/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Once again first reply, I just broke this thread's hymen. Anyone else who posts after me is getting my sloppy seconds, my leftovers.

Just remember that the first reply is the most special reply and you'll never experience this thread the way I did and this thread will never feel the way it felt about me about you.

It's over , you might as well just go post on reddit and talk about how much of a "man" you are for replying on a thread that I pump and dumped. Have fun with my scraps, cucks

The dick and balls are there because I couldn’t think of what they should be looking at. Also I got frustrated because the perspective is all fucked.

Six from little nightmares

>>5032684
so, you gonna draw her suckin' it or what?

How's my gesture?

>>5032666
>cursed trips
>>5032706
Imo too detailed for a gesture, but keep it up
Posting my shit with wee bit of explanation
>>5032687

>>5032704

>>5032711
Plus you can't really put your head on the tablet, because it will respond to the touch of your palm. So I am forced to hold my hand straight up in the mid-air and this is starting to hurt.

>>5032719
*hand

What's the best way to start rendering?

I know there are a lot of problems regarding perspective and anatomy and I feel like I'm polishing a turd but I want to start pracitizing rendering.

I tried the overlay with basic skin tones + a multiply with the main color but the problem is the skin is blue so the colors do not neutralize as expected. Should I lineart?

>>5032752
why is Will Smith turning into a frog

>>5032706
Really nice, anon. I think you might want to pay special attention to legs though.

how do i learn how to rotate objects in 3D space

i am doing drawabox and trying to rotate boxes but desu my boxes always look like shit and the lines don't lead back to the vanishing points correctly. with each box i try to understand what i'm doing wrong, but i can't wrap my head around this. i heard some story about a french guy that just made a bunch of students in his art class draw a pile of boxes that he rearranged all day without telling them the rules of perspective or anything, so this tells me there must be some intuitive thing that happens as you keep drawing. i don't get it.

Did someone say drawabox

>>5032787
n-no...

>>5032783
grab a box from your pantry and look at it and rotate it and draw it.

I try cross hatvhing for first time teehee

>>5032802
i have done that, with various amazon boxes and a soap box. it's a question of time, i've been at it a few weeks and am still shit. my question ultimately amounts to asking for any book or link or anything about this.

>>5032783
>>5032806
py unironically, so we can see what we're dealing with

>>5032813
pyw*

>>5032820
Wish I was at this level

>>5032787
Gonna do lesson one today.

>>5032806
>a few weeks
okay, keep at it. spinning boxes freehand takes a long time.

>>5032704
If I did that I’d go to heck. That character is only 15 years old!

>>5032813

>>5032858
i remember doing these for math in highschool

Start with one point perspective
Draw a simple box
Draw a sequence of boxes behind it
Draw an intrusion / extrusion on it
Move to more complex geometric shapes
Do all of these above on and below the horizon line
Rinse and repeat for 2 and 3 point perspective

>>5032867
meant for >>5032858

>>5032867
that is literally what drawabox is

i know what the perspective points are but idk i can't internalize it. maybe i just need to try more.

funnily enough though, drawabox kinda fails at this because it doesn't explain the horizon line or picture plane (at least not before the 250 box meme challenge) so I spent the first few pages not understanding that lines parallel to the picture plane do not converge.

https://imgur.com/a/lm7gB4g

Gib critiq and to do next.
I was going through Vilppu's book and videos but when he started doing anatomy I put that on hold and switched to Hampton and it helped me a lot. (I think)

I'm almost done with Hampton's book/ videos and plan on finishing Vilppu's stuff after. What should I do next? I'm thinking Loomis maybe?

>>5032896
they don't look good bro... are you copying?

>>5032881
when I did it, it had a explanation on those.

whats a good resource for practising hands

>>5032820
You again, assguy?
>do you draw some other things besides bubblebutt chick in ripped bodysuit?

>>5032924
Hands.
>useful for reference
>useful for doing the drawing

I keep a small mirror on my desk for this purpose.

>>5032924
Burne Hogarth - drawing dynamic hands
https://1lib.eu/book/579578/c1bf40
>draw a boxxxxxx

>>5032927
don't have the desk space but thanks

>>5032928
thanks for this my dude

Sketched before I slept

how much time should I spend a day grinding / drawing

>>5032959

>>5032913
>are you copying?
No. I'm trying to construct / practice anatomy.

>>5032896
looks like you need to focus on proportions, some of your figure is off unless you are doing a cartoon drawing. You should do Vipplus nma videos and do some timed gestures videos.

STARTING WITH DRAW A BOX HOW LONG UNTIL I AN GOOD ARTIST AND MAKE MONEY

>>5033029
couple of years if youre serious about making money.

I drew a meme for /v/

>>5033037
WHAT ABOUT IF I FOCUS ON PORNOGRAPHY BUT THE BOX THING SEEMS WIRED

I'm about halfway through proko's figure drawing class! posting some doodles

>>5033043
you still need to understand how to draw people if you want to do adult drawings

>>5031955

>>5033038
GOD DAMN IT I FUCKING TOLD YOU TO REDRAW THE POSE WITH THE INNER FIRE OF A KUNG FU MASTER HUNG UPON YOUR HEART. AND YET YOU CONTINUE TO DRAW AS IF YOU WISH ONLY TO BRING DISGRACE TO YOUR FAMILY. HOW DARE YOU BRING THE SACRED NATURE OF MARTIAL ARTS TO THE LEVEL OF THIS TRITE WEAK ARMED SMALL CHILD THAT THROWS EXPLOSIVES AND HAS YET TO BE NERFED.

>>5033068
I don't know how to respond

>>5033038
Ignore the other guy
You did well for a beginner anon

What do I even draw
I hate drawing
Gonna kill myself soon

>>5033092
draw this picture in any way you want

I can't draw an ellipse...

>>5033106
Think of a circle then squish it.

>>5033113
I can't draw a circle...

>>5033118
think of a square with no sides

>>5033118
Think of an ellipse then squish it.

>>5033082
YOU SAY "s-sorry s-senpai, I-I'll g-go w-watch some v-videos of k-karate" AND THEN YOU GO WATCH SOME PEOPLE IN MOTION FUCKING FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND YOU PAUSE IT AND YOU SAY "WOW THIS IS COOL, LOOK AT THE MOTION OF THE BODY IN THIS FRAME" AND THEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR LITTLE FLABBY ARMED GIRL TRYING TO SQUEEZE BETWEEN PEOPLE TO GET TO HER LOCKER AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE BAD ASS KUNG FU PEOPLE AND YOU SAY, BOY I WANNA KICK SOME ASS TODAY, AND YOU HYPE YOURSELF UP AND YOU DRAW IT AGAIN, NOW HAVING BEEN INTENTIONAL IN YOUR CONSUMPTION OF MARTIAL ARTS GOD FUCKING DAMN IT NOW GO FUCKING DO IT, HOW FUCKING EXPLICIT DO I HAVE TO BE WITH YOU.

>>5033118
the ability to draw a perfect circle is the mark of an artist of the utmost skill. So now you know what you’re building towards. Master the circle and everything beyond that won’t even need to be addressed.

>>5033118

>>5033092
titties

>complete beg
>first exercise, draw a self portrait
>finish mine
>its shit
>burst into laughter every time I look at it
did any of you anons have a similar experience?

>>5033156
Yes

>>5033127
pyc

>>5032701
Soul

Did a drawing

>>5033204
You have 2 right hands?

Cute boi

>>5033208

>>5033210
Without the accidental line on his chest

>>5032701
How is it that a drawing could be this deeply flawed fundementally but still endearing and expressive at the same time

>>5033223
Literally "soul"

Picasso's Igor Stravinsky

I got bored tired and sad this far in

I'm not even that new I just can never actually get myself to study/improve, I just want to mindlessly doodle essentially abstract shapes whenever i draw

be nice ;_;

What do you guys think of my OC? I call it "Mabora's Mask"

>>5033236
Are you a nigger?

>>5033243
No, I am dancer

>>5033233
Did you try drawing him upside down?

>>5033223
Fundies and realism are simply tools to express one's self or something. At a certain point, specific levels of skill can express certain things in certain ways. You don't have to be perfect to communicate something.

>>5033253
Yeah that was done upside down, probably should have said

is drawing from reference w/ 3x3 grid cheating

>>5033261
no rules only tools

>>5033156
Lmao imagine not being able to draw yourself.
This is the first self portrait I ever drew and it's honestly my spitting image.

>>5033233
finish the damn drawing

>>5033273
I’m not surprised deformed trolls with practically merged eyeballs browse here

>>5033277
it's too disheartening when you're trying to follow the reference but lines are overlapping when they shouldn't be and everything is so off, i'll give it another go tomorrow and i'll try to focus better

>>5033285
kek

>>5032865
Wait, is this also dream by the ass guy?

Been 1.5 hour since I got home from work, already ate, shitted and watered the plants, but still don't feel like sitting on the computer and practicing drawing on my tablet.
Should I
A) meditate
B) have a cold shower
C) both
D) neither
And then get to drawing

>>5033358
I prefer warm showers myself

>>5033358
Draw traditional sitting on your living room couch

>>5033365
Don't have the means

>>5033358
C easy answer, get mentally prepped

>>5033371
I'm leaning towards d)

>>5033386
i mean sure dont force it, just draw tomorrow dw about it

>>5033367
Sit on the floor with wood, a piece of paper and a pencil

Daily grind.

>>5033420
nice sketches, your proportions are off during those 5 minutes gestures

>>5033420
Nice job. I still have to do my quick sketches today

>>5033387
>>5033389
Skipping a day is rarely good. Im on the pc and will start drawing soon... As soon as I finish reading these 30 4chan threads and watching my xvideos updates

>>5032820
>>5032865
Assman? Nice.......

>>5033453
>Skipping a day is rarely good
?????

everyone needs a break anon its bad to just grind and take no time, youll just burn out or hate it otherwise, id say a day off a week is good

Imagine literally taking a whole break from drawing jesus christ

cone

>>5032865
I don't understand y u post? Like WTF is yur deal?

>>5032954
manly hands!

>>5032965
I mean, the original joke is that his workout routine is pretty easy. it is the contrast that make it funny

04/10 - not a good use of the format

>>5033479
Nooo aaaa is that critique NOOOO

>>5032820
>>5032865
I see improvements. Nice job. However, don't let one random crab comment get over your head.

I usually only do a rough sketch of the form before I draw clothes but I'm really struggling with this guy's pose. Especially with trying to draw 'forward motion' where the leg is being moved towards the viewer.

>>5033489
practice foreshortening with cylinders and boxes as stand ins for limbs

>>5033457
I literally just started off and this is my second day

>>5033489
I think trying to make a front pose walking forward is a difficult feat in itself, but thats just my opinion as a /beg/ also shouldn't the suitcase be beside him?

I literally cant draw Loomis head or poses anymore what the fuck? Am I being filtered? I just cant get anything right.

Just watched Vilppu's course, I can't do gesture at all, I just don't get it, this is horrible, how to get this or should I quit gesture right now?

>>5033420
not /beg/

>>5033525
You don’t learn things by quitting

>>5033525
lmao keep going
alternate between construction and gesture

I need to work on faces and hands, not to mention forshortening and perspective. Will fix the composition up later in CSP.

Does the head on his shoulder look like a bear? I need to look up some more references for animal heads and stylised fur. It was a new experience.

Any opinions on the overall design of these two characters? For the chick I'm tossing between her current hairstyle and a massive braid. Need to learn how to make the guy look older. Not sure if I want his pants to be regular or fancy like 15th century german/swiss mercenaries.

>>5032954
Hands and legs reduce the coomability of the pic.

>>5032677
Key to Drawing 1B - Hand

>>5033518
you might need a break, being burnt out can have that effect on a person.

>>5033509
does this look better without the side planes

>>5033233
>>5033253
we igorposting

>>5033518
I am lost, I dont know if I need to do Loomis figures or cylinder man or what but I can not get my figures right.
>>5033559
Not sure how a break can help if I always try to procrasinate. I just feel like I cant decide to which times of building blocks I should stick with and what works. One big part is getting a angle of the figure wrong, and the proportions of the limbs, to waist, to the size of the head. I feel like I am also drawing too small?
Compare what I drew to what I wanted to draw. I just wanted to really get the figure right but I felt stuck on cylinderman and that was not working, so I switched to loomis man and that was only hardly any better.
Only thing I did better was being concious of my lines and trying to get longer strokes, confident strokes on them. https://files.catbox.moe/j56su5.jpg

>>5033560
usually you shade those side planes so it might look strange if you are just sketching

>>5033560 >>5033509
keep the lines where the cheeks should be to accent the mouth shape

>>5033544
I think the girl's right leg is shorter than the left one.

>>5033566
I personally use the bean method thought by vilppu. I find it is easy to do gesture and poses with

>>5033580
Is there a video where he goes on the basics of this?

>>5033581
I think it is in his book, drawing manual. There is also the video course that goes with that book.

>>5033560
>>5033509
You do nothing but 10 minutes and you're better than me, I should be better, I should be better than you and your head drawings. What courses have you done? What gives you the right?

I lost all soul :( how do blend?

Tried to draw Jean Luc Picard. Loomis method doesn't talk about shading or lighting at all.

>>5032719
You know you can disable touch, right?

>>5033575
Yeah her hip was meant to be pretty heavily tilted and her left leg was supposed to be placed a bit more forward.

After adding clothing to the figure this became hard to discern.

I think my failure at understand perspective is also a contributing factor.

>>5033633
good effort, looks like you slanted his face from his nose downwards. Also his lips are too low unless he is pouting.

>>5032844
"Only"?

>>5032820
Not beg, go get your coombucks

>>5033124
Based abusive angry teacher

>>5033633

>>5033640
How do I fix it? I'll post an updated version after work.

>>5033566
Use refs and draw a lot is all I have to say.
What ever you decide to do, just don't ever stop drawing. I stopped drawing for a year working and lost most of my gains.
Ref:https://www.youworkforthem.com/photo/116805/girl-hiking-a-mountain

>>5033660
post the ref you used. the way I try to do faces is start with the nose and place it at angle matching the ref and than mouth and eyes.

how do i get gud at horizontal symmetry?

>>5033493
Much appreciated the tip, I didn't even know where to look first.

>>5033499
Honestly I might move it to the side. I was going for a swaying motion but I'm not sure if it looks right, I just can't 'feel the form'.

>>5033677
I still have trouble with this problem as well, the only thing I do make construction lines and try to relay on body part relations. Also drawing a lot of different poses helps a little.

I miss bars.

>>5033666
Did you just draw this now? I guess I will try to draw everyday. I haven't been able to keep it up but I'm gonna try with Proko's gestures drawings and see if that helps me form the building blocks.

>>5033560
YOu DONT DESERVE IT
10 MINUTES A DAY 30 MINUTES IS THAT A JOKE? I SHOULD BE BETTER AND DONT PITY ME EITHER
I just did two heads and yourr atill better, YOURE BETTER I SHOULD BE BETTER
I SHOULD BE BETTER I SHOULD BE
I HAVE TO BE I NEED TO BE I SHOULD BE BETTER

>>5033669
I used this drawing. I tried to copy the shading but Loomis doesn't discuss that. I think that's what makes the nose look tilted but I don't know.

>>5032701
I hate most of your drawings but I like this

>>5033712
>drawing a portrait of a portrait drawing
wew that's some big brain thinking

is this all i need to know? real /beg/ here

What is Loomis / Loomies

>>5033717
?

>>5033560
WH makes you better than me? What is it? NO MATTER WHAT I CAN NEVER DO PORTRAITS THE WAY YOU DO THRM
ITS OVER
I CANT TAKE THIS I JUST WANT TO HIDE AGAIN

>>5033724
A garbage outdated system of drawing. Euro centric and racist as well. Just ignore it.

>>5033729
oh so its a method. is it almost universal or something? i hear it everywhere on /ic/

how tf do you do lineart

>>5033712
it looks like this drawing uses watercolor technique so you are not going to get that look with just pencil. Comparing the two it does look like you drew with a lean look at the two mouths. The head shape is bigger with your drawing making the proportion off on the whole drawing. You got to slow down and map everything to not have a lean or outplace facial feature.

>>5033706
I drew it for you pal. We will make it ;)

>>5033719
that is just shading and texture techniques if that is all you want to learn that is a good place to start.

>>5033741
i want to get good enough to make minimum wage drawing

>>5033743
you want to work professional or you want to do commissions?

holy shit my art fucking blows. I’m straight up dog shit and every time I try to draw I see that the whole thing looks like something a third grader could come up with and I just want to quit.
/blog

>>5033747
whats the difference

>>5033729
what's hip now?

>>5033752
The head just needs improvement don't beat yourself up

>>5033757
hampton and vilppu

>>5033729
> Euro centric and racist
I think that you are just being sensitive and young of age. Wait another 10 years before posting.

>>5033753
commissions are usually for niche groups and professional work are for the general public.

>>5033763
still a meme though

>>5033764
so one is porn and the other isnt degenerate
well i think both. do i need to specialize on one when i`m learning to draw?

>>5033766
not quiet but most right, some professional artist get commissions from big companies like WoC with magic cards for example. If you want to make money quickly I think porn is the easiest and if you want to do that than you'll need to learn how to draw figures and such.

>>5033768
wdym draw figures

>>5033773
you want to learn how to draw people(figures) in different poses if you want to draw porn,

>>5033719
did i learn the lesson well?

>>5033777
got it thankssss

>>5033786
how long does it takes you to draw this and why don't you finish it.

>>5033728
your faces are just as good as mine

>>5033124
I actually tried it, was kinda fun

>>5033717
this is good practice retard, find out how better artists translate there idea of the form on the page, whyd you think people study from the masters works? cause they 'solved' the art piece

>>5033740
I feel like I am getting shapes now if I keep drawing. Here's my take. Still need to work a little on the proportions but it didn't help I referenced both an anime head and a human head. But I really do feel a little more confident on just the form on this one. Feels pretty close to the original one.

>>5033778
>>5033778
>>5033778
>>5033778

what the fuck is rendering, is it just coloring

>>5033677
I mean, people are not that symmetric to begin with

>>5033829
pretty much

>>5033729
what!? loomis is pro diversity!

>>5033790
OKAY YOU SON OF A BITCH NOW ITS TIME FOR THE NEXT STEP. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE FUCKING STICK MEN YOU DREW, IT LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING ACTION FIGURE YOU POSED IN WHAT A FIVE YEAR OLD THINKS THE POWER RANGERS WOULD POSE INTO. WHAT I FUCKING NEED YOU TO KNOW IS THAT A PERSON IS ALWAYS IN A STATE OF CONSTANT MOTION, EVEN ONE THAT IS STANDING STILL GOT THERE BY MOVING AND WILL SOON MOVE AFTER IT. YOUR FUCKING STICK MEN NEED TO DO THIS AS WELL. I WANT YOU TO GO WATCH A VIDEO OF GESTURE WHEN ITS DISCUSSING MOVEMENT. LIKE THIS ONE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa_2rL1K1mg OR MAYBE FUCKING THIS ASSHOLE https://youtu.be/74HR59yFZ7Y I WANT THESE STICK PEOPLE TO HAVE STRONG BENDING LINES GOING THROUGH THEM BEFORE THIER STICK PEOPLE PARTS ARE PUT ON TOP OF THEM LIKE A GOD DAMN PILE OF LEGOS, YOU DISCRASE OF AN ARTIST, YOU PUTRED FUCKING NEANDERTHOL. ONCE YOU WATCH A VIDEO ON HOW TO MAKE FUCKING BENDIE STICK PEOPLE, I WANT YOU TO GO TO quickposes.com AND DO SOME TWO MINUTE GESTURES, BUT ONLY DRAW THE LINES OF ACTION FOR NOW. I WANT YOU TO DO A WHOLE FUCKING HOUR OF THESE. THAT MEANS I WANT 30 GOD DAMN SWOOSHY STICK PEOPLE. THEN I WANT YOU TO FUCKING LOOK AT THEM. STARE AT WHAT YOU DID AND I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE A KUNG FU MASTER DOING THAT POSE AND FUCKING KICKING SOME ASS. THEN GO BACK TO THE ACTION POSES 1 BOOK THAT YOU TOOK YOUR ACTION FIGURES FROM AND IMAGINE THAT CUTE LITTLE JAP GIRL ACTUALLY IN MOTION. GOD DAMN.

>>5033793
yeah... except we're talking about a portrait of Patrick Stewart drawn by some random freelance commercial artist, not the Mona Lisa.

>>5033817
That's the spirit. 100 more and it will click for you.

>>5033843
Top left must have a warm pucci, can someone redline her body her furry suit?
>>5033856
How do I make sure I dont fall into a spiral of repeating the same mistakes? IE I draw and draw but dont get any better? What do I look for? I know one major problem I have is form and proportions too look and figure out.

I literally can't remember how to do fucking anything.
Like I'm completely impervious to practice.

>>5033861
If you are drawing digital and from reference, you can simply put the image on another layer and reduce the opacity and move it over the drawing portion to see where you over or undershot. If you aren't and you can only do it by eye, then get some tracing paper and make a bunch of line/notes on your distances from everything. If you took a photo of a drawn image, follow a tutorial for removing the white background of a line sketch in photoshop and then put it over the image. Otherwise, you need to train yourself to look at a reference, remember one piece of information (eg. position of eye relative to the nose) and then check against the original, doing this over and over for the whole piece. You could also rotate your art (or flip it if digital) to have a different view of it. You can also take a day and not look at it, then look at it later. Just like with editing a paper, sometimes some time between creation and revision can open your third eye.

>>5033861
Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVgLT-e3jXPDgeED0pD0BPq8kY1VAZAGa
The man goes straight to the point. He summed up every advices that I got on /ic/.

Better than last time.

>>5033729
Based loomis making libtards seethe

>>5033882
>loomis
discarded

>>5033902
i swear to god if i said sakimichan was racist the entire board would simp for her in an instant

Just finished watching these old Vilppu lectures
Any video lecture series by another teacher that goes over the same concepts and where to acquire it?

>>5033907
oh right the twitter blm thing

>>5033907
>if i said sakimichan was racist

I remember they tried to tag her as racist on twitter.

>>5033904
> Did not watch the video before commenting
> Impatient zoomer
He explains the pros and cons of different anatomy learning approaches including: Loomis, Bridgman, Hogarth etc.

Thoughts?

>>5033910
hampton is quite similar, chan archives anon

Is today shizo time?

>>5033950
nah, give it a couple hours

>>5033941
>>5033778
You dont have to multi-post it in the thread, it does look good though.

Venturing into inking with the gauche brushes. I feel like they complement my “style”? But does that just make them a crutch?

fuck im starting to get sleepy, ill finish this tomorrow. bye /beg/

>>5033958
thanks!!

>>5033960
does that brush need a tilt function from the tablet?

am i... feeling the booba forms?

>>5033979
you're feeling them too much, please stop

>>5033848
Line of action is basically a representation of the spine, just extended a bit more and curved to show flow, right?

>>5033966
Am I approaching this one the right way guys????

How do I find images of chubby/overweight nude women that are not porn for figure drawing practice? Already looked at art model tips and they have just one suitable model for my purposes

>>5034018
Go coom somewhere else

Every time someone tells you to take a break or it’s okay to go on hiatus, this is what they’re thinking

>>5034021
Shan’t

>>5034035
reminds me a classmate said something similar except in front of the class and teacher had to stop him
he also loved sakimichan

>>5033960
if tools could be crutches, we'd all be drawing with our own shit because holding a pencil is easier

>>5033677
get a mirror and look at your work through it every few line strokes

>>5034047
Sharn't

>>5034051
He probably admired sakimichans ability to drain money from simps

is it normal to hate drawing but enjoy painting?
i really just want to quit messing with lineshit, and start slapping blobs on the canvas. nothing is clicking and the lack of any ability to make progress from that is infuriating.

>>5033974
Probably? I’m using an iPad Pro. I think it has that.
>>5034058
Not sure what to make of that.

>>5033960
Complete the head and hair

Progress after about a month and a half. Above was posted oct 15. How am I doing? Is this good gains for that time?

:\

>>5034070
most likely, dude had nice drawing skills and had a soft friendly likeable exterior, but that speech, man, he wasn't even sarcastic
guys never stop drawing

>>5033124
incredibly based.

>>5034091
Really envious of you dude

>>5034080
So are you using procreate, csp or something else on ipad? I’ve tried using procreate a lot but there’s something about the brush engine that doesn’t let me be comfortable doing like art

Whoever found the image of the smoking girl last thread, I wish you would find more strangely beautiful women for us to draw.

>>5034084
Please explain. I thought I had? Is the head too short?
>>5034113
Yes. Procreate. I’m not skilled enough to know if I don’t like the engine. Although I often find myself using Tayasui to do sketches for some reason. I like the feel of the pencil in that more? But fucked if I could explain why.

Why is it so hard to stop chicken scratching?

>>5034149
draw larger, and do some slower figure drawings as well

>>5034115

>>5034151
Thanks. That’s fun. I had to erase that shit like 6 times before I settled. Time to sleep.

>>5034109
don't encourage his faggotry.

>>5034094
He’s gonna make it and swim in coomerbux

>>5034169
La ogrilia

>dec 1st
How do you feel knowing we’re in the last month of 2020, and you must now make your greatest artwork of the year
>>5034094
Skills and a likable exterior is all you need

So I've been trying to do art for like a month or so at this point, and this is one of my more recent things, it's a character me and a friend made. This shit is hard and annoying but I wanna be good so fuck it I want to be good at it

>>5034196
I've been merely pretending to draw badly for 11 months so now it'll be easy to draw my best work of the year

>>5034189
I just post 2 pages per thread and answer all the questions asked. Tell me what I did wrong and I will not post here anymore.

>>5034200
Right now you're still just drawing symbols. You need to learn the basics. Look up some basic figure drawing tutorials. Look for one that focuses on construction. Learn how to build a body out of basic forms and shapes, do an underdrawing. You won't recognize your art in a week, it will improve that quickly. It still won't b food, but you'll notice a night and day difference.

>>5032666

>>5034203
Fug yeah

>>5034189
Posting here is like a habit that helps me to be more productive. If my mediocre works made you feel that way then bye. Why so serious? ;)

>>5034196
>you must now make your greatest artwork of the year
Already happened famalamalam


>>5033544

>>5034170
Draw entire ellipses next time

>>5034192
W-what? Are you saying my drawing looked like a gorilla? ;-;

I keep grinding them balls, how do I do?

I wish there was a non circle jerky version of las/dad.
Just something to reinforce sticking with it for the new year.

>>5034265
what balls

>look at past months work
>realized ive mostly wasted yet another month
>december will just be the same

>>5034080
Nice vibe

>>5033960
I don't know why but she looks like a adult woman, is just me?

>>5034299
Brother. . .

>>5033966
that is some weird candy

>>5034035
>what is burnout?

>>5034299
worry about the present, the past and the future don't belong to you.

2 minute gestures. Any tips?

>>5034390
looks good, your proportions a little off in some of them. Try different times like a min or 5 min gestures to help with the proportions.

>>5034395
These any better? Some come out weird like the man on the right since the ref was from bird's eye perspective.

aoaoaoaoo

>>5033850
>>5033717

moving goalposts but ok

>>5034407
It looks good as well. The lower part of your figures looks off. The man has a buff torso and chicken legs, might be the angle as you said. The woman jumping backward has a weird looking pelvis and butt, also the legs a little long.

>>5034091
What are the circles for?

>>5033865
Brent Eviston.

With using overhand grip, are you supposed to switch to tripod for doing details, or do you do 100% of your lines in overhand? I find it hard to get thin neat lines with overhand even when I push down on the point in a number of ways. I know Keys to Drawing says to switch hand position when going from loose to precise lines, but watching people like Brent Eviston drawing he seems to use overhand for his final lines too.

Bros... I can't render

>>5034440
> Last post because I don't want to be rude.
I want to wow my real-life friend drawing perfect circle.
>The who ask version
I only have 1 friend and art is the only thing that connects us. I want to improve to keep the said friend. Pic related is the book he want me to finish.

>>5033156
I have this seven year old attempt that never fails to make me laugh.

>>5034440
Warm ups.

>>5034091
Not /beg/, fuck off

I can't draw at all.
I quit.
https://youtu.be/nL8hVXSDmNM
>>5033789
No, they're not so stop lying to me, I don't need your pity, you have talent and I don't, it's that simple. I wasted months learning but it's you the one who keeps improving with 30 mins a day, it's obvious.

>>5034091
>>5034205
>>5034224
bro, i like your work, but you're not beg. you've been posting here for a bit now and you haven't asked for critique nor has anyone bother critiquing you. posting here will just stagnant your shit, so unless you're here for attention, you should go to /draw/ or /alt/ with people more on your level.

>>5034440
Peter Han

>>5034508
>>5034529
Ok. I will post on random dead threads and auto sage mine posts.

>>5034535
>I will post on random dead threads
why would a threads activity matter? unless you are posting here for attention lol

Where can I find artists who draw in this style and do you have tips how someone can learn drawing it?

During Christmas break I want to grind some figure drawing, drawing for a day, every other day, or something along those lines.
I'm just not quite sure where to start, should I grind individual body parts every day and then stick them together, or start with the body and the refine the different parts? I'm not sure if I know what the fuck I'm doing to be honest.

>>5034538
I do need crit. If you can't see the obvious errors on those pictures. You are actually MGMI. The /ASG/ fags are crazy. The /Doodles/ thread OP is an asshole, /Draw/ is way above my level. I don't draw /FAG/, /LSG/, /SALT/ or /ALT/. I will stop posting ok. Last post for sure. If you reply to this you are a faggot. It was fun.

>>5034462
Eviston can make crisp, clean lines for details with overhand grip because he is a pro
For beginners, of course you're supposed to sketch with the overhand, and then finishing the detaild with tripod

lowest tier /beg/ here. why is this so fucking hard? I feel like I shouldn't be this retarded. Like Im staring at these simple lines and shapes and when I go to do it myself it turns into a 3 year olds fever dream, fuck me. at least I can make you guys feel good about your art.

>>5034559
I usually do the whole figure and look at what I need to work on(feet, hands, arm, etc..).

>>5034576

>>5034561
no need to get bothered by other people. Just post what you want, people get too pigeon hole on how they compare to others rather then enjoying what they draw.

How do I put effort into my art

>>5034576
its just a different mind set, learning how to draw makes you rethink on how everything looks.

>>5034606
>>5034576
Are you willing to suffer when you inevitably come to the conclusion that you have no talent?

>>5034515
>30 mins a day
10/20, and im not lying

>>5033848
Here you go. Only problem is sometimes you get stiff looking posing on quickposes and its then just looks stiff

>>5034612
so you don't enjoy drawing?

>>5034612
I came to that conclusion a long fucking time ago anon. I just want to relax and draw cool stuff and maybe post it online so other people can enjoy it. I have learned so many other hobbies and got decent at them but art is the hardest thing I've ever tried to learn.

>>5034620
Rubbing it in my fucking face? Bragging about your talent? What a fucking dick.

>>5034634
i meant im not lying about saying your faces are the same as mine you illiterate fuck

>>5034299
Define “wasted.” It’s only wasted if you didn’t draw at all. Even if you were just sketching, unless they were truly mindless doodles, you were probably progressing.

>>5034639
Spare me that bullshit, then it's gets even worse, it means that despite my grinding the best I can ever hope to do is the equivalent of some misguided doodling.

>>5034366
Damn. What makes a little girl a little girl? Or at least 15-ish, which is what I’m going with for this girl.

>>5034654
> misguided doodling.
nah i took the time to learn the planes and forms of the head and im guided pretty well thanks as you can see from my improvement of just 10/20 mins a day

>>5034299
When you guys post like this are you actually trying to use material such as courses and guides to your advantage or are you spending hours on one anime character with no clothing or details

Tried to color and I dont fucking know man, looks garbage to me.

>>5034665
> Anon is already better than me.
4 months wasted AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>5034657
that's talent, you have nothing but talent
so fuck you

>>5034657
iVE DONE more than you, ive studied more and you and your shitty heads that will never be taken seriously, a twitter artist is the most you can ever hope to get you deny your talent, you mock me
ACCEPT THAT YOURE TALENTED AND DONT PITY ME

>>5034671
>>5034687
Shut the fuck up holy shit

>>5034665
you need more contrast

>>5034561
>MGMI=mega gonna make it
hey thx :^)

>>5034561
>i don't draw stylized art
nigga what? are attentionfags this retarded

anyone got any guides/tutorials for feet? tired of using shitty shoes as a crutch

>>5034665
Shade with different colors and more contrast. Other than that it looks gud anon

>>5034599
you act like people are bullying him. he should take it as a compliment that people think he doesn't belong here.

>>5034657
how'd you learn the planes of the face? there's so much shit out there it's hard to choose who to learn from

You guys are all fucking retards

>>5034742
bucci, understanding the planes of the head

>>5034687
>iVE DONE more than you, ive studied more
nah, youve probably started some courses and quit after a few days, ive actually followed them through and finished courses

>>5034759
PYW

>>5034733
Just take a look and you'll know who I was. I did take a 4-month break after being shat on. From now on, I'll just do my things and stop coming here.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/u9qzaclj34jct/Sketches

>>5034733
This thread is probably one of the most active of the board how else is he going to get any critiques. Also it is better to have more people with different level of beginners skills in this thread to help others along.

>>5034812
if this guy is /beg/ >>5034802 then i'm literally not even garbage tier yet.

I can't wait to get home from work and draw. I keep dreaming of making american minimum wage with drawing and saving my ass on this third world hellhole. Is this a realistic goal?

Drew Gorillaz from memory because I haven’t actually listened to them in years.

>>5034816
Why do people compare themselves to others, yes there are going to be better and be worst. Just focus on yourself.

>>5034835
100% If you draw furry porn and niche fetishes, you'll make easy money with a Patreon and commissions if you're even halfway decent.

>>5034835
What the other guy above said except disregard the furry and niche fetish porn thing. All you have to do is have good taste, be communicative and draw good porn, even vanilla Pin ups would get you money
Observe https://twitter.com/a_kevbot/status/1332343543013249030?s=21

>>5034841
my guy, just because i'm comparing, doesn't mean i'm disheartened. i'm still going to be grinding, i'm still motivated, and i'm still GONNA MAKE It. it's just me being self aware of my current skill level

>>5034860
tweet unavailable

>>5034860
is this the cankles guy people keep shilling here

tfw can't draw hands
yeah think I'm gonna spend the rest of the day grinding them

>>5034877
No. You can look up their work if you’d like to, I’m not saying they’re insane but it does show you can earn enough privilege to do this. He got some comments saying he’s fucking insane but you know damn well his slots were filled.
>No background nor multiple characters
>185 bucks
>>5034878

>Been doing wrist exercises and stretches regularly since I started to draw
>both wrists are now starting to hurt
>tingling in left wrist last night while sleeping
>wearing a brace on the left hand, dont have a right one but the right one hurts and feels weird. Put biofreeze on it and it helped a bit
>wrists have been popping more then usual
FUCK

>>5034883
i mean yeah looks pretty good to me desu

>>5034898
>two characters
370 bucks plus tip. Anyway my point is that you can make decent to good money without relying on furry crap despite how much people parrot that here

>>5034907
yeah but the point is that piece of art, if they were furry instead of humans it would be over 1k

>>5034913
You can make a decent wage and keep your sanity or start drawing humanoid animals in diapers and make three times as much your choice

>>5034860
Wdym be communicative

>>5034844
>>5034860
What exactly do I have to produce?
Like, just one picture of a sex scene? Or many of them like a story/cartoon?

>>5034366
>>5034656
perhaps? I removed the lines around her eyes because it could read as wrinkles, and made her mouth smaller.

>t. beg

>>5034860
I just looked at his Twitter profile and it gave me an idea of what being communicative means

>>5034934
I see what you mean. Thanks.

>>5034466
you seem to understand form, it should be easy, no? at least for cell shading.

>>5034515
it is fine to give up anon. there are other opportunities out there.

>>5034926
How about you fucking produce art you like and find yourself a following with that.

>>5034711
no, I think it is "might gonna make it".

>>5034966
Ok

>>5034576
does your lines go where you want they to go? like trying to write with your non-dominant hand. if not you might need to work on that first. for that I recommend draw a box.

I was watching some art history lessons and it is a surprisingly good renounce on composition, just because the bar is so low, but still. if you not happy with the resources out there I would give it a try.

Gotta say, even for a total beg, this Alex Woo method of drawing the head works quite nicely.
For those interested: https://youtu.be/afIIuW5aJnk

>>5034727
this one helped me a little https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h5JscshVc0


alternatively draw amputee, they are cute!

>>5034759
hey don't judge man! who else I am going to fuck?

Is copying porn of a particular fetish a good way to learn? Tried copying some shortstack porn and it was fun and helped a bit. Was thinking of trying to copy 1 every day to mainly get the anatomy and proportions down

>>5034835
it is possible, I wouldn't jump right into porn tho. try your luck in less insalubrious fields first. assuming that you don't like drawing porn that is.

>>5034990
>loomis*

>>5034371
>muh burnout
what a meme

>>5034371
Been drawing almost every day for 2 years
Still no burn out

>>5035035
how many hours per day?

>>5035051
I dunno I’d be insane to keep track. It can vary a lot
Here’s my clip studio paint usage in the last 10 days, 5 of them I was sick and I’ve been practicing figure drawing traditional as well. My goals and motivation outweighs my sad and bad days

>>5034622
STOP USING STRAIGHT LINES. STOP THINKING IN ACTION FIGURES.

>>5035062
i hope you're stretching every 30m-1h

>>5035070
I have balls to squeeze

what's a good way to draw a simplified nipple for figure/gesture drawing? i keep doin pepperoni nips

>>5035101
post them, I just draw circle.

>>5035101
draw like a traditional ufo disk but the top is a cylinder instead of an oval capsule

>>5035106
>>5035110

>>5035123
>focusing on details of the tits before the rest of the body is even close to done
Don’t do this lol

>>5035123
looks fine to me

>>5035130
the man knows what he like, nothing wrong with breast studies.

>>5035130
oh yeah, in the course i'm doing, one of the assignments is doing 30 torsos. guess i shoulda clarified that, myb lol.
>>5035132
alright, i'll stick with those kinda nips for now.

Well practicing sculpting clay make me a better artist?

I started trying to draw recently.
This is my rough sketch of JB Gibson from bubblegum crisis.

Spent my evening on this. No reference just pure trash.

Resized and hopefully it posts vertical this time.
Can I get some feedback?

>>5035295
I think I saw that top left drawing months ago
The ear is way too high, you need to learn how the head is shaped and place the features correctly

>>5035295
you seems focus on the chest and forgot everything else. Proportions wise the top drawing is better. Your boobs are to round and makes it looks like fake boobs(unless youre going for that look) they need a little sag.

new

>>5035333
>>5035333
>>5035333

>>5035006
What other "fields" there are?

>>5035313
Yeah top is from a month and a half ago. This is a redraw to gauge progress. The heads are awful, I'm aware of that.
>>5035314
That's the reference. When I draw real people i do try to make them less round. But my goal is to reproduce the reference. With proportions are you talking about the leg' of the second one? Yeah I realize I screwed up there. I know the breasts are huge and over sized, but the proportions and forms of the body seem much better to me.

>>5035062
>It can vary a lot
I mean, isn't that the same as taking a break tho? also it is pretty easy to keep track if you want to.

>>5035295
do you watch mikey mega mega? your drawing remind his style.

>>5035337
maybe fields was the wrong word, I meant non-porn commissions

>>5035725
Yeah so what can it be

>>5035686
Someone mentioned that last time. I've watched like one or two of his videos, but I haven't referenced any of his art or anything. My goal is to create coomer art because that's wear the money is. Large breasts and wide hips tend to come with the territory. If you're comparing me to popular coomer artists, that tells me i'm on the right track. That's the guy who was referencing porn on stream right?

I’ve been told to draw for fun along side practicing fundamentals, but where do I even start? if I don’t know any actual construction or anatomy should I just make Picasso symbol drawings or should I wing it and try to do construction and give my drawings volume without even knowing how to

>>5035820
>That's the guy who was referencing porn on stream right?
kek, yeah he did that

What are the best resources for learning art? Especially with construction, I think I've been doing in a way that doesn't really help out my drawing.

>>5033708
Based shizo anon