/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5021208
You think the people here went to art school?

>falling for the art school meme

>>5021213
>>5021216
Wait
you guys don't go to art school?

>>5021222
lmao no

>>5021222
Take the STEMpill, kiddo.

>>5021208
>>5021222
We don't have any art schools for adults in my 3rd world city. I am somewhat weak and there was only person in the entire city whose skills surpassed or matched mine, went on a date with her and spilled my spaghetti.

>>5021208
>>5021222
We don't have any art schools for adults in my 3rd world city. I am somewhat weak and there was only 1 person in the entire city whose skills surpassed or matched mine, went on a date with her and spilled my spaghetti.

theyr smoking alot of weed and do a lot of partys on acadamys... was fun kinda,... i miss their quirkiness, weirdness and uniqueness and crazyness.

>>5021267
Sounds fucking stupid. Why go to art school if you're going to neglect your studies and act like a belligerent hooligan indulging in unnecessary, unproductive social recreation with drugs and alcohol?

>>5021275
Oh anon, I see you’re either Asian or not from the burgerland.

>>5021275

In order to understand the collective art impressions of the students and experience impressions in which one can then develop one's experiences in one's own art.

>>5021275
someone will get laid at college

>>5021291
Wrong. You need to grind your fundies both in and outside the classroom. "Experiences" don't mean shit if you wanna get into the industry. You think you're gonna be competing with Feng Zhu level artists if you waste all your time fucking off to make memorable "experiences?" You're supposed to take the info you learn from class and put even more time into practice outside of class. But since you're a complacent shithead I guess that thought never crossed your smooth brain, and you think just attending class is enough. Let's see how far that gets you, nigger.

>>5021293
Yeah go fuck desperate fat chicks while others get jobs in the future because they actually took their work seriously. Do you think this is a fucking game, buddy?

>>5021309
>art school
>jobs
hahahaohwow

>>5021313
Ever heard of ArtCenter or CalArts, nigger? The students who attend schools like that and take their work seriously instead of fucking off playing video games and smoking weed will get jobs. They won't be an unskilled dropout complaining about they got fucked over by "muh student debt" you dipshit faggot

>>5021320
>CalArts
Lmao
>>5021309
>go fuck desperate fat chicks
I’m desperate to sink my fingers into a fat chick,to feel her form

>>5021320

that is a nice theory, anon, but I suspect a lot of grads would disagree

>>5021222
Uh, I took 2 drawing classes freshman year in college lol

>be me in last year of engineering
>need credits to maintain full time status for scholarship
>pick art 101
>easy as fuck, I’m literally the best artist in class
>fuck off to europe for a couple of weeks
>mfw i return and prof tells me 25% of my grade is attendance
>didn’t know this because I didn’t go to the first lecture lol
>try to make it up volunteering in optional studio time
>manage to only raise my grade to a B
>got A’s in my 400 level math and engineering courses
>mfw

>>5021222
I didn’t go to art school.
I went to art.

>>5021361
You think that is enough drawing to get in the industry and compete with the likes of Feng Zhu and others? 2 measly fucking nigger drawings?! The art industry isn't a joke and if you wanna make it you're gonna have to cry, sweat, and bleed for art. It's all or nothing so go big or go home. No mercy.

>>5021208
>friends sister goes to CalArts
>knew her since she was in diapers, he and I are both proud
>mfw I see her posted constantly in WMAF thread on /gif/ fucking some white chad on a Thomas the Tank Engine bed cover

Fucking CalArts.

>>5021371
well dont be shy

>>5021371
LARP more, chink. You think you're gonna compete with the likes of Feng Zhu, Krenz Cushart, and Kim Jung Gi by wasting your time posting fake wmaf fantasies on /ic/? Go draw. Or go home. *mic drop*

>>5021371
link her, kek

>>5021371
lol get fucked

>>5021208
I knew a guy who went to art school
He was pretentious and extremely bitter/envious of better artists than him
He'd intentionally try to get better artists addicted to hard drugs or turn into alcoholics
He once convinced one girl who was really good to take 10 times the average acid dose and she can't function to this day
He works at a nonprofit that helps illegal immigrants now

>>5021418
>He'd intentionally try to get better artists addicted to hard drugs or turn into alcoholics
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, are we sure that /x/ is just a bunch of schizos bros? I was literally thinking of this last night, but for people in general who I don’t like
>>5021371
Sounds like we need to grab her brother and head out to “discipline” that whore

I don't think art school is worth it. I went to one of the best art schools in the country (I dropped out after three days lmao) and I was not happy with the amount I was paying vs the quality of education I received. It seems like the bulk of the tuition is dedicated to campus facilities and luxuries rather than quality of education. A lot of high profile art schools are degree mills and sell their connections to companies and jobs, rather than the skills of their students. Do not go to art school, study art on your own and get a degree/cert in something else while you work.

>>5021208
>art teacher mentions to never gget in a relatioship with an artist thay are the worst

>>5021427
>they tried teaching me perspective
>So I dropped out

Top kek, cope more lazyfag

>>5021427
"I was not happy with the .. quality of education I received"
"I dropped out after three days"
Uhhhh

>>5021434
>>5021435
The most depressing part is realizing how many rich fags like this just get life handed to them on a fucking platter

Went to a state school.

Here we go

>Studio Drawing
>In class doing a figure study
>Class is half male half female, drawing a female model (Yes. Attractive)
>No Phones out Period.
>There's a troubled young man. Community transfer student.
>He insists we recognize his associated degree as a qualification
>Spends most classes rattling off drawing terms and techniques
>Everything he knows is regurgitated from first year drawing classes
>Is terrible.
>But that's not the issue. Really.
>Tells everyone that we should time the poses.
>Pulls out phone to "set time"
>Immediately gets flamed by half the girls in the class
>All the guys join in
>He gets offended and storms out leaving his phone
>No Phones out Period.
>Someone takes the phone and slides it down the hallway. Shuts the door.
>Comes back like nothing happened and asks where his phone is
>Loses his shit when he figures out its in the hallway and goes to the professor
>"Why was your phone out"
>Everyone loses their shit and he runs out

Later that year

>In crit going over projects that we've been working on outside of class
>Everything is going fine
>Gets to his turn and he's drawn a car.
>Everyone just gradually gives him critique.
>His sense of self worth begins to degrade before our eyes.
>I tell him that I like that he ignored perspective rules in order to make it more cartoony
>And more
>He loses it and tries to argue with me
>I'm smiling and very excited
>He wants to actually fight me
>Sophomore friend volunteers to step in for fun
>All the girls in class tell him to stop
>He examines the larger and meaner Sophomore standing before him.
>By this point he's notices he's probably the smallest guy in the room.
>All the seniors are hype as fuck
>He takes a walk

>I took the professor to the side and told him that the guy was probably on the spectrum.

College was fun.

>>5021222
99% of those on /ic don't do art they only come here to the save the coomart people post of others that do art

>>5021455
>>I tell him that I like that he ignored perspective rules in order to make it more cartoony
>>And more
>>He loses it and tries to argue with me
>>I'm smiling and very excited
>He examines the larger and meaner Sophomore standing before him.
>By this point he's notices he's probably the smallest guy in the room.
>All the seniors are hype as fuck
>He takes a walk
>I took the professor to the side and told him that the guy was probably on the spectrum
You sound like an insufferable asshole

>>5021478
U mad, aspie?

>>5021291
That's one hell of a fancy way to say "normies like to party, get laid and avoid their studies because their rich parents have a safety net behind them regardless the outcome."

>>5021425
Its just crab mentality taken to the extreme
Minority communities are especially bad about it, albeit in more direct and less nuanced ways (accusing successful members of their community of 'acting white')
Thats why I avoid people that get jealous easily, you make friends with the wrong one and you might mysteriously get cancer after two years of knowing them
If you know anyone who is the envious type do yourself a favor and don't turn your back on them
Don't let them have access to your foodstuffs or hygienic supplies while you're not looking

>>5021487
Funny how you claim to have the moral high ground when you clearly just take it out on those who are helpless for a cheap laugh.

I’d beat you senseless if you had the nerve to try something like this on me. If that were somehow not possible against a limp wristed trust fund art school cunt, I’d opt for sneak attack or sabatoge. You really are the scum of the earth.

>>5021438
>middle class college dropouts are richfags
Yeah, actual rich kids aren't allowed to drop out and if they are they're coming from "new rich" families whose wealth will get squandered by the kids within 30 years
I love how Marxist retards label anyone who isn't living paycheck to paycheck as "rich", because being able to plan ahead and not spend all your money on shoes every time you get paid means you're rich and bad right?
I hope you do understand you're a useful idiot for ultra wealthy families to attack the middle class that threatens them
How does it feel to be a barking dog for secretive banking families and people like Jeff Bezos?

>>5021537
The kike cock tastes like dirty shekels

>>5021526
what a helpless cunt you are. fuck off back to twitter

>>5021309
>Do you think this is a game
Yes.

>>5021537
Imagine criticizing Marxism with having no understanding of Neo-Leninist economic principles

>>5021545
Not him but he's right. You sound like a massive faggot.

>>5021558
Imagine wasting your life learning the nuances of marxist theory
You sound like a miserable faggot

My friend goes to the best art school in my country. He's actually very talented and travelled the world for his art. He would periodically send me photos of his classmates' works and they all sucked ass.

Every time I fantasize about being in an art school, I am reminded of the mediocre work being churned out at these prestigious schools and the insane tuition they're paying. Only a fraction of the people attending are worth a shit and they didn't need art school to improve their technique in the first place, just for networking.

>I’d beat you senseless if you had the nerve to try something like this on me. If that were somehow not possible against a limp wristed trust fund art school cunt, I’d opt for sneak attack or sabatoge. You really are the scum of the earth.

>>5021574
Imagine being an uncultured, intellectually devoid retard

>>5021583
Even that prepubescent kid would be pretty dangerous with a blunt object and a bad temper

>>5021478
Next time someone speaks with a professor on your behalf, be sure to call them an asshole.

Wish I could go to art school

>>5021455
well he was right - every decent life drawing class ive been to the tutor would tell us how long the pose is, give us prompts at halfway through, 3 minutes left, one minute left etc.

>>5021585
>everyone that doesn't waste their time learning garbage outdated economic theory is uncultured and intellectually devoid
I'm having flashbacks to high school lmao

>>5021565
>Not him
Sureeee...

art school was great, solid illustration course which really honed our ability to communicate visual narrative and concept. and to encourage to delve into the aspect of the industry and niches that appealed to us.
loads of great conversations with practicing illustrators, agency owners etc got a great understanding of what the industry was like.

did a looooads of ketamine through all 3 years, went to sweet parties, banged a load of hot but mentally unstable chicks and got a 2:1 while producing some of my best work ive ever made, levelled up in drawing and photoshop hugely.

of course since leaving I ended up doing a much wider range of work (whoever would pay me) more vector graphics and flyer design using hand made elements.

but the contacts and scenes I got involved in meant I had a solid network of events promoters, producers, djs musicians and circus artists which has only gotten stronger over time and continued to provide me with work doing custom lettering, logos, ep covers and events flyers (less of those since covid of course)

Sold a lot of drugs at festivals, and the salesmanship/entrepeneurial skills I learned from doing that seamlessly transferred over to running my freelance business.
(being available, able to identify demographics at a distance and come up with some kind of product or service which suited them specifically)

tl:dr art school was great, yes I still owe all my student loan but fuck them it gets written off in another few years (be careful how much you earn otherwise youll have to pay it back)

>>5021613
Once again, you sound insufferable.

>>5021434
>>5021435
>>5021438
I got a full refund. Also, I'm not rich but managed to earn 40,000 usd from holding onto shitcoins. Learn to save money instead of blowing it on the annual Gamestation 7™ and like 500 dragon dildo funko pops, or the worst investment: Non Technical University. Eat shit.

>>5021427
>>5021626
This guy is tsflipp 100%

>>5021418
>He once convinced one girl who was really good to take 10 times the average acid dose and she can't function to this day
Based. We should do this to all druggies

>>5021852
Taking advantage of women with drug problems is not based anon. In fact it's cringe

>>5021459
This

I dropped uni 2 years ago, i haven't told my family

>>5021617
can u give me some quick entrepreneur tips im trying to do the same and im rly struggling.

>>5021418
So this is the kind of person who votes democrat...

>>5021222
does Library Science count?

>>5021208
I took an art course in college since I wanted an environment of where everyone has the same focus on art, and to just get out of the house more. When we started drawing, I had been drawing for like a few months by now, I could clearly tell that I was the best in the room which completely sucked since I was wanting for there to be some godly artists that I could talk to.

It was probably one of the worst decisions I made, but thanks to covid I didn't need to complete it and still allowed me to get a good enough final exam mark.

The teachers were really nice, but the dudes there were insufferable faggots. Half of the class was under 19 years of age and the other half were old but acted like faggots. Half of the room had snowflake coloured hair and the nig I talked to would rather keep saying shit he read from reddit and dankmemes whilst drawing said memes and sharing his minecraft stories, first time I felt that despite being 19 I was already a boomer.

The students would legit talk about the most inane and boring ass fuck shit in the world, there was also a literal banshee in the back of the room with a fake laugh that would echo down the hall and into the room 3 doors away. There was also a gay-drag wearing faggot that was extremely disrespectful to teachers with his faggotry and once called one of them a "bitch" and whatever else drag fags say.

There was also an actual retard that already took the course but failed and was retaking it, that bragged about beating up kids at the school that the family he got adopted in sister got bullied.

I'm going to see if the university art class is any different next year. Hopefully it will be much more serious and on another level than that college shit I went through.

>>5022577
No you were not the best in the room.

Former student here. I lived with 4 roomies and they were all art hoes. I did not score, but whenever I cooked something I made sure to cum inside the thing and they all ate it. One of them let me sniff their pussy too once in a while, maybe it were a kink thing? That place sucked ass

>>5022623
Yes... I was.

>>5021208
>tfw my teacher made me stick fucking pieces of cardboard on the sheet to "build the form" or some shit.

>>5022649
yeah you were

>>5022651

>>5022653
Unless you are talking about the art teachers themselves, then yeah they were better.

Taking art classes to fill up credits in university. Most people didn't give a fuck and had zero skill or they were le artist gril who draws pictures of their tits/vag. Every semester there was a new drawing a vagina on the wall.

>>5021455
>bullying stories

Art class is a scam, the only time I've improved as an artist in a classroom was doing figure drawing.

>>5021371
lmao I know exactly what webm that is

>>5021371
someone post the webm or link it.

>>5021588
>>5021478
>>5021565
>>5021625
It's pasta retards

>>5021275
its a collective of anti-socials and 2deep4u's
of course its gunna be like that when school was just a bowl of mulch

>>5021208
>Chinese girl from china thinks im a cartoon
>korean girl from korea start speaking to me in korean
>japanese girl tells me i look like japanese

Mfw universal asian look.

>>5022781
Lucky. You could theoretically learn every language and have access to every prime yellow waifu out there

>>5021427
>sell their connections to companies and jobs
but isn't that half the battle?
I mean, getting internships and employment doesn't sound like a horrible idea.

I pay 2000 euros a year, am on your 4 now. It was a good decision for me, since it forced me to draw more and explore other aspects of art that I previously have not touched. The classes are literally more or less 2 times a week for 3 hours figure drawing with a model. I liked it, it just lacked depth or how to say it, realism was not really properly either introduced or explained. The quality of the works is as such a lot lower than it honestly could be. I like the people there though, sure you have some leftist bullshit here and there but all in all they are a solid, down to earth bunch. I miss them

I will do this, get a bfa fine arts and do my own stuff from then on. It is not enough to just draw 2 times a week for 3 hours, it simply does not improve your skill fast / noticeable enough.

>>5021222
I got kicked out of one. It's very hard to get into anothert because I have a violent offense on my transcript.

>>5022845
what you get kicked?

>>5022852
Threatened my roommate with a knife.

>>5022861
High iq

>>5022881
Why must you mock me? I know that there is something wrong with me.

>>5022861
whoa
Was your roommate going to rape you or something?

>>5022888
No. I have always had difficulty controlling my temper. He did nothing wrong.

>>5022905
s-s-storytime

>>5021235
Stem is going to be the next minimum wage garbage job. It's already starting.

>>5021208
Storytime.
>>Parents want me to be dentist. Say fuck no, my life, and apply for art university
>>Get in, get grants and shit. gmi.png
>>First two years grind fundies and get into art shows and galleries.
>>Realize fine art/illustration is shit. Major in cg animation.
>>Friends all social and shit, talk to recruiters and are getting internships and jobs while I think "getting good" is the way to a nice job.
>>Friends get into Pixar/Disney/ILM/Dreamworks. I get into shitty smaller studios.
>>hatemylife.zip
>>Few years go by, my "made it" friends hate their jobs, competitive and no room for growth. Still doing first year shit. I'm a senior/lead now, making big booty bucks in Hollywood.
>>Realize it's not all it's cracked up to be. Toxic environment.
>>Switch careers...best move I've ever done after 10 years of work for Disney/ILM/DW/Sony whatever.
>>Do art on the side now as a hobby. feelsgoodman.psd

>>5022922
>wanted to become an architect
>Didn't have mathematic requirement
>Attend art school with intent of transferring majors
>enrolled in Honors Calculus class due to scheduling conflict and test scores, completely not qualified
>hate my classmates and instructors
>charged with noise complaint after second night for playing music at night
>have roommate
>he is gay
>this bothers me, try to ignore it
>failing classes due to poor time management
.cannot sleep
>roommate watches telivision at night, keep room extremely cold
>speak with RA, cannot break contract without losing large amounts of money
>eventually reported for anit-social behavior
>campus police refer me to campus psych services
>can't do anything for me because I am not experiencing an emergency
>attempt anger management.
>failing class
>still can't sleep
>increasingly angry
>stab wall with box cutter
>tell roommate to go to sleep
>arrested by campus police, expelled
At this point, I don't deserve to make it.

>>5021328
source on the manga?

>>5022784
>asian girls
>worth anything
Pick one.

>>5022965
>eventually reported for anit-social behavior
The fuck did you even do to get reported?
>>5023005
Cope

>>5021222
I have more than a double digit iq... so "no"

>>5023008
Talking about wanting to hurt my roommate, asking about me here flammable materials are stored.
I am extreme lucky nit to have been charged legally.

>>5021418
What an evil person

>>5022957
Nice, what did you career change to?

>>5023014
sounds like you've learned from your mistakes then?

>>5023040
IT, pays better, more stable, much easier, and I don't get attached to my work like I did with animation.

>>5022957
Literary post your work right the fuck now. There's no way an actual pro browses this shithole

>>5023046
Yes.
I found my previous post about this in an archive. I was still angry about it for a year. Reading that post again made me feel awful.
I have been looking into places with open enrollment, as I don’t think any normal school will accept me.

>>5023057
Yo could have been a dentist.

>>5022749
it's not

>>5021369
>muh struggling artist meme
or, you know.. genuinley enjoy what you do and your work will exude appeal.

>>5022192
be. sociable.

when you meet new people the first words out of your mouth when they ask what you do are
"im an illustrator" or designer or whatever.

doesnt matter if it doesnt make up even 10% of your income - its really important that you internalise that as what you identify as, and the more you say it the more you believe it and the more other people believe it.
I cannot understate how important it is to make face-to-face contact and conversation as people remember people first and then they remember their work.

have an instagram or something so you can show them quickly on your phone what kind of thing you do and talk -confidently- about it.

identify your market: these are your people, those who share your hobbies/interests and will relate most to your work, make the effort to go to places and events and socialse in the circles where these potential clients will be and talk. to. them.

'making it' as a freelancer requires talent of course but that's nowhere near enough, we had a couple of guys in our class at uni who were great technical draughtsmen, awesome concepts engaging images but fucking useless at saying more than a few words or even making eye contact with others when asked to talk about their work in group critique sessions.
surprise surprise I looked them up recently and nothing new online in the last 10 years (when we graduated)

>>5022682
value for money guided figure drawing is as good as you can get.

I liked my 3 years learning illustration but that was more about finding my creative voice, exploring my interests visually etc etc but in terms of actual base SKILL improvement you cannot beat regular figure drawing classes

>>5022784
I am white and I don't need to learn shit to get the same :)

>>5023008
>Cope
I’m asian and only date white girls.

>>5023322
>talking about your art
After all these years still nothing comes close to the internal cringe I feel when forced to do this, you have eyes for fuck's sake, why do you need me to tell you about it

>>5021602
It wasn't a figure drawing class, we just happened to be in a drawing class doing figure for the day. No one wanted to do timed studies, he just said it was going to happen. It wouldn't have been a problem if he didn't pull his phone out while a nude model is in the room. Believe it or not, we have kitchen timers for this exact purpose.
>>5022681
Getting calibrated by the real world isn't bullying. If you feel there is a reason why you should be treated differently than it is your responsibility to notify people. Also, I was completely serious about the crit. This guy used the excuse that he wasn't going for realism in many other critiques, just to avoid formal critique. This time I expected it. No one should dish out what they can't take.

I love you zoomers' sense of justice though. It's endearing.

>>5023552
Gain some self awareness.

>>5022164

Your credits stay active pretty much forever, so you can always go back and finish your degree. Thats what I did after I dropped out for a couple years.

>>5023126
I like my back and didn't want to end up hating my life and paying for school for the rest of my life.

>>5023087
I was browsing this shithole before that, why would anything change?

>>5021208
Someone shit in the middle of the class for her art presentation, some people left the classroom, most didn't. Wish I stayed to see wtf she would say her art meant and the teacher's response to it. She passed somehow btw

>>5021879
Darwin disagrees

>>5023630
Darwin is dead.

>>5023641
Im pretty sure my uncle Darwin is alive and well, he just posted some shit on his facebook page yesterday

>>5023340
Kys /pol/tard

>>5023008
Cringe, every yellow fever fag I've ever seen on 4chan always posts the same pale models with monolid reduction surgery. I've rarely seen anyone of you ever except the reality that 99% of asian females don't look like that, and the ones that do would rarely pay mind to you anyways. If they're the creme of the crop in their countries, why would they bow to the average guy somewhere else.

>>5023624
Yeah she passed gas lol

>>5022957
>TFW this describes me, but currently doing the shitty smaller studios work.

I like what I do but fuck does it suck to see people I knew in school making it to bigger studios. Only upside is that smaller studios seem to be a lot less cut throat and management is chill. More opportunities to do fun stuff.

>>5023558
You should read the story again. I'm afraid you're a little confused.

>>5023749
To what degree must someone be conceited to think a conflicting view must be a misunderstanding?

>>5023761
I am conceited. But that's irrelevant.
That has no bearing on the fact that your conflicting view is born of misunderstanding.

>>5023793
There is no misunderstanding, newnigger.

>>5023832
So first I'm a 'bully' and now I'm a 'newnigger.'

You've had a long day. Perhaps you should take a break.

It might help you sort things out.

>>5023749
>>5023793
>>5023845
>haha im spamming reaction images, now im really 4channing!1!!
kys newfag

im so stupid i went to college as an asian studies major to study japanese. in high school i studied abroad and had such a good time i somehow decided to major in it. you know what happened? my professor barely spoke any english and would just give us copies of a free japanese newspaper. he would say just pick any article, use your dictionary and translate it into english. then the next week you hand it in, he doesn't read it because he can't read it, he puts a check on the top in red pen and you get an A. i ended up living with my mom for 7 years after graduating while working in a warehouse literally scraping dead roaches and rodent feces off of old printer circuit boards with rusty razor blades and windex to refurbish them and turn them into t shirt printers for 12 bucks an hour to pay the debt back. t shirt printers that never once worked correctly by the way, so i would watch these people spend 8 - 20 thousand dollars on these machines thinking they were going to get rich, and then after a few weeks the print heads clog when you try to run fabric ink through them because the titanium dioxide white pigment doesn't really dissolve, and then the angry people come yell at me because my coward boss would hide from them and avoid their calls.

bruh, unless you're gonna be an engineer or a doctor or something like that do not fucking go to college.

even after that i went back to school to learn computer science. in java 101 they did the same thing. they would tell you here is a complier now use google to figure out how to code the compiler to do XYZ.

you are on your own dude. unless your parents have a skill to pass down to you, its a scam, and you're wasting your money.

>>5023851
Right now I'm trying to imagine being upset about how long I've been using a website versus someone else.

I think you're confused again. I don't think that was an issue we were discussing.

>>5023707
literally me. I have friends and colleagues who work in bigshit firms and have a really sweet portfolio from big know projects, but a the same time they cant stop complaining about the shitty work conditions. Either they get paid really bad, or they have to work A LOT (12hours a day) or their colleagues are all ready to sacrifice them or the management is fucking retarded etc etc.

I like my tiny studio. I get to decide in the art direction, we have the freedom to explore and management listens to us. Life is good.

>>5021418
>He was pretentious and extremely bitter/envious of better artists than him
i fucking hate how many artists are like this holy shit just enjoy your fucking hobby
>He'd intentionally try to get better artists addicted to hard drugs or turn into alcoholics
this is so fucked up if true.

>>5023008
Anon, that photo is so blurred her boobs have literally merged. This woman is as real as your waifu.

>>5021242
What city

>go to art school
>meet elites
>they dislike poor fags
>get shit on

>chilling in dorm living room one night
>friend comes screaming in
>ask her what's up
>she tells the story of "cum dripping man"
>apparently for her 6 hour figure drawing class, they had cum dripping man as a nude model
>the old man just would not stop dripping cum
>he even takes his cum stream and slaps it on his leg to try and hold it at some point
>friend had front row seats to it
>friend tells teacher she has to leave midway through class and teacher gives her a look of understanding
>joke around that he probably has some sort of condition
>proceed to look it up
>find a yahoo questions (or some shit) about the story but from the persective of the nude model
>mfw all the details are the same

>>5027204
I thought only lefties went to art schools.

>>5021455
fake and gay

>>5022965
>reported for anti-social behaviour
I dont believe this is real

>>5027392
>implying elites aren't lefties

Imagine paying for art school. There's millions of videos on the 'net that can teach you anything you need about drawing. Just go to a public university and get a degree in a secondary job as plan b to get money while pursuing art lol.

It was a community college class but
>Painting class
>Joint class with upper level students, it was their day to present
>One of the upper level students was clearly a special student(would do paintings with pokemon in them, that kind of shit)
>Instructor who is notorius for being one of the only two hard asses in the division has let her get away with being a lazy bitch
>The student presents her work
>speaks fucking gibberish and complains about not wanting to do it/not really understanding what she painted herself
>none of the other students say anything cause they dont want to come off as insulting
>Instructor, feeling insulted after this dumb bitch basically shit talked his lesson plan, reaches his melting point
>slams the door shut so no other instructor can hear whats going on
>starts cussing the bitch out, calls her out on how shes been slacking all year and how his students didnt have the balls to ever point it out to her face cause of her retardation
>the special bitch starts shaking and actually starts to properly present her work like any other student

>>5027392
The problem is those elite kids are lefties but their parents tend to be rich conservative elites. So they are inherited spoiled brats with thicc wallets.

>>5021222
no

>>5022655
Took his classes at CalArts, easily the most based instructor there but he was vilified by the SJWs who took over. Still use his techniques.

>>5029945
tell us more about Vilppu vs the sjws. What did they do to him?

>>5027392
The elites are lefties

ok, we hate art schools in the western world. but proposal. art schools in the eastern world. they have trade school like art schools for fuckin manga n shit. unfortunately idk how good they are because i don't speak japanese.

>>5023879
stop posting, faggot

>>5028339
Kids and students are allowed to get away with too much because no one ever speaks up. Good that teacher told her off
Unrelated but I know an artist on twitter, for two years now they haven't made any progress since the time I met them, they're always begging for commissions claiming their phone bill is due, they're unemployed due to corona etc
>Sometimes posts league of legends screen shots
Their prices are high for the art they're putting out so it's no shit they dont get commissions. On top of that they wrote two months ago they landed a comic job saying it feels like a dream come true.
>posts a wip saying its for the comic, it's literal scribbles with no sign of fundamentals
>recently they posted saying they haven't been paid by the client yet, client avoids the topic when they bring up payment discussion
They're a fucking dumb ass through and through. I brought this up because they're the result of someone who never spoke up to them and said hey your art is shit, your prices are too high, you don't try hard enough etc. Fuck I need to stop seeing them post.

>>5027204
Are you me?

>>5021455
You and your classmates sound like some real assholes. Cringe to bully others when you are adults already.

>>5030317
Say "Please."

I was the only black person in class. Felt like the teacher subtlety wanted me to drop the class on the first 2 weeks but I was better than most of the students so I guess he backed off.

>>5030756
What made you think that? I'm white and am really curious about these little subtle racisms. Are you in U.S?

>>5030756
Same. It felt like my teachers were walking on eggshells when talking to me and never seemed as open with me as they were with my other classmates. Nowadays, it's only slightly better with like 1-2 teachers with the rest still having this cold edge to them (might be because we're only communicating via zoom, but still)

>>5021208
That's a hot girl is she in art school or is this a fake stock photo?

>>5022957
PYW

>>5032801
take a guess, pajeet

>>5030756
>>5032236
Is it art school or just in general? Where is this? And do you guys act normal or like niggers? Asking seriously since I’m curious.

>>5021427
Guy posted some traced dragonball Z art for our final in 2d design. My teacher was too much of a cuck to openly critique it either. If I can find the screenshot I took I'll post it lol

>>5022651
To be fair, Gottfried Bammes also has a similar teaching method for beginners I think.

>>5021275
enjoy burning yourself out in college, Anon

>>5027392
I’m left handed and I went to STEM

>>5023391
>internal cringe
if you dont believe in what you do why should anyone else?

>>5023866
You made a poor choice in major.

>>5022965
This has to be a pasta, I read this exact same story like three years ago in another art school story thread

>>5032847
I'm in art school in NYC and I act about as normal as the average socially anxious college student. I only really talk when I'm asked something and I'm pretty sure I'm one of the least threatening black people on Earth (fetus voice and overall baby appearance)

>>5035212
Should unironically pull the “das raycis” card, I’d be miffed at some smarmy ass boomer talking down to me

>>5035212
if you draw well they might feel intimidated. You don't even have to be necessarily better than them, but encroaching on their skill level will give any insecure teacher cold feet

>>5021208
i met the love of my life there

>>5023866
if you weren't so stupid and reliant on other people to motivate you you could've easily become fluent in japanese in the 3-4 years you were at college and done freelance translation work
same with computer science. i went back to school and did computer science but actually learned from my mistake and made sure to develop a portfolio of coding projects outside of class so i would be able to apply for jobs.

fool me once, etc

I didn’t go to art school, I got a CS degree and draw for fun. Now I draw whatever I want, whenever I want, as God intended.

>>5023866
>you are on your own
This is true. College is for the magic paper. You teach yourself, so learn well.

At RISD for illustration, posted about it before, but it’s an excellent time - still not easy to navigate the social scene or time management, but learned a lot about making comics and anatomy

Makes me wonder if the other RISD/alum anons are still about

>>5032236
Probably they walk on eggshells because they're afraid of getting accused of racism

>>5035369
I doubt it has to do with my skill level. I'm above /beg/, but I have classmates that are far better than me in pretty much every drawing category and they don't get treated the same way. I reckon it's more because I suck in social situations and they picked up on it and are more critical than I'm uses to since it's college

>>5035584
Based stemfag. Goodluck on your journey

>>5021222
i took one art class in college for a prerequisite and dropped knowing i would fail

part of the reason i picked up art was to spite my professor

>>5035392
Holy moly someone else posted da dragon

>>5021222
unless you're aiming for a job that specifically requires a specific degree, art schools are a waste of money and a scam.
Who in their right mind would pursue art as a legitimate career?

>>5021213
I went to art school

>>5022885
>>5022881
For future reference. You should only threaten people who are comfortable with violence because they understand it. Threatening someone who wants nothing to do with your tendencies will land you in last place loser.

>>5021222
motherfucker who can afford to go to art school?
In order to afford tuition for a year at SCAD, a person would need to have a full time job that brings home double the average pay most of the working class is able to earn.
Lets do some math.
A person going to SCAD for 4 years is going to rack about about $150k in debt just in tuition costs alone. A gov subsidized loan has an interest rate of 2.75%
On a 20 year repayment plan, that's $815 a month.
Art degrees aren't exactly valuable, so lets say they get real lucky and land an office job making $40k a year.
After taxes, that goes down to taking home ~$2.5k a month.
The median rent of a one bedroom apartment in the US is ~1k.
After paying rent and their loan, they have $685 left over, and spend $150 on food, leaving $535
Cool, still gotta pay for utilities.
Cheapest average cost of utilities is in NM, at $232 a month. After utilities, they have $303 left over.
Now comes transportation. Most of the US has shit public transport, so our art grad has a shitty clunker they paid for outright. Still gotta pay for car insurance tho. Average monthly cost of that is ~$118. Our grad now has $185 left over. Oh, and we can't forget about gas. Average spending on gas is $72.10 a month. Now our grad has $112.9 left over.
Communication is vital, so our grad has a cellphone. Average cost of that bill for one person is $70 a month.
Grad now has $42.9 left over for savings and doing fun things like occasionally going out.

Going to art school in a country without universal higher education when you aren't a trust fund baby is a dumb fucking move.

>>5021418
>He once convinced one girl who was really good to take 10 times the average acid dose and she can't function to this day
She took a ten strip and broke down like that? Was it her first time or something?

>>5021222
I didn’t make it in and left to pursue my political career. Made the mistake of invading Russia.

>>5038521
Right on dude, honestly also hope that more people can have access to the kind of tools and direct professional contact you get at a big name school more universally.

Closest thing as it stands is community college courses, though that kinda depends on how connected the local college is to the local art pool, would be nice if there was a public system with universal hiring quotas from local professionals or sommat like that.

>>5035781
What bird is this?

>>5038874
An apostlebird

Went to CalArts almost 30 years ago. Lower middle class, got about half in scholarships and grants and I’m still paying for the rest. Lucky enough to work in the arts the whole time but never made enough to rise above the rat race. Many of the students with me went on to Great things, it’s been tough to watch but I have to think I was lucky to even be in the same classes with them. Today I wouldn’t recommend anyone to go to art school, but back then we didn’t really have the internet to get info so it was a good place to get the inside scoop. We had to scour used book stores for $500 copies of the Illusion of Life and fight over who got to buy it.
Vilppu was teaching then and we learned a lot from him. But about halfway through he was ousted as department head and replaced by SJW mafia. Classical drawing techniques re-laced with fashion drawing and more abstract ideas. It was a good change but I feel lucky to have had the balance. Glen was vilified by the new teachers but I still use his techniques the most. Tried and true methods that stand the test of time.
School was pretty wild then and a lot of students - especially the trust fund kids - just used it as an extended party.
It’s wild to see how things have changed since then, you can find so much art instruction online but without the direct daily interaction with other students and teachers I think it might be hard to stay motivated or focus in the right direction.

>>5035584
Hey, me too! I thought I wanted to work in the art industry until I took commissions for a year in college and made art friends in the industry. It turns out my dream job was my nightmare job, so I stuck with CS which I love but am not emotionally attached to like art. Big tech companies have this outdated stigma of being corporate soul drainers, but I found that’s the creative work experience.

>>5038521
ARt school is free in my country , just move to europe americunts

>>5038521
I mean art school is a scam, but comon if your really broke as fuck you'd have some housemates. You could prob pay like $600 and like 70-100$ for utilities. No way as a broke art student you'd be paying for a single.
But yea SCAD is literally a scam, there's tons of articles online about their predatory practices.
Also every time I went to nearby life figure drawing and met someone who went to SCAD they never worked in industry and looked REALLY depressed.
>nice drawing, did you go to art school?
>yea I went to SCAD
>Oh man thats really cool. So like do you work in the art industry right now?
>*guys looks away really sad * n-n-no

>be me
>eastern european immigrant poorfuck in his 20s
>living in a first world EU country for most of my life now
>parents are both working class, father in construction, mother cleaning
>father teaches me to be entrepeneurial
>always have shown talent in art
>parents are pretty chill so they let me go to art school
>I pay for most of it myself with freelance assignments
>Rest is paid by the government because first world EU country good
feels good man

>in art school
>most of the classmates are nagging kids with rich parents
>many of them are self proclaimed communists
>they dont take school seriously
>they dont use most of schools facilities
>they blame the school for not teaching them anything useful
>they try to change the school because its not 'diverse' enough

I'm going to finish my studies because my art school has legitimately some great material to offer. But Jesus H Christ do I hate most of its students. Do any of you anons have some advice for dealing with those entitled assholes without ruining my future job opportunities?

>>5040192
>Do any of you anons have some advice for dealing with those entitled assholes
>without ruining my future job opportunities?
Pretty much anything you do/say has the potential to fuck you up real good for all eternity.
Best course of action is to keep to yourself and never share your opinion on anything political.
The moment they see you as the enemy, they will pretty much think that they're allowed to inflict everything they want unto you.
You're basically surrounded by body snatchers.

Just do your study, get your degree and get the hell out of there.

>>5039516
wtf, how was he ousted from department head? Did the teacher's really villify Glen? What did they say about him?

>>5039516
Curious about what you’ve been doing in the past 30 years. Would love if you posted work but understand if you don’t want to.

>>5039516
please tell us more about Papa Vilppu. There needs to be justice.

>bachelor's in illustration.
>First year
>Studying genre illustration, how to draw for editorial, picturebooks, advertising etc.
>Lecturer mentions that there is a style of illustration used by furries
>Whole class double takes.
>Is this happening.?
>Boomer professor mentions he's had students in previous years who only exclusively draw in a furry style. And he doesn't understand it very much.
>Lecture literally devolves to the point where people are shouting out Deviant Art as the prof looks up various examples of bad furry porn projected onto the white board.
>We actually make an exercise in it, critiquing shape and form and questioning the intent of the artist.
>Even prof is laughing.
>Holy shit college is fun.
>However one kid not enjoying this shit at all.
>Is taking a "all art styles have merit" stance and being a stick in the mud while his fellow first year BAs are loosing their shit over bad furry art.
>He acts like an autismo and literally makes a point of folding his arms and sighing loudly everytime the room laughs.
>Months later, I find out that dweeb is a closet furry.
>Of course
>I hear he got kicked out of his degree for having a massive blow up fight with a lecturer.
>To this day not sure if it was furry related.

>>5040249
I should clarify - he was temporary head, and expected to be named head of the department but was passed over for someone else. The new head of the department was a woman who had a bone to pick with the animation industry for being too male-driven, maybe rightly so. But she made some choices in trying to correct that imbalance that obviously rubbed some students the wrong way. The new drawing teachers she brought in were coming from a fashion drawing direction, and while that was refreshing they also tended to scoff at Glen’s traditional style. I was young and impressionable so I kept my mouth shut but eventually I realized that there’s room for all techniques, it just depends where you’re applying them. Constructive drawing is crucial for being able to convey forms in space, but you could also be doing something more abstract or stylized. Fashion drawing is great for concept art and character design but how many jobs are there for that? I will say that Glen has had a much more successful career than any of the other people I learned from and I’m grateful to have learned from him.
>>5040268
I don’t want to dox myself with my crappy sketches but I’ll just say that I’ve done a lot of quick jobs for movies and ads. I do storyboards and most of what I draw is faster than I want, the first job is to get the client’s ideas down and readable by the deadline. Glen’s method of construction is important when you need to draw people fast without reference, in sequence.
>>5040320
No worries, I’m watching Glen’s class on New Masters Academy right now, he’s still kicking which is more than I can say for some of his successors.
That’s justice as far as I can see!

>>5041288
Furries should be beat up on sight

>>5022577
First year courses are essentially a filter for near every single field.

>>5023667
asians are capable of looking good, where I live, I have yet to see anyone look even remotely attractive.

>>5032801
possibly real, but most likely not, even if it was real, its the hot ones in a corner, not the majority.

>>5022798
thats not what a degree mill does.
what they do is get anyone 'employed', check a box, and move on
this doesn't mean employed in their field, or underemployed, just they have a job after our school.
they take the best of the best, and farm them to big studios so they can advertise you can get a job there.

art should be treated as a trade skill, not an esoteric form of enlightened thought, once you get the trade skills down, that's when you get creative with the skill set.

>>5030104
atelier, in the west this is what you are looking for, there are a few french schools, but france is the only country that takes animation/illustration seriously in the world, everywhere else it's a byproduct

atelier's are generally what you look for, not degree, just skill, worse come to worse, they usually hire live models for drawing.

>>5030004
>What did they do to him?
They raped my boy

>>5044530
>atelier's
I'm in the process of saving up for one. I need it so can can draw anatomically correct sonic porn

>>5044855
For that, all you need is Proko.

>>5044855
Totally worth ngl

>>5021418
What can be broken must be broken

>>5030004
Glen was acting as temporary head of the department and was expected to become the full time head, but they ended up choosing a Female animator who had a bone to pick with the male dominated industry. Not sure if it was a social justice move or if they didn’t offer Glen enough. He decided to leave instead of staying on as an instructor. The new head brought in some other teachers who often remarked poorly on Glen’s style and art without giving any solid reasons. The new style was really flat and distorted, more about shape and line than form.

>>5021208
Went to community college with dreams of transferring over to uni for animation, get a transfer degree in an Associate in Fine Arts (essentially a normal Associates with extra art classes) degree. Look at the price tag of the unis I was interested. "Nope". Go to local technical community college, get into blue collar work for only a $200 dollar education price tag thanks to fafsa. Make more money than my condescending cousins who are seeped in college debt and working in careers they didn't study for. Meanwhile I draw for fun, but secretly wanted to learn animation, so I am slowly learning animation on my own atm.

>>5044866
>all you need is Proko.
His anatomy classes were great but I need some actual real time feedback and critiques.

>>5021208
>1st year of my bachelor in animation
>art teacher takes our class to a museum to draw animal skeletons and replicas
>it's fun, there are birds, dinosaurs and a bunch of cool shit
>we get to that one room with a ton of beautiful stuffed animals
>some students are already there drawing
>I sit down next to someone, in front of a buffalo, and start sketching
>suddenly I feel something pressing against my shoulder
>it's fujo-chan, one of the few people in the class I got along with
>she was standing in front of me drawing and decided to backpadal right where I was
>she loses her balance and falls down in a moment that feels like an eternity
>and doesn't get up
>she's holding her knee and crying
>ohfuckohfuck
>tfw she dislocated her kneecap and had to be carried out on a stretcher
>tfw the museum trip was cut short because of that
I just wanted to draw my fucking buffalo, man

>>5039516
>>5041841
How is his NMA course compared to the older one?

Also, general question: do Vilppu's courses have any prerequisites like knowledge in perspective, etc.?

>>5045794
I honestly don't understand how animation teachers can teach drawing other than the way Glenn teaches. It's almost like they have bad intentions desu

>>5047327
Ever heard of John K?

>>5021427
Basically this.
I can testify that the only thing you're really getting out of art school is a strict practice regiment (which you can do on your own for a microcosm of the price and or by just taking figure drawing classes) it's not like you're going to get any sort of revolutionary instruction or critique either as most of your professors are just going to teach directly out of textbooks that you could buy yourself.

The only thing that makes them worth it are the studio connections (nepotism).

To give you an example of how that shit works: I sent an application to a studio 4 years ago and was essentially ghosted no letter of rejection nothing (but for good reason though my art was complete shit) but later on, for shits and giggles, I tried sending them that exact same 4 year old garbage portfolio but using my school email. They responded essentially within a day ready to accept my request.

That left a bad fucking taste in my mouth.

>>5045794
Damn dude. I took Karl Gnass's class and the dude hates that fucking bitch. I can see why too.Teaching a buch of fucking artists to just ignore the fact that the human form is 3-Dimensional is fucking stupid.

>>5047729
Whose this female animator

>>5021208
If you want to meet girls get into fine arts, out of the 50 people in my class 4 are guys.
Also correct me if I'm wrong, but Art school is college, right? Eurobro here so I get confused when people talk about College and University. The way I understand it is: College is cheaper and offers less specialization and it's more about getting into working asap; University is longer more expensive and dives deeper. Is this right?

>>5021302
you get into the industry by having ties, not just by grinding fundies lmfaoooooooooo
literally ngmi

>>5047594
No

>>5041288
sounds like a besed teacher

>art high school (in Italy we have career-focused high schools)
>3rd year (I'm 16)
>technique class
>finish my work early, start doodling some naked girls
>teacher sees it
>"oh you're into erotic illustration, anon? Come to my table, I'll show you some stuff"
>shows me artists like Serpieri, Manara, Frollo and some french dudes I forgot the names of on his pc
>totally nonchalant about it, it was very cool desu
>invites me to one of his expos few months after
>I show up, I'm the only teen there
>it's all bizarre collages with photos of girls being tied up and feet close-ups

He was very cool, never did anything creepy; it's actually kind of charming how oblivious he was inviting a teen girl to his very explicit art expo. But I still can't let go of the fact I know the fetish of my middle-aged Technique professor

>>5047734
I think its Becky Bristrow

>>5048311
this wasn't too weird until the part where you brought up the fact that you're a girl. from the sounds of it he wasn't being a creep towards you, but still

>>5047729
In Glen and Karl’s generation it was definitely more important to draw with form in mind; they were training a large pool of artists going into hand drawn animation so they had to be able to draw characters on model in a variety of poses and movements. After that was mostly CG animation or more flattened Cartoon Network styles. Simpsons and King of the Hill still needed solid draftsmanship but as production moved to Korea it became less important in the states. But I’d think for such an expensive school they’d offer a more well-rounded curriculum, teach stronger fundamentals before having you break them. Instead we were all trying to be “edgy” with our drawings to get that thumbs-up from the new teacher or dazzle portfolio reviewers. Being young and impressionable it was hard to know what was really important, in those cases you really hope your instructors are setting you up for future learning. Today I’d recommend Karl Gnass or Will Weston, pretty solid instructors.

>>5048311
you should write tv series or something. pretty sharp twist at the end right there.

I went to school for mech engineering but my advanced thermodynamics prof was a locally reknowned erotic artist.

>>5048311
Are all italian teachers this based

>>5048311
He totes wanted to bang.

Also, be my gf?

>>5021208
>be me
>go to art school because I'm not good at anything else
>love painting in bright colours
>prof doesn't like colour, wants grey paintings
> I don't like grey paintings
>been doing grey paintings all semester
>gets frustrated
>spent too much money for this
>Prof gives assignment, painting that must include hands
>nows my chance
>buy giant canvas
>paint it bright red
>decide to paint giant dick, not to profs knowledge
>prof tells me I have to use photo reference and bring to class
>ok fine
>take a picture of me jerking off my bf
>bring it to class
>tape picture up on easel, no shame
>classmates can all see it, think it's funny
>prof keeps distance
>critique day comes
>put giant dick painting on the wall pic related
>I got an A on the painting

>non-STEM degree
>non-STEM degree AND entertainment related

wew. fucking. lad.

even if you are god tier, you will soon find that politics infest every aspect of professional life, and especially among artists. it is never about how good you are. i fucking hate normies so god damn much.

>>5049245
jeeezzuuussss

>>5048311
>feet close-ups

i'm dialing the department now

>>5049245
based god

>>5049245
Dangerously based

>>5021617
>lol I put myself under enourmous debt so I can be a druggie manchild faggot for a few years, and I got to know some djs and circus artists how cool is that?
The Am*rican college experience.

>>5021455
Gay and highly unlikely

>>5033524
Should art not exsist in spite of itself?

Polfag here
College is free in my country so I had nothing to lose. I studied graphic design at an Academy of Fine Arts.
>be 2014
>actually get maximum score and outcompete 120 people at entry exams
>think you're the shit
>classes start
>later turns out you're actually mediocre compared to your peers
>professors are old and think that design standards haven't changed since the 80s
>get told off all the time for drawing "cartoons" (i wanted to be an illustrator)
>huge emphasis on life drawing and painting classes
>avoid going to course if possible, do assignments at home
>most classes are boring as shit and listening to critique of other people's work drags on for 3 hours at a time
>get grades good enough to use erasmus money a maximum number of times (it's an international exchange program funded by the European Union)
>study abroad at some school in northern France
>tfw nobody can draw and you're a sensation for being able to draw a photo
>nobody speaks English and looks down on you for not knowing their amazing native language
>learn French up to about B1 level
>end presentation requires you to speak and embarrass yourself for 30 minutes, twice
>use the rest of erasmus money to get 3 summer internships in Portugal
>finish bachelor's degree at alma mater in 2017
>last internship lands you a job at a decent illustration studio
>move to Portugal, quit college before master's course begins
Fast forward to now I've been a freelance illustrator for 2.5 years and make globohomo art for foreign agencies. The only good thing college did for me was send me abroad. The connections I'd make at school would at best get me local jobs for shitty money, so in retrospect Im glad I didn't waste too much time there.

>>5021208
Well I have a Bachelor of Arts but it was more about modern design rather than classical art.
Anyways it's what you'd expect. Everyone smells like weed, teachers are always late, everyone got neon hair, the IT guys make fun of the arties and the arties make fun of them but you still gotta work together if you're so intent on making a videogame for a work project for some reason (woefully incapable of comprehending the work that goes into that).
A lot of people are creepily naive and act without any urgency even when it might be appropriate but I'll blame that on naive citykids straight out of school rather than the degree.

Lots of people passed while actually not being very good at what they do. Me included mind you, I'm trash. Not like it mattered anyways cause I can't find employment regardless of degree or not. Personal skill doesn't matter either, you need to be the cousin or son of someone working there if you wanna get in.
And then when I finally found a place to work at, Corona killed it.
Literally as it turns out, my former employer is dead. Well at least I learned a lot there.

Do you have to apply a portfolio to American colleges and then have an exam? Or do they just care about money?

>>5021208
Didn't go to an art school but I did take a "college-level" art class in high school and didn't learn shit for the whole year. Just go torrent courses and make your own curriculum out of it for fucks sake, It's way better, you can actually learn something and do it at your own pace, too. 99.9% of art schools are fucking expensive garbage anyway.

The only thing I liked in art class were the cutie, fresh out of high school art gf potentials. It’s too bad I’m a loser who can’t talk to girls.

>>5041288
holy based, wish i could have been there

>>5048311
based

>>5048311
It is illegal for you to view the contents of this site.

>>5041288
you forgot the punchline: that furry guy probably does commissions now and makes more money than you or any of your classmates. ZING!

>>5037752

Uh, John Lennon, duh...

>>5047327
>Glenn
He's not an animator

>>5057168
And you will never be a woman

>>5057171
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Vilppu
>He has worked as a layout artist on numerous animated feature films
He's a layout artist, not an animator.

>>5057176
Are you serious? We’re talking about methods of drawing here. Glenn teaches a constructive approach that allows you to draw from imagination. The new calarts faculty teach blind contours and flat graphic drawing and won’t teach you how to turn form in space, a necessary skill as an animator.

>>5057189
>Glenn teaches a constructive approach that allows you to draw from imagination
where can i find this

>>5021208
I absolutely hate doing exercises which does jackshit to improve my art skills. I still cringe every time I think about - the frustration and humilation that I have to waste my time on something I didn't give two shits about.

>>5021213
I went to art school. Though it was a very high art school (Emily Carr in Vancouver) and, at the time at least, it was not a great place for illustration or technical minded artists. It was very flaky.

I guess I don't have any interesting stories though, just a lot of experiences around artists trying to mimic art from the past century and failing to come up with anything meaningful, and then there were the sigh-inducing edgy artists with a real, hard, capital M message to their art.

One story though: It was a required course called Creative Waters and it was about the concept of "water" as a theme in art. Every day was nonsense so they all blended together but one moment has always stuck out to me. One class the prof decided we should all have a moment of silence... for water.

So we all had to sit still and silent while we thought deeply about water. ... I don't know about everyone else but all I could think about was how much each minute of this class cost us as students.

Oh another funny moment was that the main prof's husband died some years ago and she said during class he, "died as a result of the trauma sustained residential schools in canada" (tldr they were these indoctrination schools where they sent native kids to learn to be more white) so somehow he died as a result of the trauma of those schools.... welp it turns out he actually died from falling off a cliff. Not suicide. He literally slipped and fell when they were walking together.

We had a good laugh about that.

I really wish I had more positive to say about my time at the school... I guess there were a few classes that I felt like I actually learned something from, and there were a good amount of like minded students who were also into technical study. Sadly though, the school was mostly for people who kinda liked painting, but had no real direction so they say, "fuck it, I'm going to art school!" and the classes were designed for such students.

>>5059407
>We had a good laugh about that
idk if that was supposed to be a joke. I genuinely can't tell. Haha you're really funny dude?

>>5059463
When someone bemoans how their SO died as a result of long standing trauma from being taken away from his family for a bit to go to school to become white... yet no, he just fucking tripped one random day

Yeah it's pretty funny.

>>5021852
You can’t blame women. They’re all getting grifted and mindfucked by someone, it’s their nature as the weaker sex to imprint on and follow someone - it’s either the government, celebrities, their dad or their boyfriend. You should feel sorry that this girl fell prey to someone who didn’t have her best interests in mind... but then again, neither do most of the figures women look up to.
Inb4 incel rage - think of one woman in your life who has an original opinion or outlook that they didn’t get from their boyfriend/professor/snapchat/pretentious media/father/magazines/bloggers

>>5061019
That just sounds like a tragic delusion from a woman who watched her husband fall off a cliff. She couldn’t handle the pressure and stress, so her mind snapped. Do you not feel bad for her at all? This sounds really sad

>>5061147
This is why I'm so confused by the incel epidemic. Women are extremely easy to manipulate and will constantly seek your approval if you treat them like shit off the bat and are emotionally distant. Just let your inner autistic sociopath out and love her less than she loves you. It's what a woman really wants. Dick means nothing to women, it's easy for them to get. What they can't get easy is a guy who isn't a faggot simp. Knock her down a few pegs

>>5061160
woman wants a daddy

I remember back in my high school art class, there was this one goth girl that sat alone at the table next to mine.
One day we were working on some kinda project (I forgot what), and the teacher was was checking up on everyone, doing his thing y'know, when eventually he came around to the goth chick and looked at her notebook, and just bluntly proclaimed, "Ah, love potions, looking into brewing those?"
I had to physically stop myself from just whiplashing my head over to that table. And the teach went on about how he ALSO looked into potion brewing on occasion???
So yeah, that little event was burned into my memory, prolly the only thing that I can actually recall from art class.
Oh, and that one time the autistic kid played "Just Gold" by Mandopony over the speakers.
That too.

>>5021222
kinda
went to vidya and had concept art classes

>>5061165
This. Physically and mentally women are more childlike versions of men with udders and a womb. They are also more based because they are less cerebral (Apollonian) and more in touch with their animal instincts (dyionisic), for example feeling disgust and fear around incels - genetic detritus that based women instinctually avoid to stop the weakening and degeneration of their genes and danger to their tribe

But make no mistake. They are children. They are ruled by emotion, they lack a lot of the faculties of a man (literally - Visuo spacially, they fail try playing badminton or having an archery contest with one). I mean, picture a chart showing a scale from gracile to robust, and it would look like this
>baby skeleton
>child skeleton
>adult male skeleton
>cro magnon skeleton
>gigachad skeleton
Where would the average woman’s skeleton fall on that chart, disregarding muscle volume and brain mass?

WHY ARE THERE ZERO PLACES IN THE UK THAT TEACH EMPLOYABLE DRAWING/PAINTING/SCULPTING SKILLS?

ITS ALL POSTMODERN FEELGOOD SCAM BOLLOCKS!!!

Lots of tards smoking weed
T. Dutch art school

>>5061191
isnt pic related like 17yo?

My teacher painted over my entire painting with gesso because she thought it was terrible and made me redo the whole thing

>>5061213
No, she’s 18+

>Illustration for Commecial Application
>forced to fashion
>first did Imperial Japanese Fashion
>people liked them alot so I changed the subject entirely to fucked up silient hill style monsters
>did a class presentation with these blown up on a massive stage projector
>talk out bullshit about representation of female beauty standards but eventually realised how stupid it was and just out right said
>I just wanted to draw monsters

Because of the quality of the work and the masive written essay which they have hardons for I got a higher grade than most which pissed off most if not all the class.

>>5061234
whew, that was close, good thing an anon could confirm her age

I too think that art school is pointless for most but OP was asking for art school stories, likely of hilarious sperg antics and instead d/if/ks are just going off topic rambling about if art school is a meme.

Sad, was hoping for some good stories.

I remember the teacher in mine wanted to fuck this one particular student and it was apparent to everyone. He made her head of the art club and she was an insufferable asshole who had little talent or skill.

She was your typical 'draw Disney Princesses but edgy' type. Just absolutely cringe.

We had this autistic girl who drew her cat and it was actually pretty well done but disneybitch shat all over her because it wasn't a 'muh cute goth girlz' type of shit. She also tried to fuck this one dude who exclusively drew like Spawn fan art but he ignored her at every turn and sometimes brought his girlfriend yo class to hang out.

Girlfriend wasn't an artist but was one of those chicks who was pretty laid-back. This triggered the fuck out of Disneybitch lmao.

>>5021208
Not in an art school, but I take art classes.
>Last semester before quarantine. Class is split into ABCD groups for returning students. Ds are all older people.
>session after covid is announced, people are talking about it while drawing model
>old lady in Ds asks everyone to shut up. pregnant silence before argument between D students commences
>quarantine starts and we're handing in assignments as in college class forum
>same lady praises another D student's drawing for giving the model a "big, fat ass". No one comments on it.
>same lady gets into a short argument with an old man in last zoom class of the semester.
Pretty sure she has some form of autism.

>>5061207
Anon, that's not exclusive to art school. That's just the Netherlands. Lots of tards smoking weed.