/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5075012
$69 for crab-chan

>>5075012
Not my best work, but I got 50 bucks for this.

>>5075031
$20
It'd be $10 buckaroos but not a lot of people are willing to draw lolis in fear of being called a pedo.

>>5075034
i was thinking something around 25~30

>>5075040
if you rendered better and shown more of the bust shot than a bottom view of the head.

>>5075044
yea i just put some cel shading and a diffusion filter to use in my discord profile but i wouldn't sell it for 10 bucks, she is precious to me

>>5075033
that's pretty a good deal, gj

>>5075012
I'm fairly new to "seriously" drawing. This was something for a friend.

>>5075143
Woman

I posted this and I was told it was underpriced. What would be reasonable?

>>5075040
youd be lucky to get 10 for this

>>5075283
i dont know whats reasonable but definitely underpriced

>>5075283
Probably make it a point to charge an additional fee if they add more then one character. You can probably add another 5-10 bucks for color and maybe have backgrounds be 15-20 bucks

>>5075283
Honestly I think you should test some higher prices for a while (if you have enough money to live, in case people turn away).
Like 120$ for full color +40$ for background. If it doesn't work lower the price little by little. Yaoi isn't really my thing so I could be wrong but I don't see a lot of artist for that kind of stuff in general. If you draw for a niche market with this quality, you can ask for more. You may get less commissions but in the end a better pay so it's a win-win. Work less to get more.

how much would i get if i color and polished this a little more, and how much with this quality, sorry for my english, is a second languaje

>>5076470
65-70

>>5075012
who drew the op image?

>>5077115
a dad.gallery user called mrpurin

>>5075012

hell, i saw way worse coomer and furry crap than this that sold for like $20

Don't know if I'd actually ever do them, but I'm curious.

i'm thinking around a thousand bitcoin or more per piece but I dunno

I finally understand why some shit tier artist seethe against me.

>>5077083
ok cool that's what I'm charging

>>5077596
I kneel

I know I'm /beg/ but it wold be nice to make some money while I'm learning

>>5075012
how do you guys sell your art? could you explain it like I'm a complete brainlet, please, I dont even have a twitter account...

I was thinking charging 15 doubloons for a colored piece, I have no idea how to go about pricing but I’m gonna do a lot of research before getting into it. Just want to see if people will even commission me since I’m new to online art communities and am beggart

How much should I charge for something like this? I initially thought 60 bucks but I think it might be underpriced...

>>5075012
I only do trad commissions (oil paint portraiture mostly) and have been consistently increasing my prices as I've been getting more clients. The keys are to start with a relatively low but fair price to you and to USE your clients as free advertising once they receive the work. Eventually you'll have people coming to you left and right. Also trad artwork is easier to sell than digital because it's a one-of-a-kind work. This is where digital falls short, unfortunately, and it's why you won't ever be able to ask for as high of prices for that of trad. commissions (unless you're super famous or something, which you're obviously not to that point).

Also ask for a small upfront charge so you get some money right away. Last thing you want is some guy to cancel on you in the middle of a work and get no money out of it. This rarely happens, but it can. Best to get what you can out of it. This also helps filter out those potential circumstances, as nobody wants to just throw away money without getting a final product.

This is kind of hard to do with coomer art.

>>5075040
i mean it's traced from a 3d model so

This a work in progress, but if I actually went the route of charging for flat colors, how much should I aim for?

How the fuck do I avoid using paypal to get paid for art? These normies don't have fucking bitcoin either

>>5078760
That's what you get for using meme coins as your main currency, retard.

>>5078764
Trust me I don't wanna but I fucking hate paypal

>>5078760
Used Square as an alternative a couple times. Venmo if you know them.

>>5078402

try and make your pricing 'survivable'(not just min. wage) in a developed country+ a couple bucks per 1k watchers. and when you start doing commissions it trends that you'll get more viewership. you're on if above the curve for true beginners

Fellow crabs. Help me. How much do you think I can ask for my art, and more importantly, where can I find someone who would be interested? I blew my coins in a moronic way on school books that I actually didn't need (wrong books) and I am desperate for making any money possible.

I'm just starting out on social media

>>5078831

>>5078832
i won't be taking coms or whatever anytime soon but it'd be nice to know what i could price for just for future reference

>>5078839
You planning to mail people sketchbook sheets?

>>5078885
i have no idea how the process of commissioning functions lol, does it just not work if what you're offering is not digital?

>>5078919
It's a sincere question--how can you estimate a price for a commission when you don't have a finished work to show what you're selling?

First and foremost
>What are you actually willing to draw?
>What can you draw decently?
>Who is your target audience?
>How long does a work take you?
You should always ask yourself this first before trying to decide on a price for your work.

I'm trying to be objective here and judge completely on quality and the piece itself, so don't get your panties in a twist please.
>>5078839
I'd say easily 30+ bucks for starters.
When you start doing less mistakes, and less sketchy work, you can charge way more.
>>5078827
hmm that style is very unique and i don't know what to make of it.
You can try just opening up commission but never undersell. Try to at least get 30 for a piece.
Where? Social media.
But if you're desperate for money; get a job.
>>5078651
I can't say how your finished work would be valued because i don't see it.
15-25 is the anime average for flats.
But It -really- depends on the quality of your finished work.
>>5078432
If people are willing to pay you what you ask for, go for it. You can always change prices depending on clients feedback.
>>5078402
Around 15-25 for such work.
>>5078349
Sure, it would be nice, but focus on getting better first.
>>5077564
50+
>>5077444
28million dollars.
>>5077428
30+
>>5077343
The market's different for each niche.
>>5076470
20
>>5076368
But how is it going to look like when it's finished?
Like this? 20

>>5078839
I'd pay around 30 for stuff like that, between 50 and 60 depending on how you color it.
ask for something like 45/50 and consider lowering the price if the customer starts arguing.

>>5078927
i see.
By "finishing them" i would actively make them worse because I can't colour for shit. i saw people selling sketches/lineart/grey scale on their commision sheets so i thought this was fine. I'm not expecting to make actual income off of these i just thought it'd be interesting to see what people think they're worth

>>5078939
Multiple everything by 8 is my price for each, mostly.

>>5078939
>>5078941
thanks for the input

>>5078950
based big spender

>>5078950
Well, art is subjective, after all.

Don't forget normies find shit from /beg/ to be something they could never do in their lifetime

>>5078944
I'm yanking your chain a little fren.

Your pencil work is very nice, and with some refinement, they could sell for 100+ if you can find people who want pencil drawings of this subject matter (I don't know who those people are--I assumed this sort of character portrait was commissioned digitally). With physical media, it's hard to make it worthwhile unless you're making about that kind of money for a small piece.
>Work on archival illustration board or smooth cold press watercolor paper
>Render clothes and hair with as much care as the eyes and lips (while keeping some of this sketchy looseness)
>Be more careful in avoiding smudges and muddying up your rendering. Loose and sketchy is fine as long as it's done with confidence

>>5078944
Yeah people sell lineart all the time but you really don't wanna miss out on colouring dosh. Colored shit pleases normies alot more than b/w and just adding flats drives up the price tag by at least 10 bux

>>5078981
Lol you got me good
And yeah, all your points are spot on, i do have an issue with smudging and alot of my lines are scribbly and lack confidence. suppose these are things that just improve with practice. thanks for the input
>>5078985
noted

>>5078927
The same way you estimate it for every other commodity : basic accounting and economics.

let's say a guy wants me to draw furry anal vore.
>There's two characters, one is small
>but of course they have rainbow fur and piercings
>Guy wants full color
>I spend 4 hours on this

>Cost of living is 1000 a month
>I get X commissions a month with varying complexity
>assuming a sketch is 1 hour, flat color 1h30 and full textured 3h, I work Y hours a month
>let's say 40
>I need to charge at least 1000/40 = 25 per hour just to break even
>but wait, I get dicked by taxes
>27 ?

At this point, the picture of an anthropomorphic rainbow dog shoving another one in his ass already costs 130 at the bare minimum.

you now want to figure out a margin for two reasons : one, money is fucking awesome. two, X is constantly fluctuating and you want to be able to absorb market fluctuations. Take people working for show business, a sound engineer, lighting technician or the people in charge of costumes make my monthly salary in 3 days, and I send shit into space for a living. But the reason they do is that they sometimes work 3 days a month, and not every month. It's the same for you, you need to account for that according to what you draw.


if you draw basic anime coom, fantasy or other mainstream categories, demand is relatively high and stable, you can get away with a smaller margin and low hourly rate, you'll likely work way more than 40 hours a month.
if you're the anal vore unbirth futa NTR snuff guy, you'll go several months unemployed and need something like 60 or 80% to stay afloat.

so in the end, pricing the example commission at 200$ would make it look like you're a greedy asshole, but would actually be fairly reasonable.

>>5079075
Good quality post

>>5079075
>he thinks there isn't a big market for anal vore unbirth futa NTR snuf furshit

>>5079089
Of course there is. Furfags are probably the only ones who didn't get fucked over by the pandemic making normies less likely to drop 20$ for their waifu while furries are only getting hornier with isolation, but I'm using a niche market for the example.

Now there's all kinds of stuff that goes into pricing, and all kind of black magic to help people price shit in a given market, I'm just too lazy to post about it on the art board.

>>5078939
>But It -really- depends on the quality of your finished work.
What would you say the commission range is now that I've finished it

>>5079237
Don't ask, he has no clue what he's talking about.

>>5078831
>>5078832
>>5078839
You're good but you really need to polish your stuff up. Get your goddamn hand OFF the paper when you're drawing. Put a blank sheet between your hand and the paper, wear a glove, hire someone to spray your face with water or something whenever you do it. No one is going to commission someone who can't even be assed to treat their art appropriately. Also, fixative spray and a scanner are your friends.

>>5079237
Still the same

Do people pay for floating heads?

>>5080416
if it's a floating head of their favourite gacha anime bitch, then maybe.

I have many styles, I do not decide on any

>>5075052
Put some effort then, what you posted isn't worth more than 10 bucks.

>>5075283
To me your stuff is worth +100$. It has some fuck-ups but it's pretty good looking nonetheless.

>>5079906
...Are you kidding me?

God it seems no matter what I price I just can't seem to sell anything recently

>>5080600
learn edge control

>>5080605
softness is for pussies

>>5080607
then don't come here complaining about being unable to sell shit

>>5080587
Read my first post again
>judging objectively and purely on the quality of piece
It's beggish, anon.
No one sane would pay what you want for that.

>>5080608
I want to sell stuff, but your opinion is invalid

>>5080614
no, it still applies

>>5080614
You will never be a W*man.

>>5080618
you will never be less of a faggot

>>5080600
rip
What prices did you try?

>>5080600
>>5080614
I can't tell why based on your work.
It's decent, but maybe stop stating you're a neet and try to be professional.

>>5080627
I tried about 60 to 90 USD and then I also tried the dm me for commission prices kind of thing. I got a couple commissions tho for 75USD but recently its been pretty dry. I've been trying to apply for offers on reddit and still no luck. Although I feel like I was able to get commission s before corona a bit more easily and my skill wasn't as good as now

>>5080631
perhaps that would be a good idea. I've been considering getting rid of that but I've been kinda stuck on keeping the personality or being proffessional. I guess on instagram its hard to have a personality so it might just be better to be proffessional

>>5080631
It's because he isn't making anything sexually attractive. He is not going to sell a thing especially now with all the lockdowns and people being told to avoid each other and with the recent crackdown of pornhub there's a large contingent of incredibly horny people right now looking to get off to a good wank.

>>5080637
you are probably right, but I'm also adamant about not drawing NSFW unless its tasteful. meaning I wouldn't make an artwork with the goal of just making it NSFW

>>5080636
Try to be more approachable without all the quirky personality shit.
NEET is a bad professional word.
And you should try to get more relevant.
Less RTing stuff hoping that the big boys will notice you, because it clutters up your own timeline and people think you're just another spammer and won't follow you. It would work on niptwitter but westtwitter is different.
Also try to make clear what people are in for when they follow you.
Stay consistent in theme and style, both in the art and in what you post i.e. if you draw anime then people are gonna be there for the anime and nothing else.
Don't get it the wrong way, but normies and non-artists don't give a shit studies and sketches.
>>5080637
oh, please, the porn meme isn't that true.

>>5080653
I'll try that stuff although I'm not really active on my twitter rn. I'm focusing on becoming more relevant on my instagram. I'm unsure if I should post more sketches and stuff because its hard to post completely polished artwork on a regular basis. Found that the unpolished stuff gets less engagement.

>>5080663
Try to at least finish a piece once a week.
If you want to post sketches, make another profile for posting and link back to your main.
And you should treat IG like a portfolio.
Only post the decent enough stuff and don't mind being not posting on the regular.
As long as you tag your works appropriately, it should be no problem.

>>5080680
alright I'll try some of that. Thanks

>>5080680
>Try to at least finish a piece once a week.
>Only post the decent enough stuff and don't mind being not posting on the regular.
?

>>5080614
Edge control

>>5080707
that just looked like it removed some crucial realistic shading. made it look cleaner but it made it look flatter. Parts of hair should be translucent to imply loose hairs and whatnot so honestly my reaction to you is just ok retard

>>5078827
that looks like something I'd see in a book about the all time greats, very distinct

>>5080714
Realistic, where?

>>5075012
>Commission Price Thread
Not this shit again.
Kill yourself you RPing faggot.

>>5080716
ok retard

Reminder that if you're /beg/ you shouldn't even bother with commission, most here are /beg/ with polished turds. 30$ is nothing, use that time to improve instead

>>5080705
nice autism

>>5080731
Yep. And no one should ask anyone in these threads for pricing either. The only people that 'price' people are people that do not know the first thing about making a living with art, or how business works in general.
What's more, we have had multiple instances of people in these threads admitting that they are intentionally telling people to price things lower for selfish reasons.

Might as well, even though I'm not expecting anything particularly fruitful.
These take about 3 hours each, including the sketching phase. I was asked by someone once if I did commissions, and I don't, but I'm curious either way, cause I might as well.

Guess the price.

>>5080754
$30? looks like it could of been traced

>>5080735
Since i'm the only one who actually bothered to give anons some feedback, it seems this post must mean me.

Instead of trying to discredit anyone by
>they dont know anything
Why don't you offer better advice instead of trying to shut down any discussion.
I was fair and objective.
Sorry i didn't pander to your dunning-kruger ass.

>>5080758
Still more expensive than your mother.

>>5080754
60? Kind of wonky and suspicous but it does look coom.

>>5080763
>Why don't you offer better advice
The better advice is to ignore people who think they can appraise a piece just by seeing it and instead do the math for how long it takes you to make the piece yourself.
The better advice is to do what actual industry professionals do instead of asking people who have no experience in or knowledge of the industry.

>>5080732
You can call me stupid but explain. Is the one drawing a week just advice to get better faster?

>>5080769
indeed, my mother is a whore unironically. though she gets paid a lot sometimes for weird shit

>>5080776

>>5080776
Every dead commie is one step closer to freedom. You deserve what is coming. I see you.

>>5080772
>"i am a faggot and i cant read"
What do you not understand by
>the piece itself
?
Is this your post?>>5079075
because this is mine>>5079084
>>5080775
Finish a piece means to see your work through even if it turns out shit.
Posting the decent stuff means not posting the shitty pieces and stay coherent with the quality of your other works.
Also, no, you won't get better faster. There is no shortcut.
Go draw.

>>5080776
I once asked her to eat her own shit, she did it for free

>>5080783
Medicate yourself immediately.

>>5080786
she does dom stuff. I think someone payed her 1000 canadian buckeroos to cook for her and her boyfriend. basically paying my mom to simp for her and her boyfriend

>>5080788
post her milf pussy, faggot

>>5080787
The only way for the free world to be reborn is to remove commies.

>>5080790
>>5080788
>>5080787
>>5080786
gtfo my board you non-drawing thread derailing faggots

>>5080795
Blame the fishman

>>5080795
I already posted my work mfer not my fault if you're not responding to it.

>>5080795
hey at least theres someone talking. plus I was talking about art earlier

>>5075283
Prices in USD:
$80 per character
+$50-$70 per additional character depending on how much is showing.
Simple background: +$5 (like the bottom pics)
Complex background: +$60 (like top pics).
Tip: make sure once you get a sketch done that they pay you for the full image. Use an invoice on PayPal and add in that payments are non-refundable in the additional details box as well as other ToS stuff you want to add.

>>5080802
Until your whore mom showed up, still no booba

>>5080751
>I'm not expecting anything particularly fruitful.
Good mindset for this thread desu
I don't know much about pixel art comissions but I'd say 60+ because they look pretty professional. Maybe you could get more though.
What's your workflow for pixel art?

>>5080813
60+? Shit dude, that's a lot, I was thinking like 20 at most
My workflow, usually
>sketch the design on paper until I'm confident that I understand it three-dimensionally
>draw a finalized sketch in whatever pose I'm going for
>sprite over it
not much to it

>>5080838
Well, I can't say how many people you'd get with higher prices.
But they do look really good and you should try for at least minimum wage if that seems too high for you.

>>5080857
I'll keep it in mind if I ever happen to do commissions

Was this worth 60$ or did I overcharge, client said he loved it, but you can never know when people are lying and trying to look friendly on the internet

>>5080870
How long did you work on that?

>>5080870
He’s lying or fucking stupid.

>>5080889
200$+

>>5080890
Less than half an hour
>>5080891
Yes, but he knew I only do these, my page only have art in that style. I usually charge 10$ for them, but I wanted to try getting more and it worked, at least I hope it worked and he really liked it for its price

>>5080889
>Buffalo Bell
Very nice. Blog?

>>5080900
>just a quick simple lineart sketch
>get 60 buckeridoos for it
keep doing it desu

>>5080904
https://twitter.com/SMadikk/status/1341260597665685504?s=20

>>5080904
>>5080912
samefag

>>5080785
This post is a clusterfuck.

>>5080913
keep dreaming bro

>>5080714
You're probably not selling anything because no one would ever want to talk to you

>>5080952
bitch you're on 4chan

>>5080953
Most of us have the good sense to be an asshole anonymously though.

>>5080972
pussy

>>5080600
God, /ic/ has 0 creativity

>>5081045
anything original is cringe

consume

>>5080600
Draw that girl making ahegao face and someone will buy it

>>5081055
I'm not paying you to google random shit and draw it in """"""your style""""""", twitter is full of those, reddit is full of those, even /ic/, fucking christ you bunch can't come up with new ideas, no wonder you all can't even make more than 10$ per hour of work

>>5081063
because people don't really like "creative" things. If that were the case art would be a lot more abstract

Don't think that i will ever be brave enough to start posting on my twitter acc again or mb post anywhere else but still interesting howw much money would you pay for my shit.

>>5081064
Said the stupid struggling with commission work, I'll just ignore what you say here, you sure know what you talk about

>>5081063
But you're paying me to either do porn fanart of draw your shitty titty monsters """""ocs""""" which are the antithesis to creativity.
Bet if i show you something original you'll think its bad?

>>5081072
I really doubt you have something original to show

>>5081072
>>5081075
I've been lurking here every now and then enough to be pretty sure you don't

>>5081065
That right painting is too blurry for me to really want it that much. Everything besides the crucified knight looks unfinished. If I were willing to buy it I'd say 120.
That left one looks cool. $150. Possibly more if thats just a crop.

>>5081075
>>5081080
You wont get it because you suck at art

>>5081085
This is on every art website when sorted by new

>>5081091
>he doesn't get it
imagine my shock

people don't really care about creativity unless you are already famous. If you check a lot of big art instagram accounts. they tend to start with something very cookie cutter and then branch out into stuff that's just on their minds. Often find that more creative or dynamic things don't do as well as simple things on instagram because normies exist

>>5081094
Well, if I don't get, others won't, losing commission money seems fun to you

>>5081098
maybe you need to lurk more, newfag

>>5081101
Or maybe I need to find a better place to get art, congrats on being dumb

>>5081105
post your work

>>5081106
I don't draw, never said I did, why would I need to draw to pay someone to make drawings?

What would something like this go for?

>>5081110
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>5081111
>pregnancy

>>5081111
350-450$

>>5081113
You think people paying you knows how to draw like a professional artist? The state of this thread, I'm done here, I hope I never meet you from the social media thread either

>>5081111
damn pretty well made although wtf

>>5081113
>>5081113
You think people paying you know how to draw like a professional artist? The state of this thread, I'm done here, I hope I never meet you from the social media thread either

>>5081110
Imagine my shock

>>5081128
this is a board for artists
gtfo my board, you non drawing autist.

>>5081111
>>5081117
Wrong, 600$ to 3k if you meet the right people

Price?

>>5081134
bro wot. are your friends with degenerate jeff bezos

>>5080609
>It's beggish, anon.
>No one sane would pay what you want for that.
I give up

>>5081191
I would be happy if I paid $40-50 for that finished version. And even then I think you’re close to being able to charge more after some practice

>>5081138
120-150$

>>5081191
Just keep drawing and learning and you'll improve, fag
If you want money, get a job.

>>5081191
Again, this guy is a moron and not one of his prices is correct. Ignore him.

>>5081231
>>5081247
Why are you desperately trying to gaslight him into staying bad?

>>5081252
Why are you desperately trying to contribute to the problem of artists universally undercharging for their work? I can only assume you don't actually draw and just want to get cheap commissions.

>>5081231
>>5081245
>>5081247
cope.

>>5081267
>t. poorfag

>>5081267
really strengthened your argument there bud

>>5081260
First, i'm not doing that by telling him he should strive to get better before even thinking about making money.
Second, why are you still on my board?
Third, gtfo my board.

>>5081289
If this were your board you can just ban me, no?

>>5081300
So you basically admit you're still the same non-drawing retard and you're doing this to make drama

>>5081305
Who?

>>5075298
>>5075307
>>5075362
>>5080471
>>5080805

Thanks for the advice everyone!

>>5081289
Who cares how it looks, your work is worth as much as people are willing to pay for it. If someone wants to give him $600 for a stick figure, you want him to say "sorry, but this is worth no more than a dollar". Hey retard, the only person benefiting from that attitude is the person who got a drawing and still has $599. This proves to me yet again you are literally not an artist and are just trying to scam people.

>>5081433
If you're an artist you actually care how your shit looks.
Stop fucking trying to get the begs to overcharge, you fucking psycho.

How much for something like this?

>>5081579
woof woof :)

>>5081231
>>5081245
>>5081247
Thanks anons. I'm pretty new at learning how to scale commission prices, so I almost genuinely thought that $30-$40 would be too much to price my work. At this stage, it probably is and aiming for something within the $20-$30 range would likely be better

>>5081674
Don't listen to the retard undercutting. 15-25 is a joke for what your finished piece looked like. I agree with the person saying 40-50. Base it on how many hours you spend on it though x at least minimum wage.

Also, none of us know what we're talking about so don't take this thread seriously.

COMMISSION IS NOT THE SAME AS BUYING ART
You retards are suggesting prices that are more consistent with buying prints than commissioning art.

>>5081674
Yeah, I'm not too sure either. Definitely going to do more research on pricing. Thanks anyways though

>>5081973
Meant to reply to >>5081841 instead of myself rip

>>5081134
t.

I’ve only gotten commissioned twice for coom art.

>>5081973
Get "Pricing and Ethical Guidelines", it's everything you'll ever need.

>>5081458
>wants artists to make less than minimum wage
>calls others psychos
Kill yourself.

This is everything I've done recently that I consider finished squashed down to less than 4 MB
I've never even considered doing commissions before because I genuinely believe my work isn't good enough to warrant it, but I also know that objectively that's kind of stupid and irrational.
I'd charge maybe 15 bucks? 20 maximum?

>>5082389
Estimate how long it takes to make a certain image, then multiply that by your desired hourly rate. That's how much to charge.

I need money or my mom is going to sent me to work in the salt mines

>>5081588
That's not a price ):

I'll bite. I sell stuff already but I'm interested in what people on here think it's worth

>>5081111
>bird
>pregnancy
Mildly autistically bothered.

>>5082534
It's a big egg.

How/where does one meet commissioners that are ready to pay 150+ per commission?

>>5082523
Looks really good, I imagine you're not just selling commissions to people on the internet so I figure it's quite a lot.

pls rate

>>5082551
Anywhere adults frequent.

>>5082523
Selling an original is completely different from doing commission.

>>5082541
How did it get fertilized?

>>5082719

Not that guy but the thread says >Post your works and anons will advise how much you can ask to sell for.

I don't see your point.

>>5082744
It didn't she is a chicken

>>5082749
Read the title of the thread then think about it real hard.

>>5082775
Nothing says that anon isn't working with commissions

>>5078454
it isn't
baka!

>>5082799
prove it

>>5082781
Retard.

>>5082811
Good argument, I totally believe in you

>>5082812
What is there to argue? Anon asked about selling, I pointed out that selling is different from commission, you then said "Yeah well this thread isn't just about commission!", I pointed out that it is, then you replied with "Well how do you know he isn't talking about commission??".
So: retard.

>>5082815
What makes you think I'm "Yeah well this thread isn't just about commission!"?

>>5082816
What makes you think I care? Either you are that retard or you're another retard.
Given your plausible deniability act, I'm inclined to think you are, but regardless you should kill yourself to raise the average IQ of the world.

>>5082826
You're the one accusing me saying something I didn't say, get your shit together

>>5082829
Retard.

>>5082839
Good argument, you are pretty convincing

Just a reminder that you can all double your prices for furry porn.

don't chat, rate unrated works

>>5082843
you do it

>>5082857
nothing in this thread is sellable

>>5081111
>>5082876
you're full of shit, fuck off scrub

>>5075012
sold this for 25

>>5082876

pyw

>>5082888

You're undercutting yourself. It's nothing amazing or special but $40 would be reasonable.

>>5082898
You all ppl talk as if it's easy to sell art

>>5082930
he doesn't know

>>5082941
I have no idea where to go to find buyers

>>5082898
hmm i might slowly bump up the price soon but for now a jump towards 40 from 25 might be a lil too much

>>5082946
where do you even sell something like that?

>>5082945
how many normies interested in art you have contact with?

>>5082949
what? why?

>>5082945
this.

>>5082841
See
>>5082815

>>5082952
that's how you get commissions consistently, be it from random communities, streamers, dnd groups, bored IT worker, etc

>>5082956
that anon never said he wasn't selling commission work

>>5082960
see
>>5082839

>>5082963
?

>>5082959
Let's assume I just woke up from cryogenic sleep and have no contacts.
Where do I start?

>>5082968
how do you make friends?

>>5082965
see
>>5082811

>>5082970
I don't, I have very few friends and I have no idea how I did it.

>>5082971
Stop spamming this thread, are you that dumb that you keep failing for the same bait? FFS

>>5082978
>stop trolling me!
>also I'm trolling you!
R e t a r d .

>>5082971
i don't understand you, can you explain your argument further?

>>5082948
just get yourself out there i suppose and let people know that you are open for commission. thats the advice i got and it worked for me

>>5082983
see
>>5082971

>>5082974
smol tolk, and similar interests, in this case art should be one of them

>>5082985
>out there
where

>>5082986
what, why are you quoting someone quoting another someone quoting "retard"?

>>5082991
see
>>5082986

>>5082992
can you stop this nonsense now or not?

>>5082989
any platform where you can advertise your stuff?

>>5082997
see
>>5082992

>>5082568
so, how can I charge?
>40$, it's whatever
>20$, it's bad
>don't, go back to studying

>>5083000
your art, your price

>>5083003
I would do it for 30-35$ if I could find buyers

>>5083006
just remember that if you change the price later those buyers will think you're greedy, start high for your own sake

>tranny jannie loses an argument and gets his feelings hurt
Hearty kek

>>5083010
I am not worried, I will update prices when I upgrade my art. I think it's mediocre roght now and anyway I am clueless about how to find clients

>>5083026
No he's right. Underselling early is a huge mistake.

>>5083020
what argument? calling others retard over and over again, you sure were good at that

>>5083036
Note that the posts calling you a retard weren't the only ones deleted. Now why would that be?

>>5083040
are you a newfag or what?

>>5083036
Not him but if that's the case every other thread that contains posts with retard would have to be deleted as well. CLEAN IT UP JANNIE. STOP RETARDING YOUR JOB.

>>5083045
it was for spamming

>>5082998
Like Instagram and Reddit, or something better?

is there some kind of thing where some of you clowns tell people that most the trash being posted would actually sell for the ridiculous prices you're stating? like trying to think they are good enough so they never improve and stay fucking terrible? most of this shit is fucking awful and none of it will sell in your shitty barely a beginner art styles (if you can even call it a style.) stop blowing smoke up these noobs asses you fucking scumbags.

>>5083043
Been here longer than you, and I'll still be here after you join the 41%.
I notice you dodged the question too, why is that?

>>5083046
If it was, then only the spam posts would have been deleted. Keep seething, it makes me rock hard.

>>5083050
because spam gets deleted the entire post from your ip in the entire thread, there, your question answered

>>5083049
>think they are good enough so they never improve and stay fucking terrible?
That's the whole point.

>>5083055
Cool theory, except my other posts in the thread are untouched.

>>5083049
I like that attitude. pick an option.
>>5083000

>>5083069
i wouldn't know that, the last posts of yours i see here is the one telling someone to kill themselves for rping from a day ago

>>5083073
lol good job outing yourself

>>5083076
outing for?

>>5083077
Gee I wonder.

>>5083078
do you even know what 4chan x is or even warosu? or are you assuming that because i can see deleted posts i'm a jannie, because i'm not, just to be clear so i don't get banned for staff impersonation

>>5083080
Sure thing buddy.

>>5083086
stop newfagging that hard

>>5083047
truth be told i dont know. i walked straight to /aco/ and just got pms

>>5083073
So you're the nigger that keeps deleting every time I post my work, tell me why do you have a bias towards others? Is it because I've hurt your little fee-fee's in the past? Was it because I told you that you will never have a real Vagina and are not a Woman? Fucking get over it, you hold a grudge like a vindictive bitch and go on a power trip against anyone posting content you don't like and this is why nobody likes you.

>>5083087
see
>>5083050

>>5083091
i'm not a jannie, let that be clear
>>5083093
what question?

>>5083089
pms on 4chan?

Heeeh omoshiroi

>>5083114
What is so interesting, did I miss something? Is the 10$ fag back?

>>5083096
Can't read?

>>5083104
YES

see how i wasn't a jannie?

>>5083120
No.

>>5083119
will do.

>>5082422
isn't this just the response to literally every single post in the thread

>>5082534
My kind of guy. Bird "furries" are the most deluded by giving their birds more than one hole.

>>5082541
For her.

>>5083450
Yes. These threads are completely pointless for that reason.

I won't be drawing anytime soon due to a broken finger, but for future reference, how much should I expect for a piece with about this much polish?

>>5083786
How long did it take you to make it?

>>5083914
In 3 sessions for the sketch, lineart, and color, probably around 12 hours, due to me being slow because of my slight essential tremor

>>5083926
Then multiply 12 * an appropriate hourly rate.

>>5075033
I got 25 dollars for this more a 10 bucks tip. Furries are full og money uh?

>>5080900
That's great money. Too bad most people aren't retarded enough to be overcharged so badly.

>>5080707
The op does need edge control, but so do you lmao

>>5084415
Why would I work more than 5 minutes on someones shit for free

>>5075040
I think $25-30 is ok. I mean you can charge whatever you want. It's YOUR art.

>>5084003
>an appropriate hourly rate
Which is how much?

>>5075283
Ok, let's say that I wanted 3 characters fucking in front of the Louvre in full color. According your own price chart that would be $55. Now think about these questions:

>How long would it take you work that?
>Would $55 be enough to cover all that work you would put into it?

>>5084627
Look at typical hourly rates for other professions that require training and skill and decide from there. I would personally recommend not going under $20/hr.
Whatever you do, make sure you aren't working for below minimum wage like what so many people ITT are procing themselves and others at.

>>5084636
pricing*

>>5079075
>if you draw basic anime coom, fantasy or other mainstream categories, demand is relatively high and stable, you can get away with a smaller margin and low hourly rate, you'll likely work way more than 40 hours a month.
>if you're the anal vore unbirth futa NTR snuff guy, you'll go several months unemployed and need something like 60 or 80% to stay afloat.
>so in the end, pricing the example commission at 200$ would make it look like you're a greedy asshole, but would actually be fairly reasonable.

This is great advice and this is so true. If you specialize in something or are very niche that means you can charge more than someone who does more 'mass merchy' things, because you are harder to find. Anyone who seeks you out in particular know that your type is harder to come by and are usually more willing to shell out the money to work with you. Also, you don't get hit up as often so you have to account for that and your prices need to reflect that otherwise you are better off get a McJob at that point.

>>5080600
I am not going to say that this has any bearing on you getting commission work or not, but this is just something I noticed about your art. It is nice, but it seems like this piece: >>5080632 looks dirty. In fact these, too: >>5080600 >>5080614 they are looking a bit dead in the color department. I am going to suggest learning some color theory and then go outside so you can actually see color in all its glory and practice painting it. Even when you copied this piece: >>5081045 you maybe should have also studied the artists' choice in color a little bit more and applied it to your own work.

I mean there are times when work gets a little sparse which is why you have to charge enough to cover for that. Again, I am not saying this affecting your ability to get commissions, but I do think it would be a great thing to practice while you are trying to drum up more work.

Good luck.

>>5080452
Rather than commissions maybe you should seek out an agent to see if you can do children's books instead?

I have no idea how much this would be worth. What do you think?

>>5084754
Focus on improving for now instead of looking for commission.
Once you're a little more confident in your ability to draw, just charge based on the estimated time it will take you to do a piece.

>>5084787
Thank you, I indeed need more practice, digital is new to me (on top of me being beg that is).

Im looking to buy some pages sketches to throw in a book Im gonna publish this summer. What would be a good price for something like that?

>>5085147
What, an artbook? Just look at what other artbooks sell for and compare the pagecounts.

>>5085154
not an artbook, just a book with illustrations. They dont have to correspond with the written pieces and sketchier art is preferred, figured I could just purchase people's sketches from them.

How much?

Character design

>>5078760
i hate paypal as well, but bitcoin just isn't mainstream enough for it to be used like that.

How much for this?

>>5085326
Character design is the least of your worries

>>5085174
With more than 1k followers I’ll say around 35-50
>>5085517
I feel if you cropped the face you could sell it decently around 30$ but the rest of the body isn’t as polished, if you render the body the same quality as the face you could sell drawings 50-70$ Or even 90-100$ if you have enough followers

>>5085517
Is the face made by an AI? Suspicious hair.

>>5085696
Shut up retard.

how much for this?

>>5085700
yeah, what's so suspicious about it?
>>5085696
I know the hands are bad, but what else should I do to polish the body?

>>5085723
It's great, but I don't see a market for this. Good luck on getting more sopa de macaco.

>>5085723
>flat head
Lolmao, not even for free

>>5085726
Lines and shading are warped at some places.

>>5085728
i'm not brazilian kek

>>5085739
looks like a tranny, also this pic has negative appeal and I blame the dead expression with the trany face, despite all that I think its worth 30-40 freedom tickets.

what u think...

>>5085945
generic beg animu shit, is worth nothing.

>>5085945
$20 - 25? It has charm, I'm sure there are people who would pay for it.

?

>>5085717
What’s wrong with my guess? Am I over pricing or underpricing?

>>5086246
Why are you guessing?

Please, /ic/, answer me this.
I noticed that the price adviced here is higher than places like fiverr, where you can find good artists for 5 dollars. I was planning to open an account and undersell my art but I'm not sure anymore.
Why is there such a price difference?
I was planning to start selling my service for $5 but this thread tells me that minimum it's worth $30-60

>>5081045
Those are both based off a pretty well known album cover lol

>>5086622
90% of the value of your art comes from finding an audience willing to pay for it. Fiverr artists are cheap because they don't want to put in that work, so they're in a race to the bottom price-wise competing with swarms of others. Establish a follower base on any decent platform and you'll be able to sell commissions for the prices quoted in here; don't put in that work and you shouldn't expect to be paid for it.

>>5086622
Some people are third worlders living with no minimum wage, others are not.
Some people have no confidence in their abilities or self respect, other people do.
Some people think they're lucky that anyone cares enough about their art to want it in the first place, other people recognize the value of art and know that there exists a market that is willing to pay a living wage to a skilled artist.
Some people have no foresight or ability to delay gratification, others do.

>>5075012
gem