/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>studying anime

>>5041046
>>5041126
I'll keep that in mind, thanks.

>>5041490
we know that you don't study

>>5040849
Update.
Feel free to comment whatever passes through your mind.

>>5042075
can i see the pussy?

>>5042075
would you be able to replicate it on paper? Im new so im curious

>>5042107

>>5041483
My translation:
"mastering of lineart design practice method compilation"

>>5042121

>>5042124

>>5042102
Depends of how much you're willing to pay for that.

>>5042107
I've been a traditional artist for longer than a digital one, so yes I could do draw Miku on paper as well and probably a bit better, but... what do you mean by "replicate" exactly?
If you tell me what made you ask this I might be able to deliver a better answer.

>>5042121
"A compilation of the ways you can study line drawing."

1) "Copying (you can do so digitally too).
Copy art books/stuff you like 1:1."
"Then, keep using the materials as references."

"This is the most basic thing there is and this is what everyone does, so you'll have a hard time demarking yourself from others."

2) "Copying (you can do so digitally too).
Copy art books/stuff you like 1:1."
"Then, draw from imagination using the knowledge you memorized."

"It's the most painful method but also the most rewarding. This is recommended to those who have the discipline and drive to push harder for bigger gains. It is however draining. If you succeed you'll probably get good though."

>>5042145
>I've been a traditional artist for longer than a digital one, so yes I could do draw Miku on paper as well and probably a bit better, but... what do you mean by "replicate" exactly? If you tell me what made you ask this I might be able to deliver a better answer.
its just the can you draw on traditionally too type of question, being a retard convincing myself to buy a tablet to be able to practice/copy anime

>>5042159
just buy a tablet and make life easier for yourself if youre drawing anime desu
unless you want to spend more money on copics or watercolours, those are also options

>>5042128
For the sake of completeness (I won't go into details and keep it on point) :

3B) "Find character sheets online (from anime studios or pose books, etc) and study these extensively (say 2 a day)."

"It's hard to do but you can't really get to a pro level without going through that."

4C) "Practicing full pieces, posing multiple characters, with proper perspective, etc."

"There's a lot to think about, so it's mentally taxing to do (in both a good and bad way). For beginners, it's best to go back to 3B first."

5D) "Copy stuff from TV stuff/movies etc, all of it including characters and backgrounds."

"A lot of people like to do this. Try to pick stuff you like when doing so. Just select & copy scenes you like. It will make you practice multiple things at once."

>>5042159
What kind of artist would you like to be? If your aim is digital then I would recommend getting a tablet if money isn't a problem.
My reasonning is that, that way, you'll get to practice in the medium you actually want to draw in and familiarize yourself with the tools/apps.

The main reason people recommend to start with pencils and paper is due to cost (since a lot of people give up after they realize drawing is hard).

>>5042166
>>5042185
planned to go digitally since I Fomo'ed and bought clip studio paint for pc but don't know what tablet to buy exactly

>>5042223
get a screenless huion or xppen, ideally medium if you can afford. i hear huoin is generally slightly cheaper and xppen has more solid drivers from my other art friends.

don't get wacom, the modern drivers are shit (i'm literally running drivers from 2016 or 2017 because trying to update to 2018 or 19 resulted in drivers that would die all the fucking time), and there's no reason to, especially now that other brands have pens you don't need to recharge and better shit for a better price.

>>5042145
>copy 1:1

In the trash it goes.

Hello lads, give me something to redline.

>>5042223
I'd recommend the XP-Pen Deco tablets (or whatever is the most value for money). A friend of mine has one and it's solid. The pen doesn't need to be charged either.
A long time ago I had bought a Huoin one and the pen wouldn't charge anymore, was quite a hassle.

There's a tablet general if you want more opnions.

>>5042246
It doesn't quite say 1:1 actually. It just says to copy as in heavily reference the thing that's all.

>>5042145
by copying you mean tracing over other drawings or just by looking at them and trying to replicate?

>>5042292
copy using construction, don't trace

>>5042292
not anon youre responding to. tracing can be a valuable way to learn, but it's generally more worth your time to copy while understanding why things go where they are.

>>5042248
Cute OC friend.

>>5042292
This is how I copy.

>>5042307
Something like this, but without getting all the perspectives wrong.

>>5042364
i can feel
oooooGHGHGA im feeling

Something feels off about this. Does the waist seem a bit too thick?

>>5042490
I'ld be hard pressed to find a single sane proportion in that drawing.

>>5042512
i love this place
kek

>>5042512
This but >>5042307

the ngmi club looking good

>>5042512
Please give some pointers. I've got serious /beg/ tunnel vision here.

Is it safe to lineart this bitch yet?

>>5042519
I notice mistakes but keep them anyway, there's a difference.

Sorry bois no lineart to see here.

>>5042574
Keep inhaling that copium

>>5042543
Guess so, you're doing well too! Keep it up!

>>5041483
Is there a MangaMaterials tutorial for drawing the whole figure?

>>5042581
no forms or clearly defined shapes either
sketch before you draw

Horny practice.

>>5042719
Yes, your choice of loomis, vilppu or hampton.

Can someone give me tips or advice to improve my lineart

who are artists just good for expression studies

>>5042710
T-thanks anon-sama.

>>5041483
If anybody wanna learn anime coloring here's two ways to color.

>>5043034

>>5043007
Get a sketch book and only draw CSI curves in it

>>5043037
I dont understand how this one work, is there a video process?

>>5043085
Basically it goes like this:
>1: Make a new layer underneath the line art and fill the whole figure with a 50% gray fill.
>2: Paint the shadows with a darker shade of gray. Usually 60% or 70% gray is enough.
>3: Make a new layer above the gray one and paint the colors, then set the layer mode to "Overlay".
>4: Make a new layer above the color one and paint the final details like highlights.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl99s-V3g5w

>>5043102
thanks anon

Is anybody using Clip Studio?
How the fuck do I get rid of this banding?
Can't even find the option to switch to 16-bit color.

>>5043166
Draw on bigger canvas

>>5043102
>furry Vtuber teaches manga style
lolwut

>>5043177
I already draw on a B4 size 350dpi canvas.

>>5042542
eyes are high because cranium is non existent, upper arm is shorter than forearm, hand is massive even before the extra finger, pelvis is more narrow than ribcage so it's a tranny, thigh is longer than torso and it's more due to torso being too short than the thigh too long.
The neck is actually OK relative to the face if you want realistic neck sizes instead of thin animu necks.

>>5042770
I think your taste could be refined...

I've started to draw a few days ago. Here's everything I've copied.

Most of them are from this artist https://www.pixiv.net/users/2397243 there's a gallery with his old sketches on exhentai (he deleted them from his pixiv)

>>5043474
I have all the original drawings separated on a folder

Tear me apart anons

Tear me apart please

>>5043292
Yeah, I've hoarded so many different artists it's hard to pick a few that I really want to copy.

>>5043474
learn perspective/form

>>5043601
Weeb faggots, I swear. ANIME AND MANGA AREN'T ART.

>>5043601
uhhh where are her organs sweety

>>5043601
i like it, the hand/paw is nice

>>5043768
fuck off crab.

>>5043741
Post art then.

>>5043741
>>5043768
Thank you
>>5043764
>organ
What's that?

>>5043601
It lacks gesture and the face needs more volume.
Anyway, I guess I'll take a break for now, any thoughts?

>>5042185
>3B) "Find character sheets online (from anime studios or pose books, etc) and study these extensively (say 2 a day)."
>sheets
check
how ?
give me examples
<-- How do I study this?

>>5043601
torso seems a bit long and narrow. But other than that keep working at it.

>>5043601
arms are wonky, can't seem the legs well enough

>>5043601
looks like turd polish

>>5043191
His tutorials are god-tier for CSP, but his attitude is kinda cringe. He presents himself as this super buff behemoth demon king while trying to act like a kawaii uguu anime girl at the same time.

>>5043166
Rumor has it Celsys doesn't want to update to 10-bit/16-bit color to get rid of banding because most japs still have shit-tier computers with Windows XP on them. And since most pro illustrations are done for smartphone gacha games nobody cares enough to fix the issue.

>>5043636
No, it was more about that you're drawing weird hardcore hentai.
But I feel like my post was way too judgemental, to each their own.

>>5043601
Ears too close together, eyes somehow make the face looks too flat due to their strange positioning maybe because the head is stangely elongated, longcat is long and the arms made of rubber
The leg are like balloons, whats up with the pelvis region?

>>5043812
So are you the same poster as the pic related you're replying to?
I guess not but it's not clear to me.

>>5043601
So, it's bad.
However, I feel like something between bad and decent is fairer in terms of wording.

I think you have the perseverance to become really good but you lack the daily training required to achieve 'really good' results.
I suggest you practice female gesture for at least 30 minutes a day *every day*.
I personally use quickposes.com, you can earn (quite meaningless frankly, because you can just run the pose viewer thingy and not draw) certificates to show to a future employer if you want to go that route.
If you want to get employed by a studio however, I think a diploma in arts at a college/university is a lot more convincing but personally I'm not sold on art school because of the fact that you can just git gud at home without student debt and moving to some small ass apartment that you have to overpay for.
But getting to the gist of what I'm trying to say: I think you need to practice *daily* for *several hours (2 at the very minimum) to achieve results at a worthwhile speed.
I can critique this piece all I want but I don't think that's going to upgrade your skill as much as actual habitual practice and honing of your skill would.

I was quite skeptical about practicing, however in the last 2 months I saw worthwhile improvement by drawing female gestures daily for more than 30 minutes.
I have to stress that I do not adhere to my own standard of the 2 hours per day minimum for the practice to be worthwhile.
My job-related obligations have siphoned my day-to-day energy out of me for the last 5-6 weeks or so.

Thoughts on this? Would appreciate a redline if possible.

>>5044140
just use a ref bro

>just constructed a head that looks alright in less than 10 seconds

im gonna make it bros...

>>5044142
... even if you use a ref, stuff can go wrong, especially if you deviate here and there. If it wasn't the case then no one would get mentorships at places like Ateliers and whatnot if all you need is just a ref bro to make it flawless.

>>5043818
3B exercise is to draw a specific character in a pose you decide on, then ask someone else to rate it from 1-10.

everyone says to use construction, but how should i use it

>>5044156
if you can overlap the ref to your drawing you can see your mistakes if theres any, but if what you want to draw is from imagination the grind will be insane before you can make descent complete drawings, until then is better to use a ref for finished works if what you aim is for a carbon copy or not that's on you but using a ref will make it easy to see your mistakes, better than waiting for someone to tell you ''it's good dude, just learn some perspective/anatomy for x ''

>>5044175
You're right. I did use a ref but ended up deviating from it so much as I drew this it's not really helping anymore.

>>5044182
post the ref anon, at least get something outta this maybe me or some other anons can tell you your big fuck ups

>>5044186
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/86110888

>>5044171
search for the video course thread in the archives anon, everyone has to learn figure drawing, you need more questions ask the dum dum question threads

>>5043037
Here's a tut on painting with the Watercolor Brush on CSP.

>>5044190
you should look at your ref more and your drawing less.

>>5044190
>https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/86110888
were you trying to copy the pose or the drawing, because if it is the first then you need to know anatomy to only abstract the pose and change the stylization to your own not to mention that a lot of the body is covered so it's even harder

>>5044140
That's supposed to be Una, right?

>>5044237
>>5044263
It is Una yup.
Here's what I got so far. Thoughts? Anything weird?

Is this the right way to go about this? Top I drew referencing the character sheet, bottom are some sketches I drew from memory afterwards.

>>5044274
these are arms are too thinn, you don't know how to stylize it yet to make it work theres a lot of shit that needs to be fixed but for now is better if you study anatomy if you want to improve

>>5044504
Looks good.

>>5044547
That's useful. Thank you for your time!

>>5044504
Is there even a correct way is the question. I would say just do what feels right to you as long as you feel yourself improving.

>>5044588
I think it helped me get my head around the general shape of simplified anime faces a bit.
The random faces I doodled after felt like they had better form than I usually manage.
Not really animu and the pen I used is cancer but whatever.

what do you call this style?

Shingo Fujii just made a fanbox page
https://fujiishingo.fanbox.cc/

Also patreon coming soon too.
https://twitter.com/monsuun/status/1335416732597379075?s=19

>>5043821
>>5043826
>>5043828
Thank you
>>5043873
I realized the pelvis is wrong too, probably because I draw the thighs like they're attached straight into the hips rather than flowing into it.
>>5043812
>>5043899
Thank you for your reply.
It is true that I never actually practiced gesture drawing seriously, but I do draw every day, mostly drawing subjects I like to build my visual library.
So now I should also shift my focus to gesture right? Is there anything else I should focus on?

>same poster
Nope, not me

>>5044706
These look okay. Keep it up

>>5041490
I got bored and redrew. I couldn't tell where the bow was coming from, so I dropped it.

>>5044826
Now THAT is awesome.

For anyone wondering who he is and/or what he worked on:

https://myanimelist.net/people/31169/Shingo_Fujii
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=shingo_fujii

Thoughts?

>>5045063
is that a boy? is they preggers? just asking cause the shoulders are quite big for a loli

>>5045134
lol. She was supposed to be a girl but things went wrong in the end, I guess. Here is my construction.

>>5045039
it's held onto the back of the head by cartoon physics.

I'm practicing eyes as well as copying them, do the bottom two on the right look weird? the red/pink eye kinda reminds me of plastic and looks uncanny.
Should I put less detail for anime eye or should I go with detail like the bottom two on the right?

>>5045496
Really depends what vibe you're going for as well as personal preference. I like these eyes the best since they strike that balance between simple while still having some depth to them. But the rest of the face construction and hair rendering should compliment it as well. Like the pink eyes on the far left feel more graphic/manga-y. I like them too.

>>5045225
>Akari

Absolutely fucking based. My first waifu.

>>5045197
-Make the shoulders and upper torso more narrow
-Widen the hips

Then it'll look fine. Maybe lengthen the arms just a bit.

>>5045506
I was mainly wondering if the more realistic ones looked weird or not.
Still thanks for telling me which ones look good

I need help thinking and drawing in 3D. How do I go about doing this?
The only way I can think I can think of is to use a CSP 3D model and rotate it and draw it a bunch of times from different angles until I memorise it.
However the models aren't too detailed so I don't know if it's the right thing to do.

anyone know any good trad animu artists on twitter?

>>5045730
https://drawabox.com/lesson/2/1/lying

Anyone got some artfags who can draw good looking anime boys?
I realized that I'm all too focused on girrs, and while I like it I want to be able to draw men well too, but I don't know of many artists who specialize in that.

>>5045755
summon purin, she lurks and posts from time to time

>>5045496
>>5045506
Which artists are those two from originally?

>>5045530
occured to me this past week that she's a great filter to find 90s nip artists with excellent taste for study.

>>5045726
Sorry, these all looked good to me so I glossed over the "which looks weird" part of the post. The blue eye on the right reads more as anime. It's bright and keeps that stylization of more typical anime eyes like the larger pupils and the shape. Pink is leaning more towards realism i.e. not exaggerated. But in the end I still personally like the first two I chose.

Studying?? What, is there gonna be a test or something??

>>5046237
ugh

>>5046237
Cute

He can be the master of -my- universe.
Looked better before the red markering. Ah well.

>>5046237
>can't handle studying anime
We've found a lifeform lower than those who study anime.

>>5046271
"ugh" yourself!

>>5046289
Thank you!

>>5046488
Meh. I'm too busy having fun!

>>5046562
But studying is fun, anon.

feedback?

What are the best resources for learning how to draw anime faces in weird angles? I'm looking at the pixiv guides now, but was wondering if any of you had a good jumping off point to get me started in the right direction.

I tried to follow a tutorial on coloring, interesting stuff.

>>5046761
Learn anatomy
>>5046967
Loomis

>>5046761
Some parts on their own are ok but somehow everything else is kind of a mess when put together. Eyes too high on the face and too close together. More anatomy reps but you're getting the right idea.

>>5046967

>>5046761
everything is wrong like all of it, quick answer back to loomis aka go re read your fundies, your drawing screams symbol drawing, everything lacks form because you don't know the anatomy beyond basic chit like leg = cylinder, ribcage= box and so on, also that cape or whatwever is so half assed like com'on at leas add some drappery, the face ... the big problems are the jaw being to boxy and the sticker eyes. everything i mentioned can't be fixed by a redline because you don't know exactly what every lines convey since you don't know anatomy let alone properly use forms to construct whihc isn't hard. from here you either grind anatomy or use refs.

>>5047205
Not trying to be rude but faces aren't flat, they kinda curve inwards, even anime faces, some artists even exaggerate this to give a sense of 3D. You see this on 3D anime models in games and so on.
They normally curve the bottom eye lids, or don't put them at all and change the shape of the iris to imply 3D, I don't see really anybody put straight bottom eye lids, they're slant or curved.
That said some western cartoons do keep the eyes flat, so there's that.

>>5046967
Have fun
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/82152183

>>5047172
>tutorial on coloring
Which one?

>>5047293
yours is a different angle and even in my drawing the curvature is there but not as prominent as your pic which is from below so it's even more uhhh prominent try a front view slighty turned to one side and you will see it like this one

>>5047301
>>5043037
this one

>>5047304
oh sorry, I didn't see the slight curvature you put

>>5047326
Ah, thanks

>>5045755
What type of men do you want to draw? Muscular? Skinny? Shota?

>>5047760
Right now I need refs for
>ikemen type young men
>shota/kids
>old men
It's not like I don't have my favorite artists to sample things from but most specialize in girls so I'd like to get some more styles to explore, throw me your favorites

Rough sketches. Not trying to do polished stuff/copy 1 to 1, but trying to feel the form. I still don't feel it completely, but my depth/form perception is kinda increasing.

When it comes to the eyes, how the hell do you get them to match? I have tried every way and my eyes always are off considerably.

I don't completely draw one eye then try to do the other, I try to do both at once. I've tried guidelines and everything, any suggestions?

I've tried drawing Rukias eyes, and other eyes, and I just seemingly can not make symmetrical/identical eyes correctly. From any angle, and it's very frustrating.

>>5048075
>any suggestions?
Practice. Pick a method and stick with it. Copy and draw a bunch of pairs of eyes from imagination every day until you get it.
To try vizualizing the shape better, you could maybe try inscribing it inside a pentagon. Most animu eyes can be deconstructed that way, with a horizontal line at the bottom and an angle somewhere on the top ridge.
Hate to say it but besides that I don't think there are any particular tricks, you have to brute force it until you get it.

>>5048256

This wasn't a "serious" attempt by any means, just a 30 min doodle trying to get it close, obv it's off quite a bit

>>5048272
loomis bruh

>>5048273

Bruh, I don't need loomis, gtfo with that meme shit

>>5048272
Hitokaku

>>5048276
Your art is proof of that, you tell that anon what you need and don't need and put him in his place

>>5048281

There is no "needing" loomis, I know how to properly place features, god forbid one shitty sketch isn't perfect. Especially when it was done in 30 fucking minutes off and on.

>>5048288
>Especially when it was done in 30 fucking minutes off and on.
Why post it then? Retard.

>>5048290

Why are you insulting people who are just posting their sketches and doodles? Let's see your work then you fucking prick.

>>5048288
>it was done in 30 fucking minutes
kek

how do you start drawing an anime figure? do you start with simple shapes? Do you start with the gesture?

A lot of shit talkers here against people when they aren't even posting their own shit, full blown autism.

>>5048288
With loomis you will do anime faces in less than 5 minutes, but /beg/s hate this one tip

>>5048303
https://securesha.re?#u=0f1ff6474cd3f644e1db480b6a5ad728.bin&p=19mOuRB_evfeZPSGoph7mgG0SIhVXSjW3O52W8mu/So
This is why you do loomis retard

>>5048075
i have a cheat for you and its real fucking easy

duplicate the eye and warp it til it looks right, flip the image horizontal and do fixes, flip it back and repeat til it tooks good in both orientations

its what i do when the angle of the face allows for a fair bit of symmetry, in fact you should keep flipping horizontal repeatedly when drawing the face. for example i used the trick to do the left eye on this pic

>>5048325
i doubt that tradfag has a light table to duplicate his drawing

>>5048302
you can do stick figure or gesture. stick figure might help you figure out poses and angles better but gestures are better for actually roughing out placement and proportions of body parts

>>5048272
Remember that there's about an eye of width between the two eyes. Even if it's slightly less that that in that particular case- yours are too close.
And don't shit on Loomis too fast. If you don't like his book try Hitokaku or other similar books deconstructing the human figure into simpler forms, even reading these a little can help you a lot.

>>5048313

I said I did it in 30 minutes off and on, I was just adding to it every 5 mins or so, I didn't do it for 30 minutes straight.

People have no reading comprehension I swear.

>>5048366
Zoomers and their fish attention span

>>5048364

I've read them a million times, I've drawn more loomis heads than I care to count. This was just some random ass doodle I didn't put much effort into. I know how to simplify shit.

I know the eyes are too close, one isn't as wide as it should be. There's plenty of shit wrong with it, I know. It was just a random fucking doodle. And people are acting like it was a serious sketch.

>>5048374
post them loomis heads, i know you wont

>>5048384

I don't have any on hand. I threw a ton of papers out.

>>5048385

Not to mention posting a ton of generic heads is a waste of time

>>5048387
larp better

>>5048385
>throwing out your practice
I don't get it

>>5048392
leaving a pile of naked anime girls sitting around your room is not without risk.

>>5048513
mommy knows

>>5048524
Nobody besides your mom comes over to your place?

>>5048526
since when she started breathing again?

>>5048272
>interrupting your fundies to draw anime
shame

>>5048288
>30 mimutes
>just a sketch
>30m min
>just a floating head

......

>>5048843
pyw

>>5048921
heres a floating head sketch, it was 4min or 5 i think....

>>5048939
Fuck you wormslut

>>5048951
cry more, i love seeing the salty tears

>>5048959
at least say you are not me if you are gonna shitpost

>>5048961
i'm everyone in here besides (you)

>>5048272
>>5048366
>>5048387
>>5048288
>"god, how fucking dare you give me suggestions even after i asked. it was just a 30 min doodle stop giving me advice and suggestions. btw it was just a 30 min doodle i didn't even try"

>>5048939
>lying on the internet

>>5048374
>he says this while coming to the thread for help

>>5048983
>never joined a public online drawing session to see others speed

>>5048987
Then you should know how fast beginners draw dumbass.
Also, how do I hook my pencil up to the internet?

>>5048939
>>/ic/thread/5035333#p5035887
>posting others peoples work

>>5048999
you don't need to hook up your pencil to see others drawing

>>5048374
The head is flat. Someone who knows what they're doing is not going to draw a head flatly even if they had to sketch one in 30 seconds, let alone 30 minutes.

>>5049000
>40 min delay time between post and reply
Well well well, what do we have here?

>draw anime girl
>”that looks wonky”
>”I’ll just fix that line there”
>”that angle’s too sharp”
>”needs a little more detail here”
>”that’s not anatomically right”
>”all right... I think I got it!”
>zoom out
>it’s a photorealistic human
Goddamnit not again

>>5048513
What's wrong with that? It's art. I leave my sketchbook with nude art open all the time

I can do pretty basic anime eyes but how do I go about getting more detailed with em? The irises more specifically

>>5048318
>https://securesha.re?#u=0f1ff6474cd3f644e1db480b6a5ad728.bin&p=19mOuRB_evfeZPSGoph7mgG0SIhVXSjW3O52W8mu/So

>Proof why you should do Loomis

"File not found" LMAOOOOO BIG OOF

>>5049458
post eyes

>>5049458

I suggest you make them bigger. You should also give Mark Crilley's Mastering Manga books a read, I found them incredibly helpful in understanding the fundamentals of the manga style. He gives many examples of how to draw anime/manga eyes in his first book.

If you're going for detail with Irises, you should take a look at the way Takehiko Inoue, Takeshi Obata and other seinen manga artists draw their eyes.

Any advice for using a G pen?

>>5049501
The trad nib pen?

>>5049567
Clip studio paint

>>5049567
Yes, Traditional Nib pen, I bought the deleter Pen set and I'm afraid to use it on my pencil sketch.

>>5049615
>>5049567
This is what I'm about to ink

>>5049618
if you've never used one before, you should probably practice your lines and inking on something else first.

>>5047987
from the mega links
>how to draw shota
https://mega.nz/folder/UcNG2AiT#jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw/folder/VFVjhSKb
>how to draw ojii-san
https://mega.nz/folder/UcNG2AiT#jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw/folder/sFVB3KQS
>how to draw moe/ikemen boys
https://mega.nz/folder/UcNG2AiT#jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw/folder/1dF33CyJ
>how to draw men
https://mega.nz/folder/UcNG2AiT#jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw/folder/wId1wCZB

>>5049626
That's all I needed to hear, I'm storing this drawing until I do draw something else. Thank you

>>5049618
How come you want to ink it if you already used such dark values? Seems odd to me

>>5044769
Polygonal graphics.

>>5049634
I heard people telling me to get as much detail into a sketch before inking

>>5049615
the feel is nice when you get used to it. Also the paper needs to be thick enough, maybe 80 to 100 gsm or higher. Unfortunately my work station isn't big enough to have a paper, water, ink in it. My tablet is just sitting below it so I stopped using it altogether. It's too risky for the tablet.
I do like the gpen brush you can download on the csp asset store tho. It has the same feel as the real one

>>5049645
not the anon you're replying to, but the sketch is way too dark. Watch murata or any trad mangaka's process. They usually ink over a light sketch on paper.

>>5049658
I see, you're right. I guess i learned something, How on earth do mangakas know how to detail it without messing up if it's a lightsketch?

>>5049662
Experience, duh

>>5049662
mileage I guess? This is why I stick to digital >_>

>>5049668
https://youtu.be/2t_9uqKA9Tw?t=14
I see Murata using his pen to create light grey lines as well as the normal dark lines that these pens make. How does he do it?

>>5049675
you can change your lineweight depending on how you put pressure on the gpen

>>5049678
I'm so stupid, I was afraid of bending the metal so eased up the pressure.

>>5049686
did you remove the thin film/coating of the nib? I don't remember if it applies to gpen or just normal calligraphy pens but apparently you have to wash the nib or have a flame go through it bc there's a coating wrapped around the nib (to prevent rusting) that makes it hard for ink to flow through

https://www.crookedcalligraphy.com/blog/2017/10/4/calligra-tip-the-best-way-to-clean-new-nibs

>>5049750
Had no idea, it didn't feel oily at all to me though when i touched the nib.

>>5049662
Confidence
Inking a sketch that dark would be very pointless since the dark pencil marks would override the look of it

How to I stop myself from instinctively adding depth and shadow and accidentally turning my anime girl into a photorealistic statue?

>>5049826
control yourself?

>>5049826
Do studies of good anime paintings and slap yourself for being bad every time you forget

My line is shit, how can i study lineart?
what things i should consider when making lines?

>>5049887

>>5049816
>>5049750
>>5049678
>>5049672
>>5049668
>>5049658
>>5049654
>>5049634
>>5049626
Thank you for the replies, I partially inked it and when it dries I'm erasing everything with a gum erasor and switching to grey copics. I think it looks nice despite the dark sketch it initially was, and the gum erasor should erase really well while not messing with the ink due to how crumbly it is. I really want to stick to traditional since I really like the looks of it. What do you guys think? I'll see any replies when I wake up since it's 3 AM and I need sleep

>>5049889
>>5049887
what style or artist are you going for

>>5041483
Every art teacher on Earth thinks they hate Manga style, in reality they hate "American trying to copy manga" style. I imagine if I handed them an Araki they'd like it.

>>5049903
I think it's more because since its so stylized it teaches bad anatomy at times. But Yeah I did noticed if you switched to western art they magically shut the fuck up.

>>5049896
ygmi

>>5049896
Why no cast shadows

>>5047205
you seem to be an assblasted gook, tell us who hurt you?
you seem more concerned with finding a reason to trash other people's work than actually giving advice

it's alright to demonstrate the curvature between the glutes/fat pads and the hamstrings but sperging because the leg has no more defined muscles it's a pure garbage feedback, it's a fucking animu girl,
it's totally ok in not showing shit like the adductor and sartorius,or will you also tell me that pic related is just a "cylinder" leg?
and since you like to shit on everyone, post a fucking finished work of yours

>>5049896
>first time with a g-pen
I always knew I was a complete retard when it came to ink, but it hurts a little seeing it confirmed.

>>5049896
looks nice m8

>>5050014
Are you purposely being retarded or...?

>>5050051
at least post an argument nigger

>>5049903
Because Araki uses Renaissance artists as inspiration/reference. If you look at Michelangelo, you'll see what Araki gained from his art.

>>5050224
https://youtu.be/3qM2vHahcqQ
You can see him using Renaissance drawings as refs here. This man is very based.

I wonder if I can actually draw good stuff before the year rolls.

>>5050246
>black smeared on her asscheeks
>flesh colored chalk

>>5049921
>>5050020
>>5050045
I didn't expect this from /ic/ the ygmi is a rare compliment i don't take for granted.
>>5049929
Like on the legs from the dress? I'm on it with a copic marker.

>>5050246
Reminds me of Doskoinpo and he's a succesful doujin artist so you have a market if you're into femdom.

>>5050766
>>5050045
>>5050020
>>5049921
Forgot to say thank you!

>>5050246
i've seen worse on twitter getting yous
shrug
you should put more shadow down though....dont be afraid

>>5050829
>>5050766
might not mean much because I'm a lurker but imo ygmi just because you are grinding and taking advice. You clearly are enjoying the processes so I already know you will reach the level you want eventually. The only criticism I'd say is just work on hatching and values in the shadows and learn where they are at and maybe the shouldler is a little

>>5050867
>The only criticism I'd say is just work on hatching and values in the shadows and learn where they are at
Thank you for the criticism, I will practice hatching, I've only done that one other time and I was trying to make it "blend" with the large areas of filled ink.

>>5049898
Now I'm trying to do something simililar to kinu Nishimura I know it doesn't look like it but I get confused and end up doing it poorly

>>5050068
Imagine being this mad because someone points out some work is shit and provides a redline. Do you have nothing better to do with your day than sperg out online over crit you don't find worthy? If you're so assblasted about his redline, do your own fucking redline of the same guy's work, retard. Oh, wait. You probably can't.

Posting some random art doesn't mean shit; if you can't compete via redline, why are you bitching about someone else's? Crabs crying over shit they can't even do themselves/complaining this hard about others trying to help without even doing it themselves is hilariously anencephalic.

And if you're the artist, it's genuinely pathetic that you'd rage this hard on some guy trying to help, especially when they're obviously fuckin esl.

>>5050014
>>5050068
kys crab

>>5050014
>asks for feedback on shitty drawing then spergs out bc response was too harsh.

Kill yourself.

>>5050014
>>5050068
> esl guy tries to redline and help a shit artist
> writes an imperfect esl explanation
> "your explanation wasn't clear enough so this isn't valid"
> "I won't take this crit because you didn't cover every potential body case ever in one reply on an imageboard"

Kill yourself, faggot. If you want detailed crit and the entirety of a subject explained to you, then sign up for classes or go watch some course lectures. Don't expect that out of every random online.

Also, you'd have to be a blind retard (which you are) to not realise that doing a redline that extensively redraws that much of the body is a sign of how much he knows. Because shitty redlines demonstrate shitty knowledge. It's basic fucking logic.

He was entirely correct, but forget about loomis or more practice. Just fuck off forever, because this sort of anti-criticism attitude where you're just huffing your own farts is the epitome of ngmi.

another sketch that i'll never finish

some of you begs need to stop posting work on ic if you don't actually want your shit critted. you also need to stop posting in a way that deflects responsibility for your shittiness onto some external factor (because "I'm actually good, I just didn't work hard on this piece specifically!").

I'm talking about people who get crit and then immediately call people gooks and niggers because they didn't write them a fucking essay, but there are also all these other posts.

"just sketched this" or "quick sketch" are fine ways to put things. but look at this single fucking thread for examples of people not taking responsibility.

>just drew it in 30 minutes by spending 5 minutes adding to it on and off because I didn't care
>I know how to place things properly, stop critting my shitty sketch because it isn't perfect
>I don't give a fuck about your crit because it wasn't my "serious" work anyway
>I don't intend to finish this
>never going to finish this

it's always the same. "I don't intend to finish this, so it's bad but IDC, and I don't have to try and improve or change". or "I didn't give it 110% of my effort, and it was JUST a DOODLE, so fuck off, I don't need better fundies at all".

if you don't intend to finish something or at least fix it up in accordance with crit you receive, why are you posting it on a critique board? if you don't think your shitty sketch should be critted because you didn't "put all your effort into it", or if you think that everyone telling you that your quality/time ratio is horrendous is wrong because you "weren't working that hard" and you split up your time, why are you posting this shit on a critique board? post your doodles on your actual social media or some shit if you're that starved for attention. don't go to a critique board and then be offended and get hyper defensive and absolve yourself of any responsibility for your own goddamn drawings when people give you critique.

>>5051191
>inb4 not wanting sketches to be posted is retarded

I'm not saying to not post sketches, I'm saying not to post them with a retardedly closed mindset. yes, ic has a lot of crabs, but if you're going to post your work and immediately spiral into "oh but I didn't try! I didn't care! I don't care at all!" as soon as you get crit, the crabs are not the problem, because face it: at that point, it doesn't even matter if the advice is good or not. you're just lashing back by default and shoving the blame onto something else. your mentality is the problem.

>>5051202
Agreed.
I think it's worth critiquing people until they start throwing insults as the response to the feedback. At this point they should just be ignored. No point of arguing with them - it's just spam.

I admit, I sometimes post things with stuff like "rough sketch" or "just a sketch" to just indicate that it was less than 5-10 minutes per pose and that I don't want people to think that the stuff presented is my linework/finished works. What I want to get from it is if it looks anime, if I'm doing something REALLY wrong (e.g. forgetting about some basic anatomy or making some parts of the body way much bigger/smaller than they are).

I think that the level/depth of critique should depend on the time that the poster has spent on the work, e.g. if you see construction of muscle, it's worth pointing out subtle anatomy mistakes. If it's clearly something very simple (e.g. using cylinder form as an arm), then it's silly to critique arms in-depth.

Date Naoto Deconstruction Illustrated
Is this like Hitokaku where copying it is enough to understand it and the text doesn't add much?

>>5051435
looks good until you get to the body types and perspective which are at the end

>>5050857
I still don't understand how to render shadow

>>5051924
shift hue a little to whatever is the predominant color from the entire image, for skin you just go to red, lower the value while upping the saturation, you would only lower the resolution if the shadow it taking bounce light color from the opposite side of the color wheel

>>5051924
just something you get better at the more you do it. Remember one thing, just dont use brown or grey or black. Use red and experiment with other colors.

>>5050014
Gtfo nigger
>>5051191
You are right but holy cope faggot

>>5051970
how am i coping by pointing out other people coping lmao

>>5051431
yeah it's retarded, i wonder if it's even the artist or just some random crab shitting around
i think it's fine to specify working time or something being just a sketch, but using it as an excuse for overly, blatantly, obviously poor quality is braindead. like the poster earlier in this thread.

>>5047205
Anon come redline our work in in beg sometimes, we’d appreciate you bro

>>5051106
>>5051132
That wasn't me btw, I really appreciate the critique, I know that I'm a /beg/ and that's why I'm asking for help. I've been focusing too much on figure drawing, so I try to avoid drawing fabric at the moment. I like /ic/ because it isn't a hugbox like reddit or twitter, I've gotten many replies like >>5047205 with equally harsh comments and equally good redlines, that's the only reason why I keep coming to this shithole.

>>5051985
I never went to Reddit but almost did when I couldn't find anywhere else to go. My first two pieces got nice critique and I learned how to sketch and ink with a G pen thanks to the guys here. I'll be sure to continue posting here.

Are there any guides to doing high/low angle views of the body?
I try to do them but they end up looking bad. I don't know how far to tilt the body parts or how big it should be.

>>5050051
>>5051103
>>5051106
>>5051132
>>5051970

How do you fall for bait this badly made?

I know the ankle/foot is fugged but I kinda lost the will to continue with this
>>5043601
I wanna tear apart pitous bussy

>>5052116
Personally think the left eye should be moved a bit closer but I like this! The style is appealing to me. Did you study how to do highlights and cel shading from a specific artist or is this your own after some work?

>>5052116
>bussy
That thing is boy? Fuck

>>5052116
looks good enough

>>5052116
>I kinda lost the will to continue with this
well youre a retarded one cause it looks great

I'm trying to understand how do draw lolis.
They eye heights being exception I tried to make the two at the top look like the bottom image crop.

Does the left one look alright? I based it on a toddler on the top of the bottom two images.

The right just feels like a regular young anime teen girl even though I drew it with similar proportions to a toddler. I don't know how to draw a toddler without making it look as old as that.

>>5052584
**Does the left one look alright? I based it on a *baby*

Do I have to learn this for anime?
I don't mind, it's just that I don't feel like I'll really need this unless I draw zombies or something.

>>5052584
Add shoulders, make them narrower than you usually do.

>>5052612
nah. most poses you'll make use the same 4-5 hands. learn how to draw those from specific references and you're good.
just because your hand realistically can look like a bunch of different things doesn't mean it's a good design.

>>5052584
You could stand to go rounder depending on taste, but they're both perfectly fine tbqh, most of it rests on the head:body ratio and limb thickness anyway.

>>5052612
You only need to learn surface anatomy.

>>5052116
Yoo my man this is pretty good. Actually saved.
I think I know this character but can't remember..

>>5052612
Since the hand barely has any muscles, yes you do need to know this.

is this a good face style?
would you have me use it?

I’ve never heard of anime before today and have never tried to draw such a thing but I tried my best anime noggin.
Copying anime seems dumb to me unless you’re working on a show and have to draw the in-house style. Why not just study real life and then you can simplify it how you want, anime or not.

>>5052989
WIDER

>>5052989
yeh

>>5052989
What brush? Looks nice.

gonna try something.

starting from minimal experience. 3 months of dedicated practice. everyday. i'll post results on march 9th. see u then

daily reminder to never give up and ygmi.

>>5053205
post regularly so we can bully you.

is this available on exhentai or 13dl?
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4295005630/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_HFk0FbA15WH06?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

>>5052612
yes. Know what to simplify.

>>5052612
yes ideally helps to know the key parts

Oddly specific but are there any tutorials on how to design a good anime mascot character? Every time I search something similar I end up with american sports mascots.

I suppose I could just look at the millions of japanese mascots that exist and study those but if anyone has any sort of design notes from shows or something that would be handy.

>>5053678
https://ichi-up.net/2018/068
https://conte-anime.jp/character/chara-making
the best i could quickly find

>>5050014
Fuck off.

Do we have this book?

"Hmmm. Today I will post in /asg-"
>Reads thread
Nah.

Any critique?
I had some trouble with the head, and face.
I tried to tilt the body and head so it wouldn't be as stiff. However I don't really know how to make this pose not stiff unless I make it wacky like mario hammering something.

Brainlett here, what is this meant to show?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHjJZ8oZt4o&t=349s
I get that the far right is meant to show that the eyes are are drawn considering the eye socket. But I can't see the difference.

I just draw irises assuming that they're on an orb, the eyeball, and distort them according to perspective or how the eyeball rotates. What am I meant to do?

>>5053866
Thank you for taking the time to look, anon! The first link is especially helpful.

>>5054370
>house is wider at the base than the top
I don't know how many more times I can say it, but work on perspective.

>>5054370
Exaggerating the pose will make it look less stiff overall. Watch some animations of people swinging hammers and find a more fun and appealing keyframe that really sells the energy. Maybe have the roof of the house look like it's bent a little where the hammer hits it.

>>5054729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_WOnaDvalg

>>5054630
Anime eyes are set slightly in the back of the skull. You can see the effect if you draw an anime head in 3D in blender in greasepencil and rotate the head. When you use the sculpt tools or set the eyes back by dragging the eyes back, the animu looks a lot more legitimate.

>>5054796
Just like eyes do in real life, anon...

>>5054796
Sorry I don't quite understand.
Do I draw a skull and just chuck the eyeballs inside and then cover them with the eyelids?
I don't see how this looks different from how anime eyes normally look.

can somebody tell me what these are?
I always see them when girls spread their legs.
Is it the abductor longus, the pectineus?
It looks really hard and not really like a muscle, so I'm not too sure.

>>5054837

>>5054877

>>5054877
Vagina bone minoris
Why are there so many "what's this muscle called" questions lately?

>>5054891
>>5054892
can't you just tell me what it's called.

>>5054895
you'll have better answers on a medical forum

>>5054877
>>5054895
Unless you're doing detailed drawings of burly dudes with low bodyfat, there's no real point in singling a muscle out from its function group. The adductors(abductors abduct things away from the center line of the body) all insert along the pubic ramii there.

>>5054899
>>5054904
Then why did most of you guys say that you have to remember all the muscles to this question>>5052612

>>5054908
I wonder why

>>5054908
Because /asg/ isn't one person. You mainly need to learn the bones and three chunks of meat: abductor of pinky is your outside edge, the interrosei that abducts index gives you the lump on the back side of your hand between index and thumb, and all the pollicis shits together give the big lump on the palm side of thumb.

>>5054877
senpai I don't remember I just know it as vagina bone
check stonehouse or anatomy for sculptors for the proper terminology

>tfw compelled to purchase artbooks because it’s easier than transferring highres scans from my pc to my phone
there has to be a better way

I have the spice and wolf art book as well as the breaker. If I try to copy it everyday will I see an improvement in my ability to draw?

>>5055078
If you need them on the go why not just print the book PDF's?

>>5055083
no

>>5055083
yes

>>5055083
maybe

>>5055085
>>5055088

Broski this is confusing.

>>5055083
probably. but you already have the book, what is there to lose? post your results as you please if you want advice or any specific critique, but if you're starting with nothing and learning only by copying be prepared for the critique to be "study fundamentals"

Any critiques?

>>5055223
Loomis for heads

>>5055231
what's wrong with them I thought that I got them right.

>>5054883
What did he mean by this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRmgLBCaV6Q
>find an art role model to copy
How the fuck do you just pick one person? I'm having such a hard time narrowing it down.

>>5055232
never mind, found my problem for the right one

>>5055232
The one on the right has a chin that goes out too far and the head goes out too far.

>>5055248
>one person
You don't. Pick your favorites and combine into your artworks

>>5055280
That's how you end up with western art. Follow the japanese method to make anime even if they use methods that is looked down upon over here.
>>5055248
Just pick one you like the most, loving multiple is a good problem to have though, you got passion.

>>5055287
Not really? Make your inspo all eastern artists and you'll have no problem.

>>5055248
>before is /ic/ trash
>after is still bad, but an improvement
he says he’s done art for dragalia lost? is he the main artist? i’d take his advice more seriously if so

>>5055287
>Just pick one you like the most
I guess that would be the first one that pops into my mind but I still have a hard time picking a favorite since I think of other artists that I like that are also good immediately after my first thought

>>5055279
Thank you, I sort of figured it out a shortly after posting it, still thank you.
Is there anything else I can work on?

>>5055429
That was the only thing my bad self could point out.

>>5055248
/beg/, here. how do i use references to draw from imagination like this guy? it’s hard.

>>5055700
sticky

>>5055709
Elaborate

>>5055742
https://discover.hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn

just practicing some construction and inking

>>5055742
read the sticky of /ic/. It's the top thread above all others.

Any critique?
I'm not used to coloring especially with hair

>>5055429
her torso doesn't look mfemenine and the feet on the right pic look really off specially the right foot

>>5055774
I actually used a young girl for the reference.
They don't have much curves so I guess it looked awkward, I also really got to work on feet in general.
Thanks

>>5055791
those arms/neck are too thick and her chest is too small not her tits

>>5055751
those are some tentacle arms and a long neck

I'm learning how to draw just to draw my waifu.

>>5055986
Likewise my man

>>5055986
>>5056036
>have to spend time trying to figure out what to draw
>waifufags get a built in default and can put all that time into practice instead
it's not fair.

>>5056060
>he doesn't have multiple waifus to draw
sad

>>5056060
just go to draw threads and complete requests that's what I do

>>5056060
I've literally done nothing but draw my waifu for the past month. While it's nice to have something to draw all the time, it's still painful to look at all the art of your waifu that look terrible. It's a double-edged sword.

>>5056060
Right is late august with reference, left is a few days ago with reference. Just use reference to practice your muscle memory
>>5056089
Just complete drawings at random if you don't have a waifu. Try drawthreads and complete requests.

>>5056108
>>5056060
I messed up the replies in this post >>5056108
you each got the wrong message i meant to send because I've been doing nothing but draw boxes all day and I'm tired.

I fucked it up again. Ok I'm going to sleep before i try to post again

>>5056060
draw requests if you have no ideas, it's convenient. tg for intricate rpg shit, wwhd for cute/cutelewd requests/scenarios with 1 or 2 characters, general drawthreads on other boards for random bullshit and titty rqs, b for porn, avatarfagging, and speed drawing so that you can post multiple times before the thread dies.

>>5056060
>>5056196
or just pick and decide on one character you think is cute and then draw them in everything for practice. there are random idea generators online.

anyone know or have a good guess on what medium urushihara uses? can i use markers for a similar result?

>>5056108
>>5056125
>>5056196
not that anon but I use draw threads but the people in them are usually meh and they have such shit requests sometimes. Just find a waifu or draw whatever girl some instagram cosplay is modeling

>>5056108
you didn't ask but the hair on the girl to the left does not make sense. it doesnt line up with the side of her head, and her head shape cuts off. try redlining this as an outline.

newfag to these threads here, the drawing on the right is with heavy reference, while the drawing on the right was drawn from memory. obviously i fucked up some stuff on both images, but i don't trust my own judgement very well so i'd like some critique.

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>>5056480
>>5056480
>>5056480