/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Friendly reminder to ignore 4 months failfag.

>>5070335
4 MONTHS WASTED

Some faces from imagination. Anything i should focus on?

I've been drawing for 4 months and I still can't drawn anything, I hate all these talented people

What do you think? How to improve? How to make this more appealing?

>>5070367
I went full digital a month and 3 days ago. My art always feels off.

My art >>5070368

>>5070370
anon that's a copy

>>5070367
Didn't you say in another thread you've just been tracing?
Nothing wrong with it, but it won't help you improve. You have to copy without tracing.

>>5070383
I want to be an inker

not sure if I'm actually getting better at making these. Somehow one of the backlines never aligns with the other 2.

I wasted 4 months and never improved, I'll be getting a tablet and I'm going to trace and cheat since Digital seems to give you faster progress
>>5070396
DAB is a meme beyond this point

>>5070368
gotta learn how to render/paint digitally. keep practicing and start studying.

>>5070366
study profiles

>>5070366
How long have you been drawing?

>>5070366
lots of symbol drawing

I've been drawing anime shit for so long I forgot how to practice.

Should I just unironically do loomis again? Is it worth repeating or just do more "master studies"

>>5070480

>>5070488
Watching proko and then vilppu face anatomy helped me. Here's an old progression I had before and after loomis, proko, and vilppu casual studies. once you watch them, practice the techniques consciously otherwise you'll fall into bad habits before the teachings stick.

>>5070447
What do you recommend instead of DAB then?

How'd I do? Is the darkness effect I did overkill? I was experimenting a lot. Ill post without the effect in a sec

>>5070495
I will check out vilppu, I never did that much last time I studied was mostly loomis and proko

I haven't drawn much for 2.5 years so I feel like a /beg/ again.

No effect

>>5070366
Focus more on copying and analyzing from different artists, less from drawing from imagination

>>5070447
yeah trace and photobash your art, nobody will notice :^)

How much time do I give myself for each gesture drawing as an absolute /beg/, do I do it with no time limit and just slowly feel the form or do I need to do them in under 2 minutes right away
Time limits make me very nervous and it’s hard to focus on the drawing

>>5070582
absolute /beg/ shouldn't do gesture drawing

Just do figure drawings and other forms of life drawing.

if you cant get something down in 2 minutes you aren't ready

Okay actually done. Made the vignette look less eye raping.
Please c&c

i'll study the skull

>>5070604
Do your best

>>5070604
okay

>>5070604
aww look at that good boy

For a /beg/ you are doing pretty good. You made an actual appealing drawing. Way to go

>>5070667
t-thanks?

>>5070667
who? who?
ME?

>>5070667
I knew it was only a question of time until my genius was recognised.
Behold, my latest masterpiece

Where can i get the nma Vilppu course on cross-hatching?

>>5070667
WHO

Any tips?

>>5070709
DEFINITELY not you.

>>5070582
I gave myself unlimited time when i began doing gestures. Really i never liked the time limit concept but it could work for some people.
The point is to not waste time on the details of the body. Just convey the pose while keeping an eye on proportions and positioning. Doesnt matter if it takes 15 minutes or 3.

And dont listen to the other anon, gestures are good for begs.

I just started this. Just a rough idea so far.

Where can I get Vilppu's cross hatching course from nma?

>>5070727
That eye looks symbol drawn, back looks very slim, beside that this looks ok, at least to my /beg/ eyes

>>5070735
On NMA

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i need help im trying the arm in the bottom but they don't look alright the one inside the red circle is my best try but im not even sure if that's anatomically correct

send help

>>5070469
few years

>>5070559
yeah i guess its the way to go

Any thoughts on an artist named 'LMSketch'?

>>5070779
whoa.. the schizo is gracing us /beg/s with his presence..

I can do copies and master studies, but my original work isn't as good.How do you practice making original content?

>>5070800
Got an example? Just throw a study and an original work into one jpg and show us

>>5070799
im not that /vp/ tranny, can't a man scream from time to time so far im think im going in the right direction idk i can't find a fucking ref of this angle on google

>Spent the last 9 hours only drawing and jerking off
>Feel like I'm about to pass out from exhaustion
Help me.
A-atleast I did all those studies...

my wrist hurts

>>5070828
When I started drawing I had crazy wrist pain for 1 day and then it never came back. I think the muscles in my wrist/arm were sore or something.

any tips on what i should focus studying?

>>5070845
nice work. I would say work on proportions, your legs are a little long and your head is a little too small

>>5070752
Yeah this is really just very rough stage. No plan yet.

How's this?
Did I fuck up?

just started today. plan on grinding this continually over time while introducing stuff little by little. is this the best way to do it?

>>5070885
reference pic was this

What would you suggest me to improve in general based on this drawpile piece? I feel like I am almost int but my anatomy and poses are pretty shit

stuff

How is this looking so far? Im struggling with the girl on the rights arm (the one closest to camera) if anyone has any references for that it would be really useful.

I might be retarded

berate me

just a simple sundress and the blue sky, not sure why i'm overthinking it, like idk what to do with the hands, a cold bottle of water, maybe flowers, a parasol might force me to shrink her to be able to see the sky.
also giving her a hat bc it's sunny but I already did that multiple times, fuuuu

>>5070991
smiling and waving at the viewer while she holds her hat?

hows it going fellow begarinos

>>5070890
>almost int
mid /beg/

>>5070885
1. get a better ref without a huge watermark on it
2. like every other /beg/ you got lost in the details. ignore the contours or any detail of the body when doing construction.
3. put more effort into your scribbles

>>5070996
that's an option, gonna see how it turns out

>>5071032
monkas vibe

Red pill me on /beg/

I’m new to /ic/

>>5070956
polka is cute so i wont

>>5070886
high test and dynamic pilled

>>5070894
good practice, some more anatomy study and you're out of /beg/.

>>5070845
tiny feet, tiny head, tiny waist. Hip area doesn't make any sense.
Draw your body before putting on clothing so you don't fuck up your proportions or worse you cope by hiding your shit anatomy behind the clothing.
Sloppy work, put more effort and planning in the construction stage next time.

>>5070890
you're nowhere near /int/

>>5070903
1. your lines are too thick
2. you sketch out too many lines instead of committing to defined shapes.
construct more precisely, it's easy to cope by scribbling/erasing lines until it kind of starts looking good to your eyes. It's a bad habit to have.
I can't critique this because you haven't committed to anything yet.

>>5070914
1. you're treating an ink brush like a graphite pencil
2. don't scratch out your lines, do long, purposeful lines.
3. eyebrows and eyelashes shouldn't be drawn as individual strands, especially not with your huge brush.
4. anatomy wise there are many inaccuracies, those can be fixed by observing the reference more carefully.
5. draw slower, don't rush the basic structures, don't add detail where you shouldn't add detail (wtf are those lines on her cheeks in the layer below).

>>5070921
worst thing is the anatomy, get the structure of the head correctly, draw the skull and facial features before drawing the hair.
less important but your brushwork is pretty bad, learn to blend properly.

>>5070903
the body is to thick her back is almost straight fused with her ass, you are missing the waist, mine isnt really good but you get the idea.

I cant believe how shit I was when I started

>>5071072
post it

>>5071072
Post your improvement to inspire us /beg/s

>>5071072
lol same, still trash though but god damn i was bad

>>5070704

>>5071064
Thanks for the feedback. Granted I only now read it after doing pic related, not content with it for obvious reasons.
I saved the lines separately and all so I'll go back to it at a later date, apply the feedback. I feel like I lose track of my reference if I sit on something for a longer stretch of time

>>5071064
thanks anon, but I feel like I still have a lot to do before escaping /beg/

>>5071077
>>5071079
Fun fact, I saw that sketch I did of the character in red a few days ago and thats the reason I drew >>5070603
Im glad I saved all this shit. The worst of the worst from the VERY first 2-3 days are such putrid garbage I cant believe my hands made them

>>5071093
Oh fuck me I made it way too big, sorry
>>5071088
That was a jokepost and I didn't expect it to be fixed up, but now it radiates loin moistening chad energy

>>5071081
where are your full bodies drawing sweety

recommend me a playlist since I learn better form videos than from books

>>5071100
Very first thing I drew "seriously"

>>5071088
PLAYED COLLEGE BALL YOU KNOW

Drawing for the day.

>>5071109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgIgizVpOtA

>>5071071
>>5071064
Does this look any better?

>>5071088

>>5071064
dynamicpilled-anon here. my plan is to do these exercises every day while throwing in some drawabox stuff maybe every other day. But, after maybe 2 weeks (I'm fine with taking a little longer than most would suggest, I want to feel comfortable and not like I have to meet certain deadlines), my main study focus being the RadioRunner's Curriculum. I like having a sorta standardized approach so I have an idea where to go. does this seem like a good plan?

>>5071156
Any plan is good if you actually stick to it.

>been grinding heads for the past week
>try drawing a few portraits from reference
>looks like shit
>get frustrated and switch to paper and pencil
>5x better
what does this mean for me, I've been using a non display tablet this entire time; should I get a display tablet? Or should I just stick with paper and pencil? I honestly started this entire thing hoping to do pure digital art.

>>5071110
thank god im done with /beg/

>>5071188
Take me with you

I tried to do a half hour time figure study. Couldnt do values in time. Am I too slow?

>>5071182
you might have a fancy mouse than a drawing tablet anon

>>5071088
4month fag i can recognize your shitty art. you finally done failposting?

>>5071193
can i try to redline it, anon? also /beg/

>>5070991
She could literally be holding anything anon come on. A book, a letter, a picnic basket, a purse, a CD WALKMAN like anything man. What would you want a cute girl to hold?
>>5071032
dorime
>>5070956
fix the mouth. tail is in an unappealing position. Extend the right side of the canvas to move the tail curling behind her back. It'll make her leaning posture more exaggerated and the give better flow.
>>5071081
hey you've got the right idea. Spend some time studying the skull and maybe watch a vilppu head anatomy video and it'll solidify what you're striving for.
>>5071096
suki desu
>>5071128
neat concept, basic approach
>>5071193
For now, yes. Try to break it up more anon. Have a day for the figure studies at 30mins a piece. Then another day go back to those figures and do value study. In time you'll get faster and more accurate. It's mostly repetition at this point.

>>5071215
I agree my approach is very basic. As I’ve stated before I’ve gone years at a time without drawing regularly (I don’t mean not doodling and such). My goal is to produce a drawing every single day no matter what so sometimes whatever’s on the stream of consciousness conveyor belt is what comes out.

Portrait study I did.
How do you incorporate different colors into skin and make it look natural and not like paint was smeared on it. Sinix make look so easy.

>>5071215
any observations about mine? >>5071042
perspective probably wrong as fuck, just "eyeballed" it, but give an approach about the body if possible

>>5071223
The color you think looks like “red” is actually a different hue but is very desaturated orange or a very desaturated violet.
https://youtu.be/4LhcNbFMkTw
This tldr pretty much everything.

>>5071225
>>5071042
As for perspective, good effort going for a background. Though it doesn't look like she's "standing" on anything solid. The floor is a little ambiguous. As for the body, the proportions are not well defined. Her left forearm is longer than her right. Her torso is too long too and she looks off balance. The chin should usually aligns with the center of balance. At least that's what I've been told. The gun looks like it's in two different perspectives and the wall it points to is so narrow, it looks like it would be phasing into the wall. Hope that makes sense. Keep drawing anon. Drawing and drawing and drawing. As long as you're giving it an honest effort you're gmi.

>>5071215
>What would you want a cute girl to hold?
deez nuts. i know, thanks for the suggestions, but still overthinking it, might even give her a gun at this point.
Gonna post another sketch tomorrow with my final decision.

>>5071241
thanks anon
strong gmi vibes here, time for the next drawing

>>5071193
>>5071214
i was waiting for you to give me permission, but anyway, here it is
you can ignore or curse me
im a /beg/ so don't take this seriously
sorry for everything

- anon

>>5071214
>>5071312
Looks good

hey bros i've only been drawing for 4 months and i can't beat kim gook gi
wtfff??????? how am i supposed to live after this embarassment?

Finally had time to color this guy, I hate how flat my drawings look when I color them digitally. I tried to use some textured brushes but it just ended up being really muddy. I'm finally getting comfortable with adding depth in line art, how do I 'add depth' with color/ make it look less flat without making it muddy?

>>5071357
This looks cool

Are there any good resources for learning digital art with Krita? I just got a drawing tablet and have tried out Krita, but i still think along the lines of physical art and need to learn how to take advantage of digital tools better? I feel like I am making a lot of mistakes and reading the manuals is too long but doing random stuff feels like a waste.

Any good YouTube series along these lines? I haven’t seen much for full series, only one off tutorials mainly.

I hate this general, i KNOW it's bad for my art skill progression, but I can't stop posting in it

>>5070727
The back and arm aren't supposed to be perpendicular, the back should stick out a little from the side view. Also your ribcage and chest anatomy are off, they are way to low. Start the beast were I drew the line

>>5070886
decided to do a tiny bit of practice before bed. didn't do all of them, but I feel like there was already a little bit of an improvement. but, the real test is months out from now to see where I am.

hair is really difficult for me

im probably gonna leave this one unfinished

>>5071371
maybe get something better than krita, CSP is all the rage right now
seriously tho I use krita but can't say it's complete or practical, I'd just watch a video from this guy https://www.youtube.com/user/DeevadRevoy (krita xmass welcome screen) if I want to see which tools he uses and learn that way or whatever else pops out when doing a yt search, so yeah I guess we're on the same boat sadly

>>5070814
Stop putting down random lines or at least spend some time on cleaning up your work. It's a mess.

>>5071371
ctrlpaint.com, krita has basically the same features as PS

>>5071439
boy that's cap

kek you guys weren't kidding that olson could explain perspective to a 4 year old

>>5071407
I’m an absolute beginner with digital art. Is it actually worth it to upgrade to clip studio paint if I’m just learning still? (CSP isn’t free for me, unless I’m wrong, I know some tablets get it bundled but not mine)

>>5071439
Thanks for the link

How do you copy something you like without feeling guilty??

idk

>>5071212
its nosebro

>>5071397

>>5071469
I just do it.
The artists you’re copying probably copied more than you.

>>5070361
OH NO I'M G-GONNA UGH IM G-GONNA FUCKING DRAAAAAAAW

>>5071606
I may have a shit taste, but I like it. Can you draw full figure next time?

This is my first ever animation, say something nice about it.

>>5071620
Not that bad, try to refine edges and add moar frames.

>>5071620
dont listen to anon above, its pretty bad; timing is off and no consistent form. you need more slow in and out

>>5071469
I just don't post it on social media and don't get paid.
Unless the whole point is tracing stuff and adding something else as a joke, and anyone can tell I copied it.

>>5071622
>>5071625
Remove two frames you say? Well okay.

learning to draw shadows on faces. how does the anatomy work there? can I use normal skulls as refs on anime heads? I mean the cheeks etc. looks much pudgier so it comes off as a bit odd. does this look correct?

damn this is fun as shit following along in a digital medium

>>5071615
i'll have to find a way

>>5071638
i just realized how scuffed my notes were for this method
the height for the second object is derived AFTER the reference point was found

WHEN DO I GET TO DRAW CARTOONS?

>>5071373
why? I'm going to start posting here since I never did, I want to dump galleries though. I don't see much point in posting a single image. I hope i'll get some good critique

where do I go from here

>>5071661
If I saw this image outside the context of it being on /ic/ I would not see anything wrong with it, it seems you have made it.

>>5070885
Too hasty
>>5071357
Cool

Drew gestures while drunk

Did warmup

>>5071661
Lain is cute (≧∀≦)

>>5071638
Good exercise anon

I have no clue how to draw with pastels, what the hell do I do with this

>>5071377
I’m gonna have to argue with you on this one. That’s just the rough sketch for one, for another I took anatomy and pose and posture are going to determine how much of the upper back are visible depending on that.

>>5071673
Very nice.

>>5071064

I did draw the body before putting the clothing.
Will study more proportions and spend more time in construction stage.

Thanks anon

>>5071661
Draw her NAKED

>>5071128
Seen this a couple of times now and that chest and breast drives me nuts.

perspective is fun smile smile

forgot to resize
perspective is fun smile smile

>>5071749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOoE-wTdsOQ (basics on an apple)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ-dlKfXCi0 (, Oil Pastels, some cool technique, carving into the pigment with a screwdriver)

>>5071859
Why?

>>5071893
Ribcage looks unnatural, too little volume near shoulder height,also looks weird at bottom connecting to breast.
Breast has too much shading for its size. A breast of that size would not make such a heavy curve that connects all the way to armpit

>>5071938

I draw a multitude of body types. Super muscular, unusually petit, even kinda fat.

You’re not providing a criticism which can be qualified - the rib cage compared to what? The breast compared to what (my wife has tiny tits and still has that line when her arms arch back). What body are you referencing that should qualify your criticism? There’s more than a few.

morning practice. it's nice to see slight improvements. I hope that I keep getting better and it's not just a lucky day.

>>5071996
Compared to what I can see when googling for references and what I can see when looking into mirror
The anatomy just looks weird to me and the proportions seem a bit off, I'm too beg to analyze much further than that. Just my observations, is all.

>>5072018
Good job, anon.

>>5072018
Why not just learn cursive and calligraphy to train your hand?

>>5072025
idk, I'm just following the beginning of drawabox and the Peter Han thing. I've tried teaching myself cursive back in the day and I just couldn't do it. I think part of it was because the only time I was writing was for class and so I could never get actual use out of it. Maybe I'll give it a shot again.

>>5071137
Bumping this

had to draw a street for something, how do i improve?

>>5071137
>>5072079
use thin lines, anon
you are lacking forms
the girl's head are figure drawed

How do I stufy james gurney's color and light?
There are stuff that feels irrelevant like the history of x or what mixing physical paints.
What am I meant to pay attention to?
What do I make notes on?

I need to go back to 24” paper.

Should I do faces for half hour timed figure drawings? Feel like I wasted 10 minutes trying for a face and just gave up and wasted 10 minutes.

>>5072179
If you’re weak at faces yes.

>>5072172
Nice Bulge

>>5072179
30 min is plenty of time to draw everything

tried eyeballing some 5-point perspective cubes. Anything I'm missing?

>>5071661
Post it on twitter

>>5072186
No homo I hate drawing clothing on great bodies male or female.

>>5071633
loomis

>>5072146
just skip the first chapter if you're really that pressed for time

>>5071606
Draw bigger or make your eyes smaller

Is it me or do all digital paintings look anime-ish or cartoonish?
I want to learn digital drawing but this discourages me, how feasible is it to draw trad art with digital tools?

Sorry guys. I know you wanted dick but it isn’t meant to be.

>>5072187
>>5072184
FUCK

>>5072224
How about the rest?
There's some sections where it just tells me a name and there's nothing really new that I didn't know.
Or there's nothing notable enough to write down.
What do I do then?
Do I still make notes on it?

I'm up to subsurface scatering.
I know what it is. I know it happens for more transparent objects.
What do I write for its notes?
Does it have notes?

>>5072245
that not bad just need to study on your weak points and you'll do it faster.

>>5072238 <- me

>>5072245
Here’s what you do. Just do the body drawings to enjoy yourself - but only to reward yourself after drawing faces. The most important thing is to draw. Clearly you can do form which - personally - I think is more important than detail. Form is big picture, the details can always fill in.

does anyone have a reference sheet for realistic face shapes with the light at different angles?

>>5072275
Try this website:

Google.com

>>5072277
https://www.google.com/search?q=reference+face+sheet+values&hl=en&sxsrf=ALeKk00aPFBmkeeA3mkTb5-bIIMHoLGK4Q:1608316466932&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOlMrdldjtAhU-F7kGHQsfCwoQ_AUoAXoECBMQAw&biw=1920&bih=1086

didn't help

>>5072250
if you want

i just use it as a reference book. like i was painting a sky so i read through the section on how the sky changes color depending on angle

>>5072237
if you just use some textured brushes you can prob get close enough, i painted pic rel and it looks close enough to my oil paintings lol

>>5072278
https://www.google.com/search?q=reference+face+lighting&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwi9wamNmNjtAhVJYM0KHc0-DWkQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=reference+face+lighting&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB46BAgjECdQgswBWILTAWCz1AFoAHAAeACAAYEBiAH2AZIBAzAuMpgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=r_jcX_2tOMnAtQbN_bTIBg&bih=1086&biw=1920&hl=en#imgrc=1AmLgPG9XpjxrM

>>5072286
thank you

>>5072235
like 4000x4000??

like 4 outta 4

>>5072253
>>5072255
Thanks for the feedback. I guess Ill try to focus on detail studies now

>>5072326
you should do both, maybe some timed gestures for warmup and studies after. Croquis cafe on vimeo have some good timed gestures videos.

>>5072331
Ill check it out, thanks

>>5072209
Already did

Any pointers on the face shape in particular? It just feels flat and I'm terrible at capturing shape in general.

>>5072237
Use the right brushes. most people rely on simple ones that just change size or opacity when you push the stylus harder and don't really emulate what happens when you do the same with a pencil.
Krita has more people doing custom brushes to emulate tools better than the vanilla version does than actual developers.

>>5072352

>>5072346
the nose and mouth area stick out of the face on their own shapes. The nose is some kind of trapezoid which top edges in some sort of X around your eyebrows and the mouth follows a sphere below your nose.

Shading does most of the job anyways

>>5072378
Thank you, based on this it looks like I'm maybe sunken in to the face just a little too much in terms of positioning?

Thoughts? Its the first gif I have made. Took me about 7 hours in total.

>>5072245
here's why it's weird, but nice job, anon! keep grinding

>>5072396
cool, anon but the sword it's weird

>>5072396
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_68etW0qJY

>>5072399
Of his goal is to make an exact copy that’s weird, but it’s still good form.

>>5072414
yea sure, i'm still /beg/ too, just pointing some things that went off since when we are too focused in some art, we don't notice minor errors at the time

How do you get over wasting time on a bad drawing?

>>5072456
by drawing more really. Look at your drawing and find out what is bad with it like the head is bad or the shading is bad, after that study that one thing and try to get better. Keep on repeating until your good enough.

>>5072391
Not really. Maybe the chin is off but otherwise just placing the parts at proper depth should improve it.

you probably want to sink the eyes a bit though, they're not at the same level as your eyebrows no matter what anime pretends.

>>5072224
thanks for the chart

Fucking hunchback of notre dame looking ass

>>5072346
do you know the artist that drew that poke girl?

>>5072018 here, I tried watching the first proko video since I'm trying to follow radiorunner curr. I am going to rewatch it again. This is my first ever gesture thingamabobber. Is this generally what I'm supposed to do?

>>5072509
that's her hip, her ass is hanging behind her

>>5072509
keep going fellow beg! try rounding the red lines/forms a little more. She's not hunchback, I've found that the more I do still life studies, the weirder human bodies can look. Just roll with it, it's natural. : )

>>5072421
Here’s the issue with that form of accuracy:

A good artist sees the big picture. It’s going to prevent you from completing anything if you can’t see the forest for the trees. 95% of what I produce is right out of my head and after I get the general form I select the details that need work. I’ve been at it for 36 of 39 years.

>>5072470
There are no bad drawings or failures. That’s like saying an experiment is a failure. It isn’t. You discover what variables aren’t the cause is all. Same with art. You figuring out what doesn’t work is just as important as knowing what does work.

>>5072534
I feel the time can be used more effectively when doing an art study that looks safer and is more comfortable to be drawn. I just feel bad after spending so much on a time on a drawing just for it to come out bad.

>>5072516
abnarie

>>5072532
nice, anon.
i'm also focusing in the entire image while doing the forms, but to get 95% of what i'm going to produce before starting the drawing will take time, i mean, i need to grind hardcore.

>>5072523
Another question for /beg/ when following the curriculum, it says to do the Croquis Cafe 30 days gesture session, which is it? the figuary?

>>5072534
I understand what you are saying but of course there are bad drawings. The end result is not what you want but you can learn from the process and improve from there.

>>5072538
Nothing is wasted if you learn from your drawing and improve. It is hard in the beginning but if you keep working on it one day it will click. Also I find taking a video course is easy to learn from, just look at the course thread and follow one of them.

>>5072534
Don’t burn out. You’ll just end up hating it and being impatient and frustrated is when you start taking shortcuts that cost quality.

>>5072600
For the few hundred really excellent pieces I’ve done there are thousands I would never show anyone. Literally thousands. But even though they’re junk I don’t consider them bad or failures, just variables I needed to change. A bad drawing is only bad if you show it in your portfolio.

>>5072635
>A bad drawing is only bad if you show it in your portfolio
chad art engineer

I don't get how people render metal

>>5072681

>>5071661
I don't know how you normally draw, but try not to stick the two fingers together like that, it's a crutch that looks strange outside of anime girls. Other than that, this looks nice.

>>5072526
I will
Do you guys care If i keep posting my studies? I feel like posting my stuff, even if I dont get response or critique motivates me
Im unsure how to start studying detail though

>>5072700
Forgot pic

>>5072700
I usually focus on one thing like hands for a couple of days and rotate it with other things I feel like I need work on.

>>5070368
Study how the skin is affected by light. Subsurface scattering. You could've taken the environment into account too. It looks like it's supposed to have lots of bounce lighting but the shadows say otherwise. Very confusing.

Did in a quick 45 seconds. Yepeee

>A Natural Way to Draw is a full year of 14 hour work weeks
>None of it is construction
Why is it ever recommended for anyone at any level? /beg/s don’t need that much work, and /int/s and up should be studying anatomy and construction.

>>5072754
You should take all advice given on /ic/ with a grain of salt.
You come here for unfiltered, harsh feedback and people finding every fault in your piece, not for the recommendations on teaching material that often miss the target.

Been drawing for under a week, my first decent face. Don't go easy on me.

>>5072813
well you tried, try this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

>>5072818
>tfw the video is longer than your total combined practice time
Thank you very much though, I'll be sure to watch the entire thing.

>Find cool reference image
>Try to construct it
>Looks like shit
>Trace over iamge and compare
How the fuck did I not see the tilt, am I fucking retarded

>>5072813
hampton design and invention

evenin peasants

kek basic perspective is just mathematical proofs

all the good nsfw artists like kevbot are Asian wtfffff literally genetics.

>>5071759
Her tits are still way 2 low

What's everyone's opinion on conté crayons? I've mostly stuck with graphite (and occasionally charcoal) and I've been looking for some new mediums to branch off into to practice value before dipping into painting in earnest.

Any tips for getting started with them?

>>5072892
Asians are just more autistic then most

Trying to add simple backgrounds and objects to some of my coom pics now.

I suppose she's either a giant or held prisoner by gnomes.

>>5072927
Those are the rectangular hard chalk like sticks right? IIRC they come in brown shades of different value, so I imagine you treat them as such. Painterly principles presumably still apply.

>>5072734
anon stop being autistic and post it
>>/data/ic/img/0050/70/1608333974085.jpg

omg I fuckin drew even tho I didn't feel like it today.

>>5072934
Last night's bedtime sketching.

>>5072940
>I didn't feel like it today
NGMI MINDSET.
>I fuckin drew
GMI MINDSET.

>>5072913
That’s an opinion not a critique.

>>5072944
Good stuff. All I did today was AHNULD

>>5072172
>>5072238
> No bulge
Shame Tsk

>>5072991
not /beg/

>>5072991
Sorry anon, no homo.

>>5072991
showoff

>>5072993
>>5073003
It's a fucking yugioh card anime study.
>>5073000
No homo

I’m so high!

>>5072818
not that anon but thanks for this

>>5073010
out of here
you are not /beg/
you have talent

>>5072991

careful, don't trigger schizo 4 months fag

I drew this bun

>>5073038
can i see, femanon?

anything wrong with this?

>>5073012
I don’t feel so good.

>>5073045

>>5073038
>>5073041
Nice. Now evolve it.

>>5073048
Nice colors. I use all off these before ;)

>>5073048
Draw this

>>5073044
Nose bridge should start at top of the eye not bottom

Bottom of lower lip should be halfway between bottom of nose and bottom of chin

>>5073044
Everything

>>5073044
Yeah

>>5073069
thank you

>>5073095
>>5073105
fuk u

>>5073108
Hey, you asked if there was anything wrong with it, you didn’t say to tell you what

>>5073044
study this image.

>>5073118
true I shoud have been more specific on what i wanted

>>5073126
UUUUOOOHHHH ok

Ran out of things to draw. At least hornet is easy to do but i still fucked her head up.

>>5073153
looks cool, would be fitting in a game

>>5073155
already is

>>5073156
wats the game

>>5073157
hollow knight. Pretty fun game i recommend

>>5073126
pls help

if my art wasn't used as /beg/ thread OP pic, does that mean I made it?

>>5073244
pyw

>>5073244
OP is always a faggot.

Made some quick sketch of Elizabeth Debicki.
She's so perfect bros.

>>5073126
i should've used some construction instead of "eyeballing" lines, kek

>>5073299
WHY IS MINE SO MUCH WPRSE

>>5073307
i fucked shit a lot too, anon
i guess my main error this time was not doing some construction, i just "eyeballed" the image

also, get more confident with your lines, anon, avoid doing too many random shit around because when you start the lineart, it will lack form

>>5073318
the gesture is off in yours making the pose much stiffer

>>5073318
Short, big neck. Large head.
Who's the OG artist?

>>5073326
anon, filename unless you're a phoneposter
74778486_p1

>>5073326

Pedo McPedostein

>>5073326
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/12318078/artworks
from saucenao

>>5073335
Thanks
>>5073332
I though the artist name was "master"
>>5073334
You can appreciate the beauty an innocence with out diddling them.

How should I start to learn value and rendering like this?

>>5073354
Identify shadow vs light
bounce light and shit

you honestly have to be very spoiled to pursue art

>>5073366
why? are you a third worlder?

>>5070752
How would you not symbol draw the eye in that case?

Drew this in a recent drawpile. I like how it turned out, but I'd like to know what I should look for/improve upon in future drawings.

>>5073412
Cute.

>>5072114
What do you need to improve specifically?
Breddy gud bro.

>>5073366
I think it depends on the context.
Frank Frazetta for example was born in a time where demand widely outstripped supply.
Nowadays it's a narcissistic desert.

My gold paint marker dried off

This looks so goddamn cool finished in my imagination that you wouldn't believe

>>5073366
better than transgender studies anon

>>5073318
>Gives little girl lude clothing
Uhhh anon....

I drew a cat

>>5073461

Threads dying so going to post this again. Anything jumping our as hideously wrong?

>>5073463
Not /beg/
Very loose but don't think you can hide your skill from me.

>>5072974
It's a fact you dumb cunt.

>>5073318
This is what I did

>>5073477
Left hand too big.

Can i get a red line? I was going for a slight low angle but I think i lost it.

>>5073544
Ah shit, still?

It's a fraction of the size it used to be.

First attempt at lips after watching Proko's vids about it

>>5071227
Holy shit! That video makes so much sense! Thanks friend

>>5073477
It looks like he doesn't sit on the couch.

>>5073600
Yeah that was something I struggles with. I can look at the sketch layer and see that the pelvic box is clearly places on the couch and that the bend and compression flows from the chest and onto it but once I add clothing things quickly fall apart.

I don't know. Maybe if I bunched his shirt up more closer to the waste to really show where things were being squished?

I think it was a mistake to place the bow and his puffy pants first. Should have placed the shirt first and if it got covered up later than I could have seen where I needed to exaggerate the folds in the shirt.

I don't know. Maybe I'm over thinking this.

Also maybe learning perspective would help.

Thanks for providing a good ref for future use.

I try to make light first lines but since I make so many mistakes they end up pretty dark. So I have problems further darkening them.
What do?

>>5073675
Practice.

>>5073675
lighten them up

>>5073617
Don't get attached with just 1 drawing. I suggest you to move on. See what you did wrong and apply it to new projects.
Always use ref.
https://as1.ftcdn.net/jpg/01/39/35/12/500_F_139351202_WYYCZthvL1vQ73G0yseLaRz6CqVKBpgY.jpg

How should one properly use reference? Copy it so close you can overlay it, or just use it to get jist of the pose and the anatomy and proportion?

>>5073843
Depends on what you want to do with it, but I would say learn from the pose and anatomy.

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>>5074119
>>5074119

>>5073755
Thanks man you're right. I'm going to use it to practice painting on, see what I can learn from that and then shelve it.

>>5073038
SOUL

>>5075229
Do you know how to sage?

>>5075232
do you think it matters when thread already hit bump limit and is in autosage?