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Anonymous Tue Nov 10 13:47:46 2020 No.4989270 [Reply] [Original]

what are your thoughts on pic related?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 13:48:35 2020 No.4989272 >>4989270 looks like shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 13:50:14 2020 No.4989274 >>4989270 I understand why is trying to say but the proportions just look very weird. Good volumes but that chicken scratch tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 13:51:37 2020 No.4989279 File: 79 KB, 720x480, SPIDERMAN-01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4989274 what about this one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 13:51:43 2020 No.4989280 fucking trash

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 13:51:55 2020 No.4989281 >>4989270 Why the fuck is her torso so long but her legs are so short

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 13:52:57 2020 No.4989285 >>4989279 girl what is you DOIN

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 13:57:02 2020 No.4989292 >>4989281 read the text

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 13:57:16 2020 No.4989293 i hate these grifters art instructors

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 13:58:30 2020 No.4989295 >>4989274 that is the opposite of chicken scratch

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 14:02:53 2020 No.4989298 >>4989270 I do something similar sometimes to make sure I have the proportions pretty okay. As for the actual drawing, not my cup of tea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 14:46:00 2020 No.4989370 >learn force method >try to draw a simple figure standing >the amount of sheer force applied to my drawing causes it to explode all over the page >looks like I tilted my cartridge while playing goldeneye in the end

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 14:49:41 2020 No.4989377 >>4989270 >but those knees though

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 15:38:19 2020 No.4989474 >>4989270 it is a interesting way to look at things

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 15:43:30 2020 No.4989487 >>4989270 >shorten legs to emphasize upper body but why, it just makes it looks worse

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 15:49:45 2020 No.4989496 >>4989270 is this an edit? that's a plain bad drawing

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 10 15:52:40 2020 No.4989499 >>4989274 Idiot.

Anonymous Wed Nov 11 12:25:19 2020 No.4991176

>>4989279
I can see why it would be popular with normies, but I've always hated over extreme art styles. I just want to fix things and I can't watch or read anything if I have the urge to fucking fix something the whole time. Like that flesh fang that one fucking anime girl is know for. Or when cartoons have 3 fingers or humans with no ears. Fuck them and their oh so original art styles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 11 12:26:32 2020 No.4991180 >>4989270 Invisible lines but forced with shapes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 11 12:29:49 2020 No.4991183 >>4989270 I think it has potential, but as it is right now it just isn't appealing.

Anonymous Wed Nov 11 13:29:00 2020 No.4991328
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>>4989270
If this is matessi he has a really shit personal style but good concepts. He talks about how he is not teaching a style in his book but his style is so exaggerated it is extremely difficult to separate it from what he is trying to teach.

His other instructers have good stuff with less exaggeration like @diluc on instagram.

All of the force books seem to just be based on disney renaissance drawing style, particularly Glen Keane but I assume Keane learned from an instructor at Disney.

If you have access to NMA, John Asaro talk about a very similar concept to force oh artifically designing figures to be more dynamic and gestural, purposefully diverging from the photo ref or model you use to "improve" it. The course on NMA is called "John Asaro Painting Approach: Analysis and Overview with John Asaro". He says right away that students have a tendency to straighten out everything and make their figures dead looking.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 11 13:58:35 2020 No.4991382 >>4989270 It's bad, mike is better

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 11 21:34:08 2020 No.4992125 Mattesi is a snake oil salesman. Disregard FORCE shills.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 11 21:36:30 2020 No.4992130 >>4992125 agreed. Terrible way to learn to draw.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 12 08:11:50 2020 No.4992881 >>4992875 >>4992875 >>4992875

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 12 09:45:49 2020 No.4993034 >>4992881 https://b-ok.cc/book/687161/b47753 they're all in this site, just look in the recommended section or search for them

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 12 09:49:22 2020 No.4993041 >>4989279 wew

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 12 23:12:40 2020 No.4994319 >>4993034 kk ty

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 01:14:14 2020 No.4994440 >>4989270 >>4989279 horrible

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 01:26:41 2020 No.4994452 >>4989270 The ending result looks like shit More vilppu please

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 03:00:46 2020 No.4994554 >>4989279 what the goddamn hell

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 03:04:26 2020 No.4994559 >>4991328 >but I assume Keane learned from an instructor at Disney i'm pretty sure keane learned from vilppu

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 03:07:44 2020 No.4994563 File: 890 KB, 719x887, C8EFEA7F-86D3-4E32-9538-B770221536B4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is my favorite force drawing

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 03:09:38 2020 No.4994565 >>4994563 this is like someone doing a parody of sycra

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:29:48 2020 No.4996472 >>4994559 You bet he fucking did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA7Naf0RF4M

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:38:42 2020 No.4996482 >>4989270 i thought schizoanon already had a thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 06:11:41 2020 No.4996890 >>4989274 literal retard

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 07:03:50 2020 No.4996928

>>4989270
Stylization is always a balance act between careful observation and pushing shapes. When you neglect the former you risk ending up with a very limited repertoire and reinforced bad habits. This is the danger of making your process too formulaic, and it shows in the work of the force guy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 07:11:57 2020 No.4996929 >>4989270 >>4989279 Jesus!! I'm glad I didn't buy this book lmao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 07:16:21 2020 No.4996936 >>4992125 >Mattesi is a snake oil salesman Platinum award analogy, almost went over my head.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 12:01:34 2020 No.4997314 File: 184 KB, 1080x1350, mike_matessi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4992125 I recently stumbled upon Mattesi's instagram and I think he could really use more FORCE in his drawing

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:01:32 2020 No.4998370 >>4997314 Nice collection of bad habits and meme anatomy

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:08:10 2020 No.4998379 >>4998370 this

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:20:25 2020 No.4998385 >>4989279 This looks like a stiff caricature of flow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 23:20:21 2020 No.4998465 >>4989279 I can't see where the main line of action is

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 23:40:53 2020 No.4998489 >>4989279 i still figure how does his spine work spider shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 23:45:32 2020 No.4998500 >>4989270 Absolutely unnecessary. It just complicates things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 12:03:39 2020 No.5001390 >>4994563 What am I looking at

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 16:02:54 2020 No.5001734 >>5001390 FORCE

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 16:17:13 2020 No.5001752 >>4994563 it's like the burne hogarth of gesture

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 16:17:39 2020 No.5001754 >>5001752 lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 16:32:13 2020 No.5001774 >>4989270 As my Illustration teacher once said, "Now you're just rationalizing bullshit."

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 16:48:10 2020 No.5001798 >>4994565 lol don't be mean to him he's doing his best

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 17:05:57 2020 No.5001820 >>5001752 Atleast Hogarth made finished work even though his figures were a bit wonky at times

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 17:22:57 2020 No.5001844 >>4989270 Looks like socialist garbage

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 21:01:59 2020 No.5004490 >>4994563 this is a nightmare monster

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 22:29:36 2020 No.5004640 File: 247 KB, 3000x2100, wellareya?.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4989270 DRAW YOUR DRAWINGS

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 09:20:32 2020 No.5007829 File: 590 KB, 1042x1042, MiltKahl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4989270 Incredibly useful! This is how animation studios do their key poses

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 09:38:53 2020 No.5007858 >>5007829 The difference is Milt Kahl was a good artist.

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