/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5023235
i couldn't feel it

Woops, posted in the old thread. i know the body and limbs are fucked, but i'm pretty happy with how the head/face turned out. definitely one of my better attempts at the "anime" style.

Going through Brent Eviston's figure drawing course right now
I have legit no idea what I'm doing, and I'm feeling my brain getting fried trying to analyze the refs and placing down action lines within a certain time limit.

>>5023397
>brain getting fried trying to analyze the refs
YES ANON, YOUR BRAIN IS FEELING THE FORMS! YOU MUST CONTINUE

>>5023372
Looks good anon wanon boo. Don’t worry if you don’t feel confident about your gesture drawings in a short period of time, it takes quite a lot of practice to get down but it’s very helpful to learn. Next time you draw characters I’m sure you’ll think of gesture and they’ll turn out pretty nicely

>>5023406
lel, I hope you're right. Gesture/figure drawing seems like a lot of fun though once you get used to it. Rendering the figure seems even more fun.

>>5023386
remember your body proportions, where you place the crotch makes the torso looks long and the legs looks skinny.

>>5023420
noted. thx!

Cute pumpkin

bros how do i give my creepy bride a background
also please give general crit on sketch

daily watercolor, up to #30 now. any advice on making figures still look good when they're really tiny? I already paint small (this one is the size of a playing card) but I hate how the two figures look like minecraft skins.

>>5023462
Fuck I got brainfog I can't do that
Are these all books/methods?

Also I saw "rendering" mentioned on this board, but afaik it's a 3D thing, do I need to get into that if I want to stand a chance on this market?

hOW HOW ARRRRGH remember to enjoy music sometimes when you draw
https://youtu.be/45AYpiiOd9I

>>5023491
you really should post in /salt/ or something, you're not beg at this point

>>5023491
Ive been listening to this kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1mUiAjHzAI

>>5023420
how's the crotch now? Maybe a lil too high? idk

drew some coomerbait gijinkas. Trying out rendering here in different styles but really need to go study it instead.

Eventually wanna earn some coomer bucks. So lemme know if you think this is appealing at all, or what sucks about it.

How can i paint the background. Anyone has a tutorial?

>>5023491
>>5023503
>>5023505
real coomer hours

>>5023508
don't try to escape the coom, embrace it.

>>5023512
i will once i learn

>>5023499
better, just stand up and look at where your crotch is in relation with your pants/shorts if you are unsure.

>>5023366
Is it me or /beg/ threads descriptions has been getting cuts the more it is created

First time with painting with no lines

Started doing organic forms now. Not sure Im putting the contour lines in the right place. Do I just have to keep doing it till I "feel" it?

>>5023494
I can hardly draw hands or heads or

You have 5 minutes to define what a beginner artist is

>>5023528
Not feeling the form.

>>5023528
Cant feel Form. Cant draw in 3D. Poor understanding of primary fundies. Symbol Drawing. Chicken Scratch/messy lines.

>>5023542
Poor is... subjective

>>5023550
>suck at primary fundies

>>5023560
I didn't know you could make him even more unappealing with such genuine sincerity, but there you go, doing exactly that.

>>5023564
hey just because you got caught rigging an election and you'll have to live under trump for 4 more years doesn't mean you have to be so salty over on ic. leave that salt and bigotry over at pol where it belongs.

>>5023499
Use your belly button and treasure trail as landmark. I don't think mine capture the original pose.
>>5023560
Look nice
>>5023564
It's just a painting. Don't have to be ass-blasted.

>>5023581
>use your belly button and treasure trail as landmark
good tip, thx

How to render

>>5023589
kyle fan?

>>5023591
Not him but who the hell is kyle

can we have a /beg/ lounge discord

>>5023564

>>5023599
make it and ill join

>>5023598
an artist i'm a fan of.

>>5023604
Well If i look up kyle artist im not gonna find jack shit, whats his full artist name

>>5023598
Some artist that posts here sometimes and people wank over him

>>5023599
>>5023602
This sounds awful. Just post in the thread.

>>5023523
try drawing the back side a few times. it helped me.

>>5023599
>>5023602
>kill an already slow thread

>>5023491
I don't think you can rotate the feet like that

>>5023629
Depends on which way your knees are facing, then your foot has some slight rotation. The perspective is probably off but I’m up to see how it can be improved

>>5023528
someone who make beginners mistakes

>>5023629
Actually I see it now, I really need to sort out the leg

>>5023620
I started doing the dissection exercise and it makes so much more sense to me. Makes me understand why he had us draw circles and eclipses inbetween horizontal lines, it really helps visualize what youre actually trying to do.

i drew everything but the face but im so fucking lazy i cba to finish it but i still like it

>>5023660
>too lazy to draw a face
>in a fucking portrait

>>5023663
it kept coming out cringe so i said fuck it

I think the leg is a bit better now
>>5023660
>>5023665
EMBRACE THE CRINGE
I remember when I was just starting to draw again, someone would comment on multiple of my drawings on twitter saying they’re ugly, I do same face etc. that felt really bad, it was another artist from 4chan who decided to bother me for some reason

>>5023668
nah i fucking love my portraits and am super proud of my progress but just today it kept looking super weird so i didnt force it, but thank you for the encouragement :) btw the hands are too big that bitch got some meat claws

I can't do this

>>5023660
4 mins. Have fun with your pencils mon.

>>5023670
Was about to edit that
I’ll be redrawing this soon anyway with a bit more attention to detail now

>>5023564
>>5023600
Oh right, art is purely apolitical I forgot. I’m sorry. Just gotta grab em’ by the form.

>>5023591
No, I just did what I thought looked right.

>>5023681
I just noticed her finger placement is all wrong aaaaa

>>5023673
draw through the form retard.

>>5023691
How about I shit on your fucking mother? Don't talk to me like that. Look, sweetheart, whatever you think you're trying to tell me, I already know it, thing is, I just can't do it neither can I figure it out, it's been almost a month since I did this and I don't like doing it because I don't have the spark for it.

>>5023694
Schizo hour?

>>5023695
schizo hour!!!

>>5023695
I'm not your toy robot anymore, now can you make yourself useful and actually tell me what the fuck is going on? This pic is from a while ago, I don't know the date.
I understand nothing about the form, can't grasp it.

>>5023694
You can’t even draw faces lol

Tick tock,
it's shizo o'clock

>>5023678
absolute soul anon thank you

>>5023694
>I already know it, thing is, I just can't do it neither can I figure it out

just comes with time but iktf

>>5023698
Im stilling trying to learn but when drawing contour lines try drawing around the entire form. Think about to the exercise where you drew a bunch of circles and eclipses in horizontal lines, apply that to your forms.
Also start way simplier then that, just do a bunch of tube and slingy shapes. You can see what I mean best on the two shapes above the pumpkin. Rest are either okay or bad

>>5023684
Political art is the gayest fucking faggot shit on earth, and anyone who unironically does that deserves to have their art skills sucked out of them like a vacuum.

>>5023698
think of it as a solid, youre just drawing in lines to define them in space, if you still feel like a have trouble do what anon says >>5023691 and also create shadows
>>5023713
I think derailing the thread like (you) deserves it as well

Trying again, this is not fun at all but whatever, I want to get done with the fundies and get to the sweet stuff
>>5023709
Extremely frustrating sensation.
>>5023710
I liked yours, made me remember that I should try this again, and drawing through the form, I think that's doing the full motion in 3d but only marking one side, I think I got it on the two at the bottom, I like those.

>>5023560
group your values dude

>>5023580
>>5023600
lmfao cope

>>5023717
I am unmoveable. I am unhinderable. I am unfuckable. You can not win. I am strong

>>5023717
like a solid, I can't grasp it as of now, how can I fix that? Is that even normal?
>>5023719
the two at the bottom, getting better or same bullshit?

>>5023725
You are also pretty autistic LOL

>>5023729
I actually posted that in the wrong thread on the wrong board, believe it or not

Am I at least trying to think of it like a solid? Starting to?
>>5023523
Copied some of yours, hope you don't mind.

What is the Loomis method of drawing a vehicle? Meaning how do I break it down to its simplest form and then build off of that? How about the proportions of it? How do I get it right?
Example, I want to draw this.

Bought an iPad pro and did a quick sketch. Holy shit, it feels so good to draw, and I'm having so much fun with it.

>>5023694
Check whether this shit stuck up your butt.

Drawing hats are really darn hard. Hope this looks right
>>5023740
Did you get the 12.9? I’ve been wondering if I should sell my air 3 and buy the fourth gen but I’m doing mental gymnastics over why I shouldn’t and should. The size, power and framerate upgrade looks really nice to me right now

>>5023737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXn979hRyIs

>>5023753
Yep, 12.9". It's the size of A4 and it's just amazing.

>>5023757
Kino..... might get it if I see a sale persist this Friday or Monday. Been seeing it for 900

Piccaso is my idol. The Crayola pastels are the best I've used thus far, but I feel they're holding me back. I'm considering getting some Sennelier oil pastels.

>>5023760
This is my first iPad, so I can't compare it with others, try it in stores and see how you feel. I've been using Wacom Intuos Pro before and it just didn't feel fun.
Doing this course right now: https://www.schoolism.com/digital-art-classes/procreate-nikolai-lockertsen.. It blows my mind how much convenience is out there. I've been grinding figures for 2 months on paper with a pencil, so this is a whole new world for me now.

>>5023751
I think I can get something out of this, thanks, think of it as a solid. But for real, what am I missing? Experience? Mileage?

another scuffed boxer. tried to do a flicker jab thing

>>5023769
The forms you draw must already occupy a 3D space in your mind, you draw contours to simply make it more apparent.

>>5023727
>like a solid, I can't grasp it as of now, how can I fix that? Is that even normal?
Definitely within time, literally everything in art is just optical illusions pretty much you just have to know that its there in space and think it as that. its the reason why anime faces has dots for noses or something similar to that extent and still be viewed as a nose to the viewer

>>5023776
Well, they don't. Look at whatever that is in the middle of a cock, I know that's there and I would do the same line, one that flows and sticks out to show it but it's not convincing, I just don't think I think in forms.
>>5023783
I should be doing it already, others are doing it already on here, could there be something wrong as to why I can't think like that or feel the form

>>5023776
>>5023783
Am I feeling the form in this drawing? Thinking about solid objects?

>>5023796
>>5023776
>>5023783
What about this?

Bit off more than I can chew with this for sure. I think I'm done with it for now, I'm kind of sick of looking at it and it looks like a blur of random colours to me now.

>>5023751
Look at this drawing of a penis, outstanding form, you truly can feel it and grasp it on a 3d level, it has volume.
>>5023794
This is lackluster practice.

>>5023560
Contrast adjusted a bit

>>5023754
Thanks, will watch. Here is what I drew.

>>5023803
very cute

>>5023751
and again, this is way easier with pencil rather than ink

>>5023800
just a /beg/ helping a fren can't give any redlines, but your hands looks pretty flat to me, good work on the heads though

>>5023826
Heres my attempt. Made it a wee bit crooked

>>5023821
what you want to do is think about any car you draw in terms of wheel lengths and wheel heights, and draw a straight line for the ground so the wheels are all on the ground.

what i mean by wheel length and height is all the wheels are the same size so think of the wheel as a measuring unit. how many wheels tall is your vehicle? how many wheel lengths are between the wheels? how many wheel lengths is the whole vehicle? people on here will tell you to look up scott robertson. when they say that it means they dont have a clue how to draw vehicles and they are just repeating what others have said. he's good but he gets into so much technical detail. its overwhelming and unnecessary.

>>5023751
>>5023826
>>5023809
>>5023794
1. Use tone/colored paper for practicing this.
2. Make the outline thicker than the contour lines.
3. Use white pen for the highlight/edges.
Your practices look pretty good already. Your weak point is getting crestfallen to quickly. More practice and less whining.

>>5023836
You'll rarely find a straight dick.

>>5023836
>>5023826
>>5023794
>>5023751
>/beg/ - contours of the penis

Ok last time I post this unless someone would like to see it when it’s done on Friday
I redrew her foot to get it a little more proper, maybe I’ll try fixing it more one more time before line art and color, heckin hard

>>5023859
stop! stop! He's already dead!

>>5023869
IT IS TOO LATE
I PRESENT
THE PEAK PERFORMANCE OF CONTOUR DICKS

>>5023775
Never seen a boxer throw a perpendicular punch, look at refs from mma or boxing comps

>>5023841
>https://youtu.be/2ivOcwlt9Dc
I need a ruler and need to draw bigger, but I will try with boxes and some of that perspective stuff he talked about and a few methods he mentioned as well. But I got a clearer picture now.

>>5023836
>>5023859
>>5023876
https://exhentai.org/g/1504979/ad4cbbddf6/

>>5023897
>How to draw the penis book
Are you fucking serious

>>5023897
Extremely based.

>>5023910
New to Japanese work brother?

>>5023897
Man I dont want to draw penises I just thought id be funny to try drawing one along with the other lads.

>>5023910
There are Japanese how to guides for drawing everything.
Recently I was browsing through this one which is a guide to drawing middle aged men. If you can't read moonrunes I'll just point out that it specifically assumes a female reader which I thought was pretty funny.

>>5023897
Arigato! I will definitely use this

Why does this place always turn so gay

>>5023948
It's not gay if I want to draw guys getting fucked by futas

Hey guys I just grabbed my wacom tablet for virtually the first time and tried to draw sonic by memory. How bad am I?

>>5023959
Thats even more gay then two male gay porn.

>>5023948
>waa mommy they posted penis again

>>5023961
soul

>>5023965
Shut up, FREAK

>>5023961
My tablet is a CTL460. it's an old model, will it hold me back?

>>5023973
No

>>5023985
Tomorrow I will try to draw by looking at a reference model - a tranny escort posing naked. Wish me luck

>>5023973
Te achei, anão.

>>5023994
Achou minha rola

>>5024003
Eu sei quem você é, fica esperto.

I should have used an easier ref, still enjoyed it.
>>5023754
and I should have seen this before attempting it

>>5024008
Vai fazer o quê, me mandar um email?

>>5024008
Eu também sei quem eu sou kkkk

>>5023994
>>5024003
>>5024008
>>5024010
>>5024012
Spiku Enrisu

>>5024019
Uhh?

>>5024019
sorry mr ling zhang fu

Just curious, this vagina is way too high, right? Not my work, just saw this and I dont think the vagina should be visible at this angle

>>5024038
lol why. Go look at an anatomy chart dingus

finished

>>5024051
OOOOOOOOOOGAWAAGAGAGA OBOBOBGOBGOOGB GAHHH AWOBOOOOOOOOO LABARABABABABOOBOBOBO BOBOBOBOBOBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>5024053
thanks anon

>>5024051
I want to shove my Howitzer inside her shell cashing

>>5024050
Well considering how thick her thigh is I dont think you should be able to see it at all, the bagina is generally very low and a lot of porn artists tend to put it way to high

>>5024051
Careful with the pussy size, it’s too large. Also the eyes are kinda derpy, I shoulda probably pointed this stuff out earlier gomenasai
I go sleep my tum hurts

I still feel like I always fuck up the head shape with gesture

Based on a ref of someone falling in a Zero Gravity Airplane.
I know its not perfect but I just need to know if this is adequate and okay looking, perhaps even good.
Hiding mistakes behind stylization is bad practice but its game time and I need to make something cool with the skills I have right now.

Thanks!

>>5024038
I think the artist knows, but he needs to make the hoo-ha visible for his audience.

>>5023366
i was told to work on measuring and light/shadow.
is this close? pic is different than last time.

Decided to try my hand at perspective after watching some videos of a dude wandering around Japan. Sketched it out first, but kept fucking up or realizing where I went wrong, that creates a cascade of errors later. Also tried to ink it. Another learning experience with confidence and shaky hands and such. It’s so permanent. Over all it was fun, and I have a respect for architects and background designers like I did back when I took architecture in highschool. I was always bad at straight lines.

>>5024190
ref

>>5024190
Did you make sure to set up a horizon line first? The perspective wasn't done well.

>>5024197
No shit its not done well, kekw. I put down what I thought was the horizon line, but I think I got lost in the details. I probably should have used a ruler.

>>5024204
Lmao did you reference the grey sketch tranny

>>5024204
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGHGH BOGOGOGHFHDDFG
i don't want thicc
i want thin loli
cute loli
i'll keep training
my perfect lolis will exist someday

>>5024217
>>5024213
also FUCC HANDS

>>5023897
God dang it, how do you get into ex hentai again

>>5024236
Clear cookies. Log into forum. Then go to website.

>>5024236
1. Make an account on e-hentai forum, wait a week.
2. Clean chrome browsing data (everything to besure)
3. Log in your account at ehentai forum
4. Type exhentai (don't type exhentai.org. Will not work)
5. Click on the search result and voila.

>>5024259
>>5024255
/beg/ can’t give crit, but they sure know how to help a brother out when it counts.

decided to do drawabox wish me luck lads

>>5024255
>>5024259
Thanks.

>>5024269
I like it so far, the tunnels are a good warm-up. I need to stop being a blockhead and sit down for the perspective.

>>5023775
If you want to draw mma then focus less on the arms and more on the hips/spine/legs. Just getting the pose down is half the battle.

No fighter poses like that

>>5023819
looks better

>>5023819
SAD!

Hello i did this form and shadow exercise , does it look like understand or i'm missing something ?
thanks

>>5024300
the bean kicked in

>>5024264
/beg/ can only coom

I just started "drawing from the right side of the brain" and I think it's motivating me more than anything else has. As a /beg/ myself i like to look at other /beg/ artwork on here and ask myself if I can find anything about it that can be logically explained as to why it's bad or "off", but so often that I end up concluding is that the artist just needs to stop skipping fundamentals and learn some theory because the thing that is wrong with their art is everything. You can tell someone an arm they drew is out of perspective to help, but the help they might actually need might be failing to conceptualize what creating correct art looks or feels like. I think people should recommend this book more often here as a prerequisite to Loomis or Vilppu because what they might need to know is how to view art as an artist before grinding boxes and ovals has any practical benefit. Just some pre-bed thoughts.

>>5024319
pyw

murio el diegote :(

Anons, how do you force yourself to just draw something? How do you stop yourself from just starting over constantly?
I try to develop a fuck it attitude like others suggested when drawing but the constant thought that it's never good enough always overtakes any reasonable thought, and I need to start from scratch and I end up erasing it. I just want to draw something to it's completion. I don't want to waste days overthinking about what pose this character should be in anymore. I want to have fun while drawing again.

Can’t sleep too excited for Thanksgiving I still don’t understand construction not that you guys can tell you always say it’s incomprehensible because too many lines.

>>5024333
cute

Grandma
>>5023938
Modeseven/Nitrotitan fan?

>>5024394
Grandpa

>>5023926
link me this one thanks

Haven’t been here for a while. Dors Resizebro still post here?

>>5024433
https://exhentai.org/g/1500181/3828ba8b24/
https://exhentai.org/g/1498965/f28d1d81d7/
https://exhentai.org/g/1498099/200882b7e5/

>>5024433
https://exhentai.org/g/1509504/14e9fe897c/
https://exhentai.org/g/1498102/7eb2576171/

>>5024462
>>5024474
>links are dead

>>5024478
Links are fine. Just use g.e-hentai instead aka copy /g/................... etc

>>5024478
replace the x with a hyphen, you pitiful normalfaggot

>>5023938
>BOI PUSSSYYY AAAAA MUST COOOOOOOOOM!

>>5024487
>pussy

>>5024394
Loomis severely lacked grandmas

>>5024204

>>5023961

Is it okay to just study humans from references? Seen quite a few resources recommend using a mirror, or drawing your own hand or whatever, but I'm deformed as fuck due to Acromegaly and don't have actual human proportions. Using an actual model is a bit difficult now as everything is shut down in my country with the pandemic.

>>5024539
no, using references is illegal and it'll get you permabanned if you ever talk about it again

>>5024555
nice digits

>>5024539
I'm more worried about whether I'll be losing anything by studying from photos instead of actual 3D. Seen that mentioned a few times, but I'm too much of a newfag to art to figure out if it's true.

>>5024539
I'm more worried about whether I'll be losing anything by studying from photos instead of actual 3D. Seen that mentioned a few times, but I'm too much of a newfag to art to figure out if it's true.

>>5024555
I'm more worried about whether I'll be losing anything by studying from photos instead of actual 3D. Seen that mentioned a few times, but I'm too much of a newfag to art to figure out if it's true.

>>5024462
Super thanks anon, I was at work and could not reply sooner.

>>5024581
why real life reference is better because you can see all of the shape of the person and how the light effects them. That doesn't mean that using picture reference is bad, you should still use them if youre getting starting with art. Also look at croquis cafe on vimeo for some references.

>>5023737
draw a box or dynamic sketching is the closest thing I can think of

>>5024236
just go to e-hentai instead

https://e-hentai.org/g/1504979/ad4cbbddf6/

>>5024491
>bussy

>>5024051
the bullet(?) is not cylindrical, you need to up your ellipse game anon.

>>5024201
>I probably should have used a ruler.
Same, happened to my drawing as well.

>>5024478
>Cant get passed sad panda
NGFMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>5024038
it is mandated that coomart pussy must always be visible no matter what the pose or angle.

>>5024395
What kind of paper and pencil? I use Kent paper and Norica but it's kinda broad

How do I fix this?

>>5024009

>>5024943
You’ve hardly drawn anything

>>5024943
finish it first

>>5023407
thanks anon, how much do you think I should do daily? I did that in a 30 min session and before that I was doing 1 hour (2 min per figure) on paper for a few days.

>>5025005
Whoah hey I just woke up so I haven’t been here for like 20 hours straight
I think 20-30 minutes a day would really help supplement your other drawings cus it’s not like gesture I supposed to be a long process kind of thing. I’m >>5023868 though if you were curious who’s generally new to drawing too (we are in beg after all)

>>5025000
>>5025002
Fair enough. I was just asking about how it looked so far. I'll fimish it and come to this thread or another.

Another attempt at a tree using watercolor and still with the shibasaki videos. Cherry blossom tree but I made lots of mistakes, it's too full and I'm not sure it looks 3D, besides this is unfinished, it's a mix of fun and practice

its a finished piece but what did i do wrong here? what do i need to fix for next time

>>5025012
guess I'll stick to 30 min on digital for now
you have a good sense of line control, I like it.

>>5025042
The left leg of the girl on the left starts too high so the butt doesnt match the perspective. Knuckes should be approximately in the middle of the hand.

>Onto shadows and the like now
Im suffering

Whats a good piece of art/picture of someone punching for foreshortening practice?

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh bros..... we may have a problem.

>>5025078
>>5025078
nani

DON'T YOU EVER

>>5025082
Ignore anyone who shares ethan becker crap. He’s a YouTube entertainer that white women who fuck dogs like

>>5025087
i know that, but y is that pic related concerning

>>5025093
EB is a retard who should be ignored. A lot of his views on YouTube come from click bait using other artists names such as sinix and proko. Again, ignore. It’s literally not concerning.

>>5025113
>
k

>>5025113
Id like to see the bone structure of that creature.

How the hell are you supposed to paint varying tones?

>>5025191
By using a color wheel

>>5025191
talent genes

>>5025191

>>5025200
okay, but how did they get the right result? Did they use a different blush, airbrush, blending, blur, a new blending layer mode? How do you get to the second picture?

>>5025223
You learn lighting, color theory and forms
That’s how

>>5025233
I think you misunderstood my question

>>5025223
>the right result
no such thing

>>5025261
the drawing on the far right

I got a fever so it’s extra sloppy and I’m tired but happy turkey day frens

>>5023819
You drew god. Good

>>5023678
>Mario's cousin, Marcutio

I’m rucking up the perspective. If I can see the bottom of the bar on top, I shouldn’t be able to see the top of the surface she’s on, right?

>>5024201
>>5024190

>>5024191 In your ref, pay attention to the angles. Biggest one that sticks out is the painted speed limits/signs on the road itself. Constantly check your angles. Draw bigger shapes first, then you can carve out.

Also use your elbow a bit more. Or even a ruler. Your line quality needs work.

Maybe at this point I might recommend practicing still life drawings of a few objects, focus on perspective, line quality, and form.

>>5025078
it's literally satire

>>5025306
Thanks for the reply! When I first started sketching it I hadn’t paused the video so I started with some lines out of place, thinking, “I don’t need to erase this!” And that got me real confused when I started sketching out the bigger parts. But that just got even worse because when I went back with a pen, I started confusing lines, and I also didn’t ink in the big parts first, like you said to do, I just went from right side to left side, and along the way things continued to get more and more distorted, but I was so focused on the little fence lines and other things that the whole piece started warping even more. I think if I did another scene it would come out better now that I kinda know the order to tackle it in. Systems and process are important. The speed sign went through four drafts and still came out wrong. Haha! Today I’ve just been practicing pages of attempting to draw a straight line exercise. I just wanted a break from drawing women poorly, so I drew a city poorly instead. I will try my best to work on those things, thanks for taking the time, anon.

Is it fine if I start drawing and practicing with a screen tablet digitally? It just seems way more ccnvenient, especially since I'm in front of my computer almost 24/7. I was thinking of buying an XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro on black friday.

>>5025191
https://youtu.be/Qj1FK8n7WgY

>>5025316
Keep trying and stay consistent anon. There's a lot of theory, but art is a skill. Practice what you're learning about perspective and form, if you stop your muscle memory will fade, especially in the beginning. And again, I recommend tackling smaller subjects than a city scape for now. But by all means, don't be afraid to do them as I'm sure you'll learn lots. It's just that smaller, targeted studies help you learn faster imo

Pls critique, I'm especially trying to figure out coloring but critique on composition and stuff is appreciated too. It's intended to be a part of a background for a game.

>>5025319
I have an XP-Pen screenless tablet and it works great, don't know about the screen ones though

>>5025430
I think there’s some cognitive dissonance going on because the building is solid colors but the background is a chunky gradient. Also those angles are pretty steep for a building that small yet large if that makes any sense.

>>5025319
No this is illegal too, if you don't start with paper the art council will send someone to your house to kill you

>>5025430
perspective doesnt work like that yo

>>5025461
Isometric projection, I don't think you can make perspective work on a side-scrolling background

>>5025459
I mean obviously nobody will stop me from drawing with a tablet, but I was wondering if there were any drawbacks compared to drawing traditionally? The only one that comes to my mind is learning the art program, but I already know photoshop really well, so I don't think that'd be an issue, otherwise I dont see anything else.

>>5025467
if thats what u were going for then whateves but its just throws me off not seeing any convergence

>>5025471
I guess maybe I can make it so stuff isn't so neatly aligned so you don't notice it as much

I think im starting to feel the forms, bros

>>5025482
nah it still looks cool. Keep that image as it is if thats how you intended it to be. Challenge yourself to play with perspective and maybe recreate the image is what I would say

>>5025488
gonna make it

what's a good eraser? tired of these shitty pink one's i've been using

>>5025496
G U M

>>5025496
also there are kneated erasers and those are fun to fuck around with. I have one but I dont want to break its perfect rectangular shape just yet

>>5025496
Twist erase.

>>5025223
unironically hard round brush. lay in the color shapes and then you can lower the opacity and soften edges

alternatively some people like to use lasso + airbrush

and of course pick nice looking colors first too

For me? It's the 2mm lead holder.

>>5025319
>>5025470
Bump

>>5025470
Not really no, as long as you're still learning the basics and not trying to use all the fancy tools to hide mistakes it doesn't matter how you draw. Most important thing is just putting the time in

I need to work on foreshortening I think, Couldnt draw ass sticking out angles or down/upwards shot perspective at all
Also this is from the /v/ sketch/garyc thread. Drawing without layers, colour or erasing in basically MS paint is really fucking tough but satisfying.

>>5025610
Thank you, thats what I needed to hear, I'll definitely get some nice tablet and start grindin

>>5025078
Tried doing triangles like EB said but its not working (see top right) so how do I properlly add some meat to these figures, top left one. Im keeping the bottom ones as they are.

>>5025470
Fundamentally it’s a different physical and mental experience than drawing analog. But the end result is mental pictures. You will have a hard time just doodling in your spare time compared to making it an event to draw at the computer, but besides learning the medium on a neurological level, the fundamentals are the same. Micro leve technique changes, as does it with any change in medium. You’ll figure it out, but nothing is really stopping you. You might find it useful to switch around and give your brain something to chew on and learn, may expose you to new and unique ideas down the line.

how do you guys study proportions? draw then compare with a chart and see if something is off? copy directly from the charts? I'm having a hard time on how to study it

Been practicing gesture drawing all day. Tried to apply what I've learned so far only to realize I have no idea how to draw hands/fingers and booba. Oh well, one step at a time.

>>5025670
>Make torso
>compare femur to lower torso to full torso (pic related)
>Compare other body parts to sizes you already know
>Hands should typically reach halfway to the knees, etc

>>5025658
Yeah, thats a great idea, I'll definitely mix up traditional with digital just to get a fresher understanding of some concepts, thanks for the advice!

>>5025683
Ah right, it was "lower torso" that you compare leg size to, it was the top of the femur

>>5025686
WASNT* lower torso, WAS upper pelvis

god im so fucking retarded today holy shit fuck

I feel like I didn’t ink this as badly as usual.

>>5025703
>
so are you just constantly told to go back to beg whenever you try to post in other threads or are you just suffering from not knowing your actual level so you post here

Hope I dont come off as a dick but u seem to have fundies down to a relatively /int/ level besides the awkward linework on the clothing

>>5024939
Printing paper. I am broke.

>>5025683
>>5025686
>>5025693
it's okay anon I can see the pic, so I have to try keep in mind that while sketching? currently learning from loomis by copying it first and then use a ref to put it on test, tho it's time consuming and wonder If I should just take simpler notes on the side and compare later.

>>5025715
its just something you generally try to do accurately during figure practice. Eventually proportions become intuitive and your mind automatically does everything right

>>5025713
I consider myself /beg because, while I might have anatomy and gesture down, I can’t ink, color, or shade for shit. That’s why I’m always stuck doing those sketches.

>>5025725
Wot u use for coloring? I could try to help you out

>>5025719
so it's just a matter of experience? oh well, wish it were faster, even my gesture drawings suck so much right now

Rate my titty rendering

>>5025735
8/10 would suck, remember real boobs has a little sag, fake boobs don't.

I know you guys get people posting fucking circles here all the time, but I am going through Brett Eviston's Art and Science of drawing because I want to get back to the basics and while I completely understand the idea of a volumetric sphere having two lines that bisect it at a 90 degree angle and two ellipses that go along those lines and that the degree those ellipses are determines where the center line is on that sphere, I am having a hard time conveying that.

Firstly, I feel like my circles in the bottom right lean to one side? Like when you flip the canvas, they appear lopsided even though I am not trying to make them lopsided. They all lean to the right. Is this even a concern I should be having or does it really not even matter that much?
Secondly, for the ovals I can not for the life of me get one side of the ovals to appear darker than the other, I always fuck it up. Is this an important skill? Applying pressure at different points in the ellipse to make it appear darker/thicker?
Thirdly, because I can't get one side of them to appear darker than the other through applied pressure, the spheres in the top right don't look very good.

Do you guys think this is just because I am doing this digitally? Am I using the wrong brush? Should I break out the charcoal pencils and newsprint?

Again, I hate to bother you guys by posting a bunch of fucking circles that look the same as any other circles and asking for help, but hopefully you can help with these specific questions. Always appreciate it. Also, I resized the image, I didn't actually draw them this small.

>>5025777
You're fretting over nothing. Did you honestly think you would draw perfect ovals and circles when you sat down to grind your fundies? It takes time and dedication, just keep practicing them in your warmups. If I were you, I would be focusing on actual shit that matters like gesture drawing.

>>5025793
You're right. I've posted some gesture drawings in the past, I am just worried that I don't *actually* have an understanding of form because all of my figures come out in the same sort of isometric perspective. I'll just watch the course on gesture starting now lol
>>5021630
>>5021651

>>5025777
If you go slow rather than trying to swiftly flick out a perfect circle like a party trick I’m certain you can draw a round circle. If that’s exactly the same result, why be autistic about it? Stop this pages of circles nonsense, the idea is to get you to understand accuracy>speed. Speed comes with time, till then draw actual things. You don’t build a house by putting up one piece of scaffolding repeatedly

Last time some anon said my posing was stiff.
Still haven't really figured that out.
I know line of action and all that shit but I don't really see the magic happening.
Anyways,
any anatomical or just any critique in general would be appreciated.
Thanks.

>>5025800
>copying=creating

lol

>>5025802
>>5025802
Try to exaggerate your first gesture more. You lose expression every step after that. Don’t just come up with an idea for a pose and leave it at that, think how it applies to your composition Maybe try more extreme perspective, consider the placement of the viewer. Line of action still allows but that’s more of a balance thing than a tool to create an interesting pose. Your characters not wrong, but imagine that’s a photo in 3D space. How much more interesting could the same character be just by moving the camera around?

>>5025802 #
>>5025802 #
Try to exaggerate your first gesture more. You lose expression every step after that. Don’t just come up with an idea for a pose and leave it at that, think how it applies to your composition. Maybe try more extreme perspective, consider the placement of the viewer. Line of action still applies but that’s more of a balance thing than a method to create an interesting pose. Your characters not wrong, but imagine that’s a photo in 3D space. How much more interesting could the same character be just by moving the camera around? There’s lots of ways to create dynamism in a piece and that’s what you’re lacking I think

>>5025713
What’s the point of questioning if anons belong here or not anyway, isn’t it beneficial if people of various skill levels stick around to maybe help each other whenever they may feel like it? Trying to keep only the purest of beginners here seems counterintuitive
>>5025679
Nice job anon. I still suck with hands too but I’m finding them a tad easier cus of how many times I have to draw them. I think if you embrace drawing them every art piece you’ll get it

>>5025646
Having trouble with Loomis's next step which would be to fill in the form outside of this.

>>5025802
pretty much this >>5025817 ur anatomy is fine but u just need to brush up on gesture

>>5025821
>What’s the point of questioning if anons belong here or not anyway, isn’t it beneficial if people of various skill levels stick around to maybe help each other whenever they may feel like it? Trying to keep only the purest of beginners here seems counterintuitive

yeah that was my regret with that post but I was too lazy to retype it. I completely agree with you, for example >>5025802 this guy has non-beg grasp of anatomy and facial features, but has stiff/awkward posing, so he can come to this thread and fix the issues he's facing.

Yeah no, "nobody but only begs!! REEEE!!" was def not the message I intended to send out xd but im shit at communicating so you'll just have to forgive me

>>5025810
Not sure what you mean by this, the image I posted was 100% from imagination.

>>5025821
lmao her boob is coming from her ribs and why did you use a different style for the arm in the right it looks off compared to the rest of the body

>>5025817
>>5025825
Thanks.
Really appreciate it.
I guess I never really thought about the camera angles and all that.
Should probably have to practice more if I wanna do that though.
I'll definitely keep that in mind next time

>>5025830
if the gesture was done by imagination idk why you are drawing like this now and not like your previous posts

>>5025834
ya learn smtg new everyday anon! Become the greatest artist you can be!

>>5025831
I’m not sure what you mean, here you can redline it

>>5025841

>>5025727
Watercolor. I’d like to use a coloring that’s more ... solid? But it never seems to work right with my drawing style.

>>5025821
It's not that relevant in this case, but it is a bit weird when people who are blatantly not beginners post their stuff here and ask for critique. Just feels like they want approval more than anything, and we've already got enough insecure schizos around.
The "I've been drawing a month here's my art. oh I also drew for five years back in HS" are probably more annoying though, for bringing out the insecure schizo in others at least

>>5025847
Can you show me how to improve it?

>>5025850
I think the insecure schizos are more destructive though
They need to either learn how to be around artists that are more skillful than them or be quiet

>>5025854
not him but I think this is what he meant

im a retarded beglet tho so dont take what I say too srsly. If it looks right then take the line-over ig

how do I get started doing urban sketching? like any books to read, videos to watch etc?

>>5025867
Ah I see
I like unrealistic boobs honestly so I’ll be aiming to draw them kinda like pic relateds artist. The next figure course lesson I’m doing should be teaching me how to put breasts on top of the torso properly so I’ll take it from there after

>>5025841
nice benis.
I wanted to say that the thing that stand out to me the most is the character's left arm (the one that's pointing down).
The intersection in the elbow just seems a bit too thin.

>>5025860
they are, absolutely, they contribute literally nothing past making people reiterate shit from the sticky. I just think people who are not beginners posing as beginners can bring out the schizos is all, happens a lot on fitness forums.
Dudes talking about their six month lifts while leaving out 3 years of fucking around in the gym because "that's not really training". Just makes other people insecure, which leads to more whining about not getting good fast enough, which means more schizos.

The skilled people looking for approval are just weird and insecure, not really that big a deal

>>5025896
Oh yeah that’s fear. My excuse is that it was really rushed, reason being here >>5025278
I still feel really bad but also wanna keep drawing

>>5025849
u use a program or trad?

>>5025900
See that’s some of the skilled people who may just be around to flex. It’s best to just grow thicker skin, this isn’t a day care where we should be concerned about people going crazy seeing good artists pretending to be beginners, plus people’s opinions on what and what isn’t a beginner are very different. Schizos are only hurting themselves being that way

>>5025850
Who would you say is definitely not a beginner in this thread?

>>5025905
Oh. Yeah. I’m using procreate

>>5025822
Am I better off breaking down other peoples work like this now? So I can get a feel on how they make bodies and the outside shapes?

>>5025822
use a reference since you don't know anatomy yet

MY TABLET BROKE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>5025928
u got a hard round u could use? Also, I just went over ur thing for fun and tested some stuff out. What I find works really well for me tho when painting is using a thin pencil line when painting that has toned down opacity. It pops the colors/blending more from what I see based on other artists and my own stuff.

Ive also noticed that a lot of the time, artists use thinner lines for clothing folds to describe form in a simple yet effective manner.

Again tho, I am a beg shitter so dont take what I say too seriously, experiment with it tho and see if you like it or not

>>5025941
You can layer stuff with digital art but how do you do that with paper and pencil? or do you just eyeball it and break it down?

>>5025956
Just eye balling it, helps you train to see what is wrong with a figure drawing better imo.

>>5025956
look up a picture and draw what you see

>>5025928
Also, here's a better example of what I mean here>>5025955 with opacitated lines


>>5025944
NOOOOO HEADANON D:

>>5025912
I think there was a dude doing porn further up who I'd say isn't beg, though he never posted finished stuff I don't think? Was worse last thread (the one before maybe, I dunno, they blend together) though, where there was a fair few people who were just clearly well past beginner territory.

>>5025911
Yeah I agree, the people who are just not even pretending to be beginners are retarded but it's not a big deal. Dudes bullshitting about how long they've been drawing are worse, but it's still the schizos who need to be told to fuck off more than anything. People are a lot better at giving realistic goals here than other places, and focusing on the "just fucking do something instead of whining" side of shit which helps a lot.

>>5025038
Tried again but I was too ambitious

still having a lot of trouble with general anatomy and I'm not quite sure what to do. any help is welcome.

>>5026098
Draw a box or fun with a pencil will help youa lot to feel the forms to draw the forms the way they should instyead of the way you think they should aka symbol drawing

>>5025955
Damn you people and your hard round brush meme! But thank you for the feedback.

even more scuffed boxer. also, does anyone have a guide for emotions/expressions?

>>5025191
1. Fuck around
2. Find out
3. Refine
4. Refine
5. ????
6. Profit

>>5026109
xD I wish it was a meme but it works super well lol and np, hope it came in handy

>>5026118
you dare xD in MY thread!?

>>5026121
sowwy mastew uwu not going to dissapoint u again owo

Made a new thread >>5026131

>>5025777
Minor thing, but are you really taking into consideration the perspective of the ovals bisecting the sphere? Like a square plane, a circle distorts and follows certain rules when shifting perspectives. Circle distortion in perspective is, in my opinion, a lot fuckier to comprehend then basic planes so if you don't already understand it maybe consider looking into it. It could help you convey more convincing spheres.

Though dont worry about it if its not that big a deal to you. You'll probably want to understand circles/spheres in perspective sometime later on but it shouldn't be that big a deal right now if you don't care that much.

>>5026136
retard

>>5025714
I got some good Kent paper before it doubled this year. I should switch to printer paper but I want to do comics

>>5024999
Look nice anon.

>>5026582
thank you anon!

>>5023723
Which book is this?

>>5027026
i grabbed it from here so I don't know, but if I had to guess it came from a loomis book

>>5026102
draw a box good for a complete /beg/ starting out?

uh sketch I did