/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

First time posting on /ic/. I've tried to get into drawing a few times over the past couple years but I eventually get bored and stop. I don't want to be great, just good enough to make a cute comic. But every art book I've read is just sort of garbage, yes even loomis. It's like there doesn't exist an art book that has actual exercises that engage the self-learner. It's just wall after wall of nonsensical philosophical text and then some over complicated diagrams.

Have most artists ever picked up a math or physics textbook before? Most fields, fuck, even music textbooks, involve lots of exercises and cut down on the bullshit author opinions, and are actually self-contained classes in and of themselves. I'm getting ready to just give up on books altogether and just make a big folder of pictures of people doing a million different poses that I will just practice drawing over and over for the next year or so until I can draw. What say you guys about this approach? What are your thoughts on my take on art books? Is there something I'm missing?

trying to do this for /tg/ >>>/tg/76039424

>>5012754
slounds like a good idea actually. don't bother reading books but do look at Hampton, Bridgman, and Lauricella
>just good enough to make a cute comic
always learn realism first.

>>5012742
Help me improve

>>5012742
Practicing inking / linework
wobbly lines BEGONE ALREADY reeeeeeee

How about it?

>>5012817
she looks like a toy figurine about to fall over

Reposting, plse help
How the hell do I make these better? Do I just "keep drawing" until I get it? What do I have to focus on? I dont want to draw hyper realistic, just semi or cartoonish, but I still want it look presentable and not like this. I feel like I understand the form, and I can think in 3D (Like when I look at the construction, it actually feels like a 3D image and isnt flat, which is entirely new to how I was drawing a few weeks ago), but the second I go to apply eyes and other facial features it just falls apart. Do I need just need to study the anatomy and structure of the eye (and i guess nose and mouth while im at it)? Is it just symbol drawing being really awful and getting to me? What video or book do i need to see to be enlighten?
Just when I though I was approaching mediocrity, some other issue comes to kick me in the balls. Please help

>>5012820
>she looks like a toy figurine
That's a weird thing to say, does that mean it's out of proportion?

>>5012765
looks fine, keep going.
>>5012817
the limbs are a little long, the ear could be a little bigger other that those things good job.

painting some fanart and blocking in some basic shapes and values. Any critique before I move forward?

>>5012826
>limbs too long
why do I always do this ._.

>>5012821
did you watch steve huston head video on youtube, if not you should it is really helpful.

>>5012834
I'm gonna check that out. I just want my faces to looking like pic related so badly

>>5012833
just read the loomis books or watch some anatomy videos you'll get it.

>>5012834
I'm gonna check that out. I just want my faces to stop looking like pic related so badly

>>5012832
that some big hair, can't tell if your ear is high or if that character has bangs. Other than that looks good so far.

>>5012842
they're some proko videos on each facial feature if you want your drawings to look more realistic.

>>5012841
Thank you anon I will do this, mostly I just figure draw on my own

>>5012850
drawing with reference can help you see your problem easily, the more you practice the better you get at eyeing it when drawing from imagination.

>>5012754
you can absolutely learn how to draw from observation alone and many artists have, most notably Kim Jung Gi in current day. It will most assuredly save you a lot of time by just picking up some books though. I would at the very least recommend learning some perspective though.

>>5012754
>loomis is garbage
The purpose of it clearly went over your head, you probably didnt even try it. You get bored of art because you want instant, good results. You don't want to put in the hard work to get decent, you're looking for secrets that will help you improve without actually drawing.

>>5012927
this isn't /ic/ humor thread

>>5012855
Sorry I meant I figure draw with reference, I'll keep going then thanks

Yeah I don't know where her other foot is either.

>>5012754
Nothing wrong with artbooks, just you being a lazy faggot

>>5012825
you are dense anon, he's saying that her balance is off

the first attempt at drawing a full figure, trying to get out of my comfort zone, I feel it is too early for me, it was harder than I thought.

>>5012962
oh god, it is worse 5x times when looking at it again.

>>5012962
Practice gesture drawing

>>5012962

>>5012962
Back to Betty Edwards

>>5012964
what is the best way of approaching it? do I just draw poses? or do I first read one of the sticky books?

>>5012975
https://youtu.be/74HR59yFZ7Y
https://quickposes.com/en

practice sketches from yesterday, starting to focus on faces/LOOMIS now (Giant resolution warning)

Why is it that the moment I post something it becomes 5x worse? Why am I unable to judge it before posting it as objectively? Fuck the mind

>>5012961
Oh now I get it, sorry I'm not dense I'm just super high most of the time

>>5012981
thank you anon, I was doing it wrong, I will go offline for 4 weeks and study hard.

>>5012993
Ok if I see you post here again I’ll feed your knuckles to your dog

>>5012993
Cya tommorow

any thoughts?

>>5012848
Thanks. That helps me understand the eye a lot more. Still need to practice.

>>5012845
does this look any better?

>>5013039
Your drawing looks like it is sad and it’s head is full of goblins
You should be using reference and see what you’re misunderstanding

>>5012820
>>5012826
Tried fix, thank

>>5013040
I guess, does the figure has bangs or is that the hair line the top of the head. If it is the top of the head the ear needs to be lower

>>5013053
Thanks for this, jaw was the other major point I was struggling on.

>>5012742
Done Stravinsky's, any commentary on what to work on?

>>5013059
yeah and spikey messy hairs

>>5013018
>>5012995
could I draw while browsing 4chan?

>>5013064
my attempt, I might have a brain tumor.

Finished inking my skull
Now i'll scan it to try out some colors digitally before i color it on paper

>>5013167
clean

ring finger

>>5013182
retarded

rate my toad ic.

>>5013254
Frog

How to actually perceive and draw in forms instead of lines that approximate them? I can't grasp it, I just can't

>>5013019
>>5013019
>>5013019

>>5013321
This is like the fifth time you post this
It's good enough, now finish it or make something else

>>5012765
nice tits

>>5012817
use refs

>>5012821
cute wojaks

>>5013337
No it isn't.

>>5013321
Who ever the fuck you are.

YOU CAN FUCKING DRAW THE FEMALE FIGURE!

It's time to take the next step

>>5013357
Yeah, slap a big ol' DICK on her

just started this and it looks more shit than my art normally does but i cant fucking tell why. i think the porprotions are fucked but i cant tell why. sorry for spelling, im esl.

Can someone redline this? It somehow feels flat as fuck despite me using shapes and the face of the dude looks like shit.

why do i need to learn realism? im not being a cunt and saying i dont need to, i understand that i do, i just cant understand why. i want to draw cartoons and shit, just seems like a waste of time drawing hyper realisticly for years if im just going to start doing stuff with 5 percent less detail. someone please teach me how to be less autistic.

>>5013382
learning basic rules of life and structure before you exaggerate them. It also helps with flexibility in fields because although you COULD be good at animating or drawing in one style, what if you were asked to change completely to another? You cant adapt to it quickly because you have only been drawing in one style and dont know the basic features and rules that apply to real life, therefore will have difficulty exaggerating the new style in correct manner.

>>5013382
ment to say 5 percent as much detail, sorry for being autistic
>>5013387
>what if you were asked to change completely to another?
why would that happen? serious question

>>5013369
maybe you need to activate your windows

>>5013382
You do not need to study to the point of photorealism or anything. Realism just means you need to be aware of the real life forms that are being simplified or exaggerated when you start doing your anime or cartoon stuff. The generic anime style in particular is literally just simplified realism for the entire body - you cannot draw good anime bodies without knowledge of realism. There is no reason why you cannot study realism in tandem with your stylized art as well; you're in control of your own life, there is no enforced curriculum. Realism also happens to be a great way to start building up your understanding of perspective and 3D forms, which a lot of people who jump right into the style trap tend to neglect.

>>5013321
Shawty thique

>>5013321
Shoulders too broad
Hips too small.

>>5013019
>>5013019
>>5013019
>>5013019
>>5013019

>>5013389
Look at Riot Games and all of their animation. They swap styles faster than a chick in college can run through guys. Also, if you happen to switch jobs or do freelancing, this is a highly required skill

>>5013382
You don't need to learn realism
Just keep drawing your cartoon doodles for the kneegrows, they wont care about the quality

Are her limbs the correct length now? Also is that how toes work?

>>5013478

>>5013369
read loomis

>>5013490
If this is supposed to be some sort of comment on my drawing I ain't getting it

Have I fucked up?

>>5013490
>>5013499

>>5013478
I made some minor adjustments to maybe help you but I’m bed myself so take with a grain of salt >>5012765
I mostly adjusted the head size and shoulder, I don’t know hands and the bottom have of the body enough yet to help more, gomenasai but I do recommend cross referencing to examining what makes bodies appealing in art you like

Spike from reference, fun.
Shitty head from imagination above.

>>5013556
SEE YA SPACE BEGBOY

>>5013544
perhaps learn to communicate like a human person
>>5013550
Thank you very helpful, especially the bones around the torso, very instructional

I am still drawing heads.
Slowly getting better, but I accidently drew a fuckboy. Also he looks creepy for some reason.
No idea why jaws are fucking me up so much. And face plates. And Craniums... and basically the entire head.
Going through loomis again helped a bit but I feel like Im stuck at a wall.

>>5013612
his eyes look like he's staring super intensely at something, combined with no real expression.

>>5013382
because you don't actually learn the fundamentals if you don't at least try to mimic reality. if all you do is study stylized drawings then you won't understand how reality actually looks like. you have no frame of reference to understand the choices that the artist made in order to fit the style.

>>5013612
you put the center line too far right and the whole face is skewed as a result. also the ear should be further back

>>5013612
It's an improvement but try to think about what you're drawing as 3d shapes
Something you could easily notice and fix is the space between the nose and lips. Feel above your lips and look at your drawing
If you're going for a stylistic it could still follow this rule for certain angles
Also flip your canvas once in a while

>>5013478
Her hands look a bit large, especially her right. On that note, I'd also make her shoulders more narrow; those would eliminate all tranny problems. Her right calve also seems bent/angled a bit too much; for something like that, I like to draw the whole leg, and then just erase what isn't seen, so you know everything is properly connected.

She looks a bit stiff, but that's normal when you're still learning and trying to make everything ork, so you'll grow out of that. One tip I like to keep in mind is to not always just have the torso and hips drawn straight, but only angled different. I probably did a shit job at explaining that, but for example, if someone is leaning back, don't just tilt their torso back 45 degrees; make it BEND. So the back would curve back, and not just be a straight torso angled. Again, sorry if I didn't explain that right.

>>5012962
damn anon

>>5013631
>>5013654
>>5013668
Thanks guys. Ill try again and see how it goes

Drew my own eye with a mirror since anime eye talk last thread made me want to draw an actual one to try and get how they work.
It was extremely difficult because I decided to make it in colour and I was in weird lighting (yellowish lighting from lamp to the side, computer screen in front). Picking out colours from reality is so much harder than from photos. I was also using a tiny mirror that I had to hold with one hand while I drew with the other.
Not sure if drawing a single eye is really that helpful but ended up finishing it.

>>5012677
How do i know where to draw the pupil relative to the iris?
I have the iris down but I can't put the pupil in the middle of it as perspective distorts it.

Tried to incorporate all of >>5013550 teachings (sorry I won't budge on nipple style)
>>5013677
I made her hands smaller too, also along with the bigger head I think the shoulders look less manly (sadly I can't make drastic changes to anatomy at this point so it'll have to do). The torso not being straight thing makes perfect sense and hopefully it will help with my stiffness. Thank you anon, can't wait to apply this

>>5012922
No, I'm just looking for guided exercises that aren't "you should practice this for six months and then come back to the book after you're done" bullshit. I literally just need like an amphibia tier grasp on anatomy and I'll be happy.
>>5012764
>>5012912
Ok anons, I'm gonna practice with figures for a while and then get maybe give books another try when I've got some more practice under my belt so I know what the authors are talking about when they give me stupid looking diagrams.

>>5013612

feel the forms and simplify the forms ....

>>5013499
>>5013592
lurk more anon

>>5013741
So you got buttblasted when the books told you art takes time

>>5013752
Sorry here to learn to draw not bitterly meme on successful webcomics or whatever this is

>>5013039
Anon don't forget that the skull isn't actually a sphere. The fact that you have made that mistakes makes it clear to me that you need to read the sticky.

what is this called where a bunch of tringles form the 3D structure of something? I think it's useful but have no clue what it's called

>>5013612
>>5013747
Am I feeling it?

>>5013064
Looks good anon. Move on to the rest of the sticky.

>>5013763
I think that it's meant to be more titled.

>>5013369
you aren't properly constructing your figure before drawing. Read the sticky (Loomis).

>>5013760
No I know the skull is an egg shape with a face plate on it. I just have a hard time translating it to paper for some reason. Im trying to draw the head in 3d, and I know I can do it with other body parts because I've done it before, but for some reason when it comes to the head and facial features I cant wrap my head around it (no pun intended). It feels like the message from my brain to my arm is getting lost in translation

am i doing figure drawing right? I'm doing timed practice, people told me I was doing it wrong

>>5013782
That's good for practice, but do also do proper figure drawing from start to finish even if it takes you hours

>>5013775
Don't forget you're just drawing 2d lines anon, don't think about what you're drawing too much. It'll take too long (and in my personal experience you begin symbol drawing). Try drawing faster. I find that that helped for me.

>>5013763
Assuming this is the same poster, this one looks much better, so do whatever it is that you did when you were drawing this one.

You guys any tips for tweaking the pen in Krita until I'm comfortable with it?

I just want the hard round to not spasm in thickness or get all pixel-y

>>5012962
Focus on drawing the individual parts with the goal of capturing the form.

Look at each piece and think about how it is placed in space. How it's tilted. Make things look more blocky/boxish if you need to to really capture the 3d shape and form.

>>5012821
>>5013039
I used to be where you are man and while I'm still /beg/ I'm getting better. Watch Sinix' videos about the face, head and the different features. Look at and copy the work of artists you like while keeping what you've learnt in mind.

>>5013732
I honestly wasn't confident with how I tweaked her body curves, partly due to the gesture of her body which is quite stiff
so here's a reference by a better artist. Imagine the a big curved line running through their body, it matters a lot more than anatomy tweaks. I really recommend trying to look into gesture when starting a new drawing
Okay that's enough autism outta me. I've veen on 4chan too much today

>>5013801
I'll keep on my gesturing, thanks for the help anon. I will try to draw the spine curving nicely before filling out the torso next time

>>5013801
damn nice coom you got there sonny

>>5013761
triangle mesh

>>5013775
read loomis. you forgot the step where you slice off the sides of the spheres.
and idk if you're drawing from ref but do that because it feels like you're symbol drawing and basically just making up stuff

>>5013800
>Watch Sinix' videos about the face
Ill check this out, thanks

Drawing complete, what do u think? I had lots of fun with this

>>5013860
great and clean technique

>>5013860
I am envy.

>>5013860
I am envious of your inking skill.

>>5013851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtJUHGjVm0E

>>5013872
Thanks. You just need to take it slowly and have patience

do I just need to keep at it to get a better gradient?

>>5013929
Nigga just color between the gradations and use a bigger brush

>>5013929
blur tool or mixer brush baby

any niggas got any ref folders on a mega? it can be anything like muscles, ass, tits, clothing, etc. i'm just too lazy to go out look for good pics.

>>5013952
Yeah but nah.. I'm too lazy to share

>>5013958
shiii, thanks anyways.

>>5013797
Not the same poster. I wish it was

How's this

hey anon if you’re alone on a Saturday night and already jerked off 5 times, join me in drawing yoga

>>5013994
cute patcho

>can do hands okay
>still shit tier at legs
Am I just retarded?

>>5014008
pylegs

>>5014008
draw peg legs anon

>>5013981
soul

>>5014008
give me your hand folder

YOG

>>5014080
AAAEREEEOOOGGGGAWQAWAA WAAAHHH COOOOOOOOOM WAAAHAHAHAHHAH COOM COOOMM

>>5014082
>>>5014080 (You)
>AAAEREEEOOOGGGGAWQAWAA WAAAHHH COOOOOOOOOM WAAAHAHAHAHHAH COOM COOOMM
This

>>5014087
LET ME FUCKING GRAB AND SLAP THAT MEAT

>>5014087
puffy vulva or futa?

>>5014091
Schrodingers crotch

for those of you who drew for years but only figured out how to study pretty late, how do you cope with playing catch up?

>>5014096
by drawing

>>5014102
Are you EVER going to draw anything else?

>>5014102
the pecs do not work like that. https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/pectoralis-major-and-minor-b83c158d82de44248eeb8b2757fd3e1b

>>5014101
yeah but everytime i learn something new i kick myself for not learning it sooner because it jsut seems so simple

>>5014102
B00BA

>>5014108
>$250 for this
there's countless resources for body ref, why would you spend that much for this

>>5014102
What are you hoping to gain from drawing this type of shit?

That said, I'd fuck the shit out of her.

>>5014121
no need to spend lol

u can see the model for free if u just click "inspect 3d model"

>>5014102
WOOOOOOOOBA
>>5014096
It’s best to not cry over spilt milk and just take your upcoming years seriously

hey /beg/ i was gonna finish this tonight, but i just feel like shit. Any /beg/ wanna talk? I can help you with anything the best i can

>>5014149
I don't wanna be sad on my social medias. people don't go to my socials to see me sad, so i figure talking here would be nice.

>>5014151
Go to the vent thread then

>>5014149
How do I face anon
I try carefully marking where the features would go, foreshorten the far side but it doesmt work out attractively

>>5014156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWiSJYqMVp4

this video will help ya
i do this for some faces that give me trouble

>>5014153
yeah you right

>>5014163
Guess I can try that

>>5014171
its not hard you got this

>>5012742

>>5014134
have you figured out ways to optimize your learning? i try to write notes for everything i do

>>5014185
no im 23 and had my midlife crisis last year

>>5014189
fuck off you're younger than me

>>5014192
Do the notes help?

>>5014197
no fuck you i'm crabbing FUCK YOUUUUUU

>>5014199
based crabber

>>5014199
What kind of notes do you write

>>5014205
nigga you don't get it
you gave me nothing, you're probably such a piece of shit you probably won't give anyone anything in your life. just fuck off

i'm tired of failing and learning so selfish assholes can keep taking

>>5014209
sucks to suck

>>5014209
Which 30 seconds to mars song is this

>>5014189
>23
>midlife crisis
ngmi

>>5014209
I'll give you hiv if you keep being rude

>>5013782
learn to walk before you run.

>>5014322
Not him but your post is too vague and unhelpful to a beginner looking for guidance.
What hes doing is perfectly fine and can be considered learning to walk. Gesture drawing is meant to be quick so it is timed. It is meant to be quick so you capture the flow of the body and don't get caught up in detail
Good gesture drawing takes practice, if he keeps doing that he'll get better at it.

>>5014322
virgin crab

>>5014336
Based Chad helper

>>5013782
depends what you're aiming to accomplish really, but if you're just trying to learn how to capture the feel of poses, yes, that's good practice. if you're still early on there's a decent guide to what you're trying to accomplish in vilppus drawing manual

anyone else wanna try to draw this hand? shits fucking with me

Does this pose look right
I'm kind of iffy on the back arm's perspective

How's this? I like how it looks but I get the feeling I did a lot of stuff wrong

>>5014412
forgot image

>>5014414
well then.

>>5014417
is it too explicit? i'm sure i saw nudes further up

>>5014424
Yes, my 4 year old literally burst out crying and shitting himself when he saw this on our daily family friendly 4chan session. Be mindful, may the lord be with you.

>>5014428
what exactly is "well then" supposed to mean then?

>>5014385
I tried, the pinky is a bit off though

>>5014213
Is this digital or traditional?

>>5014213
The backs are wrong pal. Did you use ref?

>>5014177
Nice bulge. I am gonna sexualize him.

>>5014385

>>5014385
Not that hard imo.

hate this blurry, muddy son of a bitch

>>5012765
>>5013064
>>5013254
>>5013556
>>5013860
>>5013981
GMI

Rest of you NGMI

>>5012765
DAAAMMMNNNN

>>5014578
You have HORRIBLE insights.

I bought an Intuos S cause I figured I might as well learn how to draw and do so digitally at the same time. However, I have no idea what to do with the button presets to make it comfortable to draw with. Any suggestions (4 buttons on pad, 2 on pen)?

>>5014578
Hot air balloon.

>>5014385
I tried

>>5014578
May you give me your diagnosis, doctor?

>>5013519
looks ok for me, just try doing smaller waist

cone

>been drawing for a year
>come to /beg/
>everyone is better than me
Is this normal?

>>5014213
>>5014478
Why don't you answer? I think you should make a loose sketch to feel the form/weight of the character first.

>>5013758
I think they are saying your character looks like a tranny

>>5014696
MY GIRU GIRU DOES KABOOOOOOOOOM SHAPALAPAH BOOOOOM BOOOOM FUAAH BOOOOOOOOM

Not too happy that I'm heavily referencing this >>5011821 since I loved it (and had to pretty much copy the legs, I couldn't do good legs from imagination), but regardless I think I've got something good here

>>5014729
Hello "Astra" fag

>>5014745
I swear her hair isn't gonna be white... perhaps.. maybe

>>5014729
You fudged the legs

>>5014757
Fixed?

>>5014213
You sure can draw these instagram model concepts, can’t you?

I have just started Loomis, for creating my own cartoon faces, do I picture it in my head then draw it, or just kind of draw and see what happens?

Damn, watching Vilppu is really useful for improving "feeling the form" skills

What you think of my monster from imagination?

>>5014704
Imagine not only being unable to draw anything other than symbols, but being unable to live in a world where not everything is a symbol of your own microcosm

>>5014875
Oh vey! Shut it down!

>>5014866
yes indeed my feeling the form bro

>can't figure out construction at all, everything I draw looks flat and out of perspective, can't think in 3D
>suddenly realise it's exactly what I used to do when I drew homestuck porn in MS paint for /co/ years back
>now it's easy as hell
I'm not sure how to feel about this

>>5014884
Nice to see someone with both realism and cartoons. GMI

>>5014598
not really needed as you should have one hand on the keyboard anyway. I use mine for shortcuts like "new layer" and "flip canvas, things that are more akward to reach on the keyboard.

>>5014804
Of course the first one lol

>>5014080
>YOG
SO

>>5014884
Based. After feeling the form drawing realistic stuff, it's easy to translate the same principles to big tiddy anime girls, indeed.

>>5012742
Feel a little naughty today.

>>5014494
i guess the balls in your court big guy

>>5014938
I'll do 1 page a day until the day that I can draw straight lines and eclipses.

>>5013369
>proportions are fucked
Flip the canvas horizontally walk away from the screen and come back after an hour and look at it closely. You'll be amazed.

>>5013763
meh kinda.

>>5014729
Poor girl is about to topple over... fix center of gravity maybe
>>5014387
Dunno about pose but her torso is completely fucked. I suggest consulting a reference for the anatomy

>>5014494
>>5014934
Same fag
>>5014938
I need to sleep. So tomorrow.

Im still TRYING.
I started focusing on egg shapes for the head and its helping.
When I flip the canvas on this face it looks off but I cant find out why. Can anyone help?

I'd like to put myself as a low-level intermediate. This is my most recent thing, it's a monster I call Beefcake. First time in a while I've actually refined my lineart and made an attempt at rendering.

>>5014961
Perspective. The face in real life follows perspective, the lines on the face are not parallel. Trace over the head with straight lines to see the perspective.

>>5014965
I dont understand

>>5014963
>>5013884
You are a beginner with dunning kruger.

>>5014961
Take a closer look at what her nose actually looks like, or trace over it and compare it to your own.
You're seeing a cute girl and thinking immediately that she must have a very small upturned nose like a cartoon.

>>5014981
I actually originally drew the nose as she had it, but I thought it was so hideous that I had done something wrong, so I redrew it.
This just looks diabolic

i'm liking her

>>5014961
I think that you are skipping the fundamentals. Drawing an anime face is a big step. You need to take smaller steps first.

Is this rendering good? I'm both liking it and fearing that I might have gone full Deviantart with the pillow shading

>>5014993
me too

>>5015005
(virtual hug)

>>5014996
Which fundamental? Ive been practicing construction, form and perspective for a while now and while Im not good I can atleast say I understand the jist of them. I do figure drawings everyday for about an hour and all that, and even tried dabbling in anatomy but I still really suck at that. But for some reason when it comes to heads it just so damn difficult for me to understand what is going on.
Pic related is random sketches Ive done in the last week. Like I said, theyre not good, but theyre on a way better level then I can draw faces and heads. I dont know whats up

Tried drawing with highlighters today. Some of them turned out pretty nice.

Really recommend it, made me think of lights and shadows and shit.

>>5015016
>>5015005
i forgot to hide her strawberries, heh

>>5015003
it's a good *start*, that's it
however I don't see pillow shading

My head hurts. I cant do this anymore, I gotta take a break. Im in gay face hell

>>5014961
Try to use box

>>5015023
keep practicing. You should also search organic shapes - Peter Han. You'll feel the forms in no time.

am i missing something?

question about colours. I just drew this and there's 3 different shades of colour for her hair. I can easily see this on my main computer screen, but on my tablet (cintiq 16) it's hard separating the 2 darker shades, also the skin appears darker on the tablet. Are there some settings that should I try and change to fix this?

>>5015138
Color calibration, windows 10 has the setting natively if you’re on that

I'VE FINALLY DONE IT.
I USED THE HARD ROUND BRUSH
IM GMI

Trying to combat stiffness, are my gestures lines just not curvy enough?

This thread should be moving faster considering it's sunday and everyone is making new artwork

Literally cant draw his hair, I need serious help.

>>5015122
yes, hard round brush, no lasso, no blurring, no soft erasing the corners, start large and go small as you paint

Started reading Hampton's figure drawing book. Might seem like a silly question, but whats the best way to progress through it? So far I'm merely copying the diagrams as best as I can (pic related), and taking some notes along the way.

>>5015263
copy his drawings and try to draw figures from reference in his way while thinking of the process he outlines.

>>5015255
>>5006665
You posted this doodle 4 days ago and you still can't figure it out? Use a lighter color for the sides because he has less hair there. Also you're just copying the reference's hairline in the wrong perspective.

>>5015276
I know the reference is wrong but I cant get the hairline right. Let alone how can I show a fade with 1 or 2 colors?

>>5015279
If you want to use such a limited color scheme then go ahead and choose a lighter color. That's how cartooning is. Hairline's curve needs to be centered too.

>>5015171
Looks nice

>>5015025
resize the image you nigger

>>5015288
Think I got it.

10 minute from photo reference

I feel good about it. Should I be ashamed

>>5015311
Better

>12 hours on this
Alright I think this truly is the best I can make this character look, peace out

>>5015317
what the hell, it's rotated on my computer.. sorry I guess

10 minute from photo reference

I feel good about it. Should I be ashamed

I keep doing torsos too long when I do figures, I think I keep accidentally trying to combine the torso and pelvis into one mass which isnt how the parts work. I just gotta keep practicing. Also why do my 1 and 5 minutes look better than my 10 minute

>>5015327
Damn, Hitler looks like THAT?

>>5015327
Why should you feel ashamed

>>5014961
>>5015023
the fundamental you're missing is observation and accuracy. needs more bargue. especially important for faces since you really need to nail placement and shapes

>>5015258
Chers for feedback. I used only hard round. Idk if its any better but i feel like working more on it will just ruin it

>>5015263
Find the rip of his lectures somewhere and watch the videos alongside the book.

>>5015327
Looks OK overall, but you should be ashamed that you drew his right leg bigger than the left one, while its farther away from the viewer.

>>5015356
include the part where the darkest part of the core shadow blends into the background. also the core at that point should be more curved than how you drew it since its wrapping around the sphere

>>5015334
You need to think about ribcage and pelvis separately and draw their forms. Watch some Vilppu courses, they'll help.
You're drawing mannequins and flat shapes. You need to start thinking in 3D and feel the form.

>>5015335
>he doesn't know
here's the reference i used.
it's from 1938

>>5015023
Watch Huston's course about heads on NMA. It'll help you greatly, also Loomis. You're symbol drawing - these eyes and nose are 2D shapes, you're not thinking in 3D.

>>5015360
true. thanks for the tip

thoughts? Improved sliglthy my feets.

>>5015365
>You need to start thinking in 3D and feel the form.
Its been 2 months and I still dont understand why this wont click with my brain

Anon... how do I draw and pose bodies without making my character look stiff? also hands.

>>5015171
bruh I want the real /beg/'s back this thread has been off the rocks with high quality work so far

>>5014961
Another /beg/s attempt at this. I could have fixed more things, but I was bored by it already.
Drawing smiling people when you can't draw faces good is setting yourself up for a failure - there's too many things that go into smile and even good artists sometimes fail to make it look convincing. You're still drawing eyes and nose without thinking about their construction. You're drawing a mouth as a symbol, without thinking about lips or the curvature of the mouth... And so on.
Start by drawing people with neutral face expression, with good lighting that shows face structure and preferably with males as their face structure is more defined and easier to study. There's a reason Loomis starts with them.

>>5015433

Is there a new mega link with all the video courses?

Fuck anons, motivation is kinda hard sometimes.
I see that I have improved over the past months in both skill an discipline, but sometimes when I think of what's still ahead of me I often feel so overwhelmed

>>5012939

cute!

>>5013019

learn 2 volume you're still drawing flat, look up vilppu and learn snowmans and c's trick

>>5013039
gettitng there

>>5015423
not enough anatomy

ass

>>5015498
lol her legs are small ahd her belly is in her womb

>>5015511
its my style

>>5015525
You mean it's your cope

>>5014961
>>5015457
Are we all gonna try this smiling girl today?

>>5013375
looks alright, the head, neck, collarbone were awkward so I centered them on the body. Also nose is broken, dunno if it's the style you're going for. But you should be able to fix that easily.

>>5015433
try copying life instead of styilized artwork, you'll
naturally learn how to stylize later

style is just a simplification of real life, so you have to know real life first

>>5015597
I do but I did the Suzy painting because a guy on /trash/ was having trouble himself and decided to copy the same ref to see how I'd do.
I posted it here because I've ever only painted like 5 things in my life and wanted /beg/ to criticize it.

>>5015574
I drew her earlier actually, though I didn't like how it came out and kinda gave up.
Hard to keep her from turning into some kind of horse-creature and get her likeness with that expression. Smiles are hard. Would maybe have been easier if I had rendered it but I was determined to find a way to simplify her features with lines that worked.
Also made the mistake of using no guidelines underneath so I was erasing and redrawing features constantly.

>>5015635
I don't see a point of simplifying shading when drawing expressions. You see checks, you see folds above the mouth and at their corners, etc. All that is hard to convey without some shading. Your attempt is pretty nice, though (it's very close, you didn't trace it, right?).
(mine was >>5015457)

>>5015539
i was joking, i know its fucked.
Tried to do some foreshortening and failed hard.
My straight view figures looks better but im still trash. Life is cruel.

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>>5015718
>>5015718
>>5015718

>>5015656
No, I just know how to copy photos by eye.
Take a look at what you want to copy really closely, look at the angles, negative space, see what features line up, then draw it yourself. Always refer back to the original, don't just draw what you assume is there. When you think you're done compare your drawing with the original, see what's off in your own and edit it until it matches.
You get good at it with practice, I drew a lot of still life stuff and portraits for school as a teenager and you kind of instinctively get the tricks as you keep going I think.
It has very little to do with drawing from imagination which is a totally different skill you have to learn seperately (and which I never did.)

>>5014961
>>5015457
>>5015574
NEEDS BARGUE (and l00mis)

>>5014675
Yeah

>>5014903
>>YOG
>SO
THOTH

>>5012962
that doesn't look good, but hey, it's better than what i can do, so good for you. i'm a /beg/, but at least i'm not an asshole.