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This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware: non-display graphics tablets, pen display tablets, portable tablets and more.

>What should I buy?
State your:
>Budget
>Location
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
>Size (in inches)
>Other information
>Previous equipment

If you have any additional questions, ask them.

>Recommended tablets:

Intuos 3 - Best budget tablet.
Intuos Pro M - The best non-display tablet.
Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite - Budget portable display tablet. Very solid drawing experience with Wacom EMR tech.
Used iPad Pro 2nd Gen 12.9" - Best option for a display tablet.
Used Cintiq 22HD - The only worthwhile large display tablet
Galaxy Tab S7+ - Good premium alternative to an iPad Pro

>Avoid:

XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand - Poor build quality, lackluster pens, bad tilt, struggles to register light pressure, horrible customer support and the displays are not calibrated. All Chinese brands are basically the same because they're all centralized. Also watch, Chinese companies shill HARD on /ic/. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
Cintiq Pro - Terrible value. The drawing experience might be good, but you're paying way too much for an unreliable product. Dead pixels are frequent, as are black screens of death.
Microsoft Surface Pro - The N-Trig digitizer means you will always get wobbly lines.
Lenovo - Bad drawing performance.

Previous: >>5053383

>> No.5075305

i lost my apple pencil yesterday im so sad.

>> No.5075405

>>5075263
Are used to be a hard-core PC with the welcome screen tablet zealot. Recently I bought a used 2018 iPad Pro and it really surprise me how good it is. Everything about it is better than a cintiq. I hope Apple decides to make a 20 inch iPad Pro it will change the game.

>> No.5075409

>>5075405
Oh my God Apples text to speech is so bad.

>> No.5075414

>>5075409
Take a bite out of Apple and then try it again.

>> No.5075427

>>5075405
To sum up what I said in English I got a 2018 iPad Pro and it is amazing. Everything about it is better than a Cintiq. I have been doing this for a long time And I am certain Apples mobile hardware is the future of all digital art. Not only is the digitizer and the stylus better but the hardware with its arm chips and it’s complete mobility make it so much more practical than a giant screen chained to a desk. Drawing feels better than any Cintiq I’ve used And procreate is also better than Photoshop. It is smarter and more paired down and doesn’t have 20 years of crap to make it fat and bloated.

>> No.5075476

used ipad pros are too expensive, i already have a screne tablet, i jsut want something that i can sketch on while on the go/outside, does a regular ipad work?
i got like 400 dollars

>> No.5075505

>>5075476
Yes it works but they only have 32GB of space. That's enough if you're only drawing and regularly move stuff to your PC via iCloud / drive though.
Get a 2020 model they have the A12 which is significantly better than the A10 (2019 model) which feels sluggish.
300 for the iPad and 100 for the pencil then get a screen protector and extra nibs.

If you can find the iPad Air 3 for 300 that's also an option and it has a better display (laminated).

>> No.5075531

oh, hey, iPadfags
paperlike - worth it, or waste of money? I got something with a mild bit of texture in the mean time, but am curious.

>> No.5075543

>>5075531
i went from a tempered glass protector to the matte paper like surface and i like it though it seems like it 'wears down' after a while

>> No.5076076

>>5075427
having to pay a subscription just to use CSP makes mobile devices inherently inferior.

>> No.5076111

>>5075531
I didnt get paperlike but there was something similar for cheaper i got and have been using for a few years. Makes the screen a teeny bit blurry but its better than drawing on glass.
>>5076076
Thats why you go shopping and find something worth it.
Switched from ADSB to Procreate and now I'm on Medibang cause its free and basically the same as CSP just less assets.
Its not a problem if you're actually drawing rather than gathering shit to make it LOOK like you draw.

>> No.5076133

>>5075531
If you get a screen protector, buy it from best buy or the apple store so they can install it for you. They are a nightmare to install yourself

>> No.5076145

>>5076111
>now I'm on Medibang cause its free and basically the same as CSP just less assets.
The brush feels way different. COP'S brush moves color around in a way thats real comfy.

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5076573

Wanted to get into drawing and want to get this for Christmas.
Thoughts?

>> No.5076637

>>5076573
Not worth the money

>> No.5076667

>>5076573
Useful for me. I like it.

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>>5075263
how is the galaxy s6 lite?
it's like 300$ and only a little smaller than the s7+

>> No.5076695

>>5075427
Do you ever hit a limit with it, where you have to go back to a PC + tablet for certain projects?

>> No.5076906

>>5076695
>asking someone who loves an anti-experimentation device if they like to experiment

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5076976

>>5076573
I see that's $80 before shipping on Amazon. Unless you really need wireless for some reason, get a Huion HS611. It's on flash sale until Dec 23 for $60 and free shipping in their official site, and it's a lot more features for the money.
You get more express keys, touch bar, and multimedia keys.
While Wacom is certainly superior it doesn't matter at that price caliber because you're getting cut down versions of their own technology. For example, that pen doesn't have an eraser.

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5076977

I'm beginning to think that the rubber at the bottom of my intuos pro is beginning to melt

>> No.5077001

Is cintiq 22hd the only good large tablet?
Any alternatives? Should I risk it and get one of em chinese brands?
I saved a lot for Christmas that I can afford a full price Wacom and I'm scared I might buy the wrong one

>> No.5077004

>>5077001
If you have enough money buy a wacom, if not go for a chinese brand. However, wacom quality control is also godawful so you should check for all sorts of flaws like lightbleed the instant your tablet arrives. And if you are going to give up art in like a week, forget about buying an expensive tablet or even a display tablet

>> No.5077015

>>5077001
If you have enough money for a Wacom then go ahead with the Wacom.
>Should I risk it and get one of em chinese brands?
I don't know, but what I do know is that if you're going to go with an alternative, try XP-Pen if possible, as I know this YTber uses their products as daily drivers:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCObfIFcPxDOsyNXTG3ISyBg
He's not your average reviewer who shills when receiving free tablets then goes back to using their Wacom.

>> No.5077086

Bought a 12.9 iPad Pro on Black Friday. It cannot be overstated how vital the portability is. I am drawing/painting more than ever because it is so tiresome to be glued to my Cintiq on my desk.
One thing to consider is that the fact that you can take this thing outdoors and to coffee shops to draw and paint improves your quality of life so much. Sometimes people will see you painting and just approach you and say "wow you did that??" (if you're actually good) and start a conversation. Now you can use your primarily introverted hobby to meet new people.

>> No.5077093

>>5077086
>Sometimes people will see you painting and just approach you and say "wow you did that??"
How many of these people are female, in your experience?

>> No.5077136

>>5076976
>Huion HS611
No, it's chinese garbage.
>It's on flash sale until Dec 23 for $60
Not a real sale, Zhang. Inflating the prices and marking down for a discount is chinese anti-consumer practice. Get with the times you idiot.

>> No.5077139

>>5077015
>He's not your average reviewer who shills when receiving free tablets then goes back to using their Wacom.
You are such a desperate chink shill LOL

>> No.5077142

>>5077093
Half and half I guess. People of all ages. Maybe slightly more women just because of the things I draw (animals and portraits) and that women in general seem to be interested in the arts (like 70% of the people in my art classes at university were female), especially the women who hang out at coffee shops.

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5077531

I know it says to avoid buying a cintiq pro but is there any tablet thats similar to the cintiq that i can purchase? Are they really that bad?
>Budget
around 2000
>Location
America
>Type
Display
Sorry for the newfag question

>> No.5077541

is it worth going for a display tablet at a budget of $300-500 kangaroobucks??

>> No.5077562

>>5077531
Just go with the Cintiq Pro. It might be bad value but it's still your best option by a mile.

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>>5077136
Ahw, schizo thinks his opinion matters again

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>>5077136
>>5077139

>> No.5078081 [DELETED] 

Is it still a good idea to get a samsung tab s6 lite?
Should i wait for the s7 lite instead?

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5078226

planning on getting a display tablet after christmas, any reccomendations?

> $300 - $500
> California
>display
> anything between 19x12 to 25x15
>nothing at the moment
> huion inspiroy H640P

>> No.5078232

>>5077531
>but is there any tablet thats similar to the cintiq that i can purchase?
There are large display
tablets from both brands if you don't want to spend the whole $2k:
You can get the Artist 24 Pro for $770 from XP-Pen
https://www.storexppen.com/buy/artist-24-pro.html
Or the Kamvas Pro 24 from Huion for $900
https://store.huion.com/products/kamvas-pro-24
Both are 1440p

>> No.5078251

Anyone have the 2020 Kamvas 13?
What do ya think?

>> No.5078270

>>5078232
>chinkshit
>actually linking the store pages
Hot garbage. You're an idiot, Chang.
He has enough money for a Cintiq Pro 24. He has no reason to buy objectively inferior trash.

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>>5078270
>schizo
>thinking his opinion is worth something

>> No.5078341

>>5078270
I know, but he asked for alternatives.

>> No.5078438 [DELETED] 

bump>>5078081

>> No.5078448

Went and bought the Wacom Intous Pro. Didn't like it at first but after aligning the tablet and the screen, my strokes started to make sense and it started feeling better. What are some other tips and tricks with digital tablets and screenless tablets I should know? I use about 3/4 of my pad area since I found my screen big and I also have a it in a laptop stand so it's at a even more comfortable angle.
I have not removed the plastic covering on it since I want to protect the surface until the rough paper like screen protector comes back in stock. Also where to get nibs?

>> No.5078453

>>5076906
I'm new, so I dunno where the limits are. I ended up ordering a used intuos pro M
>good reviews
>wireless + laptop
>can use in my video and photo work
I want something that I can use to do fast color sketches with more convenience than physical media, but can't justify a ~400$ sketchpad rn

>> No.5078455

>>5078448
>until the rough paper like screen protector comes back in stock. Also where to get nibs?

Yeah, youll fucking need them lmao

>> No.5078456

Alright guys, I'm getting a surface pro 7 soon. I'm not looking to do any serious drawing (i'm a /beg/ as of now), but I AM looking to at least do some decent sketches and learn anatomy. Feels like I can draw while I'm in bed. Is the N-trig (whatever that means) really that disruptive or only noticeable for higher-level drawing?

>> No.5078517

>>5078448
Go into your Wacom settings, go to pen settings/mapping/ and make sure that force proportions is checked off, otherwise what you draw will always have distortion

>> No.5078574

>>5077531
If you're rich, get the Cintiq. You won't miss the extra $1000 provided you actually draw.

>> No.5078631

>>5078517
So it's bad to draw in proportion of my tablet space?

>> No.5078639

Newfag here, i feel like the OP doesn't list enough budget tablets under the recomended list, can anyone list more options?
t.poorfag 3rd worlder

>> No.5078668

Wanted to start drawing digitally, was thinking of buying a display tablet rather than a pen one.

>Budget
Not really set but I'm not looking to spend too much let's say 400 as a max but I'd like to find cheaper options if possible, I dont need anything top of the line, just something I can use for a few years without it failing on me.
>Location
Europe, Portugal
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
Display
>Size (in inches)
Was hoping for 16 at least
>Other information
I'm currently eyeing a deal on a Huion Kamvas Pro 16 for 300, is Huion something I should be avoiding like a plague? What issues do they have? Do they start malfuncitioning quick?
>Previous equipment
None

Again this isnt for professional work or anything, just wanted to find something decent I could use to try to adquire a new skill I could also have some fun with.

>> No.5078678

>>5077562
>>5078574
>>5078232
Seems ill stick with the cintiq, thanks for the help

>> No.5078697

>>5078668
i have a similar question, There's a very wide array of Huion products for me to pick from and their prices are alot more reasonable than what else they're selling where I'm from (Fucking Tunisia) So I'd at least like to hear an indepth argument as to why they're supposedly so bad before I right them off completely

>> No.5078698

>>5078697
*wright

>> No.5078705

>>5078698
*write
fuck

>> No.5078710

>>5078697
OP is a non artist from /g/ who has a hateboner for anything chinese. He will tell you that every single person who doesnt say huion are shit are obviously chinese shills paid by papa xi in this grandiose tablet conspiracy to keep fixing reviews and miraculously keeping the wool over everyones eyes about how their tablets are actually dog shit.

In reality, they work fine for drawing, which is what theyre for. And for a faction of the price. Plenty of good reviews for them as well. Schizokun will say theyre all shills because he has to. This has led him to saying people like Dave Greco and Marc Brunet, IE actual artists and not career reviewers like Rutten and Brad, who dont need sponsorship for shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMmKvPUsbFg

There may be better options than this V2 by now, especially with USB C. But this is just to show that they work, and for fuck all money.

>> No.5078713

>>5078710
>This has led him to saying people like Dave Greco and Marc Brunet, IE actual artists and not career reviewers like Rutten and Brad, who dont need sponsorship for shit, are shills**

Fugged up my sentence as well lmao

>> No.5078720

>>5078697
I don't know, I ordered a Kamvas Pro 16 a while ago since they were the only ones willing to ship to my country Argentina. My guess is that these flaws are inflated due to reverse survivorship bias.

>> No.5078724

>>5078720
These flaws exist in all tech, regardless of their cost.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wacom/

The thing is, even if your shitty screenless huion lasts only for a year, you could buy a new one every year for 6 years and still pay less money than for an intuos pro medium.

>> No.5078729

>>5077531
I have the cintiq pro 24, I bought it a year ago, and have had no issues so far and I got a deal on it for 1200 on ebay. If you do get it, invest in an AmazonBasics Premium Single Monitor Stand ARM. They are around 130 bucks.

>> No.5078742

>>5078710
thanks for the indepth response, hopefully you guys get arpund to making a less biased OP sometime, lots of people are looking for budget options and can't afford to be too picky. as long as it gets the job done and doesn't immediately shit itself I'm sure plenty of people would be open to Huion

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5078869

when is the s7 lite coming out?
Is it worth waiting for it?

>> No.5079072

>>5078639
That's because the OPs are spammed by a schizo /pol/tard who doesn't draw, who hates chinks and has been doing so for more than 7 months. You're supposed to buy xppen or huion.

>> No.5079090

>people complain about Citiq pro overheating
>my XP-pen never overheats no matter how long it runs

Why does that flaw exist?

>> No.5079100

>>5078668
Feel like my question kind of got sidetracked by the other anon, would love to get some input on the Huion, I'm also looking at the XP-PEN Artist 15.6, they are similarly priced, the xppen is actually slightly cheaper. Would a more experienced anon give me some pointers on what would be a better pick? Or even give some other suggestion.

>> No.5079114

>>5079072
what xppen models would you recommend?

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5079154

i can get my hands on a gaomon m10k 2018 for really cheap, is it a good pick for a first tablet?

>> No.5079187

>>5077531
>>5077001
If you're unironically listening to the first post for anything you deserve to be lead astray like the dumb fuck you are

>> No.5079217

Holy fuck i didn't expect apple pens to be that expensive. I-ill stick to screenless

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5079256

>>5079154
Alright now that I've weighed all my options, it actually boils down to either that (gaomon m10k 2018) or pic related (Galaxy Tab A)
would you guys recommend one over the other?

>> No.5079324
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5079324

I'm very interested in the MS surface pro 2, it's a cheap full on computer with an i5 processor and 8 gigs of ram that gives me access to both full versions of adobe and clip studio paint, has pressure sensitivity, and that i can use to draw wherever i want, and someone is selling it for a price i can actually afford for a change

Anything particularly bad about it that may deter me from getting it?

>> No.5079339

>>5079324
The N-Trig pen will give you wobbly compared to Wacom or apple pencil.

>> No.5079341

>>5079339
Does the issue get fixed if i get another pen?

>> No.5079346

>>5079324
>>5079339
Disregard. I just realized you said "pro 2" that has a Wacom pen, but I think it might lack tilt or something?

Pro 3 and onward switch from Wacom to N-trig pens.

>>5079341
No, cause the tech the pen is interacting with is still inferior, but again this only actually applies to models after the one you're looking at.

>> No.5079351

>>5079346
So the surface pro *2* is a safe option?

>> No.5079363

>>5079351
I double checked and it's pen doesn't measure tilt. I don't think it can be fixed with a different pen because I think the limitations is in the sensor in the screen.

So it's a safe option if you don't need tilt. (I used to make decent art in Colors! on a Nintendo DSi, and thats a tiny screen without tilt or even pressure, so while it's nice you can get by without it)

Thats also not a current model in, so I'd look into a few reviews of how it performs with photoshop. If I recall correctly, you'll get some lag depending on the brush you're using, but it should work alright.

>> No.5079364

>>5079351

>>5079363
>Thats also not a current model in
"In" was supposed to say i5

>> No.5079373

>>5079363
>>5079364
honestly i don't even know what tilt is so i think i can get by without it, thanks alot for taking the time to look over it with me.
I hear clip studio paint is less intensive than photoshop so I'll just go with that for now.
this will be my first tablet btw

>> No.5079374

>these dumb fucks trying to give recommendations based purely on SPECS that they're reading on the internet

holy fucking neckbeards, batman!! are people really this stupid??

>> No.5079382

>>5079324
As someone that has owned and used everything from Wacom, currently on the Pro line, and also owned and used the Surface Pro, Surface Pro 2, and Surface Pro 4:

Stay the fuck away from the Surface Pros. The latest line is okay but the previous generations had terrible drift and initial activation pressure requirements. Wrist pain city.

Ignore >>5079339 >>5079341 >>5079346 >>5079364 because they're a fucking embarrassment.

>> No.5079383

>>5079374
>wtf why are people worrying about wether their drawing tablets can handle their drawing programs or not.
I like a tablet that doesn't shit itself everytime i make i make a new layer

>> No.5079385

>>5079256
>>5079154
bump

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>>5078697
>>5078668
See webm

>> No.5079426

>>5079385
Gaomon if only because the screen is bigger

>> No.5079483

>>5079397
>IF I DO THINGS FUCKING RETARDEDLY, I GET REALLY BAD RESULTS WHAT GIVES?????

is this the DSP of tablet reviewers
I'm not even a fan of non-Wacom tablets but whoever that is (and you too, of course) are fucking retarded

>> No.5079485

You think Wacom will come out with a new cintiq soon? Or is their Pro line just fine?

>> No.5079487

Got a $1700 budget, but don't have the space for something like a 24 inch tablet.
I'm not really interested in an iPad because I mainly want something for animating and the iOS apps don't look that promising.
Suggestions?

>> No.5079490

>>5079483
Honestly even if the problems were as prominent as he's trying to make them out to be, You're still getting an almost competent tablet for half the price of a wacom which is an amazing deal for people with a limited budget or just looking for an affordable tablet to start off with instead of sinking 500+ dollars on something they may or may not enjoy.
no one is trying to make the argument that a kanvas is better than an ipad pro, just that it's a decent budget alternative.

>> No.5079507

>>5079483
You are a complete idiot.
Tilt not working has nothing to do with the way it was being used in that webm, it was outright dysfunctional, and snapping incorrectly.
Same goes for line wobble in a ruler test, chinese moron.

>> No.5079510

>>5079382
I've only used on of the first model Surfaces pretty minimally, but never owned one. It felt fine but not amazing in my limited use. Sorry for sharing what I knew before you showed up with more relevant experience, I guess?

Also >>5079341 is the person asking about the thing, so telling them to ignore themselves is a weird move.

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What should I buy?

>600 (stimulus) cheaper is better though
>Amerca? In my bedroom.
>Id like a display
>anything bigger than like 8 inches
> I own a small wacom tablet, which works well, and I want to use it for Paint Tool Sai and Blender.

>> No.5079874

>>5079793
Wacom One. It's as shitty as your county. God speed.

>> No.5079916

>256GB Samsung 10.5" Galaxy Tab S6 (Mountain Gray)
$430

https://slickdeals.net/f/14702450-samsung-galaxy-tab-s6-10-5-256gb-mountain-gray-sm-t860nzalxar-best-buy-430#commentsBox

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5079986

>>5079507
I use a cintiq 24 pro now, but used to use a kamvas. The pro pen is incredibly responsive and feels great to use, but the kamvas pen 100% does the job as well, just with a slight stabilizing feeling. You see, unlike yourself, I actually use these things, so my view is far more important than yours.

For anyone else, ama if youre interested

>> No.5079999

I wonder if microsoft is even self-aware that artists would be very interested in surfaces had they have a better pen/kept wacom tech

>> No.5080028

>>5079999
the wacom tech they were using was shitty as wacom FUCKING SURPRISE keeps their good shit in their own hardware

god I hate fucking goddamn mouthbreathing little shitmongers like you
why do you even post
you are a detriment to all discussion, on par with the fucking chinese hating unmedicated schizophrenics in these threads

>> No.5080030

>>5080028
Calm down, Chang, why are you insulting people randomly?

>> No.5080031

>>5080028
go hang yourself

>> No.5080065

>>5080031
go get a clue or better yet go get better at art instead of fantasizing about bigger numbers on your shitty tablet (that you got for such a deal!) will make you any better oh wait you're a mentally masturbating artcuck sorry

>> No.5080083

>>5079999
>I wonder if microsoft is even self-aware that artists would be very interested in surfaces had they have a better pen/kept wacom tech

Microsoft is like an autistic genius keeps dropping their inventions on the floor for Apple to pick up and finish.

But not really, the surface doesn't only have a shit pen, it also runs a very very underpowered laptop processor un a tablet formfactor, it's too slow for any drawing app and the Surface Go also doesn't work very good.

>> No.5080262

>Huion no longer ships where I live
>XP-Pen never did
>same thing for Wacom
I hope this is only a pandemic issue. Almost no online store accepts to ship here. Huion was the only one. I wish I was able to go away from here but I know it's not going to happen. Darn poverty.

>> No.5080646

>>5079999
It's supply and demand you retard. Normies aren't demanding tablets be optimized for an art experience. They wanna crop pictures of their fat friends and post them to Facebook. Microsoft makes shit for general use so everyone gets a slice.
The only reason Wacom made it to where they are is because they were the only one in a niche field for so long they didn't have to worry about not focusing on making great fucking tablets.

Now there's competing companies and you can see they've shifted from product quality to just strictly marketing. In 2021, Wacom is more likely to have its ads perform better than its tablets.

That's why wacoms holding on to its pen parents. Thats the only thing they have left.

>> No.5080661

>>5079485
They might come out with a bigger Wacom One or new 13”/16” Pros this upcoming CES

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Figure this is the thread to ask... I can't be the only one who draws 10x better without a stand, right? If the tablet is laying flat on my desk and I'm hunched over it like a goblin I produce my best work but if it's at an angle, even a little one and my hand/arm and basically entire upper body weight is resting on it then it's a lot harder to draw.

>> No.5080667

>>5080664
isn't resting*

>> No.5080736

>>5080664
I draw far better when its perpendicular to me. Lucky for me because its also far easier on my neck and back lmao

>> No.5080824

>>5080028
>the wacom tech they were using was shitty as wacom FUCKING SURPRISE keeps their good shit in their own hardware

Explain Samsung's S-Pen, then. That's incredibly good Wacom tech, and the only thing it really lacks compared to Wacom's own hardware is that it doesn't measure rotation.

>> No.5080839

>>5079793
For roughly $400 you can get either Huion Kamvas Pro 16 or XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro. Spend the rest on mushrooms to boost your artistic creativity.

>> No.5080875

>>5080824
>it doesn't measure rotation.
It actually does. Try Infinite Painter.

>> No.5080930

>>5078270
Dude we get it you’re a Wacom fagboy, not everyone here can afford it, at least keep your mental illness away from people discussing other options
>to schizo poster only:call me Chang or chink and your tablet will break

>> No.5080942

>>5080930
You think he even uses it?
>>5079986
Which Kamvas were you using?

>> No.5081151

>>5080875
Word
That makes the S Pen an even more complete refutation of the idea that Wacom tech is shit outside Wacom's own products.

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>>5080661
Supposedly it's upgrade to the 16 and up displays, which is why some models were taken off shelves this summer.

Wacom One is their budget line, they won't be upgrading it for a few years, but they might introduce a different size, probably smaller for the even poorer amerifags.
>>5080664
I have a 24" I alternate between nearly flat and nearly 90 degrees depending on the piece. I also don't like sitting in one position for too long so...
>>5080930
Schizo is a paid Wacom shill. He does this american propaganda thing where "everyone is lying but me". Wacom is good, but people are broke, especially the burgerlanders with their $600 "good luck" check. That doesn't even buy the shitty Cintiq.

>> No.5081261

>>5079874
Not him but I'm interested in the wacom one. it's the most affordable display tab for me, dors it have any particularly glaring flaws

>> No.5081268

>>5080942
22 plus, I still use it in the office at work. Very good for the price, feels responsive and the colours are good. Surface texture is nice too.

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5081290

there's someone selling this basically for dirt cheap nearby but it just says "wacom cintiq", anyone know what model this is?
is it shit?

>> No.5081312

>>5081290
"Wacom Cintiq12W DTZ-1200W"
it's not hard to find borther

>> No.5081317

>>5081312
thanks. gonna look for reviews on it but would also like to know what you guys think on it

>> No.5081321

>>5081290
that size, might as well buy a microscope together with it and start searching for a cheap orthopedic physician near you

>> No.5081340

>>5081261
Worst Pen overall Wacom has to offer (doesn't even have their token eraser on the other end technology), size is meh, screen resolution and color gamut are laughable in the price range and considering there are competitors that are cheaper with better screen quality, and it has been suffering from multitudes of driver issues (mostly on Mac as per usual) as well as cable connection issues.

It's as entry level as it gets. if you can work around all of those possible issues and NEED a wacom, it'll turn on.
If you don't want the money to feel wasted you have to weigh what you want to work and how well. Comparatively, for sub 400 you could get the XP15Pro or Kamvas16 which would give you a bigger screen, better screen reso and gamut, okay pens, average driver issues (usually with Sai1/2) and a scroll wheel if you're into that.

You're paying for the name. Wacoms displays aren't worth the price unless you're getting a Pro device from them. Their basics are designed to degrade quickly over time so you have to keep going back to them.

>> No.5081365

>>5081340
Where i live i don't have many options. we don't have huion products even though i hear they're budget friendly alternatives. right now my choices for a display tablet boil down to either a Wacom One or an Xp Pen Artist 15.6, for about the same price.
I thought Wacom had the better product but i might be wrong, what do you think?

>> No.5081451

>>5081365
The One is not as good as the 15.6 in this instance. Normally, I'd suggest a Wacom, but I cannot reccomend the One based on it's performance overall. It's an investment and if your budget is tight, XP is going to better for you in the long run. It may not be as perfect as a pro Cintiq, but it's viable and cheap enough that you can eventually get something heftier down the road.

>tldr: XP because of your budget if you want a display. The Wacom will require more money to be put into it in the long run. The One doesn't perform at the same quality level as any other Wacom worth mentioning. At that price you should get the Intuos pro.

>> No.5081478

>>5081451
thanks a bunch. i looked up more reviews of the XP 15.6 and I'm honestly very impressed by it considering its price.

>> No.5081745

>>5081478
Just get what will work WITH you.

If you find the cons people consistently mention may impede your work, you have to chose a different device, even if that means going screenless. Wacom isn't what it used to be, but it's still the king of Drawing Tablets. However, if you can't afford them now, you shouldn't overlook them completely.
For now, get something else, work hard, save up, reward yourself with the tablet god.

>in case schizo tries to insinuate anyone here is specifically shilling against him.

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>>5080839
Where to buy mushrooms.

>> No.5082022

>>5081478
You're just buying the chinese shill's BS.

See: >>5079397
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q2tCvdcLII

XP Pen is complete garbage. Cannot do tilt right, isn't durable and the pressure response is not consistent. There is a reason pro-level studios never invest in them like they do with Cintiqs.

>> No.5082070

>>5082022
Honestly If anything that video sold me on the Xp-pen. I'm paying 250 less american dollars for a big display tablet that can do most of what the average 650 dollar wacom does but slightly worse tilt. sounds like a good deal for my first tablet. no one here was making the argument that the Xp-pen was a better tablet than the Cintiq, but rather that it's a great budget alternative, which it is

>> No.5082081

>>5082070
>I'm paying 250 less american dollars for a big display tablet that can do most of what the average 650 dollar wacom does
That's one way of admitting you didn't watch the video, Chang.

>> No.5082086

>>5082081
>everyone who disagrees with me is Mao incarnate
lol take your meds

>> No.5082090

>>5082086
But you clearly didn't watch the video, Chang. It's a lot more than just tilt, but naturally you wouldn't want to address anything that doesn't assist your advertising here.

>> No.5082096

>>5081745
>in case schizo tries to insinuate anyone here is specifically shilling against him.
>>5082022
>You're just buying the chinese shill's BS


Like a bell and a doorman lol

>> No.5082098

>>5082096
But you actually are an idiotic shill, Chang. You've been proven wrong countless times, and continue to lie about XP Garbage being just as good as Wacom, when it couldn't be further from the truth.

You also cannot name a single professional studio that invests in XP Pens or Huions. Want to know why? Because there aren't any.

>> No.5082103

>>5082098
I literally said nothing to you.

>> No.5082105

>>5082090
>the two actual issues are tilt and lag when applying lighter pressure
>the rest of the issues are just about luxuries i could live without like the pen being too noisy or lack of integrated stand
>if i accept these compromises i save up 250 dollars
XP pen still sounds like a steal.
sorry your favourite e-celeb didn't accomplish what you hoped he would i guess

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>artist 15.6 pro
works on my machine

>> No.5082208

>>5075263
my $400 used 2018 ipad pro is better in every way than your $1200 cintiq. Lets be honest: your cintiq is too dim. the color is terrible. the fact that it requires a computer to make it work is beyond retarded. the fact that your puter is all usb c and the cintiq requires an hdmi AND 2 usb2 ports AND a power brick is beyond retarded. the fact that you cant take your cintiq to starbux or panera and work is beyond retarded. The fact that my Arm processor tablet is faster and runs cooler with a longer battery life than your full size laptop is beyond retarded. The fact that you have to sit at your desk and work and not lay on your tummy in bed is beyond retarded. The fac that your touch screen tablet has no touch to let you quickly rotate and zoom your screen and change tools without a bluetooth keyboard is beyond retarded. the fact that my 12 inch screen is more productive than your screen that is twice as large and 4 times as heavy is beyond retarded. the fact that i can see my halftones better and my digitizer is better on a machine with a cpu and graphics card is beyond retarded. stop supporting wacom u chuds. it is 2010 anymore.

>> No.5082214

>>5082208
>your
Who?
How stupid are you exactly?

>> No.5082215

>>5081290
it is garbage. it is too dim. the colors are terrible. the resolution is terrible. the ports are out of date. it requires too many cables dangling off of it to make it work. the power brick is huge. it is too heavy.

>> No.5082216

>>5082214
stay mad chud. :)
>you

>> No.5082220

>>5079793
get an ipad air u terrorist.procreate is better than photoshop and it cost 9 dollars. your improved art will thank me. sam why did u kill renee zellweger?

>> No.5082223

>>5078453
bro dont get a screenless tablet in 2020. get a used ipad pro. it is better in every way. plus it is half the size of your laptop, weighs less, has a better screen and even has a better processor. it also cost about the same.

>> No.5082225

>>5075305
there is no excuse for apple pencils not to have an rfid and gps chip in them that let u track them like an iphone with "find my apple pencil" app. make it happen tim cook.

>> No.5082227

>>5076573
it is pretty cool and worth the money. it is very light and very small and it makes it very easy to put it in your bag. the battery is good and it is nice not to need to plug it in.

>> No.5082241

I'm using a Wacom Intuos S right now, the 80 dollar one and it is giving me wrist problems. I used the Wacom Intuos Pro M a few years ago and it was good, but the best I have ever used was Apple Ipad Pro 12.9 with Procreate and Apple pencil. I had to sell it but my time with it was the best. I could sit anywhere and work, and draw and watch movies on the same screen even etc. What sucks though is that i'm considering getting into Zbrush and stuff and like photoshop the Ipad probably doesn't support it.

>> No.5082245

>>5082241
Get a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite and get the superDisplay app. Lets you use the tablet as a display tablet for windows, and works with ZBrush.

>> No.5082329

My main drawing tablet is an Intuos Pro Large. Would it be worth shelling out the extra money for the AMOLED and working space of an S7+, or would I still be comfortable with the S7's IPS display and size?

>> No.5082340

>>5082329
Ips is fine but the size isn't.
I wouldn't even consider anything smaller than S7+

>> No.5082425

Asking again, should i get the samsung s6 lite or should I wait for the s7 lite?

>> No.5082460

>>5082425
You should get a job and get an S7+

S6 lite is a piece of shit that's not worth taking for free. The only person who suggests it is the /pol schizo and only because its Korean

>> No.5082484

>>5082460
Why are you so aggro, Zhang? Why do you keep bringing nationality into tablet quality?

>> No.5082494 [DELETED] 

>>5082484
This might be the lowest IQ post Ive seen all week and I visit /x/

>> No.5082516

so im completely new to digital art. Do you guys have your pen setting set to absolute mode or relative mode? Trying to find one that feels more natural

>> No.5082520

>>5082494
Well our little activist isn't very smart, and doesn't know many words.

>> No.5082522

>>5082516
Absolute.
I'm not sure why relative even exists.

>> No.5082526

>>5082522
thank you very much. maybe the tablet is really small just trying to find how to better control it.

>> No.5082642

>>5082484
This is the lowest IQ post Ive seen all week, capped.

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>>5075263
>Used Cintiq 22HD
Is this still the best option or is the OP outdated?

>> No.5082695 [DELETED] 

>>5082693
The OP is retarded. Just mass report it everytime he posts, these threads are beyond cancer

>> No.5082730

>>5082693
It's the most reliable option for a large display tablet that isn't overpriced.
Obviously the newer Cintiq Pros are better in many ways, but come with a heavy pricetag.

Don't mind Chang here: >>5082695
He's still upset his chinese rubbish continues to get exposed.

>> No.5082741

How often does Wacom refresh their lineup? It feels like it's been ages.

>> No.5082801

>>5082693
50/50

It's outdated technically, resolution and color gamut are meh at this point but Wacom hasn't made anything good since so it's probably the best you can get from them these days.

It's about the pens not the monitor.

>> No.5082810

Has anyone here made a DIY Cintiq before? I remember reading blog posts about it back in the day and was thinking of making my own 4K one since their current offering is dogshit and the DIY is cheaper. What are the pros and cons?

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>>5082693
I have a 22HD touch (pic related), that I got in early 2016.

It was good when I got it. It's still rock solid, and driver issues have become nonexistent (I used to have them when I first got it). The drawing experience is still reliable. I plan on using this still for many years to come and it was a great purchase in retrospect.

However, I honestly would not get this model, as it is undoubtedly outdated. I would only get it if it was heavily discounted or used. I see Wacom has a new Cintiq 22HD, and maybe it's better, but the problems I with this are
>Color
It's not the best screen. Colors are washed out and not that accurate, and the contrast could be more vivid.
>Resolution
1080p is simply not enough for a 22" screen sitting right in front of your face.
>Refresh rate
Maybe I got spoiled by the iPad Pro, but if I ever got another desktop drawing tablet, I'd want it to be 120hz+. The 60fps screen is serviceable, but high refresh rates should be the standard going forward.

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gonna get my hands on an XP PEN Artist 15.6 for 280 dollars. it will be my first tablet and i was looking for a budget option. was it a good deal?

>> No.5082907

>>5082905
NOOOOO YOU CANT BUY XP PENS MADE IN CHINA YOU HAVE TO BUY WACOMS MADE IN CHINA FOR 5X THE PRICE

>> No.5082908

>>5082907
I don't have that kind of money and i want an at least medium sized display tablet for my big donkey kong hands

>> No.5082913

>>5082905
>280 for Artist 15.6
For that kind of money it's a very good deal yeah

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>>5082908
Np, it was a good deal anon. Brace for the schizo though.

>> No.5082939

>>5082913
>>5082920
nice. I'm so excited to get into digital

>> No.5083064

Noob question. What is the recommended dpi for high quality image at 4k? I search online and a lot of the sites mention ppi instead. I don't know the difference.

>> No.5083071

>>5083064
*nevermind. Found the answer in Manga General

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What's the best beginner tablet I can get? Want something middle-sized and something that doesn't have a fat pen and drivers that are actually good.
I used picrel because I bought it for dirt cheap from some guy in my area, for like 15 bucks, but it's broken and the pen was too fat anyways. I'm also a leftie, so something that doesn't get in the way of my hand like the shit on the left does would be great.

>> No.5083182

>>5083180
Forgot to mention, but my budget is like 100-120 dollars or so.

>> No.5083188

>>5083180
Deco 01 or Deco Pro

>> No.5083210

>>5083182
Deco 02 for the slim pen, Deco Pro for overall performance. Both under 120.
XP is ambidex friendly. Alternatively, if you want something small, you can just get the Wacom Intuos basic that's 100.

>> No.5083234

>>5082484
>>5082642
>>5082920
This is the only appropriate response to the WacomSchizo. Based.

>>5082905
Very solid for that price. You should be fine as long as you don't have a Mac. I know most of the driver issues happen on Macs.
>Thanks CrApple
Just remember while there's tilt there's no barrel rotation because Wacom needs that to stay on top. So tilt brushes will work but be very jumpy since they have nothing to tell them which way you're turning your pen.
See: >>5079397
This is an XP being used with a brush that has tilt but XP doesn't have tilt rotation (hence why this is a bad video for showing the quality of the product rather than that it does work) do the pen response becomes jumpy. Just be mindful of your brush types and you won't have this simple issue.

> Source: I own an Artist 24 and a Cintiq Pro.

>> No.5083716

These things need to get cheaper, I only have max 100€ to spend.

>> No.5083746

>>5082340
>worse battery life
>PWM
>oled burn in
>oled green tint
enjoy your "superior" tablet, bro

>> No.5083812

>>5083234
barrel rotation is a meme and I never use it or tilt in PS because it fucks up the brushes. tilt is auto on in CSP though

>> No.5083844

>Budget
$600 but can go higher
>Location
USA
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
Display or portable
>Size (in inches)
Preferably 10"+
>Other information
Looking for a portable tablet or a display with stable driver. Didn't like working with iPad + Apple pen (first gen) but I was drawing on tempered glass so I don't know if paperlike would make a difference.
>Previous equipment
Intuos medium (current), iPad+Galaxy Tab lent to me by friends and family

>> No.5083858

>>5082905
It just makes you a retard.

>> No.5084040

So do you guys have a separate desk/PC setup for your bigass tablets?

>> No.5084056

Pen tablet or screen tablet?
How long does it really take to get used to the non-screen ones?

t. fag who only ever drew with a pencil

>> No.5084123

>>5084056
It's different for everyone. For some people it's easy, for others they cannot work without a screen.

Most people get used to screenless. Just get an Intuos 3 off Ebay for $40 and try it out.

>>5083844
Galaxy Tab S7

>> No.5084151

>>5082460
>S6 lite is a piece of shit that's not worth taking for free.
That's just not true.

I'm posting from a Tab S7+, but S-Pen devices are pretty good in general. I haven't had the Tab6 Lite, but it is larger, newer, and more powerful the the Galaxy Note 4, which I did have and loved drawing on it.

>> No.5084189

>>5084123
>Galaxy Tab S7 +

>> No.5084205

I'm planning to buy a Huion Kamvas 22 Plus. Would anyone have something to recommend over this, with a similar sort of pricerange/spec?

>> No.5084229

>>5084205
A used Cintiq 22HD.

Huions are rubbish. Break easily and still have shitty pen performance, including broken tilt and abrupt tapering.

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>>5084205
I use one for work, its pretty great for the price. The contrast and colours are awesome. The pen feels a teeny bit delayed compared to wacoms pro pen 2, but its akin to using a slight stabilizer, so it can actually help out with smooth lines. There was a tiny bit of tapering in light stroked lines, however it only happened in Krita and not on Sai for instance, so its software dependent. I also barely noticed it as well, because its only an issue if you use large brushes with size set 100% to pressure.

>> No.5084343

Parents got me a Huion display tablet for my birthday and the pen isn't fucking working anymore. I have to hold both buttons down for it to work and there is no support anywhere on how to fix it.

>> No.5084347

>>5084343
You..have to hold both buttons on the pen down for it to work? What? Thats not possible on any tablet stylus

>> No.5084349

my huion stylus broke so I just use it as another monitor

>> No.5084350

>>5084343
>>5084349

Based schizo larping

>> No.5084351

>>5084347
Err I mean like the buttons on the side of the pen, like the right mouse button and shit.

>> No.5084356

>>5084351
Yes, those. You cant hold both down at the same time. So whats your issue exactly? Does your pen only register if you hold one of the buttons down?

>> No.5084357

>>5084356
Yes, it crapped out on me.

>> No.5084359

>>5084357
Did you contact support?

>> No.5084363

>>5084359
Ye it keeps telling me to do captcha and it fails every single time for some reason.

>> No.5084366

>>5084363
Do your parents know youre on the computer again?

>> No.5084378

>>5084349
>>5084343
Stop samefagging schizokun

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>still no low response time high refresh rate screen tablet
itoddler shit doesn't count

>> No.5084391

>>5084229
It's not that easy to find a specific used tablet where I live. If I buy something it has to be from an actual retailer.

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>I need to hold down both pen buttons in order to draw

>> No.5084407

What's the deal with the Cintiq 22HD used vs new? Why do I see people recommending used ones?

>> No.5084410

>>5084407
Because the OP is a retard from /g/ who doesnt draw, who thinks that a used refurbished cintiq 22 HD with cumstains on it and void warranty is worth saving what, 200 dollars

>> No.5084412

>>5084407
Older Wacom tablets tend to be more reliable and durable than newer ones. Many people on /ic/ are still drawing on their old Intuos 3s purchased 12+ years ago.

The newer Cintiq Pros are pretty cool, but they're expensive as fuck, and some people have had issues in the past.

>> No.5084414

>>5084350
>>5084378
???
I’m not even the same anon you’re referring to. And yes my stylus actually did break. Long story short get xp-pen

>> No.5084417

>>5084412
Wacom doesn't even sell the 22HD in my country. I'm feeling like I might stick with a Kamvas at this rate.

>> No.5084420

>>5084414
If you got it from amazon just send it back. If not just contact huion support.

>> No.5084423

>>5084414
try and get a refund thru amazon anon

>> No.5084446

>>5084417
Enjoy your easily broken shit then, along with a pen that can't draw a straight line

>> No.5084447

>>5084420
How about he just not buy a shitty huion tablet instead?

>> No.5084448

>>5075263
Budget: under $400 but sounds $300 would be perfect.
Location: the us
Type: I want an ipad pro and hopefully it'll fit in my tiny bag so I can take it with me places to draw

Also if there's one on Amazon people recommend that would be preferred but I could buy something from eBay as well. Or I could open a credit line and get the newest one through Verizon which I'm considering but I'd rather try an older model first and see if I actually use it.

>> No.5084452

>>5084446
>>5084447
Do you really have to make these threads unusable? Like you've been at this for months already, what the fuck do you get out of this?

>> No.5084453

>>5084452
Zhang, don't even try to pretend you haven't been here for years, desperately trying to sell your shitty chinese garbage tablets.

>> No.5084455

>>5084453
>>5082920

>> No.5084456

>>5084453
This is actually just sad dude. No one seriously believes there are paid shills on this site, and yet you keep making multiple replies exactly on the post timer and pretend that you're not one person.

>> No.5084460

>>5084456
Cope more, Zhang. Perhaps if you weren't so obviously desperate to convince people to buy chinese garbage, it wouldn't become so glaringly obvious you're a braindead shill.

>> No.5084464

>>5084460
PYW btw, I want to see what your in depth knowledge of digital art has produced.

>> No.5084474 [DELETED] 

>>5084464
Idiotic chinese shills like yourself who haven't posted any work of their own are not entitled to ask for the work of others.
This is especially true taking into account how frequently you chinks like to hack and dox people. No doubt you'd love nothing more than to sabotage anyone who dare expose your trash tablets for what they are.

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>>5084474
Ask me how I know you wouldnt pyw even if everyone else here did.

>> No.5084495

i can never figure out my preferred slant. more upright is nice but limits my motion. more horizontal allows me more control but fucks with my neck and back
what do

>> No.5084536

>>5084420
>>5084423
>amazon
I brought it off a retailer in my country, (not online, I went to there actual store) I end up getting an iPad Pro which was a much far superior drawing experience imo.

>> No.5084537

>>5075263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-LTpm8PIn8
timestamp 10:08
Wacom Intuos 3 once again confirmed the best drawing tablet.

>> No.5084541 [DELETED] 

>>5084536
Try harder, schizoid

>> No.5084548 [DELETED] 

>>5084480
>even if everyone else here did.
No you didn't, Zhang.

>> No.5084559

>>5084541
Fuck off faggot I’m not even the same anon retard

>> No.5084564 [DELETED] 

Zhangbros...

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>>5084548
Why your vocabulary is so limited is actually a lot more clear now

>> No.5084593

>>5075263
Why fucking bother micromanage these shit threads instead of just nuking them as soon as they start? The OP has been doing this for fucking what, 8 months now?

>> No.5084600

>>5084593
A general for tablets is a mistake. Whose idea was it just because you don’t want the board flooded with tablet threads? You have ten whole pages to play with.

>> No.5084739

>>5084593
It really is frustrating for you, isnt it Chang? You just can't recommend your shitty Huions anymore.
Come back when even a single professional studio starts using them.

>> No.5084748

>>5084739
I use one in the studio I work at, schizoid. Thats the difference between us, you see. Im an artist and you're not.

>> No.5084773

>>5084748
Good to know we have your word, Chang. I'm sure that will convince everyone to believe you're a serious artist in a serious studio, and not some chinese loser who desperately shills Huions all day while crying about some "schizo".

>> No.5084886
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5084886

It arrived.
What am in for bros?

>> No.5084893

>>5084886
Expensive mediocrity.

>> No.5084916

>>5084886
It'll work fine, pay no mind to Chang here: >>5084893

>> No.5085111

https://www.amazon.ca/Simbans-PicassoTab-Drawing-Beginner-Bluetooth/dp/B071GY6994/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=drawing+tablet&qid=1608838449&s=electronics&sr=1-13 so is this useful or garbage

>> No.5085121

>>5084123
>>5084189
Thanks, I'll check then out. Is the only difference between them the size?

>> No.5085159

I can afford the wacom cintiq 24 pro just fine, money isn't a problem -- but is it too much? I feel like when I enter digital art having a 20 inch screen would be really cool. What are you guys' experiences with this?

I've laos been looking at the ~13 inch iPads. But then I think that might be too small?

In a few years my goal is to draw a webcomic.

fuck

>> No.5085597
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5085597

>>5078251
I like mine. No issues so far, been a few months since I got it.

>> No.5085611

>>5085159
I have a 24" tablet and it's kinda overwhelming sometimes size wise but I also have a 9.7 iPad in case I don't wanna be tied to my desk. The Cintiq 24pro is probably the best you can get in its size range since I believe it's 4k. The next in show after it would be Xp's 24pro but that reso is only 2k.

Realistically, if you can afford it and plan on using it every fucking day, get the Cintiq.
If not, something smaller and cheaper would be best to invest in. That way the money you dont spend you can put into other resources for your comic.

>> No.5085675

Yo I have a weird problem, I got a Huion Kanvas 13 and everything works like a charm, except that the tablet randomly disconnects and connects, I looked it up and changing drivers only helped with the tablet not defaulting to the regular monitor area when it happened. I read that getting one of those USB Cables with video output helps.
Does every cable that outputs video work, or do I need the expensive as balls huion one?
Is this something that I can fix with the tablet configuration only?

>> No.5085691

>>5085611
Interesting!
How do you feel when comparing the ipad to the big 24 incher? Ever feel like it's a drag or difficult to do work on it and wish you were home on the big baby or something?

>> No.5085710

I bought my first ever iPad recently. I am wondering about which software is best for drawing, note taking, and vector art. I didn’t see it in this thread. I know about Adobe illustrator but it’s costly. I am hoping for compatibility with Apple Pencil.
If anyone has a recommendation I would love to hear it. Thanks and merry Christmas.

>> No.5085715

>>5085710
For vector art on iPad, everyone uses Affinity Designer.

Don't get Affinity Photo though, it sucks.

>> No.5085720

>>5085675
Assuming you have yours set up via HDMI+USB, one thing I'd suggest trying(if you haven't already)is making sure no competing drivers are on the system(in case you used another tablet brand before getting this one).

I wouldn't know about what benefits the branded USB-C cable have, but I do know you'll need to get theirs, since the input on the tablet is shaped to force the use of proprietary cables.

>> No.5085866

>>5085691
It alternates. If I'm using the tablet I'm not planning on moving so I'm kinda camped out with hydration and whatever I need to work on for the day.
The iPad I use more like a digital sketchpad for small ideas and quick sketches I don't feel like sitting down at a table for.

I do have urges to make some big fantastic piece on the 24 but I usually end up sitting there drawing boxes and disks cause I'm not in the mood for such a large space to work in.

>> No.5085883

>>5085159

There is nothing like the cintiq pro 24 on the market. If you can afford it, then get it, especially if you want to draw in high resolution. I have one and have no issues with it. There is some guy here who keeps saying there are issues with it in the past, but that is for the cintiq rpo 16 that first came out. Any new tech is going to have issues, but this late in the production for cintiq pro, wacom should have fleshed out their production and troubleshooting pipeline to be more aware of these issues.

>> No.5086019
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5086019

>>5075263
I got the Wacom One 13.3"
its heckin awesome

>> No.5086065
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5086065

looking for a tablet for someone new to digital art
>budget
200 USD
>location
west coast
>type
any would do fine, doesnt need to be portable
>size
medium
>other information
something that comes with a pen or do all come with pen?

>> No.5086362

>>5086065
>200 USD
That price point is complicated. I'd say to save up most of that and get a Huion HS611 for $80 which has a good amount of express keys, but if you really want to spend the whole $200 you can go for a Wacom Intuos M.
>something that comes with a pen or do all come with pen?
A tablet that comes without a pen is like a car that comes without wheels. Of course any tablet worth its salt would come with a pen.

>> No.5086372

>>5085675
>except that the tablet randomly disconnects and connects

Did you try a different USB port?
They all have different fit and finish and ssame connector might be loose inside one port and tight inside another.

>> No.5086380

>>5082223
do people actually believe this?
>>5082329
no in every way. Surface area is king.

>> No.5086383

>>5086065
>>5086362
Both are good. I've found the intuos tablets to be just a tiny bit more responsive, but I don't think it's necessarily worth the extra $1.2 hunge.

>> No.5086402
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5086402

>>5084456
>No one seriously believes there are paid shills on this site, and yet you keep making multiple replies exactly on the post timer and pretend that you're not one person.

Lets figure out who the OP is.
The things we know so far
>Generally poor English and short vocabulary
Either a third worlder or mentally challenged.
>He is here most of the time
Doesn't have a job, unless he's monitoring it 24/7 on a phone
>poor
The only devices he recommends are in the range of 200$ (specifically the old iPad Pro, S6 lite and used Wacom only)
>Very emotional hatred of the Chinese
China recently had some conflicts with other shitholes, namely India, Hong Kong and seems to threaten Taiwan

So far I lean towards a raging indian Pajit, it's a combination of poor language and very emotional posts
>you dumb chink insect
Just feels to resonate with
>show bobs and vegana bitch lasagna

Anybody figured the pattern of his downtime yet? That could tell us what part of the world he's in assuming he like a regular autist sleeps in the morining.

>> No.5086407

>>5086402
>literally quoting pewdiepie
you must be 18 to post here

>> No.5086425

>>5086407
pewdiepie didn't invent the Indians posting bizarre shit you know? they did it themselves.

>> No.5086453

Was gifted an XP Pen Artist 12, is this something I should just resell, or is it a decent tablet?

>> No.5086460

>>5086453
It's on the low end, a bit small and a bit dated but generally workable

>> No.5086461

>>5086453
It's the absolute cheapest display tablet. It's OK but not really that good. If you can scrounge up $300 you could probably resell it for near retail price if it's unused and the warranty is still active, then get a pretty good 15.6 inch tablet like a Huion Kamvas Pro 16, XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro or Artisul D16 Pro.

>> No.5086488

>>5075263
can someone tell me what programs should i use to draw on my Ipad (8th generation Ipad with the pencil)?
i want to draw manga with it but i'm a beginner and clueless about the programs.
i also need a program like Super Display for my PC or any program that can display my tablet screen on my PC with various functions for drawing.
the opinion of anyone who has any experience drawing manga on an Ipad would be appreciated.
sorry if this is the wrong board/thread.

>> No.5086494

>>5086453
Not even the pro. Someone was being jewy with you.
It's not amazing but it will work.

>> No.5086496

>>5086488
>me what programs should i use to draw on my Ipad
Hornet

>> No.5086497

>>5086461
>>5086494
It was a gift from mother. She knows fuck all about drawing so I appreciate the gesture but... eh... and I would feel bad about selling it cause I know she's gonna ask if I'm using it

>> No.5086499

>>5086497
Does your mother live with you? Just tell her you're using it. Seriously, 12 inches is small.

>> No.5086503

>>5086496
you probably use it, that's how you know...

>> No.5086504

>>5086499
It's workable you dumbfuck chink. Stop trying to sell him more of your worthless garbage.

>> No.5086511

It’s Christmas. Can you guys be nice just for today?

>> No.5086517

>>5086511
You're a dumbfuuuuuuuck!

>> No.5086518

>>5086517

Your mother

>> No.5086524

>>5086511
thats not how this place works lol.

>> No.5086531

>>5086362
>>5086383
thanks for the response anons, ill grab the HS611 then
>A tablet that comes without a pen is like a car that comes without wheels.
thanks for clarifying this, just got confused seeing the pens that you could buy

>> No.5086534

>>5086531
The chinese thank you for cooperating with their shilling department.

>> No.5086537 [DELETED] 

>>5086534
Reminder of just how fucking stupid this schizo is, the post is still in this thread.
>>5082920

>> No.5086540

>>5086537
is this this guy as well? >>5086496

he was there few weeks ago when i was in a tablet thread.

>> No.5086543

>>5086531
If you're on a budget, get an Intuos 3 off Ebay. Still cheap, but won't have the same annoying pen problems as a crappy Huion.

>> No.5086544

>>5086537
what post

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5086550

>>5086544
lmao, he wants it jannied so bad. Here. Save it

>> No.5086553

>>5086534
In the same post I recommended a Wacom.

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5086568

>>5086544
This one

>> No.5087001

>>5086488
procreate. it costs 9 dollars and you own it. it is hands down the best art making software ever created. it takes all the shit you need from photoshop and makes it easy to use with touch. photoshop is terrible when you are working with a touch screen. they need to reimagine it completely. procreate also lets you import photoshop brushes. if you learn to do art with this device you will have a great headstart on other artists who are stuck in the past.

>> No.5087005

>>5085611
it is so valuable to be able to get up from your desk and do the same quality work with an ipad pro while you lay in bed. you get so much more done and your tolerance for work goes way up when you are comfy.

>> No.5087016

>>5082838
you speak the truth - i once owned one of these and the screen is terrible. the paralax is also terrible. it was so bad it threw me off screen tablets for a decade. i then got an ipad pro and realized that apple leapfrogged wacom. it is exactly like working with natural meda and u dont need a stupid keyboard or giant computer to hook it up to.

>> No.5087022

>>5084056
i used non screen tablets for a decade, drawing on a screen is the only way to go.

>> No.5087037

Have ipad pro 2nd gens fallen behind the newer generations of commercial big tech pads?

>> No.5087304

Is Huion's driver server down for everyone or just me?

>> No.5087367

Is the Cintiq 16 good? I thought about getting the 22 but it was just outside my price range.

>> No.5087772

I've got a cintiq hybrid that I use as a pen display, is an iPad or Samsung tab 6/7 a good replacement as a tool for design? Is there a way to use those tablets as a pen display in a way that doesn't suck ass?

>> No.5087797
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5087797

I am a rich noob. I fell for the S S7+ meme. Someone recommend me software for it, both free and paid.

>> No.5087891

>>5087797
Fresco by Adobe is pretty great.

>> No.5088047
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5088047

>>5087891
>Fresco by Adobe is pretty great.

>> No.5088162

>>5087001
thanks.
btw what about a program for Ipad like Super Display (it's an Android program for PC) ?
i need to have something to display the tablet screen on my PC and maybe some tools included to modify the drawing if it's possible.

>> No.5088281

>>5087797
Infinite Painter
superDisplay
Autodesk Sketchbook
Ibis Painter
Krita
Medibang
Clipstudio

Those are the essentials, make sure to try them all, and make sure to buy superDisplay in particular.

>>5088162
Astropad

>> No.5088296

>>5088281
isn't Astropad for Mac ?
i'm on Windows, i need a software that displays an Ipad screen on Windows 10, so that i can have a better view of what i'm drawing on my Ipad.

>> No.5088322

>>5088296
EasyCanvas

>> No.5088352

>>5088322
i'll test it, normal version or the "pro" version btw ?

>> No.5088373
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5088373

When I hold my pen in one spot for too long (which is half a fucking second), a circle appears around the cursor and the pen stops drawing until I lift it off and touch the tablet again
what is this and how do I turn this shit off
its really annoying

>> No.5088565

>>5088352
I got the normal because its cheaper and I don't need the wireless feature

>> No.5088591

>>5088373
it's some bullshit surface feature
Disable all flicks and tablet features in windows.


I don't remember how, go google it.

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5088642

I wish people(or maybe the one person)that shit on Huion products regularly would post their work for comparison.

For the cost, they're honestly not a bad option. There are complaints, but I imagine the people that have one that works are busy drawing with it.

>> No.5088672

>>5088296
>isn't Astropad for Mac ?
Windows too

>> No.5088825

>>5088322
I am pretty sure it's shit.

>> No.5088830

>>5087891
No it isn't.

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5088831

>> No.5088834

Which tablet has no parallax?

>> No.5088835

Thoughts on artisul?

>> No.5088838
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5088838

>> No.5088840

>>5088591
Are you sure?

>> No.5088842

>>5088835
Shit.

>> No.5088843

>>5087037
No

>> No.5088845

>>5086383
Retard.

>> No.5088848

>>5086517
Piss off.

>> No.5088849

>>5084456
Why are you here?

>> No.5088850
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>> No.5088853

New thread:

>>5088847
>>5088847
>>5088847

>>5088847
>>5088847
>>5088847

>>5088847
>>5088847
>>5088847

>> No.5088928

>>5088840
>>5088842
>>5088843
>>5088845
>>5088848
>>5088849
>>5088850
>>5088853
Did you just forcibly sage a non saging thread to start a new one?

>> No.5088976

>>5088928
Yes
he does it every time.

>> No.5089182

>>5087772
>Is there a way to use those tablets as a pen display in a way that doesn't suck ass?

I use SuperDisplay with a Tab S7+. There is a tiny amount of latency, but it's hardly noticeable even when connected over wifi. I have a Cintiq 13HD, and the experience is comparable. The S7+ is the far more convenient of the two.

>> No.5089233

>>5088928
now you know why these threads are some of the most useless on /ic/
and that's saying something

>> No.5089491

>>5088047

>>5088830

What's wrong with it? I really enjoy the whole live watercolor thing but I dont know of any alternative apps except for corel which is a bit overkill for me.

>> No.5089498

>>5089182
Awesome thanks, how does the s pen feel? I have a note 10, is it anything like that s pen? Just worried I'll miss the texture and hard nib is all.