/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5090748
I feel like I've lost the plot with the reason i even draw in the first place so I'm back to square one sketching without any real purpose. How do I get back on the horse?

Still havent gotten my c&c

>>5091148
"stop tracing faggot" is all critique you deserve

>>5090859
Give yourelf a project, something your heart wil bleed for or always hate to create and finish it, after that the orse will not give you a round-house-kick.

>>5090938
Nice values and forms, but the face i uncanny and needs expression, also your highlights on the legs are missing.

>>5091148
flat colours, not knowing how light is caste on forms, flat colours, flat forms, wrong shading, pillow-shading, e.g.. No truthful rendering of material.

>>5091653
now add a penis

>>5091148
Either her neck is sinking backward or her left shoulder and hip are "floundering" forward

Need help rendering the stone throne, I looked at reference and added those cracks, but it still looks odd to me. I tried a textured brush but it seemed out of place since everything else was done with round brush. The image is not finished but any critique is welcomed.

>>5090859
Either take a break or browse art forums/communities for inspiration.

I picked up my first real "big" illustration job, doing a few A4 color pieces for a kickstarter RPG book.

Technically I have all January to do them but I want to crank out as much as I can early. I'm still very new to painting and want to try and make the colors bright and interesting, which I think is my biggest weakness.

Anyway feel free to pick it apart color, composition, or whatever-else wise. This is by far the most detailed of the three pieces, the others are mostly characters in various poses.

>>5091714
So I have a few questions; Why is the lightsource for everything uniformly below? Like, all of the shadows on the heads point the same direction which doesn't quite make sense because it means you have two bright spotlights pointing towards the center vanishing point from off-camera, and even still that wouldn't produce those sorts of hard shadows since the light would cross. The figure has the same issue, you have shadows on both the left and the right side of the legs, which are brightly lit in the center implying there's a very, very strong green light directly between her feet, which there isn't. But the underside of her foot ISN'T lit the same way which is confusing. The legs can't both have shadows on opposite sides, you have to pick one side or the other. The very harsh terminator on the shadow just above her right knee implies a very close light source, since shadows get fuzzy the farther they are from the light source, but no other shadow on her body has as much of a harsh termination, which makes the overall lighting very confusing.

As for the stone, you don't need that much detail to sell rock texture, but you do need variation. The easiest way to do it is to have different values to break up the surface. Don't use grey, either, use a strong, muted color and then go up and down in value along the surface to give it imperfections and depth. Make the light color reflect on the surface too, to give contrast between the base, shadow, and highlight color.

Pic related, you can do a lot with very little actual rendering.

>>5091783
Thank you for the critique/tips. And I agree, my lighting is shit. I usually only use light coming from the sky so I was trying something new. With this one I also tried to stay aware of the plane changes of the body to give it form but I guess I need to study more. And I had a light source coming from the bottom but it didn't look right so I removed later on. This whole painting was a mess I didn't solve most of my problems during the sketch and got fucked later.

>>5091815
I think the most important thing to understand is that light doesn't "create" shadows. It does, but not in the sense that shadows will just appear on surfaces the light doesn't reach. And shadows aren't universally dark, in fact if you look around your room right now you'll quickly see that there is a such thing as "light" shadows, which are created by bounce and ambient light. Your scene clearly has a sky light of at least some intensity, so that means any harsh shadows created by a bright, close source to the subject will still be tempered by that ambient light.

>>5091827
Damn I wasn't even thinking about the sky light when rendering. Thank you, I will be more aware of that now.

>>5091148
cringe

Does her ear look a little bit too low to you?

>>5091933
The top of the ear should be basically right in line with the bottom of the eye brow. So in this case it looks like it's too low, because the line of her eyelid is above the tip of the ear. Also I think it's too far back, even for a round and oversized anime head. I would probably raise it and also push it in a bit, probably make it a little bigger too.

I'm just kinda lost and overwhelmed here, wat do? My renders always suffer because when I make up my light sources I don't have enough mileage to fully understand em.

>>5091237
Why do /begs/ larp here?

>>5091770
Thumbnail more you dummy

>>5092092
My background elements suck so I pushed them back and raised some of the values on my guy.

>>5092099
If you want to shit on the composition, I'm all for it, but actually do it.

>>5092094
my thoughts exactly

>>5092127
>wings sprouting from ass
kek

>>5091933
wtf is that anatomy!?? /beg/!!

>>5091933
none of the features seem to follow any kind of rule for perspective or foreshortening, yet you're obviously trying to get those effects anyway.
the eye closer to the viewer is smaller than the other when it should be bigger lengthwise, yet you increase the size of the further eye heightwise instead?
the nose is pointing upwards, yet her face isn't nearly that tilted....
her chin is so low, if you erased all of these features, you'd have an entirely different face if you followed loomis to even 1/5 of accuracy

your entire style seems to come from feel, and you aren't taking into account the reason things look "off" because you aren't planning placements in the beginning phases of your drafting

your skill at making things look "good enough" is commendable, but you're definitely getting complacent in your current style.

Any tips on drawing robots?

>>5091933
Love the hair, very detailed
>>5091742
Wow, amazing. Do you have a blog?
>>5091747
The proportions are very off and she lacks joints in her arms and legs.

>>5092585
Forgot pic

>>5091742
Awful shading on the imp's body, flat and has no form. Seems like you had no idea what you're doing and just gave it some random texturing to make it look realistic.

>>5092092
The legs dont follow the perspective correctly.

>>5091679
>
what forums (besides this place) do you recommend?

>>5090859
I think if you enjoy doing these random sketches (which look pretty good btw) then you shouldn't feel bad for falling back on them. Keep sketching and be patient for inspiration to come. You can't force it, art has to be a natural process.

>>5090938
It's subtle, but her boobs have a bit of a pillow shaded effect. The reason for this is that you've made the bounce light/specular light reflecting off the underside of her boobs too consistent.

Tldr, add a bit more shading under her boobs, mainly around the middle

I'm sorry that's confusing, I don't have access to a tablet at the moment.

Working on pic related.

>>5092133
no hes right it would be easier to critique is there were more blocked in shapes

>>5093125
>>5093199
Excellent posting order

>>5090748
I got something new. Came here a few months ago. I really liked the critique. Very brutal and honest but some autist thought I was samefagging.

>>5093488
Shit I just realized I had posted this before.

>>5093720
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>>5093720
half asian, half jewish?

dumb low effort sketches

>>5090748
First time painting with photoshop brushes since CSP got the upgrade. I used Dave Greco's brush pack. DG Main for most of it.

Posted near the end of last thread but its still the most recent thing I've done. I struggle with painting colour so I just resort to flat paint bucket colouring. I also just straight up don't enjoy painting values and layering colours. But I feel like I need to to get to the next level. Any advice boys?

>>5091770
Congratulations, anon!
I called management and they sent me this redirection image. Cheers, see you at work.

>>5093912
Niiice line quality and general form. I hope that as you continue this work, you'll still keep some of the texture/improve the texture that the sketch lines offer, as they sort of allow the eyes to rest and admire the form more. Not sure if you're still taking design recommendations at this stage, but due to the heaviness of the detail all-around, it's still pretty hard to find a place for my eyes to rest, aside from maybe on the head. The stark contrast in that regard sort of hurts the eyes at first ("Where am I supposed to actually look?" I always felt like I needed to be looking somewhere else for detail, no matter where I looked). Maybe colors/lighting could fix this, or adding another very high-detail area to the midsection, or obscuring/blurring less-important areas. Good luck, this looks very cool.

>>5094368
is that bill clinton or alex trebek

>>5094515
turd ferguson

Posted this on /beg/ don't think it belongs there now Lol.

>>5094281
Not bad honestly but it could be better

Quick simplified sketches from ref that I found quite interesting. Not sure if good enough but I'd honestly rather take my chances here than get yelled at in /beg/ lol-

fuck it got nothing batter to do so here's some art i all ways feel horrible about posting art but i can't stop drawing so I'm gonna try.

>>5093896
The ultimate sheckel collector

>>5090748

>>5095009
twinks are just taking over the fucking world now, arent they?

>>5095012
So it seems, so it seems.

Hate vision goggles

I've still got a bunch of people to add to the bg and then I just have to do the girl's clothes and draw animals and bugs and things.

>>5094515
both

>>5095096
are you actually gonna paint the paintng on the back?

>>5094281
meh i think management is wrong original better

>>5095133
Probably not in super detail.
Though i'm debating making the whole picture very high res. Not sure yet.

There's not a whole lot to critique at this stage. This piece will succeed or fail based on your continued execution of the perspective (particularly on the floor) and the lighting, both of which are currently not present.

>>5095176
What do you think about the perspective so far?

It looks better with the perspective grid on, but when I turn it off I get concerned. I tried to go for a slight fisheye effect so you're looking a little bit down at the girls in the front.

>>5094281
Told you you shoulda thumbnailed more enjoy wasting hours

>>5095096
I see a formal baroque party getting crashed by some wild women.
Do I interpret that correctly?

Hey guize working on a character design that might be a big hit. Basically a shaved gremlin. Haven't named him yet but I'll probably just give him a lazy throwaway name like Gragu or Grogo or something. Hope you like it Reddi- I mean faggots!

>>5095713
>lazy throwaway name
Kek and true

This is a Sewer Goblin, he has jet boosters so he can fly fast in the sewers, and a telepathic limb to hold his tacos since he replaced his arms with jet boosters.

>>5095732
Dude that's just a rip off of every other goblin character.
Try to be more original like this guy >>5095713

>>5095732
Soul

>>5095587
pretty much yeah

>>5095096
Very very nice. Your form, perspective, and linework are so solid. I wish you strength and determination in finishing this.

>>5095040
I really like the color choices

>>5095096
Large scenes with lots of people like this are a pain in the ass but you pulled it off well nice work

>>5090748
What is the difference between these threads and every other general thread on /ic/?

>>5090748
First real attempt at doing art without lines(the shading on the body is off i know, will work on it more)

>>5095957
/beg/ = beginner general
/asg/ = beginners focusing in learning anime
/SALT/ = coomer stuff
/draw/ = drawing in general
/alt/ = anime drawing
/dad/ = normalfag shitposting
/fag/ = furry drawing general
/lsg/ = like /asg/, but focused on lolis
/trad/ = traditional drawing
and a bunch of other irrelevant generals

>>5096022
so basically zero difference, got it

>>5091933
What program and device are you using to draw?

Actually, I apologize, I wanted to ask what programs and devices everyone recommends. I wanted to try to get into drawing again and dont know where to start anymore besides my regular pencil drawing and things along that.

I'm not a frequenter from this board. But where should I turn if I wanna try finding someone interested in making character concepts for stuff i'm writing. Some basic descriptions exists

>>5096123
grindr

>>5094278
Adding a single highlight tone would add a lot, I think that flat colors look nice imo.

>>5095998
I like it a lot. Blog?

something I'm working on atm

>>5096164
https://www.instagram.com/akirelll/

wip

>>5094479
Watercolour? Looks cool dude.

>>5096181
>https://www.instagram.com/akirelll/
thanks!

>>5096188
thx bro, nah just blick studio markers and a gelly roll pen for the orange

Work In Progress

>>5094281
I appreciate the input, but I have to follow some specific guidelines, and the client wanted at least two, if not more, carts in the shot to sell the "caravan" scene, and it had to be cresting a hill next to a forest. Hence why I went so zoomed-out. I'm not saying my composition is superior or even that strong, just that I did a few thumbnails/layouts trying to get all that into the image and this was the one I ended up liking the best.

Anyway, I came back to this after some time on another piece and decided to move some stuff around. The size of the horse and dude made the cart look tiny, and I'm trying to fill out the rest.

It's not perfect, but I think it's coming together. I'm just trying to get things balanced somewhat nicely, the rendering is the easy part.

>>5096253
Here's the other piece for this project.

>>5096235
varguy?

Drew that fat pedo Vaush trying to fuck his hairless cat.

>>5094145
Nice continuation from that ref thread. Blog?

>>5096308
Literally who? My name is Jordi

>>5095998

yummy

>>5096253
This looks fucked.

Way too busy.

Start again, thumbnail it more.

>>5096374
Reminder to filter the word "thumbnail"

>>5090748
bye bye richie

>>5094145
dat knee doe

>>5091148
The anatomy is pretty wack if not briefly ignorable. Her body is turned so you can't see almost any of the left side of her face, yet I can see past her belly button and a whole boob? What's happening with the neck? Its apparent that you either traced like someone is accusing you of, or that you drew the arms from reference without thinking how to place the head on top of it. The tummy is a bit of a mess. Try spending more time on construction.

>>5091770
I'm not sure if you plan on creating a source for the orange light in the center, but as is it looks not only artificial but half-committal. Its too subtle as is, but if theres supposed to be a small explosion there that you havent painted in yet, it'll need more oomf depending on where it is in the composition.Also until thats in there I'm ust not a fan of the transitions in color.

>>5092092
Firstly, this is unironically lovely! one of my favs so far. As far as lighting, the effects that a light source have should never be brighter than the light source itself. You'll see this a lot if you watch Corridor Digital break down bad CGI in their youtube series. Its a good rule for noticing bad explosions and stuff. But anyways- back to your stuff.

A lot of the reflections on the metal are nice looking in that they are very bright, but the light sources don't suggest they should be that bright or in some cases, even be there. It is easy to assume there is a soft fill light coming from the front, off camera, that would give the helmet and chest piece a lot of that yellow light. Above and behind the helmet is an extremely soft, billowy lightsource that somehow creates the brightest lights in the piece.

You've got the same issue with the piece on the floor. It is very soft, and should create a similar amount of light on the ground- which I don't think you want. The lefts look very nice as is and just need a light source that'll support it. That can come from some embers sitting behind him, the backside of that magic circle being lighter, or the hand being a magical litght source and adjusting how that light effects the legs. It would need to fill out more on the (our) left leg.

Also, as is, the hands at first seem to come across as being affected by light rather than being a light source themselves. It took me awhile to realize that they should be their own light source.

Also, lighting isn't too difficult to figure out. Watch some tutorials for the more conceptual rules, but you seem to have an ok grasp of light bouncing except you just go a little ham with what you have.

>>5092127
i don't like this :( the overlay effects are really obvious and it only helped in pushing some of your background back and inadvertently fixed some of the lighting around the bottom of the hand and around the legs.

Also, ask yourself how that bright rim light is there behind his rib/under the shoulder piece/above the wing on the left side. It was bright before but now its extra bright and theres almost no light source for that area,

>>5096498
0.0 this is so nice and soft

Is this gesture?

>>5097034
>I'm not sure if you plan on creating a source for the orange light in the center
Yeah, there's some fireworks and shit going off in the scene, but they're on a separate layer. See >>5096253, but I'm working on it. If you have some suggestions for smoothing out the flash lighting while keeping it vibrant, hit me.

anather sketch, maybe I have to fix the colors a bit, but I like the design, Wachathink?

>>5097416
pretty cool

Doodling around and grow to love this little guy here.
It's getting save in my collection forever.

I’m trying out something new, I’m used to doing realism but I wanted to do something more abstract... I came up with this and I already kind of love it... I’m not sure if I should actually fill in the person, or honestly do something similar to the outline.

>>5097416
Kinda reminds me of creatures from ,,Kill 6 bilion demons". Really nice if you wanted to go with that loose, not over-rendered style.

>>5095732
Why tacos as opposed to burritos?

>>5097503
>>5097505
cringe

>>5097520
I'm sorry but you might be lost.
This thread don't allow crabs to be in here.

>>5097489
Thank you anon

>>5097518
Nice reference, thanks, but I'm planning on posing the character and cleaning it up, It will probably loose its loosenes along the way. I will post the progress

>>5096022
>no shota general

Disappointed.

Imagination

I've been inspired by violet evergreen lately.

>>5095998
I love this. Your lighting and rendering are great.

The right knee (her right, so left side of the picture) looks a bit wonky, though.

having some issues with this, any thoughts before i continue?

>>5097416
Nice. It's a shame you didn't paint it in a semi realistic style though.

>>5096253
Based won’t take advice and will never improve poster

>>5098052
There hasn't been any advice posted tho

>>5097541
Ok anon, I will look for it in this thread in the future :)

>>5094084
some people just cant quite get that perfect gondola shape, but you got it just right

>>5097664
lsg stands for loli/shota general, newfriend. how else would we draw /ss/ pairings?

>>5097949
keystone n jaw kinda huge

still lots of refining to go

>>5098563
red line??? thank you

>>5095957
The draw thread is the original drawing/art critique general. It is the baseboard of /ic/ and has been for years and years.

More work on >>5096253

I started cooling a lot of the colors down, trying to mute some of the values and define some contrast on the big shapes a little better. It's not perfect, but I think it's a lot nicer than it was.

Still a lot to figure out, like the outfits on the Goblins and shit, but I have some time.

>>5098816
>listens to no critique of his image
>keep posting progress

>>5098816
Also I forgot to save with the saturation layer since my tablet is more saturated than my monitor. Oh well.

>>5098820
The only critique in this thread was the word "thumbnail".

>>5097754
I like it, very sweet looking. She looks sad.

>>5098736
you might be better off asking someone better, I'm still a learning shitter but I stand by what I said.
that said, my style and actual knowledge is kinda shit so that among other things means I can't redline worth shit sorry bro

>>5098979
thanks dude, I think your portions look better than mine so I’ll edit.
I like your sketch btw. It’s actually suppose to be seteth (fe3h) but I like your interpretation.

>>5098999
thanks, also based fe

/fag/ tourist here, I already posted this in my thread, but my Board is slow so its not the best place for help. Draw thread looks like a better place to be for that. I was hoping to see if I can get anymore critique on this. Thanks in advance.

>>5099026
needs more reflective light on the wolf, especially if the moon is that bright, and the rabbit needs to look at the wold, in my opinion

>>5098816
Get every object in that image to have 3 separate hues. Just slapping black into everything to drive it down the value scale is going to make everything look flat.

Compositionally, that explosion in the center is a dead end. It immediately draws your eye to the center and wont let it leave. I get how you intend to move the eye about the painting, but that explosion isn't helping. Maybe pull the grass up to the base of the forward wagon's wheel and have the goblins snickering behind it, faces lit by the fuse and that light, leading to the explosion behind them which leads up the horse as you intended. Right now, it's not working.

I would try simplifying the piece as >>5094281
suggests and just slap in what you need as a requirement.

Your piece is struggling at a fundamental level and it's important to take care of the foundation of your work because no amount of rendering can unfuck what is currently fucked.

>>5099067
I was constantly wrestling with the wolfs values actually, since the rabbit is supposed to be white, when I turned the image into grayscale, it made no sense that the wolfs highlights were just as bright even though he is grayish.(his name is legosi by the way, its from a manga)

As for the eyes of the rabbit, you are absolutely right on that one, makes it look like its got a thousand year stair. The reason it turned out that way is because the original sketch was done in pencil. The rabbit (haru) was drawn way too big, so I had to shrink her down. I'll see what I can do. Thank you for the feedback.

>>5096315
Thanks. Still no blog. Think I may start one this year, though.

>>5095096
do you use refs for all the faces in different perspectives? If so where do you get references that match your desired perspective?

>>5097693
that face is bogged

>>5096498
fucking TIGHT

>>5095096
I gotta ask, do you draw for a living?

posted this in the last thread and someone said it wasnt finished so i worked on it some more. this is as far as ill take it. thoughts?

>>5096498
nice self portrait and stache steve. didnt know you were painting digitally these days

>>5099224
I've been seeing you a lot lately. You have a really unique artstyle but I'm not completely sold if I like it or not. I definitely don't dislike it but I guess I'm not completely sold. Can you post your personal favourite work you've done?
I feel like its important to say I can see you are technically skilled, no doubt, but there's something I can't put my finger on

Lmk what I can fix. I plan to clean/line this soon

>>5099974
I had a sensible chuckle
I really envy your line confidence

>>5098816
I'm still struggling with composition myself but I think the little fellas on the bottom left could be made larger/darkened to push them as a foreground element

>>5100228
I may be wrong, but I feel like the hand is a bit oversized? It feels large compared to the calf, as if it's closer to the camera, but the calf should be closer to the camera due to the position. Also it may be the armor/whatever, but the shoulder feels very shrugged, as if it's being pulled in and up, it should be more relaxed if she's reaching down.

Other than that it seems like it's doing what you want it to do for the most part.

>>5100238
Oh shit thank you, how's this version looking to you?

>>5100251
forgot the image

>>5100252
I think it's a little better. The shoulderpad is just throwing me a little bit because I can't shake the feeling that I'm seeing planes on it shouldn't be that visible. Maybe it's supposed to be really convex on all sides, but I get the sense that since we're looking from a low enough angle to see the bottom planes of things like those little greeblies on the stomach and shit, we should see less of the top of the shoulderpad and more of the underside of it.

>>5100228
danke

>>5099227
For this I used references sporadically. Faces are easier to draw from certain angles and more difficult in other angles so where I had trouble I used 3d models online to help get a footing. There are a couple people in the bg that I referenced from movies but most of them are just made up

usually I never outright trace or directly copy any reference but for this there are just so god damn many people that I caved in 2 or 3 places.

I use sketchfab for looking at models. Google it, it's a great site for references.

>>5099360
I've worked a handful of art jobs over the last 5 years. Right now I'm at a studio in lithuania.

Doodled this in a few minutes, could an art style with that kind of simplicity (but obviously more thought out and with coloring) hold up for something like a graphic novel or even be sold in prints?
t. never went to fart school and know nothing about the industry

>>5101161
It's tough to say. From a simple line drawing like you have there could lead to literally anything. So the answer is yes... but only if it's good. Sorry that's a vague answer but you're posing a very vague question.

Small studio (8 cm) with gouache before making a larger painting

I mainly draw, so I'm not used to painting so I would appreciate any advice

>>5101161
No, and no it's not "tough to say".
Read the sticky.
Look into art deco era artwork to find the style you're looking for, but that's not something you could do in only a few minutes

>>5101161
And also look up al hirschfeld

>>5101259
>>5101535
Thanks for the honesty guys, I understand the piece I posted may be a bit half-assed for the kind of advice I was looking for. Also I looked up Hirschfeld, he's not really my scene, I'm looking for something more "realistic" regarding style and proportions. When I get the time I may try to post something more elaborate on a thread of that kind.

>>5101610
Real talk, and I want you to give me a real answer; Are you so new, beginner, or just out of touch with everything that you scribble a few lines on a piece of paper in a minute, and then look down at it and say "Holy shit this might be my big break. I might be able to make a ton of money doing this holy fuck"?

I just don't understand. You asked if people wanted to buy prints of a few lines on a piece of printer paper.

>>5101646
i wish i had that high of self steem

>>5097870