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I have access to a ceramics workshop. How do I make something like this? Is it more practical to throw sludge clay onto a wire frame and work from the ground up, or do that shit the Renaissance men did and chisel away from a marbled block?

>> No.4993930

>>4993926
the second with a lot of smoothing later

>> No.4993941

>>4993926
Spit on it every 6 seconds.

>> No.4994003

>>4993926
I wanna fuck the marble and cummmmmmmm

>> No.4996695

>>4994003
Dangerously and outrageously based

>> No.4996788

>>4993926

That is made out of Carrara marble, ceramics workshop do not have the necessary tools for you to do this.

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4996829

>>4996788
You can make something similar with ceramic though.
Look up “biscuit porcelain”.

>> No.4997937

>>4993926
oil clay model, cast in ceramic clay, refine, fire, glaze if you want. trying to manage moisture levels on ceramic clay sculpting, or hammering out of a block just isnt necessary

>> No.4997944

>>4993926
Bruh I'm rock solid now too

>> No.4997962

Anon what makes your dunning Kruger ass believe you’d be able to sculpt that?

>> No.4998092

>>4997944
If you smack that, you'll have hit rock bottom.

>> No.4998337

>>4993926
Didn't SpongeBob already touch on this topic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8e1XElIOwM

>> No.4998341

>>4993926
I wanna put my penis inside that chunk of marble.

>> No.4998344

>>4993926
More thicc lewd marbles please.

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4998345

>>4993926
Imagine sculpting a pair of tiddies

>> No.4999318

The renaissance men only chiselled away marble once they had already modelled a scaled version of the piece out of wax. So you might as well start with clay and if it works out you can transfer it to marble later.

>> No.4999819

How about make a small copy with jewelry wax first, 3D scan it, slice to thin layers and make a scaled clay copy of every layer, then assemble it?

>> No.4999874

>>4996829
but the process is completely different. if you want to make something out of marble a ceramic workshop has nothing to docwith it.

i would suggest practicing with limestone if you are a beg and want to carve. the tools are a heavy investment hovever if you only want to make one coom sculpture

>> No.4999878

>>4998345
imagine spending hours sculpting horse's dick and balls on a central square type equestrian statue .

>> No.4999894

I don't think anyone alive can make anything close to these sculptures. Did these techniques ever get passed down?

>> No.4999941

>>4999894
it is more to do with risk/reward as well as taste. imagine spending years practicing with expensive tools, materials, studio, shipping, etc (if you can even afford that in the first place) and there might not even be a demand for it since people are more than happy with cheap imitations for their garden.

>> No.5002278

>>4998345
there is nothing stopping you.

>> No.5003018

>>4999941
There is demand among very rich folks. This is why old marbles still sell well in the art market.
Hell, even Chinese imitation sell very well for quite high prices.

>> No.5003120

>>5003018
collectors are quite few among the rich which are not that many, connecting with the high society is a huge obstacle, and auctioneers and galleries take a cut if you want to go that way.

what does high price mean to you? there are renaissance marble sculptures that are available for under 10 grand, sometimes half that. how much is a block of fine marble enough for even a bust worth?

it would be quite the investment to attain the skill in the first place. there will be years when you will hardly break even if at all. if you strive towards coming up with original compositions, a collector might find it a better value to buy antique, which are priced by different criteria than works of living artists, with the added value of history and very probably more tasteful and skillful anyway.

>> No.5003139

>>5003120
It’s my job. It’s true about pricing but I also think that the demand has changed greatly. I usually sell 19th century no name sculptures for 5k euros. 2k for a bust. A big one is usually 50k, again 19th century. All depends on the name.
18th century is extremely expensive.
You can sell a chinese knockoff, depending on the size for 10k if you’re a good salesman. And chinese knockoffs sell well because they are highly decorative and they do a good enough job if you need 20 sculptures for your garden.
I’ve visited sculpture factories in Carrara. The job is dying but it’s still there. What sells the best for these sculptors are decorative pieces for architecture or gardens.
My point is, chinese knockoffs sell well because there are quantities and it’s not that cheap either.

>> No.5003190

>>5003139
the other anon mentioned sculptures like the one in op image, so i was focusing more on an actual artist creating full sized works and selling it, and how it would be difficult as a stand alone independent artist to compete with antiques and the chinese studio-factories, and possibly even machine carved sculptures. it is not really encouraging for a carver to know that if he creates a bust he will have to compete against something that has more history and at a price which might barely cover material and tool cost.

doing original works after the manner of centuries past is always a risk no matter what craft, and there is the added difficulty of developing the refinement to create something that can pass as authentic (i have witnessed many fall into kitsch), especially for styles older than the 19th century. and people might prefer 19th century anyway because there is usually more detail or are more realistic. although for the decorative arts for that reason rococo and baroque esque designs are popular.

>> No.5003301

>>4999894
apparently nowadays people just treat the fabric with some kind of solution that would make it stiff when it dries, wrap it around the statue and cast it in plaster or something (source: some video on sculpting folds in clay I once watched)