he can’t believe no other country was doing cute girls until Japan “stepped forward” and lead the world by example. He is asking what was the cute girl style before Anime as if without Japan it wouldn’t exist.

Now stay still and receive my kiss.

>> No.5093215

>>5093196
>literal western moeblob
How did I not know this

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>>5092470

>> No.5093224

>>5093213
>He is asking what was the cute girl style before Anime as if without Japan it wouldn’t exist.
It's literally the opposite. He is asking what the cute girl style was before Japan BECAUSE he's decided it MUST exist. Why would he be asking for something he's already decided doesn't exist? How could you possibly interpret it that way?

>> No.5093226

i can't believe this debate is not over

>> No.5093238

>>5092478
cope

>> No.5093243

>>5093224
That's just all in your head.

>> No.5093264

>>5093243
It's the only interpretation that makes sense. Also it's funny that you say "he CLEARLY MEANS he can't believe" >>5093213 when the meaning of "can't believe" is exactly what's being contested here. Just replace "can't believe" with "doesn't believe" and what you're saying aligns with what I'm saying. He can't believe it, because it's a ridiculous thing to believe. Again, why would he ask "what was the go-to 'cute girls' genre [before anime]?" only to immediately assert that there wasn't one?

>> No.5093266

>>5093215
French cartoons actually had a lot of influence on early anime.

>> No.5093267
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Edmond Kiraz did some pretty good cute girls, pic related

>> No.5093271

>>5093267
Bruh

>> No.5093274

literature

alice in wonderland
oz
etc

>> No.5093291

>>5093264
Yeah alright fine you win the debate, wanna kiss now?

>> No.5093306

>>5093291
Have at it.

>> No.5093310

>>5093306
YAY :3

>> No.5093313
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5093313

*kiss*

>> No.5093630

>>5092708
>this is ironic, yes?

Jesus, you're dumb. OP said there must have been a cute girls genre before anime, and he/she said it in the simplest possible way. At least for the rest of us. You can't decipher a sentence with a double negative? Are you five years old?

>> No.5093737

>>5093219
Oh no bread I'm gonna- I'm gonna UOHHHHHHHHHH T°T T°T T°T T°T

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>>5093219

>> No.5093977

ahhhh girls are so wonderful

>> No.5094013

>>5092477
It's fashion you sniveling retard, fuck you.

>> No.5094354

God I love little girls

>> No.5094718

You let a stupid autist ruin a cute girls thread, you don't deserve to live.

>> No.5094790
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>>5092470
Although failure of imagination is not a valid argument, your intuition is quite correct. Artwork capitalizing on our baser instincts existed as far back as there was market to fill (so always). However most of it was produced after XVIII century because the market really started taking off after industrial revolution with creation of the middle class. Before that, only wealthy were the patrons and only a fraction of those were interested in art for sake of consumption itself.

Subject of youthful and all-round healthy potential sex partners ('cute') is understandable. Though the more interesting question is why anime girls are usually under 15? I find that women in their 20s are *perfectly* capable of being very cute.

>> No.5094807

>>5094790
15 is too old and 20 is overaged. perfect cunny is 7-11

>> No.5094812

>>5094790
Fooled by cosmetics.

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>>5092812

>> No.5094842

>>5092724
Pedophile.

>> No.5094870

>>5094718
Gomennassi

>> No.5094889

>>5093196
No that's just what French people look like.

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don't ask me the source, I don't know

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>> No.5094905

>>5094893
source?

>> No.5094911

>>5094905
>>5094893
Aydemir Saidov

>> No.5094921

>>5094893
>>5094911
Oh nevermind then, he was born in 1979. Interesting subject matter if you google his name, though.

>> No.5094931

>>5092470
Pinup girls to a certain extent. For jerk-off material you probably turned to the Sears catalog underwear section.

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>>5094895
UGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH

>> No.5095239

>>5094893
Just looked him up; he’s like the METART of painters. Not that I’m complaining...

>> No.5095246

God I fucking hate americans.

>> No.5095252

>>5095246
>t.eurobeg

>> No.5095708

>>5092724
cropping out the feet...

>> No.5095909

>>5092475
Absolutely repulsive

>> No.5095921

>>5092478
Got'em!

>> No.5095943

>>5092475
>Asian's don't originate, they see what's existing already and capitalize on it.
The /pol/tard's cope

>can't deny the art is good and better than current american output
>b-b-but "we" did it first!