/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5047903
Shut up fag stop chatting up things you know nothing about

followerlet cope

>>5047903
Money matters

God I'm so lonely and horny

Anime is for plebeians.

>>5047919
being a pleb is the patrician choice then

>>5047921
Based and animupilled

>>5047918
>>5047918

Starting art after high school is so overwhelming.
Like I'm supposed to learn the fundies,expanding my mediums and by the top of that I'm supposed to have a healthy lifestyle like wtf.

>Yeah but that shit takes time you should be aware of it

Sure but on the other it's easy To ne discouraged by how fast people around me get better and expand their comfort zone way faster than me besides their lack of fundies like perspective.
The worst part about it is that I like art.But since the end of the inktober I'm going throught a sort of burnout.

>>5047918
I’ll fuck you, anon. Would you fuck me? I know I would. I’d fuck me soooooo good.

>>5047903

>>5047903
About to drop out from university (cultural studies).
Mom yells, dad is angry af. Ah yes, and I'm poorfag.

>>5047984
I thought that my trad skill would just transfer over to digital, boy I was wrong!

>>5047995
>cultural studies
which jobs can you even get with those?

>>5047995
>cultural studies

I JUST WANT A GF

>>5048057
You think you do, but you don't.

>>5048057
You ready to spend $$$ for a gf? Hookers are far, far cheaper than a gf.

>>5047903
I just want to get enough followers so I can do commissions and move from my house, I'm so tired of living under the same roof as my parents. I've been neglecting my mental health and I have to prioritize it. Don't have that much of a relationship with my grandma, but I'm thinking of moving with her and my cousin while I work on commissions and another job so I get enough money and economic stability to rent a place. I just want to get out of here and don't look back. I should've listened to my sister when she asked if I wanted to live with my grandma the first time.

>>5048131
An onahole or sexdoll is better than a hooker.

>>5047903
Why? It opens MUCH more options as an artist

feels fucked up that almost the entirety of the art community is left-leaning, the only subculture that remotely approaches the right is coom art since it's already considered taboo

>>5048241
followers don't care about you

>>5048257
Why do you care?
Personally the second someone goes on a twitter rant about political shit I unfollow them. They're artfags not fucking politicians.

>>5048257
it's not because of the taboo, we just don't care about left vs right shitflinging because 99% of coom artists are either asians or thirdies and free from progressivism plague

>>5048268
difficult environment to make friends in, along with the fact that the consequences of going against the art community's narrow overton window only grow as you gain an audience

>>5048257
Why do you want to play identity politics that badly?
Just try to get along with people and stop being a faggot.
You never talk politics with strangers or friends and even if you disagree, you shouldn't consider others the enemy.
That's just immature.

The art community is so fucking annoying I cannot stand any of these faggots. Always got some shit to complain about. I can’t even follow an artist without being subjected to their need to start drama out of nowhere. Can artists stop thinking their opinions are the shit just because they have like 20,000 autists sucking their dicks.

>>5048430
most artists have a feminine mind

>>5048430
Curate your social media feed to make it so you don't follow drama queens and retards blogging all the time. Working for me.

>>5048439
drop names so i can avoid those people

I'm afraid to be myself

>>5048454
you, for starters.

My paranoid delusions and obsessive compulsions are really fucking up my potential

neuroplasticity is absolutely real. it takes me absurd spans of time to learn shit that a zoomer could snap up instantly, and i can pinpoint the exact moment when a concept eludes me. it's like trying to remember a phone number but after the fourth digit the numbers all just spill out onto the ground into a disorderly pile.

drawing, learning languages, math, playing an instrument, and more, i grind all of these things daily but years of alcoholism, depression, laggardry and just old age have completely nuked my ability to retain or even comprehend certain information. i don't plan on quitting, but at this rate it will be a decade before i'm a professional tier artist.

>>5047903
AAAHHHHH I WANNA FUCK A DRUNK ANIME SO BADDDD BROOOOOOOOOSSSSSSS

>>5048454
Faggots like puppychan

>>5048598
>just old age
let me guess, you're 25 lol

>>5048598
Learning new things is supposed to delay neuropathy depletion

>>5047995
why were you doing a meme degree if you're poor?

>>5048241
95% of your follower base is not going to be giving you anything besides the occasional like or retweet. If you're idea of success is to have a billion followers on social media, then your going to be beholden to only a handful of fickle people that are willing to give you money through commissions.

>>5048640
nope, closer to 35

>>5048643
well i've only been at it for a few months, maybe i'll shake it off eventually but i doubt it. anyway i didn't really post that to complain, my real point was that shit really is just indeed way harder if you follow the trash lifestyle a lot of ngmis here have. this fact haunts me now that i've experienced it first hand in an extreme way once i got serious, and ironically is the reason i draw so much now; once you are faced with the reality of your own broken machinery you stop fucking around and try to fix it. 20 year olds here have no idea what they are in for if they waste their youth like I did. neuroplasticity is

REAL
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>>5048659
Thanks ojiisan for your wisdom. I was afraid of not getting enough sleep but as the old saying goes “you can sleep when you’re dead”. Or in another case, squeezing an extra hour or two before bedtime shouldn’t hurt when you’re younger.

>>5048666
nobody said don't sleep properly. in fact, neglecting health is bad for the brain too obviously. idk, i guess it depends on the person whether they can just ignore sleep and work like a monster without it becoming a detriment or not. just bee urself.

>>5048659
>well i've only been at it for a few months
I'm 28 and I have improved more than I have in the past year than I have in the past 5.
It's only because I feel like I've realized how important art is to me. I feel like I have a drive. That's all you need. You need a drive to push yourself and put in the hours, the thing young kids have more than us is time. Yes it is probably easier for them but they also have little to no responsibilities aside from school, and even then they have months of vacation. They also have a built in dunning kruger and lack an adults ego which creates this "I should be better than this" mindset.
You just have to put in the hours and try.

It's blatantly clear that an Apple iPad Pro 12.9 with the Apple Pencil will very quickly level up my current skill effortlessly just by owning it, since it's the only art device that both actually just works and is completely hassle-free.

>>5048765
Ehh, memes aside, I'm definitely upgrading my ipad to the 12.9 and selling off my Cintiq when I get enough saved. I'd get way more room on my desk and since it's a computer in itself, it'll be free from clutter and I can put it away when not in use.

>>5048774
This is exactly what I did except I used the extra money left over to buy a 20"something Huion screen tablet. I use my ipad the most though and it is incredibly comfy to relax on the couch and draw

Twitter keeps suspending my new account. I wanted to use it to post some booba but I guess it's not going to be easy.

>>5048420
It’s easier to go viral by playing up woke platitudes than to draw

>>5048814
Sadly, you're right.

>>5048454
As if I remembered them
But it's easy, if you spot political shit (no matter the leaning, it's all worthless anyways because it comes from artfags on Twitter) in your feed, just unfollow. I did a purge back with all the spergs writing essays about BLM and now I rarely ever have any of that shit clogging my feed. Call it muh safespace or whatever but I genuinely believe that even reading anything related to politics on the massive echo chamber that is Twitter is a complete waste of time. The only value this website has is that a bunch of artfags post their shit on it, so I believe one's feed should reflect that.

>>5048598
I'm about the same age as you, and I'm better at learning new things now than I ever was in the past. With the sole exception of drawing, picking up new skills and taking on new hobbies seems almost effortless. Learning is itself basically a skill: it can be trained, and you'll get worse at it over time if you don't practice it.

I'm not sure I'll ever be able to achieve any of my drawing-related goals, even though they likely only require /beg/-level skills, but drawing has always been my weak point. It also seems like all the instructional material I can find is more focused on providing exercises rather than explaining concepts and processes, which seems completely backwards to me and doesn't match how I learn at all.

>>5048598
I don't know, I'm 25 and I memorize shit faster than I ever did back when I was cramming for school. Maybe because the subject matter interests me now. Or maybe I turned my brain on after I started reading and trying to learn new languages. /blog

>>5048802
why did you get suspended in the first place?

>>5048872
I tend to completely agree with this.
I just wanted to know if i should be aware of people i shouldn't even look in their direction to not get involved in any drama.
For example; i follow someone without checking their whole profile and then they start shitting up everything with politics, so i unfollow them, but they take notice and put me on a "bad people" list, they tell their friends and drama ensues.
I might be blowing this out of proportions but there are people who do this ever for lesser things.

>>5048907
>but they take notice and put me on a "bad people" list, they tell their friends and drama ensues.
This has happened to me in the past, actually. I think they had some kind of notification thing when someone unfollowed them. I did it once and they immediately messaged me and asked me why, so I was guilted into following again. Then months later I unfollowed and they confronted me again
This person was part of a niche interest I had, but they started telling others I was a bad person and stuff. I mean it's really stupid but even shit online can fuck with you
I checked back and now they're super outspoken with double the followers I have, everyone loves them, and I'm just here, I guess

>>5048915
Yeah, that sucks. That's why i think preventing this type of encounters is better in the long run.
I don't really care about the numbers that much, i just want to surround myself with good people that do good art.

>>5048907
I heard horror stories about it but this has never happened to me, so I don't have a list of troublemakers to give you.
Now I quickly check the profile before giving a follow... Hasn't failed me so far.

>>5048924
Usually, a good route to go, make sure to check the replies, too. I've stopped it by not following any more Western artists on Twitter.
I only follow them on IG, where they usually don't post about any political shit (or if they do you can mute the story). I unfollowed everyone that posted a black square this past Summer, though

>>5048915
>double the followers
Lmfao serves you right.

>>5048934
double of 0 is still 0, this board is full of larpers

>>5048924
Yeah, that's what i started doing too lately.
If i liked their work i usually follow and i did tend to skip other posts.
Luckily it hasn't happened to me either but you can never be too careful nowadays.

>>5048934
Why?

I seemingly have a fear of drawing. I want to become good, I want to make great art. But I sit at my desk with full intent to just draw something all I need at this stage is to start. But I warmup, draw my boxes and circles, and then I'm intimidated. I start drawing, it naturally looks terrible because I don't practice, then walk away. A few days later I get that urge again to draw and the cycle just repeats itself.

Any anons ever experience something similar? I feel like it's the only thing that's keeping me back from really getting started with drawing. Image is def. not my work obviously just thought it's a really cool piece

>>5048958
Instead of doing boxes and circles as a warmup, do something to prepare for whatever piece you're planning on making.
For example if you want to draw a man with a sword, do some gesture, draw some hands gripping poses, draw some swords, test some faces, the things you want to focus on in your drawing.
That's how I get started personally.

>message artist
>he never message back

>>5048915
Seems like you should of been more direct with this person in the first place. Nothing good can come from hanging around people like that in any capacity.

>>5048915
very thin-skinned person, very common in small communities. once a guy messaged me specifically to tell me he was unfollowing me for "boring content". I appreciate that honesty more, these days.

Why is it that now that I go wagie again does my pitiful brain come up with an excellent time management strategy?

I HAVE NO GF I WANT A GF AAAHHH

>>5049151
I'll be your G(B)F, anon. Just don't leave me like my last BF.

>>5047952
Do you have a vagina?

GIB GF
GIB GF
GIB GF

>>5048958
maybe youre scared of feeling the shame of not being able to draw
"not being able to" or "not being good enough"
whatever it is i promise you theres a reason and with that reason a more effective method than simply powering through it. either seek therapy or try it yourself, see if you can do something about it on your own

I feel the urge to start smoking again, and drinking, and using sleeping pills so I would not have to be awake, god I am going to off myself soon.

>>5047995
transfer to stem or perish

>>5049243
I'm either too high to draw or too sober to not wanting to kill myself.

Almost every fucking time I draw, some retard comments on how amazing my art is and then they say how much they want the character I drew to die. And then some other retard starts a massive dramapost about how the character was awful and did everything wrong.

Why does this happen? Why can people just not keep their opinions to themselves? It's not like I'm drawing literal Hitler or anything close to that.

>>5049179
Yes (no).

I’m a weird mix between sadist and masochist, and I kinda wanna find a moderately attractive woman with a bad temper and fight her.

This erotic fantasy would be peak kino, as if I felt angry, I might hurt her badly and get turned on by it, but I might also act more submissive and let her hurt and humiliate me. Either way, I’d get rock fucking hard from it.

>>5047903
does anyone want to invite me to their discord server i am so lonely

What does it feel like to put your penis in a vagina?

>>5049468
its alright

>>5049468
Once I put mine in one all my gains was stolen from me without consent in a blink of an eye.

>>5049468
It feels pretty weird. Like icky almost. Isolated claustrophobia that just doesn't feel right. Men's assholes are where it's at tho

I'm so lonely.

>>5049516
NOO BUT IM LONELY TOO YOU CANT BE LONELY HERE ALSO

How do you deal with being ugly?

i'm so horny if anyone of you become trans i'd fugg you ahhh

How do I bounce back or at least cope with the realization that I have no talent?
It hit my motivation pretty hard, I used to have fun and draw 4 hours a day, but after this I can barely pick up a pencil anymore. Am I just done with art at this point? I don't know if I can make things better.

i don't care about making it, i just want to be a be able to draw decently for fun, consistently, but i never will. i know myself too well to expect it to ever happen because my attention span is shit. even if i'm super into something i always get bored and give up on it. it's happened with such a vast array of different hobbies and interest, not just drawing. i am going to be doomed for all eternity to remain a jack of many trades but a master of none. i'm not even a "jack" of art, i'm only slightly better than the average person who has cursory experience with drawing. the only time in my life i've been able to stick with one thing for the longest time was when i was 13 or 14 and i was obsessed with runscape and played it all day every day for an entire summer break which is 2 and a half months according to google, which is like 3 times longer than hobbies usually last for me before i get bored and move into something new.

also, i stopped biting my nails several months ago and after they grew out and i learned how to clip and file them they've looked great and have been strong but today i was so frustrated at how shit a drawing i tried tonight after work went that i bit one of my nails down as short as it can go and i'm mad that i regressed

>>5047918
I dont remember leaving this comment

>>5049441
if i had the ability to DM you an invite then i would, but i don't want to throw the link out there for anyone to join willy nilly

>>5049689
um ok dm me here: Kukcs#1445

>>5049695
sent

>>5048958
Ive been there. For me, it was the weight of expectations. The pressure to preform to some arbitrary standard that doesn't actually exist. Drawing became a mechanical task, like a married couple having scheduled sex. But I needed my fix because I loved drawing.
My advice is to loosen up. So what if it sucks? No one is going to see it unless you show them. What matters is that you're drawing what you want because you feel like it. Accept that there will always be someone better than you no matter what you do, and that there is no actual finish line. But remember that most people in the world are worse than you, and even your shittiest drawing is going to inspire someone.

>>5049361
Are you drawing fan art? "Fandoms" are a cancer that subsists of loudmouth opinionated retards who turn characters into their entire identities. So any perceived slight is like an attack on their existence. They can't separate fiction and reality. It's mental illness.

>>5049516
I turned 20 two months ago...

>>5049763
I had no friends over for my birthday. My parents didn't even bother asking if I wanted to invite anyone. They sang, we cut a cake, and I think that was the most depressed I'd ever been in my whole life.

>>5049766
you'll get used to it anon

>>5049665
i feel u anon, i've never been consistent with anything i do idk why

>>5049766
>he got a cake
Anon I'm 24, live at home, and I get nothing. My friends don't even remember my birthday anymore. But I'm not playing misery olympics here. Getting old just means taking the initiative to make your own birthday the most decadent hedonistic day of the year you can. Save up a birthday fund, take the day off, order a favorite food you can't normally have, go pet some dogs at the animal shelter, order some expensive drinks. If you have friends, invite them to join even if they don't realize it's your birthday and just make some good memories. Reward yourself for being patient with another year of life on this gay earth

>>5049799
>>5049769
this is really reassuring guys. ty

>>5049530
Make a vtuber avatar

I fucking hate that in some days, I feel like the happiest person while drawing then suddenly I get depressed for no apparent reason, I get reminded about how meaningless life is. and the cycle continues

>>5049839
I used to pray to God that I wouldn't get depressed that day. Now I just kinda expect it.

>>5049839
>>5049841
I really reduced my depressive episodes by taking a good dose of vitamin D3 every single morning. I suggested it to a friend of mine who also has seen improvement after a few months of use. It didn't get rid of the thoughts themselves, but it made living with them more manageable because my focus and energy improved and I directed myself into goals. Worth a try if the depression isn't chronic.

>>5049665
lol same only with minecraft instead of runescape

i chew my nails too

maybe try drawing for fun - forgetting about skill level and just draw a fun idea, anything, and doing the best you can. studying fundamentals within the context of what youre drawing, instead of just grinding fundamentals isolated from actual drawings

>>5049852
i'm not even trying to grind fundamental. i keep telling myself to practice but tonight i was just doing a drawing purely for fun but i stopped half way through the initial sketch because it was looking so bad and weird and i didn't know how to fix it. at my current skill level, the only way i could draw purely for fun, is if i were making ugly drawings that look bad on purpose, but that's such a specific thing to do, it has to be for a joke.

>>5048039
cultural job obviously

>>5049274
>transfer to stem

that's impossible
people go to "study" stupid shit because they are bad at math etc and have low iq

i saw norasuko's sketch on my feed and my first thought was "wow asukafag improving so fast"

i cant get eye placement on anime heads right it just always looks off to me and i cant figure out why. ive redrawn these fucking eyes for hours now. even after studying regular heads and planes and placement i can do those fine but it just fucking doesnt make sense to me when it comes to stylizing

>>5049927
Try copying anime heads instead of real heads for a change. It might help.

>>5049927
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/82152183
anon fucking lurk /asg/

I’m so lonely and horny right now

>>5048039
Professional victim.

>>5049976
Hire a hooker.

I crave kimchi.
I haven't had any kimchi for 3 years.

>>5049361
>drawing random shit instead of characters you know, care and are passionate about
NGMI

>>5049766
>28 soon
>parents always try to make me go out to lunch with them but I started refusing because it just makes me want to fucking die and I have to stop from crying
>don't have anyone else to spend it with
>spend the whole day trying to forget that it's my birthday and I'm a year older
>birthday is worst day of the year
You get kind of sort of used to it I guess.

i have plenty of /ic/ related troubles to vent about, but i know the answers to them

i have interpersonal issues where I dont really give a shit about any of my family, i dont even think about them or contacting them, but i feel guilty or wrong when I think about how little attention im giving them when most of them are on their way out

a grandmother from one side i stayed with briefly when i was like 6 recently contacted me after never speaking to me since, saying she missed me and all of that stuff, and i dont really understand how someone can actually feel that way about a stupid little child, but i feel bad im not reciprocating it, i feel like i have some mental issue where i dont feel the emotions other people do about these things

I need a new tablet but I’m afraid of the new models and their quality. Should I just buy a 22hd like new? I ask here because the tablet thread always breaks out into a flame war over Chinese crap vs Wacom.

>zero passion and dedication

>>5050099
WHY I DON'T TRUST SCREEN TABLETS
Well it really depends.
1) Just because you buy wacom it doesn't mean that it won't die on you. There's plenty of occurrences of cintiqs dying in the archives and in artists I respect. You might have to mail it in to get it fixed and the repair fee might be expensive if it's not under warranty
2) iPad pros have built in planned obsolescence which means you'll eventually be stuck on an one way journey into bloat hell whilst you will not be able to update apps. Procreate is the only major non subscription drawing program and as far as I know there are no good non subscription apps that let it act as a normal cintiq tablet
3) XP Pens seem to be reliable and cheap but an anon had theirs die after 1 year and 7 months (which also isn't normal)
4) Galaxy tabs have a two year warranty iirc for the S6 lite but the screen is relatively small however it can apparently act as a mini cintiq with superdisplay.
5) I've talked to people with huions and they tend to have a lot of issues with the drivers and whatnot
If I had the money, I would go for a galaxy or wait and see. If you are a /beg/ I would recommend going with something that is not a cintiq just to test the waters because you don't want to be that person who buys a super expensive tablet and stops drawing in a few weeks. If you're going to keep drawing, maybe you might want to go for something more expensive.

>>5050099
not the chink freak out dude, but the huion pw507 pens suck, avoid anything using them. (kamvas pro 20 (2019) personally)

im not unhappy with the screen or ergonomics itself, just dont expect to use it as a good secondary monitor for games and shit

can also confirm some of them have driver issues, but not the screen tab. the issues i had with setup on screen tab were all windows based bullshit fighting with it that you just need to explore and find out.

>>5050127
>>5050141

Ugh so annoying this is. I mull over if I should go back to using an intuos but I’m reading that the newer ones have a sandpaper that files down the nib too quickly. Not a total issue but minor inconvenience. But I don’t think I ever got used to the disconnect of looking at a screen.

I’ll think it over. Thanks.

>>5050097
Start small. Send a Merry Christmas text/card (you don't have to fill it out from top to bottom or anything) to them and hope they're staying safe and healthy and wish them a good New Year.

>>5048598
>Years of inaction has completely fried my ability to focus. To the point where i can't even compete with highschoolers anymore.

>>5048598
>>5050156
My head starts physically hurting and I get the sensation of spinning when I try to read the first lesson in drawing books.

>>5048915
i can’t imagine confronting a random over unfollowing me lol. i’m mentally ill but that’s some autism i can’t even fathom

>>5048039
gf has a 6-year masters degree in humanities. she works as a cashier now.
meanwhile i literally dropped out of highschool and make about 3 times as much as she does doing absolute bare-minimum effort webshit

don't waste your time on a university degree if you aren't gonna get a doctorate and teach, or unless it's STEM.

>>5048598
>alcoholism
lmao that aint neuroplasticity's fault you just gave yourself brain damage from drinking

I must be seeing things

>>5048880
No idea, just made a new account and got the banhammer immediately. Wrote to support but no replies. I'll just make another one later I guess and see how it goes (a shame though since I really liked the handle I came up with and now I can't even free it because "your account is suspended and can't perform this action").

aaaaaaaaaah I hate being female, I dont like men, I look like a child and I cant even have a normal discussion with people so I always have to avoid telling my gender. can someone please just Isekai me.

>>5050357
wtf please be my art girlfriend

>>5050357
>female
>I look like a child
pls have sex with me

>>5049274
>>5050307
>stem meme
I have an electrical engineering degree and work at a warehouse, don't believe the hype.

>>5050390
I studied medicine. Now I have depression.

>>5050357
post booba so I can fap

>>5048958
I think everyone has that fear (or at least I have). A piece of paper is intimaditing, it's basically a test and everytime you draw something, you challange that test. You have to accept your fear and tho it looks shit, keep drawing

>>5048039
quite a few, if you can make connections

>>5048578
good, you should be

>>5050357
based femcel, hope things turn out well

>>5048666
> “you can sleep when you’re dead”
you will make it, but in the other world satan!

>>5050394
probably corona too

>>5050443
They wont, I get attention but not from the gender that I want to get, I swear god played a prank of me by making me like the same gender.

>>5050321
maybe you are blind and schizophrenic

>>5050477
More like you got groomed by the hollyjews

>>5050496
I dont know, I honestly dont, I dont like gays, I am a closet lesbian and I just have no attraction to men, worst thing is other lesbians look disgusting and they are all brainwashed by western lgbtqbbq. The worst pain is loving a girl and seeing her get a boyfriend, but you know she is straight aaaaaah I hate my life so much, I dont even look ugly, creeps always try to get into my pants because I look really young, you dont know how scary it is to walk at night and see some fat big nosed oily greasy stinky creep follow you. Or some autistic fatso who follows you around in the store and takes photos under my skirt.

>new canvas
>look at ref
>realize i don't understand what im lookling at
>alt+f4

>>5050357
Hehe fair maiden, please bless us by sending pictures of your feet?

>>5050521
you will never be a woman.

>>5050483

maybe I am

huh

>>5050556
youre supposed to finish your darlings before killing them

>>5050357
>I hate being female
Don't do this, that's how ftm transes are born.

I want a bf so bad

>>5050578
I wish I wasnt, fuck you for being a guy, lets switch bodies then we will both like the right gender lol.

>>5050521
>you dont know how scary it is to walk at night and see some fat big nosed oily greasy stinky creep follow you. Or some autistic fatso who follows you around in the store and takes photos under my skirt.
Nice bait. Almost had me up until there

okay I'm going to confess

I .......


I already.....


I ALREADY KNOW OKAY????

>>5050596
like i said i got one line in and gave up

bros...i’m about to take care of my brother with cancer once he gets discharged from the hospital this week. we’re having to move in with my partner’s mom before christmas because our landlord is selling the house we’re renting. our mom passed away last year and things were just starting to feel normal again. bros... so much is happening. i’m so scared for my little bro. i know he’s strong and will make it. i have to be strong for him. i have my day job, and then after work all this week i’m getting everything moved and set up...i’m so tired...

>>5050638
He is infintely grateful for your help. You are doing the right thing, even if it isn't easy. If bosses give you shit, tell them your real situation. (unless it's gas station, they don't care). At least know that there is the anon from this post, at 12:28pm americlap time, and perhaps several lerkers, who know of your good deed. Godspeed to you and your brother.

>>5050658
my boss has been really understanding and helpful actually. i’m glad i have the job that i do right now, otherwise we wouldn’t make it. my partner’s family is helping out a bunch also. thank you kind anon for hearing me vent

I've never been on a platform more cruel and confusing than reddit. Often times people will downvote me before my posts can take off and it's the only place people will actually insult my art. Yet bewilderingly, 'endearing' beginners and traces make it to the front pages every day. There's also a huge problem with art reposters who just farm karma by posting other people's art all day, it discourages and suppresses original content. Attaching image for reference, I'm not good but I'm definitely not offensively bad.

>>5050097
I'm the same way with family and used to feel guilty about it as well. I found that doing small gestures like the other anon said helped because it A) showed the family member that even though I am not the kind of person with strong family ties I give a shit about them, and B) slowly made me actually develop more of a genuine connection with those people.

A little bit "fake it until you make it", but it helped me I think and I know my extended family has appreciated those small things. It doesn't really take much.

>>5050689
You're in that awkward middle spot where you're not good enough to be praised but not bad enough to be pitied. I know us artists literally FEED AND LIVE on validation and attention, but do your best to just keep focusing on the art and your improvement. You're well on your way.

>>5050689
you need to spend more time learning anatomy, gesture and proportion before spending so much time rendering. no matter how much you render it wont cover the fundamental issues; you cant polish a turd

>>5050725
ic/ treats learning art like a very rigid thing, only one step at a time, but this will only slow your progress and discovery as well as give you burnout. Even beginners should spend some time trying to really polish a piece every now and then.

>>5047903
>pussy thread
>170 posts in a day
Bitch ass nigga.

>>5050602
be careful of what you wish for, you think incels are just joking about the bottom 80% of males living on hard mode? now instead of worrying about meme shit like maybe somebody will risk throwing away their own life and randomly rape your hole or you won't be as rich of a CEO as a male CEO would be, you must uphold your station's male honor (or lack thereof) in every single interaction of daily life in very subtle ways according to some draconian pecking order, there is a real risk you could end up in prison for dumb shit and if you do it will be medieval tier, now nobody cares if you end up homeless or broke because there are no resources specifically allocated for people who have dicks, fist fights are an ever present possibility, etc. etc. etc.

the only reason i don't want to be a woman is because i'm already settled into who i am but if i had to pick my sex before birth i'd pick the one that statistically does not suffer from prison, poverty, violence, divorce courts, lesser opportunities and government programs, and so on. women having it hard is a holdover meme from when flappers couldn't vote in the 1910s and feminists never got the message or chose to ignore that women suffering domestic abuse pales in comparison to violence visited upon males regularly.

/MRA hours

>>5049530
enlighten yourself
become a /fit/izen

>>5050747
1960's
Women's rights are more recent than you think
That's why yo mama's fucked

>>5050814
1920s women got the right to vote.
60s were when the civil rights act happen and blacks were legally seen as legit citizens.
In burgerland.
Get your fucking facts straight.

>>5050814
>Women's rights are more recent than you think

I literally just mentioned flappers who were involved in womens' lib in the early 20th century dummy. But even before that, womens' suffrage was already a big deal in the late 19th century and closely associated with the temperance movement, and suffragettes played a bit part in getting alcohol banned in the united states during prohibition. Read a dang book.

Also I am partial to some feminists ideas myself, I was just making the point that women talk a lot of shit for people who couldn't cut it if they woke male tomorrow. My mother is a queen and you need to dilate.

>>5050740
if its now and then its completely fine, but spending so much time rendering every piece as a beginner is pointless if you dont understand fundamentals. it also avoids developping bad habits that will be hard to break later on

>thread derailed by idpol

>>5050689
The subs you post in are likely only comprised of weeaboos and those guys hate seeing anything that isn't in a generic anime style or sakimichan style big booba

>>5050852
>3 posts
>derailed

it's just a whining thread anyway who cares. i am going to go draw everyone ITT sucking my balls right now.

>>5050357
I don't see the problem

>>5050824
>Get your fucking facts straight
Right back at ya

>>5050828
That's a lot of words just to say nothing

>>5050689
sounds like you have a horrible addiction to social media anon, you know the reason why faggots repost popular artwork instead of there own

>>5050872
>no u
civ rights movent 54-68
women's votes were seen as equal in 1919
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women%27s_suffrage

Stupid phoneposter

>>5047903
I'm thinking about starting subscribestar only to finance my trip around the country on a bike in summer. Never needed money before.

>>5050927
Alright well if women didn't have civil rights they might as well have not have had the right to vote bc their husbands would beat the shit out of them before going to vote kek

Will posting art with accompanying moontext scientifically improve exposure?
Will pretending to be a nip make you popular?

>>5049372
No one woman wants to be beat up, or beat any one up, coomer. Your brain needs repairing and restarting.

>>5051025
Your amerime style will give you away

>>5051025
Pretending to be a nip wont increase exposure. Just do little things like tweet a picture you spent a week on with the only text being 'rkgk'. That's the JP way.

I just had sex for the first time yesterday, it wasn't what I imagined, am I doomed to 2d waifus until anime robots becomes a thing or should I keep at it until it clicks?

>>5051213
better get tyrone to satisfy her

I think I'm burned out.

>>5050966
What do laws have to do with how people among themselves behave?
Are you even a real person? Someone should beat the retard out of you holy shit

>>5051213

>>5050346
I can't fucking believe it. I checked on a hunch and turns out my regular, completely SFW account with like 3 pictures a year is shadowb& too. FUCK TWITTER

>>5051317
you didn't follow Ellen Degenerates or any ""checkmark"" users, anon.

>>5050477
>WAAAA I'M LESBIAN AND I GET ATTENTION
Who fucking cares, cry me a river you fucking dirty dyke.

>>5051323
Could be. I'm fucking done with that shithole. I can just bookmark all the artists I follow and check manually.

>>5051317
Clear cookies, reset your router (static IP = fucked) and make a new account on a different email retard
>>5051334
Kill yourself and drink bleach.

>>5051342
Make me rug muncher.

>>5051317
*restart your router

>>5050927
Don't forget the women's right movement took off because a rich house wife was upset that a nigger that served in the army and put his life on the line was able to vote before her.

>>5051343
Have molten glass poured over you and get physically encased in it and then get cut into sashimi

Reading Houseki no Kuni again made me realise just how bad of a writer I am.
Just holy shit, I feel like a peon.

>>5051342
>>5051349
Thanks for the advice but I'll just seethe instead.

>>5051353
Uh, so it's women who created racism.
Interesting.

>>5051389
bans on twitter seem to be IP tied and new accounts seem to have clear limits for things they can do (like adding people to lists) or you'll get suspended again.

>>5051399
no thats bullshit too because I made accounts on my home IP and 2 VPNS including an IP at my office and every account got banned somehow

Im thinking google is working with twitter because if youre logged into google you're tracked everywhere

>>5051402
or some other hidden technique we dont know about yet. I'm surprised nobody is talking about this because it has to be a common thing

Large percentage of Western women will have at least one mental illness and it will drain you of your time, energy and motivation and quite possibly your money. Now it takes me 3 weeks to finish a piece where in the past it would take 1 week at most. But at least you'll fuck some pussy lel.

>>5051409
Start talking about it and see how far you can get.

>>5051240
Did you just seriously ask me how do laws change people's behavior?
And are YOU? We're all just pixels in a screen.

>>5051213
what did you imagine?

>>5051453
Passionate sex

>>5051470
who did you sex with

>>5051478
Not important

>>5048578
shion.....

I want to start working on my comic already, but I don't even know where to start...

>>5051428
Why is ever nigger on this fucking board so fucking illiterate?
pyw and fucking kill yourself holy shit

>>5051398
Nice way of interpreting that anon.

>>5051631
Do you even have your characters fleshed out?

>>5051631
Read Robert McKee's book "Story"

>>5051642
Aht aht you mad cause yo mamas fucked

>>5051631
just start doing it, you will learn so much by just doing it. try and do a smaller project first and ideally not the 'magnum opus' that everyone wants to do first because you will make mistakes, and no one will care about your first couple of outputs anyway. have fun!

>>5051671
if you think about it, women are the roots of all problems.

>>5051709
Nah, its just white women. Other groups of women usually stay in their lane, but white women need to subvert literally everything to their standards, then scurry away when the community falls apart.

>>5051693
I've read around half of it and I feel like it has some valuable insight, but at the same time his insistence on chasing perfection is the kind of thing that makes it feel really difficult to actually get started

>>5051698
>just start doing it
I want to, I'm just not sure what the first step is supposed to be. I'm not sure how much I'm supposed to have figured out before I actually start drawing and how much I can put off figuring out until later, or even what exactly I want to accomplish

>>5051709
Who’s second from right?

>>5051631

Yo, Im getting into comics too and I decided to work on my writing. Im watching this series on Youtube that breaks down a lot of popular screenwriting literature into digestible chunks.
Its helping me, maybe itll help you.
https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerMowery
Watch the "Fundamentals of Screenwriting" course.

>>5049864
>the shame of drawing something not up to your standard

iktf my nigger. if you dont know how to fix it then my advice would be to seek criticism - anywhere you can find it. here, reddit, someone you know, anywhere you can. if you cant find it in your own work, someone else will have to guide you. if there's literally NOONE, then draw a study and just compare it to your reference

as for the shame... see if you can separate yourself as a human being from the quality of your work. try to isolate that shame you feel as like a tangible feeling, like an object almost, and see if you can kind of work with it in your imagination. easier said than done but... try if you can. it may help

>>5050689
>I'm not good but I'm definitely not offensively bad.
At the risk of sounding like a crab, no. Your linework and rendering is good but your anatomy is awful, she isn't cute at all. It's much more important to have the girl be cute/sexy than it is to have solid fundamentals. Learn to draw some actually cute eyes with big anime eyelashes and don't have her hips be so slim compared to her shoulders unless it's a trap.
>reeee
Just giving my honest opinion as a coomlord, I'd downvote this shit too if I were a filthy redditor.

>>5051222
Anything can be an excuse to draw more if you're brave enough.

>>5049502
Based

bunmp

>>5051750
You might want to start with making a few short stories then. Start with 10 page stories, then 45 pages, then 100 pages. With comics, you're in for the long haul. Aim for skills, not for expressing the one idea you have right now. The more you write, the more ideas you'll have, and the more you'll want to draw and write.

>>5047934
>healthy lifestyle
That’s your problem. Your passion should be art. If you don’t have that drive, you won’t survive.

Drawing faces naturally feels impossible to me and it’s frustrating

>>5052168
You're symbol drawing here. Learn realistic and structural faces first before you stylize.

>>5052182
Wouldn't going back to stylizing just be going back to symbol drawing?

>>5052194
no, you cant learn how to drift without learning how to steer

>>5052255
Can you show me an example of a face that isnt symbol drawn but also doesnt use shading? I only want to focus on lines

>>5052267
people who do that are still thinking of the planes of the face when they draw even if they don't define them with shadow, if you do the same without understanding it, youre still symbol drawing

>>5052274
I just wanted to see a good example bro. I guess I'll try drawing more realistic faces tomorrow but I just really dont like studying real faces and putting in the time to get them to look good. I'll do it anyway because I feel like im out of options

>>5049766
>>5050091
>Every Birthday my mom reminds me how I've gotten one year older, yet I've got no directions or goals, that I'm completely lost in life.
>Me trying to turn it into a joke as to avoid breaking down in front of her
>Hahaha, you're right mom, wow, can you believe how sad this is!
>She get's further angry/annoyed at me, because she thinks me joking, is me not taking things serious but laughing is the only thing I can do, since I don't want to cry in front of her, since I know she can't help me and I don't want to disappoint her further.
Art is the only thing making me feel alive, but yeah you get used to be a living disappointment.

>>5052277
theres definitely a lot of rules broken from real to anime, but theres still a general face shape thats adhered to thats based off reality. things that always come to mind is how eyes are sunken into the skill, eyebrow ridge, nose bridge, and cheeks

if you can draw a realistic face somewhat accurately, it helps you learn where to place these features to create the proper result in anime

>follow a japanese artist

>>5052279
No wonder the joker movie was so relatable

You said you would commit to it and left me in the beginning. You have no face motherfuckers, I hope you never progress past the BEG stage.

>>5052509
What happened anon?

>>5049603
I feel u man. Just keep trucking

how do I get more likes on twitter again

>>5052568
draw big boobs or butts of popular characters

>>5052568
Wait for someone popular already to retweet you stuff.

>>5052575
tried that, fails miserably
in fact that what got me shadowbanned in the first place I think, and ever since then I barely reach <100 likes per post

>>5052581
well were they good drawings?

>>5052590
A side of me would like to think so, but honestly it felt pretty mediocre, can't really judge

Speaking of autistic lesbians!

Anybody else always end up being the token straight friend of lesbian artists? Why does this happen? I must have the personality of a golden retriever or something.

>>5052595
i dont have friends sorry

>>5052576
Tried that with a fanart of a game that I know the dev like to RT pretty much every fanart the game gets, didnt work. Felt like shit, since I put more effort into it more than usual

>>5052595
That just means you are friends with women artists. I think I've never seen straight female artists, they all at the very least "questioning".

>Takes me fucking ages to finish anything
>Have a hard time getting time to draw these last months as workload keeps ramping up
>This whole year I barely had any progress despite drawing and practicing as much as I could
>In many regards I regressed
>I still struggle with everything
Feels fucking miserable, I have come to realize talent was fucking real all along and I have none of it. Seems like God is playing a cruel joke with me by giving me a deep love for art yet making me terrible at it on a deep level which is apparently outside of my control.

>>5052489
I never follow japs with more than 1 : 10 media / overall posts ratio and if they have food and gacha screenshots in their media tab. If I can, I follow them on pixiv, if no - I can only pray someone who I follow will retweet their art

I have 5k subs on twitter, im slowly building an audience, but i draw SOME straight shota stuff, recently all my SS content got nuked from twitter. Im afraid my account will be banned/suspended one day. How the fuck do some Japanese twitter artist get away with posting hardcore loli and Shota shit? some sniveling faggot must have manually reported all my shit

technology is pissing me off this week
cant anything work like it should

>>5052643
Pyw

>post new drawing
>lose 2 followers

Fuck I should have just stayed on unemployment. This trainer is retarded. Shouldn’t have gotten suckered into the work from home gimmick.

>>5052168
>>5052267
i think faces 4, 5, and 9 look good to me. the only glaring issue i see is probably their mouths, theyre just a bit off and seem to not actually follow the contour of the face. in the case of 10, despite wanting to just focus on the lines, your reference picture inherently doesnt rely on lines. its a painting, and every detail relies on contrast between different colors and tones, you cant just "focus on the lines" because there arent any there. you'd instead have to redraw it with a bit of a different approach to certain details. i tried my best myself, i skimped out on doing the mouth cuz i myself couldnt get it right

>>5052131
>being a healthy well balanced person is bad cuz u learn how to make hentai slower than the greasy weak autists around you
Lmfao okay

Have voice changers improved over the years? I wanna be a vtuber. Are male vtubers a thing?

>>5053359
Also nothing wrong with my default voice, just curious.

>>5047903
Why are twitter artist such insufferable pieces of shit?

>>5053464
It’s you not them.

>>5048598
I'm a zoomer and i had the same problem as you,i don't know how old are you but make sure to check your vitamins,how much quantity of food you're eating and sleep. I was like you until recently. My memory,attention span,etc got better as i started changing all this

>>5052753
Why?

The fingers in my lefthand are burning so hard. Just from the keyboard shortcuts when drawing. What do I do? It's not like i can lighten my grip or draw from my shoulder more, its my left hand hitting the shortcuts thats hurting. Should I get a special keypad or something?

>>5053359
If you have to ask you're going to fail. vtubers succeed because they're real-live voice actresses and personalities, not men pretending. You know absolutely nothing about what you're getting into and trying to follow some trend instead of doing it because you're passionate is always a recipe for mediocrity.

>>5053635
you’re right, never mind then.

>>5047995

hey bub, go to a trade school, you'll have better wages, more value as a worker in the future, and a better quality of life (though work will be hard, it will be satisfying and real).

>>5053574
hit the iron femboy

It's okay to give up.

>>5053665
>>5047995
this, go learn a trade and support your family for christ's sake. studying to be an intellectual is for the upper classes who don't need to worry about money.

>>5053574
stop drinking s o ylent green.

>Bought new computer
>Have to recrack Photoshop
It's such a tedious fucking process. I'd pay $1000 to buy this shit and not have to deal with a subscription model, but until then, I would rather suffer.

Why am I so talented?

>>5052936
probably bots?

>>5052986
Thanks but I figured the reference image was still representable with only lines because I didn’t want to get into more rendering, I’d really like to capture that look with line art alone. I know it can be done but I never find the right artists to study for that look

>>5054159
i literally just tried for you, i didnt render anything

>>5054161
I know you tried but I need more

>>5052936
>>5054136
happens to me on twitter all the time. Im following maybe 50 people on twitter. ive never unfollowed anyone, only time I ever unfollowed someone is because they were a booty model and they kept retweeting their ugly friends. But i tend to gain more followers than I lose after everything is said and done.

>>5051410
Call a hooker instead of wasting your girlfriend's time

>>5048946
>>5050273
Leftists need full compliance and obedience or you’re canceled

>>5054133

At giving head? You were raised that way.

im so goddamn tired of trying to redraw the same retarded fucking pose 300 times because something doesnt look right

what should take an hour ends up taking like 5-6 and it makes me want to completely stop for the day, but i cant because its a commission

>>5054572
Yeah, by your ass goober!

>>5052595
judging by the type of people who post on /ic/ I'll say that your probably a smut commission or fandom artist. Those circles are always choke full of different flavors of weirdos.

>>5053574
Your hitting shortcuts on a keyboard, not performing consistent one frame link or walking 360 motions on fucking ultra street fighter 4. You should probably work your grip strength and just muscles in general.

>felt confident enough to post my art for the first time today
>someone called it terrible
I used to laugh at people who got mad at this but it hurts.

>>5050357
Did somebody say "isekai"?

>>5052936
>see new art in my timeline
>it's from artist that I no longer like and by posting he reminded me of his existence
>unfollow him

i'm almost at 10k followers on twitter, and there's so many better artists who don't even have 1k, what is going on

>>5054941

Quality < Quantity

I think I have a new fetish.

>>5054941
this>>5054953
As long as you post everyday, strangely, people are willing to follow.
Or it might be bots

>>5055296
i post once every week, drawing a certain oc i have always works 10 times better that random sketch and drawings i do, this is what made my success

I hate social media. Whenever someone talks shit about my art I get bummed out for like a day or two afterwards. I want to just quit drawing porn and focus on sfw but I enjoy drawing porn too. I just want to have fun drawing and not have everyone take everything so fucking seriously.

Also yes, the obvious solution is to just draw porn for myself and not post it, but I'm a disgusting creature that craves validation and attention constantly.

>>5055396
There's nothing wrong with craving validation, don't let stoic larpers tell you otherwise

>>5055505
You’re not a man if you crave social credit points.

I made it a point to sketch completely traditionally and only use digital to finish stuff but now I'm starting to wish I had a big screen tablet. Drawing more than two characters on a sheet of printer paper is not easy. I mean I'm sure it is for Kim Jung Gi but I'm making a big fight scene so I have to draw 2 characters on one piece of paper then get a new one for the others. They all have to be cropped out and placed around each other.
If I had a screen tablet, I'd probably be able to draw almost as well on paper and I'd have that infinite canvas.
But then again thats the only thing I'd really use it for. I still prefer the feel of pencil on paper. It'd be nice to draw in the dark all the time without a lamp in my eyes though.

>>5055508
Not the same thing. Validation is a few kind words that show that someone paid genuine attention to your art, social credit points are numbers with no endpoint. It's okay to want the former, so long as you don't confuse the two and end up miserable.

>>5055611
I don’t disagree with you. Well done.

>>5047903
>customer scams me on fiverr.
>fiverr refunds me

based jews

okay here goes.

I'm a fucking weeaboo. I accepted that a long time ago. Sitting here admiring this jap artist on ig. and chinks and gooks who mimick japs just like i do, but its socially ok for them to do it because theyre the same race.

koreans draw samurai and geishas because their history is not cool or interesting.

so im sitting here thinking about all these cool costumes and styles of the semi anime-ish face, kind of feminine, but stylized, modernized traditional highly aesthetic japanese shit.

and it made me realize i should work on my own heritage. My family came from Sicily and I have visited over there but I never learned the culture.

I never wore the traditional clothes, or listened to or played or danced to the music. My knowledge of Sicilian history and mythology is really limited.

So now I'm doing a deep dive, and my goal is to identify a Sicilian style or drawing, and to draw people in recognizably sicilian clothes, poses etc. riding donkeys, playing an accordion, fighting a cyclops or whatever.

where can i start my search for sicilian art and artists?

Hey Kien/keian??however you spell your name, you'll probably never read this or see this but I didn't mean to unfollow you like that. I noticed your account is no longer there so I don't know if I did anything in someway to make you feel bad. It has nothing to do with that.

Anyway see you around.

>>5056018
Good for you dude, all I got is basic shit cause I don't know anything, but I hope it's some use.

Sicilian horse carts are pretty cool. The paintings themselves might be limiting as reference material, but the overall image is striking, and the way the history/mythology they represent is neat. Same principles for Sicilian heraldry and puppetry.
https://world.dolcegabbana.com/discover/the-history-of-the-sicilian-horse-drawn-cart/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_dei_Pupi
https://artsandculture.google.com/exhibit/sicilian-puppets/gQH-MBR8

In terms of artists, I can't really give anything that doesn't turn up on google even faster than the above. I like Antonello da Messina (SOUL), but he might not give a broad view of Sicilian culture. Caravaggio is pretty great too, I love the contrast in his stuff, also reading about how controversial his religious paintings were is entertaining.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/italy/articles/caravaggio-italy-where-to-see-his-art-life-sights/

And check out some of Giuseppe Pitré's collected folklore.

I know this doesn't offer much about traditional dress or entertainment, but what can I say, I love folklore. Every culture has it, there's always something entertaining, and it's great for inspiration.

Good luck, and don't forget to pyw here whenever you're ready. Would make a nice breath of fresh air.

>>5056018
>giving that much of a shit about your ancestry
Who cares? Be your own person and do what you want to do. Stuff like this is fine but it's a pretty NPC move to think that it defines you in some way.

>>5056321
sounds like your an NPC devoid of culture with that attitude, absolutely nothing wrong trying to get to learn there own ethnicity and culture

If you hate your self. reduce greed, don't rush, be thankful even if you're pile of shit just be positive no reason and sleep well.. maybe problems will be fix who knows... just believe it take a Bluepill, Red pill and Black pill makes nothing

IDK who the fuck you are. but some of stuff never go as you intended
READ FUCKING THIS EVERYTIME IF YOU SUFFERING with Obseesive thoughts and depress for
NEXT 20 YEARS

>>5056669
<3 u anon.

>>5056669
Based esl anon

>>5052194
Stylization is making educated decisions on how you simplify a form into lines.
Symbol drawing is not understanding form and trying to represent it with lines or common symbols that you have in your head.

You need to learn to draw what you see, then you will ascend from symbol drawing brain to chad stylistic decisions brain.

The choice is yours what you do from here. Remain where you are, or ascend to stylistic godliness?