/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

maybe dumb question
but i have my laptop hooked up to a monitor
if i want to add a display tablet to my setup
how would i do that if im already using the hdmi for my monitor
can i daisy chain hdmi or something?
or should i buy a display port cable for my monitor

>>5030359
HDMI splitter, but i dont know if that's gonna work with display tablet or not

is dis good

What's a good portable tablet to use for a first time Samsung/Apple use, but experienced in Desktop/Laptop tablets (Wacom)?

>>5030505
Bet they'll have a Christmas sale so you should wait a bit.
Can't say anything about that model but I have a Deco 01 v2 and it's really good.

>>5030505
>chinese tablets
Garbage.

dont buy wacom
its chink garbage

>>5030573
>krita
retard

>>5030573
Tired webm, debunked.

Theres no way you arent a second gen chink immigrant with an identity crisis. No one is this autistic about china.

>>5030607
>still projecting your chinese insecurities onto those criticizing chinese tablets
Like the complete and utter idiot you are.

That is the latest XP-Pen model, and the webm clearly shows issues, idiot.

>>5030610
>he still hasnt learned any new vocabulary

>>5030346
Today, I will remind them

is this brand really that bad? i just want something cheap to try out digital.

damn we need a non chinese competitor to Wacom.

It's infuriating trying to get opinions on tablets, first of all the reviewers are terrible artists, then everyone who buys Chinese shit doesn't use wacom and all the professionals never use cheap stuff so there are no good comparisons. My intuos pro was a giant rip off so id rather avoid buying a cintiq.

>>5030657
6*4 inches is too small.
Get the old Deco 01 if you want to try it cheap.

>>5030665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMmKvPUsbFg

look for actual artists doing the reviews and not career tablet reviewers like rutten, colbow etc

>>5030665
Opinions are opinions.

From objective standpoint the chinks work, might have fewer problems than the wacoms.

All the difference is in the realm of the subjective. The pen feels different and requires hand tuning by the user.

Some guy would open the pen up, tweak it right, get used to it, set the perfect pressure curve and say it's fucking flawless.

Some other guy would get an unlucky sample OOB, not even try the pressure curve and then say it's shit.

>>5030672
Impossible to find, real artists are scared of chinese shit, don't update their tablets often and if they have done a review its 4 years old for some random sample they were sent.
>>5030680
I wish I could get some informed opinions. Out of Huion and XP-Pen is either considered a better quality brand? I'm looking at the Huion KAMVAS 22 Plus and I'm seeing people say its 90% the same as a cintiq but they don't explain or show why its inferior.

>>5030346
There should be a pastebin instead of copy pasting the same text every OP, it makes it difficult to look for information in the archive.

>>5030680
>From objective standpoint the chinks work, might have fewer problems than the wacoms.
You are one desperate shill, idiot.

>>5030697
After having used both, I can say that the cintiq pro has a much more sensitive pen that allows for very delicate work. Out of the box, I had to actually decrease its maximum pressure because I was having to really press down so damn hard. After the adjustment, it feels great though. The kamvas pen felt like it had a very slight stabilizer on all the time, which actually helped with lineart. The cintiq pro has a nicer display with a higher resolution, but the kamvas also has a good display. The Pros screen has a very slightly textured glass while kamvas was more smooth.

The kamvas however will arrive with its own stand, and is much lighter than the pro. I had to spend an extra 250 euros to just not have to hunch over the cintiq, since it only arrives with those two little shitty feet with no adjustment options.
Im using the cintiq pro at home, and moving my kamvas to work. Fundamentally, the cintiq pro feels awesome to work on, but the kamvas did the job as well for a quarter of the price.

Update of the riveting tale:
Intuos M (pistachio) was not lost in mail
They sent me a code to track it that wasn't working
Now they sent me another which works
Tracking it now
Will be here soon

>>5030713
it's ok, the chinaman can't hurt you.

>>5030697
>Out of Huion and XP-Pen is either considered a better quality brand? I'm looking at the Huion KAMVAS 22 Plus and I'm seeing people say its 90% the same as a cintiq but they don't explain or show why its inferior.

Xp-Pen seem to be somewhat sleeker and better built when it comes to the screenless tablets BUT Huion seem to use better the technologies when it comes to the screens.

Kamvas 22 Plus just can't be beat at the price range. Or out of the price range, it seems to be really fucking good.
It has the best screen, bonded etched glass and also costs less. Most xp-pen by comparison have smooth airgapped glass and pretty mediocre displays.

I would say you get Xp for the screenless tablets and you get huion for the screens.

>wacom’s only tablet for black friday sale was the intuos small
what the fuck

>>5030752
nice, just what I was looking for. Do you own the kamvas 22 or the 22 plus? Do you get any line jitter or lag with the huion? (in general the kamvas seems alright, the initial activation force may be an issue since I actually wish the Intuos pro was more sensitive. It's probably something I could get used to if its reasonable)

>>5030777
thanks, I'm in the market for a screen display as an upgrade from an intuos pro so ill keep an eye on Huion.

>>5030784
Its the 22 plus. Got it for about 500 euros in august. I didnt get any lag or driver issues at all. Sometimes with brushes that had a huge pressure/size bracket, I would get jitter when touching very lightly. This would occur in Krita and PS, but not in SAI or SAI 2, so I suspect its also software related.

As for activation force, holding the pen and pressing down with just its own weight was enough to make an uninterrupted line.

>>5030671
>Get the old Deco 01
>no tilt
Really?

Why not the 16" Cintiq vs the 22"?

>>5030797
I'd rather have no tilt than a tiny workspace area.

>>5030797
Cant think of a bigger meme than tilt. I really cant, its up there with ligameme and asian jeans. It only has one super fucking specific use, which is emulating conventional traditional means. You can even create your own tilt effect anyway, since if you tilt your pen you'll invariably push down with less force. So just set density/size of your tool to pressure.

>>5030804
I don't see the 01 being much cheaper than ones the same size with tilt (including v2), but maybe it is, somehwere.
>>5030806
So even for $8 more you wouldn't take it?

>>5030808
All things considered a v2 is a better tablet, buT i personally didn't get any use out of tilt.
90% of work is done with round brushes and the flat and cool looking brushes can just follow the stroke direction.

>>5030794
Oh so by Cintiq having a more sensitive pen you meant it was easier to control the thickness of lines? I guess that gives a nicer taper to lines aswell. If the Huion has good initial activation force and no lag or major jitter it sounds fine to me, ill probably pick one up in the coming months.

Alright today I finally buy.
GAOMON PD1560 15.6 or XP-PEN Artist15.6

>>5030808
I dont use it, never noticed it and dont do trad art, so actually Id actually take the 8 dollars kek

>>5030811
>>5030814
Hmm. Kinda wished I'd pulled the trigger on the 01 for €26 now..

I just got gifted one of these, are they good?

>>5030812
>easier to control the thickness of lines?

At very light thin lines, yeah. Veeery thin ones. The pen is more sensitive in the way thats a bit hard to describe, its like the difference between a brush with 5% smoothing/stabilizer on all the time and one with 0%

I have a UGEE 1910b, and it is absolutely mediocre.
The perfect 5/10

Gonna upgrade soon to the Cintiq 22HD

>>5030819
model?

>>5030820
thanks for all the info, its really hard to find people who have used both tablets.

>>5030833
wacom one medium

>>5030819
Only issue is you might need a screen protector or have to buy more nibs assuming the surface is same as the intuos line. but wacom products are pretty consistent, good for beginners and can last for many years

>>5030819
They are good enough to try drawing and upgrade if you actually like it.

>>5030672
Nah, you're just a chinese moron, cherrypicking shills that shill your garbage products.

No "actual" artist would ever waste their time doing tablet reviews unless there was commercial incentive.

>>5030806
Let's face it, Zhang. Anything you chinese morons can't get right is a meme in your eyes.

>>5030953
>>5030958
Holy based Wacom defense force.

>>5030965
You keep switching between calling me a Wacom shill, a Samsung shill and an Apple shill. Can't you just pick one and stick with it, moron?

Tilt is a very handy feature to have that many people enjoy, particularly those coming from a traditional sketching background. Nothing you say will change that, stupid chink.

>>5030953
>>5030958
>>5030967
Aannd he's back

>>5030967
Holy based schizoid.

how come jannies will ban you if you're racist to whites
but it's okay to be racist to chinks and negroes

I have both, a Cintiq and an Intuos Pro and for some unexplained reason, I'm feel more confident and comfortable drawing on my Intuos Pro.
I have to say, in my Intuos my hand doesn't blocks my view.

Looking for a present for my little sister. I could get the intous pro m for 255$ (214 euros). Is that a good option? Is there a cheaper intro model that might be more appropriate?
Also: Can i use a drawing tablet to edit photos too?
thanks in advance

>>5031039
No, its twice as expensive as a deco pro which is just as good, if not better because you dont get your nibs fucked.

fellas, is it fair to say that wacom is the apple of the tablet industry?

>>5031063
Yes. Theyre even worse than apple because they had zero competitors for a good 30 years. The only thing holding them back was a relatively niche consumer demographic.

there's a lot of talk of tablets, but not much about pens. which functions do you guys map to your buttons? what is your opinion of having an eraser on the back?

for me, i have one button mapped to change temporarily to the color picker, and the other temporarily changes to the pan tool. for everything else i use a tabmate for shortcuts.

i've never owned a pen with an eraser but i feel like it would be annoying and if i did have it, i wouldn't use it. if i had to turn the pen around in my hand every time i wanted to erase, that would slow me down and get in the way.

also what do you do about parallax? i've heard cintiqs are good, but due to the design of the old 2.0 huion pen there is pretty bad parallax when you tilt the pen at all. if you want the cursor to stay exactly under the nib from where you've calibrated it, you'd have to always hold the pen in the exact same way. some people can do this, i can't, so i just calibrate it to have the cursor to the left of the nip a couple millimeters. i've tried holding it straight up and down all the time to keep it directly under the nib but i've found that it actually gets in the way and i can't see precisely where the cursor is, so having it offset gives you more precision in a way since nothing is blocking the view of the cursor.

>>5031063
That gives them too much credit, they didn't rise to the top because they were innovative or great they just had no competition. As soon as actual tech companies invested in pen technology they accidentally destroyed wacoms mobile studio line. As prices have gone up build quality has gone down, they still have mediocre drivers and now nibs made out of butter, if their only competition wasn't Chinese shit they would be out of business already.

>$1000 regular price
is this a joke? lol

Ok, i'm getting a larger tablet, most likely a huion 22, possibly 22 plus... im iffy, but I will decided by the end of the day. what I need now is some help on what arm to get, as I have no real space in my setup to allow it to be a desktop thing, and in all honesty i'm not replacing my monitor with it, so i need an arm that I can easily get the device out of my way, something with a longish reach, and something that can hopefully angle down enough so its at lap level... the arm that I have access to is FAR to stiff to be used for something im going to move around, good if I want it to be static, sure, but if I move it around its a no go.

anyone got good arm suggestions for something that weighs about 7-8lb?

>>5031202
ergotron lx

mine holds my 16 kilo cintiq + adapter with no issue at all

>>5031193
remember, whenever a company sells something like this at this much of a discount, the sale price is approaching the minimum of what they have to charge and still make a profit enough for it to be worth it. they could sell it for $530 all the time but they choose to sell it at a further upcharge of an additional $470. you're paying $530 for the actual product, and an additional $470 for a logo. every company does this, but pay attention to how much the discount is to see how scummy a company is being about their pricing. on friday, a tablet i'd had my eye on for a while went on sale from $400 to $320. that's pretty modest by comparison.

>>5031211
oh i don't plan to buy it whatsoever. its just funny what a scam it is.
even at the sale price

>>5031205
not bad, but I question if I need to have one that costs that much, I do like that it can be extended.

>>5031193
that tablet is 400 on amazon, and that version comes with painter 2021 which is normally what nearly 500$ itself.

yea its a shit price.

>>5031222
Oh it's a scam alright, Wacom One's retail for 400

>>5031228
>buying paint software that isnt clip studio
>ever
>>5031231
its canadian prices so its actually about the same. still a scam

>>5031233
painter is hands down the best painting software for emulating traditional paint, nothing else is close, but I wouldn't not get painter outside of a humble bundle 30$ buy in because I don't value the emulation that much.

>>5031233
it changed everything for me early this year when someone told me about CSP. i don't understand how or why anyone still uses photoshop for drawing and painting, or krita. both programs were buggier than bird shit but CSP has always run perfectly without a problem. to the best of my knowledge corel paint works well but you need a pretty beefy PC or else it runs like diarrhea

>>5031052
thanks. in the op it says not to go for xp pen. does hat product hold up?

>>5031252
>>5031246
i havent tried painter but $400 is a ridiculous asking price for any software imo.
maybe worth a pirate.
i prefer csp to ps because painting with it feels way more natural, and shortcuts and general navigation is way more intuitive to me

>>5031264
yeah you can really tell just from using it that CSP was designed from the ground up for drawing. PS runs exactly how you would expect, as a photo manipulation program that coincidentally is also capable of drawing if you feel like using it for that for some reason. don't use a program for a certain purpose, if the program was designed with that purpose as nothing more than a distant afterthought, or not at all. it baffles me how anyone still uses PS for drawing or painting nowadays given the available alternatives. the only thing i miss from it is proofing. there are ways to do the same thing in CSP but you can't paint in color with a desaturation layer on top, it's only for checking how values are looking as an aside. at least i haven't figured out a way to make it work the same as PS proof.

I bought this Gaomon PD1161 2 days ago (via Gaomon's official store in Aliexpress)
I'm waiting the deliver...

>>5031262
OP is a schizo retard who isnt an artist, tells everyone to buy an ipad like he did and is genuinely making all these threads cancer. Check pic related here:
>>5030633
He's been spamming anti china stuff for months now.

But yea, the deco pro is pretty good. Virtually all non display tablets have plateaud in capability over the last 3 years. The only difference is that wacom ones cost 4 x more due to "brand recognition", with a printer ink business design in the form of nibwear. They realized its dumb to release a solid tablet that lasts for a decade like in the old days, because youre basically losing a customer; they dont need to buy anything else from you.

>>5031277
Also, I'm from Brazil and an unemployed fag
I can't buy anything expensive

>>5031001
Because no one reports the rulebreaking posts, fag.

>>5031281
>Virtually all non display tablets have plateaud in capability over the last 3 years
This is true to an extent but Im still waiting for the cheap alternatives to catch up with stylus rotation as well as larger sizes (only huion has so far toyed with large screenless tablets)

>>5031281
his advice seems pretty solid though, it lines up with my experience.

>>5031288
t. Schizoid

>>5031281
IIRC the original lightbulb made by thomas edison still works. it's called the centennial light and it's been running almost nonstop since 1901, but (((light bulb companies))) can't figure out how to build a light bulb that runs for longer than a year or two without burning out

i assure you, loyal customer. it is absolutely vital to the drawing experience that we make our tablet surfaces out of literal sandpaper.

>>5031063
At least Apple won't sell you a mediocre screenless tablet for the same price as a real tablet with a pen that will wear down in a few hours and have idiots with stockholm syndrome defend it.

>>5031264
painter is well worth it if you come from traditional mediums, I think rebelle 3 may be better water color though.

personally, I just wait for the yearly humble bundle, im ok with last years software for 30$

>>5031388
anyone know when it's going to be on sale this year? i wouldn't mind getting it for $30

>>5031396
2-3 months back, 2021 will likely go on humble once 2022 is out.

is the wacom ONE any good?

>>5031425
no

>>5031425

>>5031429
>>5031437
s-sorry i know acknowledge my mental retardation
is this one any good?
https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Tableta-pantalla-monitor-DTK2260K0A-ACK411050/dp/B08KVN76X8/ref=sr_1_15?__mk_es_US=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=WACOM%2BCINTIQ&qid=1606694052&sr=8-15&th=1

>>5031442
yes that one is excellent you should not only buy it, but also cut a pound of flesh off your body and send it to wacom in a ziplock bag.

>>5031442
Oh, I thought you were the schizo

Pros of Screen Tablets:
1) Drawing is more natural
2) The less expensive ones can have parallax, Cintiqs shouldn't, however
3) Bad ergonomics (You'll have way more back pain etc) from drawing for long periods on a screen tablet
4) All sorts of issues. What sort of issues, you ask? Screens will tend to die (although I guess the frequency depends on your bad luck) on both Cintiqs and Chinese tablets. Cintiqs probably die less than Chinese tablets but I've also seen people who have a cursed time with them
5) An android tablet with EMR or ipad with apple pen have screens that are highly unlikely to ever bite it, but connecting these things to a computer without lag can be finicky. In the case of iPad there are a whole host of issues like the devices themselves Apple tries to kill via software updates (and if you don't update it will stop working) and you can pretty much only use Procreate as a permanent purchase without having to pay for a subscription so CSP/PS will cost subscription money and as far as I know, there's no good way of connecting it to a computer without Astropad which is subscription I believe. Galaxy Tabs, people have said that connections are possible. However, I think that Androids are lacking on the software side with CSP being subscription again.

>>5031442
in all seriousness though
>$1300
>1080p at 22 inches

for that price and screen size you should settle for nothing less than a 2k display. hell, i would argue that it's even a rip off at that cost for anything less than 4k.

>>5031442
Screenless Tablets:
1) Cheaper, so if you decide to quit art you probably won't regret dropping so much money
2) A lot of pros still use screenless tablets (so it will still give you good art)
3) However, it can take quite a while to adapt if you are used to traditional, for example, say a month
4) If you are drawing for long periods of time, you will find it's easier to draw on them as you won't be hunched over

>>5031453
>>5031460
i have a screenless tablet,i havent gotten used to it in 3 years so i think its time to just give up and get a screen tablet
i admit that the "sometimes cintiqs just die" thing scares me but i suck too much with a screenless tablet
thank you anon,but im still sort of not sure if that one in particular is good or bad

>>5031455
>>5031442
https://www.amazon.com/HUION-Resolution-Anti-Glare-Battery-Free-Sensitivity-23-8in/dp/B089K3SNB9/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=huion+4k&qid=1606695392&sr=8-3

this would be a much better use of your money. not only is it slightly larger and has a proper non-eye raping pixel density for it's size, it's also significantly cheaper and you don't lose out on anything meaningful you would get from the cintiq for $400 less. if you want the hotkey remote, just buy the hotkey remote separately. i don't know if you were being serious about wanting a large tablet or if you were being snarky in response to snark, but if you were interested in a large expensive tablet, there ya go.

>>5031469
thanks,although the anon saying the thing about 2k and 4k isnt me and i dont really understand what he's talking about

>>5031467
Well if you've used a tablet in the past and are reasonably familiar with them and haven't given up on art in that time then a screen tablet seems like a decent investment and you've got like 2 years warranty on it. I guess it all depends on the roll of the die. I see people with XP pens running around a lot more but well, I also saw an anon with theirs die in like 1 year and 7 months and another anon's is like fine wayyy after that time, so I guess it's up to how much you're using them and whether or not RNG favours you

>>5031442
Why not take the iPad Pro 12.9 pill at this point? At least it’s not fuckin 1080p and it’s big enough.

>>5031480
is it any good?
>>5031477
thank youuu

>>5031484
Not them, just keep in mind that this is what has happened to all my iPads in the past. You don't just buy one and then consider it done. If you update your software you'll get more use out of it for longer but keep in mind also that updates are one way and are a one way direction to bloat up your device. You also won't be able to pirate stuff such as subscription (PS, CSP) software as it is very difficult to crack nowadays (and no one cracks them) whereas in the past I could just use an addon, search for some names and set premium to true. That gravy train has long since passed. And you might be able to pirate apps like procreate via sideloading but you'll need to resign them and to be honest finding cracked IPAs is a huge pain in the ass so you'll probably just want to buy it.

If you go the android and apple route and want to use it to draw on a computer, make sure you do careful research on screen mirroring apps. Certain screen mirroring apps, especially on apple only work on iPad. The ones I've heard mentioned include Astropad (which according to youtube seems great, but there might be a subscription), Duet (which I've heard is bad), Sidecar (which according to an anon is bad). I heard a few threads ago that someone got screen mirroring working well on their galaxy tab, but idk if they experienced any latency.

In general, Procreate does seem to be a powerful program for ios, but due to my experience with pic related, there's always a smallish risk.

>>5031484
*especially on apple only work on iPad.
Should be, certain screen mirroring apps for iPad only work if you own a Mac

>>5031471
i was the one who brought up 2k and 4k. i wrote out a super long comment but i'll just post this video if you want to watch it real quick explaining pixel density.

basically, on a 20 inch display and larger, at the close viewing distance people tend to use drawing tablets, which is anywhere from 1-2 feet away from their face, 1080p is not a high enough resolution and it will not provide a high enough pixel density for comfortable viewing and a crisp image. some people don't mind it but others will be bothered by how pixelated the screen looks, basically it looks kinda blurry and you can see the individual pixels because they're physically large enough and you're close enough that you can see them.

TLDR 1080p isn't high enough resolution for 20 inch drawing tablet and it will look bad. 2k, also known as 1440p resolution, is the minimum you should settle for if you can afford it. if you can only afford 1080p, a 16 inch tablet is the cut off point to where it's not so big that it will look shitty because pixel density isn't low enough for that to happen.

>>5031504
whoops sorry, forgot to link the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl5cN8Z7LnM

>>5031495
You only need to draw
That post mentions fucking YouTube and Gacha lol. Oh woe is me Azur lane will stop working on my iPad in 5 years. The current apps allow you to make great work, you don’t need continuous updates. Procreate won’t just not work one day

>>5031504
>>5031507
i understand what you meant now i'll try to keep it in mind

>>5031510
Discord, Chrome, Dropbox integration are all fucked on my devices, half the webpages don't load correctly, Wikipedia doesn't even fucking load properly. All the apps on the app store and are no longer deemed compatible with the latest iosShit has now been removed from the appstore so good luck trying to find a drawing app if you didn't download it when your device was new hotness.

I've had plenty of apps from which the only "feature" that the update added is an enormous popup saying that the app is now discontinued permanently and good luck downgrading that fucking app to remove the notifications (protip, it won't fucking work). And if you don't pay Apple to service your device and use instead a third party battery service people get denied service all the time.

Apple = a fucking mistake for any artist remotely worth their salt. I've been emulating android since 2017 and old versions of their OS have zero issues with updating apps and the like. It's an iOS exclusive problem.

>Procreate won’t just not work one day
Are you sure about that? Have you run it through a MITM proxy and checked that? All it takes is for the dev not to give a shit and there are plenty that don't give a single damn about you. And plus, you will also be stuck with the old version of the app as everyone else gets further and further away from the point at which you are trapped. What kind of regular computer would deny you basic things such as browser updates or art program updates unless you buy yet another iPad when your existing one hasn't even fucking died yet hardwarewise and is years away from dying but software wise it is totally fucked?

>>5031523
Which iPad do you currently use anyway? I can only imagine the first generations are completely fucked with support everything after are just slower than what they used to be.

>>5031523
>Apple = a fucking mistake for any artist remotely worth their salt

what makes you think you'd be the person to give advice on what artists remotely worth their salt would like :^) you sound like a retard

>>5031538
My brother and I between us own an iPad air, iPad 4, iPad 2, an iphone 6, an iphone 6S and in the past an ipod touch 5 and ipod touch 2 and all of them are affected by this issue. (A lot of these have been purchased outright on business discounts.)

>>5031551
>Air 1 (released 2013)
>standard iPad 4 (released 2012)
>both 500 dollar devices
Bruh I thought you would’ve at least had a first generation pro or something. How can you talk about artists worth a shit using iPads when the latest piece of tech you got from Apple is a pad from 7 years ago

>>5031561
>n-no my iPad is special and will be the exception
It's not.

>>5031567
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying this is an issue for many similar devices including phones when they get that old. You don't even own one that's made with doing digital art in mind. You have a collection of welfare devices by this point in 2020. People who still use the first generation pro are still doing perfectly fine, just a shorter battery life of course. Also seeing that you own multiple iterations of iphones and ipods, you must just be retarded. Ipads still dont have good competition stacked against them when it comes to portable tablets to make art

>>5031585
They do have good competition stacked against them. You're not going to be running any 3D programs like maya or zbrush on an iPad, you're pretty much glued to procreate, watered down PS (if you're buying this on a subscription) or CSP on a subscription.

>>5031039
>>5031262
Don't let yourself be conned by the chinese shill here.
The Intuos Pro M is an industry standard tablet. Don't waste your time with any of the Chinese imitations just because one deranged china shill in this thread tells you to.

>>5031804
>trusting an ngmi Appletard who has never drawn anything in his entire fucking life and who doesn't even own a tablet for tablet advice
Post your fucking work.

>>5031804
>anon has 250$ for a gift
>Dude buy a used intuos with scratches and shit on
>old cheeto dust makes for a fantastic present.

Dude you fucking stink.

>>5031495
>I heard a few threads ago that someone got screen mirroring working well on their galaxy tab, but idk if they experienced any latency.

I use an app called Super Display to use my Galaxy Note 8 like a tiny Cintiq. The latency is barely noticeable, and I've been using it over wifi.

The quality and lack of hassle for that function is a big part of what convinced me to order a Tab S7+

>5031812
>5031813
>when you have to post from your PC and your phone to samefag reply in a slow thread
You're desperate as always, Zhang. Your Chinese tablets are still garbage though.

>>5031804
yes, the tablet with a sandpaper drawing surface and nibs made of gelatin is the industry leader. clearly.

>>5031823
Hopefully they come to their fucking senses eventually because I don't want to deal with decades more of this nib eating garbage

>>5031823
"Industry standard" is just a nice way of saying "the same shit everyone else has to use in this professional setting" which is why Wacom is the only tablet art schools ask for by name. It doesn't have to do with quality at all. Moreso, the high pricetag is to keep begs and minorities (in the states anyway) out of the industry.


tldr: Wacom is just a name but it's the only name "industry" giants know.

If Huion or XP ever surpassed Wacom in popularity it would be a different story.

all I know is that I'd rather draw with my nutsack than use another wacom that fucks the drivers for several of my other PC peripherals.

>>5031861
Except they're also better for drawing than your Chinese rubbish in every way. Even your favorite youtube shills still use Wacom tablets over Chinese ones.

>>5031879
>the only thing that the schizoid comprehends is youtube
This is your brain on zoomer

>>5031879
>implying I plugged anything not made in china on my post.


Wacom is yellow too, kiddo.

>>5031893
who the fuck's hardware do you use then? name a digital drawing hardware company that doesn't manufacture their products in china, and no a mouse doesn't count.

>>5031895
Old and used exclusively!

>>5031893
>>5031895
>>5031897

>>5030781
They have a sale on refurbished tablets.
They’re still trying to brand themselves as premium after discontinuing several pro models.

>>5031277
I really hope they’ve improved. I had one a while back, shit ton of parallax. Also the pen needs to be charged, that was a deal breaker for me in the long run.

>>5031931
Wacom status = Bullied

>>5031134
I hate the usual placement of the function buttons on stylus pens. Just give me a buttonless pen with a groove god dammit. Though since disabling them literally does fuck all I've set it to color picker as well. I tried the newest apple stylus with the iPad pro the other day though and holy shit have they got the pen game under lock. Mouse offset is the bottle neck for every graphical tablet I've ever tried but somehow the lads over at apple managed to have their engineers iron that out to an impressive degree. It's just too bad that you'd have to fork out like two thousand bucks for what is a relatively average drawing experience in every other regard.

>>5030505
I managed to buy one for like 300 GBP from some guy who hadn't even taken it out of the box. I can't speak to the supposed issues people keep bringing up in these threads because I haven't had a single issue with mine. The texture of the screen protector is great, the parallax is pretty minimal, the red wheel is chill.

Absolutely no art experience, want to get a tablet to start learning, is this a good deal / is it good for starting out anons?

>>5032215
No, never get a small tablet, it will suck to draw on. Get medium. Also huions and xp pens are cheaper and do the same thing.

>>5032232
Thanks for the input. Will look for a medium tablet. Trying to find one on sale / on the cheaper side since I don't want to spend a lot since I'm just getting into this.

>>5032232
>Also huions and xp pens are cheaper and do the same thing.
Except worse. Also can't do tilt, touch or pen eraser.
Nice try, Chinese shill.

>>5032234
Just don't waste your time on chinese rubbish. Even the cheaper Wacoms will give you a more consistent drawing experience. Consider a used Intuos 3 on Ebay if you can, they're great value.

>>5032215
>>5032232
And if you are really new to drawing, you should also get some large papers and charcoals, graphite sticks and pencils and watch some beginner proko videos that will teach you how to hold the tools, sharpen and most importantly, use your whole arm for drawing not just your wrist.

Reminder to ignore and report

>>5032240
>>5032241
Thanks for the additional info! Will probably be stalking all over the web today since it's cyber monday. Will also consider picking up that charcoal and paper.

>>5032244
Also, don't listen to the anti-chink /pol/tard schizo, it's a chronic shitposter autist that the mods don't do anything about. It stays up 24/7 and keeps samefagging and trying to shill Wacom and Appleshit here. If you want tablet advice, you should never ask in this thread and should always make new threads.

>>5032254
>p-please don't ask for advice in this thread! i cant do my 10 won a week job properly because of that blasted OP! preas- i mean please isolate yourself so I can safely shill chinese tablets to you without being called out!

>>5031821
Can you two dynamic IP ban evaders shut the fuck up?

>>5031857
Just rub the surface with something to make it smooth and it will stop eating nibs, this is a retarded problem to have but its not that difficult to solve.

Should the pen size be an issue? Would large pens interfere with your drawing?

>>5031299
>Apple
>no idiots with stockholm syndrome defending it
?

>>5030346
okay so
budget: 400.
location usa
display type
size doesnt matter really
other my main concern and focus is accuracy. i am tired of drawig a line 500 times and constantly clicking undo and doing it again and again. i just want to fucking draw like i do with paper but have the ability to use layers and all the other advantages of digital drawing.

Currently own a Huion GT-191, don't really have any issues with it besides the fact it's way too bulky and inconvenient to clear off a space on my desk to use it. Kick stand is pretty damn large. I find myself drawing less just because it's a pain to rearrange my desk, move my keyboard and stuff whenever I want to lean over the thing and doodle.

I'm thinking about selling this thing and getting something smaller or something straight-up portable so I can get comfy on my bed with a drawing tablet. Any recommendations? I definitely prefer something with a screen, preferably around a similar price point to what I already have; roughly $400 - $500.

>>5032771
You need a bigger desk instead, something you don't ever have to re-arrange.

>>5032843
Nah it's not a desk problem. I have two other monitors in the middle and center, my PC in the back center, two Rokit 6" speakers on the back two corners, my keyboard and mouse in front of my middle monitor and a MIDI keyboard between my keyboard and my central monitor. Then my drawing tablet is on the right.

test

>>5032843
>>5032880
In other words my desk is plenty big, I just have a lot of equipment. I probably couldn't fit any larger desk into my room.

>>5032763
Nothing in your budget. Xp's 15.6 Pro comes close but wobble is a given for 3rd party. Save up another couple hundred for a Cintiq. The Wacom One has too many performance issues.

>>5033152
damn i was considering the wacom one. thats a shame. what kind of issues?

>>5032763
If 10" is a big enough drawing space for you, and you're on PC, look into the Galaxy Tab S6 lite. You can use it as a pen display for your PC with the Super Display app, and obviously you can also use the creative software native to Android.

Super Display is pretty new, but it works well enough in my experience that I'd suggest an Android drawing tablet over a dedicated pen display. The S6 Lite is will fit your budget and has a better pen than other pen displays in your price range.

thinking about trading in my ipad pro for a galaxy s7+
>hate ios in general
>csp is on android now, strongly prefer that and infinite painter over procreate as well
>with the discounts and shit, it'll only cost me 350$
>comes with a free controller and s-pen which is a nice bonus
i really dont see any huge downsides to doing this, except for the fact that some of the money i sunk into the ipad already will be completely wasted. still a sacrifice im willing to make.

What's a good display tablet within the $500-$700 price range? I've been rocking a parblo A610 Pro for almost a year now and my friend wants to buy me an upgrade with a bunch of bells and whistles for Christmas. I don't want him to buy something uberexpensive that's turns out to be dogshit, so can anyone offer any recs? Iirc he was eyeing some XP Pen tablets like the 24/22R and 15.6 but I'm always hearing about how XP Pen makes some shoddy stuff. Any reqs?

>>5033579
Assuming you're on PC, would you be open to an android tablet that can be used as a pen display, or are you dead set on a dedicated pen display? If you're on a Mac, I don't think you can do it with Android. There are a couple apps to do it with iPad, but I've read mixed things and haven't tried them myself.

To use an Android tablet as a pen display for Windows, I've recently started using Super Display:
https://superdisplay.app/

I'm gonna say up front that I've only been using Super Display on Android for about a week, so that's the only real test data I have, but it feels almost just like using my Cintiq, which makes sense since Samsung uses Wacom's EMR pen tech, so the only worry would be the app having latency or transfering inputs to the PC incorrectly, and I haven't had trouble with either of those things. I've been using it over wifi, but if you do get any latency, using a wired connection should fix it.

For that price you could go with anything from the Galaxy Tab S6 Lite, which is actually less than $500 to the 128GB model of the Tab S7 Plus or 256GB model of the standard Tab S7.

What pros does the Cintiq 22HD have over the current-gen Cintiq 22?

>>5033626
>I'm gonna say up front that I've only been using Super Display on Android for about a week
I mean, I doubt it's going to die after that. And since it's a real tablet it'll be able to do anything that a real tablet can do plus being able to act like a cintiq and plus it'll be covered under warranty by a global company that has a reputation to uphold. And since that app looks like it's a permanent purchase and not subscription cancer, it seems like a really nice and reliable way of getting a super cheap screen tablet. The only drawback probably is that Apple devices have a longer battery life, but not having to deal with death by iOS update if you can just stick to an android version seems like a great deal. And not having to literally jailbreak for a good degree of access on a tablet like you'd have to have on iOS.

>tracking my Intuos M (pistachio)'s merry journey on the mail website
>gone to two wrong post offices now and redirected elsewhere
Fuck's going on in there

just in case you thought i was sorry

>>5033676
You could've given it to me instead

>>5033663
Yeah, It is a one time purchase, and I really like it so far. Not having to deal with setting up all the wires and being tethered to an outlet has made it much easier to do digital drawing at my partner's place.

I found out about Super Display recently and started using it on my Note 8 to test it out. It's been working great. The Note is tiny for a drawing tablet, though, but the success I've had with Super Display convinced me to pull the trigger on the Tab S7+ 256GB for black Friday. It should arrive tomorrow.

Really looking forward to having roughly the full Cintiq experience but much more mobile.

>>5033676
The fuck am I looking at? Did you throw a tantrum? How's your drywall doing?

>>5033683
>>5033695
The retard is reposting images made months and months and months ago, ignore it

>>5033695
Let's just say fuck Huion. You're paying 300 for something that normally costs 2000, so of course it's absolute trash. XP Pen is much better.

>>5033699
What does that matter?

>>5033709
So you broke glass all over your carpet and ended up bleeding and then posted pics of it to an image board for 2 months. Do I have this right?

>>5032771
if you're lacking desk space, you should get one of these folding side tables. put your keyboard on it and whatever else you don't have room for while you use your tablet

>>5033673
my condolences. whenever shit gets hung up in the mail due to retardation it makes me want to blow my brains out

>>5033688
how do you even use a 10 inch tablet with a pc? for mobile apps it seems like it would be ok because they're designed for maximum canvas space with minimal UI and that's probably around the size of the canvas area i work in CSP, but i cannot imagine using a tablet that small with a desktop program having to give up so much space to desktop program UI shit. i have a 13 inch tablet and even that feels claustrophobic at times.

>>5033200
Read this thread and previous for a few. The usual really: driver issues, pen problems since they cheaped out on that model. It's not worth it.
>>5033676
Old copy pasta but also kek

>>5033512
I like the ipad pro but i know it won’t fit everyone’s workflow, go for it and tell us your impressions after a few weeks.

>>5033922
That's why I went with the Tab S7+ myself, but I've been using my Note 8 phone until it arrives, and its cramped but doable. You can zoom in on bits of the screen and save positions to snap to. I have one for all my tool pallets and one for just the canvas, and it works well for the size of a large phone.

I feel like 10" would def be useable, but again I did opt for larger myself because the larger size will be more comfortable.

>>5033913
It arrived, just gotta make a quick ride to the citayyy

>>5034490
You have the most cursed luck, anon. I pray that your E rank luck eases itself.

>>5031277
Que bom que comprou, anon, você vai gostar bastante.
>>5031933
They indeed have improved. Honestly, it feels like drawing on a wacom, the screen got texture and it feels great, the size is also good too. The only thing that you need to calibrate are the colors, otherwise it's the best budget tablet out there. Dare to say it's not even worth the "budget" title, because I have a friend that make professional animation and he too uses a Gaomon.

Also if the wacom shill is out there, eat my dick you piece of shit. Thank god for the chinks reverse engineering wacom and apple overpriced craps so the world besides burgerland can actually have quality material instead of being an IDIOT and buying these overpriced pieces of shit. Stay mad wacom troon

Yo people who have a Samsung Galaxy S6 Lite - Do you have a Wi-fi only or an LTE (assuming you get a contract?)

>>5032215
If you are new to drawing then you have to get one with a screen or go traditional. It is way too hard starting with these things.

so i want a tablet with a screen, i feel like id enjoy that a lot more than the regular tablet. ive had two before the hunion H10 pro and wacom intuos little. i did not like the huion, ive always had issues with it being a delay on the pen on most apps except paint. i also use windows 10 laptop and not gonna lie my computer is a slow shitter but im hoping to upgrade in a year or so. when i was using wacom i did experiencing the delay there too but not as much, it would go away eventually. i tried especially for my huion to rid of the delay but it never went away. i didnt really like how the pen felt drawing anyway so i dont think im gonna get any huion. ive been looking at xp pen and wacom products hoping i can make those work for my shit computer. im not spending anything over 600, preferably under 400 actually but i can make it swing. my computer is a lenovo win10 and she sucks ass but its what i got. i think 13in would be enough

>>5035921
save up more money and get an ipad air or pro, you won't need any more tablets for at least another 10 years

>>5035982
that sucks

so i didn't know this before but apparently pens need to be broken in. i got my kamvas pro 16 today and i noticed the pressure sensitivity sucked. i thought it was the tablet so i plugged in my 13 pro and tried it with that and it was the same. i tried it with the old pen. the new pen is on the right and the old is on the left. there's a slight creekiness to the new one when i write with it like the nib is rubbing against the pen rather than sliding smoothly. idk if there's a way to break it in faster.

actually i have no idea what to make of this anymore after doing a straight line test. the top one is the new one and the bottom is the old one. the new one has a step in the middle where the pressure catches but aside from that it's very smooth, whereas with the old one it's like the entire range is filled with a bunch of tiny steps.

>>5035921
Get a new computer first.

cant fucking decide between s7+ or intuos pro m

What should I buy?

Budget $ <1500
Location: Aus
Type: display, compatible with windows
Size: 16 inches or less
Other information: mainly want to use for more efficient lineart (tilt is a plus), I am ok at using graphics but it's a bit slow/inaccurate, I draw at least 6 hours everyday so it not promoting eyestrain with fucked up colours/resolution is good. I draw flat on table so don't need a stand. Generally use clip studio paint only. Will be plugged into a laptop with decent specs.

Previous equipment:
-Graphics tablet (Wacom pen and touch) still trucking for professional works
-Note 9 (decent all around, pen is surprisingly nice. unfortunate hardware limitations)
-XP pen 22hd, abhorrrently bad, divine punishment for trusting the Chinese (not in use)

>>5036145
Probably just upgrade to note 10plus or a galaxy note 20ultra. They are within budget and the plus and ultra versions are stronger hardware. I find on my note 10plus. i am able to use roughanimator and medibang with less limitations then on my note 8.

>>5035403
Mine is will be wifi it arrives tomorrow. I plan to hotspot my phone if I need a connection without wifi.

>>5036145

In addition to >>5036168

you could choose to get a galaxy book, which is a windows tablet and it comes with the spen, except you have a full desktop experience

little update on the huion pen. the step worsened to the extent that it now looks like this and i can actually feel the step when i poke my fingertip with the nib. this thing is definitely defective.

A famous artist fell prey to the Wacom merchant. He had to learn it the hard way, should have picked up a screenless display. There goes $2,500 down the drain

https://twitter.com/ClickAgain/status/1333957859378221058

>>5030346
Is the old model from picrel worth it? found it used at a good price. Or should I go for the new one?

>>5036200
lmao just in time for the 2-year warranty to expire.

>>5036236
I wouldn't buy anything used because it won't have a warranty. Every wacom I've ever bought, even new, has had problems of some kind.

fuck it, i think i'm actually just going to return the pro 16 to amazon. i thought the bigger screen would feel like an improvement but honestly i don't know why i ever felt like the 13 was small because this doesn't feel like enough of an improvement to be worth it and it actually kinda feels overly roomy like i don't need the extra space, even though it's not much. the larger screen also causes the parallax caused by the poor design of their old pen design to be more pronounced, no matter what i do i cannot get the fucker to center everywhere on the screen. in some places it actually shifts, like in the bottom center. i move the pen around to get the cursor centered, i move to a different part of the screen, and then i come back to the bottom center and the fucker is offset above the nib and no matter what i do i can't get it to come back. this fuckin sucks. sure there was some parallax with the 13 but now that i know how much worse it can be it feels like nothing, i don't think i'm going to replace my pro 13 with anything until it kicks the bucket desu, it's working fine and i regret wasting my time taking it for granted. now that i've tried an alternative that ended up sucking, i couldn't be more appreciative of it. i'm interested in screenless tablets, but i think it would be a downgrade since i'm so used to drawing right on a screen.

i've talked about the pro 16 before on this board, and maybe i got a defective one, but now that i've handled one i wouldn't recommend it. i guess get a pro 13. that's the only other display tablet i've tried and it's been working great for me so far compared to this.

>>5036270
regardless it's used or not, is the new model worse despite the better specs? /ic/ loves to shit on everything new from wacom I want your opinion

>>5036320
Yeah, the new model is worse than the older model because of the surface eating nibs like crazy. If there's nothing wrong with your used model and it doesn't run into any issues of course it will be better than a newer intuos pro (assuming you like large, personally I think that the medium is the perfect size) because you have flexiblity on buying replacement nibs and the nibs themselves won't wear down quickly. Those things tend to last a long time, however:

Common tablet issues affecting any/all wacom tablets include pen issues (for example, my wacom pens have had shoelacing/blobbing at the start of a stroke, and another pen eventually developed broken lines) and port issues for example one of my wacoms would keep losing connection at the microusb connection.

>>5036320
(cont)
Other common issues involving wacoms is that the driver may frequently die but it's easy to restart drivers with a .bat script or you may go into task manager and services and restart them manually. My old wacom bamboo would basically die once every day in terms of drivers but my newer wacom pro will only die about once a month

>>5035403
I have the LTE with wifi.

>>5036236
Yeah, it's great. The 2013 Intuos Pros are really nice.

>>5036145
Why did you keep the shitty Chinese tablet? If you don't like it just return it.

I'm looking for a screen tablet, I currently have a Deco 1 v2, I like it but I wanna make the jump because I keep wasting time on correcting my lines and stuff.
I'm stuck between the S6 Lite or a Kamvas 13.
I currently have an SM-P200, I like it a lot but its way too small for anything other than sketches. I've tried SuperDisplay on it and it works awesome, so I'm kinda leaning towards the Samsung, so i can carry it around + work on windows, but I also built my PC some time ago and it's the perfect workstation, so I don't know

>>5036170
Oh okay, I was thinking of just getting a Wifi one, but wasn't too sure about it.
>>5036368
Would it need a phone contract for LTE or are you just gonna use it Wifi Only?

Also, do you guys know if Photoshop can run on an S6 lite or should I just go for an iPad 12.9"?

>>5036704
Photoshop is not available on android as an App like on the iPad. I think it's only possible to use it when connected to windows with superdisplay.

>>5036704
I bought an S6 lite LTE version without a phone contract, and inserted my existing LTE prepaid sim for calls and texts. I still just connect to my wifi router most of the time.

What's the difference between galaxy tab S and A?

>>5036820
S is the cool premium line and A is a bargain bin line,

>>5036725
>>5036704
Photoshop on iPad is probably Dead on Arrival anyway, last I heard it's missing essential features. And desktop photoshop for me uses oof RAM. Worked on a 5000x8000 canvas and I think the psd wasn't even big. I used up something in the realm of 25 GB of RAM - that's ~14 GB of actual ram and ~11GB of SSD as scratch disk (which is used when photoshop runs out of RAM). Then that grew until I couldn't even save anymore. The ipad has, what, 6GB of RAM?

I have a Huion HS610, it only cost me around 80$ and it works perfectly fine even though it’s a cheap Chinese brand. It has a huge surface way bigger than wagons that cost more than twice as much. I’ve had it for almost two years now and it’s still working perfectly fine, no bugging no nothing, so don’t trust all the anons screeching that it’s shit, because it is cheap and Chinese. If you don’t have to bad luck and actually get a malfunctioning one, which is very rare, It should do the job just as well as a Japanese brand.

Kamvas 12 thoughts?

>>5038275
huion quality seems to be a little spotty. i have a kamvas pro 13 that i've owned for over a year and it works well for what it is. huion's pen design, the old 2.0 which i think is called the PW507 has issues staying centered on the cursor depending on how much you tilt it, but the problem seems to be less pronounced the smaller the tablet is. 13 is perfectly useable so it should be less noticeable on the 12. their new pens, the PW517 have stouter nibs which decreases the tilt parallax thing further so if you're looking at one of the tablets that comes with their newer pen then it should be fine unless you get a lemon. according to their website the regular 12 does come with the new pen, unless you were talking about the pro 12 which comes with the old pen, which still works alright. if you're getting it on amazon, you can always just send it back and get a refund if it behaves like shit.

>>5030346
i want to draw manga and i'm a beginner, my budget is probably around 350 euros and i need a tablet that would be able to browse the internet normally as well as drawing, because it's going to be a present for me and the person offering it doesn't know i want to draw with it because i hide it (and i hide that i like/buy manga), so i need a tablet that looks like it could be used for normalfag shit while being able to be used as a drawing tablet.

yes i know it sounds crazy.
any ideas ?

>>5036683
I didn't

>>5038814
retarded underage
either get over yourself or just buy one yourself
frankly nobody gives a shit if you want to draw. im not sure why you need to hide liking manga either
im not sure what "normalfag" shit you could do with a drawing tablet but surely actually drawing is probably the most normal of all

>>5038362
I have the kamvas pro 13 too, can confirm its been working perfectly except that I had to replace the stand that it came with - since it was awful.

Is Intuos 4 Medium any good? I could get an unused one for like 40 bucks from a friend who bought one years ago, never used it, and forgot it in his closet.

>>5039049
Intuos 4 is solid. $40 is a great deal for an unused one.

>>5038872
abhorrent and low quality post.
thanks for not replying correctly and making me lose valuable time reading your inane drivel.
also you're the only one underage here.

>>5039102
>no u

An iPad is what children play games and draw on, try that.

>>5039106
i bet you feel very smart.
you're not helping...

>>5039049
yes, the surface will smoothen out as you use it. also check the small menu lcds if it as dead pixel lines. still a good buy.

Anyone know how do I make my Gaomon pd1560 super responsive? I feel like default settings are way too stiff when I draw.

>>5038887
i've found the stand to be useable after some slight modifications. first, tape the bottom of the tablet to the foot of the stand. i don't know why they designed it to so easily fall off, the morons. second, the angle range is lackluster since i sometimes find it comfortable to slump down in my chair very far, like my back is where my ass should be and i'm resting my head against where my back should be, so i bent some thick wire into one of the shape of the included inserts, except this one is taller. the highest angle it can sit at now is i think about 75 degrees, so depending on how i feel like sitting, i can swap out the large wire between the included one if i feel like sitting normally, or the homemade one if i'm feeling lazy. the pro 16 i tried recently came with a different type of stand. i don't know if they replaced all of their new stands of that type with the new type or if it's only for the larger ones, but i hated the design since i couldn't figure out an easy way to modify it for taller angles like i did with this. this isn't as sleek looking of a design but it's far more DIY friendly.

>>5038814
Pretending not to draw is weird, but for that price range and desire to web browse and do other stuff with it, Galaxy Tad S6 is probably your best if not only option.

>>5039502
well not everyone was born in an open minded family, if they knew it i'd probably be mocked.
it was extremely hard to make them accept that i liked videogames when i was a kid and they still remind me of the fact as an adult so imagine with manga and anime...

btw you're talking about the Galaxy Tab S6 ?
i see a normal version at 699 euros and a Lite version at around 310 euros.
is the Lite version sold with the pen and is it decent ?

>>5039535
They are right, though. And you're not wrong either.

>>5039535
I understand making fun of someone for liking and drawing manga (It's shitty, but I've seen it), but are they against drawing in general? If they aren't, do you draw anything they don't find weird?

And you're right, I meant the Lite. It does come with the pen, and it should be pretty good. I have a Note 8 phone and a Galaxy Tab S7+ tablet, and the S6 Lite uses the same pen tech as both of those. 4gb of RAM means you'll be able to use fewer layers, but it's still pretty solid.

It's higher specs than my old Note 4 that I had before the 8, and I used to draw on that a lot.

>>5039554
nobody knows i'm drawing.
one of them already noticed i sometimes read manga, already said it was stupid and for kids and that's supposed to be the most open minded one of the two but at least he kept his mouth shut.
each time they pass near my computer i'm alt-tabbing because each time they say stop playing those stupid games and i should grow up, they even bought the "videogames make you violent" meme, they once threw a tantrum because i dared using a mic to play a multiplayer game, since then i never touched a mic again.
i only draw when no one is looking and as a general rule i keep my hobby to myself, only my otaku sister is aware (of the hobby, not the drawings).
my country is under lockdown currently and i have to stay there everyday, so i only draw during the late evening or the night, and i only have pens and A4 paper, i like it but it's not enough, also i miss the manga collection i'm hiding under my bed at my other place since i can't go there for now.
it sounds crazy but i'm dead serious also i'm somewhat autistic, i'm aware.

so that's why i need a tablet like this, i'll probably take a real drawing tablet one day if i can somehow make them accept it, or i'll hide it anyway.
btw does the LITE come with the right programs to draw or do you have recommendations ?

>>5039581
No way you are over 18 years old.

>>5030505
I got this for 200 bucks by some guy who didn't know what to do with it ... was still new in the box.

What can I say ... for the price it's pretty good (you can get the 22 inch version for about 400 too these days) ... display is ok, too and the pen feels comfortable, although not as good as the Wacom one, but so what. The turning wheel is a dream and I rarely need my keyboard when using it.

Only issue: drivers!
They often don't work when you wake up your pc from energy saving mode. Also I use the pen and see the pointer move on my main monitor although projection is set correctly.
Just pull the USB plug and reconnect and it loads up fine.
You can also use it like a normal tablet when there's no HDMI cable connected.

In my opinion, it only has two major issues: After every driver update my preferences get deleted and the second is the screen brightness which is set to the same after every start.

All in all, it's fine, but such a thing doesn't make your art better, you're just a little bit faster that's all.

>>5039593
yet i am, there's plenty of people like me on 4chan sometimes worse off than me.
just sucks to be autistic bro.

>>5031804
>>5031262

XP Pen isn't that bad.
Sure combining it all Wacom is more reliable, but seriously, just look at the prices and you know what's going on.

Other pen display manufacturers get more and more popular these days and I can understand why. Quality is getting better and displays become cheaper.

The only thing Wacom really is wayyyy superior are the drivers. This is essential for professionals that do art for a living.
Don't know about iPad stuff though, never used one. I wouldn't though cause it's too expensive.

For a hobbyist painter, scribbler and for digital doodling an XP Pen or similar pen display is completely sufficient.

>>5039102
i did answer your question
it was a dumb question so im not sure what you were expecting.
like the other anon said, if you want a drawing tablet but dont want to give it away that youre drawing because you're a legitimate retard, just get an ipad or galaxy tablet

>>5039581
I mostly use Artflow. It's simple and has a good interface for a small screen. I'm trying to get into Infinite Painter more. A lot of folks really like it, and it has a similarly minimal interface.

Those are the ones I'd check out first if you feel at all cramped on the 10 inch screen.

If you feel like you could give a bit more screen space to the interface, Medibang has a lot of features. I've been playing with it since I got my tablet recently, and it seems quite good. Clip Studio Paint is also really popular, but it's a monthly subscription fee. You get a 6 month trial if you get a Galaxy device, though, and without the trial you can use it for free for an hour a day, which may be alright if you have very little time for drawing.

Personally, I keep going back to Artflow, but that's probably mostly because I'm used to it, cause I don't usually see it ranked terribly high against the others in lists of "best drawing apps". It doesn't have the fancier brush blending features some of the other apps do, but if you're looking for drawing more than digital painting, it's pretty solid.

Also, if you have a PC, You can use an android device as a pen display like a Cintiq with an app call Super Display. It's like 10 bucks, but it works pretty well in my experience, and you can try it out for 3 days before buying to make sure it works for you.

>>5039600
no adult male would have such childish concerns. if you're aware that they're autistic you should be capable of overcoming it

>>5039535
I've been drawing in secret for so many years just because asian parents are so autistic.

>>5039723
yeah i have a PC, i'm planning to use it too, especially to use some functions to zoom in and modify stuffs, delete some lines, Super Display sounds good.
it's all for drawing, i won't do painting.

>>5039121
An iPad is the second most recommended drawing device on this board and most of the internet over 20 seconds of Google.

>>5039600
>sucks to be autistic
Everyone on the internet is autistic, you're not special or sympathetic for it.
>i-i-its a secret!!!!
>worried about what parents think
You're underage.

>>5039740
haha no, it's easy for you to say that but i'm pretty much socially inept, at least i've overcomed my inability to even speak to a cashier.

also it seems i'm not the only austist in this thread.

>>5039753
I'm Asian and myself and pretty much every Asian i know draws. as a hobby, but still
you just have a complex. the word you were looking for was strict not autistic but still no asian parents actually care if you have a hobby
sure i wont show my parents my lewd art or me watching yuru Yuri. but they're well aware i draw and watch Japanese cartoons
>>5039770
i really hate underage faggots like you. being a retard isn't an excuse

>>5039765
>You're underage.
i'm a semi-NEET and autistic adult.
you never met someone like this on this website of all place ?

>Ipad
i don't even know which one and they're all expensive as fuck.
also i came here for more solid advices, not for some general tips.

>>5039760
Take this from someone in the same boat
the problem with tablets with a screen is that, depending on how autistic people are, people can sneak up behind you and chances are you're distracted. And it's also immediately obvious if your tablet is on in front of your computer and the true autistics will start kicking up a fuss asking why your tablet is on. You also need a pen, I believe, and they can start connecting the dots that pen + tablet = drawing and they can get mad.

If you can normalise them with a screenless tablet constantly connected and are always at a pc/laptop located out of the line of their sight, it can be a lot easier to get away with drawing. And what I always do is stay up as late as possible drawing, eg I sometimes got away with drawing between 12 AM and 2AM on top of whenever they are away. Benefit of screen tablet is primarily when you're away

>>5039776
My parents hated me drawing so much they staged an intervention years back to ensure that I stopped taking commissions. Since then, I've never been able to get another commission. Any time they catch me drawing, I get yet another passive aggressive snide lecture about how drawing is a worthless waste of my time.

Fuck asian parents, man.

>>5039785
i'm away half of the year (basically half of the days of each weeks) and i setup up my computer in such a way that they can't know what's connected to it (i have a desktop and the laptop close to it so i think i can put the tablet near the laptop and hide the pen, btw i use the laptop when i'm away) also it's in a room where you have to climb stairs so i would hear them anyway.
so a screen probably isn't a problem in that case.

>drawing between 12 AM and 2AM

literally me.

>>5039799
that's not asian parents. your parents are just shit

>>5039785
Galaxy Tab comes with a pen buy default. Plenty of folks who don't draw get them just because they're good tablets. They just happen to also come with a pen, and a lot of folks say the pen is great for hand writing notes and such.

The pen also attaches to the side of the tablet with a magnet when you aren't using it, and honestly since it's there I frequently navigate my S7+ with the pen instead of my finger just because the precision is nice.

I feel like a Galaxy Tab offers a pretty good amount of deniability.

>>5039799
What would they prefer you to do with your leisure time?

>>5039802
If you paint facing the door that would work very well. I've always been sneaked up from behind despite being on the second floor because of the fucking carpet, holy shit.

>>5039823
i have wooden stairs and the back of my computer screen is facing the stairs from 2/3 meters, so the stairs crack all the time when someone is climbing, i've never been sneaked up except when i alt-tab too slowly.
maybe you could try setting up a mirror so you know when someone is climbing ?

>>5039833
That's a great idea actually

Is there a good reasonably priced stand for Cintiq 24 Pro? Or an arm?

does xp pen have a live chat support or do i have to email?

We need some big brain to create a tablet that supports the overhand grip

>>5039857
The ergotron lx holds it no problem, youll need a vesa adapter though because ((((((wacom)))))) hates you going 3rd party. Its a bit of metal for 80 bucks

>>5039780
You're a child who can't Google.

Any iPad that runs Procreate. Even the 2018 model thats about 250us. >>5039799
>listening to parents instead of living your own life.
So you're cucking yourself and you want sympathy? /soc/ is to the right.
>>5039860
Email. It can take a few days for a response tho.

>>5039895
>any ipad can run procreate
Yeah, it can run an old shit version of procreate, you Apple Troon. Neck yourself.

5039895
>it can take a few days for a response
That's what you get when you pay for chink, cope harder retard

>>5039895
rip. i dont have an actual complaint to make so its all good

>>5039914
Every model currently sold by Apple can run the latest version.

I was the one who suggester the Tab S6 Lite, and that was largely because it comes with the pen without dropping an extra hundred dollars. Granted, that comes to about the same total price, but if you're trying to pretend to your parents that you don't draw, asking for an additional purchase of $100 for a stylus is sus as fuck.

>>5036725
>>5036990
Aw shit, I love using Photoshop, but desu I just wanted to grab a tablet that I could just draw on the go or just sit down on a comfy area and chill.

Would you guys still recommend the Samsung S6? I'd still like to get it and get a good app on it to be honest.

>>5036764
Ah okay, fairs enough. I'll just grab the WiFi one if I do get one. What do you think of it, do you like using it? Or would you prefer something else?

Why does using these things suck so much shit? I have no problem using paper or canvas with a variety of mediums but I swear I have fucking parkinson's with this thing.

>>5040080
Git gud.

I want to use my wacom tablet as a mouse because tendons, will that shorten the tablet's life? It's an old model, ctl460, but it's barely used. Do drawing tablets live long?

>>5040065
The main consider is whether you'll be comfy on a 10.4" screen. The S6 Lite is quite capable for its price.

IPad also has Affinity Design and Affinity Photo, which is supposed to be pretty familiar if you're coming from Adobe.

I went with the Galaxy Tab S7+, and I'd say both that the apps available for Android are quite good and continually improving, and that if you have a PC with software you already like such as Photoshop you can use Super Diaplay to connect an Android table to a PC as a pen display.

>>5040104
nothing wrong with that, wacom tablets are plenty durable.

>>5030346
Sorry I'm an Australian newfag retard who doesn't know anything about drawing tablets, but is this a good screen drawing tablet? Can anyone recommend this/tell me if it's literal dogshit? I really just want a tablet with a screen, and I can actually afford this. This looked good, but I'm not sure because I know nothing about tablets.

>>5040104
I have been using my wacom as a mouse since the dawn of time and have no issues. I highly suggest slapping a plastic folder or sleeve over the top of it though, to avoid scratching it/using up the nib just in case

>>5040482
i've only used the huion pro 13 so that's all i can recommend, as it works fine. i don't know how much it costs compared to that one since you're looking at australian dollars, but it looks like that listing doesn't include a stand. you're gonna want a stand. do not ever buy a display tablet without a stand unless you already own a stand.

also i don't know how true this anecdote is, but i've heard that xp-pen makes better plain tablets than huion, whereas huion have better display tablets, so if you want a non-display tablet at a budget go for xp-pen and if you want a budget display tablet, get a huion. it's just an anecdote i've heard.

>>5040503
Great, that helps a lot, thank you

>>5040503
Oh also the XP-pen thing does come with a stand, so that's nice

>>5040538
Stand is rather useless. Id much rather see an embedded kickstand like wacom has.

t. owner of XP-Pen artist pro 15.6

Just got the S6 lite up and running. It's small, It's the same size as a wacom S. I have krita running on it right now and I can work with it solo without connecting it to my PC. It has a lot less latency than I expected and haven't had any problems with ram yet.
Small screen is my only complaints I'm a bigger dude and I can see this causing some strain for me in the future so if you are above 6ft pass on it and save up for something with a larger screen. The pen is also really tiny. But generally worth the $250 I paid for it.

>>5040613
when you say embedded kickstand, are you referring to the shitty little legs that come out of the back of the smaller cintiqs, akin to the legs that come on the back of keyboards? because if you're talking about that, those are a joke and i can't understand how anyone would find it to be a fulfilling solution that doesn't leave a lot to be desired.

>>5040625
I think they mean the VESA mount.
XP haven't started integrating those in anything smaller than a 22" so far. I think a couple of the Kamvas 16s are VESA compatible and artisul has a nice sturdy stand that's just like the cintiq one.

>>5040632
well yes then i would agree a vesa mount is always going to be better, but i think it's stupid to state that stands are "rather useless". is something that doesn't have the greatest build quality, but will still nonetheless put your tablet at a comfortable 45 degree angle, is that not better just not having a stand at all and having to draw on it sitting flat on a desktop? if my tablet didn't come with a stand, i either would have bought a 3rd party stand likely meant for stuff like ipads and android tablets, or i would have made one myself out of something, which are all worse options than the tablet just coming with a stand, even if it's mediocre.

is there a clip studio app crack for android yet

>>5040785
I have never ever seen a single CSP or PS crack for any android or iOS device period. Think about it, you literally need to cheat the inapp purchase of google and apple in order to so

>>5040802
most people don't understand how cracks work, they just follow the instructions until the thing works.

>>5040818
Also, fact of the matter is 99% of artists are technologically retarded, so the fact that any cracks already exist at all is a miracle

>>5040820
eh, i don't know if i'd say that. isn't cracking software a hobby unto itself? pretty sure most stuff that gets cracked, the crack isn't developed by a person who needed it cracked for their own personal purpose of using it, they just cracked it because cracking is what they do. if they crack something because it's popular, there are plenty of artists and there's plenty of demand for stuff like photoshop, so if they'd rather crack something that's going to get their crack used by a lot of people rather than some obscure thing nobody will use, then art software fulfills that motive plenty. you say cracking mobile CSP seems like an impossible task, that just sounds like a great challenge to overcome and it would give them a lot of credit if everyone says it can't be done but they figured out a way to do the impossible.

so there are those two motivations.
1. the thing being cracked is popular, so a lot of people will use your crack, gaining you recognition
2. the thing being cracked is difficult to crack, so if you can do the impossible everyone will suck your dick over how great you are at cracking.

>>5040830
It's different when a phone app is involved because it often involves confirming the receipts serverside and trying to examine the runtime of an app is much more difficult to achieve on a phone than it is a computer. Also the majority of people who make cracks, I believe, make them in order to distribute malware

Just use krita it works well enough and use a screen mirroring program if you want to use your desktop programs like virtual tablet or super display I think there is a third one but I'm not sure.

>>5040847
>>5040785
I haven't figured out how to use 4chan on the tablet yet.

>>5040838
i think you misunderstand me. i wasn't saying it could be done, i'm one of the 99% technologically retarded so i don't even know, it's not up to me to say. i was just saying
>the fact that any cracks already exist at all is a miracle
well no because the people using the art software aren't the people cracking the art software. the people cracking it do it because cracking stuff is entertainment for them, or for distributing malware like you said, they both sound plausible to me. they don't give a shit that it's an art program, it's just a software locked with DRM that a lot of people want to use for free.
the people using the art software just want the thing to work so they can draw and make it someday.

anyways, back to talking about tablets.

>>5040847
in my experience, CSP works much better than krita, it's more stable and more feature rich. it goes on sale all the time for i think it was $25.

>>5040862
For android though. If it doesn't function at full capacity then there would be less of a reason to use it over krita on a tablet in a standalone setting.

Unless the license carries over from the desktop version to android, I'm just going to mirror my pc to the tablet and use the desktop version of csp. Which I initially planed to do and use krita when not around my pc.

>>5040879
oh, i didn't know there was an android version of krita

>>5040625
On XP-Pen Artist Pro 15.1" the "stand" is as much of a joke as these shitty little legs.
>>5040653
It does not put the tablet nowhere close to 45°
20* is the only angle the stand can be set to.

>>5040880
Why did you think I was posting my shit art in this thread? That's the android krita.
>>5040847

>>5039616
Wacom drivers are shit, though. This is widely known. Each windows update and each driver update almost always tanks their tablets.

>>5040802
>Think about it, you literally need to cheat the inapp purchase of google and apple in order to so
you really don't. even if you had to, there are ways to spoof signatures, used by eg microg, but that requires patches at the os level.

>>5041154
fake iaps, file editing and mods used to be the most popular methods and then memory hacking and now finally pretty much everything has a server side edit

>>5041154
*server side check

>>5030819
I remember when their cheap bamboo tablets had an eraser and tablet buttons + a scroll wheel and their nibs lasted multiple years.

>>5040242
Oh! I mean I'm a small person with small hands so a 10.4" screen will be fine - I own a Cintiq 13HD so I enjoy smaller screens to be honest.

I could always just have a look at the apps Android offers and see what there is.

Thank you though!

got my first tablet, cant wait to be a pro

For you galaxy tablet users SuperScreen works too well. It's so crazy good the pressure input works perfectly. Latency is there but it's smoother than using the tablet by itself.

>>5042211
You mean superDisplay?

>>5041927
Check out the S6 Lite.

>>5042078
You have done well

>>5041255
huh?

>>5040851
Why not?

>>5040862
CSP does not have more features than Krita.

>>5042478
Yes, I'm a retard. SuperDisplay is what I meant.

>>5040785
Why? It's free for 6 months.

>>5032651
No

>>5040880
Old news.

New thread

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>>5032232
>suck to draw on
Why?

>>5033929
just got it a few hours ago
my first impressions so far are pretty damn good. the screen is a little smaller than my ipad, but i got used to it fairly quickly. biggest issue i have at the moment is that the palm rejection on this thing is noticeably worse than the ipad's