/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>5015718
Do you have the finished drawing of that?

>>5015718
No fucking way that op pic is real and unironic, no fucking way

booba?

Hi anon, what do you think? Any suggestions?

>>5015802
How much dick does she suck?

>>5015813
Mh not a lot I guess

>>5015818
You need to improve the amount of dick she sucks, I suggest some irl studies

Any critique is welcome. I really suck at hands and posing.

>>5015802
- You need to practice hair dynamics
- The contour shadows on the face are far too dark in comparison with the overall values of the painting
- the way and places those whisps of hair fall on the woman's face is really unflattering and makes her look like an alien drag queen

Crit me you sons of bitches

>trys to draw animu head
>fucks up proportions endlessly

>trys to draw rounded head
>looks way too fucking big and out of place with the rest of the pic

how the fuck do i draw heads? here's what im working on atm if it helps

>>5015873
are drawing with mouse?

>>5015873
Post a head you drew

>>5015877
no, but does it matter?

>>5015882
i never save my shit, only reason i had a pic to post was because i was working on it as i posted

>>5015884
if you areusing your mouse you are a fucking retard, just use a pencil/pen it's 100 times better for your skills, your drawings look like a 1 day beg, go grind some fucking fundies before thinking on drawing anything everything in that pic is beyond trash no offense.... ugh...

>>5015886
Start saving it, make a folder now and put all your drawings in it.

If you don't have a head drawing saved, draw a new one and post it here

>>5015869
>>5015873

some angles heads

>>5015901
(I'm top) it's that bone that's there, idk what it's called, put it there instinctively it's probably wrong

>>5015718
it's like he wasn't even looking at the ref

complete beginner trying to learn software shortcuts, guess ill start learning shapes next

>>5015912
Don’t work by instinct when you’re completely new to drawing figures if you want to learn imo, that’s how you pick up bad habits. You should work from reference and then work into using instinct after you improve your visual library

>>5015916
you don't feel it anon

>>5015930
Oh I figure draw from reference daily, but I'm still /beg/ so I've only been doing it a couple of weeks (before I did that my figures were MUCH worse than some random line being wrong), I see I have to study more thanks anon. But isn't there like a bone somewhere around there for real?

>>5015919
Reminds me of my work from 6 years ago.
Gl anon.

>>5015938
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4147691

>>5015932
i feel it and you can't stop me

>>5015858
- hands are too small but idk if that's a style thing. just draw more hands if you want to improve hand anatomy (and I recommend using boxes for the fingers instead of cylinders)
- looks like you drew the clothes without drawing the body underneath. that's why the legs look so flat. from now on draw the body first, then put clothes over it.
- she's cute though

>>5015912
>>5015938
that looks like it's supposed to be either the shoulder blade (scapula) or the neck vertebrae? if it's neck vertebrae then I'm not sure I would include it in lineart since it usually doesn't pop out enough

>>5015939
what does it look like now i wanna see

i want critique

>>5016002
I want unseen this

>>5016002
is this intentional?
what are those

>>5016029
big mama milkers

>>5015979
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4147691
I see, it should have been lower and it's really part of the ribcage? That's weird I could have sworn I've seen it up there in some of my refs, but I'm probably misremembering I guess
>>5015986
I know it's quite pronounced if the girl is fit and is using their back muscle (like, extending the arm or something). In any case it's obviously wrong here since so many anons point it out, I'll try to look into what each bone/line that shows on lineart is called and does, that should avoid further mishaps

i am once again asking you to look at my shapes

>>5016029
She's obviously hiding a couple of corgis in there

>>5015676
is this real? are these things actually a trap?

>>5016077
beyond absolute raw /beg/ level, spamming boxes without using them as the basis for objects or spamming gestures without using them as the basis for drawing people is more of a warmup to get your brain engaged than something to expect gains from.

>>5015916
how do i learn this power?

>>5016077
There is nothing you can do repeatedly for a long time and not be some kind of gain. If you literally focus only on drawing one single straight line a day every day, you will have gained something after a few months. It's about consistency more than what it is you do.

>>5016104
do i get gains from using basic shapes to draw figures? it's what i've been doing ever since the steven huston anatomy course.

>>5016043
The transition between light to dark changes drastically rather than evenly as you approach the terminator. The top protrusion, it looks like you misjudged the terminator and value steps are too even. Other than nitpicking little errors this is very good.

>>5016180
ty for the crit. if you have nitpicks i'd love to hear them

>>5016117
absolutely.

>>5016184
It's minor, like the perspective of the base to the reflected light on the base of the top protrusion being shifted to the left and not actually on that form.

>>5016186
meant for >>5016140

>>5016186
but i said "how"

rate coomer

>>5016117
vandruff

A lot of people were telling me to look up Barque for faces. Which book is that? I dont wanna draw hyper realistic greek statue faces, I just wanna get the basic anatomy and structure of the face its features down so I can stylize it and make some weird semi-realistic/cartoon or the like. How far of the book should I go into if thats the case?

>>5016234
All of it

Holy shit big paper makes me want to kill myself it feels like such a waste but I feel like I’ve limited myself to small paper simply because if there’s not enough room for detail, it’s less likely to look like shit. So this is a learning process I guess. Ughhhhh

>>5016253
Forgot image.

Critique appreciated, yes i know i cant draw hands.

>>5016234
Bargues aren't about learning to draw faces or feet or backs, but about learning to copy accurately. The drawings in the book may as well be jugs or roman columns or random geometric shapes.

>>5016264
>>5016239
Ok cool, but which book?

>>5016266
https://archive.org/details/C.BargueDrawingCourse

>>5015802
I'm getting some Joel Jurion vibes from this pic, is that what you were going for?

>>5016160
lines are waaaay too thick. actually deliberately thicken the line art after you're done with the general form if you want the lines to be that thick. also lower the sketch to 10% opacity so you can actually see what you're drawing over it.

>>5016043
Your highlight isn't nearly as light as the original's, and your stands perspective's wonky and lacks that subtle cast shadow, it just looks like a black square.

I made my first coom art studying values. Very valuable indeed.

I'M GONNA GIT GUD, /BEG/
I'M GONNA DO IT WITHOUT LOOMIS OR ANY STUPID BOOKS SHIT
I'LL BE A 100% OBSERVATION CHAD JUST YOU WAIT

>>5016289
this has to be a beg critique.. He's not going for perfection, just relevant enough accuracy from what im seeing

>>5016296
keys to drawing is a good book for that :^)

Dear spongebob, went out to get more giant paper

Whenever I try to do stuff from imagination I default to what my friend calls an orthographic view-- how do I get out of doing this?
I just feel like my images are always so boring because i default to this. Any ideas? Any other critique would be helpful.

Get in the Eva, Spongebob.

>>5016304
An orthographic view would be the 2D representation of a 3D object i.e. direct front, above or side view. What you're doing is an isometric view, which is often paired with orthographic, though. To solve this, just grind some perspective then apply it to your drawings.

>>5016304
use references till other poses/views become natural.

>>5016296
Seeing that you posted a wojak instead of your own artwork, I’ll assume you’re a /v/tard who doesn’t draw for more than an hour a week

>>5016234
greek statues are amazing for learning structure and forms of the face though

>>5016289
ty anon for the crit i'll be better next time for you

>>5016297
I don't understand, if your objective is studying values with simple objects, why wouldn't you strike for as much accuracy as possible? You don't need to spend so much time sketching the shape, so the next thing to do is analyzing the values.

literally just discovered what value was after like 2 years of drawing and not using it at all. thought id have fun with it and draw some booba. how did i do?

^also here's a fucking hand for anyone who thinks im just coomdrawing

>>5016274
thanks

>>5016372
You forgot to draw the coom dripping from your hand

>>5016374
here, have the place where the coom was actually dripping from

>>5016256
heey buddy, i like that you're trying to draw full bodies even though you're shitty at it. here's a redline
some notes: don't draw the other ear when you're drawing the head in 3/4 perspective
draw the entire body and pose using boxes, then add details later. this should be easy if you learn to draw perspective with boxes
the hands are super complicated, and you should direct some time into learning to draw them separately like you would to learn to draw hair, eyes, and clothing wrinkles. i'm still shitty at drawing hands

being a beg sucs

>>5016304
As you reference and learn anatomy more and more, it’ll be easier to do more daring camera angles (perspective)
Drawing bodies in full view is good in my opinion because you’re not hiding things off screen as much

>>5016386

>>5016386
STOP POSTING THIS
MOVE ON
STOP FUCKING POSTING THIS SHIT
MOVE THE FUCK ON
YOU WONT GET BETTER OBSESSING OVER TRASH
MOVE ON YOU DENSE FUCKING IDIOT MAN CHILD
DRAW SOMETHING ELSE.
DRAW HER AT 3/4THS
DRAW HER WHOLE BODY
DRAW HER WITH THE GUN FIRING THROUGH HER STRANGELY SHAPED SKULL
BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
DRAW SOMETHING ELSE

Can you explain this picture? https://files.catbox.moe/fxjtab.jpg

>>5016399
i was going to type this out, based anon for doing it for me

>>5016399
i draw other stuff in the meantime ,i dont understand the deal

>>5016399
Kinda based and kinda redpilled
>>5016398
Anon you you need to improve it faster or just move on. I'm pretty sure I saw this in the same state a few days ago.

>>5016390
>>5016320
>>5016318
Thanks for the advice. I'll just have to draw from reference more and hopefully it will be internalized. I'll try redoing this image at a more daring camera angle

>>5016401
yo i literally saw this donkey ass shit a month ago.

>>5016407
i dont paint the same piece all the time

>>5016415
k i am sorry for posting

>>5016416
post some of the other stuff you've done

>>5016406
lol you will never finish this

>>5016419
p̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶ other stuff ̶y̶o̶u̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶ don̶e̶

fixed

>>5016419
i mean most of all the critiq ive gotten here is either that my stuff are creepy or shit ,so i will just keep practising

>>5016416
But you post the same fucking piece all the god damn time. I've seen this shit get posted in almost every thread for the past month. It's absurd. At first it was a sketch, then it was an outline, then you were coloring it, then you started adding shit out of perspective. The anons told you to stop fucking posting it because your progress on the girl that creeps everyone out is rapidly diminishing and all the things anons told you about how to fix the uncanny valley effect were shrugged off by you and your stupid fucking being. As if you thought you knew best for your art while you posted in /beg/, as if your smug, cocky, selfish persona never quite understood what crippling self doubt or diagnosable narcissism was. You are a fool. An intrepid little insect that seeks constant affirmation but refuses to listen to criticism. You know, even doctor worm can handle criticism. But you can't anon. Fuck you. Fuck you, fuck your family, fuck your improbable future children, I curse them all. In the name of any and all pantheons in which there is a spiteful god of art I curse you. You intolerable little troll. Fuck your tide pod girl. Put down the brush and learn how to critically think in social settings you buffoon of a man.

>>5016427
b a s e d

>>5016413
Ganbatte. Things will get better if you keep at it

>>5016427
love you anon as a fellow schizo but instead this is hard to read grammatically

>>5016430
can you talk about your improvement?

>>5016433
don't trust this guy he's a fucking liar, i have spoke to him about improving and all he did was ignore me

>>5016433
I’ve been drawing every day

>>5016425
dont practice riding a bike by attempting to jump into the monster truck before you can crawl

>>5016436
i drew every day for a time and just stagnated. what sort of things did you draw every day?

>>5016435
dam that sucks

>>5016435
Brother how do I critique this

>>5016431
I wasn't quite thinking about comma placement and dangling participles in my blind rage, anon. I apologize. But beyond what modifies what portions of the sentence, portions that probably need an em dash, or the fact that it's one long sentence, I'm not quite sure what portion of the text is difficult to decipher? I hardly doubt it's the subject matter or the size of the words. I'll try to be more straightforward the next time I call someone such names.

>>5016441
you're fine anon that other guy has a smooth and small brain

>>5016439
>clean ur lines
>why is it 2 styles
>pls just fix it
>this hurts to look at
>please just kill me
>no stop, I don't want to look at it anymore
>please just stop texting it to me
>I'm going to block you on discord if you keep doing that
>how did you get my phone number
>please no
>God no
>AHHHHHHHHHHHH MAKE IT STOP
>END MY LIFE I CANT LOOK ANYMORE
>OH GOD HE RIPPED OFF MY EYELIDS SO I COULDNT CLOSE MY EYES ANYMORE
>WHERE DID YOU BUY HEAVY DUTY LEATHER STRAPS AND A DENTISTS CHAIR
>GOD I HATE IT
>KILL MEEEEEEEE

>>5016439
>Is this a joke? Wheres your actual work?

>>5016439
>keep up the good work! :)

>>5016439
>What a charming smile

>>5016438
I just draw girls every day, I often reference real life anatomy and study that, I think my improvement is worse than what I should’ve done because some days I don’t take drawing as seriously
I think it’s important to be honest with yourself and critique your own work, I think most of my work is generally not appealing enough, some agree and some don’t agree but my goal still stays the same on this endless grind

>>5016439
something that will help than just not saying anything

>>5016439
Spam his dms with LOOMIS LOOMIS LOOMIS

>>5016458
Might be just that I haven't jerked it today, but that yoga booba got me halfway there anon. Your shit isn't perfect, but god I wish I was that good.

everyone shut up and have something to jack goff to

>>5016472

>>5016488

>>5016488
i love the painted fingernail, it's like you saying "this is a GIRL jacking off a DUDE it is NOT gay"

>>5016460
I linked this video once https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWRF9GpRCNI&feature=youtu.be
I’m pretty sure he’s been told loomis as well which refers to fun with a pencil, it’s important to take the practice seriously. I don’t have anything else to say other than “construct what you draw” that’s all there is to it. I can’t say stop drawing the cartoon faces because I literally do the same and I’m not even good at it either
I even have a friend who’s been claiming they really want to get good at drawing for a year now and they haven’t drawn anything, I’ve given them so much material and tips and it never amounted to anything. At some point I just got tired of trying to directly help people, that’s ironic because here I am on 4chan trying to do just that

>>5016493
you noticed that the fingernail was supposed to be painted without me explaining?
well gawt dayum im makin som progress!

>>5016458
hey anon just letting you know that how yoga pants look on the outside might not be an accurate representation of what's going on in the crotch area. The crotch seam line moves around when they're doing more drastic poses. In your picture the butt cheeks probably have a slight gap and the vag area should be lower.

>>5016494
shut the fuck up asshole i asked for help and you weren't even deliberate about it and all did was just post that link with no explanation or anything which really fuckin' pisses me off

>>5016500
Here’s the reference I was working with
If I knew how to draw it better I would’ve, I tried increasing the contrast to see better but still wasn’t sure what to rework
Clothing is definitely something I need to keep practicing. They end up being an after thought after I draw the bare body

>>5016512
keep up the good work! :)

>>5016197
Soul

>>5016512
I only have good intentions posting here
Stop arguing with me on 4chan
Stop randomly messaging me on twitter
Stop randomly saying my work pisses you off
Follow the videos instructions
Follow the books instructions
Critique your own work
Ask for critique here after spending a few hours on some drawings
Look at artwork you like and see what’s different in your own drawing
I didn’t need to explain the video to you because it’s literally a 50 minute live stream of him explaining it

>>5016527
Which coom is this?

I know my linework is still very rough but aside from that what should I do to improve this drawing

>>5016541
Create a new layer on top of it and do the line work correctly.

I think I am getting a little bit better with my loomis heads, I have now reached the body part section, so SOON I will be drawing BODIES. Very fun indeed. Granted I didnt draw all the heads but I think I am starting to FEEL the idea now a little bit.

been doing value studies all day, how am i doing so far?

>>5016555
draw the jaw as if the head is transparent

>>5016541
Could put a cast shadow from the hair onto her skin depending on your light source
Chin could be less pinched and pointy
Pupil on the right could be pushed a bit more to the right
Eye highlights could be nice

Alright
I read all the critique I got last thread
I read a bit through loomis to refresh
I tried to read Bargue, got intimidated and decided to dedicate time in the future to read that
Took a bath
and tried to draw a head again.
Decided to just do the simplest head, a front view, Was gonna make guidelines for features, found a convenient picture and used that, drew for about an hour and half...
and I turned a women into a man. Fuck me. I tried to look at my reference more then my drawing, but I guess something slipped past my eyes.
Atleast it looks better then the smiling girl from before. I actually learned how eyes actually function a bit I kept drawing them as if the sclera extended outside of the eyelid, which is what make them look really wide and weird.
Ears arent right though, its not a perfect copy also. But atleast my head doesnt hurt anymore and I see progress.
I also tried to do contour lines, but I know I fucked that up. I need to see a wire mesh of the head to properly understand how the eye sockets work and how the nose works. I know the head is angled a bit to a point with the nose but I still need to study how to translate that.
Only problem Ive having now is this paradox
>I dont want to draw realism, I wanna draw stupid cartoons and goofy doodles for fun and for praise/likes/yous because Im egotistic
>I understand I need to learn realism to understand how to stylize properly
>So I dont enjoy what Im drawing, even If its helping me
Not sure what to do about that because suck it up and keep working

>>5016565
study value like im doing. just dedicate a whole day to drawing various stuff only keeping value in mind (meaning fuck construction, fuck perspective, and fuck anatomy). force your brain to think in terms of brightness rather than shapes.
idk if it's the same for anyone else but this was like THE PIECE of the puzzle i was missing, the lack of which kept me returning to the bath like you.

OH GOD IM...IM...IM GONNA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>5016565
do both cartoons and realism. Spend an hour or two copying real images, and the rest of your time doing fun cartoons. If your study is incorrect, lay it over the ref to see where you're wrong.
You can skip over the vast majority of the intro text of bargue - just copy the images as accurately as possible. Do as much bargue as you can for a month or two.
You're interpreting the contours incorrectly. To get a better sense for that, try pic related exercise every day to warm up.

>>5016514
Yeah I saw from last thread. Judging from the rest of the photo her hips are facing mostly forward and not upwards, so the vag should still be at the bottom. I know you tried to follow that diamond shaped seam thingy, but it moves up a lot in poses like these, so it’s actually a very inaccurate indication of where things are. Her butt also shouldn’t be sticking together, it just looks like that because the pants flow over everything and makes it look round. You art is very appealing, just wanted to make sure you’re not getting bogged down by bad refs <3

>>5016527
>Ask for critique here after spending a few hours on some drawings
but how can i trust other artists on here when they say stuff like skip the reading as seen here >>5016576
you're basically sayin pfft not my problem

>>5016576
Man I wish the mega didnt get taken down, the second I learned about Peter Han and dynamic sketching the whole mega got shut down.
>>5016573
I might try this, only problem is that I gotta figure how to do values in photoshop? Just hard brush with 3-4 shades of grey?

>>5016565
this is why you should do bargue. you're trying to do these 3d things like contour lines when you can't accurately measure out and copy stuff.
measure ANGLES. that's why it looks like a man, look at angles of the sides of the face and compare them to your drawing

additionally the contour lines near the top of the head are wrong and you should go and study perspective too

>>5016590
it really isn't their problem just figure this stuff out for yourself.
also most of the bargue intro is historical stuff so yeah it can be skipped. theres only a few pages of useful text

>>5016596
the big torrent with all the courses should still work

>>5016590
bro i read the text at the beginnings when i copied the plates. it's mostly useless historical context

>>5016601
aren't the actual instructions in an appendix at the end

>>5016599
>the big torrent with all the courses should still work
Where is that?

>>5016563
So draw the jaw first? I kinda have started with the chin or one jaw end, and go to the other before I do the top of the head last, I guess I try to make it fit my lines I drew underneith.

>>5016605
yeah, and on the last page of the long-ass intro

>>5016606
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0aebc0f02e6c179b62e04c69af3e5adee3abee12&dn=IC-STUDY

>>5016599
>it really isn't their problem just figure this stuff out for yourself.
you mean i can finally feel relieved that i can use anything other than loomis?? or maybe i'll continue using loomis

>>5016611
just b urself

but if you ask me loomis is pretty good

>>5016580
Thanks for thr insight
I tried exaggerating the hips a bit because I'm not happy with the ratio in the ref too, the clothes made it more difficult to see what's going on too. Either way I'm done with that piece now. Maybe I'll draw two girls doing pic related when I have the time
>>5016590
I basically am saying it's not my problem but I'm not laughing either, I just gave you tips on how to proceed in drawing and you're wondering about trusting people. Do more doing and talk less honestly. I'm not sure when you started drawing but I do know we both drew on the /v/ draw threads last year, there's more than enouhh of my drawings there and on twitter, I even post my processes sometimes. If that isn't enough then I dont know

>>5016615
>but I'm not laughing either
i feel like you are
>I even post my processes sometimes. If that isn't enough then I dont know
but i thought they said it's bad to copy other artists?? see i always get mixed feelings about whether or not to trust what people say, especially one who is acting all high and mighty by indirectly saying they don't care.
>If that isn't enough then I dont know
maybe try to draw together on drawpile like i was doing with another drawfag from /v/ although i totally forgot or kinda remember the lessons we were doing which of course were loomis heads

>>5016596
ditch the tablet and do traditional

I posted earlier in this thread. >>5016304 I did some sort of copy drawings using references from a porn game I like. Do you guys think I am on the right track here?

Another noob question that I probably should have sorted out but in this post >>5016599 you talk about Bargue and without any googling going off of just what you say, it's about being able to measure angles to properly copy images, which sounds good and please don't shit on me for such a noob take here, but:
1. Can you improve your angle measurement to the point that it becomes natural and you don't have to focus on it one when copying an image?
2. does it help with things that aren't copying images?

I ask because these drawings I did are WAY not accurate to the reference image and while I did a bit of angle measurement I didn't focus on it a ton. Is that something I should be focusing on and how can that apply to drawings I want to do from imagination?
I always appreciate your guys help.

>>5016628
I'm not social in small groups so I don't talk to people privately much nor am I in any art discords so no, I'm also busy with working on my own things or commission's on a 10 inch ipad so the thought of draw pile makes me woozy
>i thought they said it's bad go copy other artists
Dunno who "they" is but my artwork above has copied faces from manga that I enjoy for practice so
Go draw, I had enough of this tbqh. Stop asking questions and follow instructions teachers give.

>>5016636
1. you still gotta pay attention but yeah you get faster

2. yes. if you're drawing from imagination you're basically copying from whatever is in your head. so accuracy helps and if you're not aware and intentional about the angles and proportions you want then your drawings are gonna be wrong

Don't want to be the guy that has to ask, but feedback on any of these would be appreciated. Half of them were no effort and the others were. I figure the problems with line confidence are only solved by actively striking the page over hours and hours of intentional practice. I just read through this book and I think it was pretty helpful in some places. I think it's one I'll have to go back through and really do a bunch of copying and such. So really I suppose asking for feedback on any of these would be premature because it's not really the result of me struggling with the material for very long. There's probably a lot I should discover on my own first. But in reality I probably just want to shitpost more than I want to draw.
>>5016595
>>5016361
>>5016310
>>5016303
>>5016255

>>5016638
>Go draw
you still haven't even shown your square yet how am i suppose to know your legit

>>5016385
Woahh that was really helpful, thanks anon!

Delivery for >>5014177 >>5014494. I haven't learnt to render yet.
Warning: Gay stuff
http://www.mediafire.com/view/r93lmxyootyp141/AssventureTime.png/file

>>5016650
Heres my work

>>5016607
it doesn't have to be first. you just have to do it to force yourself to think about what's happening on the hidden side, otherwise things flap out into view when they shouldn't.
if you flatten one side of a ball and pull a jawline out of some spot, then you have to flatten the other side and put the jaw back in the same spot.

>>5016649
>half of them were no effort
well then put effort into them. I assume you haven't been drawing too long, so work on gesture, sense of form, the usual. Also try not to use such a thick pencil, it obscures what's actually going on.

>>5016675

>>5016664
crow man it's not a square

Is drawing cartoons symbol drawing?
Is anime symbol drawing?
Can stylization be symbol drawing?

>>5016664
no it aint

>>5016684
see that's the thing i have a problem with too, how can i draw loomis if im not sure if im symbol drawing than actually drawing construction like loomis presents things some people don't explain right so i get completely lost especially when wanting to start figure drawing and drawing from reference.

>>5016687
Yes it is imposter

>>5016684
How about this
>Is the symbol drawing appealing to you?
>Are you happy with your choice of stylizing?
>Can anime be a style if anime refers to japanese animation?

>>5016704
Then why do anime and stylized cartoon look good?

>>5016717
Because the artists studied loomis and actually did their fundies

>>5016713
ya but WHAT ABOUT THE REALISM??

>>5016719
And how do realistic loomis faces translate into stylized cartoon/anime faces? Genuinely curious

>>5016728
That entirely depends which artists they started or if they messed around with proportions simplifications of the human form and finding things they like about it, etc bigger eyes, narrowed waist, bigger boobs, wider, hips, you get the idea

>>5016728
Beside what loomis is teaching is construction, not actually teaching you In drawing old man funny faces

>>5016730
i don't get the idea

>>5016734
See
>>5016733
Loomis is teaching you a way to draw and construct faces, that literally it.
You can disregard it in point in your art journey after finding more easier or intuitive ways to draw shit.

>>5016725
Left ankle is too high up.

>>5016733
>>5016737
>loomis is teaching you construction
Holy fuck, I feel extra retarded

>>5016295
I’m fairly certain I know the picture this study is based on.

>>5016722
>noooo where is the realismroni
I might be mixing up the definition here but isn’t realism about creating believability rather than actual realistic art? So manga, no matter the style can still hold some realism

>>5016737
you mean i don't have to draw the old people and just his construction to draw CAHTOONS??

>>5016747
I guess loomis and fundies are just the building blocks of drawing. Cant built a tower without a foundation

>>5016737
but also do I HAVE to read? i don't wanna read i just wanna copy the images by the time im finished reading i lose interest in drawing fast

>>5016745
quiet bastard you said you don't want to talk anymore yet here you are still talking

and then we finally get to draw some Looney Tunes.

>>5016751
Either you read and digest the content or mindlessly copy his shit and not knowing what they trying to actually teach you.
If books aren’t your thing just watch video courses

>>5016753
I mostly didn't want to talk to you when I said that honestly. Don't reply to me if you don't want me to talk to you here on the anonymous basket weaving forum. I'm here talk with my fellow anonymous beginners making art

>>5016763
>If books aren’t your thing just watch video courses
even watching people draw makes me entirely bored, i tell myself why watch other people draw when i can draw when watching watching those types of videos. like this one >>5016494
seen here im trying to go fast fish not slow like in that keanu reeves movie where he drives the bus

Wheres my "How to Draw Voluptuous Futa Musclegirls" by Andrew Loomis book?

>>5016780
>he doesn't know

>>5016728
literally just make the eyes big lol

>>5016751
>i don't wanna read
Zoomers are the absolute fucking worst. Western civilization has fallen.

help.

>>5016763
can i use this too??

>>5016826
least try complete by yourself, you have the benefit of being able to do it digitally

>>5016777
>watch the video without drawing at the same time
Bro

>>5016828
>can i use this too??
Why do you need my validation?

Stop replying

jesus christ what is going on in this thread, stop replying to the annoying guy

>>5016824
Don't lump the rest of us zoomers with him


Anyways, where the hell are all the discords, last time I checked there were like 3 in the sticky and now they're all gone

>>5016853
Cuz ur based

>>5015802
>>5015866

>>5016043
Are you following some resource or are you picking your refs yourself?

>>5016398
God, this shit is terrifying.
>tf tidepods are doing on her head?

>>5016874
He is an eyeballing faggot

>>5016725
>why are you drawing the same bubblebutt chick in ripped bodysuit over and over again?

>>5016826
learn perspective and struggle more

>>5016877
Silence cunt

>>5016888
TIDEPODS WITNESSED

>>5016894
GENKAI KEKKAI COOMA SHARINGAN

>>5016680
>draws ellipse on one side of the head
>doesn't draw it on the other
it's step 2 of loomeme and somehow everybody fucks it up

>>5015986
how's this? tried what you said.

>>5016725
That ass looks so edible.

>>5016895
>uses self-genjustsu to rape imaginary catgrils
>charges the price for his missions in raw pussy

any help/fixes/advice before i go onto the line art? (is for mouse pad)

>>5016943
WOWEEEE WOWWWEEEEEEE WAF WAF WOOF WOOF

>>5016368
Pretty decent. I'd suggest using more halftones for some of the dark areas near the lightened regions though. The edges are a bit too hard especially on the breasts and it doesn't show off the curve of the form as well as it could.

>>5016909
another pose, I know the left hand is small, lol.

>>5016943
The head feels kinda stretched, just punt the eyes a little bit up to fix the bridge of the nose and youre ready to go

drew a few Reis today

>>5016909
Not too bad, now if you continue the legs downward they would be more accurate than in the previous one. I’m not sure how you intended the clothes to fit on her but the skirt is pretty low and the sweater is kind of long. Usually skirts/pants originate from slightly below the bellybutton.

>>5016993
Cute, I’m gonna sleep now but might redline tomorrow

>>5017020
Forgot pic, this is what I was talking about with the skirt

>>5015718

What is missing from my stuff? I feel like there's something missing from my faces.

/beg/bros how are we coping? 2020 is almost over...

>>5017020
yeah, I imagined the sweater was covering the actual waistband of the skirt, that's why I don't draw the waistband, I imagine it's somewhere around above where the sweater puff out at the bottom in this picture.

>>5017034
Are those 5 old guys meant to be the same character? Serious same face syndrome if not.

>>5017034
an extra layer of shading with deeper values here and there will do wonders for your drawings and give then more depth

>>5017043
Damn, you got me all fucked up

>>5017034
Looks great definetly not /beg/, imo you'd need to work on proper linework instead of the messy lines you have.

>>5017013
lines too messy

>>5016877
i mean i made it and like it personally was expecting better critiq but i understand my taste is weird

bored

>>5017044
You know, that's such a simple thing to do yet it never came to me

>>5017040
Drawing has been a good coping tool for political turmoil and a pandemic that has killed more than a million globally. I still don’t know whether I failed the bar exam again. None of my friends talk to me. And I rarely leave the house in fear I will kill my grandmother. The bills are piling up. No one is hiring. The techno capital machine will continue to eat us from the inside out.

Things are not good.
This were never good.
Things will not be good.
We must find simple joys in life.
Like drawing booba.

>>5017062
BOOBA

>>5017022
Bellybutton was too low I am a dumbass, fixed it

>>5017042
Yeah that’s fine, just make sure to pay attention to how the clothes fit over the body when you’re drawing it. You can make the clothing various lengths, I just see people draw short schoolgirl skirts a lot so I thought you might have wanted to do the same. Although in your pic the end of the sweater was around the crotch area which would have been very low for a skirt waistband. But it looks like it could originate from higher, so it doesn’t seem too off. Another note, for your perspective the curve of the skirt should be a bit less pronounced. For the thigh socks the curve should be more pronounced. Even for small sketches make sure to follow the form or it will look uncomfortably flat. Your sweater puff folds look fine but the arm folds need some work. Anyway logging off for the night, see ya tomorrow

>>5017096
thanks anon. Ill try again tomorrow and try to fix all of this. this is very helpful.

>>5017048
>bed is sloped compared to the floor
>shelf is sloped
>top of shelf is angled inward
>sides of shelf is angled inward
What is going on with the room?
Just personal taste or a failure at one point perspective?

>attempt to render a piece with a more careful consideration of the forms
>it's actually improved, instead of ruined

>>5017048
>>5017104
looks like it's supposed to be from a high point of view near the ceiling, but the figure looks like a straight on view, which makes the whole thing seem off

to the anon who drew this, next time make the vanishing point lower if you intend to draw a straight on view

>>5017122
The floor has a different vanishing point
The ceiling has a different vanishing point
They don't even converge to the same horizon.
Ignoring the figure, everything is off.

Vilppu's assignment on box forms was pretty difficult - the poses are definitely more challenging than most of what I usually see as references.

>>5016636
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH COOOOOOOOOOM

anything i need to fix before i finish her?

>>5016197
06/10 - if he had a micro penis would be funnier

>>5017236
She has 4 toes.

>>5017253
He's probably 5'11'' so if we take proportions into account it is.

>>5017236
her arm reaches her knee and she has claw fingers

Book suggestions?

>>5017236
upper and lower arm should have the same length.

>>5017290
atomic habits

>>5017196
2-3 minute gestures. Vilppu's course has helped me greatly, damn. And I'm only in the beginning of it. Not copying is really freeing.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGHHH someone help me with the legs positioning please

>>5016565
the 3 red lines at the top are going the wrong way, you arent looking down at the head its straight on, you are looking up to the top of the head and down to the chin (the chins direction red line is correct)

I'm so mad that I had to take a 4 month break from drawing after a really bad car accident. Literally back to square one and now am beg again after 3 years.

>>5017034
you really like that one angle huh

>>5017442
this isnt how learning works anon...you dont just forget fundies, like you dont forget how to ride a bike or do 2+2 10 years later even if you never did maths inbetween, yeah your draftsmanship will be a lil wonky but your underlying knowledge isnt forgotten in 4 months lol

>>5017421
I got stuck at the legs in this perspective
Despair
Despair
Despair

>>5017013
Really like it. Very nice.

>>5016874
picking my refs myself

>>5016878
what does this mean

>tfw you finish something and think it looks okay then go back to it the next day and want to tear your eyes out

Did a study (is that what its called?). Thoughts? I really had trouble feeling the leg below the thigh. I think my faces have improved since yesterday though.

First and second attempt at drawing my sleeping dog. Actually kinda happy with the second one.

Tried a study (I think thats what its called) Thoughts? I had trouble feeling the leg below the thighs. My faces have improved since yesterday though

My office doodles

we're all gonna make it brah

>>5017709
BACK TO WORK WAGGIE

>>5017196
Not bad

I copied something today.

>>5017715
one day we may, but only if we do whatever it takes and ofc we feel the forms

>>5017696
pretty good job, try messing around with the shading to get a better 3d feel.
>>5017705
good effort remember to study the depth of the picture, the butt is closer(making is seems bigger) to us making the leg further away(making is seems smaller). Also work on your face a little more look at your jaw and the picture.
>>5017706
nice drawing, clean and simple
>>5017709
nice doodles but remember proportions, you made the left drawing have a thick torso but skinny arms both should be around the same.
>>5017715
nice job with the anatomy just be careful with the head it is smaller than the rest of the body.
>>5017725
vipplu beans method is probably the easiest and fun way to draw figures for me.

Updating some old characters designs, hows my anat?

>>5017786
they cute but do some feet/shoe studies brah, yours are thin and weirdly shaped

>>5017706
give me your brush settings and pen pressure seettings

>>5017802
Are you crazy? That’s just a hard round brush. Brush settings won’t make you draw better

>>5017802
Legacy chalk brush, 30% opacity for feeling the forms.

>>5017663
every fucking time

>>5016636
Reference source, please

>>5016636
Keep on doing these and your gestures and hands drawing skill will suffer. Stiff like my dead ex in bed.

just use the stabilizer bro
it took me forever because my settings suck and I'm seriously thinking of redoing the thing

>>5017802
just use the stabilizer bro
it took me forever because my settings suck and I'm seriously thinking of redoing the thing

Im 60 pages into Hampton's figure drawing book. I've tried my hands on figure drawing, using the meme grip to get T H I C C lines.
Am I doing it right? So far I've only drawn from imagination and just tried to eyeball it. Next up I'm going to use ref. My question is then, how much time should I use on each ref?
Any critique and pointers welcome

>>5017871
Whoah.... so cool...

>>5017879
i dont know , just round flat doesn work , the size and how much is the sensitivity affects a lot the end result but if you dont want to share it thats okay you fucking nigger i hope you ngmi

Why is it always the lowest of /beg/s who chimp out when they don’t get the reply they want

>>5017907
The uneducated whom have never developed a skill beyond passing don't understand the social dichotomies involved in accentuating one's own understanding of the cultural zeitgeist or social norms, thus they react like a child who lacks complete understanding of any critical eye from persons outside of their own individual autonomy, thus their own autonomy cannot acknowledge that their work is wrong.

>>5017907
they aren't used to the idea that it will take them years to begin to succeed and want quick fixes to their problems

>>5017927
are you the bar guy

>>5017927
Ah good answer anon

>>5017929
Yes. Kill me.
>>5017932
Thanks. Sounds tryhard retarded as I reread it.

>>5017774
>good effort remember to study the depth of the picture, the butt is closer(making is seems bigger) to us making the leg further away(making is seems smaller). Also work on your face a little more look at your jaw and the picture.
Thanks !

>>5017900
calm down anon
did you thought that was the original resolution from my first post? you answered your own question with using 30px+ brush size, everything else is default except the stabilizer which is up to 300 in distance.

>>5017927
talking like that on our tamil sitar-tuning forum won't make you more certain that you've passed the test this time, bar anon

>>5016427
>Descartes poster
ngmi

>>5017900
>>5017951
>reeee ngmi!!
Hearty kek

My wisdom tooth is killing me.

>>5017946
:(
>>5017951
:(

>>5017013
lovely artstyle

>>5017013
Are you the Yoshitaka Amano fan?

having some quick fun

>>5017927
me smart. me use big word
fuck you faggot

>>5017982
Is it possible for crabs to chimp out?

Did I get it right? Not used to doing a drawing that wasn't a quick doodle
No ref, no undersketch, 6 hours

>>5017985
crabs are too retarded to show emotion

Are the values okay?

>>5018018
p5 was so good. My dick is so hard.

>>5018021
Is the rerelease worth playing? I only finished the base game

>>5018018
not beg fuckoff

>>5018018
Everything seems fair, only problem is that you drew worst girl :^)
>>5018022
I've played the original base game and Royal. It is if you didn't 100% the original game. If you did everything in the original, it's not worth buying because despite the last chapter being kino, it's not worth replaying the base game

>>5017290
>>5018024

>>5018034
Ah I see. Also it’s a comm so it wasn’t exactly my choice anyway, I think I liked makoto the most until the fat guy ntr doujin inducing scene so I ended up being an annebro. I like blondes a lot anyway
>>5018033
I’ll stop considering myself to be beg after I can draw backgrounds and figures easily

>>5018044
>makoto the most until the fat guy ntr doujin
Shame, Makoto is the best and I simply don't indulge in NTR

>>5017965
yeah i like amano

Thoughts? Am I feeling it? I might turn this into a knight character or something

>>5017941
>>5017774
Does this look better?

>>5018106
Better than before but still you need to work on the face. Look at her lips and compare it to yours. The face is curved but you drew it flat. Also just overlay your drawing with the picture so you can see the mistakes and try to fix it.

>>5018136
Thanks. Ive been having a lot problems with making the face actually curve and not be flat for a while now. Ive been doing loomis and trying to understand and break the issue.

>>5018191
It seems like your making honest attempts to draw what you see sometimes, like with the lips i can see the attempt, but then its still kinda halfassed with even some segments being completely phoned in, like with the back of the neck.

In the reference the neck is comprised of two distinctly different angled and sized lines. The bottom line is longer then the top and points up to her eye somewhere but then your neck it's just one almost straight line. Same with the cheek. In the reference it curves a bit at the top of the cheek, just below the nose, but then its almost entirely straight down to the point of her chin but with you it's just a generic curve not resembling what's in the reference at all.

Id say just try to focus more on being deliberate with your lines. Cross compare the angles, sizes, and positions of each stoke and don't go into autopilot where you phone in a line cause it vaguely matches.

>>5018257
Ill try this for next time, thanks. I think the autopilot stuff is a good explanation for why those lines go off. I always zone out while drawing

How long does it actually take to learn to copy images right? Is there anyone here who started from absolute zero learning to draw as an adult that can do it well now?

How do I achieve this type of style? Rendering?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAJUKmPzkK8

new

>>5018485
>>5018485
>>5018485

Should I use references for faces ALWAYS as a newbie?

>>5018430
i don't think it would take too long, maybe a month or two. If you just measure carefully then you can basically just connect the dots and copy

https://archive.org/details/C.BargueDrawingCourse

>>5017852
Fight or Fuck Girls Arena
>>5017871
Could you expound upon this further?

>>5015718
Hi guys, I want to start learning to draw, I have a question
When I read drawing tutorial books, should I draw every illustration in the book? Or just the exercises?

>>5015869
i dig the concept