/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

whatever you say, pajeet

Bullllllllllshit.

>>5046495
Will it work with Photoshop? Will it be even remotely affordable? Will it even have enough CPU and RAM to run art programs at a half decent resolution?
Because if not I don't give a shit.

>>5046495
>The new Surface Pen's will have 0 IAF and 0 line wobble. And the displays will have 0 parallax with 120MHz refresh rate.
apple had that in like 2017
the only way they could get me to give a shit is if they did something really fancy with a downscaled version of the surface dial

They're gonna push the same wobbly n-trig pens. If anyone is fighting evenly with Apple and Wacom, it's gonna be Samsung, and thats just by using the same pen tech as Wacom.

>>5046495
i wish trad would get upgrades, painting with semi liquids get boring

>>5046678
>i wish trad would get upgrades
It did, it's called digital.

>>5046675
it’s been a while since I’ve seen an emr tablet pc, but those were still wobbly as fuck around the edges and near any kind of magnet, like the speakers

>>5046507
Okay, but you didn't have desktop apps. CSP sucks on iPad Pro due to little screen and limited performance.

>>5046707
wrong, it suffers next to no performance issues because it’s a single threaded piece of shit anyway
there’s also like 4 desktop apps on ipad

>>5046688
New Samsung ones don't. They're pretty decent.

>>5046724
B.S. It's definitely hindered compared to my desktop when adjusting layers and moving shit around.

>>5046707
You've got that wrong. CSP sucks on ipad because you have to pay a subscription fee forever rather than 25 bucks and done or pirated and done.

>>5046728
>t. ipad air

>>5046495
>Wanting to do anything with Microsoft past Windows 7
No thank you, I do not want the Glow Niggers to know whenever I am drawing Futa and how erect my cock gets and whether or not I bust a nut that night. Fuck off.

>>5046688
Just checked in artflow on my Tab S7+, an HD There's no wobble drawing near the speakers or the rest of the edges.

>>5046707
>Okay, but you didn't have desktop apps.
Both Android and iPad have apps to use them as a pen display with a PC, so this point has little weight. On android I find the difference between SuperDisplay and a Cintiq to be minimal. Can't speak for the iPad, but Duet Pro is supposed to function similarly.

>>5046737
Considering the fact that people are crying about how bad duet is and astropad requires a Mac and someone recently had to buy another real tablet because their ipad apparently didn't cut it, one can conclude that Applefags are stuck without proper screen mirroring forever and that an android is mandatory.

>>5046495
The biggest issue with using the Microsoft surface for drawing is that most art applications on windows are still designed to only be used with a mouse and keyboard. Even if the desktop versions are more "powerful" compared to mobile art apps, their interfaces aren't suited to be handled by touchscreen only.

Here's a random example that shows the difference between art studio pro's mobile ipad interface and desktop macOS interface. You can see how the interface was designed differently for both devices so it would be the most comfortable for the user.

That's why it doesn't matter how much better hardware microsoft makes their surface devices. The software issue will never go away.

>>5046735
Then all tablets are off the table.

>>5046746
lmao nigger, ipad works as a pen display NATIVELY

>>5046765
With a desktop? They sure don't.

>>5046495
As a long time user of surfaces and windows phones, Microsoft will ALWAYS fucks it up somewhere. And later they will release updates that fucks it up even more.

Mark my words.

>>5046961
>windows phones

It's a shame what happened to windows phones

>>5046843
yes, they do. iPad can natively be used as a pen tablet on macOS. you don’t need astropad or any of that other stuff. stop fucking posting if you don’t know what you’re talking about faggot

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210380

Microsoft needs to ditch n trig pen or come up with something better.

>>5047393
Fair enough. That's cool if you happen to use a Mac. I don't, and will admit I didn't look into non PC compatible options. Most folks don't have Macs, but I'll keep on mind that sidecar is an option for those who do.

As someone without a Mac, I sure as shot wasn't gonna get one in addition to an iPad just so I can use desktop apps with the iPad, so having a PC, a Galxaxy Tab seems like the better choice of you wanna use it as a pen display.

>>5047691
Easy canvas for the iPad is a one time $10 like Super Display on Android. Why do all of you selectively read only stupid things in the tablet thread ffs.

>>5046495
I wish, Microsoft is preferable to every big player in the art space but it'll never happen. They don't care about the tiny consumer base that wants to make art, they want the average student who takes notes at university.

>>5047393
An anon already said that that particular feature had way too much latency to be usable. So stick with Android or an actual tablet.

>>5047808
Easy canvas also has terribad reviews for latency so I'd stay away unless someone confirms it works as well as the android tablets. The fact that there are so many people who end up buying a second tablet because the ipad doesn't cut it speaks volumes and an anon warned that sidecar or whatever it's called has too much latency. The last time I touched ipads all of them used super laggy VNC to screen mirror on windows resulting in some seriously shit performance.

Meanwhile, a large number of anons recently got galaxy tabs and were happy but the screen size is not very big. Honestly, you should 100% be looking for perfect screen mirroring. All the interesting applications are on PC and anyone who hates procreate will hate ipads unless you guys have an application that turns it into a cintiq with no lag and after a lot of digging I haven't seen any good ones except subscription software.

>>5047808
You were talking about natively. If you mean with an additional app, I already acknowledged that
>>5046737
>Both Android and iPad have apps to use them as a pen display with a PC.

However, what I've read about Easy Canvas sounds worse than what I know from experience with SuperDisplay, but again, i don't have an iPad, so i haven't tested it personally. If that works well, great.

honestly pretty based. iPad is overpriced and a wacom with a screen is not portable.

>>5046495
i hope it comes well. More real competition is better for us, more competitive prices and high quality.

The Spen of Samsung is already perfect but the problem is the software. I hope that with the arrival of CSP the level will go up little by little. Also we have to take a look on Krita, which will obviously go little by little, but could eventually be a serious alternative in some years.

>>5046495
A fucking gaming computer lags when using something other than alpha brush tips let alone a stupid windows tablet.

Apple for whatever reason has amazing performance with hardware that would be considered shit in any other OS

Cool...let me know if that ever does happen at some point.

>>5047393
Yeah I don't have a Mac, and an intous is cheaper anyway.

>>5050748
ok peasant

>>5050748
I don’t have a mack either, I run a hackintosh setup and everything works perfectly
I’m never touching windows again

>>5050748
>>5050842
Enjoy the shittiest window managent

>>5046507
>apple had that in like 2017
And still have garbage software and ecosystem.

>that post to poster ratio
get a real job, chang