/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

God I wish Stan would give me his anatomy deep inside me while holding that expression

>>5005886
>>5005886
mf'er
idk if i even want ppl to see this desu but w/e

>>5005867
this was a school art project

>>5005908
gay

>>5005909
no

So i was studying basically whole day.
On left some of my figures from morning and on right from now.
I think i'm starting to understand forms and space around them.
I can see that focusing mainly on gesture is more important than anything,
atleast thats my conclusion. Tommorow i will try to draw atleast 50 figures.

>>5005908
My leg hurts just looking at that
Otherwise it's pretty neat

More of an intermediate artist here. I just need help with determining what needs to be rendered more on the lizard before I start working into background and foreground elements. I feel like the gold standard for a nice painterly render is something like Mike Azavedo's work (but I know that's way above my current skill tier).

when figure drawing, is it ok to leave it and then return to it, or should it be done all in one go? I always benefit greatly from taking a break midway and coming back fresh (I take hours too, because beg) but I fear it might impact how much I learn

Please help. Im trying to make the character on the right look like shes sprinting and winding up for a kick, but she just looks like shes about to fall over or about to crack a jig. Also the arms on the box holding character. I used a ref and myself as ref so Im unsure if its maybe the angle im using

>>5005889
that's a pretty ok croc

>>5005945
Yeah it fine to finish your drawing in multiply sessions. If you want to learn how to draw quicker do some timed gestures every day.

>>5005950
lmao dude, left girl is going to fall in her back and the other to her right wtf

>>5005951
It's not, and it's burning right now, I tore up my drawing table and all my drawings, theyre all burning

>>5005945
Personally I'd say it's better to do it all in one go, especially if you're drawing from life when a model may not be in the exact same pose twice, but even if you're drawing from photos
it's a pretty nice habit to get less rendered gesture drawings done in one go so it can kind of train you for life drawing.

>>5005970
I DID REALIZE THIS ANGLE WOULD BE SO HARD

>>5005971
What's the point of posting here if you're going to deny other critiques, whether positive or negative ?

>>5005970
I DIDNT REALIZE THIS ANGLE WOULD BE SO HARD

>>5005981
"Another failure" as schizo anon would say

>>5005978
you would be annoyed if someone was clearly lying to you

>>5005867

y does no one crit me ever reee i know i'm shit it should be easy aieeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>5006006
i like some of your stuff, like this one.

for all those who give me mean critique

>>5005971
Is there anything more beautiful than a piece of art destroyed by its creator? Come and gone in a wisp of emotion, forever encased in the pristine confines of the few moments in time in which it existed, truly no other process can encapsulate the futility and beauty of mortality. Thank you for being a true artist.

>>5006006
I wasn't lying... I couldn't draw that croc... thanks for a hit in my confidence, ow

>>5005889
Good, stop making things you dont give a shit about.
Just draw anything any time.

>>5005908
The folded leg looks super small.

>>5005981
>>5005999
I think the figures suggest they're more "head on" than the placement suggests - try bringing the figure in the back almost parallel to the one in the front and then raising it by a little bit

>>5006036
Something like this? only problem is now the kicking character is a dwarf. Is it fine to just stretch it out bigger with the transform tool like on the right or should I redraw it?

>>5005908
Youve been drawing for a week and youre already better than me
>>5006014
I dont need your pity
>>5006023
Then youve been wasting your time

>>5006063
shut up faggot

>>5005867
why cant i finish anything i start. I always hate it not even 1/5 in.

>>5006077
well it has some soul

>>5006063
Please give me (you)s shizo anon

>>5006077
I have similar problems.
Just store it and then forget about it.
Then every once in a while you browse through this and poof something pops up in your head

>>5005981
take the box pill

>>5006081
thanks
>>5006086
I dont think il have any complete work at this rate, kek

>>5006099
Yes you will

>>5006077
Better than anything I can make, talent is cruel.

>>5006108
he's only been drawing for a week and he's already better than you. must feel bad

>>5006112
I KNEW IT
I KNEW HE WAS TALENTED AND IM NOT
FUCK EVERYONE
>>5006077
YOU POSTED THIS TO LOOK DOWN ON ME FOR NOT BEING TALENTED

>>5006120
Stop attention whoring

>>5006094
Why the hell do I forget the basics. Ive done studies like this, but when I go to draw I just forget an important bit and mess up the picture.
I dont even know If I should continue with this or just abandon it

>>5006120
lol im a pleb bro, im not that good

>>5005934
Add tiny scales if you have patience

>>5006149
They lack human interaction and fish for it here, don't engage this person

Hi bros i started drawing 3 days ago, what do you think?
>>5005889
That's a very cool crocodile, keep it up bro

>>5006170
Must have been hard work, keep at it bro you might be good like me one day :D

>>5006141
because drawing is a skill, it's not a learn to do it once and you'll always do it, it takes practice to consistently do it just like any other skill based learning like all sports for example

>>5005950
Take a picture of your doing those things, and it will make sense later.

>have a shitty hand on canvas from yesterday
>spend an hour trying to salvage it
>decide to erase it and draw it all over again
>looks alright
When will I learn to do this for literally everything that looks off?

>>5006094
how does one learn to take the box pill

>>5005867
I hate rendering the eyes because they always seem to come out like I'm symbol drawing them. Any tips are appreciated

>>5006192
look at a photo or someone and draw it while paying attention to its shapes and anatomy

>>5006192
Nice coom pic.

Whats the approach to drawing plate 18 from loomis's 'Drawing head and hands'?. I cant find where to determine the hairline from a front view and the chin always ends up way too long.

>>5006192
your puppet looks like a puppet ya muppet

just did a reilly thing. how do i make my features look less terrible/asymmetrical?

>>5006236
look at a head
idk what reily thing is but drawing circles everywhere won't make your head look magically good

>>5005867
Holy based, did he really link us? You glorious bastards

Proko is great.

>>5006248
what's he doing to that skellington

>>5006256
Putting CGI in its place.

>>5006191
watch some Kim Jung Gi perspective videos

How long would it take me from complete beginner to draw things like pic related?
Casual question though. I found the pic and thought the style was neat and wanted to ape it and draw characters for fun or some shit iunno

>>5006283
expect 5 years.

>>5006248
he mentioned 4chan in one of the draftsman podcasts saying how he doesnt mind that we banter him

>>5006236
placement feels alright, still have to work on the shape though.

>>5006283
You have to learn proportions, basic perspective, line control, basic color theory, and basic anatomy, so realistically you would need about one year and a half, but it could easily be much more than that depending on how you study. We have anons here like Mikufag that have been drawing for several years now, and their art still looks very amateurish, so it's kind of hard to give a very accurate estimate.

>>5006291
it felt dishonest tho he pretended like he didnt know 4chan

>>5006323
tell me what you mean. you're saying "you need to work on this" but not saying what "this" is. people like you are the reason it takes so many years to learn how to draw.

fucking vague asshole go kill yourself.

>>5006331
well yeah who tf wants to be associated with 4chan

Was looking through here, and I got massively depressed by everyone here being good. :(

Posting as anon doesn't really have any point to it since my watermark is on it

Most of the time, I just don't draw for months. Sometimes because of no inspiration, other times because I don't think I'm good enough.

I make 3D, Digital and Traditional artwork. The drawing posted is my personal best. The render posted is my most popular post.

Hopefully you guys can give some critique for me to improve with drawing, and also with just drawing consistently. And yes, it's minecraft.

>>5006354
why sexy minecraft.

>>5006362
Found it fun to do. It's still fun and I get revenue from it.

NONE OF YOU ASSHOLES EVER TOLD ME THAT THE EYES WERE ROTATED VERY SLIGHTLY OUTWARD

I HAVE BEEN DRAWING THEM LIKE THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT THIS WHOLE TIME

FUCK YOU

Finally did another drawing today

>>5006368
At least you can properly draw a face

>>5006236
>>5006343
it's the little perspective inconsistencies with the smaller features. his left eye is out of perspective for one. also judging by the line right beside that eye, it looks like there is a strong pertruding brow ridge, but the opposite doesn't show that form.

>>5006302
Fuck you, i laughed but can’t unsee.

>>5006368
have you never looked in the mirror, or are your parents just siblings?

>>5005867
thoughts?

aight i give up. fuck this shit and fuck art

>>5006368
but some peoples eyes are like on the right, especially Asians, everyone's different

>>5006396
Should I ask why it's Steve?

>>5006369
What's that weird shape left to his belly button? Like a half circle? Does that look right?

>>5006343
sorry, let me be more clear:

Loomis

Why does all of my colored drawings look worse than sketch and shading?

>>5006439
You’ve drawn far more sketches than you’ve used color.

>>5006439
I try to use pencils and markers for colouring. I use pencils for fabrics and stuff. Since pencils have a soft look to them. And markers for more harsh colouring and linework.

>>5006439
because dunning yourself about your other work.

>>5006441
Do I just have to draw more in color?

Any tips on hands? I’m using reference and having difficulty

>>5006451
With the third one, I'd say draw the fingers thicker.

>>5006406
His pinched love-handle/external oblique? Might have drawn it a bit too pronounced, haha.

>>5006451
Can you post the reference for the 4th pic? I don't see how the anatomy of the pinky finger makes sense unless it's broken.

Tried to draw from imagination.

>>5006369
I like how you shaded it, but your proportions are kinda wonky. His hands are way too big and his head too small.

>>5006457
copying the cast shadow from the abs and ribcage confuses the form, and you gave it the same tone as the rest so it's a double whammy.

My greatest fear is not that someone finds my drawings, but someone goes through my phones and finds all the half naked photos of me posing for references

>>5006472
POOPA *sniff*

Should I draw what I like or draw what other people like so they follow me

>>5006471
why take pictures of yourself when there is a lot of references out on the internet. What poses are you doing?

>>5006478
Its mainly to learn how limbs and muscles work. Drawing ive done where I used myself as reference usually look way better then internet references I use too for some reason.

>>5006472
Need to work on the prospective it is messing up the the proportion also post the ref.

>>5006451
you can see your own hands bro

>>5006077
Stop being a bitch ass nigga and stop wasting digits. Finish it or find a new hobby.

>>5006236
Well it's unlikely that a head is going to be in the sort of perspective where you use a vanishing point. It would be so far off the page it's pointless. It's better to assume the perspective lines are parallel. So draw the lines out. And if that's the case then the eyes are basically the same size. The other thing you can do is you just wanna eyeball it is flip the canvas. It will just look wrong and you can adjust by intuition.

>>5006459
>>5006487
I hardly come to this board now because of feedback like this. Using reference doesn’t mean I’m automatically going to do good. I’m sure many of you know this because we’re all beginners in art. If having a reference meant that we can nail everything we observe and draw, then we’ll we wouldn’t be here now would we.

>>5006499
i don't mean your drawings will be 100% okay not even accurate but rather you have your own hands/ref to judge yourself if something is off it doesn't take more 10 seconds to see any glaring mistakes...

>>5006499
You shouldn't worry too much about feedback as you said we are begs and sometimes it is hard to convey proper critiques. But for your it looks like your prospective is off giving your hand a funky look. Also remember the length of the fingers should be around the same as the palm of the hand.

>>5006464
I wanted to play with the proportions a bit but his left hand does look bigger than the right one. Thanks for the feedback anon.
>>5006465
I don't follow what you mean by the cast shadow confusing the form that well but I changed it a bit. Does it look better? Thanks for the feedback as well.

How the FUCK do you draw like shindol? I don't even mean the coomer parts, but god damn he makes anime girls look like the platonic idea of anime girls. Fuck.

>>5006539
Thanks. See even saying the fingers are the length of the palm helps out. That kind of stuff is literally all I’m looking for. I’ll try drawing the segments of the fingers in cylinders too when constructing

>>5006551
>how the FUCK do you draw like someone who’s been drawing constantly for several years
Gee I don’t Fucking know

>>5006542
>I don't follow what you mean by the cast shadow confusing the form
it's easy to tell what shape something is when it's shaded by itself.
when you've got a cast shadow from something else, then you have two sets of shadows, one telling you the shape, and another just fucking about doing its own thing.

>>5006554
I think I learn that watch vilppu's videos, I would recommended that you watch his videos if you have time.

>>5006542
Is this really /beg/ level? I feel it's better than what's usually posted

>>5006582
I'd like to see what anon can construct from memory to call him /beg/ or not

>>5006582
What difference would it even make? We’re here to learn and help each other, not climb a ladder for social acceptance within the thread general

What the fuck am I doing.
I wanted to draw a knight and now Im here for some reason

>>5006601
Holy shit I gave him Mr.Fantastic arms.

>>5006597
I uh, didn't say any of that. It's just that this is a /beg/ thread. I would imagine this could have its very own thread even, or rather I'm just saying that that would be more accurately organized within the site? Who cares though, I'm all for anarchy I guess

>>5006601
Your proportion are off. His hand is too small for his head size. His shoulder could be broader You could put more muscle on his torso.

>>5006622
How large should hands be generally? Size of your face?

>>5006616
>this could have its very own thread
No. Needing to make a thread for your own line work is retarded when there are generals to post your art.

>>5006626
the hand should be around the size of the face, the foot should around the size of the head. Just put your hand to your face and you should get a rough estimate,

>>5006638
>foot should around the size of the head
Jeez, never realized how big the foot actually was

>>5006616
I think one of the skills that beginners forget about is how to critique drawings. Having different skills level of drawing helps hones that skill set making it easier for them to see what is off with their own drawings.

>>5006561
I think I understand now
>>5006582
Thanks anon. I haven't been around in a while, I might just be used to posting here, maybe I'll try alt next time. I think doing certain gimmicky style like I did makes a drawing look better than it actually is though.
>>5006586
Pic related is the best I've done from imagination, I'd say I still have much to learn, though I'm not that interested in drawing without reference.

I just lost the game.

should I start with Keys to Drawing or Fun With a Pencil?

>>5006647
that is length wise not the whole foot, if you look at the loomis books or any drawing books that talk about proportions you see that you can break down the whole body with easy measurements.

Need some help getting the hair right...

>>5006661
either one of them would help. I think keys has more drawing excise early on so you can try that if you just want to draw without read that much.

>>5006661
Keys to drawing and Iten's accuracy guide.

>>5006665
his hair is shave on the sides. Also his jaw is more square than pointed

i went for a rougher more 'sketch' like approach, didnt measure anything or use construction, just went straight in and draw and im very happy with the way this has turned out, i think that learning the construction of something is good but as background knowledge rather than fully constructing it every time, for me anyways, will see what the future holds

>>5006745
ARGHG FUCK IM COOMING torso/ab look too long?

>draw with right hand
>left wrist is starting to hurt
How. All I do is press the buttons on my tablet with my left hand

>>5006490
There, i kinda of like it, im obviously a newb

>>5005934
Hey anon, remember me, i harped on you to give the creature some breathing space. Doing good, nice work! I would just suggest you notice that the water bed is looking a bit like a nest and forming an arc that mirrors the arc of the creature's back. I did a little bash to see what happens if you open the picture even more and make the ground smaller and different in shape. Maybe now it doesn't fit the narative but at least you see what i mean! Good job overall, i like it!

It amazes me how a bad artist who draws a niche fetish can make similar money to a very good artist who just draws well as their jist.

>>5006822
That edit looks awesome!!! Thanks a ton anon! I'll definitely open the composition up some more and fix up that water near the top.

>>5006797
I like it too, weird atmosphere and mysterious open space. Excellent!

>>5006283
BOOBA

>>5006797
This is super cool. Feels kind of like something out of Dorohedoro.

>>5006826
Glad to be of some assistance fren, you're allready very good, just a little suggestion here and there. Keep going!

>>5006170
need loomis!

>>5006629
if you're not /beg/ this is not a general for you though

Day 8 of my figure drawing studies. This time I tried for a more unorthodox pose, departing from simple standing ones. How did I do?

>>5006471
just delete them as soon you are done, also as long you didn't show your face they can't proof anything!

>>5006472
nice ass! not sure about the back tho

>>5006477
probably other people like what you like too.

>>5006283
Booba

>>5006783
bad posture, probably putting too much tension on the joint.

>>5006783
It's cancer

>>5006963
I already had cancer, I dont think Im relapsing
>>5006960
Yeah my nerves are fucked on the right side of my body so I have a tendency to lean onto the left side of my body, maybe Ill just stretch and get out my chair more often. Thanks

Grind grind grind, fix

How are the proportions?
Pose is not too stiff? Goal was him to be standing at the ready, sword in the left hand and raising his visor, looking inquisitively at the viewer
Im gonna add armour to make him a knight. Anyone have any armour types they want me to try drawing? Only rule is he needs a visored helmet, as he supposed to be lifting his visor with his right hand.

>>5006971
This is pretty

>>5006170
too much blue, I don't like blue

>>5006170
Too much shit going on

>>5006988
fuck, I think I made his torso too long again.
Its supposed to be 1 1/2 heads long, right? How many heads is the pelvis?

>>5006329
What else would I need to practice to get the same quality?

>>5006948
sorry just had to fix that forehead/knee interaction cause it was bugging me

>>5006948
I swear it's almost worth posting on /beg/ just because I suddenly see a bunch of small mistakes

Trying out things I learned from reading pixiv tutorials. Honestly I actually hate this art style and colour scheme, reminds me of the sort of thing you'd find in a shitty free to play phone game or one of those 'come play my lord' ads. The hair was fun to do though.
Also I can't draw clothes.

I don't feel ready for stylization but any suggestions?

>>5007023
go for it

>>5006988

you need more fundies in your life

>>5007053
then I'm gonna try with another angle next time

>>5007066
what do you recommend? preferably in video format

>>5007085
anatomy for sculptors is all you need

>>5007088
i'm gonna make it.

Had fun

>>5006871
Glad to be of some assistance fren, you're allready very good, just a little suggestion here and there. Keep going!

i know this is the dictionary definition of a polished turd. how do i improve from here and what do you suggest i study?

>>5007093
gmi

I'm just moving back to semi realism

>>5007066
>>5007085
>>5007088
OP here, thanks. I havent started studying anatomy yet. Guess Ill do that now

>>5007119
like this

>>5007124
THE MEGA GOT SHUT DOWN FUCK
Anyone got a pdf of anatomy for sculptors?

>>5007127
https://libgen.lc/ads.php?md5=d674505cb9043b5da837461471118d6d

>>5007127
What mega?

>>5007137
Secret mega with nearly every video tutorial by nearly every major artist. Vlippu proko peter han etc

>study guesture for the first time, do some of those quick figure drawings for like an hour
>try and draw something afterwards
>suddenly pictures actually kind of come out how I saw them in my mind
The anatomy is fucked since I haven't studied it in detail yet and I have no idea what's going on at the bottom of the skirt but every time I've tried to draw anything like this before it's looked so awkward I've deleted it immediately. Also I could suddenly draw hands (kind of) without thinking about it.

>>5007139
Shit. I only saved Dynamic Sketching 1,2

>>5007141
HOLY SHIT
ONE HOUR OF GESTURE AND YOURE WAY BETTER THAN ME
YOUVE BEEN DRAWING FOR A MONTH

>>5007148
Begone, schizo.

Jesus christ why didnt I read this sooner. This is so fucking useful. Not only is it a massive book of muscles and bones they actually explain how they interact and look in various position.
>>5007088 god bless

>>5007154
HE FUCKED US ALL CCANT YOU SEE IT
1 HOUR OF GESTURE

report and ignore

>>5007177
He's not breaking any rules.

>>5007141
is that gesture?

>>5007177
He isn’t spamming enough to be reported

>>5007186
thanks god

Let's talk about noses.
What's your technique for noses?

>>5007192
A dot followed by a strong highlight and a triangle occult in shadow to imply form.

>>5007192
I drew them over and over again from photo reference or from 3d models and copying other artists ways in drawing noses and how they simplify the shapes or planes of the nose.

This was really hard

>>5007192
Bucci

So, am I GMI? Keep in mind I've haven't practiced at all since 2 or 3 years ago, most of my drawing experience was when I drew comics as a child and this pose is most competent I can do.

Can i have some feedback? please

>>5007261
Also I drew this by memory

>>5007284
Damn anon, your imagination is filled with nothing but thighs and pussies?

>>5007286
He said memory not imagination, which is why the drawing is so fucked up. He's never seen a pussy or thigh irl.

>>5007292
Memory mostly of porn

>>5006783
are you bracing your tablet with your left hand?

>>5005867
Thoughts?
My first attempt with my dead imagination.

>>5007267
Could just be me, but the eyes look too far apart in both versions. In the left one the right eye (her perspective) looks to be too far to the right; in the right one, the left eye (again, her perspective) looks to be too far to the left.

>>5007119

>>5007306
Also the perspective looks a little off foot the eyes.

>>5007312
for the eyes* (fuck)

how do you learn how to be creative again? i've been grinding for so long I don't think i know how to

On a similar note to 5007330, how do you people get motivated to improve your drawing? I look at my stuff, say something like "wow I suck" and then don't try anymore.

>>5005934
Maybe I'm just a dumb beg, but to me the lizard doesn't have any motion to him. I guess the pose feels stiff? Other than that >>5006822 this edit was awesome. Looking forward to how this one will come out

>>5007338
Wherever motivation comes from, it’s not “you” that creates it; you can’t consciously decide to become motivated. You can maybe make yourself *think* you’re motivated, but, unless you’re unaware to the point of mental impairment, sooner or later you will start to notice your indifference or aversion to improving. That said, there are things that might revamp your motivation, like seeing art you love, remembering why you wanted to draw/make art before you lost your motivation, drawing things you love to draw, etc. These are by no means fool-proof, and may not spark new motivation in you, but they’re some things I do when the time calls for it.

>>5007294
>Memory mostly of porn

>>5007304
where are her pants?

>>5007304
kind of inconsistent with the shadows maybe use straighter more confident lines where you can and use a reference for the hand

>>5007443
Looks like something they’d sell
on a birthday card in urban outfitters

>>5007457
Damn, harsh
I was trying to copy this particular style from a japanese guy

>>5007472
>>5007457
I took a beating with a baseball bat as a kid and it's still not as harsh as that comparison

a fucking birthday card
Urban outfitters
xmas is almost here and then i can move on

If no one crits my piece, does that mean it's OK?

>>5007490
it means its not even worth critiquing, at least with /beg/ shit you can just spam loomis and hard round brush and that gets the job done.

>>5007490
Don't trust this faggot >>5007491 my man /int/ and low effort /beg/ arts get ignored very often. I've been lurking here for a year and I've seen a lot of /int/ works get ignored.

>>5007491
I meant within /beg/

>>5007499
thanks bro, I'm still low /beg/ but I truly try to put effort into it

>>5007500
It means some anons don't give a shit about critiquing your work, or doesn't see potential in you actually taking their advice. I gave some anons here and there but its mostly them trying their best and hoping they get a heads up, thats pretty much it.

>>5007509
I see, I guess I see it in me too, in that sometimes I can have advice come in one ear and come out the other. Thank you for taking the time to try and help nevertheless, anon

>>5007509
>doesn't see potential in you actually taking their advice
How can you see someone potential? I am curious.

thoughts?

>>5007514
on average your work gets spammed with loomis, just draw, sticky, villpu, or anything else this board shitpost in a daily basis, rarely you'll get a critique that will steer you in the right direction with some information about tackling the issue and even more rarely a well thought out one that address multiple issues in your work with examples and links to sites or courses you could download off from.

Been drawing for months, this guy did gesture for one hour and hes better than me >>5007141

>>5007519
>>5007509
Ive got no potential, Im talentless
Its hopeless

>>5007519
>how can you actually see potential
(you) actually trying to do your best despite failing miserably. example would be posting a finish piece with multitudes of flaws to address and give some insight in how to fix them later and posting a picture with more than one examples, ect like a screenshot of your latest figure drawing session or your attempts at drawing the human arm from different angles.

>>5007536
Cope
Its all talent

>>5007538
Talent means jack shit if you can't properly use it lol
beside it's not "talent" and more of your natural disposition to certain things in art, some people are naturally good at getting the hang of perspective, form, anatomy, rendering, ect you get the picture while others can make good composition and character designs.
this is a better definition of talent if you ask me.

>>5007543
Wrong, art industry is fake.
Ive been drawing for months yet theres no improvement, talentless.

>>5007545
whatever floats your boat and moves you forward.
also I can tell you're that persona shizoid. I don't know much about mental illness but maybe it's the leading cause of you sucking in art lol

>>5007522
loomis

>>5007536
tldr, figure drawings, and works that show the OP's implementation of your advice.

>>5007527
I think a lot of the benefit of this place is simply that you're guaranteed a few eyeballs, as a /beg/ that is very convenient because usually glaring errors are immediately pointed out. In my case I got pretty solid advice too and I feel I learned a lot from following it, even though at face level it seemed like a fast, meme-y response ("do more gesture drawing retard" etc)

>>5007564
No one cares, industry is fake.
Born into it

>>5007564
Advices like loomis spammin won't help but if you look at another angle you can the anon is saying to actually read the book for once instead of mindlessly copying funny old faces and applying the methods that loomis teach to faces, anatomy, hands, pretty much anything the book was intended to do.

>>5007527
>loomis
>just draw
>sticky
>villpu
>shitposts
perma/beg/s are embarassing

>>5007490
Could mean anything from it's okay to it's shit and people can't explain why, or just one of the handful of people who ever offer non-meme advice here wasn't in the thread at the time. Most likely the third option.

>>5007499
Half the super low effort beg shit just reeks of trolling honestly. certainly doesn't need outside criticism when the answer is almost always "put some effort in and draw longer than a month".

>>5007592
They're shitpost that don't add anything because they're generalize.
if anon was asking how to paint a car in a daylight setting with overcast they'd get shitposted with "cgma" "how to render" when they don't even have a clue whats value or how hues work in correlation to what color the light is related to actually how strong of a light that it changes it.
I'm an advocate of "just draw" as ultimately painting/drawing it and analyzing the reference picture to what you did right or wrong will net you more than watching a video course that gives nothing but theory and some advice.

>>5007609
show me who is asking such a narrow question and getting loomised.
people post empty or meaningless comments with drawings that show zero awareness of the basics, and you're not going to communicate those in a single post, this stuff takes up whole books for a reason and shitters need to read them.

>>5006971
the shape of her nose and mouth are not very appealing. not much you can do if it is from reference tho

>>5007020
I like the style.
>I can't draw clothes.
yeah that is what stand out the most.

>>5007119
that screentone thing look so bad on monitors tho

>>5007192
I just put the smallest do I can possible make, lol

>>5007338
take the atomic pill anon!

>>5007522
you have a hard time with the placement of the eyes

>>5007545
really? iv been drawing for 3-4 months and every time I use the pencil or digital pen, I can see improvements. Maybe your not attempting to criticize yourself as you draw. I often make a few lines and realize its not gonna look good, then adjust it.

>>5007230
i admire you for doing these shapes if youre that egg anon, its really good practice and youre gonna make some solid gains

>>5007529
this is the schizo everyone, this is his "terrible" work, the art so bad he spergs out

>>5007261
I can... FEEL... the form. Im gOOnNa... COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOm.
*slurp
Gmi for sure.

toughts?

>>5007443
>would you fuck me?

>>5007728
Is this a study of "Made in Abyss" art style? The gaps between the hair strands look weird.

I hate to ask this here but who’s Rey Bustos and is there a link to his stuff somewhere. I can’t seem to find what his face looks and much on him even though he got recommended to me twice

>>5007490
I can see my own mistakes. I just want some random anons to see my work.

>>5007728
I wonder what I should have for dinner

>>5005867
What is incorrect with this?

>>5007840
well for starters i have no idea what im looking at

>>5007840
His head should cast a shadow on that thing hugging around his head right?

>>5007848
Better?

>>5007860
For sure. The brightest parts of the head kinda blend with the white back ground.

Opinions?

What is wrong and how can I fix it?

Babies first anatomy drawing. Just copying muscles and trying to see how they slot in. How am I doing? Having trouble understanding how the arm muscles work (trouble copying references). How would I translate this kind of view to a view with skin?

>>5007745
Fuck, it does look like that scene, I fucked up

>>5007894
your anatomy and proportion is off. Even if you are stylizing you should make sure the drawing can "function". The body is leaning too forward, your shoulder area should be a little bigger for that bust. Don't be afraid to draw the hands and feet.

>>5007901
muscles have form. this is essentially symbol drawing. i think you should take a step back and learn to draw organic forms first. something like dynamic sketching is good.

>>5007919
is it not a feminine man with lipstick exposing himself? thats what i see

>>5007901
like the other anon said, when you're drawing muscles, you should be thinking of them as abstract cubes or cylinders wrapping around bigger spheres, cubes, cylinders, warped into their correct anatomical shape. Try going for 3/4 views, but also, run cross-contours over what you draw obsessively. Even the smallest details down to the eyelids SHOULD be thought of as cylinders. It'll fry your brain to think this way at first, but practice helps

>>5007901
its another beg tries to draw complex human forms before they can even draw simple forms like boxes and cylinders episode, go draw fruits and cups etc and come back to humans in 6months - 1 year, the human form is a very complex series of overlapping forms and shouldn't be attempted by begs

>>5007965
PYW

>>5007966
>>5006697
sure heres a 5 minute sketch i did last night

>>5007969
5 MINUTE SKETCH
and you draw like 10 minutes a day
talent

>>5007973
thanks :)

>>5007974
FUCK YOU

>>5007969
He looks like he got run over a freight train while trying to escape from auschwits

>>5007529
>>5007975

btw im the anon that said we are equal as we have both drawn for around 4 months and i still stand by thatm your heads have just as much form as mine

>>5007976
thats basically correct yeah, hes a character from a show, and the scenes after he just got out of some serious shit

>>5007960
>>5007930
>run cross-contours over what you draw
Like this? I have no idea actually how the lines would look over the abs but I tried it.
Ignore the face, I was experimenting with something

>>5007985
read the book bro, and stop trying to put the anatomy over your flawed sketch. this is wrong and will not be right because you don't understand the shape of a body
a4s literally gives you a thousand cross contour images
copy as many images from the book as you can, then try again with another sketch in like a week

Fuck this. Im not drawing anymore today

Proko's Anatomy course from Mega was removed, anyone have a new link? Studying the abs now.

>>5007985
it's better. of course you don't know what they should look like because you haven't studied them. trying to draw the full figure anatomically correct as a beginner, you're going to end up guessing at most of this stuff no matter what. try to break things down. what does a deltoid look like by itself for example. which muscles can be simplified together as larger masses? how do bodyparts wedge into eachother. where do individual muscles connect to the bones. how do muscles change form in different flexions? artist spent their whole lives learning this.

also, abs are not important for building the figure. you should focus your attentien towards the pelvis, rib cage and head in the beginning and do timed figure drawing exercises for the full figure. learning how to draw abs is meaningless if the underlying structure is flawed.

>>5007975
Cope harder talentlet

>>5008042
Youll never make it
you werent born into it
youll have no legacy beyond random twitter autist number who gives a fuck

>>5008052
I don’t even draw, I just come here to crab retards like you

>>5008039
Thanks for this
Im just gonna doodle a bit and then try drawing only the torso muscles,pelvis, etc to isolate them and understand them better

>>5008053
how sad

guys im really struggling to convert to tablet. for some reason, i cant get my lines to go were i want them. they always come out at some weird angle, making it hard to draw naturally since i have to draw slowly to get the line right.

>>5008092
you are not using wacom isn't

>>5008097
it is a wacom (medium wireless intuos in pistachio)

>>5008092
make sure your tablet is parallel to the screen

Just posting my daily figure drawing out of ritual by now I guess.
I started this when I was kindly told by anon I am unable to capture a natural-looking pose. I think I'm slowly learning how to do that and that it's time to add some variety in my studying.
Before going deep into human anatomy, I'm thinking I'll take a small detour in fabrics just to clear my head of all the muscles... but perhaps it would pay to go to in-depth anatomy now that I have figure drawing in my head fresh? Or does it not matter?

>>5008127
Not going to reupload again, just wanted to say that I see the hand on the hip and I'm fixing it so don't @ me

>>5008127
you cant be better than me, you traumatized me into not being able TO do gesture

new

>>5008160
>>5008160
>>5008160

>>5007901
good werk, now study hampton and watch his video course

>>5008134
post an image and we can compare, anon

>>5005913
>I think i'm starting to understand forms and space around them.
How? I'm struggling with that.

Someone has asked me to make I very simple drawing, I accepted despite not having touched a pencil for a year and never having worked on commission. Do I just bail out?