/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

i hope everyone i know fails while i succeed

I draw to keep the suicidal thoughts at bay.

>>4975336

2020 has been the shittest year so far but at least trump isn't getting re-elected

>>4975336
Starting therapy tomorrow. Hope I can regain enjoyment of things that used to mean a lot to me, like drawing.

>>4975336
No we're not, faggot.

>>4975352
nigger

A girl liked some of my art, I went to her account and she's writing manic suicidal posts. I dont know if I should help.

My wrist keeps clicking and I'm not sure why

Learning Live2D and it feels like every single video tutorial I've found is stretching shit that could be explained in 3 minutes out to 20.

>>4975374
help, you could save a life

>>4975352
>he fell for the politics meme

why do i feel so bitter about seeing other artists get help
i try to help other artists out but giving them help i still feel my bile build-up while i'm helping them

I have a decent following on Twitter and although I actually draw a lot, I post very little of my art. I have some OCs that I post on and off and I've become self conscious about posting anything that gives away anything of their actual character personalities. All I can do now is post coom pics that show their ass and tits because somehow thats easier than posting anything of substance, but then I get sad that people just like them for the coom, so I'm a fucking idiot.

>>4975374
Yeah help

>>4975352
OH NO NO NO NO NO

First /vent/ in a long time...
I can't keep a social media account or portfolio. I make one and upload a couple drawings, then I grow uncomfortable and depressed until I delete the account. Usually within a day or two. I don't even know exactly what this aversion is about, but it's not about likes or things like that. I just feel horrible as soon as I become part of these large art sites. The feeling is like getting lost while driving.

>>4975352
are you sure about that...

>>4975336
I don't have time for the grind required to improve because I'm studying in uni.

This is not related to art specificaly but after this inktober I've fond myself struggling with the simple act of drawing anything more complex than a straight line.
I want to take a break but because of my studies I can't,and in addition to that they face me a shit ton of progects with really short deadlines
I just wanna sleep right now.

>>4975352

>>4975702
Cope harder. It's OVER for trumpcels

>>4975342
i hope everyone i know succeeds while i succeed or fail

>>4975705
Oh sweaty be sure to livestream your suicide when trump is declared the winner. Be sure to prepare your noose already

>they all fell for the politics meme

>>4975716
Oh I'm not american. I'm watching for the monumental butthurt.

>>4975717
4chan is going to be fucking unbearable later this month.
Consider the damage that 2016 did to this site.
I wouldn't rule out that something dramatic will happen and the site will be taken down.

>>4975336
> Spend hours drawing ref sheets, writing constructive advice.
> OP takes it personal

why the hell is sankaku complex charging for "premium" content images now?

Insecurity and low-self esteem are holding me back. Reasonably, I make comics, draw, make money from my art, but at the same time, I feel like I do not deserve to share my creations online and no one cares. I have a lot of followers but not a ton of engagement. I let the algorithms mess me up and it sucks

>>4975719
fuck

>>4975905
nah I wouldn't worry about it too much
It looks like it's a lot less active compared to 2016

>>4975374
So she’s either mentally unstable and serious or unstable and doing it for attention. Feel free to anonymously link her to a suicide or crisis hotline (or make a burner account not attached to your main) but don’t get further involved.

I think ìve plateaud. I'm at the point where I can get into the zone and draw and color like Pic related. Background, character lines. I'm happy with it and it's fun. But I am well aware of the severe flaws. In anatomy, proportion, line quality, the rendering is dog shit, the color choices are way too saturated. The backgrounds are poorly drawn. The composition is bad, perspective has issues. It's not good for progress to have fun and get comfortable.

>doing long pose nude figure drawings at an academy
>makes me progress like nothing else
>gotta go back to normal life in a month

I will keep practicing, but there is nothing that will push me forward like this. All I can do is think of all the people lucky enough to be able to draw at an atelier/school for several years with master level instructors. There is no way I can keep up with those people, unless I go back at some point.

>>>4975719
>I wouldn't rule out that something dramatic will happen and the site will be taken down.
Oh, thank god. Hopefully permanently.

>>4976180
The issue is that there will be no real alternative left. There will be a bunch of edgy sites coming up like mushrooms, or people will flock to the current incarnation of 8c. There won't be an art board. For how shitty this one is, it still feels somehow more human than Reddit or Instagram. It's the only reason why I keep posting here although I hate the environment.

>>4976244
Then vote trump. I know he didn't do anything about the censorship in his first term but there's a chance he'll do it in his second. With Biden there is absolutely no chance whatsoever.

>>4976066
FIX HER THUMB ON THE GUN GOD DAMN IT.

Just came back from voting for Biden. Feels good man, I have so much energy that I'm gonna use to draw.

i take drawing and self improvement seriously
it honestly has made me kind of bitter and miserable
but people tell me i should stop. i think i'd be more miserable if i never tried to live my dreams

>>4976252
never

>>4976066

Pick one or two subjects you want to get gud on and focus on those. I remember your pics from a while ago, and youve progressed a lot. Dont give up!

>>4976288
>it honestly has made me kind of bitter and miserable
What happened?

>>4976247
I'm not American and I don't care about politics. I just want an art community.

I'm not necessarily hurting for commission work (though most of it is not illustration related, but graphic design) but I feel like I lack a critical thing that makes my art...fun, I guess? Like my market is character commissions, which means that 90% of the appeal is generally the expressiveness of the face of the character, but faces are my weakest area and I'm a bigger fan of material and detail.

So I need to figure out how to paint faces in a simple, "fun" expressive way that cranks up the appeal so I can get more work.

>>4976460
Also, I suffer from the fact that I am completely alone and have no friends, so I have no one I can just show my work to and get a second opinion on and quick feedback, which leads to me missing things or making a lot of dumb decisions design-wise.

TRUMP IS GONNA FUCKING WIN AND YOU'LL DILATE TO IT HARD

>>4976399
i can't look at other peoples art without feeling jealous
i can't bring myself to help people without thinking they should figure it out the hard way like i did

i used to be excited to see my friends art and excited to share anything i learned, but now all i can look back onto is everytime when i asked someone to help me no helping me or even scolding me for seeking help

>>4976469
Sorta same, but since art is my income right now, I see other people's art and how much social media clout it gets them or how they're rolling in Patreon bux and I get really jealous because I'm broke as shit.

>>4976468
I want him to because this chick I used to like I super political now and the leftist BLM nut type, so I’m hoping her mind will break and she’ll post nudes on her socials which I stalk

>>4976482
What a petty little shit

>>4976477
i don't care much about money but part of me thinks people didn't take me seriously as someone who wants to improve because i didn't want to do it for a job.
like just because i'm doing it for passion means i don't want to get better

>working on a fairly long comic script
>things are going well, at least I can manage to express what I want however clumsily
>suddenly scared I'll fuck up the rest and ruin it
>too scared to continue

>>4975352
You better start believing in the ghost stories anon

I feel so fucking miserable all the time and I cannot even understand why anymore. I have these overlapping issues that I can't make out or distinguish from one another. I am paralyzed and depressed. I feel like I'm smashing against a concrete wall over and over.

I have like 100+ Procreate texture brushes downloaded on my iPad and I can't use any of them. I "experiment" with noise, grains, overlays etc. for like 2 hrs at every piece, then delete everything and just keep outlines and fills. Why am I like this

>>4976469

I went through a similar phase of quasi-resentment when I got /fit/, but eventually it passed when I realized it wasnt other people I was mad at, but rather my own past incompetence with my own physique.
That's not to say that your past efforts with art were wrongheaded or bad- people dont come into this world knowing EVERYTHING about art- but mayhaps youre going through something similar. You see where you want to be and youre frustrated that you didnt arrive there in a timely manner.
These days, my frustration with art and fitness are passing away because I know I'm on the right path to getting the skills I want. When I look at my old heroes I think- "I understand a little bit more how they made that drawing. I'm going to mountain top where you are now."
Where did you try to recieve help with art in the past? The first iteration of /fit/ on 4chan was unironically the best place to receive fitness advice on the internet but /ic/ was never good.
Personally, I dont really ask peers for help with art.
I stick to people who've been drawing at least 30-40 years when I need advice. People with more mileage tend to do it better.

>>4976520

Im you, but at the scriptwriting stage.

>>4976547
>globohomo style
WHYYYYYY

>>4976549
I've gone to peers for advice before.
They might not always be the best resources, but when i see them helping someone else it really stings me because I just feel like they didn't help me because they don't respect me or think i'm not even worth helping.
I'm just there to serve people, not feel greatness myself.
I've gone to support them and given them suggestions and resources they've found helpful, but they never seemed to like doing the same for me.
in all fairness there is a friend who helps me now, but i've spent so long feeling helpless its hard for me to let go the past

i still think back into high school when i had a friend who said it was refreshing that i told him what looked wrong with his art, but he never did the same for me. Now he's a much better artist today, but here I am, 7 years later still with shitty doodles, just learning perespective

>>4976547
The reason digital
Is bad for beginners is choice paralysis. Grab a pencil, it can only do one thing

Seeing shit like this >>4976318
makes me want to kill myself. WHY WHY WHY, the fucker who traces gets 122k follower and almost 1k a month from patreon. I guess it's time to take the coom and trace pill.

>>4976613
he didn't start off as a tracer

>Feel stagnant
>Art is bad despite practicing on the regular
>Have no idea how to improve
>Have no one else to ask advice, critique or even point me on the right direction
>All while being overworked to death by my wagecuck job
Shit

>>4976620
Doubt that, not only he draws exactly like csrb, but got caught tracing like 3 of csrb's artwork.

>>4976587
There are two types of people: those who inspire and those who are inspired. One cannot exist without the other.

>>4976613
I never cared that much about the tracing. It's the porn and fanart being so absurdly popular almost effortlessly, while everything else get 3 likes unless it's beyond stellar quality that kills my enthusiasm. I have tried for so many years to output high effort artwork that got maybe 10 likes and right afterwards someone posts a porn scribble and it gets 1000. I always thought that of all the people on the internet you could find an audience, that people were somewhat diverse in taste.
I never expected people who pandered or went for the lowest common denominator to be less popular or paid less, but I thought the ratio of appreciation for different content was, like, 1 to 100 at worst. Instead it's fucking 0 to 1000. It isn't even worth it to share your work if you don't do fanart or porn or you market yourself like it's your main job. This isn't even to get famous, just to get any visibility.
When I get a like or follow I look at these people's profiles and they all draw the same things. I always think they're bots or automating.
For something like art where you naturally want to express yourself and share it, it's beyond depressing and it's slowly killing my enthusiasm for it.
I still draw because at this point it's a basic function I have internalized but I have lost 100% of my faith in art and people.

>>4976490
Petty? I just wanna see her tits

>>4976648
And the times I've made porn scribbles they blew up more than everything else I've put all of myself into.
It's either that I am a deeply incompatible person with just about everyone else or people have completely flattened in the last 10 years.

>>4976606
I studied at a classical art academy, Im done using pencils lol. But maybe you're right, traditional is the answer.

>out of music and do not know where to go from here
This dampers my creativity more than I would like to admit.

>>4975538
Same... but I no longer give a shit. I just drop my art on my sites and then ignore social media until the next time I post. I could just not post in the first place but I want a backup gallery and I do like seeing people like my work. It's so freeing to not care about interacting with people anymore and just being this mysterious artist. Since you post the coom it sounds like you do want to share things with people, you just don't want to get too deep into it out of fear of embarrassment. So it might be good for you to do the same, hide yourself and the details about your OCs in a layer of mystery. If you draw scenes hinting at the personalities and lives of your characters but never explain it and don't get too deep in interacting with others I think it would be enough distance to be more comfortable with sharing. Otherwise don't even draw the coom. Keep the characters to yourself.

>>4976638
yeah and my job is to never be a creator myself
is this all that i'm meant to be...

>>4976587

Yeah, It may sound callous but I only hang out with my friends for general stuff. Most people arent very good teachers and it can be hard to verbalize some of the stuff that goes through your head when you draw. You have to have a good understanding of what it is your doing before you can teach it. Thats why I tend to gravitate toward older artists when I have questions.
And keep in mind, art is an expansive subject. If your question isnt very specific, it could be hard to answer- and that assumes both the querent and the tutor are both on the same page knowledge wise.
Self-reliance, in absence of help, has always stood me in good stead. Upping my skills in self-study helped me level -up a lot.

I wouldnt feel too bad about playing catch up. I didnt draw for years after highschool, and I was able to pick up perspective after I applied myself. Just keep practicing. You'll make it.

>>4975705
>Ohio turned red
>texas turned red
Oof.
I have a feeling im going to wake up in the morning and see alot of people with shoes in their mouths

>>4976464
I feel the same. I just want some art friends or a friend in general. As I've grown older, it's hard to make connections. Sometimes I think about hiring people off a gig site to just chat with me sometimes or something

>>4975336
Therapy went well. I think knowing that I’m finally getting help is already doing wonders.
Going to try to draw again.

Holy fuck this piece of shit country really is divided to the core.

>>4977118
Cry harder libtard

>>4977129
Take your meds

>>4977131
Your (you)s are my meds

I WANT TO MAKE A COMMISSION SO THAT I GET PAID WITH A 4CHAN PASS, WHERE TO FIND SOMEONE THAT WILL AGREE TO THIS REEEEEE

BIDENS GONNA LOSE

Being a good artist is not a guarantee that you're gmi, you need marketing skills too. Sadly I don't have other skills besides drawing, I'm pretty good at it desu, my Instagram has 32k followers but I barely make enough. Man, I just want to be a full time artist, I can't stand the pressure of a "real job" having to work and interact with people. I'm not lazy, I draw almost 8-12 hours a day just to have new content to share. I am so tired. I hope the world paves a way for me to die a quick death without killing myself.

>>4977158
fuck yea he is

>>4977174
honestly if you can draw your dreams you've already made it

>>4975352
how the fuck is it so close it was supposed to be an easy biden victory

>>4977288
Lots of people like Trump's policies. Lots of people don't want to vote for a person with dementia. Lots of people unironically think Trump is a warrior for justice against the globalists

>>4977289
Just saying, are there not other, better republicans?

test

>>4977390
fugg :DDDDDDDDDD

>been posting my work asking for crits for 2 weeks straight
>either just get ignored or short responses like "not bad"

I guess that's a sign for me to just give up posting here. Maybe i'll get more feedback on Discord, so I should start posting there more often.

Big artist retweeted me, so I got over 5k likes.
My followers have tripled because of that (from 60 to 180).

On the one hand, I am grateful for this boost.
On the other, I'm discouraged that all 90 previous drawings I posted over the course of 2 years resulted in basically no exposure/following.
(I did fanart/trend-hopping a couple times, I tag shit, so that's probably not the issue.)

Thoughts?

>furries
Not even once

>>4975716
>>4977006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UtRnGn5hc

what did i say trumpcels. You'll never make it as an artist AND your retard has been evicted.
Get off my board now

>>4977288
If you thought it was going to be a easy biden win, you haven't been paying attention at all.

>>4977503
It's 2016 all over again.

Looks like im going to have to start unfollowing more artists bc they won't stfu about Drumpf

>>4977506
>dems are this deluded
Even with all those last minute ballots they "found" Trump is still set to win.
Sorry bidencuck, but its 4 more yrs.

>>4977515
I'm kinda surprised that not a single artist out of 1.5k people that I follow posted political bullshit in the recent days.

>>4977517
RJ Palmer, an artist I used to like and respect is starting to go full sjw again and unfollowed him after he made a simliar statement.

>>4977518
I'm just checking some artists that I used to like and it's just like this. Imagine lacking self-awareness this much

>>4977516
cope harder. no more trump hogging the news cycle. no more leftie and rightoid bitch fights. /ic/ has a chance of gaining some normalcy without the pol spastics clogging the board.

2021 is gonna be bright

>one of my Twitter art posts blew up for some reason
>check the notifications, it's filled with people shitposting, insulting me, etc
>look into it more
>turns out it was linked on this fucking site, but not on a "good" board
fuck, honestly not sure what to do now. nuclear option and delete my account? delete the post? close replies? sleep forever? goddamnit

>>4977578
depends what your twitter post was

>>4977582
just fanart, nothing political or sjw-leaning or whatever

>>4977585
ignore it

>>4977578
Seems like the best option is to go to whatever board it is and call them faggots for a few hours and to derail the threads a few times. Don't bother deleting your account or anything like that, they'll get bored. And you might be able to play a victim card and get pity twitter follows out of posting all the shit the faggots said on reddit or something or on twitter.

>>4976733
did you try gnoosic?

>>4977524
>kajin man
Just another retarded westerner artist, move along

>>4977488
Twitter is just a popularity contest with a weird algorithm that strongly disfavors many good artists for seemingly arbitrary reasons. It's better to post on other sites.

Bidenbros...we did it...

>>4977578
>>4977585
I have a feeling you are not telling the full picture. Post the work, it has already been linked to 4chan anyway

>>4977930
And by that do you mean absolutely nothing?

For the first time in like 2 months I posted porn and 90% of my new followers are trannies

>>4975373
>>4975621
>>4975678
>>4975702
>>4975716
:)

>>4978319
This is why nobody likes you.

>>4978319
>they posted the smug smiley face
>votes have been frozen since 4am and are still being recounted due to suspected fraud
>county ballots are reporting completely different numbers than what the msm is broadcasting- most of which are indicating Trump is actually in the lead
>mfw Trump won

You shouldnt have done that....

God my back hurts, I hope it's not another pilonidal cyst.

>>4978478
that's really cute anon

magacels >>>/out

Cope and dilate somewhere else.
/ic/ is now a GMI board again

>>4978514
go back to dgg

>>4978514
This post as well as all the others acting as if Biden already won will NOT age well once the recounts are finally over.

>>4978514
We brought America back to sanity! We did it!

>>4978572
you need a refill on your copium prescription buddy?

>>4978706
Man you're sure gonna need a refill on that soon

>>4977578
>turns out it was linked on this fucking site, but not on a "good" board
how the fuck did they find it if they weren't also on that board then? tell those people to eat shit man. they're not worth your time.

>>4975345
Best choice for you then.
Turn frustration into motivation.

>>4975374
Nonono
DONT FUCK WITH CRAZY- you will regret it.
Are you underage huh?

>>4977503
As a furry artist who doesn’t post anything but art it’s incredibly infuriating and next to impossible to find other (english speaking)furry artists who don’t shit up my feed with their whining.

>>4975342
i hope you fail and burn and everyone finds out you never had hope for them in the first place.

To all the hairy anons, please get your ass-crack hair lasered.
Don't end up like me
Just tell the clinic it's for a pilonidal cyst... They'll know

>>4978487
The last surgery took 5 months to heal.
I don't think it's a cyst this time, just back pain.

>>4978706
If Biden actually won they would have announced it by now.

I've been plateauing hard for a couple months.
I know it's my fault for staying in my confort zone, but damn it's starting to frustrate me quite hard there

>>4975336
why the fuck is amigos capitalized

>>4979188
Because by posting in this thread, your name gets legally changed to Amigos

>>4975336
there are actual leftists on /pol/

>>4979207
it's overrun by leftists and shills now. I actually had to leave because I couldn't make heads or tails from all that was going on.

>>4978319
they deleted the fucking posts lmao the absolute state of trumpcels

>Unmotivated
>no idea what to draw
>Feels like loomer
>working at office everyday

>>4979272
more likely one or two people got jannied considering there's posts missing in other threads and one of the ones they're replying to got the axe.

>>4979283
Atleast you have a job anon. I'm sitting here in my parents house, unable to get a job thats not flipping burgers. I have this weird feeling of wanting to draw but not wanting to at the same time. At this rate I might just join the military, and if that doesn't work out, I'll probably kill myself.

>>4975538
>I have some OCs that I post on and off and I've become self conscious about posting anything that gives away anything of their actual character personalities.
Don't do this. Don't be self-conscious and just post them. Holding yourself back like that will just result in you making flat characters. The other extreme is just as bad (drawing a picture with a caption that spoils their life history in a wall of text) but making flat characters is pretty limiting and hold you back from improving as a storyteller.

>>4979291
Don't die we will win someday

>>4979291
same, but not joining the military, probably just flip burgers.

Just finished a commission, but don't know what next, don't know where to find the next client. I've been trying to avoid a regular job since I dropped out back in 2018, my batchmates are now engineers working at huge companies, while I'm at my parents house trying to make it. Things are getting bleak for me. I thought I can pull it off because I'm talented but it's not enough.

>>4979297
I can't see light at the end of the tunnel. My dream is to make a comic book/graphic novel but that doesn't pay the bills even when western polishers weren't dropping like flies due to the cung flu. I want to make money with my art, but the only people I see making consistent money from it are coomers, souless concept art drones and animators working 60+ hours a week to live in a shoe box. It feels futile to even try to do the things I want to do.

>>4975342
Based and crabpilled

>>4979305
draw coom

>>4979319
this might be the only way, I'll try.

>>4979331
Just trace from porn/softcore if you're not sure of your skill. You literally cannot fail.

Uni didn't teach me anything for my final project, I don't understand any of the CAD software I need to use.
I'm doing post-grad shit with undergrad knowledge/experience and I'm fucking panicking because I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
Back home, my dad caught Corona and won't stop wandering around the house.
My mom has a long-term lung condition and might've caught it from him.
Everyones getting tested and I'm hoping to god no one dies.

Everything's falling to shit and I'm having a fucking panic attack.

>>4977107
Eternal summer

>>4979333
I can pitch $200 - $500 for each commission, my problem is the market, there's not enough people who's into what I'm into. Thanks for the tip, I'll start collecting refs from the depth of intrwebs.

>>4979339
Bro haven't you heard, corona is a hoax? Lower mortality rate than the flu. Any blogs or indications of long term health effects like permanent lung and brain damage are only anecdotal, we have no concrete data on it so we should presume it's not that big a deal, so don't worry.

You could've made a comic better than black clover. Coward.

I'm glad I decided to stall going back to work as it's giving me some time to reflect on how to go about drawing. My initial fear was just being out of work for too long and unable to find anything new but I'm sure God will provide when the time comes.

>>4977482
This board can’t handle /int/ level artists. Begs get shit on due to superiority complexes and pros get shit on due to jealously. Those in the middle usually get ignored because it takes earnest work/a good eye/actual knowledge to pick out what’s wrong with their piece and how to correctly improve it. Take it as a sign that you’ve outgrown this place and should go elsewhere for serious crits.

>>4979483
reliance on crits for troubleshooting sounds like a strongly /beg/ trait to me.

>Take it as a sign that you’ve outgrown this place and should go elsewhere for serious crits.

There really isn't another place to go. If there was this place would be nearly dead. /ic/ is more lurker heavy than those who actively engage in posting.

>>4976539
Can relate
Feel like I'm going nowhere in life

>>4975342
You have more to gain from multiple people being succesful around you than being alone in comfort, on all levels

>>4979483
>This board can’t handle /int/ level artists
this is a /beg/ thread
if you're /int/ just go post in the other threads. whats so hard to understand

>>4979526
>>4979483
I have rarely seen any actual "crit" or comment on this board in years.
It has nothing to do with skills or how hard to pick apart your piece is, or how "jealous" people are of it. The reason why you get a comment is much simpler and it's all about how easy it is to spout a meme on it.
A /beg/ making a massive fuckup is easy to reply to with a meme.
Someone who makes porn can be replied to with a meme.
Someone who copycats Ruan Jia, you can reply to with a meme.
It's literally all about if your piece can be replied to with a canned answer or not, it doesn't matter if the reply is positive or negative.
It has nothing to do with WHAT there is to say, it's all about how easily it gets that flatlining NPC brain to type something that is already in their phrasebook.

>>4979743
You’re being dishonest or posting from an alternative timeline that is somehow converging with mine. I see crits here regularly.

And as always, be the change that you want to see. If you crit then others will start doing so again. A few years ago all the people who did redlines got scared off by shitposters. So that’s why you see a lack of proper drawovers. But critique still exists even if it is empty praise or “something is off, needs more proko”, etc.

>>4979761
>be the change that you want to see
I don't want to help anybody in this community.

>>4979743
loomis test hard round ligabooba

>>4979773

Well that's probably because you're in a position of being incapable of providing good critique the first place. I'm sure you'd love the (you)s you'd get from redlines--anyone would.

>>4979359
>hoax
I personally know three people who were killed by it. This might frustrate you but it's a real thing worth tackling.

Go fuck yourself, I feel like shit now

>>4979788

You know people? I'm surprised.

>>4979788
it doesn't change the fact that he's a retard with unwarranted smugness, but that was sarcasm anon.

I can't take it anymore,is there some courses out there to help absolute beg like me to get started with digital?
Learning fundies on my own is already hard as fuck but If in addition to that I have to learn a new medium I pretty much NGMI...

>>4979793
Anon KNEW people, get it right.

>>4979812
ctrl paint

>>4976660
>>4976648
Well seeing how you both think there's an issue, surely there's a market for quality artwork.
The problem is that the internet is not allowing contemplation and a phone screen is a poor way of getting the visual goodness properly.

So you either have to make a platform that insists upon contemplative looking (a museum like institution) or move your work out of the hamster wheel. You're lamenting people not taking your art seriously in a place for bite-sized feel-good content, when in reality you should engage the other facet of peoples perception.

>>4979904
You are talking as if people still went outside their hamster wheel. Everything revolves around the bite-sized content now. Maybe years ago people would find your personal site and then follow you on social media, now it's the other way around. Way too many people are concentrated on a handful of websites that don't even promote "browsing" but try instead to fit you into a samey stream of trending content, and the users themselves seem to love it.
Websites strictly related to "art" are just full of porn and fanart of the new thing. Even places with relatively higher quality become overrun as long as they became more of a public facing venture, so honestly as of late I have resigned that this is really all that people are interested in.
Can you point me to "quality artwork" that found a place in year 2020's market?

>>4975342
me too, I hate myself for it.

other day I discovered that an old friend from school was not doing as well (money wise) as I though he was, that made me so happy. so fucking pathetic.

I forgot the names of people I was acquainted with for so long that I had to pause for a long time to jog my memory. Jesus Christ.

Just read this very informative post that explained how to grow a following on Instagram and it was pretty much every trick in the book. This guy was like "this feels very disgusting to do, I'd feel like a hack fraud" and this person was like nooooo you are just working to achieve your goals, don't let anybody tell you that you are bad for doing this, all this cheating and paying people for shoutouts is all honest good work!!!
what a nauseating conversation

>>4980196
"Sadly you can't automate follow/unfollow anymore, Instagram cracked down on it"
"Just look at pewdiepie, he really studied what people wanted, so he found the right mix of gaming and reaction videos"
people are this now and I can't cope with it

>>4976623
Same anon except I'm overworked with my studies. I feel like I'm stagnant with my art and have no idea how to improve my painting and composition. I thought taking a break and picking up something else (learned texture art in the meantime) would help but theres no drive at all for even small doodles now.

This is my last year of college and then ill have my degree to be an art teacher. Sounds fun, however due to the current right wing leaders in my country more art courses are being erased from middle schools. Im looking at a bleak future on the job market while also tackling a hernia together with the aftermath of covid. Idk how long i'll be able to remain optimistic so ill just keep studying in the hope that things will turn out alright.

>>4979339
>My mom has a long-term lung condition

Is it TB? TB is curable. Your dad really should just be in his room, with one of those baby monitors or a walkie-talkie in case he needs stuff.
As for your CAD stuff, does your college/uni have a tutor or tutorial resources on hand for the stuff you dont understand? You should be able to ask your instructor or the staff in the department for whatever you need.
My college had a "labratory" for math with tutors and spare computers for people who needed one-on-one help. Maybe your school has something similar.
Try to stay calm, man. It'll work out.

>>4979364

Youre gonna make it , anon!

I have no enemies anymore, IRL and online. I’m forgotten in both realms. And my slate is wiped clean. And I’m ascending in skill. A free man, finally.

I feel so horny often due to not masturbating this month, it's a meme but I'd also like to train myself for more discipline. I did all of inktober consistently and now I'd like to resist nutting. When I feel this way my motivation to draw is higher but I also get distracted easier. How conflicting

>>4980422
not nutting for an entire month is unhealthy

>>4980425
How so?

>>4980425
it's also impossible thanks to nocturnal emissions.

>>4980425
Post nose

i'm stagnating. i don't know how to imrprove. my "art" is hot fucking garbage and it's all i have left to live a "life".
should have offed myself when i had the chance

>>4980425
Nah.

>>4980508
kek

>have art ability of a retarded 7 year old
>want to be good and draw cool stuff for fun
>play video games instead of practicing like a faggot

I deserve to suck.

>>4980568
same, except the game, cant even afford them

>>4980425
t.cumbrain

God, why am I so fucking worthless. How did I go from a smart, focused, and moral teen to a fat, stupid, morally-ambiguous at best coomer.

>>4977488
retweet your old art so that your new followers can see it

>>4980629
Shit, should have done that during the explosion, but I will see what I can still do. Thanks.

High level artists are starting to follow me back when I follow them. Kinda nervous about posting now.

>>4980754
To me it's only happens with lolicon artists. Funny isn't it

>>4977488
Seems like Twitter is a game of who you know and gambling if they retweet you in hopes it snowballs. At least in my experience.

>>4975336
I'm really just tired of having a target demographic that fails to notice me but notices artists who do the exact same thing as me, sometimes they're definitely better but sometimes they're definitely worse, regardless of which of the two it is, they get thousands of followers either way, whereas I don't even have 300 yet. It's so demotivating.

>>4980754
>>4980998
Having social anxiety from people you've never really met
The absolute state.

>>4981937
Not them but anxiety isn't exactly rational and you can't just make it go away.
>>4980754
Zone followed me once.

>>4978707
This is your pharmacy anon calling to inform you that your prescription of Copium is ready for pick up.

I was just about to buy a 4 pack of pens. This isn't a vent. I just thought the total cost was pretty funny.

>promo thread
>look at posts
>lol i’ll fucking mog these assholes
>no likes
>better artist than me only got one
>shitters get 15-30
Is it because it was a stealth furry promo thread? Or am I dunning Kruegering?

>>4982176
Your art just may not be appealing

>>4982186
True, I hope I can cultivate it somehow if that’s the case.

excuse my newfaggotry i dont know how this site works

anyway
>have friend
>give them like three paragraphs of advice on money because they have money trouble
>ffw to yesterday
"i only have $300 saved up"
>where'd the rest of it go
"i spent it on food and bills only, i promise!"
>huh, okay
>ffw to today
>friend tells me they spent their last $300 on a ps5 because they decided they deserved it
>now complaining about how they can't afford a visit to the doctor
how do you give up on somebody you care about?

>>4979931
There's three galleries on my street that sell on the regular and i follow a big number of mature clasically painting artists that sell actual artwork, not ahitty "draw me in a disney style" commisions or fan-art.
Maybe you need a bigger audience, maybe you need an audience outside of the internet. When was the last time you've inquired about setting up your own exhibition?

>>4982229
/r9k/ is two blocks down

>>4975336
>day 7 of nofap
>can draw with my eyes closed, straight up tracing from my imagination

Is it weird to be on social media but not really interact with other people? I post art, have almost 3k followers , my art gets RT and likes but no one really replies to me or vice versa. I mostly post in one niche and it seems like everyone is part of the fandom and having a great time... then there’s just me on the outside
At the same time, I don’t know if I’m better off this way, just drawing and posting whenever, getting my likes and RTs. The niche I like has a fuckton of drama and shit on the Western side, Japanese artists don’t seem to engage them either

>>4982382
Imagine using Twitter to just post art and never say anything. You're no better than the repost accounts.

No on crits my shit and it's frustrating. I give some nice crits. Fucking scratch back /ic. damn

>>4982396
I occasionally post other stuff but the majority is art. I reply to questions as well but you’re right I don’t really engage too much

>>4982382
>>4982415
Ignore that anon, you're better than everyone who spams the timeline with drama and food posts. Do RT art you like and keep responding to replies from time to time but there's no need to spend tons of time interacting or spamming everyone's feeds. Well, apparently it boosts you in the algorithm so if you want more views you should make more posts.

>>4982423
>you're better than everyone who spams the timeline with drama and food posts.

That's the purpose of twitter. But you can use it as a tryhard platform because you see 1 random nip doing it.

>>4982382
most people don't give a shit about you since your shit art has nothing to say and its really for no one
you're just making pretty pictures for yourself

Failed nofap after 5 days. Coom 5 times today. Eat too much steak. Stomach hurts. Drink pepto. Take 3 shits. Coom 6 times. Watch Kung fu movie . Live through the collapse of western democracy. The government and the media and the military are trying to tell us aliens have visited us. Yea no let's just draw anime.

was having fun drawing until I came to /ic/, everyone seems to want to just make it and live throught their art or whatever, I just picked this up as a hobby with the only goal of being able to draw cute anime girls the way I want.

its hard to keep drawing

most days i just watch current events or listen to music and mindlessly message acquaintances
barely managed an hour of drawing after sitting in front of my computer all day
this depressive slump's been going on for too long and all i can think back on the last month is regret for not putting more time into art

>>4982534
>looking at news
>messaging people too often
Fren thats why many people are unhappy. They're not pursuing things they want, they're getting caught up in the internet too much because of how accessible it is. Recently i started taking breaks from all messaging for a week at a time, it really freed up my time. I admit looking at this site eats up some time still but its better than constant messaging and posting here

>>4982537
you're probably right.

its something thats a lot easier said than done
i tried to take a 3 hour break the other day from the internet, tried to draw in the kitchen without computer or phone
mostly just ended up reflecting on life and stared at the wall
at least messaging people i feel somewhat involved and being notice gives me some temporary feeling that i keep clinging on to

>>4979299
Kek

>>4982534
Give up faggot.

I did it, /ic/. I completed 7 pages worth of anatomy notes from my 3rd week of class.
I think I'm gonna make it.
I think were all gonna make it..!

>>4975719
Why are /pol/cels so violent? I remember when the guy shot up the Jews in California he said the he only browsed /pol/ for a year before he decided to do the shooting

>>4982703
I've only been browsing pol since the 3rd and I'm already feeling dizzy. I think I need to block 4chan entirely

>>4975336
Strange question. I've gotten to a point where I've been drawing for about 2 years with.. not a lot of improvement. And I'm having a really bad issue with anger when it comes to art. I've destroyed sketchbooks, written indecipherable rants , etc. I don't think I've actually completed a piece in over a year and a half. This isn't something I plan to do professionally. I have a whole other degree that makes me plenty of money. I just want to have fun with this but it makes me so insanely angry that I can barely think straight unless my Gf (an actual artist) puts a sketchbook in front of me after I've been drinking. Should I keep going? Or just.. Drop it?

>>4982619
LETS GOOOOOOO

Just turned 25. I miss 5 years ago when I visited here a lot and felt the world was my oyster, finally feeling like I knew where to start and gathering tutorials, guides, references, found what I thought was the optimal road map to get somewhere. Only for it to all be for nothing because I can never get into a routine that lasts long enough. I'm just as lost as ever and don't know why I keep coming back.

>be me
>send email to my favorite bands for possible album cover work
> 12 out of 15 replied saying my work is great and complimented me
> not a single one hired me
I want to die. Compliments used to be great, but now I need someone who pays money.

>>4982423
>>4982415
>>4982396
>>4982382
>>4982427
>this is how you have to run your free entertainment service for ME ME ME ME ME

I would like to start learning to draw, it would be good to be able to make some money out of making fancy pictures and to be honest I had so many ideas I wanted to draw. But I have no confidence to do anything that I am not forced to do. I have zero self control and either rot at my unpaid job or just put as much noise as possible to pass the time I have because even my privacy is limited.

I wish I could be 20 or younger again. I would sell my soul to go back in time and change things.

Are there any artists who started art purely from when they were like mid 20s+? I mean, are there any GOOD ones? It feels like every single good artist I've ever seen has been doing it since they were a kid. I'm a renaissance man who taught himself writing, composing, learned programming at school, cooking, jogging, and more; and after about 1.5 years of drawing every day I'm still on a godawful deviantart kid level. This shit is harder than anything, it takes just as much if not more practice than writing does, but unlike writing it's not even remotely fun at all and everything is terrible. Has any other adult learner ever made it?

I recently had to take a break from everything for personal reasons despite having several commissions in my queue. I know not announcing it was dumb on my part, but what's done is done. Thing is though, this fellow artist, who should know what the hustle is like, got pissed at not having her art she only paid $15 for within 3 weeks and vagued the fuck out of me and then put up the adopt I made her for sale and dropped my twitter in the post, but made it so it wasn't a direct @, which feels super malicious. She said she felt like she got scammed, despite not attempting to reach out even a single time and it had only been 3 fucking weeks. I just offered her either the refund or an upgrade on her art (I'm offering everyone who's been waiting an upgrade or an extra art piece as an apology for my disappearance and the wait time, no matter how long they've been waiting or what they paid for) and I'm just waiting now. This person has BPD so I'm a little scared and if they lash out, I might make a beware about them. I know I'm at fault for my radio silence on social media, but I had a lot of personal garbage to deal with and they never even reached out before vagueing me.
On the bright side I didn't lose too many followers over my absence and I even got a ton of people I don't owe art to if I'm okay and where I am and ect.. We're all gonna make it.

>no reason to actually draw
>couldn't care less about money or social media numbers
>don't even really want it since it could be a chore i don't need
>don't want to pander to anyone
>play games all day
>draw some stupid shit maybe once a week
>slightly improve every time
Weird feel

>>4982919
Good question. Not much examples online.

>>4982919
If you pick up art in your 20s, it is most probably that you were actively drawing as a kid/teen.
Drawing is something develops itself through time+affinity for it+patience.
You better stick to one thing you can do decently and doesn't make you miserable if you fail sometimes at it.
Comparing your chances with other individuals is a mistake.

>people reposting and complementing my art gives me little to no reaction
>people insulting my art gets me quite mad
>feel a lot of envy when I see someone being happy and receiving complements
Man, my brain is a fucking mess.

>>4982919
Learning as an adult is not harder. Consuming information is ever so slightly more challenging than when you’re a child and your brain is like a sponge but the fact is that your directed focus and ability to self teach is exponentially better as an adult, that easily trumps an unfocused teens ability to learn marginally faster. Also though at the same time adults have more responsibility so it can be more challenging.

Assuming you haven’t gone full imageboardbrain and didn’t submit all your energy to being a wagecuck your 20s is the second best time to learn. If you spend 5 years doing anything you should be pretty good at it, 10 and you can be very good even if you are a slow learner. You could easily be a master by 40. You could be by 30 or less if you truly apply yourself. The question is how much do you want it and how much in your life will stand in the way. It’s one thing to study less because you have a family to provide for, but you certainly don’t want to look back and realise you spent your time and potential shitposting on 4chan and bitching on Twitter.

>>4983199
Yeah, don't be a chump like me and wait till 30.

>>4983146
Lmao who painted this?

Black noggers.

>>4982176
You deserve to be ignored with the intent to outshine everyone else, be humble.

>>4983205
Dunno, the image has been around for ages.

>>4983204
The real chump is the one who waits till 40, it’s very much all downhill from there. Or uphill should I say.

>>4982919
>>4983204
>>4983277
Unsung Heroes of Illustration
Check out that series, half the artists there started at 20+ and maybe a quarter at 35+.

Is it normal to admire and bask in your own piece after you've been working on it?

Like you think to yourself wow, I really made this piece of art

>>4983326
Gonna check that, thanks!

>>4983277
Yeah, I already feel bummed about missing doing the stuff I wanted to. This year my life ran into a brick wall, so I might try to use the reset to make it right.

>>4975336
I’ve been able to draw again since starting therapy. I still feel anxiety and break down a lot more than I used to, but at the very least I haven’t lost my one escape.
Anyone else dealing with mental health hurting their ability to draw? I’m not used to being like this.

>you will no longer be able to express your hate for the vile roastie and scheme ways of punishing them for roastiehood
>calling a spade a spade will get you arrested
Why even live

>>4983397
Don't shoot up a school, anon

Checked the news and feeling good today :)

>>4983397
I already dislike this guy. Typical "we're doing it for JUSTICE' before doing ugly shit. People should switch to privately owned servers and fully E2E encrypted protocols unless encryption is outlawed in the US. Public internet will be under lock and key soon and there will be no way to connect afterwards.
>>4983329
I kissed a drawing of mine on the lips once
no regrets

>>4983428
Only if it’s a women’s school ;)

I draw cute anime girls to cope with my AGP.

Reminder not to be such a little bitch.

>>4983397
>online sexual harassment
>Violence against women
They mean porn.
Not the industrial porn, of course not.
And if you dare disagree with women you will be thrown in jail.
This is the future you americunts wished for.
Rejoice.

>>4983483
More coombucks for me desu, but I feel like trump might be able to overturn it legally so long as (((they))) don’t interfere, I don’t believe for a second the vote wasn’t rigged

>>4983329
Of course and it is important to do that every so often, especially when you're only comparing it to your own self-improvement. If you truly have the drive for it, you'll always be on a quest to achieve that feeling consistently and minimize errors.

>>4983483
Nah they will never touch porn. Porn brings too much money to everyone involved.
And liberals love porn a whole lot more than conservatives.

>>4983485
no, you making porn is bad and sexual harassment. Big studios and companies are a-ok.
Yeah, vote has been rigged, there is no debate about that.
>>4983572
But they will.
In China you can't watch porn.
If the "left" wins, they're gonna sell out to china.
Better start learning chinese and stop drawing them womynz or off to gulag with you.
Ah, and rioting or protesting or saying anything that goes against what the government says is punishable by death.
Have fun.

>>4983577
>vote has been rigged, there is no debate about that.
HAHAHAH, take your meds, trumpcel. Besides if something were to happen to porn in the U.S, then nothing of value would be lost.

>>4983577
What can I say, people have been using Facebook and Google on and on despite countless warnings about their intentions, I can only be happy that they and their offspring will end up living in a totalitarian regime sooner or later.
This has nothing to do with the election results anyway, it was bound to happen as it kept happening for the last 15 years.
Sadly the NPCs will always adjust much better than me, but hopefully I will not live long enough to see the worst of it.

>>4983579
Nice argument. Can you fuck off now?

>>4983583
What sickens me that they go such lengths to sell out their own country.
I mean, if that doesn't escalate to shootings since it's the gun loving american the i don't really know.
Problem is, America heavily affects the rest of the world.

>>4983587
>America heavily affects the rest of the world.
yeah and fuck America for that
seeing the whole West go to shit because of a bunch of illiterate retards taking horrible decisions is the most depressing shit
my only hope is that I'll be able to go offline and live the rest of my life in the countryside

>>4983596
Everything is corrupt, mate. Even elected officials in Europe are bought by and serve the industries.
Shit's real bad.
>I'll be able to go offline and live the rest of my life in the countryside
Me too, friend, me too.

I have no idea how to work with gesture drawing despite having 5 years of experience

>>4983623
>I have no idea how to work with gesture drawing despite having 5 years of experience
Then no, you don’t have 5 years of experience, you have 5 years of fucking around. Throw your ego, accept you don’t know shit and go back to the beginning before you spend another 5 years pretending you’ve got actual experience. Watch courses without sitting thinking “huh this is stupid beginner stuff “. If you already knew it you wouldn’t be having problems

>>4983694
good advice

>>4983694
Bro I'm quite popular and good artist, I just draw from imagination. I have no idea what "practice drawing" means tho

>read another coloring book
>it still doesnt help me digitally color or help with brushes or gradients or any of the digital doohickeys and techniques

I should just go watch some of the 16 year olds on youtube, they're probably actually genuinely better

>>4983842
>coloring book
Ngmi. Buy painting books and paint.

i haven't drawn anything worth sharing in 10 months. the only times in the past 5 years where i've been prolific with making good art is when i've been in love with someone and want to impress them. I've got a huge load of other reasons to make things, i've got a large following, the ability to make money from my drawings, but i just can't bring myself to do it without the motivation of being in love.

as you could guess, i broke up with my ex around 10 months ago, i've mostly just been alone in my room living the neet life. I wish i could find someone to be interested in just so i can use that spark.

>>4983397
>>4983483
>>4983577
You all can get the gulag.

Also >>4983577 you're a retard. China pirates a shitton of porn, has a not-so underground amateur porn industry, and sponsors more titty video games than the west ever will.

>>4984212
You matter anon

>>4983714
The best artists are humble

>>4983714
You're probably going to stagnate really hard if you don't go back and learn the fundamentals.

I get annoyed to be grouped with the faggy art community online. They’re all apart of such a negative hivemind seeking for the next problematic thing to cancel. I have characters who are heavily flawed and horrible people. I get worried that by sharing these characters I’ll end up getting witch hunted for some faggot saying I’m offending them by my “misrepresentation” but I’m not trying to represent anyone. I write these stories based off of my own experiences in life and nobody is as black and white as the art community likes to think.

I swear a lot of artists are nothing but fucking takers only interested in themselves

>>4984393
welcome to the real world.

>have someone who cares about my drawings
>my art isnt as good as he think it is
I dont want live through the pain when he realizes how shit my drawings really are and forgets about me and my doodles. I have to shoo him away before it happens.

>been drawing for like a year
>for reasons that are too autistic to get into I only did cursory research on how to git gud
>didn't read the stick properly
>do the "chicken scratch" thing
>looked at it a few days ago and had no idea that is was bad
>trying to unlearn it
>its literally fucking impossible
>no matter how careful I try to be or how much I think about the line it's always wrong, just have to undo and redo a million times until I get it, even with construction
W H Y
JUST WHEN I THOUGHT THIS FUCKING DISCIPLINE COULDN'T GET ANY MORE PAINFUL

My friend is a huge faggot.

>>4984312
Just don't give a fuck man.
I'm just like you. I stopped caring about what they thought and don't even pay attention to them. I don't care if they think my shit is problematic, I love what I'm doing and that's all that matters.

>>4984668
You're not supposed to take the sticky as gospel.
Its real purpose is to point you into directions if you're a complete beginner.
Blindly following anything without putting in the work yourself and without experimenting yourself, will never yield good results.
Also
>he really expects major gains after just one year
Take a break, step back, disassociate from your work, analyze your work, think about how to improve,practice what you think you lack in, take your time and most importantly; don't force yourself to draw if you don't wanna.

Now that'll be 13.99$+tax.

What do you do when a commissioner talks shit about you for the amount of time you were taking without even trying to contact you to check up first, calling you a scammer and saying you give artists a bad name, and then after you contact them asking if they would like a refund or extra art as compensation for the long wait time, they ghost you? I wasn't even an asshole about confronting them, I apologized and offered them options for proceeding. I think I might give them 48 hours notice after I finish all the commissions in my queue about an impending auto refund if they don't respond. I'm not going to give them legitimate grounds to call me a scammer.

>>4984668
I unlearned chicken scratch with simple anatomy practice. I'd just draw legs or arms or hands or whatever until it became so natural that I only took one line to get it right.

Sometimes I get really lonely. After a day of drinking and wailing I produce a single drawing and post in on an imageboard, in a thread where other people post their drawings. Then, for a while, it's not so bad.

I'm so fucking tired of politics and the people who pretend to fucking care about it. I'm just trying to learn to draw well enough I can make some nice images and get rid of this hollow feeling inside me but that can't be more important than a battle between 2 old men watching their votes be counted.

I dont get twitter. I see artist spam my feed with random shit they like right now or want to do, they get 0 replys but when I reply I get no reaction. Are they fine with just spamming feeds with their stuff but never want to talk with others about the same interests? Why tweet then?

>>4985111
My uncle used to say that one of the secret of happiness is not to watch the news. I'm starting to understand why

>>4975336
I'm such a friendless talentless hack. No one wants to talk to me about shared interests because I have no personality. And I can't make up for my lack personality with drawing, because I have no art skills. It'd be better if I just kms. Maybe then I'd stop being so lonely.

>>4985111
>I'm just trying to learn to draw well enough I can make some nice images and get rid of this hollow feeling inside me
You can’t draw your way out of being a pussy

>I want to make dumb lolrandumb shit, but I also want to make something with substance that won't make people angry for having wasted time on it, but I also want to do dumb shit and just bring out whatever retarded ideas pop into my mind, but
repeat for years and never finish anything

>broke 90 useless threads in the catalog
can we make it to 100?

>>4985413
>shared interests
Why don't you share your interest with me, hollow one?

>>4975336
I'm worried, i havent been drawing as consistently lately and now i feel like im shit at art. i dont just wanna get back in the groove of things, i also want to surpass myself and improve upon where i had left off. i just wish i could have some guidance and pointers or someone to help me/encourage me. i can post examples of my work if anybody is interested

I miss the cringe threads, too bad they've become impossible due to snowflake spergouts

>>4985129
Lots of artists are introverts, They wanted to share their thoughts but they are scared of participating in a conversation

Am I doomed to NGMI if I can't spend some money in online courses or ateliers?
I Feel like a lot of artist have huge gains thanks to that.
Meanwhile my only way to share my work for critiques and learn are some discord servers,/ic/ and a random forum.I often cet ignored.

>>4985413
people will tell you that you should ask someone else about their interest but they never show interest back

>>4985625
nah, that's just lame, you can get everything for free
also, /beg/ and open discord art servers are useless, because you may stuck in there for eternity with no improvement at all - just go grab a cup of coffee, follow artists that you like on twitter and eventually you'll improve
sketch here, study there, boom - you're an awesome artist

Going through some real shit in 2020:
>Diagnosed with eye disease and have to wear $3000 contacts
>Had all teeth pulled, jawbone filed down and fitted with dentures
>Suddenly developed pinched nerve in the base of my spine last week which requires meds, 6 weeks of physical therapy, and possibly surgery
Nobody knows all this except my brother and sister. Outwardly I look totally normal and healthy except I walk a bit slowly and carefully. I just do what needs to be done to get better but the back pain is the worst bitch. Sitting hurts, laying down hurts, bending forward is impossible and standing is okay until when it’s not. Right now I’m just trying to take things one day at a time. I know things will get better with time and I can’t let it get me down but I just needed to get it off my chest somewhere.

I don't think anything has been more destructive to myself and my self worth as much as being restrained and deemed crazy. Not having any power, not being taken seriously with anything you say.

I used to feel so free drawing, so in control, now the supportive environment is gone.

I've fucked up my life and now I'll never escape the stigma and the label.

All i have are constant reminders and trust me, i wish they just cut my hands off so i wouldn't at least pretend i have the freedom to create.

my minds haunted by that moment, i never felt so powerless in my entire life.

Theres a fucking mosquito under my table biting my thighs for the last 6 hours and I can't catch him

>>4985783
I'm so sorry anon

>design witch outfit for a one time piece of drawing for a friend's OC
>delivered and he's happy
>few days later on twitter feed appears a somewhat similar part of the design
>on a character I didn't even knew existed
>from FUCKIN GAYSHIN IMPACT
holy shit we're both out of the loop when it comes to popular games, but universe you can't do this shit to me I'M SO MAD because either way if I tell him or he discovers it, I'll end up looking like a liar and a fucking hack.

>>4985783
sorry to hear that anon, i hope everthing gets better for you

>trying to learn new style
>obviously shit at it
>frustration builds
>can't try again because it's time to go to bed
>40-hour grind starts anew tomorrow

>>4975336
How can you stop getting incredibly jealous to the point you become bitter and lash out at anonymous basket weavers? It wasn't like this before, used to aspire and strive to become like the one that captivates you through their appeal and skill but now it infuriates. Perhaps patience is running out after years of investing time without any success and for every one you believe is decent there are a hundred failures that trail behind the piece before you hate it the next time you see it throwing you back into being a complete dick at the next basket weaver you see. I am so tired.

>>4975336
Seeing this gave me hope, I almost gave up on art recently after seeing zero progress in two years. My last effort is for Istebrak to help me finally see some gains...I just want to get my foot in the door so I don't feel like I'm wasting time when drawing because everything I make turns out ugly.
Oh btw, this photo was from mid-August to the beginning of October

>Get cool fanart from friend
>Attached with it is also a passive aggressive comment literally for no reason

Ok, thanks I like your gift... I guess.

>>4986145
>give friend fanart
>they immediately tell me they wish it looked better
i'm trying my best okay

>>4986039
This isn’t me btw, I’m just mirin those gains

>>4975336
>OP being a massive cuck I see... -.-
>>4986025 Agreed.
I'm not just tired... I'm EXTREMLY drained &exhausted.

I've finally gotten back into the rhythm of drawing a lot again, like 5-6 hours a day even. Problem is that I don't have as much time for doing things with friends now, and I really miss one of them. Does this happen to anyone else?

>>4986039
Very nicely done, keep up the good work
>>4986025
There's no point to it. Jealousy doesn't help you or anyone else, channel your anger if you can't hold it back into determination.

>>4985783
That's awfull. I wish you ONLY the best and a healthy recovery for YOU and your close ones.

>>4986204
>Oh no,YOU dont!

>>4985916
Turn on a fan. It will fucked their biology sensor and will forced them to leave the area

>>4975336
some acquaintance of mine from other internet circles keeps commenting on everything. i post on twitter

normally it'd be fine but he asks for me to provide explanations to every joke or reference i make in addition to commenting on every piece of art I put out with inane comments or just writing that he doesn't like it or that something "looks weird". I blocked him but then he got mad at me and i had to explain it away. He doesn't draw and doesn't give critique either btw. he's just driving off the coomers i'm trying to gather. i fear they wont like or rt after seeing his post because he will sour other peoples opinions.

i've just started deleting things after he comments on them. I got so frustrated, i deleted my whole library of posts. i'm at such a fragile stage when it comes to confidence in my art. it didn't use to be this way but i only picked drawing back up about two years ago after getting my degree and since then i've trying to change programs and ways of doing things (get better, change with the times etc). I was really getting somewhere on tumblr drawing porn but after trying to move to twitter the lack of engagement has gotten me depressed.

>>4985413
mood anon

>>4986240
i realize it's counter productive to build an audience when i keep deleting everything but i'm trying to step away from drawing mlp because it's just full of autists (like, super autists that are waaay too invested in a show that not only has ended but most of the "fandom" stopped caring/left in 2013) and cheap assholes that don't want to pay more than $60 for anything.

I mostly draw by commission but haven't had much success this year cause of the ronas and I don't have that much impressive furry/human stuff that's completed to the level of the pony garbage in my gallery.

needless to say my twitter hasn't been growing due to the lack of posting and i don't have much of a back catalogue to post as those comm'd pieces took 1-2 months to complete (mostly due to communication delay +alt versions)

drawing nsfw ychs as the spark of these comms killed my drive to make art (and sex drive somehow). just having to churn out more and more coom with it having to have every single orifice gaped, spread, and dripping just to get a bid from these coomers was so mentally exhausting. the pose needing to be unique every time only to put it on an auction site and be outshone by someone that can get $400 on a drawing of a generic pose without so much as a nipple poking through the cloth.

i also would like to complain about twitter and social media in general. my drive for art in the past relied so much out of my own enjoyment of rendering textures but with display sizes and compression, it all gets lost and the most appealing parts go unnoticed.

sorry for rambling so much in these posts i've made. i only have my partner to talk to about these things as i tend to alienate myself from others and don't expose the nature of what i draw.

>>4986240
Get off social media right fuckin now. It's eating away at your sanity

I feel odd clicking on the "teen" tag to find coomer porn. I end up too distracted by the action of shifting through pictures to find attractive on. I know it should matter for references, but I don't want to stare at the faces. I feel bad for the teen girls, I'll never know what struggles they face to turn to such a life. I feel bad for them to be so young and wonder if they don't regret it.
Duck man maybe drawing coomer shit would be easier if I had a sexuality.

>On social security because of booty burger
>Graduated this year with a certificate
>Have to be careful with what job I get
>Got to do this stupid dance where I get a job that pays, but doesn't pay too much
>If I get paid too much, I lose my social security
>Parents tell me, mom would also lose hers because she's my "caretaker"
>Can't really find the work I studied for because it's all full-time
>Have to turn down job offer after job offer
>I'm basically a janitor that works one day a week and gets $20 an hour
>It's nice and all, but I think it might short-term
>I feel I might get let go in a few months at best
>The foreseeable future is just a haze

>>4986274
If you're okay with MLP, then you're okay with furries, right? Find a fetish you can kinda vibe with and get into it, then start making bank off furry coomers.

I want to delete my twitter. I hate the website so much and I guess it doesnt matter if I post there or not when I only have 40 followers.

>>4985916
The mosquitos that suck your blood are all female. They need your blood to lay eggs. Males feed on nectar.

>>4985783
I'm so sorry anon

Never really recovered after the only people that loved me died 6 years ago. All the hobbies I used to love like drawing and vidya does not give me any emotion. Tried getting new hobbies but everything is expensive and I can’t exert myself because of 14 hour workdays. So I just go back to drawing wondering when why I’m even doing this.

>>4986039
literally just put more time into a drawing and you'll see those "gains".

>30 minute request drawing done for /v/ gets more likes than commission I was paid for and worked for at least 6-7 hours on

>>4986742
if the commissioner had good ideas they wouldn't have had to pay someone to make them real

>>4986413

I feel a lot more comfy not pandering to twatter and just posting in my own little corner. I could easily get hundreds of followers if I gave a shit, but I don't because getting good is more important to me than posting work in a sea of highly skilled asians who get 100 likes in 1 minute.

i was gonna make a thread on how we should replace the blue and cyan with the logical middle point "Aqua" because it can be read as both blue and cyan

but imma shitpost here instead

>>4987732

color theory could be taught this way but that'd be too elegant 4 u mr crabs huh

>>4987757

i could do an old masters course on pixel perfect presentation of a png product down to

the essential & FREE program to use.

GraphicsGale

is a nipponese program that has a setting

all frames > color depth > so many algorithms for 256 colors you can actually microsize your work and give it that pixel perfect vibe

https://graphicsgale.com/us/

remember its fucking free

and 4chans servers and the world will probably thank you for turning that garbage you post into something aesthetic

this is an example of a TYPE B 256

note the palette used in the top right corner

>>4987765

if you have a new mac firmware
download crossover (paidware, free trial expires after many days sucks, but imma buy when it it expires)

https://www.codeweavers.com/crossover

if old firmware use https://www.winehq.org/ which is free honestly i used to use this but i upgraded to the latest firmware and im an adult so i pay for software kek

>>4987773

honestly peoples posts are so mactarded

it hurts

you want a vaporwave????????

here ya go. lets make the future less messy

REMEMBER TO SAVE AS JPG 70 QUALITY

otherwise this is all kaboot .

do you get it yet? I'm literally telling you how to get max resz and lo fi cool points in file size that i have yet seen be beaten?? ok kool kids klub?

>>4987787

damns given: 27,244

>>4987794

sorry i gotta explain how to mac

then ill delve into the actual program

>>4987801