/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4984035

>>4984035
post work w/ reference and sum coke

>>4984035
find the nearest rope.

>>4984035
Blame Trump

>>4984035
Get fucked retard

>>4984035
hi shexyo

>>4984035
>didn't have multiple accounts in 2020

>>4984035
You've made your bed, now lay in it.

>>4984035
literally no one fuckin cares. I have no idea how you think group ov mentally ill people who spend all they day on internet can affect normies perception of you, and you should draw for normies, not mentally ill.

>>4984111
Normies do care, they don't want to feel cheated out of their money. That's why someone like shexyo lost $200 worth of patrons because of that incident in just a few days.

>>4984035
How good are your traces? If youre getting commissions, never stop.

>>4984116
Ilya had the same thing happen but he kept at it and recovered

>>4984035
I'm so sorry Shexyo :'(

>>4984035
Shexyo, please, kill yourself
take the L

>>4984128
He was one of the few lucky ones that got away with it, but most can't recover from it. Look at a situation like blue potion co. She is financially fucked and has to close down all of her shops.

Why retards put all of their golden eggs in just one basket?

>>4984035
mass reply with "no rules only tools :^)"

>>4984035
You made your bed now lie in it

>>4984035
Actually fuck CSR- dude WANT some drama for sure.
And my boy schizo did nothing wrong.
So cope and seethe.
No rules only tools.

>>4984035
Just keep tracing and outpace the competition.

>>4984035
It is time to show your actual drawing style instead of copying.

>>4984035
HAHAAHAHAHAHA FAGGOT

>>4984035
kill yourself faggot you deserve everything bad that happens to you

>>4984035
tracing is good.

>>4984035
Just start a new account under a different name and keep on tracing as usual. Sell your work to the most vile degenerates you can find, since they won't give a shit whether you're tracing or not.

>>4984035
you could either

A. Admit you fucked up, say you won't do it again and even if people still rip into you and wont believe you, start making art that doesn't involve tracing. Yeah you might get dragged for a while but if the people who caught you look at your work and realize you didn't trace then they'll either admit you got better or just screw off because they can't get their fix from exposing you now.

B. Shut your current account down, switch up your style while you lay low for a bit and then come back under a new name and account.

>>4984035
The digital version of Wolfgang Beltracchi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz6YXjSHFOI

>>4984035
Just offer YCHS and adopts people will still pay for your work

>>4984035
don't worry kyle, we all knew the truth from the beginning

>>4984035
whatsup shexyo

>>4984305
Wrong. Jeonghee is also CSR

>>4984455
can I get a tldr?

>>4984288
>Admit you fucked up
Literally the worst thing you an ever do on the internet. Never accepting responsibility and being outright obnoxious put someone completely unqualified in the white house for 4 years, you could learn something from that

>>4984164
this

First, don't deny it. If you deny, it'll only make things worse, BUT also don't apologize. Once the haters smell blood, they'll latch on you until you die.
You live with it. Present evidence that you've got skills outside of tracing. Present not-traced works. Defend your traces as exercises or a way to study (if your traces are commissions or any kind of paid work though, screw you).
It's pretty much the only legit way out.

It's either that, or you wipe your entire internet presence, wait for a couple of years while practicing (to refine/shift your style, so people won't pick immediately that it's you), and make a fresh start.

Personal opinion: tracing is perfectly fine as a tool, as long as you don't trace other people's stuff.

>>4984565
just literally don’t acknowledge it, the world is not crumbling around you because some faggots caught you tracing. Stop treating it like a big deal idiot there’s literally over 8billion people that have never heard of you

>>4984035
Tracing is a good thing

>>4984488
>Literally the worst thing you an ever do on the internet.
if you didn't do anything wrong, if you did you have no other option.

>muh trump
even he admitted to be wrong, when he was obvious wrong, like with the grab by the pussy thing.

>>4984035
You deserve that mate, I hope this happens for every lazy fags who can't sit down and practice their fundies.

>>4984035
I really hope this is shexyo making this thread. I'll never find out. would be topkek.

I really think he has the skill to make his own drawings, at least the perseverance because even with tracing alone it's still quite an admirable feat to get to 100k on Twitter.

Maybe try and sweep the issue under the rug and make your own stuff, but I don't know I'm not a PR manager.
I still think not admitting is still a good option, it's the fucking internet. I'm a bit under influence though.

Maybe just disregard my post as a whole. Tracing is still kinda gay though.

we shall have a thread listing artists that tracing/traced

>stop this from hurting my life
"your" life?
Do you mean other people's lives you were trying to live by proxy?

Fucking hollow china doll, at least the top parasites work for their coombucks, you're the guy taking stolen money and counterfeiting it. Bottom of the bottom.

hahahaha basic social media drama of stealing here stealing there, tracing this tracing that, not crediting etc. etc. just get a real job you fags you'll never have this problem

>>4984624
Seethe faggot I’m tracing all you niggas and making bank

What the fuck is the point of this purpose of this baitpost? Oh yeah, I forgot, 4chan is full of fucking mentally-damaged racist retards who just like to shit on people. Anyway, you're not the real shexyo. The replies here are stupid because shexyo probably isn't reading them. Move on already. CSR already got on his ass with the tracing, so the deal's done. Some people unfollowed shexyo, other people are still following him. It's done. Either say something thoughtful about the controversy or shut the fuck up you fucking weird trolling retards.

>>4984798
cringe

>>4984593
>if you did you have no other option.
Staying silent and continuing business as usual is always an option.

>>4984855
not always, if you fuck up too much, people will keep asking questions. and if your business depend on your good image you are fucked.

>>4984035
Just stop tracing and post your own shit. People will stop caring / forget.


Also thinking this might not be Shexyo. Shexyo says tracing isnt tracing, it's heavily referencing.

>>4984168
Somebody paste this on his Twitter

>>4984896
What he says doesn't have to correspond with what he thinks.

>>4984798
>Some people unfollowed shexyo, other people are still following him.
> other people are still following him

The people who care about tracing are a loud minority.

Most don't give a shit about the integrity of some random coom fanartist tracer.

>>4984035
Hi Borg

>>4984035
Hi Sheyexo. Trace more of csrb's titfuck work. ty

>>4985035
There are three kind of people:

-Those who care about tracing
-Those who don't care if you trace (in some cases that I'll not expand on, those who actually like when you trace)
-Those who don't know you trace (or don't know what tracing is)

You can do nothing about the first two categories, but the longer the shitstorm goes, the more people in the 3rd one will fall back in the first two

>>4984199
>Shexyo tries damage control after deleting his Discord and blocking people for the CSR question.
>CSR who's never really commented publicly before hard debunks them, defines tracing collectively, wishes no ill will against Shexyo, and asks people to move on.
>Shexyo hard spergs out a second time and tries even more damage control
Yeah sure, CSR wanted the drama.

>>4984199
How is clearing the air to cumbrains wanting drama?

>>4985265
he was just called out from whom he was tracing, so he felt pressured to respond against that accusation regardless of what CSR position over tracing was.

Shexyo plz go

>>4985377
And if you have two brain cells you can tell that Shexyo is full of shit and on full damage control.

lol Shexyo hid what they're making on Patreon now.

>>4985399
Kek, the fucker is panicking now.

>>4984912
New Shexyo post.
https://twitter.com/ShexyoArt/status/1325554021512392705

>>4985545
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

i hope karma doesn't bite me for laughing so hard

>>4985545
some fuckwit actually post it, kek.

>>4985545
They posted it a few times too.

>>4985545
Holy shit coombrains are retarded.

>>4984035
Apologize, do something to show a "human" side of yours, (like tell a sad story from your past), and promise you will never do it again.
Also say that you feel in debt with your followers because you lied to them blah blah blah.
Maybe say you've been crying all day.
Bonus points if you say you did it due to pressure to deliver to your audience.

get off the internet.

think about what you have done:
1) passed other people's work as your own,
2) lied about it
3) corrupted your trust with YOURSELF and your values as well as your audience.

Anon, just don't be paranoid. nobody from the fbi is coming to get you. you didn't murder someone for gods sake.

BUT you did steal. and stealing is wrong. it says so in the ten commandments.

Just relax, take a deep deep breath , hold, and exhale.

you're going to be fine. this is your chance to start fresh and begin loving drawing again instead of feeding audience ego points.

nobody has the right to shit on you, and any artist worth their salt has done what you did, but just got away with it (men tend to be better at hiding it than woman methinks because we're liars about our feelings uwu)

gimme some eyes,

cool those jets.

>>4985563
>you're the real GOAT
this has to be bait

>>4985545

>>4985636
>the real GOAT

>>4984073
>the Trump administration aggravated my fibromyalgia and left me in poverty. I apologize for trying to feed myself and the mexican immigrant family I was hiding from ICE stormtroopers. I hope we can all move forward in this time of healing.

I love this dude waking up some 5 year old, dusty Twitter account just to call out Shexyo. Surprised they haven't been blocked by them yet or something.

>>4984073
What if I don't reside in dumbfuckingstan

>>4984073
What if I don't reside in the jewnited states of americunts.

>>4984035
Face the consequences of your actions

>>4984035
Anyone remembers Kaneblob's photobashing art for Brand New Animal? And that was supposed to be an official promotional art too, I wonder how she gets away with it.

>>4985636
Now we going to see the real skill, and is shit

>>4985545
>>4985778
At last, it's been done.

>>4985545
Based anon exposing himself as a d/ic/khead

>>4985636
is this a man?

>>4984035
whatsup shexyo you deserve everything you're getting you hack
-csr

>>4984144
>>4984128
Ilya did redraw memes and recovered because the people raging didn't understand what the purpose of the meme was.
Blue potion co is fucking loony and started eating up domain names related to the people she was copying and having them redirect to her shop.

>>4985545
It's 4D chess to gain moar exposure. Shexyo and CSR is a one-person chink factory

>>4986198
CSR is in Europe.

>>4986198
I can’t believe retards fall for this shit

>>4986198
Nah, you can't fake the subtle seethe in the twitlonger. You can bet shexyo has had a horrible past couple of nights trying to sleep, tracing accusations probably followed him into his dreams.

>>4985988
She didn't, she lost the job and her merch etc got removed and then she got blacklisted from the industry

>>4985653
who are you quoting

>>4986151
Holy shit, was the post really him then?

>>4986605
I sent it in dms, he didn't say no.

>>4985811
then we are happy to see a tracing 3rd worlders career ruined. fuck off

>>4984128
I've seen social media post he clearly traced but did he do it for paid work? because thats what will actually get you in trouble.

>>4986828
How come you already assume that anon can't be from other western country

admit that tracing is bad (to yourself)
stop doing it
git gud

>>4986455
>thinks green text = quoting
retard

>>4988018
Reddit never left

>>4985636
what is wrong? (I don't draw)

>>4984035
Everyone here is fucking retarded lmao here's what you do of it, inb4 reddit spacing

You double down on those motherfuckers, present old artwork youve done and with the pictures you've referenced or traced for

When people ask if you trace just say "Yes", and leave it like that, if they keep pestering or go holier than thou you just say "and?" Or "ok", the biggest conversation moodkiller of all is the word "whatever"

You keep doing you, dont apologize, dont get into dm fights or anything just fucking take it. Make new art pieces of artists youve loved and make sure people know its traced, like a famous sculpture or a famous screenshkt of your fave chink cartoon

Double down nigga, dont say shit like "there is no shame in tracing", but rather act like its totally natural and everyone does it, "i trace sometimes yeah, when im inspired by something or when im struggling to portray it"

>>4988077
GL saying that retarded shit, when you're making money from it,

>>4988097
Lol

>>4988077
Amusingly, the post showing dangerous high levels of tribalistic and animalistic instinct foregoing any sort of moral compass is some ebonic writing and you guys wonder how fucking Liberia happened

>>4985563
people will suck up to literally anyone for even a 0.00001% chance of free art.

>>4988077
Double spacing, shameless, lazy, retarded, hack.

https://www.patreon.com/shexyo
How much does he make you think? 400$ a month?
I'm not trying to shit on him, just curious.

>>4988097
GL stand for good luck or Greg Land?

>>4984035
Just ignore it. You don’t even have to make an apology. The only way your life would truly be ruined is if you were accused of sexual assault

>>4988040
try making your hand pose like that

>>4989581
Yeah, felt like I should have broken my fringers just to mimick the pose.

>>4989534
>https://www.patreon.com/shexyo
LMAO
He was at 250 or something patrons last week.
The money was shown and he was at $1200something.
I guess this hit him pretty hard, and I must say he fucking deserves it.

>>4989534
>>4989962

>>4989962
>>4990205
I just see this on my end.

Keep tracing. Make them SEETHE.

this is going to be amusing

Shexyo deleted comments asking if he was CSR on Hentai Foundry. Anyone have screencaps of those?

>>4990295
holy shit, kek.

>>4990209
I mean you can trace all you want for fun because literally who cares but the second it's for money you deserve what's coming to you, it's not seething it's just getting called out by people for trying to profit off being a lazy fuck

The stupid thing was thinking he could get away with it when people were calling him out on day one lmao

>>4990333
Twitter people are so vicious. I actually have no idea what’s going on but Twitter is an absolute cancer and just makes sport out of dogpiling on whoever’s been designated the target. I never thought I would see so many regular people offer these stupid tv-ready apologies as I have on Twitter (and tumblr before it).

>>4984035
Yakuza pinky cutting.

>>4990593
Tumblr was nowhere near that extreme. Twitter is just witchhunts after witchhunts. But I'd take a witchhunt rather than be completely unknown.

>>4990593
>>4990333
This x2. It's not cancel culture or whatever to call out an impersonator.

>>4990205
Was at over 1100 when i checked at some point before i saw any dramas.

But doesn't really matter. Controversy functions on a burst taking you out at once, or nothing. If you survive the first impact, and it seems almost nobody gives a fuck, he will just build back to it.

At the bleakest his damage is that he'll lose a couple months of growth, that's still a total net-positive for someone who is parasitic in the first place. You guys losing your shit over """drama""" is a bit too much. You're really clickbaiting yourselves.

>>4990295
lol

>>4990295
dis gon be good.

>>4989890
Don't listen to these retards, first of all it's stylisation, second is that women can bend their fingers (and arms) easier than man

>>4984128
90% of his audience doesn't know that he was kronpr1nz and japan doesn't have a clue about his plagiarism shit, that's the only reason

>>4984035
you own up to it and say that you'll learn to draw, but your bad reputation won't really go away because people remember that much more prominently especially if you're decently successful

Holy shit that was fast.
https://youtu.be/XKrVWddeND0

>>4990882
>tracing is good
based chink, china will surpass USA and everyone will start copying china laws and hopefully copyright laws die worldwide

>>4990889
Fuck china and fuck copyrights laws. Everything on the internet should be fair use for creative purposes. Videos. Art. Because it is stupid limit art.

You crabs are fucking awful, taking delight in ruining other people's lives because yours are so shit. Kys you worthless trash

>>4991936
Fuck off shill. Shexyo had been tracing and not doing commissions for five months before opening a Patreon, this is obviously just bonus cash to them.
If they have time to trace and post on SM, then they have time to learn. Neck yourself for being half-brained.

>Friend wants to get a commission for the first time
>Comes to me for advice on who to choose
>We select an artist, everything seems legit, nice artwork, $140 for standard package
>He gets first sketch and final product
>Sends final product to me
>Wow, this artwork is really good. I'm gonna zoom in to see the brushstroke technique they used
>Zoom in
>Something's wrong
>Looks like a png image with... is that marker and airbrush tools on top?
>Tell my friend I think he's being scammed, tell him to wait while I do some research
>He sends me the lineart layer, as someone who used to trace when I was a kid it looks like a trace
>Google reverse image search
>Find original picture almost immediately, tell friend he's being scammed
>Report the bastard
>Friend gets full refund
>His page gets taken down
Felt good to btfo that fag. Learn how to actually draw OP

Will keep you all updated.
Giving it another day or two before sending another one.

>>4992519
I’m gonna start tracing all the good throwaway sketches people post on here just because you guys are so frail and easily triggered

>>4992532
Nah, it's just funny to have Shexyo seethe. If you wont give us that same satisfaction then we'll just classify you as a dumbass and that's all there is to it.

>>4992565
Speak for yourself I assure you faggots would rage

>>4992581
Nobody cares idiot, it's only when people try to make money off it that it matters.

>>4992584
It that’s what I was implying

>>4984624
>Do you mean other people's lives you were trying to live by proxy?
lmao imagine being this much of a faggot. You should be flattered that someone admired your work enough to copy it in the first place.

>>4992519
Include the proof that he traced (images)

>>4992650
This doesn't even contradict what I posted, retard. Envy is a womanly feeling, so please dilate.

>>4992625
If you actually made money doing low effort traces from here, people would applaud you instead of raging. It would just be more evidence of what a fraudulent lazy industry digital art is.

>>4984035
Sorry bout that Shexyo, maybe trace less next time hehe

>>4992519
OH God, I'm really attentive to how this keeps evolving.

>>4992653
>>4993896
I did.

This is for a before and after the DaftPina video drops.

>>4997781
Lol more than half patreons lost

>>4997809
BTFO tracefags hahahaha

>>4997809
He had 158 at the peak.

>>4997816
not only that, he had a 1.2k a month patreon before all of this. Now it's reduced to 800 before he ended up hiding all of this due to insecurity.

>>4997864
Ah so he must've had ~185 at the peak.

Nah he had 144 max, he was barely above 1000$ and he already lost 15 from the end of the month even before the drama (people who didn't renew). Y'all are delusional, coomers don't gaf

Jesus christ just check graphtreon before saying some retarded shit about patreon stats you mongoloids.

>>4997878

>>4997914
Idgaf about your screenshot, check graphtreon, his peak is 140 patrons stop playing with the html bill gates

When is the daftpina vid dropping goddamn

>>4984035
What you do is you say nothing. You don't address it or apologize. People will see the tracing, share it around, maybe even care for a while but at the end of the day it doesn't even matter. As long as you aren't getting into some legal problem, you draw stuff people want to see and people will come.
If you're posting coomer art don't even talk to people desu, you fucking know they aren't coming to you for whatever the fuck you say anyway.

>>4997927
Because third party sites are always accurate. K.

>>4997927
>shows proof
>starts coping after word
k

>>4998010
Imagine a screenshot being reliable proof from a 4chan anon. K

>>4984199
CSR didn’t do anything until Shexyo started blocking any mention of CSR on his page and accusing CSR of tracing him lol. Absolute proof coombrains are operating on sub 60 iq

>>4998018
Shexyo never accused CSR learn to read. CSR blocks just as much as shexyo and was first to stir up shit in his discord (there are screenshots). Don't be a biased fag at least if you're going to speak

>>4998039
>Implying a polite request not to post tracers or bring an annoying impersonator up is the same as blocking people for calling your copying ass out.

>>4998051
Implying something completly different than what I said because you can't read. csr BLOCKS anyone who doesn't agree with him just like shexyo does. Take your biased ass out

>>4998061
>Implying you're not supposed to be biased (or condemn) tracers.

>>4998066
Implying that has anything to do with what we're talking about, look up bias' definition fag you do more deflecting than a politician

>>4998039
>>4998061
>>4998072
CSR expressing that he doesn't like his tracer in an enclosed Discord server isn't "stirring up shit". He only spoke up after Shexyo tried deflecting the definition of tracing.
Sounds like we have someone giving a tracer the benefit of the doubt, anons.

>>4998078
You're just lying. CSR spoke in his discord as early as october 23rd, almost 2 weeks before the drama. Sounds like I have a brain and you don't fag

>>4998097
You couldn't be more obvious about being a Shexyo shill holy shit. Heaven forgive a dude who speaks up about their tracer after they existed for five months lmao

It dropped.
https://youtu.be/CEPc6-pU6vQ

>>4998104
Idgaf about the whole thing, I just see a bunch of fags circlejerking and slightly twist things up here and there to change the narrative. Run for president my dude you'll do great

Daftpina mentioned this board and ate up some obvious bait from here

>>4998112
>you would think they are the same person
Ooooh shit, I hope my accounts don't get found that they are all me copying someone 5 times and posting each on one account, 3 of those took off enough to give me a living

>>4998130
I was here

Somebody tell Shexyo to do a piece on this next.

>>4998114
I've considered it, thanks.

Imagine being mad that other people's work looks similar to another person's. Oh nooo the horror, get a life you fucking losers

>>4998412
nice retarded opinion you have there, /beg/.

>>4990636
That probably has more to do with the fact that its easier for shit to spread to people on twitter because it shows you anything with high engagement rate that anyone you follow interacts with versus on tumblr you only ever saw reblogs from the people you follow. Really makes me miss tumblr and loath twitter that much more when I think about it.

>>4998412
Shexyo traces.Tracers get necked.

>>4998112
Hehe, My comment went up in the vid.
Let the shitshow begin now that it has been brought up into the spotlight. What are your choices now shexy, if you had any premeditated plans under the contingency of getting revealed from tracing.

I've been trying to learn how to color, is this kind of tracing aceptable?

>>4998520
Sourcing, as what it looks that you're doing is more redeemable and won't give you trouble as far as I'm concerned. What shexyo did is frowned upon as it goes down to plagiarizing other's work, take it as copying a book and making others pay while also making them think you wrote that book when you just changed the cover to not making it plain obvious.

>>4984035
trace the right way not the wrong way.

>>4998520
Don't trace at all when learning, the point is to learn. Tracing and photobashing is used a fuckload professionally in the industry though and it's basically the only fucking thing they do.

https://sammehreviews.wordpress.com/2018/05/15/photobashing-copyright-issues/
Just look at Craig Mullins, painting over the work of other artists. All of them do it (photobash/trace other artists), just not obviously. You can't even tell that it's happened most of the time.

>>4984111
Patreon fags are mentally ill weirdos who spend all day on the internet, so if you're shilling for patreon bucks you need to appeal to the mentally ill

>>4998532
Even if I copied the colors of the background, isn't that cheating?
Feel like choosing what colors to use is a really hard thing to do, and I'm just copying someone else's work.

>>4985778
>OneyNG pfp
we knew he was based but holy fuck, this dude is the real GOAT

>>4998551
Not them. Colour balance a few times in photobash or use the colour replacement tool and no one will even know the difference. You should NEVER pipette colours when doing colour or value studies though.

>>4998551
*in photoshop not in photobash

>>4998551
It is not. If you make a pallet of colors from a picture it lets you sit and think about "why" the colors work together and gives you a bit of a grasp on what you can do to balance color temperature and intensities. I'll even throw a palette I made at you.
On top of all that, your style shows with how you use the colors, shade, and the rest of the picture.

>>4998552
As far as I can tell he was one of the first anons actually calling Shexyo out too.
With his purpose fulfilled, he fades back into lurking.

>>4998551
As long as the colors aren't trademarked you're fine.

>>4986880
Because 3rd worlders live in his he’d rent free after getting butt fucked by their ridiculously low prices

>>4998578
Actually some people over tweeter were already bringing suspicions months ago, over the time it appears to be that they were recollecting proofs of the accused tracing.

>>4998112
Based

>>4998585
A 3rd worlder wouldn't come over here, they would have just gone as dindu nuffin and let it slide.

>>4998520
It's a continuum.

subject matter, Color, style, and actual drawing.

Shexyo got BTFO because he copied literally all four from one (1) artist habitually.

>>4988097
Nothing illegal about it, the only consequence is sperg rage possibly spreading to your financial supporters.

>>4998548

Going to keep this in mind.

>>4988018
who are you quoting

>>4984798
>>4988018
>>4988029
I hate autists so goddamn much

>>4984035
hi kane

>>4984305
source of the drama thread about him stealing from jeong

So here’s something interesting.

There’s this guy called “Galakushi” who posted art from 2018 to 2020.

Their last art tweet was posted on May 9, 2020.
https://twitter.com/galakushi/status/1259027435233972227

Now, who posted their first artwork a mere week later?

Shexyo
https://twitter.com/ShexyoArt/status/1261926957115195392

Now normally I’d chalk this up to coincidence but Galakushi came back after Shexyo got exposed and has done literally nothing but try to defend him. (Just look through their recent tweets.)
https://twitter.com/galakushi/with_replies

Yeah, I’m thinkin this is Shexyo’s previous account.

>>4999255
Are you implying he actually drew?
Besides that, the conversation points he has been quite acquainted about the shexyo's drama since about the beginning.

>>4999255
Shexyo HAS to have some technical skills to've pulled it off in general and that lines up with Galkushi too. It's a little odd that a decent artist would revive their expired account exclusively to defend Shexyo - who they don't even follow.

Don't apologize, keep tracing. Fuck 'em all, you're going to make it.

>>4999255
>Follow a disproportionate amount of Japanese artists who're less likely to notice.
>Follow two of the same artists (not indicative just a chin scratcher)
@jeonghee1414
@sola_syu
>Jumped on Daft's video like a hungry fly.
>Show technical skills but defend a tracer.
>Doesn't actually follow CSR or Shexyo (coomer shame or something else?)
>Galakushi lives in EU like CSR, would explain similar upload times Shexyo had.
>Their timelines lining up perfectly.
>Similar mannerisms and insult slinging.

I'd believe it.

>>4999255
>Failed to copy Sakimichan
>Moved to copying CSR
Sad

>>4999344
no really you could pay like $5 bucks to have others trace and then finish it off $1000 bucks is a lot of profit

>>4984035
Just say that you did trace and that you're ok with it and if they're not ok with it tell them f off

>>4999255
>draw fantasy fanart
>1k followers
>shitty like/comment/rt average
>just draw coom of flavor of the week
>120k
>probably 99+ notifications at all times
For the sake of argument, let's say that it's the same person.
He probably proved the point he was trying to prove to himself.
>"Coom is easy mode"
This goes far beyond
>He traces
>he cheating
I think any artist that lurks the current landscapes thinks that porn is easy mode to get followers and has a higher chance of getting you money and has thought of pulling something like this in a way.

I have no horse in the race and i couldn't give less of a shit about who's who and all this drama, but even a shitty beg like me gets more activity when i pander.
Fuck, i even had a porn account where i drew absolute dogshit and i got more followers and likes than what i draw now.

All this witchhunt is from retards who truly believe that their existence and their work will be validated and acknowledged if they can openly virtue signal how much they dislike stuff when they would be the first to pull something ever worse than that if it meant getting attention and money.
>inb4 but he steal csr's work
Irrelevant when the work is transformative.
It's the same has two companies producing and selling the same type of bread knife.
The copycat has done nothing wrong
And even then, who did csr copy?
Ever thought about that?

>>4999255
that's sad

>>4999542
>Lower effort coom-pandering artwork is easy mode.
Correct. That was well known and I have several friends that run nsfw fanart pages and make big bucks their their DA full of fantasy paintings is a ghost town.
>Shexyo tracing is transformative.
Incorrect, tracing is tracing and that's the end of it. If they just happened to draw the same characters and used the same coloring Shexyo would just be used as a case study for how lucrative a coom-fanart page is.

>>4999255
The way he condescendingly talks to people is so similar to shexyo, but this guy can draw better hands so I dunno.

>>4999580
>Incorrect, tracing is tracing and that's the end of it
The work as a whole can be considered transformative because it isn't a 1:1 copy.
Don't justify your outrage fetish by twisting words.

>>4999651
The issue is less whether or not it's transformative, and more exposing an "artist" as a chud who barely has any of their own qualities and will never learn to draw well.

>>4999700
Aren't you drawing when tracing by proxy?

>>4999700
So now tracing is not the issue anymore and you're admitting to wanting to crucify someone.
>barely has any of their own qualities
Ok, let me use your own logic against you.
Do you use loomis? You can't because you didn't come up with it.
Do you draw comics? You can't do that.
Do you draw anime? You can't do that.
Does your style resemble someone elses? Is this person been drawing longer than you? Then you can't do that anymore.
Are you using a style? You can't.
Does your work resembles reality? You can't because you have no rights to it.
Do you draw established IPs in erotic situations? You can't do that.
Do you draw people? You can't because you have no right to recreate potentially create people that might exist.
Do you draw? You can't do that because you weren't the first human being to ever come up with the idea of creating a picture on a surface.
If you draw you have no quality of your own.

Post something what you deem original and with unique qualities.
I don't care if it's your work or someone elses.

>>4999732
No
>>4999794
Not what I meant. Basically meant >>4998613
Someone can draw the same characters, use the same colors, use the same brushes, ect. But the second they trace over a canvas having another artist do all the legwork they're a hack who doesn't draw. And in Shexyos case he basically went for exact impersonation from conduct to the patreon bio.

>>4999826
define drawing

>>4999651
>>4999732
>>4999828
>t.

>>4999828
Not tracing lmao

>>4999848

>>4999836
I hate your profile thumbnail more than you having traced, shexyo. just so you know.

Shexyo's definitively /ourguy/

>>4999826
>But the second they trace over a canvas having another artist do all the legwork they're a hack who doesn't draw.
>>4999794
And we're back here again.
If using someone elses work is not allowed, then you aren't allowed to do anything.
Don't you get it?
Imagine if one artist actually internalized or decently mastered the style of another artist.
Everything he draws is the same as the other artist. He doesn't trace.
Would you call him a hack?
Should he be cancelled because you can't stand that that guy makes it without being "original"?
>And in Shexyos case he basically went for exact impersonation from conduct to the patreon bio
You're a liar and a faggot.
Anyone with a internet connection can check for themselves that that's not true.
In spite of being a fag, the point that they're similar is valid.

Is the copycat doing anything wrong by "copying"? He isn't impersonating as to claim he is CSR. He isn't claiming CSR's works as his. It's mostly a "double", a copycat, a impersonator.. imagine elvis doubles as the best example.
Legally there is nothing wrong with what a copycat does. From a competitive standpoint neither.
People are always going to recreate successful strategies and concepts. That's how this works.
The key component is to not copy and paste a work.
Basically, you can trace and steal all the shit you want as long as.
This shit is comparable to the eternal mcdonalds vs burgerking situation.

It's all semantics. All this is drama for the sake of it.
Faggots want to see heads rolling because then they can cope with their shitty lifes.
You want to hold one accountable for their actions, but the other one not.
This cognitive dissonance seems more like crab syndrome than anything else.
>"How dare that guy making money and get attention copying another faggot when I dont get attention. IT SHOULD BE ME! I AM ORIGINAL!"
quit art of kill yourselves
i really don't care which
>>4999836
(you)

>>4999889
>Tracing isn't tracing.
K.

>>4999889
Have you not used your eyes and see that Shexyo even copied a fucking lightsource from CSR?! lmao

>>4999905
oh wow, i guess i cant use top right light sources, neither top left, bottom right, bottom left, top, right, bottom, left, behind, front, etc. because someone already used them in the past

>>4999889
>Copied CSR's conduct.
>Mimicked CSR's style.
>Undoubtedly traced in four instances.
>Copied CSR's Patreon bio.
>Copied CSR's Patreon tiers.
>Dozens of comments thought they were the same person.
>This isn't impersonation.
Are you Shexyo on full damage control here? Holy shit. We're all just having a gaff on a dude fucking up and getting caught and you're defending a tracer to the death, you're worse than /beg/.

>>4999903
>the images are loosely simlar he trace LYNCH HIM
Why hasn't csr sued then? He has his right to protect his business.
Ah, wait, because a lawyer would explain what i said even better but what would a underage chronic masturbator even understand about laws and shit.
>>4999905
So, why isn't csr being held accountable for the poses he uses in his works? There is gotta be photographs on asian models that do that exact same pose, no?
This shit is not black and white and in art there are a fuckton of grey areas to allow people to do art and not get sued and lynched by an army of faggots.
>>4999922
>WHY ARENT U AGREE WITH ME U MUST B FULL DMAG CONTRL
Not defending. Clarifying just in cause you faggots don't get shexyo's head on a pike.
If you start shitting up my board with countless threads about this drama, i swear i will get everyone cancelled.

>>4999917
>>4998613
Neck yourself.

>>4999927
>>4998613
>Reusing poses is tracing.
No, tracing is tracing. That's what we're laughing at.

>>4999928
does csrb has copyrights on that pose in particular, no? i guess everyone can copy a woman laying down. also, legs, arms, boobs dont align, so how is that even tracing to begin with

>>4984035
Untracing is a very valid solution. Untrace or NGMI forever.

>>4999932
If not a 1:1 copy, not tracing.
>saying these things
>implying you're laughing
do you even draw or are you here to burn witches?
>>4999939
To them it's bad because they're not the ones copying some fag and making bank with it.

>>4999927
>>4999939
No one here is saying that using poses other people do is a bad thing. No one here is saying that having a similar style is a bad thing. No one here saying similar subject matter is a bad thing. No one is saying pulling an style from your favorite game or series is a bad thing. No one is saying there's copyright to any of those either.
The few times (that we know) Shexyo traced are glaringly obvious and you're hella dissonant if you looked at that and thought "nah". Either that or you're goalpost moving. Or maybe you're retarded and don't think overlaying a drawing canvas for a pixel-perfect matches is tracing. The connotation of that is the dude took every step to basically be a chinese off brand including tracing to hasten the workload.

>>4999956
It's not tracing if everything is different, I don't see where it's pixel perfect

>>4984035
admit that you traced, give the source, don't apologize and move on.

unless you are selling art or putting on a portifolio, tracing is mostly a legit way of learning, just remember to indicate what you traced from.

>>4999956
Image attached is an artist doing the same pose 8 times and you can see there are subtle differences. There is absolutely no other explanation for 1:1 matches other than tracing. If Shexyo drew them himself, there would be obvious differences,

>>4999960
>>4999962

>>4999928
I honestly like the third picture more.

I can see the influence but he doesn't need to trace to achieve that imo.

>>4999973
https://twitter.com/cutesexyrobutts/status/1324777480155258880?s=20

It's not tracing my girl is winking and the other one is not checkmate

>>4999982
Literally this.

>>4999956
>no one is saying things
Yet you're heavily implying a lot of things.
I'm saying that you have no case.
You want to attach something to someone because of similarities.
If it's not a 1;1 copy, it doesn't count.
Pic related is the best example.
Heavily copied from? Yes.
Traced? Nope.

You can get your jimmies rustled all you want, but this is the business you work or want to work in.
Even i got my shit stolen by some begs.
>>4999982
In a overall sense, yes.

Call it referencing

>>5000000

>>5000000
If I didnt gave those slow loading captcha...

>>5000000
FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING IDIOT

WASTED

>>5000000
FUCK YOU FOR WASTING THIS GET
I'M CURSING YOU RIGHT NOW BTW

>>5000000
Good advice.

>>4999990
Wasn't implying one bit. You're putting words in my either either because you want to defend tracing or you haven't looked at the obvious proof and just jumped in.
>In a overall sense, yes.
No. Would you think slapping sonic in MS paint and making him green would make it a different character?

>>5000000
/thread

>>5000000
kek has spoken
no more trace
only ref
blessed bread
shexyo is absolved from all

>>5000000
Oh 4chan had to lag on me in THAT moment..

>>5000021
Stop pointing fingers and actually make a coherent argument based on facts instead of your own narrow and shallow knowledge, you absolute smoothbrain
holy shit
>Would you think slapping sonic in MS paint and making him green would make it a different character?
You haven't been around the sonic community much, eh?

>>5000032
Okay. Fact is Shexyo traced and people don't like that. There are suaves of proof that you don't care to look at and you don't care about all the red flags either.
Another fact is style, colors, subject manner, poses, ect are all fair game.
>YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY THE NEWBIE HERE STOP SEETHING AND LET ME PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.

Look at this other faggot tracing cats, wtf is wrong with artists nowadays

>>5000042
>i dont know how shit works but let me be an absolute retarded faggot about it
nigger, read the thread

Even animators are tracing, cancel them all REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>5000068
>A gif of several different motions at different angles, speeds, positioning, heads.
Good strawman.

>>5000000
god has spoken.

>>5000069
There are at least 2 identical frames in there pose wise

>>5000000
Well there you shexyo, your ticket of exempted tracing.

>>5000074
Identical, compared to reused or traced.

>>5000079
Identical, that's the word when you change hair, legs, arms and boobs, or some other detail, I see. I wonder who else made something identical, compared to reused or traced

>>4999255
It does look like Galakushi's stuff on DA is all photobashed too with radical jumps between different styles. Sometimes they look like Sakimichan and other times they look like some other semi realistic anime artist. I'd call that a red flag.

>>5000000
hi stranger

>>5000082
And tracing is the word used for drawing a canvas over a preexisting image to skip all the legwork and claim that you did it. Shexyo changing the character doesn't make it not tracing.

>>5000068
You can trace your own work anon

>>5000100
he changed the legs position, arms, hair and background

>>5000106
>He only traced 85% of the picture!

8 more tracers, lets go get them boys

>>5000115
yes, kill all tracers but not the ones i like the work of.

>>5000108
you mean he traced her back? how is that 80% of the picture?

>>5000115
Oh im loving this, /ic/ is finally fun again

>>5000123
Tracing at any % is still tracing. That torso is more like 40% of the figure.
>>5000115
No one is saying same pose = tracing.

>>5000126
But the torso matches, so it is tracing too, let's get them all, fuck those artists who made it by tracing torsos

Does this count also as tracing too?

>>5000131
Artists should be learning to draw torsos on their own.

>>4999927
You aren't going to do anything you irrelevant nigger. it doesn't matter how hard you play the sophist and twist logic to cope. people have that thing called common sense, when someone traces + copy your style + copy your light source + subject matter + poses + persona you're gonna get weird looks and be called out, deal with it shexyo

>>5000135
I'M GONNA MULTIVERSE COOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM

>>5000135
Depends if they traced it or if they drew it freehand.

>>4999927
azto seething

Shouldn't you people be drawing instead?

>>4999982
>tfw all you have to do is 5 seconds of transform tool to invalidate all accusations
good thing people actually use their brain and retards that go
>d-dude the l-line don't match pixel perfect!
are ignored or mocked.

I have a confession, I trace parts of different drawings, I even have almost 4 GBs of images organized by poses, faces, camera angles and pics for color picking. All I do is change the clothes of the character, yes I do know how to draw and specially render but with this system I can produce a lot more coom art each week outside my usual work. Just be smart when tracing and no one will ever get you

>>5000164
blog?

>>5000171
I don't think they would willingly lmao.
>>5000164
At least you're self aware.

>>5000000
fool proof solution

>>5000185
Sad thing is all Shexyo had to do was be like
"I did heavily reference for a few pictures but I'm working on working without the crutch and won't do it again."
They could've escaped it all like that.

>>5000246
>oemgee gaise is over
the coping crab meme can't get more real than this

>>5000289
No on ever said it's "over". I meant he'll have to deal with the accusations forever.
Of course coomers are gonna keep giving coomer bucks, gotta get those high-res cooms. Though he did lose 25% of his patrons when this all started.

>>5000304
>oh nooo the accusations that paypigs dont care about
>oh nooo the accusations that will be forgotten in a month
>oooooh im accoooosing
how delusional

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oacboddyu3vfomr/AADyx5UfVA4DEzEhNVEuxNR6a
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i3dmtpijz9vkb2s/AADa_hDZIk3fKoym-Yub_1Jza

>>5000314
I'm pretty convinced we have Shexyo himself in this thread. Anon was expressing a bit of sympathy to them but there's still this pseudo intellectual seething.

>>5000327
Do you really think Shexyo uses 4chan? Most people on patreon are too busy trying to expand their coomsumers, and I'm sure the people defending tracing are just trolling in here considering how bad their reasonings were

>>5000327
Why? Because someone dares to actually challenge the narrative?
Never forget; Today might be shexyo, tomorrow you.
>>5000337
Tracing is fine and i'm not trolling.

>>5000337
They do seem to be the defensive type.

>>5000343
come up with bait, it's getting old.
>>5000337
Yes, considering we have people like bbcchan and nat the lich that browse here from time to time, it's not surprising if someone like him comes here too.

>>5000372
ehrrr too.

>>4999255
>>4999365
>>4999386
>>5000083

It's a moderately strong coincidence, sure, but you fucktards are jumping the gun too soon.

If this is true that Shexyo is Galakushi and can imitate two super different artstyles pretty well, then he has much more talent than you all of worthless shit-talking /beg/'s who just sit around and crab on people because you know you won't ever make it. Coom material or not.

I know you /ic/ losers are enjoying the power-trip since /ic/ got some public attention after the CSR/Shexyo drama, but that doesn't mean witch hunting someone who could be innocent. In fact I spot at least 3 images alleging some other coom artists are tracers.

>>5000137
And you're so fucking irrelevant you couldn't even pass a second-rate tracer because you're skills are that low. You will never get 1/100th of shexyo's follower count. You're fucking nobody. Am I wrong? Post your work, bitch.

>>5000319
Thank you, I'm gonna start tracing ShexyO.

>>5000380
The seethe coming from this post, kek. Cry some more, spergyo.

>>5000380
Sup Shexy, did you like the video made about you? I preferred your Saki ripoffs btw.

>>5000380
>1/100th of shexyo's follower count
I'm already there

>>5000380
shexyo still won't retweet you, coping fanboy.

>>5000397
Why would he retweet himself

>>5000394
There are videos about shexyo?
Holy shit the absolute state of sociopathic artists.
Not even /pol/ is this fascistic.

>>5000405
Daftpina did a slightly humorous take on the situation, so a single video yes.

If people started distributing all of Shexyo's works for free in dropboxes and others started tracing his works to sell, then this retard would get a taste of his own medicine. Nobody's going to defend a tracer who gets his art stolen.

>>5000421
If I was still in college I would have done that, but I dont have enough time for retarded shenanigans anymore.

>>5000421
>>5000319

This guy's definitely a d/ic/khole. They should post their art.

>>5000409
Just checked it out
>tracing bad
>dont trace
>ohhh noo now he cant work in the industry anymore
>shexyo calling people low iq degenerates
>dont forget to donate to my patreon
Shexyo fully proved his point.
Faggots are just mad that he stealing coomermoney from them or else they wouldn't give a shit.
>>5000421
>steal bad
>les steel his work that will show him
sasuga double morality

>>5000457
ALWAYS plug the patreon bruv.

>>5000467
Shut up, normie.

Why are tracefags always so insecure

>>5000409
Also that post is mine. That youtube guy is literally stealing my creation for his work.
Why is no one outraged at this? Where is my lynch mob?

I'm sure the 19 coomers that stopped supporting his patreon really did care he traced

>>5000518
Coomer patreon are fleeting. They get the shit they want and then they go.
It's normal that numbers fluctuate.

>>5000505
Low quality bait. Here's a (you) anyway.

>>5000526
>fluctuate
It's going down

>>5000528
ill return the favor

>>5000531
It went up one since the video.

>>5000000
OP you have to do this now

>>5000534
The hell? It only went up by one and that's probably daftpina himself.

>>5000546
WHAT THE FUCK
DAFTINA IS LITERALLY A TRACE ENABLING HITLER
BURN HIM

>>5000549
That's very rude he's reading this thread

>>5000565
ok tell him to stop mentioning this board to the normies and to gtfo my board thankyouverymuch

>tracefags throwing tantrums
Lmao, they're so afraid that people are actually calling out this horseshit.

>>5000578
No one even traces these days, you moron. It's all photobashing and painting over google earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYbYvImd7Bw&list=LLq41xh90-Z3x3EtvZJky2yg

>>5000569
>gtfo my board thankyouverymuch
Fuck off you discord tranny.

>>5000569
Keep coping, tranny

>>5000589
>>5000590
Hey, i'm the one who calls the trannies out here, tranny.
Now gtfo my board.

>>5000595
Kill yourself, drink bleach and stab out your eyes, discordtranny

>>5000597
an hero, niggeroo

>>5000600
Don't worry, all trannies commit suicide in the end, you'll be reunited with the rest of your mentally ill brethen.

>>5000602
You know this doesn't work when i'm not a mentally ill faggot who will never be a real woman?
>all trannies will suicide
Let's hope.

>>5000607
>behaves like a mentally ill faggot who wants to take dick up his ass
>I-I'm not
Coping, seething and dilating

>>5000609
Shexyo is still not a tracer, faggot.
No matter what your e-celebs say.

>>5000068
https://youtu.be/O1mtl0jyPTo

Animators are literally trained how to trace other people's drawings the correct way for months. I guess those thousands of people in that industry should be cancelled too huh?

>>5000626
OMG AND THEY R USING VECTORS AAAAAAAAAAAAH IM SO MAD WHY DO THEY GET MONEY AND ATTENTION AND GET TO WORK ON ANIME BUT TRACE DRAWINGS AAAAAAAAAAAH CANCEL THEM ALL GIVE MEEEEEE ATTENTION AND MONEY AND FAME AAAAAAA H THE WORLD IS NOT FAIR

>>5000618
40%

>>5000626
Cope

>>5000626
You're reallly scratching for excuses.

>>5000000
Based, Based Based Based Based. good advice too

>>5000000

>>5000626

>>5000068
>A studio redrawing their signature shot several different times with the same team of animators is tracing
L O L

>>5002130
>doesn't know tracing in animation is common

>>5002139
You'd think they'd post an example that had actual tracing then.

>>5000000
not again...