/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Jesus fuck. So apparently I can’t do this shit at all. Maybe that’s why I stick to sketching; attempting anything beyond that is a pathetic failure.

>>5000039
really feeling those forms

>>5000039
I am gonna redraw the OP.

>>4999992
wait i know those heels
anon what tf happened? a lot of this is totally bizarre. show an earlier version of the picture? do you have that? ik you can do better.

>>5000044
Do very long studies, like, spend 6-7 hours painting one reference image. Get the line-drawing down as tight as possible and render the forms like you see in the image, thinking as 3 dimensionally as possible (though that will come with time)

>>5000072
This was from yesterday, the only thing I saved.

>>5000080
to this.... how

>>5000039
I wish I had even a fraction of this guy's balls.

>>5000080
hmm maybe you shouldn't have spent so long on it. a lot of the lines are unchaaged. i guess you spent most of your time on nonsense.
the arms are just bizarre. and the neck.

i think the old skirt was better though?

>>5000080
>>5000094
Perspective on those arms, the shoulders and the lower right leg is all kinds of wonked. The feet are pretty good.

>>5000094
bro this is like the 4th image i made with my drawing tablet pls i dont know how to anime

>>5000112
sorry sweetie but you are not allowed from now on to draw anime until have finished your fundamentals.

>>5000077
Well at least you told me something more specific than “Loomis.” I’ll have to give that a shot. It’s so frustrating to think I had this shit handled and then learn, no, nowhere near that.

>>5000094
>>5000080
this is why you never skip fun with d pencil....... now go and feel the froms

>>5000118
>>5000160
Fuck fundamentals, I'm learning by doing.

I think what fucked me over is, I advanced from part to part without ever really looking at the whole picture.
Like, everything by itself looks good / okayish. But put together it looks like shiet.

>>5000170
>Fuck fundamentals, I'm learning by doing.

how the fuck can you just learn a subject by doing? you think people just keep trying 2+2 and 4 just pops out of no where? you need a teacher its a fucking subject go and learn forms and perspective before you even attempt bodies let alone anime, you cant even draw simple forms like a fucking cube and cylinder and youre trying a full body? do you know how complex the human form is?

now im not saying not have fun and of course draw shit you want to draw like big anime tiddies but man pick up a book if you want to get anywhere and have a balance of fun and learning

>Like, everything by itself looks good / okayish

no

>>5000170
the truth of the matter is that... nothing actually ever look'd good?

i gave up today i just cant be fucked, dunno why im posting but heres my 'face' for today

>>5000177
>>5000178
Well gee anon, I was making fun of that sentiment. I guess it didn't translate so well into written form.
But encouraging words none the less.

I'm happy I finished it and I learned a lesson about trying to use weird angles as a total fucking beginner.

>>5000059
> Delivered.
Learn from the old masters. I've already felt the gains.

hows my anatomy boys?

>>5000193
lel

>>5000197
Damn son

Still beg, did I make the pose any better?

>>5000121
I understand, fren. But the more of the barriers you conquer the stronger you get.

how to improve legs?

>>5000039
wanna see this as an exploitable

>>5000208
By studying legs

>>5000187
>I was making fun of that sentiment. I guess it didn't translate so well into written form.

you have no idea how many begs actually have this attitude so i took it at face value

>>5000214
Wanna know what makes all of this worse?
I used DesignDoll as a groundpose and worked myself from up there.

Oh well, Tomorrow is a new day and I can get to draw a new image.

>>5000212
thanks

>>5000216
>I used DesignDoll

another one bites the dust bros

Reposting, mainly to thank everyone who helped me with this piece. Last thread ended quicker then I thought.

>>5000216
stop using shitty anime models as reference man fuck , draw from life, learn to draw from life before you stylise it, just fucking do drawabox man and learn some basic forms, learn to idea of spatial reasoning and how youre drawing 3d shapes and not just flat outlines, feeeeeeeeeel the form anon you gotta feel it

didnt get any feedback last thread

New to the art world. I did this in procreate today, having a hard time finding a brush I like. Any advice or anything that really stands out that’s in need of improvement?

>>5000224
I'm feeling tired now and I'm gonna hit the fucking bed.
I'll check it out tomorrow. Goodnight.

>>5000197
can i get a real answer on what compelled you to draw this? do you just really hate trannies?

>>5000197
Stupendous

>>5000221
you are in the same boat with this guy >>5000080
, please feel the forms

>>5000197
how long you been drawing and howd you learn?

>>5000224
Not everyone has a place for figure drawing classes in their town

>>5000240
i mean life photos, and not just figures, you have apples and simple forms in your house to draw no?

>>5000242
I got pizza carton here, with burned crusts left inside.

>>5000242
In the context on the anon’s picture we’re mainly talking about the human body, not random objects like apples, cars, streetlights or anything else.

>>5000232
I actually don't hate them at all! But i'm drawing grotesque types all the time, this is normal looking for my standards and not at all a hateful depiction, if you believe that.

>>5000248
dont tell me what im talking about, i made the fucking comment

>just fucking do drawabox man and learn some basic forms

>>5000251
I don’t think with that attitude he’s gonna comply

>>5000217
hes not wrong

>>5000238
I've been drawing since forever anon, went to school for it, worked professionally, still do actually. Still trying to learn how to draw.

>>5000250
okay (:
i could probably see it being used for body positivity or something desu

>>5000255
i'm sorry, but why are you in /beg/ as opposed to /draw/ if you're literally a professional?

>>5000254
Not that anon, but I honestly have an easier time learning the torso, arm and forearm, back, hand, muscles than say the legs. Thankful you could just simplify them and group a bunch of the muscles into simple shapes

>>5000255
show me your professional work

>>5000257
I'm not into body positvity either, i just think having a body at all is weird. Beautiful or ugly, whatever

>>5000236
>please feel the forms
Im trying

>>5000258
shit, i'm posting in the wrong tab, have like twenty open

>>5000265
well it doesn't show

>>5000236
I dont think those two are comparable, atleast his limbs are in the right place

studying composition i suppose. any thoughts welcome

>>5000273
which one? that anon hide the arms and the clothes are just as flat as the other guy drawing

>>5000274
what am i even looking at

>>5000270
>>5000251
>>5000236
>>5000232
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>>5000102
Can you stop trying to give people advice? Im starting to recognize you just by your awful grammar, advice, and lack of punctuation. All I see now is "CRAB" all over your posts

>>5000274
where is focal point and what have you done to establish it

>>5000284
im only two of them, also welcome to /ic/ esl board

>>5000227
not beg, go to int
that being said, your image's values are very muddy from the nose below, along with the color just being shades of red/brown just makes it looks extremely washed out.

>>5000288
good point desu
>>5000283
nothing in specific. trying to set composition with abstract shapes

>>5000296
>go to /int/
Doesn’t exist anymore unless some anon bring it back

>>5000295
>eurofags wake up
>general goes to shit
like pottery

Trying to make this guy have the hair of Gronk, need some help?

>>5000305
Is this the DMC dance meme? heh

>>5000307
Yeah I made this already.

>>5000308
>/sp/ shitposting on /ic/
What a time to be alive

>>5000284
it's a very common writing style to avoid capitals. i don't have bad grammar and i use punctionation (i over use brackets and semi-colon especially if you want to play detective).

the guy was working on that picture for a day, he said. idk how much he means by that, but i assumed 6+ hours.
in that time, the arms didn't change, the legs didn't change, the neck didn't change. he didn't experiment with those lines hardly at all. he said that he was sad in the end it looked bad, after all that effort, but where did the effort go? clothes. so obviously it didn't look good.

you also quoted me just asking a guy if he disliked trannies-- i wasn't crabbing. i actually liked it.
the other guy quoting you is actually a crab, genuinely.

idk why i went through the effort tor write this

>>5000316
To out the guy who actually the crab. A crab wouldnt bother to write a paragraph defending himself like you did, he would write "witty 1 liner" joke response and move on, like that other faggot.
I really fucking hate crabs, and I like shitting on them whenever they come. Hopefully he fucks off for a while, ive noticed in the PM NA hours he comes on and spews shitty meme critiques and useless dribble for the next few hours

>>5000300
is it okay to bring this thread back? I didn't know this thread actually existed before, I thought it's another name for /draw/

>>5000316
there's nothing crabby about my posts, the first was just using the other dude as an example and the second was just a statement

>>5000316
>it's a very common writing style to avoid capitals
Fuck it, this is the straw on the camels back. Western society has fallen. The collapse is imminent. I renounce my tankie theory and fully agree with the fascists.

>>5000324
I mean go for it and open up /int/ but most of the post will be seething /beg/lets about which art is /beg/ or /int/

>look down at arm for quick reference
>zero muscle definition

is it retarded to learn how to draw digitally instead of traditional? i started learning through reg paper, but it felt so much better when i tried out my friends drawing pad.

>>5000336
>Drawing girl
>look down at arm for quick reference
>too much muscle definition

>>5000344
try learning on both.

>>5000344
Do what you want to do bro. One isn't better than the other. Personally I prefer trad cause I love paper!

Why cant I feel it

>>5000381
don't have the gene, sorry.

>>5000361
>i love paper
faggot

>>5000381
learn anatomy first.This is why is retarded to learn gesture first/along with anatomy, it should be done later on

>>5000382

Holy fucking shit this thread is filled with garbage. Jesus christ, are you guys even trying? PLEASE, get a new hobby.

>>5000387
Jesus why is learning art so conflicting
>Learn gesture before anatomy
>actually learn anatomy beforehand
>actually learn how light works so you can put things in 3d better
>actually learn forms to better understand shapes and how they slot together
>actually go learn construction but not really because you already know it just keep doing it forever
>actually learn how to summon a vulpa of Andrew Loomis so he can guide you wrist to draw instead
I wish there was just a linear fucking line I could follow, I feel like I keep jumping for fundie to fundie
>>5000393
Fuck you fag, im gonna keep drawing and keep posting my autistic shit just to spite you

>>5000396
>I wish there was just a linear fucking line I could follow
Doesn't exist in art lol

>>5000396
you fell for my trap to motivate you, NERD

>>5000398
It KINDA existed in miniature painting
>learn how to use paints
>learn how to properly basecoat
>learn colour theory
>learn how to properly shade
>learn how to properly highlight
>learn fine detailing
>learn blending
>learn advanced techniques like OSL, NMM, etc
and so one.
kind of an unrelated topic but I wrote it out already so whatever

i really don't like how the arms ended looking
if someone has some advice to improve my anatomy it would be great

1. Is this a passable way to sketch, or is it still too scratchy? Should I try to follow the reference 1:1 as much as I can, or is it acceptable to cut loose?

2. I was told to follow Hampton for studying limbs, but I don't grok him very well. I've also watched some figure drawing videos, and they all start by saying things like "first draw the ribcage and the hip bone". It's difficult to tell where these things are. Are there any "here's some stock photos, let's draw their planes and internal anatomy" books/videos, like Bucci's head drawing course?

>>5000408
when it comes to learning to paint/draw there isn't one single path, there's at least hundreds of different paths usually tat yield the same result, sure you could just use tons of layers for a painting and then some artist would only use a handful of it and would reach the same point as yours. being able to do that relies more of your gut instinct than say some rules and guidelines thats only good in laying down the foundation but not the overall structure of a piece.
another example is the anatomy first and gesture second, having good anatomy is definitely great if you're just doing concept art in some basic straight on or 3/4 pose but isn't really enough to say make a full on illustration with the character doing an interesting dynamic pose where the limbs are foreshortened and the torso as well. another one in anatomy if we include bones is also how to actually learn it, some artists know about the outside first and then inside, but some learn it from the inside (bones) then after that learn the muscles afterwards to attach it to the bones.

>>5000414
that forearm is really short

>tfw i daydream about drawing cool ass mechs or cool ass dudes fighting, but as soon as start the process of learning how to draw, i quit after only 1 week from boredom
one day, bros, one day.

Can someone explain why lolicons on this board are legit better than like 95% of /beg

>>5000443
they are called cunnyseurs for a reason

>>5000443
lots of bad artists drawing loli / shota on this board but also a lot of good ones. (ur wrong)

>>5000426
Im a weird situation where I studied anatomy in Nurses College, so I understand where the bones and muscles are and what they're called, its just that over the years the actual deep physiology gets lost for "work knowledge" instead. So I have to basically relearn all this information and its frustrating. I regret not getting into drawing then, I would have fucking mastered anatomy so quickly. I had access to cadavers, it was amazing.

when's it too late to learn? i'm 21 and it feels like i already missed my window

>>5000470
Probably when you're like 80 and have dementia.

day 1 croquis figure drawing

>>5000470
When you get dementia or parkinsons

>>5000470
I started when I was 27 and i'm still enjoying myself so far

>>5000475
Very nice drawings, keep up the good work.

>>5000443
They're busy drawing lolis instead of shitposting on /ic/ like the rest of us.

>>5000475
>already better than me
All I can do is think about drawing and cope. Guess thats what I deserve.

>>5000475
>day 1 and that good
shit like this is what makes me want to give up

>>5000489
as in i plan to draw figures every day this week
i have been drawing off and on since i was eight

>>5000489
>>5000490
Just crab him lol

>>5000494
What does that even mean?????

>>5000495
it means this
https://aidn.jp/wowa/295092885

>>5000094
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>>5000414
>>5000475

Don't give up, you got this.
Challenge of the day: Draw a Fruit, full color/charcoal shading. It must be complete.

>>5000440
I highly recommend "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain".
I tried lots of beginner books, but they all started off with "boring" fundamentals and I couldn't get into it at all. Drawing on the Right Side starts with what can basically only be described as therapy, not even trying to teach you how to draw, but discovering why you CAN'T draw the way you can so clearly imagine it (hint: it's not because of your hand).
It's as much a neurology book as it is a drawing book and honestly, I would recommend it to anyone, even if they didn't draw at all, just for the mind blowing experiences you get when starting the exercises and realizing how strongly you are held back by the brain's "categorization engine" when trying to be creative (not just while drawing). I know it sounds dumb, but this really is "just one simple trick!" to see the world completely different (and I mean the "going outside and looking around wide-eyed, stunned by the newfound beauty" kind-of-different).
It's in the mega, so just download it and give it try, you won't regret it and it'll improve your life permanently, if you and up drawing or not.

>>5000440
Im the same except its loli's commiting sepukku I want to draw and draw lots and lots of loli gore.

>>5000496
I thought the proko kangaroos were lobsters.

>>5000496
who is she and why do i love her so much

>>5000503
I dont own any charcoal or any crayons

>>5000519
Then do shading with pencils/ink/pen. Try blending it with your fingers. Try the challenge and complete it.

>>5000433
yeah
the proportion, shape and render is not working for me but i'm to tired to find a solution on my own

>>5000503
:) crit please

When drawing from imagination I noticed that there's two different paths I tend to take. The first is construction like the books teach you, drawing boxes for chest and hips etc. etc.
The second is just imagining a pose and then simple "copying" it from my mind's eye with no construction, just putting the lines on the paper.
Sometimes it feels like I'm discovering a drawing that's already there while putting it on the paper and making it visible.
I've had much greater success with the second method since my poses tend to look stiff if I use construction, but I also feel like it's kinda cheating.
Does anyone know what I'm talking about and where the place for this kind of drawing is in the process? Should I first put the rough sketch down from imagination and then try to fill it with a constructed mannequin? Is it a crutch in general?

>>5000541
I think you just unlocked your Kekkei Genkai and currently training and mastering your sharingan so you can unlock you mind's eye to draw poses from imagination with ease

>>5000541
Same

How do I stop being so ASS at faces, specifically eyes? Even with the Proko course I have difficulty with them. I use the ball thing and place them seemingly the right distance apart but they come out looking like acorns.

What could I immediately adjust to make my eyes, at the very least, not look like shit?

resized so that you retards can actually look at it

>>5000503
Ive never done this before in life, what the hell did i make

>>5000571
>>5000572
Faises?
more like feces lol kek lmao ftw

>>5000572
your faises are fine in my beg opinion. hold them up to a mirror so you can see if the eyes are different from each other, and make sure your eyes and irises are circles, not ovals because that matters
add hair and work on your ears, add teeth to your open mouth and you're golden

>>5000536
Learn how to shade properly.
Protips: sperate your shadow, mid-tones and highlights into 3 different layers.
Base layer must be clean.
additional layers goes on top of the 3 layers.
additional layers can be colors/textures/lines etc.
Understand contrast.
use Lambert value scale instead of linear.
Picture related

>>5000579
Go here. >>5000585

>>5000443
Anime faces are easy as fuck, you don't even have to do shit but a dot for a nose

What does "Feel the Form" even mean?

>>5000605
Feel the form, touch yourself. Especially if you are trying to learn how to draw anatomy.
:)

>>5000605
it means "have a lot more experience drawing especially from life and reference, and do drawabox/dynamic sketching"

>>5000613
>Touch self
>Feel disgusted
T-thanks, I guess

>>5000605
Think in 3d instead of 2d.

>>5000605
Make the lines of a 3D object consistent with that same object.

>>5000627
>>5000620
And how do I visualize that?
Draw people make out of boxes and cylinders, and throw on a bunch of lines around the shape?

>>5000628
Be talented

>>5000225
I'm/beg/ but I think it looks pretty cool. I dont notice anything off with the rendering

>>5000639
Yeah well me dick is talented but it still gets shredded in a blender when I put it in one, cunt

>>5000225
use as large of a brush as you can and don't let your values be muddy

>>5000605
it's meant for quick sketches/timed figure drawing type of stuff where you're drawing much more intuitively. your lines should portray form so you draw shit like cross contours and and center lines and shit. your supposed to "just feel it" as opposed to measuring it and constructing it. this is at least how I interpret it

>>5000197
Where is anatomy?

>>5000208
gesture>simple forms>muscles and bones>life drawing

>>5000475
Be aware of your volumes, those forms are pathetic

>>5000571
>proko NGMI
But seriously study forms of eyelids, eyeball etc and how muscles wrap around eye.

>>5000642
chill a bit schizo, take your time and don't rush

>>5000647
wrong

>>5000652
what then?

>>5000592
Let's see your anime face

>>5000651
>be aware of your volumes, those forms are pathetic
what did he mean by this

what is 'full colour / charcoal shading'? what does that mean?

>>5000663

Should I sacrifice my vidya time to maximize drawing time? I'm 2 point perspective boxes level beg. I play a lot of League of Legends with friends but i regard this time as wasted, and I feel guilty about not drawing instead.

>>5000673
If you can quit cold turkey, sure, but more likely than not you're just going to fall into a spiral of guilt trying to quit and not being able to. Good behavior is built on small, incremental habits.

>>5000605
It's about imagining a rough version of the 3D object before drawing it.

Except you're not trying to create a mentally exhausting 3D wireframe like an absolute beginner, you just "feel the form" and draw.

>>5000503
Just watch a video about layer blending. Don't spank me too hard.

>>5000697
>>5000503
Forgot pic

>>5000653

>>5000704
from rbh?

>>5000706
yeah, that's from drawing lessons from the great masters.

>>5000628
Practice draw primitive shapes (2d), forms(3d) then move to organic shapes, forms. There is no short cut.

>>5000490
It's implied in his drawing that he did a bit of practice before moving onto croqui and "croqui day one" means its his first time using that resource specifically. Just stop being retarded anon
>>5000613
>too fat
>doesn't work
everytime

>>5000644
checked and thanks, maybe that means its reading right
>>5000646
i struggle with this a lot, maybe my issue is color tempurature?

>>5000424
Very cool my man

>>4993327
This is the closest I've gotten to finishing something all year.

So much is still wrong with it. Right leg looks way too long and incorrectly placed but I can't figure out where it should be given his stride.

I need to learn perspective and how to place figures, clothing folds, lineweight, hands and hair.

That's not even getting into creatures/animals and backgrounds and architecture.

Or colouring for fuck sake. Just kill me now hombres

I don't own tablet. How does this look?

>>5000998
One more. It's just a practice.

How do I actually learn to do texture? I'm doing an exercise in Keys to drawing where I have to draw a tree and I feel like a toddler scribbling in. I have no idea what sort of strokes I'm supposed to use to suggest these textures, and none of the courses I've done have ever had anything to say other than "just figure it out lol".

I can kinda make em look like the characters.

>>5001004
Post your tree scribbles and post your reference

>>5001006
This is giving me so much grief every time I have to do textures.

>>5001011
And this is the reference. I feel like I'm missing the tools to interpret any of the shapes I'm seeing here.

>>5001011
>>5001016

>>5001024
(cont)
find easier reference material next.

Day... 6? since I realized how much I suck and trying to anatomy.
I've been grinding figure drawing the past few days... I still cringe when I overlay. I just keep messing up the width of things for some reason. I will think I've covered everything, but I'll have forgotten to calculate one little angle and as a result everything's out of whack.
Is at least the feel of the gestures kind of ok? I don't trust my own brain anymore

>>5000414
dont shade with black it looks muddy

>>5001075
You’re a human not a printer. Practice making your works look accurate over trying to perfectly align them to a reference. If you want 1:1 you might as well just trace. Good looking results > perfect photocopying

>>5001075
You barely manage to capture the pose

>>5001085
Thanks I needed that

>>5001086
Are you saying it's too stiff?

how am i doing bros?

I have no rendering experience, any advice from this attempt?

>>5001252
get more rendering experience

>>5001207
absolute unit

>>5000999
>>5000998
Its rough with your animu but you have the right idea. Work on your 3D shapes more though. They look like a grade schoolers scribbles.

How am i doing?

1/2

2/2

Lmk if there’s anything fundamental I should work on

>study forms
>go to draw
>pictures look even more flat

>>5001277
>study
>become aware of flaws in your drawing
>whine online

>>5001286
Just call me a retarded faggot and tell me to kill myself, I need the motivation

>>5001286
>replying

Started art with the top image recently. Probably should've started in this thread. What do I do? I know that I need to focus on doing anatomy.

>>5001293
>replying to the reply

>>5001300
>sneed

>>5001252
Studies and theory is the only way of success

what the FUCK

>>5001075
Do more gesture. Exaggerate poses.

Im in this demon hell where If I try to draw something, Im always lured into doing front facin the camera views because Im too scared to do any kind of angle and fuck it up.
How do I escape? More gesture drawing? More anatomy?

>>5001325
>More gesture, more anatomy
Yes and yes, but also do a lot of construction.

>>5001325
Seconding this. How do I escape from this?

Didn't get any feedback last thread
https://files.catbox.moe/te56on.PNG

>>5001325
just fucking reference you mong
>>5001338
AHHHH IM GONNA COOOOOOM

>>5001338
I think you got what you were going for, sameface is pretty bad but besides that its cartoony cunny porn.
also your gonna get banned again, mods on /ic/ only activate when someone posts a child, even if its not porn

>>5001341
Not him, but the fucking face made my sides hurt a bit

Is the Proko anatomy course good? I wanna try it

>>5001344
Its medicore. Try russian course.

>>5001325
fill a page with boxes in different perspectives and start filling thouse boxes with heads. no features, just start with a flat mask and a placement for the ear. then when you start to get comfortable add the nose, eyebrow ridge and cheekbones. so essentially; start simple and only add detail as you get better.

>>5000508
POST YOUR WORK PLEASE

>>5001338
This would look way better with smaller line weight

>>5000381
Ballerinas are hard though, just keep practicing and don't kurve the bones in the arms.

NGMI
NGMI
LOOMIS
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>5001417
https://www.dorian-iten.com/accuracy/ (you can choose to pay nothing for it)
i remember copying a face over and over and wondering why it was coming out wrong every time
this tutorial changed everything for me.

>>5001442
Thanks anon. Will look over it!

>>5001368
not this anon but you can use these heads as ref for the weirder angles
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/asaro-head-9d26548182f8465a8e97371a9170561e

>>5000503
why, yes, i am a retard
how did you guess?
i think i'll leave shading for a bit until i get the more fundamental down
like not doing chicken scratch or getting shapes right

why's this look like shit :/

>>5001452
It looks clean.

>>5001417
>those lines
Not trying.

>>5001417
Just look at the picture and then draw it

>>5001468
Are you saying I’m going too fast? But why go slowly when I know the result is going to be just as bad? Is it only going through that pain of knowing it’s all shit for as long as possible that I’ll unlock the ability for it to not look like shit?
>>5001473
aaaahhhhhaaaAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH FUCKING AHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGHHHGGHH

>>5001477
nah bro, i understand that you're trying as hard as you can. these other people have skills you don't. watch the tut to learn what skills you need to start copying accurately.

>>5001269
>>5001270
Not sure if I got the proportions correctly, or shading. I could try drawing a few more from different angles

>>5001473
>Just look at the picture then draw them

>>5001504
Not going to lie I've really started to regret having done portraits for nearly every high school art project.

Do I have talent? Should I act on it?
>never practiced/educated
>no references
>first drawing in months
Music is my first love but I don't mind polygamy

>>5001542
here it is with transparency

>>5001542
>do I have talent
irrelevant
>should I act on it
yes

>>5001550
>talent doesn't matter
Sounds like a healthy dose of COPE
>>5001542
is that Wii fit trainer or pearl? I don't remember either having stretch marks like a geriatric grandmother. You blended their sash into their body and made their back flat as a board.
>talent
No
>act on it
No
What you need is an egocheck and to go back to mu fucktard

>>5001542
don't fall for the weeaboo trap of drawing asses as two parallel cylinders. even good artists do this shit and it MAKES NO SENSE! pay attention to anatomy and how clothing binds to and interacts with it.

For me it used to be
>Draw something
>Looks good
>Flip it/rotate it
>Realize it looks horrible
But now it's like this for me
>Draw something
>Looks horrible and I hate it
>When I flip and rotate it, it doesn't look so bad

explain this shit

>>5001571
why not?

>>5001571
>stylizes everything
>but not the clothes around the butt, that's TOO unreal

>>5001004

>>5001473
>>5001517
this is why people draw catgirls instead

>>5001504
Tried doing the top left one since I really have been avoiding hands.
Probably shouldn't have used the pencil tool I did but honestly I have no idea what to use when doing this kind of art digitally.
Like everything I draw I got the original proportions fucked up and now it looks nothing like the original. I should have checked the angle of the table when I started.

>>5001004
do dynamic sketching

Do I know how to draw female hips?

>>5001606
eternal /beg/ if you think drawing cartoons is as simple as """"stylize everything""" and that incorrect anatomy is acceptable. fucking dickbrains you're just as bad as the COOOOM posters

>>5001624
I want to rut and impregnate all of them so you're in the right direction

>>5001626
>that incorrect anatomy is acceptable
It is, normies don't care and they accept it

>>5001264
youre on the right track keep it going

>>5001624
no

>>5001624
>>5001635
forgot pic

>>5001542
Clean out the outlines. For some reason you left them around the ass cheeks but no where else around the body

>>5001624
they make my pee pee hard

>>5001264
What are you using for ref? i wannna try this

does the loomis head method work well on anime figures? i'm trying to implement but i find myself making severe revisions. i could probably practice more.

>>5000258
this dude sounds like he used to be the teachers pet

>>5001624
Sensuous.

No ref! Ahhh! It’s actually better! I know it’s still awful but something clicked!

>>5000310
>people from other communities enjoy multiple hobbies
o.o

Is this how construction works?

>>5000039
I drew this while ignoring customer calls because I have a big brain.

>>5001542 here,
>>5001550
>>5001560
>>5001571
>>5001643
Appreciate the (You) and feedback. Like I said this is new to me so any words are greatly taken. A question I have is how do you draw panty lines/presses

This time I began with the mindset to not care about proportions and just try to capture the essence of the pose. Surprisingly this is by far my most accurate one yet when I overlay it on the ref.
It's so hard capturing the attitude and motion lines of even simple poses for me... but if I keep at it something's gotta give right? ...right?

is catbox down for anyone else?

>>5001688
I have no idea what im doing

>>5001715
sorry had to fix the arms real quick

>>5001730
not bad, just remember to study anatomy while doing these drawing.

>>5001341
>>5001339
Better?

>>5001739
Why do they look so sinister and evil though?

>>5001739
>YES!

>>5001723
it's only down for pedos.

>>5001739
Pretty good.
Also based dynamic IP cunnychad poster?

>>5001739

>>5001739
>didn't quote the one advice he took >>5001384

Why are people so against using the airbrush?
Is it that bad>

>>5001760
because it's too powerful for you.

>>5001739
I like it but maybe the boy's torso is way too curved back?

>>5001730
Thank you anon! Is my lack of knowledge apparent in the figure or just a general tip?

I'm learning to use my first tablet, rate my gesture

>>5001688
thats dumb

>>5001782
this was meant for >>5001738

>>5001811
why

>>5001815
both really, if you look at your drawing and compare it to the reference you can see where you don't know how some of the body part fit. Look at your drawings shoulders it is too stiff compare to the models, her has a little curve inwards making the right(her left) shoulder less visible. You notice more of those things with practice but those little things help the drawing a lot.

No ref practice

>>5001688
try to learn proportion and anatomy, it will help you with your construction.

>>5000296
>>5000227
Portraits don't mean /int/. This is honestly well within /beg/ territory. The eyes are symbols, colors are flat with not much attention to edges or control in blending.
Facial features are wonky (particularly the eyes, they read flat facing forward but the head is slight rotation)

>>5001825
Thank you for the good tip anon

>>5000503
First time trying to draw something 'realistic' in colour digitally. Don't really know if there's a proper way to do it or what but I think it came out OK, shadows at the bottom are kind of fucked though.

>>5001854
if you picked your own colors then this is actually pretty good. Done well!

>>5001375
Why?

>>5001861
I need some inspiration. You can post a link to the images if they are too NSFW, like all the degenerates of /lsg/ do.

Recent portrait studies. I notice things that don't line up properly or weird proportions in some places, so I gotta work on it harder (also didn't spend much time on shading because it's not that important for me at this point). But lately portraits have been easier for me to do and it feels good.

>>5001857
Yeah, I just picked them myself out of the colour wheel, unless that has some specific meaning I don't know, I'm not really up on technical terms for this yet.

Is there any merit in reading "How to draw manga" style books if I intended to draw cartoons? Im talking about actual japanese books that I'll translate with google translate, not the western shit you see in Scholastic book fairs

>>5001819
you don't know anatomy these forms represent jack shit, it's useless, the point of having a mannequin is mostly to have a guideline, so it really doens't matter the form in the end but what it represents for you, they clearly don't resemble a human body but drawing boxes like that it's as useful as drawing sticks

>>5001939
Did you have a stroke writing this?

>>5001854
nice

>>5001939
/beg/ really is the greatest thread.

>>5001939
pyw you retarded /beg/

>>5000425
this is pretty clean as far as sketching goes. as for limbs and such, it's difficult to recommend anything specific but there are a lot of youtube videos that break down specific parts of anatomy for drawing and do it very well

Another day, another watercolor. Any feedback appreciated, but unsure how many others do watercolor in these threads.

>>5001986
always wanted to do water coloring but good paper cost so much. For the drawing itself, for some reason the color seems to strong compare on what you wanted to convey

>>5001996
Good to know, thanks! Also I just paint on this stuff, was pretty cheap at Michael's. I tend to paint 4x6 so can do 2-3 paintings on one sheet. Only been doing it for a few weeks though so maybe it's shit.

feedback

>>5002006

Ive been going around copying finding poses and just trying to simply them/"feel the form". I found this propaganda piece and tried to draw it, but the torso stumps me. Whats up with his torso? Its angled down, but far to the side thats its almost a full side shot. And where is his right shoulder? Is the anatomy wrong or am I just too /beg/?

>>5002004
yeah, I ask around on the art supply thread and they recommend arches and that cost around $30 on amazon for only 12 sheets. Also if you want to get into figure drawings Charles Reid books seems good from what I glance at it.

>>5002014
right on, I'll check those out. I'm just going from imagination so would undoubtedly be an improvement

>>5002012
Or is his right forearm just angled so extremely thats its not visible behind his head from that angle? Tried the pose in a mirror and it makes a bit more sense

>>5002012
I think most of the feel the form method people forget is actually doing the pose itself.
Look at the pose and you'll see he is sweeping a broom so his whole body is in a twist and he is leaning forward a little bit.

>>5001954
>>5001971
What you guys on about? That made sense to me, essentially he's saying it's pointless to use the mannequin thing for the sake of it

>>5002035
Its not that it didnt make sense, its that he wrote a massive run on sentence with no periods, its hard to read. He wrote like he was literally having a stroke or he was about to punch his monitor for some reason

>>5002035
>it's pointless to use the mannequin thing for the sake of it
which is wrong.

concrit owo?

>>5002032
>I think most of the feel the form method people forget is actually doing the pose itself.
I have never been told this before, Ill start trying it though
>Look at the pose and you'll see he is sweeping a broom so his whole body is in a twist and he is leaning forward a little bit.
Im gonna try to redraw it and see if I get it now

>>5002051
It's really time to stop polishing it

>>5002069
i still have to draw a hand.ploz xplain

>>5002051
the most contrast (color value and edges) is on her tide pod headthings so that's where the viewer looks. maybe give her pupils so that the viewer looks at her eyes instead

>>5002078
you've been working on this for at least a week and have changed almost nothing from the last time people gave you advice. cut your losses and move on

>>5002085

other than pupils how else do i add contrast without changing the main colour (white shirt pastel pink eyes light blonde)?
i will have to look at that thread again cause alll i remember is rhe lineart comments

why is it really that ugly ?i like where its going tho i might have eye fatigue and be wrong

I think I feel this better

>>5002096
I'm a random bystander but I like it, made me feel and think things.

>>5002105
>made me feel and think things
?

>>5002096
didn't say it's ugly, just said you probably don't want your viewer immediately only looking at the headthings
you could try adding more contrast to the face itself - darkening the nose/nostrils, making the face brighter than the chest, darkening the background, darkening her eyelashes, adding white highlight to her eyes or making the eye line of her eyes a brighter white

>>5002112
thank you i understand ,yeah lol i have this autistic do a monotones thing for hours thing going on i should cut back on it

>>5002108
I like the soft colors mixed with few aggressive ones and the imagery. It made me think that my little half-sister who was recently traumatized by finding our father dead and having gone through a sort of hell might be feeling somewhat like what that image made me feel.

think i will just not draw eyes desu senpai :)

>>5002131
Make all your characters eyeless hentai men

>>5002096
>>5002051
the main problem with it, i feel, is how stiff and uninteresting it is fundamentally. it's a straight ahead bust. the moment you decided to do that, it was fucked.
not that this couldn't serve a function, but what's the intended tone of this? tide pop hair accessories, cuts on her neck, and this stiff, unnatural pose-- what are you trying to accomplish? if i'm looking at this as a finished piece, something worth holding onto for a long period of time (as others are saying you have), i'm just confused.

>>5002152
have noticed that, what if i add like im planing a hand and more suff to her face ?i havent finished it. i just want to make a character in my own cring aesthetic


>>5002123
i thought you were memein thank you . i dont know if such aesthetics come from within me or the elites have brainwashed7internalised into me but i like them

Whats after observation, perspective and construction? Anatomy?

>>5002168

>>5001807
Notice me senpai

>>5001452
Every type of light and shadow can be handled on its own layer.

YO WE GON GET AHSOKA MAYBE?

Insp from a Towergirls thread, I just want some crit on the anatomy before I ink. :>

>>5002182
It looks lik FUCKING SHIT

>>5001807
Too scratchy. More flowy.

new

>>5002238
>>5002238>>5002238

>>5001641
how accurate is this for artists and do you have a male version?

Why is it that when I try to draw a head, the result is better if I start drawing the face first (as in, the eyes, nose, mouth) and only later the head's shape? I know it should be the other way around, and I know why what I'm doing is wrong but I have never been able to do a decent face by drawing the shape first and the details later. Like it looks really fucking derpy and stupid

>>5001648
Normal pics of human

>>5001842
What does eyes being symbols mean?

>>5002051
i seen this alot, make a new drawing. Stop doing the same image over and over and asking for critique if your not gonna do anything.

>>5002367
You're drawing what you think an eye looks like rather than what an eye actually looks like.

Been since I posted here. Besides hands and line weight, where else can I improve?

>>5003517
I see this said a lot (people here come up with "figure drawing" a lot, I think that's that?), but what exactly does that mean? And how would one fix that mistake?

>>5000305
Nobody?