/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5051064
Asian genes are real.
So is talent.
If you're born with both you're a god.

>>5051064
why shouldn't i lie on the internet?

>>5051064
you really don't think we've had enough of these threads?

Is no meme. But /ic/ likes to pretend talent isn't real as a cope mechanism

/ic/ is too beg to see that the one of the left is already really fuckin good

Looks like a normal improvement for 3 months, given that he already had skills.

https://note.com/enzen3852/n/na1fecd0ac10b
his blog with more details

>>5051088
this, the guy didn't started from 0, the left one is really good

>>5051102
kek hard cope

it's less 'asian genes' and more 'people who actually know how to study and apply themselves'

the difference is they know how to study effectively due to their culture. if you want to make excuses for yourself go ahead

he did this in just 10 days

>>5051108
man, if you try any harder you might hurt yourself

>>5051101
in 20 days
and
in 30 days

Based man, gives me hope

>>5051110
>'people who actually know how to study and apply themselves'
This, i wish i was more constant and focused in my studies but i despair too easily.

>>5051116
He got better in 10 days because he practiced. What exactly is new about this? Putting examples like this on a pedestal only sells that narrative further that it takes years to get even marginal improvement, it's the other way round. In one year of focused and purposeful practice you could go from 0 to pro, to at least getting a job level. It's the mastery, the nuance, the intuition and inventiveness that only come after half a lifetime or so of practice. The rest is rote practice and study.
GO FUCKING DRAW ANONS

>>5051116
Literally just looks like he put in more time and effort in the second one

>>5051128
Fuck that even a year sounds too long, try about six months. The major factor I think is getting objective critique, from you or a guide, and working on improving those specific problems immediately. Not making threads and complaining you 'just can't draw hands'; there's two right in front of you just study them, learn to break em down the same way Loomis breaks heads down. Oh look at that, improvement through guided study, do that every day rather than repeatedly drawing the same front or 3/4 view anime girl and you'll see the same improvement, but now I'm just projecting and I'm gonna practice some hands

>>5051128
>>5051135
based

>>5051064
After spending some time in Asia, being raised by asians, having asian friends, spending some time in the US and having gaijin friends, asian genes is just cultural and upbringing.

>>5051108
cope with what?

>>5051142
>>5051110
how do asians approach learning something?

>>5051156
>>>/asg/

It's over.

>>5051064
A little bit of both. Asian people have more holistic brain types on average. You can tell the difference by asking people to take pictures of themselves, Asians will take full body, atomistic will take facial portraits.
Why this is and if it's social or biological, we don't know.
The thing about holistic folk is that they tend to be more broad in artstyle, meaning they'll usually sketch out a whole body rather than focus on certain aspects, which for drawing works well.
Essentially, detail vs whole picture oriented.
There's also the fact that they continuously worked for 100 days. Most people don't dedicate that discipline.

Stop assuming it's all genes. Some of it is genes, some is social. If you think Asians have an advantage you're not taking into account the numbers. There are more Asian People than any other people. This means there are more asian artists than any other people. If there can only be 20 super artists in the world they're likely to be asian, not because of some asian genes or skill but because there's a huge glob of asian artists.

>>5051064
>early sketch compared with final piece
every time

>>5051064
yes asian IQ is a real thing, they will be better on average at every mental skill. Just cling to western creativity if you need some cope.

>>5051184
Eat shit, I drew daily for 4 months and never got to their 10 DAY PROGRESS
EXPLAIN THAT
TALENT IS FUCKING REAL
>>5051242

>>5051333

>>5051345
eAT EVEN MORE SHIT
FOR I DID THAT
FACE IT
ASIAN GENES AND TALENT ARE REAL

>>5051184
>Why this is and if it's social or biological, we don't know.
we do know it's not biological though? what the fuck are you talking about

>>5051064
How can you fucking retards believe these are remotely true? Even Japs themselves meme the hell out of these "totally legit" progress comparisons.

>>5051333
You dont know how to teach yourself then, therefore you dont know how to actually utilize the time you had, therefore you are still crap. There, explained.

>>5051360
post proof

Is there such a thing as Italian genes? Or are all Italians retards now

>>5051362
Holy fucking cope, deny asian genes and deny talent all you want you're still going to get fucked over it, 4 hours a day, many different courses and yet no progress.
TALENT IS REAL.

>>5051360
>full blog displayed
It's real, it's over, I kneel

>this level of line and expression in 50 days
/asg/bros,,,, meanwhile greysketch trannies can't even draw a full body in 3 years...

>>5051391
because this guy seek and accept criticism and changed his study according to critics

>>5051407
I did the same during 4 months, explain why I'm still fucking trash
You can't, it's all talent so accept it
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>>5051242
>>5051242

>>5051064
You only have to go against the statistic and beat suicide and you are golden

>Talent
>Neuroplasticity
>Asian Genes

Why do people look for every damn reason for why they can't draw as well as some other people when it's just practice and studying? Do pity parties feel that good?

>>5051411
it literally is.
who can be so foolish to believe that all humans' brains have the same capacity/potential/competence
you guys are just dumb as fuck, enjoy taking 5 years to go where smart people end up in 1.

>>5051422
I already know that, I want more people on this board to accept it and move on.
I have no talent for this wouldn't you agree?

>>5051064
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>5051415
Cope
Explain this
>>5051411
4 months
4 hours a day
Grinding fundies and courses
Nothing as good as his 10 DAY progress
It's over.

>>5051427
are you jerking off to people shitting on you?

>>5051433
No, I want to hear the truth. I want to know it's over I need to know it's over.
My 4 months don'r

I think it's being raised on moonrunes and their work ethic
also they have auto squint

>>5051407
Can someone translate the image? Or at least tell me the context and what the guy is pointing out?

>>5051436
the truth is you're an attention seeking retard with autism so of course its over for you.

>>5051442
I'm not attention seeking, I'm exposing the lie that talent is not real.

>>5051432
sounds like you need some coping
just go draw, man

>>5051445
everybody knows people like you are bad at everything, you aren't exposing anything.

>>5051064
It's not that good if you look closely at his 100 day drawing. The clothes folds are badly painted over and have no volume drawn. Plus no detail. There's no local shading behind the clothes. The clavicles are painted horribly. Hand (one) is pretty good. The ear shading needs work. The background is nice but nothing spectacular or impressive. What is especially telling is the painting in the clothes; he needs to work on observation of real cloth folds and how the volume of light and dark is created.

>>5051445
You should use that autism to actual learn instead of being such a faggot.
Even assuming talent is real you absolutely don't know if that work is your limit or not. Imagine if you gave up to learn how to speak because talent is real and there are toddlers who learn at 6 months instead of 1 year.

>13 years old
NOOOOOO
https://mobile.twitter.com/Achoooshi

>>5051445
I don’t think anyone responding to you cares if talent is real or not; regardless of your stance on it there’s no harm in giving art another shot with a clear, critical mind.

>>5051345
this should be stickied lol

>>5051441
i cant really read hand written moonrunes yet so i can only make out some of them
on the first image
noting about the unnatural side bangs and asked if its his style or not(and apparently its just his style)
noting about the nose being abit too far to our left
about the ears abit too high
neck contour and shoulder/torso proportion

second image
something something about eye size
about the earlobe being too big
and shoulder and torso anatomy

>>5051064
Bit of a disingenuous comparison in that one is a quick doodle and the other is a fully painted illustration. Also this just goes to show you that the reference meme is real. All of the finished pieces this person posted are heavily referenced and look way better than the stuff they were doing from imagination. This board refuses to properly use reference and then wonders why they're not improving.

>>5051482
Reference and copying are essential to learning. We can't imagine what we don't experience with our senses first, nor imagination is so vivid and clear that you can see a full fledged anime girl in your mind but most of the time a blurred mess with some striking features. /asg/ thing about tracing/copying and then redoing from memory after some time passed alongside fundies grinding and studies it's probably the way to go. After some time even if you are not actively thinking about the drawing your mind should achieve its own conclusion simply by comparison from your work vs reference.

>>5051312
Dude what if anime art is IQ based, that's why whites can't draw anime right?

>>5051345
based tethia poster

>>5051461
>pure tween edge
Holy based. Anyway her art is shit she just covers it up with pretty colours

>>5051116
>they plateau'd on day 10
LMAO

>>5051479
Thanks based anon

>>5051391
>>5051407
>Bust shot after bust shot after bust shot with one or two figures standing stiff as a board
>/ic/ kneels and consneeds
The absolute state

>>5051503
Stupid jealous white man

>>5051499
Yeah its a crazy theory but I think that thinking and doing things with your brain is IQ based.

It’s because our parents beat the shit out of us if we wasted time with a hobby and weren’t at least great. Russians are the same.

>>5051514
all those missing feet and hands lmao

>>5051064
Asian genes are a meme, but asian writing systems are not. They get great mechanical skills from young age whether they want it or not. You can even see the influence if you compare drawings of different kinds of asians- japanese art is generally sharp and swoopy, koreans are bold and angular, thais are more curvy and bubbly, all of that mirrors their writing systems. Everyone is a latent artist already, so they can focus on consreuction.
Latin alphabet is shallow and forgiving in comparison, even if your education included cursive you have a lot of catching up to do. If it did not, like is increasingly common nowadays... Just drop art altogether, you'll never make it.

>>5051116
hory shit I just realized he uses the same technique for measuring the body as I do and it took me 10 years to discover it.

>this kills the SrGrafo

At least he can live off all those numale redditbux

>>5051544
he said this was the first book he studied
https://e-hentai.org/g/1691625/a664c84b34/
probably learned it from there

>>5051544
lol retard

>>5051555
He simply went full coomer instead of striving to improve.

>>5051556
what the fuck that's cheating, their art textbooks look fun and have cool weeb shit in it. I had to read smelly loomis and agonize over medical anatomy diagrams.

>>5051578
there is an official english translation although i don't think it's uploaded anywhere yet
https://superanius.com/products/stonehouse-anatomy-note

>>5051622
Nice, ill keep an eye out for when it gets scanned. I wish I had this kinda stuff when I was still a student. This guy is Korean but when I went to japan I was really jealous of all their art books.

I hope you negros actually take notes on proper study methods from threads like these and apply them instead of seething.

>>5051407
Where the fuck do I get criticism? /ic/ either ignores my posts or I get the same retarded memes with no context

>>5051689
Gimme a study summary so I can improve.

>>5051705
This is my question too

I think the only issue is a lot of people that do these I did this in x number of days posts sometimes lie and post some unfinished doodle and say they started from there but dont mention previous things they did and or are flat lying. I remember one jap on twitter got caught by a crab by his dates not matching by what he said. Did this guy actually probably improved so fast? Sure. Who knows. Some people learn faster than others and some are better than others, but likewise I dont understand that anon from earlier saying you should give up. People here need to stop focusing on other's journies. Someone's better than anyone else.

>>5051711
Even worse on top of that is that sometimes the only ones giving critiques are the dunning kruger crabs giving the worst red lines.

>>5051716
Sad and true

>>5051391
>>5051407
>when you get proper mentorship from artists that actually know their shit

>>5051064

>>5051705
Get an art friend who's better than you

I kneel

>>5051391
woah, the expression...
loomis is fucking done, bros

>>5051577
we’re all gonna go full coomer to compete against the Asian jeans

>>5051064
Why does the left look better to me? Am I just retarded?

It's over bros...the dream is dead.

>>5051705
>getting criticism from /ic/
here's the problem

>>5051796
severely retarded

>>5051064
>First time on /ic

Is it just me or all you guys do is cry about talent?
Are all posts going to be like this?

>>5051843
>crying about talent
>crying about Asian jeans
>crying about coomer art
>crying over patreonbux

>>5051847
Shit, i think i'll go back to /co

>>5051831
Why do people take this shithole seriously? All you do is shitpost the same old talent memes and /pol/ bait.

>>5051857
damn.....i was hoping to find some drawing bros that arent faggots (twitter) in here.......

>>5051849
Honestly it's better there than here. You actually have conversations about a hobby/career.

>>5051064
>>5051101
>>5051116
>>5051123
>>5051391
>>5051407
>>5051785

>drawing literally the exact same face with little to no change in poses over and over
you fucks using this as a cope is laughable

Do you faggots never have noob gains?

>>5051064
The reality behind the meme is the simple fact that asian kids doodle way more in anime style because they are inundated by it from a young age. Even childrens' anime tends to have an anime style(as opposed to western where most cartoons are poorly drawn blobs and caricatures) and reading manga is very common from early childhood all the way to mid-teens. So basically asian kids can always be practicing the anime artstyle when they doodle, which they often do because of the extreme prevalence of anime and manga in their lives, and get much more practice growing up as a result. "Asian jean" shit doesn't apply to realism much or stupid impressionist caricatures. Simple as that.

>>5051705
this >>5051756 is what he did
the redlines from here>>5051407 are from his friends


also he paid some pros to critics his piece at some point

Why are Asians so racist?

>>5051391
I’m pretty sure this guy downplayed his abilities in the beginning just to make the “transformation” more dramatic. Or he has practiced a lot before and then went a few years without drawing and got really rusty, then regained skills really quickly.

>>5051891
they just needed to add a mutt flag and it would be perfect

>>5051345
what is mindless practice?

>>5051914
just doing the same shit over and over again, not analyzing your practice result, not moving on to the next topic(perspective/value/anatomy/learning the tools/etc)

>>5051895
Nah bro, make the guy wear an american flag tshirt, now that's the icing on the cake.

>>5051914
It's like jamming materials in one go for a test in the next day or in a couple of minutes and forgetting all of it after, but 10 times worse.

there's not a single person in my family who's /bad/ at drawing; none of them are artists but they're miles better than stuff i've seen from my peers. obviously small sample size and no shit, any "gene" would be carried in a family and that family may not be representative of an entire race, but what the hell is anecdotal evidence on a finnish pottery forum

t. korean engineering student

>>5051536
>smartest and most logical post gets ignore
Everytime

>>5051184
>Asian people have more holistic brain types on average

source: it was told to you in a dream

>>5051891
fucked up shit drawn in cute cartoony style is a genre in itself, there's no way the artist didn't know what he was doing lmao

>>5051128
>>5051135
Shhh let the competition fall for the fallacies
If they don't prevail past eveen this much then they don't deserve to eenter the feild

>>5051891
What's racist about this? A parent whip his child. It's more about domestic violent.

Talent = IQ

Anything below 120 will have it rough

If asian memes are real why does manwha art look kinda weird?

>>5052195
technically 119.6 according to some study I read, but close enough really

>>5052207
An IQ is an IQ, you can’t say it’s only a half

Why does he only dra wone girl?? Is he in love with his own creation???

>>5052217
*draw one

>>5052195
My ex had an IQ of 140 and she was incredibly talented but used that intelligence to manipulate people because of pre-existing mental and emotional issues. I kind of get the feeling that high IQ women are incredibly rare because they got murdered by their cavemen husbands or avoided altogether.

>>5051064
Left isnt bad just messy and sketchy right is just rendered really good. I mean its a pretty basic piece shouldn't have took more than a few hours. Besides she probably used a really messy sketch for day one on purpose to make right look alot better in comparison. I can grab a drawining I did 2 years ago where it was basically scribbles and compare it to something I did last week and you would see a huge difference even though my skill hasn't improved alot.

>>5051064
who cares bro, I hope asian genes are real, the more we have talented people in the world the more we increase
the chances of getting some great artwork. This field would be so depressing if the ONLY thing we do as artists is to
constantly compare ourselves with others.

Some 14yo is milkin pro level art every 2days? great! imagine the great art they gonna make at 30.
Some got better than you within 100 days? guess its time to copy them.

what im trying to say is its ok to pissed off by talented people, thats how human nature works but i dont think wasting time
on this shit you would gain you anything worthy, now excuse me i have a coomer thread to make.

>>5051093
lol fuck off

>>5051064
>>5051116
Literally Chris-chan's nemesis

>>5052240
Post her art.

>>5051064
You guys want to know the asian gene cheat code? The secret is culture, oppression and work ethnics.

Asian culture tend to look down on artists as good for nothing. Or in "waste of rice".

Only asian elites likes art and they buy art to show off wealth.

Oppression, because we are shit on by others and our own parents. "Why you not doctor? Why you different? Why do i have such a stupid child!"

Work ethnics, it is all about working your ass off and keep working till you ded attitude.

Imagine living in an asian household, you get hit by your parents all the time. They beat you, scold you and put you down everyday. Zero encouragements. Everything you do is being shit on.

The only thing that kept you sane is your art and characters.

So as an asian you either really want to be an artist and work your ass off, draw 16 hours a day. Or you conform and become a doctor, lawyer, accountant, banker etc...

That is why most asian artists are so insanely good. They are born from hardship and bitterness from both internal and external struggles.

Not all asian parents are shit but most asian parents are...

>>5052438
beat me to death daddy <3

>>5052438
that cant be it. black people beat their children all the time but they rarely turn out to be good artists

>>5052449
Comparing asian with black is like comparing elves with orcs.

>>5052438
No. Asian jeans, as funny as a meme it may be, is completely false. Only the good art makes it to the western bubble of culture. Everything garbage stays within their own boundaries; I mean, why would garbage art make it across the cultural and language barriers? The vast majority of asian artists, just like western artists, are absolutely awful.

>>5051536
Neat observation

>>5052455
When I was a kid my mum told me that I was shit at art and when I asked why some kid was better than me she said that asian kids would start going to artschool as 2 year olds/3 year olds (that was when my mum started educating me in maths, by the way) and that if I had started art education in the asian system I definitely wouldn't have a unique art style (an academic art style instead, since I suppose you wouldn't get any chance to symbol draw if you started getting loomised as a toddler). She also said that zero asian artists are talented and it's all trained up from scratch and that none of them ever work from imagination. And that also the best artists are western artists because any western artist hasn't been trained in art since they were a toddler and so it's more likely they are naturally gifted if they are good.

Asian parents also see art as basically worthless so you have to be really goddamn good not to go into a directly money making field.

>>5052402
I can't. We broke up a few months ago, and what art I can post is well-known and public and would point to her immediately.
I will tell you though that she did the main theme for APEC within the past 10 years.

>>5051544
What is this technique? can someone spoonfeed me

>>5052473
but she is wrong. asians being trained from a young age is very rare, and i notice westerners are often sitting on the laurels of old masters when they say westerners are better at art (who btw were trained since they were young) cuz what are westerners even up to now with regards to art? i suppose capeshit. a lot of western painters today also paint from life. still life, landscape painting, portraiture, figure drawing, wildlife art, all still popular in western art today.

>>5052165
guessing its a hapa kid wishing she was in japan with her mom, but need more conext

>>5052473
Don’t know about the validity of the rest of your story but this part
> Asian parents also see art as basically worthless so you have to be really goddamn good not to go into a directly money making field.

Seems true from my experience.

>>5051622
>No scans? Guess I'll buy it and scan it myself
>Only ships to muttland and leafland
Why do these fucking retards hate money?

>>5051064
its not genes its culture. Asians only have 1 hobby at a time. this dude goes home after school or work and draws for 8 hours a night. he doesn't have friends he doesn't play piano. he doesn't play video games. he doesn't watch porn. this is all he does.

im not saying all asians are like that but that is how the "talented" ones develop their talent. i lived in japan with a host family for a year. i've seen it not just in my host family but with other students in school.

It's not like America at all. In America I was mediocre at 10 different things. That's how all of my friends were. Anyone great at something is a complete obsessed sperg about it.

>>5052756
that’s the mutt distributor,
try this one https://www.liberdistri.com/en/accueil/438-stonehouse-stonehouse-s-anatomy-9791197005107.html

>>5051065
tim bougami would like a word with you.

>>5051064
I feel it has more to do with their complex writing symbols. They learn from an early age to pay attention to the proportions and relations of their lines/strokes. Decades of repetition of paying attention to small details building a skillset that's useable for art. By the time they pick up drawing they're already able to perceive the world around them and accurately put it onto paper. The rest of us grew up writing using lines, curves, circles, and semi-circles of full or half-height, our letter systems aren't nearly as complex.

It's not that they're smarter or talented, just that they dump years of effort into learning skills that are able to be utilized for art.

>>5052873
that's absolutely ridiculous. Do people with good handwriting draw well from the beginning?

>>5052873
it takes a couple of months to learn radicals at most and the stroke order is so systematic you put literally zero thought into writing, it’s just automatic
I studied japanese language and literature as my major, speak and write japanese, and not a single person in my class could draw, or is there anything writing japanese did for me
I am convinced only mutts believe this bullshit because they got cucked out of cursive so they see anything more complex than type as magic

>>5052881
>>5052895
I'm not saying learning one single thing will make someone an artist, only that everything we learn and do will give us a slight advantage or a headstart. I'm saying it gives a particular focus for details when they do begin to draw seriously.

>>5052919
yeah, and I’m saying you’re fucking retarded and speak from a place of ignorance, not knowledge

>>5052895
i for one am more interested in the effects of being a kanji user, a kanji tsukai?, has on the brain. i notice one has to be more aware of connections between concepts with japanese because it is mostly tied to concepts. i think a brain that is made accustomed to that is at an advantage because the more connections one can make the easier it is to learn.

>>5051101
I'm guessing the 2000 means 2000 drawings?
This is completely achieveavle in 2000 drawings. It's about the number of drawings you've done, not the time you've been drawing. With the improvement I've made myself after 500 in a month and a half, I fully believe this level is possible after 2000.

>>5052961
that's 20 days anon

plus he gobbled up 650page anatomy study book in 10 days with pure autism in a good way

>>5052941
first of all, no, kanji is a fucking mess because initially they wrote in chinese, then started writing japanese with chinese characters and arbitrarily used them based on association, meaning, reading, etc so you’d have a sentence use a character 5 times with no rhyme nor reason as to how it’s meant to be tread or what it means, and that’s the point from which the japanese writing system developed
if you wanted a population with ingrained use of ideograms, chinese would be the better candidate, and even then not really

>>5052452
comparing welsh people with middle eastern people is like comparing hobbits with easterlings

>>5052976
are you saying hobbits fuck sheep and easterlings fuck goats or am I missing something

>>5051519
I’m a black boi though

>>5051064
Might actually start this challenge too, how many chances do you think I have bros? Today I drew Pic related

>>5052931
You're thinking about this in terms of being an adult who knows how to write and already into art, not as a child just learning about how to put lines on paper.

Anger and insults make you sound like a ngmi, do you get rage at your sketchbook when something doesn't come out right too?

>>5052873
芸

>>5052991
>h-he called me a retard
>t-that means he’s angry and I’m right
lol kys fag

>>5052995
Rather than discuss a point, you focus on the insult. You could do both, but you don't. You make fun but fail to deny that you're mad, also don't disagree with raging at your sketchbook when things don't come out right, and don't deny that you're a ngmi.

>>5053002
I already laid out all arguments outside of calling you a retard, retard
learn to read
I’m not replying again, find someone else to feed your longing for social contact

>>5053009
spoken like someone who doesn't have any "arguments" left to say.

>>5052972
2000 in 20 days? This nigga is cranking out 100 a day? If there is an Asian gene, it's worth ethic.

>>5053024
do you see anyone besides you mentioning 2000 drawings?

>>5053024
It says 20日目, not 2000

>>5052873
we have to dig deeper
people recognize each other by pattern of shadows their face features make
asians have smaller noses, shallow eyesockets overall flatter faces, meaning shadows on their faces are subtler, meaning their eyesight develops in a way that makes perceiving these subtleties better
surround yourself with harem of hot asian girls and you will GMI in no time

>>5052972
Sorry for a retarded question but how do you really study from a book like this? Do I just redraw the illustrations?

>>5053035
you were on the right track, but you got lost in the mist
asians have narrow slits for eyelids
you squint when you want to see value shapes
asians are always squinting

>>5053036
no, you’re supposed to copy the text with a calligraphy brush
obviously it only works if it’s written in japanese, not ngmi alphabets

>>5053033
>日目
What's that mean? Day 20?
>>5053026
Clearly I was mistaken, I don't speak moon runes.
Still 2000 is completely achievable in a 100 day period, and after 2000 referenced drawings you will be able to draw on this level. Maybe less.

>>5053047
It means 20th day

if you want to see if the "asian genes" meme is real or not just try to improve this much as well in 3 months. it cant hurt you

>>5052455
This. If /ic/ took a break from cooming / malding to their favorite gatcha artists on Twitter for five minutes and browsed the Most Recent section of Pixiv, they'd see that there's just as many shitty, deviantArt tier asian artists as there are for every other demographic.

I'm starting to think that 99% of /ic/ doesn't even study. They just try to draw a single image, get mad, and then give up for the rest of the week before eventually deciding to try again, all while looking for an excuse to either give up or prove that they'll make it without having to work hard.

>>5053133
pixiv is a great site to see the talent meme isnt true. Theres a ton of japanese aka the profiles speaking japanese posting mediocre art. Btw if you already are giving up by looking at someone else's art you're ngmi.

>>5052973
im not talking about ideograms. just that a word will use the kanji for a sound and it will show up in another word that has that sound. obviously that is simplifying. i know they very often represent multiple sounds depending on the context with often one dominant on reading. or that a kanji sounds this way because of that component and make a connection that another kanji sounds the same because it has the same component. also in english we have words that we take for granted to mean what they do. in japanese it is "spelled" out using stand ins for concepts. particularly those that use multiple kanji. i say stand in because symbol may make it seem like i am talking about ideographs or pictographs.

>>5051064
this is just an example of how much heavy lifting rendering can do to an otherwise terrible piece of lineart.

>>5053133
Nobody is saying every single Asian person is automatically amazing at art, the claim is that they are on average 1-2 standard deviations better than everyone else, this would cause them to be over represented in the highest tiers. To figure this out you would have to a sample of a thousand random artists on pixiv and compare them to an equivalent deviant art sample.

>>5053153
>in japanese it is "spelled" out using stand ins for concepts
it isn’t, that’s why I pointed to chinese, since it’s closer to what you seem to be imagining japanese to be
japanese just took the chinese system and applied it willy nilly
there are SOME kanji that function that way, but the vast majority of words are completely disassociated from the constituent radicals/kanji, and are often actually counterintuitive because they are built by elements based on their chinese meaning, which is not what they actually mean in japanese

>>5052991
The "complex" symbols are just the same small set of radicals that kids learn to write through repetition over and over, the hard part is remembering what they mean. Asian kids are straight up taught how to write the characters using grid method but go on, tell me how literal symbol drawing and grid method is a "skillset" for learning how to draw and that's why you can't improve.

>>5053179
Except they're not. The entire point of that post is that as a westerner (You) don't get to see all of the bad art that gets posted in JP circles because you're not digging into JP art websites. There are probably JP malders out there right now that are convinced that are convinced every westerner is some sort of anatomy-internalizing HD lighting render-god because the only western art they see are high-detail capeshit pencils, MOBA / WoW splash screens, and hyperrealistic game art.

Seriously, go browse pixiv. There are trash artists all over the world. Believing that asian artists are just "naturally" 1-2 deviations above everyone else as a whole is cope-based thinking meant to address inadequacy that can easily be removed via study.

> To figure this out you would have to a sample of a thousand random artists on pixiv and compare them to an equivalent deviant art sample.

Except one website is way bigger than the other, and is thus going to have a larger chance of displaying bad artists. Many bad JP artists probably aren't posting on pixiv to begin with.

if you want to Actually get mad we have @idoukunn in the ring. https://grapee.jp/en/136797
just 2 years.

>>5053195
I never said they definitely were or that it was genetic or that it would be easy to prove, your claim they aren't at all is based on a feeling and probably a defensive one if you aren't asian. We are only really concerned with the higher levels of achievement, it remains a fact that the lone country of japan contains more talented artists than most of the world combined, most artists and art forms that are admired by this forum are of east asian origin.

I don't look at shitty art, I dont browse deviant art or pixiv, ill look at artstation every now and then and almost always the most impressive artists I find will be asian or eastern european. I have no sense of self worth wrapped up in this argument, only that my experience tells me they are better.

>>5052987
Those boobs

>>5053230
not even him, but you’re fucking retarded if you think nippon has even a fraction of the world’s best painters, let alone most of them
>inb4 good art is just animu

>>5051407
We are all fucking crabs,we could have this but instead we choose to be egotistic faggots

>>5053230
> I never said they definitely were or that it was genetic or that it would be easy to prove
I never said you said that.

> your claim they aren't at all is based on a feeling
So is the claim that they are.

> and probably a defensive one if you aren't asian.
I'm confident in my art anon. I don't need to be asian to be good, and neither do you, or anyone else.

> We are only really concerned with the higher levels of achievement, it remains a fact that the lone country of japan contains more talented artists than most of the world combined
[citation needed]

> most artists and art forms that are admired by this forum are of east asian origin.
That's fine. I like anime too. In fact, I like it so much that I would rather learn how to draw it than develop a weird complex over being unable to match the style because I'm asian, or something.


> I don't look at shitty art, I dont browse deviant art or pixiv, ill look at artstation every now and then and almost always the most impressive artists I find will be asian or eastern european. I have no sense of self worth wrapped up in this argument, only that my experience tells me they are better.
If you don't go looking for bad art, then of course you're not going to find any.

Most amazing thing is he only did 1 hour a day too

just a cultural difference. they respect the idea of being a pro instead of just being an "artist" and bullshitting around for years

>>5051064
The guys over in /mmg/ seem to be doing just fine without asian jeans.

>>5051064
he is born in a society not fucked up (yet) by jews, so he started focusing on proportions (like you should) from the first 10 days. And not waste time on finding himself, or whats unique to him, or the perfect learning materials tailored just for him, or "just draw"-ing. Everything else just falls into place

>>5053169
this

>>5053299
> the jews fucked up my ability to draw!

Absolutely pathetic.

>>5053241
shitty art doesn't matter because it's irrelevant to my conclusions. Which industries house and train the most technically and artistically accomplished 2d artists? With the death of skilled fine art it's just within the entertainment industry. Japan and Korea are completely overrepresented in the entertainment industry considering their size. Japan has a healthy manga, animation and videogame industry and combining the artists in these fields it is a fact they have more skilled, professional artists than most of the world combined.

>>5053324
>With the death of skilled fine
>t. never set foot into a gallery
There’s no “death of skilled fine art”, retard

>>5053324
> shitty art doesn't matter because it's irrelevant to my conclusions.
Shitty art is what we're talking about anon. This is the argumentative equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalala I'm not listening."

> Japan and Korea are completely overrepresented in the entertainment industry considering their size.
This has nothing to do with "how many good artists" there are in a population, as it assumes that all "good artists" will be working in those fields, which is not the case. Also, weebs tend to overestimate how popular anime / manga is in the west (even though it is growing in popularity) while simultaneously underestimating how popular western media is in the east (big American tentpole blockbusters are and long have been huge events in the east, with major voice actors being signed on to dub over things like the Avengers), so you'll need actual data regarding relative popularity for me to buy this comparison.

> Japan has a healthy manga, animation and videogame industry
The US has a healthy videogame industry. The US and UK have the biggest SFX industries on the planet. France has tons and tons of animation studios. More and more inbetweening and sakuga is being done by South Americans and western freelancers. Comics are going strong in Europe and long have been. What's your point?

> combining the artists in these fields it is a fact they have more skilled, professional artists than most of the world combined.
Saying this repeatedly without hard numbers doesn't make it any more credible.

>>5053316
The fags here will come up with any excuse to not draw, lmao.

>>5053244
>650 page anatomy study book in 10 days doing 1 hour a day
If it were reading only I would dig it easily, but if it involves drawing the entire book as well I find this very hard to believe unless I'm missing something.

>>5053366
>i would dig it
nigga, there’s literally 0% chance of you learning anatomy at less than a minute per page even if you were just looking at the pictures

>>5053336
you're not listening to what im saying, if some group is completely over represented in the highest tiers of achievement its tracks that they are 1-2 standard deviations higher on average.

the vast majority of good artists do in fact work in professional fields and the only fields that value high skill 2d art are the entertainment industry. Random hobbyists who happen to be amazing are statistically irrelevant if they even exist. For every 100 employees in a video game company you employ a handful of artists, this is the only industry along with live action film where the west out competes japan and it employs a limited number of artists, Japan's output here is still unnaturally high, and undoubtedly the highest per capita. 3D FX farms do not employ large numbers of 2d artists, its shitty slave labor.

The most important industries are comic book and animation for training the kind of talent we are discussing, France is the only western nation who has anything resembling Japan and its not even close, France does not have tons and tons of animation studios. Comics are not going strong in Europe they are completely dead outside France.

>>5053244
>>5053366
he said
>allocating 1 hour for drawing is to force you to start drawing without any distraction
>in my case, aside from my mental fatigue, i have alot of free time after i come home, so im not using predetermined schedule to draw and just draw

>>5053403
>hurr durr if I repeat myself it means i’m right
post your numbers

>>5053330
I go to art galleries all the time what universe do you live in where they are displaying technically accomplished art in any sense?

>>5053403
You just keep assuming random stuff.

Anyway, I don't really have any more time to go back and forth on this. If you want to doomer about asian jeans then that's a (You) problem. I have drawing to do and progress to make.

>>5053413
Depends on location but check your local galleries and even some libraries. There's a local watercoloring / plein air circle in the region where I live and they do wonderful work and have lots of small exhibitions of extremely talented landscape paintings.

>>5053409
>>5053415
over 400 animation studios in japan alone, on Wikipedia I count 30-40 in France, of which I'm sure some barely even qualify. They are the most notable western nation in this area.

Manga market is worth 4billion dollars vs the entire american comic book industry with is barely over 1billion, outside america France and maybe italy are the only western nations who are relevant, I don't have data for this but its not going to be larger than america. Combined it is doubtful they match japan alone.

just random, irrelevant stuff I guess.

>>5053436
>best artists
>hurrr market value of industry
cool, I guess sakimichan is a better artist than all of japan then since she earns 7 figures a year lmao

>>5053436
>completely sidestepping aforementioned SFX / film and game industries that make up the primary drivers of art employment in the west

ok dude.

> 3D FX farms do not employ large numbers of 2d artists, its shitty slave labor.

who do you think does the film concept art lol

>>5053449
I'm done, you're fucking retarded. This is about the number of artists in the country which obviously increases with market size and has a direct correlation with the amount of skilled artists in the country.
>>5053451
yes, please show me all the highly skilled 2d artists inside these 3D SFX factories who are all Chinese anyway. remind me how many concept artists work on each film? it must be hundreds according to you since they employ just as many 2d artists as an animation studio.

>>5053436
>>5053451
Also worth noting a lot of western art employment is in graphic design and advertising.

>>5053453
> This is about the number of artists in the country which obviously increases with market size

>>5053453
> This is about the number of artists in the country which obviously increases with market size and has a direct correlation with the amount of skilled artists in the country.

I guess the 11 billion dollar turnover of the US film industry last year means we have way more artists than japan then

>>5053454
yes, we all look up to the amazing art contained in western advertising and graphic design, it's totally harboring all our secret artistic talent.

>>5053462
You realize high-profile studios in both the east and the west like Titmouse, Studio Trigger, Aardman, Laika, A-1 Pictures, and more all partake in advertisements and contracted commercial work, right?

>>5053453
>has a direct correlation with the amount of skilled artists in the country.
prove it
>this is about
no, this is about you claiming jon has more top artists than the rest of the world, then pretending shit tier anime assistants are top artists

>>5053461
no it's not correlated the same way because each manga is the direct result of an artist and makes much less than any given Hollywood film. A high income does indicate a larger number of skilled working artists.

>>5053467
top artists are always going to be a percentage of professional artists, larger pool means more top talent.
>>5053466
what is this disingenuous pedantic shit, Nobody looks up to them because of their advertising work, they admire their 2d animation skills, you and me both know its not even remotely the same situation with advertising in the west.

>>5053469
>no it's not correlated the same way because each manga is the direct result of an artist

TIL films aren't made by artists and instead appear fully formed out of the money pits of film executives whenever large amounts of money are lightly jolted with the right amount of electricity.

>>5053474
> what is this disingenuous pedantic shit, Nobody looks up to them because of their advertising work, they admire their 2d animation skills, you and me both know its not even remotely the same situation with advertising in the west.

what part of "there are skilled studios and skilled artists working in advertising" do you not understand

do you know where small studios get the majority of their money?

>>5053473
the last starwars film made 1 billion dollars, matching the entire american comic book industry and they used what 10-20 concept artists max? fuck off with your stupid equivalencies.

>>5053475
>>5053474
Can both of you brainlets take this shit to reddit or go draw

>>5053480
Alternatively, maybe your desperate attempt to equivocate market size to the amount of artists in a country's population is severely flawed and generally idiotic.

>>5053481
No point in drawing without asian jeans anon, sorry. We should all just give up now.

>>5053481
im drawing while i shitpost

>>5053480
>japan has better artists because their comics earn more money and bigger market - more skilled artists
>wtf you can’t ring movies into this that’s not fair more money doesn’t mean more skilled artists
lol

>>5053494
What possesses you to argue about increasingly esoteric and pointless shit? At this point it has nothing to do with the initial topic which was already a dumb thing to argue about. Go and draw.

>>5053486
go on /fa maybe they can recommend good asian jeans

>>5053497
There are multiple people laughing at this guy. That anon probably wasn't even involved.

>>5053500
can't wait to finally make it

>>5051064
have you seen their characters? those fuckers are hard to write. If to that you add watching people and drawings (manga is popular in japan,isn't it?) closely even without drawing in mind you get a pretty nice entry point

>>5053502
you're all engaging in a stupid argument about nothing with no possible meaningful conclusion, this entire thread is retarded.

>>5053508
That's why we're taking the piss anon. Nobody who is serious about art cares about asian jeans. It's liquid cope.

A lot of clothes are made in China, so you could have Asian jeans right this moment without knowing!

>>5053195
also japanese ppl tend to not show their talents to the world until they are good, otherwise it's shameful for them

>>5053406
Still doesn't add up.

I'm gonna bank on a wrong interpretation of the translation meaning the person allocates 1 hour of uninterrupted drawing blocks with break inbetween, instead of just drawing 1 hour daily and no more.

Either that or Asian genes which are totally not real despite cases piling up all the time but never outside of asian countries lmao

>>5052449
But black people does raps instead... you see the pattern now?

Why do so many posts automatically answer in the negative?
Why couldn't it be the genes? Wishful thinking?
The brain is as physical as your visible features.

>>5053885
Because most people aren’t delusional schizos

>>5053885
if it were “asian genes”, you’d have asians in western countries btfoing everyone else
the answer is that it’s culture, and immersion in that culture
that’s why you get amazing animu artists in japan and amazing rendermonkeys in china, but hardly any across, because they feed off the local art culture
it’s also why you see western art as meh, generic and average, because that’s what you’ve known all your life
ever been to another continent and been mesmerised by all the strange exotic flora, but when you point it out, the locals are like “nigger, those are weeds”, then you go back and you start noticing how all the “regular, generic trees” that are boring and lame because they’re everywhere were nowhere to be found over there?
it’s like that, and it’s the same reason so many japs despise anime and love western shit

>>5053837
the rhythm of rap is of somebody beating up somebody else?

>>5053894
Non-delusional people just make baseless assertions, got it.
>>5053906
>if it were “asian genes”, you’d have asians in western countries btfoing everyone else
Seems oversimplified, it's not like we have an easy way of rating "best artists born and raised in western countries with no cultural asian influence".
I'm just pointing out that if you've made up your mind on what the definite answer is while knowing nothing about how genetics might affect everything from the way you see things to your motor skills, then you might be biased.

>>5051064
You have to train like the asians do it. They even tell you to trace over there and copy the art you like. Over here we're taught to do things differently and the result is that we have nice art but when we try to emulate anime it looks "off"

>>5053932
again, you have very specific high tier artists in seperate cultures
chinese don’t have shit on japanese stylisation, and japan doesn’t have shit on chinese rendering
this isn’t because the chinese brain is incapable of animu or because the japanese brain is incapable of rendering, it’s because an extreme minority in each country give a shit about the other’s specialty because they grew up on the local culture and want to do that
same goes for the west and anime, anime fans vastly overestimate its popularity
it’s also why french artists are so much closer to anime, because the local art culture is completely different to, say, the american one

>>5052994
I raise you a 尝.

>>5053906
>you’d have asians in western countries btfoing everyone else
But this IS the case. For instance every single good Canadian artist IS Asian. Same for most recent US artists outside of the old guard.

>>5053906
>it’s also why you see western art as meh, generic and average, because that’s what you’ve known all your life
We have known Japanese media for just as long, unless you're over 35 you were exposed to a tonne of Japanese media.
>and it’s the same reason so many japs despise anime and love western shit
citation needed, they are the most insular consumer market in the world, they like shit about japan and that's all.

>>5053906
>if it were “asian genes”, you’d have asians in western countries btfoing everyone else
sorry but this is already happening, A lot of high level concept artists are half asian.

>>5051064
Don’t know, maybe or maybe not, but one thing about Asian cultures in general is sitting down, shutting up, and doing as people say. I’d imagine this works well for learning art from an art instruction book, which seems to be what the guy in your image did.

>the schizo ngmi was right

>>5053979
>half asian
oh, and what’s the other half?

>>5053978
No, you don’t walk down the street and see anime billboards, you don’t get left with anime as a toddler, you don’t get instruction manuals in the form of manga. Go to Japan before you think you’re in any way immersed in popular Japanese culture.

>>5053988
you know, the only reason every art director in the world isn't half or full asian is because they don't leave their home countries. There are random artists we've never heard of working in japan who are better than 95% of who we consider famous rock star concept artists. Koreans are all over the western game and film industry because unlike japan they move around a lot.

>>5051064
What's the big deal? If you can't draw something similar to this by your 100th day of drawing, there's something wrong with you.

>>5053993
I've been to japan, there is nothing remotely analogous to the stuff you see in akihabara anywhere in the west. We also don't see cartoons and comic book shit plastered over buildings. In the west all we have is what we see on TV and now just the internet, its not uncommon for a western kid to grow up playing Japanese games and watching Japanese media in exactly the same proportion to western media.

>246 post about muh asians gene
>because of some generic animu drawing and rendering

>>5053995
>source: dude trust me
why are these half asians beating out full asians, anon?

>>5054009
they aren't they are just the only ones who are culturally fully western, yet you still find them in high level art positions. off the top of my head dice tsusumi, robert kondo, goro fujita all held key positions at pixar and dreamworks respectively. The core character concept artist on overwatch was asian, jen zee at supergiant, jenova chen founding thatgamecompany. It's not to say every good artist is Asian but they appear more often than you would think considering their demographic size.

>>5054003
Yeah, and also the fact that the artist even hid her right arm.

whats so hard to understand? in the US, black people don't take art seriously neither do latinos so that leaves us with white vs asian. work ethic wise asians always win so you see them in large amounts with jobs despite lower number

>>5054055
Or it's because the asians who move to the west tend to be upper-middle class and can afford to have their children chase their shitty art dreams .

East Asian people are insane, their minds work in a different way. I do think they are the most intelligent people in the world. They are excellent in many fields of human prowess. One area they suck at though is emotional intelligence, which memes and feminist bullshit aside, is what makes people... people. Individuals who feel and interact with each other with empathy while being able to think for themselves.
White people have been more creative historically, as in creating entirely different concepts from scratch, but the Japanese especially have grabbed them and improved them in crazy ways. They went from actual middle ages feudalism to a full fledged industrial society in the blink of an eye, once they learned from Europe about advances in knowledge.
Japan is really another world and as much as I can't stand their shallowness, honno and tatemae, selfishness and rigidness, I admire their capabilities in a functional sense, they are like polished machines ready to fuck you up in any field you choose.
tl;dr: genes are very real and Japs have the good ones

>>5054057
Its not genes, its simply tiger parenting moron. Do you think theres an indian gene that lets them excel in spelling bee's ? Literally anyone can breed a EQ machine with tiger parenting, its just seen as immoral in the west

>>5051064
No. Americans bitch about how they wish they had "talent" and never accomplish anything. Asians put the pencil to the paper and actually do it.

>>5054063
Now that you mention it. Despite being on par with China's population, India is absolutely uncapable of producing artists at all, which btfo the MUH SHEER POPULATION argument. So I guess the asian jeans are very real after all.

Im convinced a big chink of this meme comes specifically from the general anime slant of chan culture. When I was in Japan and hung out with artists types, they were always going on about how advanced and developed French artists and art schools are and how Japanese have a hard time keeping up with Europeans artistically.

>>5054093
no, you absolute fucking moron, it means that one of those two countries is an absolute 3rd world shithole without even basic infrastructure like fucking sewers, no shit street shitting despondent poorfags aren’t going to invest years grinding loomis, you retarded fucking nigger

>>5054098
chunk lol whoops

>>5054093
Anon maybe the GDP per capita has something to do with it...

>>5054099
>>5054100
The Philippines and most of the other SEA shitholes are still able to produce good artists. Really makes you think.

>>5054102
Makes me think about the obvious fact that most indians are pressured into either doing STEM programs or getting disowned meanwhile philippinos and other SEA shitholes have the choice of either becoming a lady boy prostitute that sucks off white boomers or some other poorfag career like being an artist

>>5053908
No it is black people expressing their oppression and bitterness from having shitty parents. White people have their own thing too, they do good acting and comedy.

>>5054102
Yeah, but not as many as China, Korea, and Japan. The point isnt that poor countries cant make good artists at all, its that richer countries have more opportunities for development/curation/exhibition.

>>5052240
>used that intelligence to manipulate people because of pre-existing mental and emotional issues
That just sounds like a standard woman also
>IQ of 140 and she was incredibly talented
I doubt she’s all that, but even if she was, I could snap her pathetic neck with one arm

>>5054107
>Pressured into
Sure thing. And Chinese parents never pressure their children into STEM or high paying careers at all, lmao. Your shitty argument doesn't float
>>5054109
And yet India despite being on par with other shitholes is still unable to produce artists despite having shitload more people than all the SEA countries combined.

this is funny guys keep going

>>5054115
>>5054115
Do you really think no one knows how to draw or paint in Inida? That they domt have fine arts academies or their own visual culture? or that the country doesnt have a notably rich and ancient artistic tradition? I really dont know what tour basis is for saying they produce no artists at all.

We see a lot of East Asian artists on here because (1) we are on a chan board that likes anime so there's stylistic overlap, (2) there are no doubt more people culturally and linguistically familiar with Japanese here and in the West at large than like Tamil or whatever, and (3) those countries are more developed so more people can pursue and SHARE art.

I dont know why you keep brining up SE Asia as some sort of counter example to India. Are you running into tons of FIip or Thai artists regularly? Im sure not- at least not enough to think that they make more artists than India does.

>>5054131
isn't Zeen Chin malaysian?

>>5054131
Most flip artist don't really put their place of origin fearing they'd get underpaid for what they work compared to other countries.
there's definitely a lot of well skilled artists in the Philippines if you go around filipino facebook groups.
mind you during the 80s the Philippines had tons of comic book artists that moved to America to work for DC or Marvel so even before the popularity of the internet and ease of information there where already skilled artists before that.
my older brother also knew a bunch of people that he was friends with that went to FZD or works as a mangaka in japan.
in an unrelated note, I do recall some flip posting /ic/ mega.nz links or posting the /ic/ torrent itself on a bunch of facebook art groups.

>>5054131
>Are you running into tons of FIip or Thai artists regularly?
Yes as a matter of fact, but I have never seen any Indian artist at all. Feel free to show me some.

>>5052853
?

all of you are underage retards

t. asian jeans

>>5054098
This. Weebs don't realize that tons of people in Japan love western media and consume it all the time. Western films are still the most popular films in the world. Not surprised JP animators jerk themselves raw to Goeblins grad films just like we do to anime shit.

>>5051461
Stop posting here or we'll delete your twitter account again zoomzam,

>>5052657
>>5051544
second this, what technique do you mean?

>>5054285
It's hard to sustain a boner when all you have to jerk it to is a bunch of grad films. While it's true that France is second only to Japan in producing great art, the gulf between them and the noticeable influence is almost a one way street by quantity alone. I wish it was true that the Japanese widely consumed and studied good western film, their output would be less shit if they did. Also, Hollywood being a global homunculus who gobbles up all western talent and forces them to shit out soulless American megahits it's not something to be proud of.

>>5054435
France's golden era is long gone, Japs have this vision of Paris anchored between the XVI and XIX century for some reason.

The truth is French is not only not the Langue de la Diplomacie anymore, but a minorized language that sounds weak and funny; Delacroix and Fragonard's kind is extinct; sophisticated Parisian society as once depicted by Cortès has become a massive suburb of Senegalese and Algerians, making hit gangsta rap songs which have replaced Satie.

To think that such a beacon of enlightenment has fallen so low is deppressing. Look up Paris Syndrome for the horrors of culture shock in the naïve Japs that travel to modern France.

>>5054526
its probably true but exactly the same is can be said of every first world nation including Japan. In the context of producing good 2d art France has just fallen slower than the entirety of western civilization.

>>5051064
Asians have the power to pay attention and not get infinitely sidetracked by tutorial shortcuts that will only become crutches in the long run, forever crippling your natural progress.

It's a virtue lost to westerners. It's called diligence.

>>5052660
It depends on what the asian parents want out of their kids. I was getting private tuition in playing piano and ended up playing in front of the whole school by the time I was 6. Music's much more common, yeah, and most asian parents legitimately hate art.

It's the asian diet

>>5051064
> there something to it
I wonder...

>>5054808
>most asian parents legitimately hate art.
most american parents do too, just look at the sorry lot on this board... they're not exactly candidates for doctors or astronauts.

>>5055029
>doctors
I could do this, but why? First of all, who would WANT to help other people. Secondly, who the fuck would want to slave away fro a decade to get paid slave money when you factor in the hours, when you can do things the American way and just waltz your way into wealth by being overconfident and pushy till you make it? This country was made on the backs of incompetent people who exploit hardworking sheeple, and that’s just what I intend to do.

>>5055040
> doctors
> First of all, who would WANT to help other people.
All you need to know about mutt's average IQ. This particular example doesn't know what doctorate means.

>>5055026
>imperial japanese flag
>posts korean artist

>>5055040
dangerously based

>>5055048
> 1 Korean Artist
> Ignore the rest
> Fag thinks he is smart

dont you know the fastest way to become popular?
1. post your mediocre art and claim to be a preteen
2. post a shitty doodle you made in 3 minutes beside a painting you spent 10 hours on and claim they were made 2 years apart

>>5055047
Exactly, and I don’t need to. That’s the best part! I can just let simple minded tools with “morals” and values work hard and study, while I sneak around and acquire wealth through dubious methods, then pay the hardworking fools peanuts while I bang their wives!
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>>5055048
the “japanese” imperial dynasty is descendant from koreans, which is why the japanese cucks deny access to the kofun for dna tests
when confronted with overwhelming proof of foreign superiority, the japanese dog reacts always in the same manner: isolation and wilful blindness
they hid from chinese superiority, they hid from american superiority and now they hide from korean superiority, lest they admit they worship koreans not merely as their superiors and rulers, but as gods
they have been robbed of their arms (copied from their superiors), they have been robbed of their economy (such as it was, being fueled by the yen being tied to the dollar and little else, just as they once resorted to stealing chinese coin as they found themselves too inept to mint their own), they have been robbed of their culture and the crux of their national identity (worshipping superior koreans as literal deities descended from heaven to rule over them), and now all they have left is anime and cartoon pornography of prepubescent girls (and boys, which comes as little surprise considering what their “women” look like), and soon someone will come along and take that too, considering all the outsourced animation and destitute lifestyles of japanese animators
I long to see them fall completely before they are nuked (again) below the water level and whales feast on their decomposed children like so many plankton

>>5055073
kek, I've never seen a national inferiority complex quite as strong as Koreans have toward the Japanese.

>>5051064
No. We all share 99% of our dna with each other so factually, no.

>>5055321
So I can say the N word?

>>5053195
>There are probably JP malders out there right now that are convinced that are convinced every westerner is some sort of anatomy-internalizing HD lighting render-god because the only western art they see are high-detail capeshit pencils, MOBA / WoW splash screens, and hyperrealistic game art.
Actually hilarious thought. I think many here just like japanese styles more.

>>5053195
I can't believe so many westfags are posting on Pixiv

>>5055321
We also share 99% of our genes with gorillas.

>>5055367
That's reassuring.

>>5055324
Please ask the rigorous ethics committee.

>>5051536
Excellent observation. Thanks for pointing this out.

>>5051536
Seems legit.

>>5051876
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>>5051705
This is actually an important part to improving in any pursuit, called feedback. If you can get feedback on what you're doing wrong and even how to fix it ideally, you will always improve quicker than those without. But if you're the typical d/ic/khead asshole you will never have friends or mentors anyways lol

>>5051064
Theyre born with a family that pushes them to acquire superior work ethic, something you will never have or understand.