/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

First pictures drawn in close to two decades. Can I git gud or....?

repost
Am I doing this "looking up" perspective right?

>finally using /beg/ art for OP again instead of unfunny memes
nice.

Opinion on those random NPC portaits i dod quickly on Paint? This One was colored in CSP

>>5043721
Second one

>>5043714
There are multiple up angles you can draw.
>https://youtu.be/2XF5YuAK63I
>https://youtu.be/g5gKA7hu7Fc
But the face and body look like they are leaning forward to look at the camera a little bit. You should be able to see under the chin at that angle.

What are some good references to learn how to draw limbs?

>>5043714
>>5043724

>>5043732
>>5043727
Im just gonna grind perspective this weekend. I have a really cool idea for a piece but I need to nail an upwards perspective to get it work right

Doing SketchDaily

>>5043801

>>5043803

>>5043706
Just kill me now famalamas

>>5043721
>>5043726
I like the style but feel like it could be refined. Got any more stuff that you've spent more time on?

feedback?

any feedback?

>>5043819
Just my lunch. Jk. Looks good my man

>>5043819
Im getting "Raiden the Elf" vibes

>>5043806
Here's a plane, I still suck at people sadly

>>5043803
>>5043804
your proportions are off. try to remember them when sketching.

>>5043806
not bad, but that shoulder position might be off because of the the you drew it.

>>5043869
Thnx. Should I memorize average proportions and apply them liberally during sketching, or should I try to replicate the source pic as much as possible?

>>5043872
Left shoulder or right? I think they may both be a little buggered.

I think the left one needs to be lowered a little.

The right one I think is completely fucked because I changed the position of the arm part way through doing the linework and didn't update the shoulder accordingly.

>>5043895
>lowered a little
and brought out a bit more*

>>5043891
general proportions is good because everyone is not the same.

>>5043895
I'm looking at her torso and the way she is twisting it. With that in mind I think that her right(left on the drawing) shoulder be lower and lean a bit behind her. The other arm could be lower if you wanted it to be.

GMI or NGMI?

>>5043949
That all depends on you really, if you take the time you can become decent at drawing.

>>5043932
Okay I did a quick and messy edit.

Which one looks better?

>>5043980
the edited version looks more naturally(relaxed shoulder). Just remember about the proportions of the arms when changing the drawing.

>>5043980
The shoulders are facing into the distance in perspective, but the chest is facing at like a 3/4 view towards the viewer - I see in the original you're going for sort of a hip twist but in addition to rotating through the midsection it rotates through the chest cavity. There is a famous example of this mistake, google: "Rob Liefeld Captain America" and you can see how he rotates the chest away from the shoulders.

To fix it, her pointing left arm should be moved significantly forward in the direction she's pointing, and you need to fill in the other side of the shoulder girdle (we should see the area of the left collarbone, with the left shoulder "sleeve' of her costume visible.

>>5043949
Can't wait to see you draw the rest of the body for the frame :)

>>5044005

Maybe I will revisit some day and finish the body Lol. It was more a color study desu.

>>5043990
>more naturally(relaxed
That's nice to hear. It's actually what I was going for but I still need to study how to express emotion/feelings through shoulder gestures. I'll keep in mind the proportion of the arms. Need to fix it a little already.

>>5043998
>Rob Liefeld Captain America
aw no

I see it now. I know what you're talking about. I don't even need google. I'll never forget that image.

I was hoping I had fixed it a little with the edit.

>To fix it, her pointing left arm should be moved significantly forward in the direction she's pointing, and you need to fill in the other side of the shoulder girdle (we should see the area of the left collarbone, with the left shoulder "sleeve' of her costume visible.

Thanks man. I'll get onto it. Honestly I was scratching my head a little as how to fix it but ready this cleared it all up for me.

Godsend.

Anyone know of good printable worksheets for anatomy and figure drawing?

>>5044022
what do you want exactly? Some kind of anatomy reference sheet?

>>5043855
draw a pby 5a catalina black cat

>>5044034
Like this, but free

>>5044009
Sorry to make that comparison... I wouldn't have sunk so low if it wasn't the only similar image I was aware of, lol. For what it's worth the rest of your drawing is very appealing and we all have to make a few thousand anatomy flubs before we can start to easily identify what exactly is making it weird (and you only have to get so good before the average viewer can't tell / doesn't give a fuck). Definitely post your result again after correcting it.

>>5044057
First look at the artbook thread to get any books you might want. Anatomy for Sculptors is one of the better anatomy books and you can get that at the libgen website

>>5044057
I don't know of any worksheets, but whatever that is don't buy it. If those drawings are supposed to be what you're copying that is definitely not the guy you want to learn from because that anatomy is atrocious.

Going through drawabox and the rotating box work is a bit of a bitch, i think i get the gist of what he wants me to understand and overall the result is okay, i think i need more prospective learning.
Any suggestions? Also any advice to not get burn on the more technical topics?

New to art here, using pencil and paper until I get the money for an art tablet.
Is there any other way to take a clear, high quality picture of a paper drawing that isn't with a phone camera?

>>5044064
>>5044068
Thanks bros

>>5044074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwRc9-f_zN4

Scanner is also good and if you can't afford one, your local library might have one for public use.

Welcome to the fun world of art, friend! :)

>>5044072
try to draw want you want(buildings, figures, nature) while you study to help with burnout also take breaks when you feel when you are not understanding a subject. Also one exercise that I like to do is take a picture of a figure doing a pose and try to draw it at a different angle or positions.

>>5044072
For really technical stuff you have to balance it with application - just trying to burn through Draw-a-Box for 3 months or something sounds miserable and honestly you probably wouldn't retain it that well. You're going to be using box forms to construct things in perspective pretty much forever (eventually you'll be able to eyeball a lot of it) so don't be afraid to take a break and try to build a table, a chair, a person from boxes, or just draw something you like and try to incorporate perspective in it.

>>5044086
Thanks fren! Art is surprisingly fun and soothing so far

>>5044074
My scanner won't work with really large pages, so I just pin them up in decent light (window light is fine) and take a picture with a regular digital camera. A decent DSLR is best, anything with a bigger sensor than the tiny one in your phone.

Is this anatomically fine? How can i correct my flaws?

>>5044105
your torso is a bit long, not sure what is happening with your hand, the breast should be flatter because of gravity unless she has fake breast. That is what I see at first glances, also play with the gesture the body looks kind of stiff.

>>5044062
>Sorry to make that comparison... I wouldn't have sunk so low if it wasn't the only similar image I was aware of

It's okay man. Sometimes we need to hear the hard truths.

>Definitely post your result again after correcting it.

I definitely will. Crits only make me feel like I am growing stronger.

>>5043855
This is really cozy man. Reminds me a little of Early Toriyama or Nausicaa.

>>5044090
>>5044095
Thank you
Is "perspective made easy" a good start for it?

I would appreciate a redline if there's anything too wrong with this as I'm unable to tell.

>>5044137
no redline, but the arms are too thin, your torso and chest are not facing the same direction making it look weird.

two yugioh monsters going at it.

>>5043713
you are starting at zero. you have the same chance of getting gud as anybody else starting right now

>>5043714
impossible to tell from one single image. try doing 30 in less than a month then you can review and judge

>>5043721
>>5043726
neat and at least its not soulless. keep doing what you are doing and you can make a decent following on instagram

>>5043801
>>5043803
>>5043804
looking good. try to think more about the 3d forms and push your understanding of them. (start by noticing places where you still slipped back into symbol drawing eg the tits) maybe even deliberately stop giving a fuck about anatomy and correct proportions. or just keep grinding away. in any case you are on your way to
>feel the form

>>5043806
i wouldnt consider you a beginner, be proud of yourself. if you want to maximize your gains try to ignore your wish to go into color and detailed work and go back to gestures, form and (simplified/stylized) anatomy. you certainly dont need to, but you are at a point where art starts to become fun. you can sacrifice that and leverage into a deeper understanding if you regrind fundamentals with your current amount of knowledge

>>5043819
you have a good start on anatomy. keep doing what you are doing if you are fine with that. if not try make one of those sketches presentable. you dont need to polish a turd, just try and see if you can make it clean and confident enough to be labeled as a finished picture instead of one of many practice sketches

>>5043949
GMI if you drop color and go back to drawing and *maybe* monochrome values
NGMI turd factory if you get used to ignoring your fundamental flaws
and as a plus you are already on your way out of the symbol drawing pit, do your best not to fall back in. that is already something to be proud of

>>5044086
I need to save this video. Do you have any for gimp?

>>5044195
Wrong thread?

>>5044215
i wouldn't know. am i good enough for /alt/ yet. they used to keep directing me here and i got sick of it.

>>5044195
Exaggerate the gesture and experiment with less sterile perspective and angles for future pieces.

>>5044202
Wow thanks anon do you have any of your own artwork to share

>>5044234
Alright. i did feel that it came out alot less dynamic than i had in mind.they're supposed to be going at it but they somehow look standing perfectly still.

What are the go to /beg/ books for organic construction?

>>5044155
Thank you.
Here's what I got so far. Any thoughts? Anyone?

>>5044280
arms still look like noodles. i know this is muh style and all but your drawing can benefit from at least a hint of elbows and a noticeable girth difference the arms/forearms and the articulations

>>5044286
>articulations
meant to say joints*

>>5044280
Just add any finishing touches you want and move on; you're not going to gain much mulling over something like this. You're chicken scratching a lot, which shows you're not confident in your forms. Remember that everything you're drawing is a 3D form. Do some practice drawing simple forms like boxes and cylinders in various angles if you feel you need to, and remember to draw them see through. Otherwise, mileage is king.

>>5043730
muscular people, very skinny people (fat people for overall proportions gesture)

>>5044022
take my advice with a grain of salt, but material like that, stuff that is "already digested" will only be a crutch for you in the long run. every good artist had to sooner or later develop their very own understanding of anatomy. material like that is just copying the solutions to their problems. you would be better off trying to copy a photo multiple times (30 minutes - 20 - 15 - 10 - 5) and notice your own shortcuts and develop those.

>>5044072
instead of doing this drawbox meme take a picture of another artist or a photo and deconstruct that into simple forms. then change the size of the forms, rotate them. try to apply that to make a r34 pic of your waifu arch her back more or increase her tit size. you would do better if you read the material but substituted their primitive exercises with your own ideas

>>5044105
it looks a little flat / lifeless. if you drew that from reference you should be able to compare it yourself and see if your anatomy is precise. in any case dont worry about anatomical correctness in one single picture. finish it and make a note to practice some part of the anatomy afterwards. dont get into the habit of mixing the practice and the application of a skill. when practicing, dont worry about how it looks. when producing dont worry about improving your understanding in the middle of the process.

>>5044328
no offense but youre just parroting a very general advice there
youre not in his head, if he likes it and keeps up with it he'll learn and it'll count as mileage.

>>5044137
it is stylized so technically everything is "wrong" when compared to the real world. when doing stylized work you are the only judge of what is good and what is bad (thats why beginners are told to start with doing realism)
other than that, it looks flat, the pose is awkward and not clear, the shoulders are wet spaghetti etc the head is the only thing where you switched into thinking of the 3d form for a short time
if you want to do stylized stuff base it on the real world. take a photo of a real person and try to exaggerate it. doing stylized work from scratch is difficult and you are setting yourself up for failure

>>5044195
if you are going for big, complex pictures you need to start to pay attention to line quality and values in order to keep the picture clear.
look at it from a distance and from up close, take note of which are important and sacrifice the unimportant details to make them clear. same goes for values, your attempt at shading is okay up close but at a quick glance or from a distance it makes the picture confusing. either omit values and make bold clear lines, or start consciously using shapes of brighter and darker value

>>5044235
you welcome! this place helped me a lot and if i can give even one person some good advice it makes me feel nice

>>5044337
If you're >>5044286, then no offense but I'm not really concerned with what you think because you're likely at their level too.

>>5043706
i have this amateurish look on my animu drawings, i want to get rid of it but dont know how.
i cant event mark what is my exact error

>>5043806
I tried to help, but realized that I also need help. I know why people told me to move on.
>>5044195
I feel you pal.

>>5044366
0 line confidence for one

>>5044366
anime is a style, every style is just a combination of exaggerating or simplifying certain real world elements. if you learn the simplified "result" of a style without knowing what its counterpart in the real world looked like it will be obvious that you are copying without understanding. learn to draw real people first

>>5044366
Mostly just lacking practice.

progressing thru vilppu

>>5044386
>0
Fuck off his sketch has better lines than half of this general
>>5044366
You’re on the right track, just remember to use reference and see how things are done different compared to your own drawing. I recommend manga materials if you want some good info on stylized anatomy tips. As for the lines themselves remember to not zoom in too much. It can be harmful when learning to do confident strokes for better line quality

>>5044366
>amateur work
>amateur look

pikachu

can i get a you please its been about 20 faces :(

>>5044423
>white knighting and ass patting
really not a fan of this new form of crabbing lately.

>>5044437

>>5044441
lol thanks

>>5044439
And I’m not a fan of your low-effort critique.

What shading style is this?

>>5044368
focus on big shapes instead of creating a mess

>>5044478
im sorry bro but this is just straight up worse

I never drew a dog before. Do i have a future in art guys?

>>5044476
Dithering.

>>5044366

>>5044486
retard

>>5044512
Thanks, it looks cool

>>5044516
He's right though, it looks like shit.

>>5044478
What the fuck is this

>>5044513

>>5044535
>>5044536
>>5044539
butthurt

>>5044478
>>5044513
if you're going to redline, don't go beyond basic mannequins because this board really isn't too fond of these types of styles. Also, the gifs are annoying, just post the drawing.

>>5044513
nosecuck?

>>5044478
>>5044513
You're just redrawing in your own style.

>>5044550
i wish
>>5044549
its easier for you but not for the original artist
>>5044280

>>5044552
>>5044549
>>5044539
>>5044536
>>5044535
>>5044486
do you have any idea how inorganic it is for someone to post literally 7 different times within an hour for a drawing that isnt all that interesting? What can we expect another 30 replies in the next 4 hours?

>>5044560

>>5044560
Of course not. It's not possible people could react negatively to anything you post, you're just too good. I'm sure anons are just really mad they got critiqued on the work they posted in this thread that is specifically designated for getting advice and critiques.

is this really nosebro? what the fuck he has not improved at all in fucking years... thats scary

even mikufag has developed at least a cleaner style

>>5044570
its an issue of it not being interesting enough to warrant this level of attention

>>5044581
You sound like schizo diaper sniffing retard
Go to sleep

>>5044557
Thank you.

>>>5042920
I haven't gotten any responses in the animation thread yet. How are the fat physics?

>>5044581
If you're the one who posted them you don't really have an unbiased perspective on that.

Here's some werewolf guy I made. I probably should have made the shadows darker. It's not as readable as I thought, although it looked fine on my IPad.

>>5044552
no-line red-line for the complainer

>>5044599
I didn't draw this but okay

>>5044599
i genuinely cant tell which is the "improved" version lmao

>>5044607
Your eyes don't work. You can give up on art.

>>5044526
They look retarded but I can coom to these

>>5044593
Looks lovely, but the chalice should have some of the color of it's surroundings reflected on it, notably his hand. It also feels flat, just adding some very slight curves on the base and rim of the cup to suggest form would be nice.

>>5044366
>be anon
>go into /beg/ thread asking for help
>somehow trigger a schizo retard to go berserk into shitposting
>has somehow destroyed the thread for the next several dozen posts by accident
poor anon

>>5044599

>>5044599
For the lords sake, just post it as an image. No one thinks these retarded flashing gifs are easier to understand. An overlayed redline or even just a side by side is far more readable.

How do I do make t shirt fabric creases easier? Theres a ton of styles for it and i feel overwhelmed

Neglecting studies to draw smut again
How is this? Im not liking the face too much and thinking of redoing it, I think I made her too thick and her legs are weird

>>5044599
Anon I'm not here to shit on you but the .gif thing, although I know it comes from a very good intention, is sort of irritating to watch. I think you should go about it differently. Just saying.

Anyone know a good website for art studies and practices? Having a hard time finding any online for some reason, probably because I’m retarded. If anyone knows some standalone exercises that have helped them, feel free to drop that as well, much appreciated!

>>5044593
Like the other anon said, I would define the chalice a bit more, it’s looks very flat and out of place. The lighting everywhere else is nice and notable, so really shading the chalice will make it fit in and more pleasing to the eye, but because of its color and the fact that it’s much more reflective, it will still stand out which is what I assume you were going for. When I say shading I don’t mean adding black shadows either— really look into how metals (gold specifically) reflects lights and absorbs shadows. Make the shadows colorful. It’ll look great, keep it up!

>>5044697
you can do some timed gesture at croquis cafe at vimeo other than that I don't know of any

>>5044614
Thanks friend! I completely forgot about reflections.

>>5044697
dab

>>5044700
Oh cool I didn’t know they did free online sessions, I’ll definitely try that! Thanks

>>5044690
Agreed!

>>5044703
Couldn’t find anything under that name

>>5044703
>>5044709
draw a box is soul draining, peter hans dynamic sketching accomplishes the same thing but is less grueling and more fun

>>5044368
>>5044478
>>5044560
I've just walked my dog home. Thanks for putting your time on this. I touched up the sketch a little to prove that I am the OP.

>>5044673

>>5044725
Thanks a bunc-
>Tranny girl
Fuck, I never made that connection and now Im unsure if I want to finish drawing this character

>>5044720
Ohh Draw A Box, I get it. I’ll tab the Peter Hans dynamic sketching instead, I love dynamic drawing. Thank you!

>>5044724
Sorry sloppy paint job but just to convey the point across: your head is too small I think.

>>5044737
Oh now I'm laughing it's horrible.
Anyway yeah try to get that head bigger lol.

>>5044619
Marc Brunet just released a video on simplified folds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdCcB8SXudo

>>5044737
>>5044739
Really? I went for the princess blade proprtion.

>>5044747
*Code of Princess

>>5044728
dont be a pussy

feel i need to work on proportions when doing these from imagination

>>5044754
God this looks so much better what I did.
Is this just loomis? Or me not knowing how to do eyes

>>5044737
>>5044739
This is why /beg/s should not give crit.

>>5044770
Prove the head isn't too small or gtfo.

>>5044724
The other anon's edit made me appreciate how well you got the gesture of reaching your arm out to let a butterfly rest on it. It's more complicated than I would hve thought.

>>5044368
Gonna make it
>>5044478
Never gonna make it

>>5044763
give me your discord ill explain in vc if you want

>>5044787
If it wasnt 3am and I wasnt about go to bed I'd be fine with that, lol. Can you do a tl;dr text summary? Or try again next morning

I'm trying to do gesture drawing but i dont think i get it at all. I'm reading the Michael hampton book but I'm not sure.. it still feels like I'm trying to draw the model rather than the gesture and I guess I dont know the difference. can someone who does tell me where I'm fucking up please?

>>5044802
TLDR; U'r bAd and it has nothing to do with loomie toonies

Long story: Give Discord and I'll scream at you for 30 minutes tomorrow

>>5044804
I am not sure at all my dudes (these are 120s)

I’ve been busy with Christmas stuff and haven’t been able to draw as much so I just doodles these with no real reference or anything just to have drawn something today

>>5044804
bro your drawings look good dont worry. you *are* getting the gesture, dont let the fact that you *also* are getting some concrete forms in trick you. whatever you practiced to get to this point was good (enough) just keep doing it. i dont know your daily routine but i would suggest you stop focusing on gestures and switch to doing one or two gesture sessions as a warm-up for the day.

you seem to understand the subject that is gestures.

in case you do want to keep focusing on gestures, try to "force" them by drawing the figure two or three times, and when you are sick of the actual forms / anatomy then do the gesture and maybe strip it of more stuff that is "not gesture". like saying one word multiple times until it feels meaningless.

>>5044810
cranialdamage#4543
I'll msg you some time tomorrow when I'm ready

can i get some constructive criticism for my one-minute gesture drawings, please?

>>5044822

>>5044819
>whatever you practiced to get to this point was good (enough) just keep doing it. i dont know your daily routine but i would suggest you stop focusing on gestures and switch to doing one or two gesture sessions as a warm-up for the day.
Today is the first time I've tried it. I just picked up Michael Hamptons book but before this I think I overpracticed draw a box. Really, any advice at all I'd be grateful for. Before this I have only been doing draw a box. About a month ago I got through textures, then took a break for work. I think what I'm not getting is sometimes it feels like the lines I am drawing are arbitrary or guesses. Should I stop using a pen? What do people dk after gestures? The book goes into detail on the head next, it looks like.

>>5044699
Thanks for the crit bud. I did want the cup to stand out which is why I made it real bright but I forgot that by making it stand out, its problems are much more prominent. I'll try and fix it later.

is light correct?

>>5044739
>>5044770
>>5044772
OP here. Did you skip Loomis?

>>5044909
If you like it that way then go for it and discard my opinion. I still think there's an issue with it or that it could be improved.
PS: suck a dick.

how should i go about trying to mimick this style: do i study the artists or would it be better to just study from actual korean people? sorry if this belongs in the stupid question thread.

alright boys here's a gif to settle this for good )))

>>5044923
just drAW

>>5044842
ears go down because head and whatever you omg i you know what i mean anyway ears go do

>>5044923
There's nothing to study, just learn how to draw people and learn how to render

>>5044937
to learn how to draw koreans, wouldn't i have to study them tho.

>>5044917
>>5044926
Young'un

>>5044868
understanding light and geometry and perspective on this level might be useful for designing 3d software but if you want to make those sweet coom bucks you are better off lighting and shading a ball. then squishing the ball and light that. then copy a black and white photo of some nice tits. then take a photo and copy it exactly, then simplified, then imagine how it would look if cel shaded. then do the reverse. bring your practice closer to what you will actually be using it for

>>5044832
well like i said, it definitely looks like you know what you are doing. give yourself time and dont worry too much about getting gestures nailed now, instead make them a recurring routine until you yourself decide to stop or take a break.
as for what to do with them, try drawing something from reference but not by copying it, but by "recreating" it.
for example take some lewd cosplayer of your waifu, do one or two or maybe 6 gestures of the same photo
chose the best one or lay all gestures over each other
start filling in the anatomy / 3d forms into the gesture (maybe on a second layer ontop)
decide which lines to keep, which to forget about (maybe you put cross contours on your 3d forms etc) and "ink" the drawing. although dont worry about making the lines clean, your gesture and forms need to be confident for your drawing to look good

if you havent done much so far, the 3d forms to be placed into the gesture might be your next big step. take organic but easy subjects (bugs, animals, fat people) and practice deconstructing them into simple forms (a tip, try gesture and anatomy of animals in action, they are easier to grasp when you are still learning. even normies "get" what gesture is if you point at a photo of a running horse)

>>5044936
?

>>5044923
do both
do a 1 hour portrait from real reference each day
take a picture of that artist, erase a small chunk and repaint it to be as close to the original as possible for 1 hour
take on old picture of yours and redo it (quickly, trace/reuse your own sketch) and pretend you are that artist, make it look 1% closer to what it would look like if you *were* that artist. next day 2% etc
you are studying a subject and a style(/specific rendering) simultaneously, keep it all tight and close so your practice gives you feedback on what you are doing right and wrong.

>>5043980
>>5044134
Okay here's where she stands now. On the top we have the original and the quick edit.

Bottom left is the 'complete' edit and anothing showing some quick contour lines.

I agree that it looks much better but I also feel like I've lost sense of some of the form of the muscles in the arms. Also the feathering in/hatchin I'm not sure about. Maybe if they're changed from black to a skin tone after I lay down some flats. I'll fiddle with it.

Still though, thanks guys.

>>5044368
>>5044724
Wow man this is really cool. Glad my character design could inspire it!

Do you post anywhere?

>>5045037
I shitpost on /ic/,/b/,/v/,/vp/,and /pol/. I usually draw some gross stuff and post on random threads just to blind some random anons. I too like me some buff woman.

>>5045020
nigger

>>5045016
thank you anon that is all very helpful

Having some fun drawing from imagination, trying to be more loose

WHY ARE EYELASHES SO HARD TO DRAW IT'S JUST A FUCKING CURVED LINE AHHHHHHHHHHH

>>5045071
>Having some fun drawing from imagination
>having fun
Ngmi

>>5045071
I kneel

>>5045088
i know you're joking, but it's pretty sad that some people from here actually think that.

>>5044868

>>5044478
>these are the people critiquing your work
never taking advice from here seriously ever again.

>>5044868

if you use an uncomfortable chair, do the drawing skill suffer?

How do I check my gesture drawings for errors? All I can do is look at it and go "Yeah, that looks about right"

>>5045124
i cant put my finger on it but these sketches make me feel like you are in some way years ahead of me in terms of pure drawing - but in some unique way that differs from most of the people i would consider better than me,
would you tell me how you practice? or how much you draw on average? is there a specific exercise or book that influenced you a lot?

>>5045132
depends on what you mean by error. doing a gesture and looking at it to correct it is pointless. instead of wasting time you could be doing 10 more.
for your gestures as a whole just be mindful of what you are doing, remember to not get lost in details, look at it from a distance and judge if the movement / action / weight distribution looks right and clear at first glance. compare with the reference. does it "feel" as if both convey the same message? is there something you feel that is lacking in your gesture? is there something unnecessary?

>>5045133
I'm still beg, so don't know if I'm qualified to answer this. have been in something of a comfort zone studying anatomy so I'm shit at colour + clothing, my morning routine is drawing + coffee + lazy youtube videos for some hour, that way I'm free doing other things without feeling guilty. you can dedicate this time to learning about a specific limb.
earlier I have used the site quickposes, and tried to sort of make the limbs into boxes. when you draw from imagination and know where they go then you can change perspective and it becomes a fun puzzle.

Started drawing for the first time. Most of this is just random stuff, some based off of references that you can probably spot. 1/3

2/3

3/3
I know it's not great, just wanted to show off a couple days progress.
I want to turn to bodies, possibly gesture. I'm not reading or studying anything, just going for it mainly.

>>5045168
>>5045171
>>5045172
I kneel to the Uber/beg/ and pledge my allegiance to the king of /beg/s

>>5045140
>doing a gesture and looking at it to correct it is pointless. instead of wasting time you could be doing 10 more.
Yeah, I ment to look for errors to hopefully make the next 10 gestures better.
Thanks for the advice, I'll keep it in mind.

>>5045176
this is nowhere near the worst /beg/ has to offer, he's just your run of the mill guy who just started drawing

what's a good time to start off gesture drawing training? 30 seconds? a minute?

>>5045297
I would recommend starting with a longer time and then decreasing it as you get better

>>5045307
so 1 minute? or should i make it even longer and go for 2 minutes

>>5045308
I generally do 1,5min, I suggest you try different times and see what you are comfy with

>>5045313
alright then, thx

>>5044057
https://b-ok.cc/book/4999205/c51a4d

Hello, I started the book "keys to drawing" four days ago and right now i'm at chapter 3 where the author explain how to "measure" proportions with your pencil by holding it before your eyes. I might sound dumb to you but I don't understand how it works to "translate" it to my paper if it makes sense? Do I just need to practice "measuring" proportion and eventually I'll get it? Thank you

>>5045330
here is a video explaining that technique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzDGO0LssEM

WHY IS IT SO HARD TO DRAW FROM MEMORY/IMAGINATION, FUCK YOU, BRAIN. YOU CAN'T SEE SHIT WITHOUT EYES!!!!!!!!!! DIE MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>5045332
oh thank you man, cheers

How do i render a dick

>>5045333
BUILD UP THAT VISUAL LIBRABY BOY. HOW CAN YOU ASK YOUR BRAIN TO SEE WHEN YOU HAVEN"T SEEN SHIT

>>5045335
i'll tell you if you put the dick on the girl and turn it into a boy

>>5043706
Ive been here for 2 days , wtf does "beg" "crabs" and all the other slang mean on this board?

>>5045335
Darjeeling?

>>5045347
beg mean beginner and crabs is for the saying crabs in the bucket

Was doing some 1 minute thumbnails sketches form imagination and thought this looked cool so I'd do it for real
I don't think I've ever chickenscratched so bad in my life, I just gave up halfway through, can't get it to look quite right, maybe I'll redo it tomorrow
Damn

>>5045332
>embeds no longer get around age restrictions
What fresh hell is this?

also
>a measurement vid is age restricted

I have a problem with drawing things at the top of my head, I have to be looking at a reference...any advice?

>>5045364
im guessing nude figures, but yea it was strange that it was age restricted

>>5045366
there is nothing wrong with looking at references that is how you build up your mental references. The way to get better is to draw more, try drawing a figure in a simple pose from imaginations like sitting on a chair. Then move up to more complex poses. While doing this also study your mistake by comparing it to a real world reference.

>>5045364
yeah I had to use nsfw youtube site cause I don't have a google acc lol.

>>5045362
You’re lacking too much shit to try to do that. just do basic shit and studies for a while gradually shift to what you want step by step.

>>5045372
Thanks anon, that actually makes me feel lots better

>>5045050
This is important

I need to know

Are you polish?

Because I think you may be polish

Since I saw the pic you drew

I have believed that you are polish

>>5045342
But thats gay anon
>>5045348
Yes. I love GuP.

Some sketches

>>5045469
Shotacon fujo vibes

>>5044350
I love it. Blog?

Tried to do some figure drawing, it’s a bit chicken scratchy and the shading is pretty bad.
No idea what the model was doing with his dick though.

>>5045431
Is there a meme about polish artists that Im unaware of

>>5045673
>>5045673
>Is there a meme about polish artists that Im unaware of

haha no nothing like that.

I had discussed the character design with a friend, who is polish, and we talked about her having a massive, braided, pony tail rather than pig-tails.

>>5044741
Surprisingly useful and straightforward advice, but why do people have to act like this when they make videos?

>>5043949
>>5044202

thank you kind anon. My drawing skills are still /beg/ so gonna practice that more. Today I made a timed value portrait. I can already see where things should be darker/lighter. I also fucked up the center line on the head now everything else is fucked up.

Babbies first Igor.Felt tough.
New to drawing and tablet.

Konnichiafternoon

>>5045982
looks good, but legs are too short unless you're going for more of a dwarf character

>>5043824
>>5043831
>>5044202
Thanks, I'll try to draw a finished picture, I'm sure I'll just end up polishing a turd but whatever, it's worth giving it a shot.

>>5046001
Fair
I’ll just lengthen the lower legs a bit since I think that’s what’s short

>>5043706
Portrait of gf fod anniversary, pretty much done just banner left.
What you guys think? My first ever oil portrait.

>>5046072
oof anon

>>5046072
im not sure if she will be happy with the effort or cringe at how bad it is but either way good luck

>>5046072
tell your gf that her forehead is too short lel

>>5046072
*inhales*

>>5046072
my waifu is cuter

>>5046072
AAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA YOUR GF IS A NIGGER LMAO

all i can say is that most of this board are overlooking the fundamentals...

Depth comes from construction and perspective and overlapping things to give the illusion of 3d space.

What could help me study this? Worried my art comes off as flat

>>5045469
timmy turner

>>5046072
is she a negress with blonde hair?

I started drawing yesterday. I have no basic knowledge about drawing. How can I improve?

>>5046091
>>5046087
>>5046085
You will never be...a gf.
>>5046081
>>5046079
Hmm whats bad about it? People i showed it to said it looks great, even the girl working at the framing shop kept looking at it and smiling dearly saying its amazing
>>5046084
I think its the angle, had to lower the hairline cause it looked to big irl

>>5046163
>Hmm whats bad about it? People i showed it to said it looks great,

i mean fuck it, if normies are impressed then your girlfriend will be happy which is all that matter

>>5046104
So stop looking in the beginner thread lmao

>>5046160
>>5046160
>How can I improve?
dodson's keys to drawing > huston's figure drawing for artists > scott robertson's how to draw, all books are in the artbook thread

do all the exercises and copy without tracing as much as you can

>>5046157
No, the first pic has saturation and contrast way up i guess. Her skin is more of a grayish pale with a bit of orange

>>5046175
Don't ever let anons take you down, your art is great, your gf will love receiving it as a birthday gift so don't worry

>>5046180
snib snab

>>5046180
Thanks anon, i dont know why but i see it in /beg/ often there are people who put down and gaslight everyone, especially people who are even more talented than me, so many good works and these assholes say its shit just to fuck with people. Ruins the general and board, such lonely miserable fux.

Is this what they mean when they say composition and perspective? I tried to sketch a concept out that I want to make on bigger paper. Any suggestions help. I know the construction is bad and anatomy is bad, that's why I'm here.

>tfw i'm starting to find more disney like styles more appealing than anime/jap ones
b-bros...

>>5045379
Not that anon but what would you suggest practicing before trying what they did? Just shapes or something?

>>5046199
anon you get mostly two types of reaction here, you get criticized and/or made fun of. since you are being made fun of you should understand that your painting is fine. dont read too much into it

bashing your skill and your real gf at the same time is more entertaining than just posting "neat" or not posting anything at all

Backgrounds hard
Everything hard

>>5046265
She looks like a dwarf, unless thats what you want. If thats the case: Based.

>>5046259
>bashing your skill and your real gf at the same time is more entertaining than just posting "neat" or not posting anything at all
so this is how crabs think

The drawing tablet thread isn’t giving me any clear answer. What’s a good beginner tablet that’s medium sized and doesn’t have a screen? I was told the Intuos Pro m was good here, but they said it sucked. I’m still wary of random Chinese brands so I’m hesitant on buying those.

>>5046291
gonna be real with you bro, there's horror stories for every drawing tablet. just flip a coin and pick your poison

>>5046265
legs too small

>>5046291
Wacom intuos is good aside from the surface eating nibs
Just buy anything for less than 100 dollars with decent reviews and get to work
The fact that the drawing tablet thread is almost as busy as the beginner artwork thread shows their autism

>>5046226
what kind of pose and perspective are you trying to achieve? Are we the viewer suppose to be looking up or are we on eye level with the queen? This is the kind of questions you are asking yourself during the planning phase of your drawing. As for the anatomy it is off, I don't know if you are playing are with the perspective that makes it off or you just made a mistake. The arms and legs looks a little long and the way she is sitting is a little stiff.

>>5046259
True but that kinda takes away from the point of a /beg/ thread if people rarely get constructive criticism. Wanted to post on /trad/ but brian cumfarti seems to have stopped making them :'(

>>5046281
i dont think you understood what i tried to say

>>5046291
all tablets are made in china from the same parts. wacom is a big mover in that industry and helps getting new parts designed and manufactured. wacom (just like everyone else) then has the parts assembled and branded to be sold as their product. after a while those parts are being sold to everyone and the "cheap chinese ripoffs" get to assemble the same parts and brand it as their own, slap a funky driver ontop and done.

if you dont want "chinese" you are stuck with wacom, just go to their store and buy whatever. if you want to be smart about it you can get virtually the same thing as a $300 wacom device for $100. i recommend xp-pen deco 01

in any case, do your own research

>>5046291
Im using an XP-PEN Deco 01 V2 that cost me 80 monopoly dollars and its served me pretty well.

Does her neck/back look broken?

>>5046314
i'm not calling you a crab

>>5046347
try the pose yourself

>>5046367
can i use your lap then, big boy

>>5046347

>>5046307
Thanks for the feedback. Perspective was supposed to be eye level with her hands/heads of the subjects. I agree she's stiff too. I'll try again on bigger paper and plan that perspective and post again.

>>5046382
her torso isnt contorting tho, shes supposed to be like huffing her chest

Which courses are you guys going through

>>5046482
always loomis

>>5046482
doing some figure work from line of action and reading Hogarth's dynamic figure drawing

>>5046347
her neck/back doesn't look broken, her chest and stomach looks comically large
tilt her head back if you want it to look like she is puffing out her chest, make her chest smaller. also lower her left arm down a bit and shift the bikini to the right

>>5044810
Thanks again for the help early. I fixed a bunch of stuff with your critique. Still struggled with the bandage on her boobs, but a lot of stuff looks a lot way. Gonna keep trying hard, and clean up the lines also and touch ups. God bless

>>5046549
Also I gotta study up art styles for ways to do noses and mouths better

So I'm wanting to start, any tips on calming down when things don't come out right so you can just grind it out? Failure is unreasonably infuriating to me, and I have the presence of mind to admit it, but I don't have any concrete techniques for calming down and going on. What do you guys do? Would prefer not to self-medicate.

>>5046581
Talk less practice more

>>5046510
that neck is def broken

>>5046581
Getting frustrated is all part of the learning process, what I find best for myself is to stop drawing for a couple of hours or even sleep it off and come back refreshed. Also slow down when drawing help me focus on my mistakes.

>>5046581
start getting frustrated by how much / how little progress you are making. then making mistakes and bad pictures stop bothering you and instead the speed at which you make gains becomes your motivation. you know when you have reached this change of mentality when
>this 13yo jap loli draws better than you
bait threads start to bother you

you welcome

feedback?

Is smoothing cheating?

>>5046653
Cheating what
Is this yours >>5046651 ? Is that what the blurry affect is?

>>5046657
No Im not >>5046651, just curious if using mouse smoothing when drawing lines is cheating. Using a tool to help make your lines cleaner instead of getting gud at drawing lines

>>5046662
Stabilizers and anti aliasing is perfectly fine, just dont crank it high where it gets in the way of drawing naturally

>>5046662
i mean cheating what? no rules only tools anon, is using a ruler cheating?

for an actual answer just dont have it crazy, but yeah have a slight 10% sure whatever

>>5046295
I guess the Intuos Pro Paper M would be fine.

>>5046592
This seems like good advice. I'll do my best to focus more on the "getting back to it" after stopping, it's been a major problem. Will also slow down while drawing, I think that's actually really good. Taking a step back and contemplating what you're doing wrong and what you can do to fix it is ridiculously important in anything creative, not sure why I wasn't applying it here.

>>5046347
Erase the line going to the right from her middle spine line, at least reduce it

new thread when

>>5046858
This is the last beg thread
(Probably when it’s near page 9 or so)

>>5046973
Ah okay, Ill probably wait till the next thread to post then

>>5046265
The pose is a bit too stiff.
The composition makes things look cramped.
Her legs are too short.
The lighting is nice though. :)
I like the background.
good luck.

>>5047046
Noted!
I should’ve shrunk her more and then lengthen the limbs. I got tunnel vision worrying about both her gesture and the background

Thoughts?
Just started it and i have to go to sleep now so i cant finish it now.

>>5046265
>this is a beginner
should i give up

>>5047125
no

>>5047125
no

>>5047125
seeing how your judgement of its quality and required skill is clouded by beautiful colors and muh anime - yes you should give up. you suffer from what we GMIs call "terminal normie taste". there is no cure sadly.

>>5047169
Picasso jerked off little boys and played with his own shit

>>5047125
no don't do that no please don't even say that noooo

>>5047169
>beautiful colors
Wow thanks anon but I think my colors are far from that

>>5047170
what?

>>5047177
your colors are good, dont be mistaken. you just went into color too soon while you should still be practicing drawing, gesture and form etc

i am messily sketching something out and i’m not sure where to take it. any advice?

>drawing makes me want to tear my hair out
>rendering is fun and calming
I just end up spending all day colouring in shitty low effort sketches I had hanging around where the forms were all fucked up and then they come out like shit.
Maybe I should change hobbies to adult colouring books.

>>5046347
Hope this helps anon

>>5047184
Sorry I just REALLY hate Picasso and have an autistic tick when I hear his name.

new thread

>>5047282
>>5047282
>>5047282

>>5047231
lmao gross

>>5047231
based

>>5047135
>>5047140
>>5047175
cute