/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Thoughts?

>>5017272
It uses a DVI cable, However not any DVI to HDMI/DP convertor will do so you might have to go through a few, otherwise you'd be lucky with your first one.
While the size is perfect for drawing, you might prefer a wider screen for your tool panel.
The pixels will appear fat and doesn't support full sRGB.

In all honesty, I would recommend getting an XP-Pen/Huion 22 inch equivalent.

Getting the my first drawing tablet the wacom PTZ-630G tomorrow/day after tmr, so excited hahaha. I regret not buying this sooner, this is something I have been wanting to have since highschool (and I am 28 now haha autch )and never bought. Can't wait anons. Take some of my energy

Can you use the Kamvas 22 Plus without a stand/mount? I'm using an angled desk, so I'd prefer to just lay the tablet flat since my desk is already at an angle.

>>5017526
No. Without something to keep it firm in place it won’t sit right. It’ll frankly be more trouble.

It’s a monitor first and a drawing device second. Do not put it on an angled area, not point in risking it slipping, falling, and breaking,

>>5017530
Glad I asked, thanks for the information anon.

>>5017530
do you have it? how do you like it?

I asked this in the last thread but didn't get any response. I'm thinking of getting the Huion Kamvas Pro 24 since it's on sale. What are people's experience using huion's tablets or more specifically that model?
I'm already a screen tablet user, my current tablet is the Yinova m19u (i think) which I got back in 2013. It has a glass screen but no anti glare or texture so its similar to drawing on an android tablet. I've used cintiqs before in studios and at school and I don't like the screen too much. How would the huion screen feel in comparison?

>>5017337
soo good :)

How shit is the Intuos Draw? I've been using one since 2015 and used a Bamboo before that so I'm curious about how much of a difference would I feel moving to something else. Especially since I'm from a third world country and have a low budget, so my options are just chink tablets and the S6 Lite.

>>5017565
Get the 22 plus instead, far better display

>>5017561
Ive used one for a while, I have no complaints. Im getting a cintiq pro 24 soon so Ill use my 22 plus at work. Great display, vivid colours. In raw specifications it has the best display on the market, even greater than the cintiq pros. But its only 1080p

ia have an intos4 m and often it feels too small.
now i have the opportunity to get an intuos3 large for 50€.

is this a good deal?

>>5017561
I’ve got a xp24, so I’m using that as a point of reference. I physically have no way I could comfortably use it without a stand. The back isn’t completely flat if I recall (not home right now.) so laying it flat on an angle table seems dumb frankly.

Im going to get a "One by wacom" very soon because it's the cheapest tablet I can get from a local shop and it seems like good value for money .
100 AUD (I'm getting it for about 80 because I know a guy)
Is it worth it?

>>5018051
It's a medium one too.

>>5018051
>>5018054
I want to get a budget one just to see if I like it, if I get a bit of money I'll get a better tablet.
I can get about 200 dollars off an intuos medium with the pro pen, but I'm not sure if I want to jump to spending all that money so soon when I haven't even started on digital art.

>>5018051
>>5018054
It's literally the worst tablet on the market and 80$ is a stupid ripoff for that.

Wacom make fantastic drawing tablets Intuos Pro, and they sell them for 400$ +100$ Art Pen +40$ surface film + 1$ per day for nibs.
These tablets are basically perfect.

And then there's the cheap garbage that is One and Intuos Pleb, they have different pens that use inferior pressure sensor, they have wavy lines, they are small, and basically everything about them is shit on purpose. It's not a competitive product, it's a bait to break the ice and get you to buy the intuos pro because one is shit.

Order a Deco 01v2 from Aliexpress. It's not as good as a PRO but at the very least it's not made to be bad on purpose, it's an actual product. It costs less too,

>>5018100
This comes off like a butthurt Chinaman
I guess I'll just get the intuos pro or something.
Not going to bother with the Chinese crap when I can get 30 percent off a wacom from my buddy.
Thanks for the effort though!

>>5018113
Good for you.
As long as you don't get the One or Intuos Pleb you're getting a good deal.

>>5018121
Yeah seems like there's quite a lot of crap in the market. I wouldn't be considering any of the wacom stuff unless I could get it reduced.
Seems like Wacom is kinda like the iPhone in this market.

its shit btw

>>5018203
Duh, only a retard that never had them says they are good.
Same as CRT

Brazilian anon here giving advice for brazilnons: No aliexpress a gaomon pd1611 tá por 930 reais nessa black friday. Aproveitem, ótima tablet.
NÃO fui taxado, muito feliz com a compra!

>>5018259
For the first years of LCD's entrance into the market they could not accurate get colors correct. That is why often in old documentaries where you see everyone using lcds, but the final color grading and testing before creating a master is done with on a crt. It was good and remained good for a long while.

The graphires were never good.

what is the smallest size for a non-display tablet that you would recommend? I never used a table before so I don't what is like to draw on it. is it comparable to draw in a sketchbook? because I have an a6(105 × 148 mm or 4.1 × 5.8 inches) one, should I buy something on this size?

Absolute benigger here
I was told to start with traditional pencil but I don't really wanna fuck with that
So I decided I will use a tablet, but never use ctrl-z or zoom in, or lasso or any other cheats, so as to imitate traditional limitations

Budget: very okay
Question is, screen or no screen? What're the advantages

>>5018284
At least an a4 size.
The smaller sizes are more suited for hand writing notes and OSU.

>>5018274
Baseado, valeu anon. 930 reais é um belo de um preço, ainda mais sem ser taxado, apesar que eu costumo ter azar com isso.

>>5018286
No screen is a viable option, the advantage is that there's fewer things to go wrong. No screen = no parallax, no color issues, better drawing surface and you know what monitor you're getting.

The downside is that it's gonna feel really fucking alien for the first time, like riding a bike gotta hit your head a couple times to figure it out.

>>5017769
:)

>>5018299
Espero que dê certo, anon. Se não fosse pelos chineses, jamais teria condições de quebrar esse monopólio da wacom e ter um display descente.
A tablet é pequena o suficiente para você levar para outros lugares, e grande o suficiente para desenhar (principalmente no clip studio paint, quando você aperta TAB e só fica o canvas de fundo). Quanto à calibração, o paralax na tela, vi na internet que era um inferno, mas não é difícil assim. Por exemplo, a minha veio já calibrada.
Enfim, espero que dê tudo certo, ver onde estamos desenhando nem se compara com tablets sem tela, não te torna magicamente em um ótimo artista, mas melhora muito sua arte, isso eu afirmo.

Thoughts on the Intuos 4?

>>5019830
bought an M size when it was released. mine developed dead pixel lines in both side LCD panels even though I rarely use it. still a good tablet overall.

>>5018953
>gaomon pd1611
Só comprar e já era, anão? Tem alguma firula pra fazer com a entrega? Tem que pedir pro vendedor declarar diferente?

>>5018286
if you dont like drawing with pencil you wont like digital drawing either.

>>5019920
The problem with the pencil is that it's a tool only good for practice and nothing else. You wouldn't get commissioned to draw pencil works, it's either ink or digital, or fucking oil, but not pencil.

The effort you spend on learning to work with the pencil is wasted and then you have to re learn from scratch how to handle the tablet.

Do any of you have paper taped to your screenless tablet? I tried it and kinda prefer it to the super smooth surface.

>>5019875
Só comprar. Cheque os reviews recentes, também, ninguém é taxado.

is that truth that huion are bad quality? i would buy one of these tomorrow h610
and the reviews in amazon are fine
whats the problem?
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=HUION+HS610&__mk_es_US=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&ref=nb_sb_noss

>>5020225
I think there's someone butthurt over China in here, because basically every review I can find says it's a solid brand.

>>5020225
>>5020300
Are you new to dtg? The OP is a schizo who thinks that this place is raided by an army of shills but at the same time its the same individual chink posting everything. He isnt an artist, doesnt draw thinks his opinion matters, its cute

>>5020225
>h610
Shiet you should have asked, I'd tell you to get literally anything else.

The problem with H610 is that it's a fifth update of an old design. It has all new guts and mostly works fine but the plastic enclosure itself is fucking ancient.
The negatives are
>micro usb
I had an old H610p with a rechargable pen. The USB was loose out of the box and it would lose the connection from a slightest touch on the cable. And then you'd need to restart CSP every time to correctly detect it again.
>somewhat squeaky and flexy body
The new ones are all slim and solid but that one would squeak if you lean on it.

All the new models have usb-C and even the cheapest chinese usb-C are reliable, but you went extra cheap to save 20$ and got a micro usb.
Well I hope your unit is better than the one I had.

>>5020330
>this place is raided by an army of shills
It's more than that.
He's fighting the good fight against the entire Chinese economy one tablet at a time.

If you pay attention he is shilling both against the Chinese tablets and against the "made in china" wacoms in favor of used wacoms and ipads or the korean Samsungs.
Samsung tablets are the only devices he's recommending to get new.

>>5020330
>>5020342
you shit up the thread far worse than OP

>>5020334
hey boy
sooo...have you tried some good huion? cause there are bad reviews too
this is for h1060
https://www.amazon.com/-/es/product-reviews/B01FTE9HS2/ref=acr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar
i want a graphic tablet cheap and durable and with 10inches

>>5020300
Lmao at these fags in this thread, it's thanks to the chinks that I'm able to afford a good display tablet here in third world country. Fuck Wacom and fuck all of your burguer overpriced brands. You guys are literally retarded, room temp IQ.

>>5020401
>you shit up the thread far worse than OP
I just call the shill a shill.

>>5020405
>this is for h1060
H1060 is also old and uses micro-usb so it probably shares the same problem.

My advice is to avoid micro usb like the plague.
Especially the chinese micro usb. I had a tablet with bad connection, had smartphones die from a faulty port, any sort of device with micro usb is cursed, micro usb is doomed to fail, every micro is a ticking bomb that will kill your device.

Usb-C are actually fine. I used multiple devices for years, I never seen a broken usb-C before.

All Xp-Pens have usb-c which is why I'm recommending them.
The newest Huions also have usb-c like HS611 I would comfortably recommend any of them.

So what is the best screenless tablet to get from Gaomon or preferably Huion? Huion has so many random brands and models I can't even tell which one is supposed to be their flagship one (like Intuos Pro) and which one are just random gimmicks like the one with the wheel

>>5020450
Also XP-Pen I guess. I just want to know what the equivalent to Intuo Pro for them is pretty much.

>>5020450
I just checked this for you because I'm that nice.
Even the latest Gaomon models use mini-USB so it's a hard pass. Mini usb is even worse than micro. I have never seen one that works right.

As for the Huion choose whichever model starts with HS, HS610, HS611. HS1161 these models have usb-C.

All of the Xp-Pens have usb-C.

As for the drivers i can only say I never had a problem with Xp-Pens.
The old huion drivers had some minor issues, like needing to be manually launched each time, but I have no idea about the new drivers.

>>5020452
>I just want to know what the equivalent to Intuo Pro for them is pretty much.

Xp-Pen have Deco pro which is fucking great.

Is wacom one good ?

>>5020475
no

>>5020330
> Are you new to dtg?
Yeah I posted in the first general thread yesterday, asking about budget no-display tablets lol.

>>5020334
Does this hold true for the H640p too? It's also an obvious older model since it uses micro USB but for its price I thought that was a worthy tradeoff, but the pen is no-battery and it still got good reviews in 2020 so I figured the micro USB is an ok tradeoff (I never had a drawing tablet before and it hasn't arrived yet).

>>5020515
1. I fucking hate micro usb. Micro usb poisoned my dog, micro usb bullied me in school, micro usb fucked my wife, micro usb shat in my pants and told everyone it was me.
I would never recommend it.

2. H640P is fucking small. The regular normal size is 10" by 6" It's fine and comfy. But this one is 6 by 4 inches almost half the size and small tablets are awful.
I absolutely don't recommend it.

>for its price
The cheapest tablet I can recommend is the old Xp-Pen Deco 01.
It's generally pretty good and has no problems. There's no tilt support, but it's not really important anyway.

Deco Pro Medium vs HS611 vs Q620M which is the best? Also is there a way to get a wireless version of the Deco Pro?

>>5020580
Deco Pro > HS611 > Q620M
Deco pro has some special sauce in it. diagonal lines are actually perfect like on Intuos Pro and the pen just feels better.

The wireless stuff is looks dodgy, only a handful of older models have it, I have absolutely no idea how reliable it is, what about the latency.
I'm not sure if the wireless function is worth it.

Just get a long cable if you wanna draw on a couch.

>>5020587
>diagonal lines are actually perfect like on Intuos Pro

AFAIK most other tablets have this diagonal jitter, but my Deco Pro doesn't.

>>5017254
>Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Retard here, can I connect it to PC? Or do you have to draw in an app and then transfer files between devices for final touches? I only want it for maybe making inking stop being a chore, I'm fine with my screenless tablet/PC otherwise.

Well boys intuos medium is on its way

Hows my station?

Also rewatching old naruto while I draw

>>5020794
How's life treatin' you in Australia?

>right now can get Deco Pro Medium for $230 less than the Intuos Pro Medium
>it's three inches bigger and has the double rotating track pad
There is no actual way the Intuos Pro is worth spending this much more right? Everything I've looked into online, including all the professional reviews, really just makes it sound like Wacom praise is all about brand recognition, political bias, and people just buying whatever is the most expensive thing just because they can.

How much better is the intuos4 over the intuos3? Anyone some experience/read something good?

>>5020816
its not. don't listen to the Chinese Wacom shills

>>5020816
You'd be absolutely insane

>>5021410
Insane to what? Buy the Deco or buy the Intuos in this situation?

Can anyone give a rundown on why the Cintiq 22HD is recommended in the OP, but the current gen Cintiq is discouraged? Do they have different screen qualities or something if I compare both 22s?

>>5021153
3 has the 4:3 ratio option, 4 has the 16:9 ratio, plus a scroll wheel. initially when new, 4 has a rougher texture eating the nib faster, but after a few months of frequent use, it becomes smooth. 4 pen has twice the sensitivity I think. 4 has LCD so may have to dead lines >>5019860, even if it eventually fails, it should still be programmable, just without the LCD display showing the shortcuts.

>>5020330
>>5020342
Fuck off retard. Nobody gives a shit about your boring drama.

>>5020816
That's because, as outlined in the OP, chinese shills run an aggressive online shilling campaign.

Nobody in the industry uses chinese tablets because they're unreliable, simple as that.

>>5021553
And this is based off of what evidence exactly?

>>5021563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6eJBgwcVmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA

They do this because it's their marketing strategy.
Wacom don't need to manipulate online reviews because they're 100% locked in as industry standard.

>>5021454
Theres too much "You're a shill" gaslighting for you to get a decent answer that isn't biased one way or another.

The Deco Pro works great, its the best screenless third party you can get, but its horrible if you don't like the Chinese.

The Inutos is an industry standard and the bare minimum entry allowance for most professional performances, but it has Wacoms name and technology refinement to give it the highest price tag.

If you need to get back to drawing and aren't applying to an art school, get the Deco. If you're planning on just showing off battlestation pictures and investing in proprietary Wacom stuff, get the Intuos.

They're both great, just depends on how broke/ racist you are.

>>5021568
The "Painful Truth" about drawing tablets is that you don't even need one because the best artists can paint shit using just a fucking mouse. I've seen better art drawn with a fucking mouse than the "skill level" of the battlestation threads.

Zoomers and ngmi retards blame their tools rather than their lack of ability.
>If I spent 2000 bucks on a tablet or the best brand I would draw well!!!
No you would just draw like shit exactly like this fucking retard who spends all his fucking time looking up youtube reviews and recommending wacoms/ipads to retards who are going to stop drawing within 1 week of not getting good. When has he posted work? Never.

Don't even bother listening to his recommendations. I bet if this retard who shills apple and wacom bought a chink tablet it would last for a fucking millennia because he never even draws, exactly like all the ngmitards in the battlestation thread. The best artist in the battlestation thread was an unironic furry who drew on a beat up intuos S small on a laptop that was literally falling apart.

PYW or stop looking for excuses on why you are a shit artist or kill yourself.

>>5021604
ok but pyw lol that's what I thought ROFL

>>5021604
damn he got dunked on

>>5021604
ah yes, the REAL artists use cheaply made shit that breaks on them. every great digital artist is wrong, instead you should buy Huang Chun brand off AliExpress

how about Wacom Cintiq 16 good or bad ?

>>5021604
c'mon chang, don't be sad. you know what'll make you feel better? post more of your washed out art like a few months ago. you've gotten better by now, right?

>>5021563
xp-pen update package with 'fishy' activity from a few months ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/XPpen/comments/hsje5h/trojan_warning_with_latest_drivers/

The intuos pro large smooth texture sheet hasn't been in stock for 4 months. The medium sheet wore down my nib noticeably after an hour.

>currently have an ipad air 3
>Tempted to buy a pro 12.9 4th gen for 900 and sell the air 3 for 350
Do I

>>5021568
>can't draw for shit
>blame the tablet
>your own viewers tell you that you fucking suck
>NOOOO YOU ARE ALL SHILLS
>lose all viewership
>channel is dead
>just shitpost all day on 4chan about the evil chinese

I dunno man every good artist that gets paid for their work and aren't a professional fulltime shill seem to like Xp-Pens.

Maybe you would too if you learned to fucking draw a little bit?

I am still using my 12 year old intuos 3 small.
I am getting a new tablet once this goes into shit. The drawing surface has some scratches on it, kinda bothering me sometimes.

Tell me what is a good upgrade.

>>5022372
Amy medium tablet is a good upgrade lol.
And Large is an even better upgrade.

>>5022362
>Hurr durr
>chink tablets are bad
>hasn't posted his shitass work in 3 months despite being told multiple times to
So we're going to keep deflecting, huh? Meanwhile, the chinks have artists like rei_17, gooks have shal.e and the japs have Posuka.

What does the west have? Literal shit on a canvas, taped bananas on canvases and fat LGBTQ+ whales with red noses.

>>5021928
>Hurr durr
>chink tablets are bad
>hasn't posted his shitass work in 3 months despite being told multiple times to
So we're going to keep deflecting, huh? Meanwhile, the chinks have artists like rei_17, gooks have shal.e and the japs have Posuka.

What does the west have? Literal shit on a canvas, taped bananas on canvases and fat LGBTQ+ whales with red noses which is what you're not even drawing. (Lol

>>5017254
>Cintiq Pro - Terrible value. The drawing experience might be good, but you're paying way too much for an unreliable product. Dead pixels are frequent, as are black screens of death.
I guess I'm just lucky then? Been using it for 2 years now without issues.

You guys from first world lack hardships that makes you get good. You think comfort is a blessing, but the venezuelan artist that got nothing to eat will for sure get god tier at art, when you, a shitter, still worries if you need to draw boxes or not.
This is not related to the thread, but get this free blackpill.

Ok so I narrowed down my first drawing tablet to four choices, wanted to know if anyone leans on way or the other on any.
XP-PEN Artist15.6
Huion KAMVAS Pro 13 GT-133
GAOMON PD1560 15.6 Inches
Parblo Coast10 10.1"

>>5022576
It's more of a lottery with wacoms shit

you pay a lot and either get something that works decent for a long time or get a fucking turd that's your problem, not wacoms.

>>5022614
Gaomon.

>>5022621
Dead pixels are covered by Wacom warranty though. The problem is sending it to them while waiting for a replacement, which can be a problem if you do art for living.

>>5022632
For the amount of money wacom stuff costs they better be on their knees ready to suck my fat dick but their support is kinda shit.
And their drivers are still a fuckfest.

It's a gamble, it costs a lot and you're up shit creek if anything goes wrong. That's the wacom experience. Outside USA? Even worse.

>>5022614
Xp or gaomon. If you can afford at least a 15.6 you shouldn't even look at any smaller screens.

>>5022632
>not having a cheap back up

>>5022576
>I guess I'm just lucky then?
Op is a lying shill see here >>5020342

>>5022596
> venezuelan

here's the real black pill. no matter your level of talent you'll always get paid minimum wage and put in a pool competing in a pool of other talented third-worlders. on the other hand, the first-worlder who is less talent in art can eventually work their way up the corporate ladder and get paid more than you make in a year to draw less and worse.

>>5022404
> 3 months

aww, you've been thinking of me while I've been gone? dunno who you've been talking to but it wasn't me. I've only been back this week.

How many years do tablets usually work before breaking down due to different issues?

My first cheap G-pen tablet lasted for 6 years before losing a chunk of sensitivity when touching the surface(it just doesn't react unless I press hard enough), probably dropped the pen too many times.

>>5022596
post your work skinnywrists

>>5017282
This fag did use a pic from google.

I have the Cintiq 21ux 2nd gen. and yes, it's still DVI but my gpu have DVI port so isn't a problem for me.

>>5022984
Bitch, one coom art is enough for me to eat like a king. Seethe more, boxhead faggot

>>5022984
And eventually, the companies will turn to look the 3th world like the IT companies did with India where there are more talented and less expensive artist ready to work for the half of pay and even that, they will live better than you due to the currency of their money.

>>5022383
Isn't large too big for most people? I thinking about getting a big one to try

>>5021503
Man kind of a disappointment to hear that knowing what a beast my intuos3 is. I kind of want to try out that rough surface but why bother if it's going to erode away anyway? Why not opt for the consistent experience? Btw don't the wide versions of the 3 provide 16:9 ratio?

>>5021503
I hear 2k sensitivity is noticably better than 1k, do you yourself notice it a lot?

Hello.
I have an old wacom tablet that I never used and I want to start drawing for money (including porn).
Please make a list of steps I'll have to do from the very beginning until the point of selling (which websites can I sell that?)
I thought of simply drawing away and copying stuff to intuitively get the hang of it, but I don't even know the basics and the name of styles so that I could Google them.
Also, how do you colorize after you drawed the black lines? I make a layer underneath and paint with it, but it's gross and the color often bleeds out of the black line

>>5023350
good luck

>>5023356
Fuck you, give me advice

>>5023350
Lurk more or go away

>>5022576
OP is a lying faggot who doesn't even draw and thinks that Apple is god's gift from heaven.

ordered my xp pen artist 15.6 pro from the website on Saturday and it came today
i really thought it would take way longer

>>5023530
website says 15-25 days, it came in 4

>>5017337
Bought another one for my mom as a gift

>>5022362
>I dunno man every good artist that gets paid for their work and aren't a professional fulltime shill seem to like Xp-Pens.
Except they don't, you're just being selective again, Zhang.

>>5022716
I have Intuos4.
>>5022979
>>5023437
Well, that makes more sense.

>>5021985
guess what? I bought the smooth and its still rough and wears the nib down

>>5021985
Wtf yo you have to buy texture sheet for intuos pro? You cant just draw on the smooth surface of intuos?

Is there a way to make my cintiq 16 more "portable" or wireless? the cable is so short

>>5023350
>i just want to skip to expert
fuck off and read the sticky

>>5024000
Which One

>>5024006
beginners guide

>>5021985
>>5023922
Let that be a life lesson never to listen to the actual sperging antichink faggot who never draws that inhabits these threads. Also you won't be able to purchase replacement nibs because Wacom deliberately fucked up the nibs. And also the last time I tried to get a replacement under warranty, Wacom customer service on the other end refused to honour it so I had to go to the brick and mortar store to get a replacement.

Purchase a box of plastic sleeve (or plastic folio) of decent thickness for example something like these https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61PV4qGRWLL.jpg (I use the keji plastic folio). I found thinner plastic sleeves work very badly because I draw through them so hard it tears through it.

You may need to cut the shorter side of the folio open with a pair of scissors and flip it inside out because the inside surface is slightly rougher than the outside as it's better for drawing on. Then I tape it up like this
____
__
So that the two uncovered ends of the tape are secured around the tablet snugly around it and your tablet won't get sticky from the tape because there's tape on the interior preventing it from getting sticky

My intuos nib hasn't worn down a single bit in 2 years despite the fact I often draw for like 10 hours in one day. Before that, a wacom bamboo I owned I only replaced the nib once in 5 years. And as a bonus, I can throw out the sheet every time I accidentally get food or juice on it because it was like 50 sheets for 5 bucks.

Some people may not like the feel of the plastic, in that case you will need to consider other options. Like buying nibs. Personally, I find the plastic better as it helps to prevent carpal tunnel syndrome since the pen glides instead of scrapes like nails on a chalkboard.

>>5024062
*fucked up the nibs so you can only buy the proprietary ones

>>5017254
>Microsoft Surface Pro - The N-Trig digitizer means you will always get wobbly lines.
I just bought myself a Surface Pro 7 for Christmas...
Looked up some videos of this issue just now and it looks pretty fucking bad.
I need the laptop for work, the drawing tablet was a bonus, but if I can't draw with it I would never pay as much as I did.
Are there any laptops that can double as a serviceable drawing tablet?

>>5021985
>>5024062
this is exactly why i don't want to buy this shit even though i really want to upgrade to the top of the line tablet.
but it's black friday and the intuos is on sale so i'm tempted once again. but then i remember the nibs and i get fucking angry.
i don't mind nibs wearing down if that's the route they want to go for, but the price per nib is fucking outrageous. almost to the point of being a straight up scam.

that being said i heard from some anon that you can tape paper on the tablet and that will make the nibs wear out slower. but in return you have to change the paper every week or so.

>>5024550
I somehow doubt the paper trick works because I used to use those thin plastic sleeves and I tore through the freaking plastic so quickly it was actually scary and A4 paper seems to be really thin. Well, not so much as "tore through" but you know when you rub on plastic a lot, it starts to leave etching marks and then the plastic starts to lift off and you press so hard grooves are left in it? I think with paper, it would start to get literally furry. And that furry paper might end up in your pen....

Maybe paper will work for you, though. It really depends on how hard you draw.

Another thing you have to be careful about is tape. You want to make sure that either your tape is not sticky or you make sure that the tape only tapes itself to surfaces that aren't your tablet. Also there's tablet protectors exist for wacoms etc but idk how good they are.

In any case, I feel like a cheap chinese tablet might actually be useful relative to line quality and how long they take to die vs an expensive tablet that lasts literally forever which you're drawing through screen protectors all the time and can never draw on naked in case you scratch the surface and it goes beyond superficial marks. And buying nibs which you can't get cheap facsimiles of (because you can't use shit like lawn trimmer in wacoms anymore) is also expensive.

And the problem with used tablets is that you don't know what the fuck the previous owner did to it and it's not covered under warranty. And people love to sell broken shit online. Plus if your drawing programs change one thing, they might be unusable because of the drivers.

Maybe the best option at the moment is an intus pro M with a screen protector. But then I read reviews of how people manage to draw through those as well... so they need more protectors as opposed to nibs yikes...

>>5024550
(cont)
and then the problem with ipadshit and stuff like that is the planned obsolescence so that THOSE die appwise rather than hardwarewise, even if the pens are (allegedly) super good and never EVER wear down.

So re:tablets, there is really no good option at the moment. If only Wacom had decided not be greedy fucks.

>>5024550
aren't there cheap chink nibs as replacement?

>>5024586
Have a look at how expensive the chinese replacement nibs for wacoms after they changed the fucking nib designs to try and stop third party nibs are on amazon before asking questions like this. At the rate people burn through nibs, it might be unironically cheaper to buy an entire cheapass tablet and have that tablet die in 3 months and then buy another one than it is to buy a few packs of nibs. Additionally, drawing quality is impeded by having screen protectors and other clusterfucks on the surface so whilst I might not give a shit about my decreased line accuracy, for other artists that rely on perfect lineart for things like manga, that could easily be a massive dealbreaker.

I can't navigate Amazon's black friday shop for the life of me. I was able to find a page that exclusively shows the Huion tablets on sale. Is there a page like this for XP-Pen, Gaomon, and Wacom as well? I'd like to see everything at once instead of trying to go through pages of random nonsense.

>>5024647
just browse and search amazon normally and the discounted stuff will be marked as such.

>>5024645
kek, strangely this popped up. a chink titanium alloy nib

>>5024751
Kek based.
But i'm not 100% sure about the working surface safety.
The perfect material would be delrin or ebony.

>>5024550
Felt nib on paper maybe?

>>5024761
reviews are more about the looser fitment but can be addressed with candle wax or tape method. one says it has a smooth flow to the surface. nib costs less than $4.

>>5024790
dunno, i don't have it so i can't test.
that being said, that clamp only comes with the paper edition right? any reason why you chose paper over the regular intuos version?

>>5024559
>And that furry paper might end up in your pen....
i figure he switched it before it got that bad. the guy said he used regular copy paper, but if you use heavier printer paper it should be fine i think?

>>5024819
>>5024751
that looks like something that won't wear down no matter what. but that's not a good thing because then it'll be the surface that will lose material instead (i.e. scratches).
i def wouldn't use a pen that is harder than the tablet surface itself.

>>5024832
that was I was also thinking, but if you put an ample protector between the nib and the wacom surface if there is one, and not have a heavy hand, it might work for long term use.

>>5024820
i thought i was gonna use it down the road, i turns out i haven't use it once since i got it last year, so i just use the grip for the paper lol , i wish i saved the money and got the slim pen instead.

i hate the nibs wearing out, it absolutely makes no sense for a company like wacom to not acknowledge the problem.

>>5024844
they probably won't. I'm sure they profit from those little things.

Does drawing on a tablet ever stop feeling like shit? I've had my kamvas pro 13 for months now, and I've forced myself to do some quick poses on it everyday in the hopes that I'd get used to it, but it's just not happening at all. The slippery surface feels like ass, parallaxing throws off my lines making everything skewed, the pressure response of the brushes never seems natural, and you can't overhand grip. When I feel like drawing I go for my pencil and sketchbook every time despite having this fancy gadget. Would sketching on paper and then photographing/scanning it onto the computer for lines/rendering be a viable workflow? I don't mind rendering on the tablet, it's just the sketching that I find to be a miserable experience.

>>5024922
Sorry brother, I went through the same shit. I ended up buying an intuos 3 medium off ebay for $40 and it's insanely better for me. The parallax on that huion is absolutely fucked.

>>5024844
>it absolutely makes no sense for a company like wacom to not acknowledge the problem.

Dude are you a retard?
It's the main feature, they sell the nibs and make money.
You get a tablet, and keep buying the nibs, and working surfaces too.

It's called razor and blades model.

>>5024922
Yeah you have that disconnect issue some people have. Display tablets aren't for you. You'd do better with a screenless so you don't have to worry about your hand getting in the way.

>>5024922
I still sketch on paper then continue digitally

>>5024926
>>5024844
they basically abandoned the budget market, which really sucks. it's understandable since there is no way they can compete with competitor prices.

a fucking tiny piece of plastic that costs as much if not more than real fucking pencil. and it probably wears out faster too. this is beyond scummy.

>>5024949
>they basically abandoned the budget market

Wacom never had any good budget offerings.
10 years ago wacom bamboo was a piece of shit
Today it's still shit except it's called Intuos

At the very least the chinks forced them to release the Cintiq non-pro which is sort of usable.

>>5017254
Hi, I draw on a Genius 8x6 that an uncle gave to me as a birthday present literally 12 years ago. I need to upgrade. I have around 200usd, wanted to try to catch some black friday deal, I'm completly lost. Help pls?

>>5025052
huion h1161
xp pen deco pro medium

>>5025052

Maybe you can find a really good deal for an intous pro medium too.

If not these are decent options >>5025063

>>5025063
>>5025079
Thank you so much anons! I'll see what I can find tomorrow

>>5025063
>>5025088

Don't listen to the chink shills

>>5025052
Holy shit this was my very first tablet. Thanks for that blast from the past.

>I have idea what to get
Too many options
I want to start digital but I have no idea what to get or how to start.
Don't need fucking Nasa tier equipment just need something to get the Job done
>Help?

>>5025091
Seethe. Tablets are affordable now, get over it.

>>5025116
>I want to start digital but I have no idea what to get or how to start.
Get a Deco 01V2
>60$
>pretty good
>no downsides

>>5025116
The Deco line is a really good go-to tablet. Deco Pro M is high end but still can be obtained for a little over $100. It's also quite large. You won't need anything else unless you ever want to go for one with a screen.

>>5020300
op is def schizo, even wacom products are manufactured in china.

>>5025091
you can't win schizo, you will and definently will suck huions and xp pens cock in agony. deal with it.

>>5025381
not even OP just hate china

Is XP-Pen really that bad? Most reviews say its almost on par with some wacom models. I was looking into buying a Artist 15.6 Pro, but now I dont know anymore.

>>5025592
>really that bad?
what makes you think that out of curiousity?
the wacom shill?

>>5025592
Theyre alright. XP and Huion styluses arent as "sensitive" as wacoms pens. I use the quotes because after having compared the pro pen 2 on the cintiq pro 24 with the pen on the kamvas 22 plus, the only difference in feeling is that the non wacom pens seem to have a built in stabilizer. A very slight one, but its a teeny tiny delay. You get used to it instantly and it actually helps with drawing smoother lines, but the delay is there.

Wacoms only good products are the cintiq pros, but they offer shit value for money, in all honesty. You get far, far more bang from your buck using the alternatives, especially for non displays, the intuos pro line is shit.

>>5025609
Naw man Im just a poor boy looking for a nice cheap drawing tablet with a screen. Might as well ask here for help so here goes:
Budget: 1000-1500PLN
Location: Poland
Type: Either display or portable, whichever will be better for the buck
Size: Honestly dont care too much about that, just not comically small or comically large
Other information: Im just starting out drawing. I think thats it.
Previous equipment: None

>>5025592
Hmm let's see
>every review online praises them
>high review average on every website that sells their products
>countless people across the world use them and have made excellent art with them
>deco pro is probably the second most praised and recommended screenless tablet just after the intuos pro
>with absolutely no evidence beyond manufacturing defects (which happens to 1% of virtually all products by all companies), there are people adamantly against XP-Pen not because of the quality of their products, but the race of the people who made them
You tell me. Wacom's products are usually better than their competitors, but only by a small margin. Despite this, their products are also two times the price of the competition due to brand loyalty. They are like Apple. They charge more just because they know people will pay more out of brand recognition. In no world are Wacom products $300+ better than the Huion and XP-Pen equivalents.

>>5025616
>>5025621
Thats what I was thinking, literally just buying the brand and the logo, just like apple on overpriced technology. If one of you guys doesn't mind, could you maybe help me out with picking some nice tablet? Or maybe I should just stick to the artist 15.6 pro?
>>5025620
Thanks in advance!

>>5025632
Deco Pro Medium is the way to go if you want screenless. I have no idea for their screen products. All their stuff is on sale until the end of November though so that might help you narrow down which ones you want.

>>5025642
Im not sure if I wanna go screenless, especially since Im a total /beg/. Seems like the disconnect would be too much.

>>5025632
artist 15.6 pro seems to be the go-to option for a display tablet in the budget range.
>>5025645
but knowing you're a beg dont see why you would shell out that much regardless. youll get used to a screenless fast. a display tablet wont make you a better artist.
i recommend the deco pro unless you have money to throw around

>>5025647
I actually do have money to throw around and I could use another monitor, so why not! With black friday and a 500PLN "coupon" (long boring story) I thought I could go crazy a little and just buy a display one.

>>5025654
You would get far more value buying a Deca Pro and buying an actual high quality computer monitor though. Then you can use it for all sorts of things. If you really have a lot of money you would probably be better off buying a high end tablet so you can actually use it on the go.

>>5025654
its not really usable as a monitor using the included stand. unless you dont mind a monitor almost flat on your table

>>5025661
wait don't quote me on that
i haven't actually opened mine yet, but i assume the stand isnt too hot

>>5025657
>>5025661
>>5025665
Yeah, the stand might be an issue, but I can always just buy a third party one thats higher. Also that bit about another monitor was sort of a joke, I already have 2 pretty good monitors, so a third one might be a little bit too overkill, but hey 3 is better than 2. I honestly dont see myself liking a screenless tablet at all, I just feel like it kinda misses the point of simulating drawing on paper. Also, what tablet do you have in mind? The iPad Pro 12.9 2nd Gen from OP seems pretty cool and its kinda cheap.

>>5025674
you do you then man
if you want a display one then the artist pro is good for the price. just don't miss the sale

>>5025695
definitely will and thanks for all the help! I really appreciate it.

>>5025695
One more question, do you know anything about this new Innovator 16 tablet? It seems to be a little bit better and in my budget range. Do you think I should go with this one, or still buy the Artist 15.6 Pro? Another question, should I buy the Pro version of Artist or the normal one?

>>5025746
innovator is really just the same thing but thinner with slightly better color gamut
not worth the price increase but technically it's objectively better
the non-pro has an unlaminated screen which leads to worse parallax. also think it has a battery pen? and without tilt to any degree. also no scroll wheel

>>5025763
Alright, last last last question. I just checked out the Huion Kamvas Pro 16 and its cheaper on the Polish market than the Artist 15.6 Pro and it seems like the specs are exactly the same. Do you think its worth it?

>>5025767
haven't tried the huion so i can't comment sorry
there are plenty of answers to that question online though it seems
the kamvas pro 16 seems to be significantly more expensive in canada also

>>5025785
Yeah, from what I've read it seems like they're both pretty on par and considering the Huion is cheaper, I'll just get it instead probably. Again, thanks for all the help!

Is the Huion 950P any decent

>>5018203
I have one and yes I agree it's shit.
marginally better than nothing at all I guess.

>>5026011
prove it

>>5018203
An item for a museum

>>5017254
are there any generic screen protector that work with cintiq 16 (non pro)? I recently replaced my healing shield but the surface cracked right away for some reason.

>>5025592
man's here is correct >>5025621

>>5025988
it's pretty good

>>5025988
I have it and I love it, the surface is super smooth. The pen is really light and I don't like that but it does the job. I can recommend it.

Worth the flip?

>>5026308
>huion

no

So I'm confused, does the tip from the sticky to buy weed whacker trimmer wire, for cheap nibs, not work anymore?

>>5024925
>>5024929
>>5024931
Thanks. Guess I'll check the classifieds.

I have an xp-pen 12.
I got it this year, used it for about 5 months.
I like it but it has it's share of problems.
Like paralax when writing words or my computer not recognizing it and I have to reinstall the drivers.
I was thinking of getting the wacom one, it's pretty cheap because of black friday, should I?
Would you?
I feel like if I used my current tablet for a while it would be okay but I only recently got it, so I feel like I would've wasted quite a bit of money.

I got a samsung tab A 10.1 a month ago.
Can I use it for drawing?
What pens can I use for it?
What programs should I use for jt?

>>5017254
Have an iPad pro second gen and heard Clip Studio Paint Pro is on sale for $25. I use an app called EasyCanvas to connect to (completely legitimate copy I swear) of Photoshop, but I heard professional manga artists (the medium that I want to mess around with) primarily use Clip Studio.

Is it a good investment on iPad? Is it a good buy in general or should I just stick to EasyCanvas + Photoshop?

>>5026505
Its probably s-pen compatible, its wacom EMR so you can probably draw with it. Clipstudio has become available for Samsung specific android platforms, but its a subscription based apps.

>>5026504
Wacom drivers also die frequently so you should invest some time in learning to write a bat file which you can double click to restart the drivers

>>5026308
>350$
It's a must, grab it while you can.

>>5026504
The One is worse than the XPs, objectively. In stats and performance.

I would suggest sticking to screenless if you can't afford to upgrade. Alternatively, if you need a screen so badly, just get an iPad.

Is it worth? I really want a 22in since its much larger than my 11in ipad Pro, but no experience with gaomon

>>5026967
The kamvas 22 plus is going for the same price and has a very good display. In terms of raw specifications, it has better performance than the cintiq pros, you may need to calibrate it though

>>5026967
I'm going to say no for mostly the same reason as >>5026982
Gaomon is 3rd in the offbrand race after XP and Huion, but theres not really many other competitors after that. They're not bad but theyre, to my knowledge, not as good as the Huion equivalent who is the 2021 model rather than the Goamon model theyve had for the last 2 years. Its older tech and I don't even think they have tilt support.

I say Huion for the post sale tech support.

>>5025592
>Most reviews say its almost on par with some wacom models
Most reviews are shills. Have you really not figured that out yet?

XP-Pen is, and always will be chinese garbage.

>>5026919
and you're a dumbfuck chinese moron.
"Stats" like pressure sensitivity mean nothing, and you don't know what performance means, moron.

>>5027092
>One reportedly bricking on people because the drivers don't recognize Wacoms discount pen
>OP never mentioned Pressure sensitivity so where is this straw grabbing coming from?
>OP suggested an iPad therefore is a chinese moron

>>5027086
>Most reviews are shills. Have you really not figured that out yet?
So how much is Wacom paying you so I can start shopping for sponsors.

Looking to buy my first iPad Pro, but can't tell if there's any merit worth the $1000 extra for the 4th or future 5th gen that the 2nd can't provide. 5th especially intrigues with the projected addition of mini-LEDs lining it, but that's a few months out and will cost $1650+ vs a refurbished 2's $600~

Anons, I'm interested in pic related (Gaomon PD2200). However, I am very paranoid of chink products but at the same time I don't want Wacom to keep jewing the hell out of me for products which have also taken a nosedive quality wise (I own an Intuos Pro and the USB port died just 5 months after my purchase).

I know Huion its out of the question because every single Huion reviewer is a paid shill with no exceptions, but is Gaomon really the same? A couple of guys who are not even Y*utube reviewers said PD1560 was unironically good but I wanna hear it from people with more unbiased expeirence.

Not about tablets, but I wanted to ask, do I need a dedicated GPU for drawing? Or is it better to just buy a decent CPU? I'm not very tech-savvy and the stuff I read online is confusing.

Thinking about Wacom One? Thoughts?

>>5027414
>buy a decent cpu
are you building a PC?
I suggest having a workable GPU and a good CPU

>>5027467
save your money.
either buy something better in the price range from competitors or save up and get a cintiq.
Wacom one is nothing short of a scam

Hi guys I am literally retarded, I'm such a retard
I did not read the thread and I'm going to ask the same question that 3 thousand anons already asked!
Is the wacom one great????????

>>5027489
Why does the One suck compared to the Cintiq

>>5027499
pretty sure its the wacom shill feigning ignorance. hes posted the same thing like 5 times in the past 2 threads

Is the deco pro much of an improvement over the deco 03? I can get the pro for about $100 right now and the 03 for about $75

>>5027467
>>5027509
Don't worry, you got replied to by Chang. He just wants you to buy XP Pen and Huion.

The Wacom One is fine if you're on a budget.

how do i stop that annyoing circle from happening

>>5027176
Wait for the 5th. Also how do you even know it’s $1650? You work at Apple? It’ll most likely only be around $1100-1200 unless you’re getting a bigger capacity model.

>>5027878
apparently it happens when i hold the click and then it automatically right clicks. how do i fix this shit, didnt find it on the settings

>>5027890
Yeah, just basing it around higher capacity 4th gens. I'll probably wait, as the 5th seems to have a real upgrade compared to 3rd and 4ths minor shit.

What portable tablet should I buy?

>Budget
Budget is pretty flexible, and I could get the iPad pro if that's really best.
>Location
New England USA
>Type
Portable android or iPad
>Size
12 inches seems abut right. I have a 13 inch Cintiq, and I hardly use the thing because it's not portable and quick to set up, but the size is good. 10.4 on the S6 Lite seems just a bit too small.
>Other info
I'm leaning heavily towards the Galaxy Tab S7+, because in general I've hated iPads when I've used them, but I'm wondering if I should suck it up and deal with iPad OS because that gets me access to Procreate / Artstudio Pro / Affinity Photo / Affinity Photo.

On Android, Super Display let's you use a tablet or phone as a pen display. I've used it on My Note 8, and it feels almost like a tiny Cintiq. I believe there's similar software for iPad, but I haven't used it. This is useful for interfacing with Photoshop / Illustrator / Zbrush and such on my laptop when traveling without having to set up my cintiq. I worry about similar software with the iPad because the Apple Pencil lacks the side button the S Pen has, and I actually use that quite a bit.

>Previous equipment
As mentioned, I have a 13 inch cintiq and a Note 8. The Cintiq is about 5 years old, and has multitouch

Basically, I'm wondering if the exclusive software for the iPad makes it worth getting over the Tab S7, and whether using Duet Pro to use it as a Pen Display to substitute for a Cintiq while traveling is as viable as Super Display on Android, which in my use so far is remarkably close to a Cintiq.

Thanks!

>>5027808
honestly between the build quality, pen improvements, and the touch pad, the Pro is worth the extra $25.

>>5027956
pen settings, visual effects off
or just turn off windows ink if you have that on
it's some shit to do with windows ink for sure though

>>5019920
You didn't read my post and instead invented "anon doesn't like drawing with a pencil" from the innercosmic cogs of your mind, the great neural forever
I never implied it

>>5020788
Well boys intuos medium is lost in the mail

>>5028050
haha, the girl on the bike destroyed this painting, why is she coming out of the side of the road and is going to the other side to ride on grass

>>5027999
>Affinity Photo / Affinity Photo.
It's shit.

It's a photo editing app for desktop. It's not worth it on the iPad.

>>5028029
Still chinese rubbish, shill.

>>5028050
file a report, the post office will track that shit down

>>5027999
You can use EasyCanvas on iPad as a Super Display Alternative for pairing to Windows. I use it as a Cintiq that way with CSP desktop.

>>5028050
based fedex

>>5028119
What do you think of the exclusive iPad creative software? (Procreate / Artstudio Pro / Affinity Photo / Affinity Design / anything else I'm unaware of)

Do they do anything huge or game changing that I'd be missing out on if I went with Android on the Tab S7 with access to photoshop on the desktop?

>>5028208
Procreate is a bit lacking if you need all of the Photoshop features in painting, that may change in the future since the AS M1 chips are out. As for Affinity, if you’re used to PS/Illustrator/Indesign/Lightroom etc Adobe just can’t be beat, you’re better off using the iPad as a Cintiq connected to a PC instead of a standalone device. 3D is usable if you use ZBrush and Blender connected to PC. The only program that is better in the iPad over its desktop counterpart is Medibang imo, but there’s always CSP.

The problem with Android I guess is fragmentation from my experience (but don’t quote me on this, try to do more research). An update will more likely cripple your workflow if it’s made for say the Tab S8 in the future if they are using different hardware.

>>5028231
Thank you very much for your thoughts on the software. If nothing's gonna beat Adobe, I'm pretty comfortable getting the Tab S7+. Your points about iPad being less fractured make sense, but since no widely distributed android tablet has a stylus on par with the S Pen, it's more iPad vs Galaxy than it is iPad vs android as a whole.

Galaxy devices get 3 years of updates, and on the android side of things, galaxy tabs with s pens are the primary target for creative software.

Everything is pretty assured to work for at least 3 years, which is enough to get my money's worth, and I expect it to work past then. If it doesn't, I guess that will be a lesson learned.

Again, thanks for your thoughts on the software. That was most of what had me on the fence.

>>5028059
yeah, bike and girls needs to be skewed to align with the road then placed a litlle closer to the pole.

Is there supposed to be a new ipad pro soon? Been wanting to upgrade to the 4th gen but seeing no actual good sale on black friday made me decide against it. 100 bucks off isnt much when I also need to buy a 110 dollar pen and case. Maybe I can just wait it out and get the newest shit

>>5027401
>single Huion reviewer is a paid shill with no exceptions

No one fucking thinks this apart from the meme schizo OP.

Several actual fucking artists, not career reviewers, but artists have praised non wacom shit, because guess what, they work. That triggers some people for whatever reason, but it means that wacom will have to improve or its fucked, which is great for all of us.

https://youtu.be/NMmKvPUsbFg

>>5027467
>>5027509
Nevermind the schizo OP, the wacom one sucks because every wacom product that doesnt use the pro pen 2 is a waste of money, since its their main strength. It also has a shit contrast ratio and colour gamut, so you'll have to swap your image to your main display to check what youre actually painting, then bring it back to adjust while trying to remember what it looked like coz again, the ones colours are all fucked.

Its also too small.
>but muh mobile

You'll be lugging around a laptop anyway. If you truly want mobility, get an ipad/galaxy, so you can be a showoff in a starbucks or whatever the fuck. If youre just moving between offices, then a laptop and screenless will cover everything.

>>5028390
>Nevermind the schizo OP, the wacom one sucks because every wacom product that doesnt use the pro pen 2 is a waste of money
You keep saying that, yet you shill chinese garbage, idiot.
Even Wacom's non-pro pens blow your chinese crap out of the water, and it's been proven countless times.

Which pen should I buy to mess around on my Pixel 3a?

>>5028524
No they dont, and no it hasnt. I bet if you were forced to not use "idiot" or "moron" in a post youd literally have a mental breakdown lmao

fucking schizo

>>5028556
You literally are a chinese moron though. Mindless denial gets you nowhere.

>>5028583
No way I can prove you wrong without doxxing myself, and my word obviously doesnt mean shit. But thats okay, because yours doesnt mean shit either.

>>5028546
Pls, respond.

>>5028269
I've been emulating never updated old versions of android from six years ago since 2017 and have never run issues with apps whereas my years newer iphone which was never updated can't even browse the fucking web or install any apps

Has anyone used the galaxy S6 It's right at my budget and 4 miles away I'm very tempted to jump in the car, my intuos s is on it's last legs here.

>>5028390
>>5027842
Does it matter if I get the 16" or the 22"? Kinda eh it has only a 1080p display when it should have like a 1440p at this size.

>>5028943
16" is shit.
22" is worth it if you value sketching with your shoulder. Otherwise 13" is fine.

>>5028943
You only spot the pixels if youre looking for them.

>>5028367
apple really doesn’t do big discounts

>>5027509
amazon reviews complain about the poor display+pen and recommend getting an ipad if you're looking for a tablet in that size.

I bought the S6 lite. Bretty good tablet so far.
What are the go to drawing apps?
And what do you use to transfer stuff to your PC?

>>5029004
How is it really. I need to know if I should get the s6 over another wacom.

>>5029015
I didnt draw with it yet, just did some writing. its why Im asking for some apps.

>>5029051
Krita and ClipStudio are the main ones form what I gather.

I set my wacom intuos pro express key up so i can press one button to make a new layer but this window pops up every time how do i get this to go away so i can just keep working?

I want a tablet with a screen. Should I get a graphics tablet that plugs into your computer, or like an Android or iPad? What are the advantages of both? If I go for the latter, what features should I look for to know if it's suitable for drawing?

>>5029089
Since there isn't a keybind without the dialogue you need to make an action. Look for Actions in the windows tab, disable w/e default ones it have just in case. Make a new action, give it a keybind using the F keys + ctrl or shift in that dialogue. As soon as you make that keybind it will be recording any action you do, so just create a new layer in the layer tab, then stop the recording. Now just assign the keybind on your express keys.

i don't understand how people draw with regular tablets. the first tablet i ever got was a wacom bamboo as a highschool graduation gift from my parents in 2012. i found it very frustrating and i decided digital drawing wasn't for me because i could never do it well. many years later, around 2018, display tablets were finally affordable so i got a huion kamvas 13 with some disposable income i had and it made all the difference that i could now draw directly on the screen rather than drawing on one surface while looking at a screen somewhere else. i'm still not amazing at drawing, but at least i don't struggle against the hardware.

also does anyone have a 1080p tablet in 20 or 22 inch? i decided on a 16 inch tablet as an upgrade but i was originally looking at the kamvas 20, but after asking around i heard from a few people who have them that the low pixel density is super annoying to look at. from what i gather, at that size you should only settle for minimum 2K resolution.

>>5029122
I think you typed 4Chan into your browser instead of Google.

>>5029201
The s6 is 250 right now and I too am very anxious to get a straight answer out of you faggots on the performance vs regular tablets. I cannot find a reasonable review and have been searching for over an hour. So he isn't the only one.

>>5029221
>Thats still a YOU problem.
You have a choice between shills on the internet or your own ability to judge a risk.

Youtube reviewers get sent shit for free, reviewing on youtube is a JOB for them, yes, they're shills.
People here buy shit out of pocket, but you can't believe anything said on the internet, can you?

Look at the specs. Watch the reviews on silent if you just wanna focus on the performance. If those align with what you want and are within your budget go for it.

Otherwise:
Screenless: Intuous Pro M or Deco Pro M.
Screen: Cintiq Pro, XP 15.6 Pro and larger, Kamvas 15.6 and larger.
All in one: Ipad literally anyone, just fucking buy an app and draw.

Wacoms drivers can be wonky and just not work, nibs wear very easily, lots of proprietary investing required to have a long lifespan.

XP has okay Driver, okay pens, okay screen. Theyre affordable, but third party. Same with Huion.
iPad has procreate and some other shit so its okay and S6/7s are not as good as the iPad but they work.
Any other details you need are based on prefrence.


not that it matters because I'm a shill on the internet so this information is moot. :)

Is this what my settings are supposed to be?

>>5029283
I think you're fine. only real difference is I have color space and you have temperature, but should be okay.

Just got a Intuos pro finally, the surface is way rougher than what I used to use. How long would it take for that to wear down a nib? Is the smooth cover wacom makes any better?

>>5029353
1) if you feel pressure or numbness in the finger you use to push down on the stylus after 15 minutes adjust the pressure sensitivity, its a digital stylus not a crayon.
2) taping paper or clear sheet over the sensor area

>>5029383
Haven't felt any numbness in my fingers as I don't press that hard. But I was wondering if the smooth cover was good, don't really want to just tape paper over it. Thanks though.

Thoughts? I would keep it to use with my phone.

How do I clean my cintiq screen? After using it for 3 days straight to break it in, under the ceiling light it's noticeably black/smudge/greasy (idk wtf to call it) wherever I was touching the most.

>>5029671
alcohol

>>5029261
What makes the Deco Pro so much better than the rest?
My options are:
>H1060P for €50
>H1161 for €80
>Deco Pro medium €140
The small deco pro was on sale for €75, but I figured it's too small. The only real upgrade I see over cheapest option is the wheel/touch slider.

>>5029676
You're not tricking me, right anon?..

>>5029695
no. use isopropyl with the lowest concentration of water you can find. you can get 99% medical grade on amazon

>>5029695
Alcohol is what's in most screen cleaners, it's used to clean electrical components even because it doesn't leave a residue like water does and it evaporates at room temp pretty quickly.

>>5029684
Build quality, touch wheel, tech support.

H1060P is also a solid choice if you're on that strict of a budget. Screenless tablets are nearly identical. The better the bud quality the longer it should last under average wear and tear.

Use the Amazon trick if you aren't sure.

>>5029695
It can absolutely murder certain kinds of plastic, like acrylic. Naphta is another option.

>>5029699
>>5029701
>>5029713
Well I'm too scared to try it now. I'm just going to scrub it real hard with a microfiber cloth.

>>5029713
>>5029717
Cintiqs screens arn't acrylic or plastic, theyre glass/etched glass.

>>5029695
i use rubbing alcohol on my eye glasses and phone. zero issues

>>5029712
what is the Amazon trick

>one day left on the ipad pro 100 dollars off deal
Fug lads I really wanna but it would still cost me over a thousand bucks
Anyone have experience selling apple shit on eBay? I'd have to sell my air to get some money back too but I know people scam there.
I wish I could sell my xp pen 15.6 pro as well buy I'm not even sure if the pen is good, I put in a new nib and it wasnt getting sensitivity, then I put in the worn down old on and it was working again. Fucking chinks

>>5029712
I think I'll probably just go for the cheapest one then.

For what it's worth, I see that the Deco Pro seems have proper android support, but I don't think I would use that. The medium one is only €100 directly from them too.

>>5029745
>Anyone have experience selling apple shit on eBay? I'd have to sell my air to get some money back too but I know people scam there.
It's always a gamble.
Had a buyer steal $500 from me with a chargeback scam.

>>5029894
What the fug
eBay doesn’t do shit about that? They claim they have buyers protection
Or was it not with eBay?
I could just be a retard and keep my air 3 since it’s ideal for reading manga, but then I’m down 400 bucks

>>5027401
>>5026967
I bought the Gamon PD2200 so feel free to ask questions but in terms of quality you definitely get what you paid for. The screen is thin so the offset of the tip t most is 1 or 2 millimeters and barely noticeable. You also have to calibrate the screen when you first get it.
The screen isn’t touch screen and the pen doesn’t have an eraser. The pressure sensitivity is great though and the screen is textured so it feels great to draw on.
Again if you have specific questions I can answer but I do love the tablet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5qfPHt0Pg0

>>5029910
buyer waited around 190 days to file an unauthorized purchase with their bank.
the bank agreed and paypal has to follow the decision from the buyer's bank.

>>5028621
That sounds about right, which is why I'm not terribly worried about the S7+ becoming outdated and not supporting what I use in any near term future.


>>5028911
I haven't used the S6, but I have a Note 8, and the pen tech is the same. If your coming from a Wacom pen, it uses the same EMR tech, and you'll feel right at home.

If you already have a pc with desktop design apps, I thoroughly recommend checking out Super Display. It let's you use your android tablet as a pen display for your PC. I have a Cintiq, and the experience is very similar.

As for native android apps, it should be great for Artflow, Medibang, Infinite Painter, etc.

Really mostly comes down to whether you feel like a 10" is the right fit for you, and it you work with a ton of players, you might want something more powerful. Hard to beat the S6 for its price, though.

>>5029004
My favorite for casual sketching is artflow.
For painting, Infinite Paint is quite good.
I'm just getting into Medibang, and it seems really good and capable, but the interface takes a bit more to get used to.

Apps I've heard are great but haven't used enough for s firm opinion:
-Clip Studio Paint
-Krita
-Ibis Paint

App for connecting to a PC as a pen display to use with desktop software:
Super Display - I've only been using this for like a week, but performance is great. And feels almost just like using my cintiq. 100% check this out if you already have a PC.

>>5029004
CSP from Samsung Store (a few months trial)
Mediabang
Artflow
Concepts
Artrage
Infinite Painter
Ibis Paint X
Autodesk Sketchbook
and more
I also bought an S6 Lite. Every app is somehow different so just choose a few that suit your style.
You can also download the apk files of the paid apps for free, just web search.
I just usually transfer via usb cable. You can also use a cloud service if you want.

Huion Kamvas 16 has a $75 dollars off coupon on Amazon for cyber monday, worthwhile? Brings the price down to about $250

>>5030338
Oh, and apparently the pro version has a $100 off coupon, so about $300 dollars

>>5029984
What a cunt. It should be an absolute no after 90 days. Lying through your teeth 6 months later to scam someone is just obsessive
Systems are so fucked because of kikes like that

>>5030342
Still crap

New thread

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>>5030346

>>5028044
worked thans

is the wacom ONE any good?im poor

>>5031411
>is the wacom ONE any good?
From what I've read, no. Also, try the new thread. This one's past the bump limit and will be gone soon

New thread:
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