/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4979137
First for 4:3

Obligatory webm.

Never buy XP-Pen or Huion tablets.

>>4979137
>>4979148
>>4979149
You've been spamming the threads since forever now. No one wants to listen to you, schizo. I won't use irony. Just fuck off.

>>4979137
Is the iPad too small for drawing work? I see so e people saying 16" is too small, but iPads are even smaller

>>4979153
Nope it’s fine

>>4979150
Piss off moron. You were warned by the mod not to make early threads and you did anyway.

You kept bumping the last one because you desperately wanted to make a new one to shill your garbage.

>>4979153
size is a pretty clear compromise of buying an iPad, but it really depends on what's most important to you. obviously a giant work surface is amazing but do you want to take it anywhere?

>>4979156
But you can't draw that efficiently with your shoulder?

And of course, the obligatory humiliation in pic related if any janny deigns to look at these threads. Don't feed his mental illness.
>>4979137
>>4979148
>>4979149

Yikes.

>>4979161
>>4979150
But you're a Chinese shill so it doesn't matter.

Is Artisul a trustworthy brand?

>>4979137
Budget: $600
Location: USA
Type: Display
Size: any
Other info: just starting out, but don't think I can get used to non display
Previous equipment: A4 paper, fineliner 0.4

>>4979166
It's not chinese, so it's at least better than XP Pen.

This is all you will ever need.

>>4979173
BASED

>>4979137
Remember to report for spamming, guys. All you can do. Mods dont check for actual content, so this retards threads go on forever.

>>4979169
used ipad pro. cheap, easy and fun to use, will last until you inevitably decide you want another.

>>4979178
Why did you make your thread early?

>>4979179
10.5" seems small

>>4979181
Why has Chang Guy been spamming the same schizo shit for months on end?

>>>/qa/3600173

>>4979185
Why aren't you answering the question?

Why did you make an early thread? Try answering with an answer instead of a question.

Why is there so much internal war over a brand of digitizers?

>>4979191
It's all derived from a Chinese shill who insists his Chinese brands like XP pen and huion be recommended in the OP. He's particularly upset because the default OP here actually discourages them.

It's all about sales.

>>4979184
anything bigger in terms of display tablet is either going to break your budget or strip away a whole shitload of creature comforts. like people are saying here, the budget display tablets from XP-Pen and Huion are dumpster fires and i've yet to meet someone who was satisified with their purchase. if you're okay with navigating windows just to practice drawing, and don't mind sacrificing the portability, grab a used 1080p cintiq.

still, i've worked with some pretty big and expensive tablets and I will personally say that its still not as fun as being able to chill in bed with an iPad and paint on Procreate. but again, if something big is what's important to you, a used cintiq is gonna treat you the best.

>>4979191
>Why is there so much internal war over a brand of digitizers?
The internet attracts those who cannot deal with normal relationships. 4chan gets the worst of that demographic.

>4979189
>4979194
The mental illness shines through the screen. Anyone who is new to these threads, read a bit and form your own picture, and please don't feed 'Chang Guy' anymore than necessary.

>>4979198
what? i was answer a question: >>4979184

>>4979194
Do you draw on the glass surface or use a paperlike screen protector? I tried drawing on one at the electronics store and it feels off; it's particularly hard to draw straight lines on a slippery surface.

I heard paperlikes melt apple pencil nibs, and $50 for a sticker seems insane.

>>4979200
You've been spamming the same braindead talking points for over 7 months by now. This is insanity, clear and simpile.
It's not like I can argue a weirdo that's been spamming for 7 months out of doing what he's doing, but for fuck's sake jannies! Do any of them even read the threads?

>>4979203
its definitely a bit slippery on just the glass, but images are noticeably clearer without the haze, so i don't bother. i've probably learned to work around the slip at this point, regardless, and im a lazy bitch too so if i really need to draw a straight as fuck line i will just use the Procreate shortcut for that. if you're dead-set on learning digital illustration as traditionally as possible and don't want to use these shortcuts, grab the expensive sticker and some extra nibs. you'll only be going through them as fast as you would on a cintiq, anyway.

for me, all of these are worthwhile tradeoffs for the convenience of this device, though. you really gotta decide what's more important to you.

>>4979211
i literally just started posting here today lmao. i heard trumpsters on /b/ were getting upset so i came to watch the shitshow and i found this board. i can post a custom drawing here and on my twitter, if you like. any requests?

>>4979217
Don't mind him, he's just the resident Chinese shill. To him, anyone that thinks XP pen and Huion suck must be one person and his mortal enemy.

>>4979213
Thanks for the tips.

Just one note: I thought cintiqs didn't blow through nibs that quickly? Isn't the newer Intuos pro line the one that's notorious for destroying nibs?

>>4979219
holy shit that's special. i was ready to draw furry porn for them.

>>4979217
newfriend, get out while you still can. I am not joking. Never post again. Close the browser and go do something else. Heed my caution

>>4979221
well, i don't know honestly. im just speaking from my experience when i say that both my cintiq and my intuos pro chew through nibs pretty effectively. i think if you want any tooth, you're gonna be buying nibs, and you just gotta deal with that. at least you don't have to buy colored pencils lmao

>>4979153
it does seem weird if you only go by specs but the ui is designed to use the 13” very efficiently. The 16” rule spplies primarily to wcreen tablets connected to windows/mac os since the screen real estate has fatter menus to deal with.

>>4979137
I always forget to do this but thanks and keep up the good work! your efforts are not unnoticed.

>>4979223
my attention span is short. i dont see myself getting any more than like 2 days of entertainment out of this, and the shitheads will probably drive me back to my snowflake space sooner anyway. thanks tho!

>>4979221
I taped paper over my intuos and havent had to buy new nibs for over a year.

>>4979217
I would stay as far away from /dtg/ as possible. There's an insane faggot who is triggered by everything and everyone that mentions Chinese talets and there is also an insane faggot who is unironically probably shilling Chinese tablets. And these people might be the same person.

>>4979230
If only you knew how bad things really are

>>4979232
I have plastic over mine, it literally fixed my carpal tunnel and I also use my intuos pro as a mouse 24/7 and I've never had to replace a single nib.

>>4979232
this also works with a cintiq

>>4979219
You know what, Chang Guy? Yes, I admit it. I have been working as an undercover interrnet agent in an operation financed jointly between XP-Pen and Huion management. For the last 7 months I have tried to stir up the rumor that tablets other than Wacom are usable by artists, but your steadfast efforts to consistently maintain the same shaming exclamations have by all means overwhelmed me with my humble 8 hour work schedule. That webm has been the bane of my existence. Wacom and Huion have recently decided the enormous losses in keeping up this operation are no longer worth it. They can't even afford to keep up the NDA which is why I can be open about this.
I salute to you. You have utterly defeated me in these past 7 months and put a blemish on my record as a professional shill. In your honor, I will gladly denounce the Chinese Communist Party and toast that the world will learn of what happened in Tiananmen Square. We're like old friends now. It's been quite journey, hasn't it?

>>4979230
Sure sure me too. Me too. see you tomorrow bro

>>4979230
/ic/ is a terrible board filled with crabs, get out while you can

>>4979230
Nah, this thread's fine. For the most part it's a slow thread. Chinaman's trying to scare you away cause he sees you as one more obstacle in his job to shill china tablets. Feel free to pop in any time you're bored.

>>4979243

>>4979234
I hate that the mods haven't permanently banned these people. Multiple rule violations should be enough, especially with OT threads sitting out in the open as evidence.

>>4979234
That insane faggot calls dibs on all OPs and seems to be on alert all throughout the day. But jannies keep deleting other posts, of course. Wouldn't be surprised if he actually was a janny of some kind. He's been doing the same thing for at least 7 months on here.
>an insane faggot who is unironically probably shilling Chinese tablets
Literally who? Is this because the last thread had a couple reports of Huion working reasonably well? I found that a bit suspicious too. But as for me, I'm using a Deco Pro as my main drawing tablet and it works just fine.

Imagine arguing over if a Ticonderoga is superior to Arteza brand of pencils. I'm willing to bet the people who argue here has dust accumulating on their tablets from non-use.

I've been using my intuos draw over my ipad pro lately due to neck strain and pain. I've been wanting to upgrade to a cintiq 22 but I feel I'll run into the same problem that I do with the ipad. What can I do to fix this shit? Is there some magic drawing angle that I'm missing?

>>4979996
What you're missing is that screens are kind of pointless once you get used to screenless. Also, put simple paper on top of your tablet. Best "sheet" you can get.

>>4979624
But Dixons are better than Arteza.


Theres good and then there's unuseable.

Used Photoshop, made a quick stroke with a Deco Pro with angle jitter. Works just fine on all degrees.Touchpad needs software additions for pan and the rubbery "Express" keys could have a better feel to them. Also can't vouch for older XP Pen or Huion. Still, it's obviously just the same old schizo posting the same old webm -that he got from God knows where- and calling people Chinese shills -or THE ONE Chinese shill that keeps sabotaging him for 7 months straight- again and again.

Serious question: what is the point of buying a screen tablet? Why not just buy a regular tablet that can be used anywhere outside and do all sorts of things besides drawing? Alternatively, why not just buy a tablet without a screen and spend the difference on getting a nice high quality computer monitor that has a multitude of uses? It seems like such a redundant product. It surprises me people willingly spend over one thousand dollars on a screen art tablet.

>>4980445
Personal preferences

Is there any particular reason why 2nd Gen ipad pro is in the recommended list? I've noticed it's pretty cheap secondhand, but I'm worried about battery life of those.

Should I just buy ipad 8th gen? I dont care about the size that much.

>>4980379
You don't seem to have any pen tilt in your image at all. The easiest way to see it is to have a vertical line brush with a lot of spacing.

>>4980511
if you don't care about the size then, yeah, get the 8th gen. the 2nd gen is there because it's been the most affordable ipad pro option for awhile

Well everybody I got an iPad 8, any recommendations on a good a waterproof case that won’t interfere with drawing?

I have a giant ass ipad and an apple pencil. Any technical guide or tips on best practices with the pencil and what apps I should be using? I have an adobe account so I've been using fresco. I feel like I've been going about it all wrong. Please help!

Any recs on a cheap non-display tablet I can get that won't be total shit to work with?
I'm poor and /beg/, so I don't need something amazing. But I also don't want to unnecessarily inhibit my development in digital art by buying something unusable.

>>4980694
Most people use Procreate. Artstudio Pro is also good.
I like BoroCG''s videos if you are going for the digital paint look rather than lineart and such.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjY88IAacYs

Lots of free brushes and resources here >>4960496

>>4980516
Vanilla ipad doesn't have a bonded screen, which means there will be more parallax.
Also one of the main bonuses of any ipad is great aftermarket support. If the battery is fucked, you can just get a cheap replacement from a 3rd party repair shop. Again, this is why used iPads are good value.

>>4980709
used:
Intuos 3 medium or large
Intuos 4 medium or large
Intuos 5 pro medium 2013 (PTH651) or large (PTH851).
new:
XP-Pen Deco 01 V2
XP-PEN Deco Pro
Huion HS610
Huion H610PRO V2

>>4980734
>chinese shit at the bottom
nah

>>4980405
>4980812
If you read these threads, you probably already know. Ignore Chang Guy. Look for actual experiences, not recycled webms.

Deco Pro Medium (using simple paper as a "sheet", because it's awesome) is a pretty solid choice at this price range, especially if you don't want additional excruciating nib costs. But keep in mind that the digitizer sometimes won't work on startup and you will have to look for the cause. In fact, I was going to prove >>4980516
wrong, but Photoshop doesn't work right now for whatever reason. She should be a bit familiar with PCs to the extent that she can easily set up WinTab for whatever graphics program she uses, but that is usually fairly straightforward. All of this also goes for Wacom, sadly.

If you want a screen tablet, then you have to go much deeper into your pockets. Keep in mind that Wacom in particular skimp out on screen quality on lower end devices, and the $300 Wacom One, being the bottom of the barrel, has a pretty abysmal screen. Not that you can't draw on something like that, but it sure will be intrusive.

Standalone tablets (Apple, Samsung) are usually even more expensive and come with a lot of drawbacks, like limited functions and controls. Once you see how powerful Photoshop's brush settings are, it's hard to go back.

So, Deco Pro, or a cheap Wacom Intuos are my recommendation.
Reposted in the new thread for visibility.

>>4980835
No, you're very obviously a chinese shill dude.

>>4980849
If you're not the Chang Guy, get the fuck back to /b/. No one's talking about [current political election] and you don't even draw.

>>4980851
You can cry like a bitch all you like about irrelevant things nobody here mentioned, but you're still very clearly a chinese shill.

>4980853
>4979217
Just so we got that cleared up. I can't believe I am saying this, but I'm tired of the trolls and it makes 4chan actually kind of unusable, at least in a board where jannies don't give a fuck. Fucking hell.

Now as for this:
>>4980516
Used Krita as an emergency solution for pic related. Photoshop tablet support shit the bed overnight. Maybe it's because I use the "Russian" version. God I hate and love that program.

>>4980879
>still thinking your screencaps mean anything when a webm recording from outside the tablet proved you wrong
Yep, you're still an idiot alright :)

>>4980879
>>4980897
I mean I really doubt that the xp pen etc have tilt. For one thing, even most of the wacoms don't. For another thing, it's a really meme setting that I don't think I've ever used in any program ever simply because it NEVER BENDS IN A WAY THAT LOOKS NATURAL when I use it in Photoshop.

>>4980905
*
so it turns out that I never use tilt in Photoshop but I do use it in CSP because it's on by default. I also don't think it's in SAI either.

>>4980905
>I really doubt that XP Pen have tilt
That would be false advertisement. I can turn a brush 360° on a Deco Pro. What is there to "doubt"? And where and when the hell is that webm the schizo spams even from?

>>4980909
No idea but just because it's a webm, it doesn't mean that it can't be faked. And certain brush features in Photoshop are currently fucked such as dual brush, so its engine may be very unreliable in that regard.

Not getting out of bed for this shit. Good morning everyone. Don't @ me.

>>4980928
confirmed that it does work then

>>4980905
>wacoms don't have tilt

Oh, schizo. Almost missed you there.

what's the best glove? can I trim a latex glove?

a guy i know is selling his ipad pro 2018 for US$650, is it worth it or i can go lower? I'd still have to buy the pen etc

>>4981371
>iPad Pro 2nd Gen 12.9"
forgot more details, its a 512gb model 12.9" display

>>4981371
forgot more details, its a 512gb model 12.9" display

>>4981371
you can go lower IF you're the only one interested

>>4981395
hes been trying to sell for like a week and no responses, i know hes pretty stubborn tho ill try making an offer for 550 but i think hell stay firm on 650

>>4981315
latex makes u sweat and sticks to plastic, go fabric or better go lycra if you can

>>4981399
Day you’ve got 6 ready to go you need the extra for the pen. Then leave it at that, don’t bug just wait

>>4981429
aight thx anon,

I have an intuos draw medium that connects via bluetooth to my desktop. Is there an easy way to have it connect to a laptop and then swapping it back and forth between computers when I need to?

>>4981212
All the wacoms that aren't pros don't retard.

>>4981815
Get a bluetooth usb dongle and plug it to the device you want to use. Or use it wired on your desktop.

Wanna go under $700

Wacom 16 (2019)
Intuos Pro Medium or Large
and the very budget friendly CTL6100WLK0

Any place to get the classic wacom tablets?
Like the ones old animators used back in the early 2000s

>>4982365
Honestly just go pro medium

>>4982365
Ebay off of Wacoms store?
Thats the only place I would trust sadly, and only because its them.
>>4982057
Don't cherry pick points. >>4980905 said "all wacoms" so anon was right to correct him. Not all wavoms come with tilt, true, but the ones worth buying do, and you'd know that if you drew.

>>4982514
That's what I mean, you have to know your art habits to know what you're going to be buying.

All the non intuos pro/screen tablet wacoms don't have tilt support. And the new intuos pro surface eats fucking nibs alive if you don't have something over it. Screen tablets such as Cintiq, etc, can have their screens fucked. If you press hard enough, you can still end up with grooves/deeper scratch marks in the tablet.

The Chinese tablets are still ???? in quality relative to wacom (but it's probably way better than picking up a shitty tiny wacom tablets in any case if you have no money simply because of carpal tunnel) and are plagued with driver issues such as jitter. Screen tablets can have their screens fucked and colour accuracy is potentially an issue. An anon recently made an issue where they literally chipped parts of the tablet by dotting on it. Also -- parallax, as always, is a big issue for screen tablets.

iPads can be fucked if you're not constantly buying a new one after 3-5 years and you're gambling on app developers supporting it (it won't happen). You're relying on apps not taking one whole second to draw one stroke if you're trying to use it like a cintiq and there are fuckloads of apps that are subscription only. Plus, there are numerous reports of customers who got third party repairs getting blocked from getting any servicing done at apple stores and getting anything fixed/replaced is expensive as a fuck

>>4982529
Is the Galaxy Tab S6 Lite good? Just ordered it but can cancel. It's pretty cheap.

Any link to the intuos models that don't have the nib problems?

>>4982563
>Any link to the intuos models that don't have the nib problems?
The old ones (or you can get a screen covering for them I think)
>Is the Galaxy Tab S6 Lite good?
Idk to be honest

>>4982563
It's the best value cheap display tablet out there. Make sure you get all of Infinite Painter, Ibis Paint, clipstudio from the samsung store, autodesk sketchbook and superDisplay.

>>4982573
This reply said nothing.
If part of your reply is "idk" then don't reply to that part.

>>4982610
You are an ungrateful fucker, I hope you get your eyeballs stabbed out and your corpse is left for the crows to peck your genitals out.

>>4982610
Don't mind him, he's chinese. He wants people talking about Chinese tablets like Huion and XP Pen.
Notice the typical chinese spergout here: >>4982624

>>4982610
>>4982637
Samefagging schizo

>>4982610
The resident schizo /pol/tard is too busy falseflagging see >>4982637

>>4982637
Post your work.

>>4982624
>>4982637
>>4982647
>>4982648
Thanks shizoids

>>4982655
t. Chang

>>4982660
I'm the guy who ordered the tab S6 lite sure to it having the S pen shizo

>>4982648
Here is a general reminder that the same self-loathing mentally ill Chinaman has been visiting these threads for more than 7 months straight, screeching whenever someone mentions tablets other than Wacom, constantly spamming some weird webm we don't know the origin of, and, until recently, calling people "Chang".

Ok so i'm hesitating between the XP pen 15.6 pro ann the cintiq 16". What would you recommend guys ?

>>4982895
The XP Pen is chinese rubbish. See >>4979149

The Cintiq 16 at least has a high quality pen that won't give you wobbly lines, condom tapering or inconsistent tracking.

>>4982876
>>4982903
Whoops, I summoned him again. What a legend. Just sad that one schizo can hold up and confuse an entire general for months on end.

>>4982895
Don't buy cheap Wacoms. You will pay in screen tax. If you don't want to afford a proper Cintiq Pro, then go screenless or XP-Pen. Can't vouch for their screens (at least look for something laminated) but the Deco Pro works pretty well.

>>4982895
Remember this line in the OP:
>Also watch out, Chinese Companies are known to shill aggressively, even on 4chan.
Case in point, this Zhang right here: >>4982908
He's been crying non-stop for months, and keeps accusing anyone mocking him or XP-Pen of being his mortal enemy. It's pretty funny.

For the true redpill, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q2tCvdcLII

Chinese don't like it, but it's true. There's a reason no professional in the industry uses chinese tablets; it's because they're unreliable. Reliability is what matters.

OH GOD HE'S THE BARNEYFAG OF /IC/ HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>4982895
THE AVERAGE DRAWING ABILITY OF A TABLET REVIEWER LMAO HOLY FUCK IT'S JUST SCRIBBLES FUCKING HELL HAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK

>>4982956
What the fuck am I supposed to be looking at here.

>>4982987
Chinaman is trying to highlight something random in a desperate effort to prove the video's point is illegitimate.

>>4982987
A worthless waste of space of a tablet review
>>4982988
Post your work and let's see what you've made with your 3000 dollar tools

>ask 7 hours ago for the retard with the "tablet opinions" to post work
>still hasn't posted it
You know what I find completely baffling is the sheer amount of shit /beg/ tier who seem to know what the best equipment is when they can't even draw a single polished turd worth of art. Baffling. That must be what it's like to be suicidally bad at art.

>>4982995
What benefit is there in revealing work, only to be put on the Chinese blacklist for rightly criticizing chinese tablets?

You honestly don't deserve anything because you behave like a psychotic lunatic, Zhang.

>>4982999
A) I'm not even Chinese you schizoid mental lunatic
B) You seem to have awfully intense opinions about tablets for a shitter who CAN'T EVEN PUT TOGETHER A FUCKING STICKFIGURE LMAOOOOOOOO. Just post your work? Just let us see what a huge failure you are before you kill yourself. Just remember, when you kill yourself, no one will even remember when you're gone. Even a third world poo in the loo shitter can create better art than you can on their poo in the loo toilet paper

>>4982950
Aaron "Rotten" is the only shill he can even point to. He cuts broad swathes over anything that isn't Wacom and leaves out any detailed comparisons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOnt5mLeJ0E
In this video he makes fun of people using spathetti and metal nibs, while not even mentioning you can make your own out of plastic. When I confronted him about that, he said he does not care about the various materials people "ruin" their tablets with asked me if I even have time to draw with my "conspiracy theories" when I told him old Wacom nibs are literally just plastic filament cuts. Imagine believing Wacomium exists.
There's a reason this brainlet disabled his comment sections and is on a hard decline.

>>4982999
>>4983007
I almost admire your dedication keeping this weird crusade up for months. You're one of the more interesting lolcows on the internet. At this point I just want to see how this will end. Your move, "Zhang Guy".

>Still no artwork
Even a subsaharan african shitskin has more IQ than you

>>4983007
>A) I'm not even Chinese
Sure you are. No need to pretend you aren't while you're aggressively and desperate shilling chinese brand hardware. Learn to embrace your Chinese ancestors, Zhang. Have some national pride

>>4983011
>still no artwork
>just keeps deflecting
How about you prove that you aren't the Chinkshit shill? By posting your fucking art, which everyone on this board is making except you? Except you can't, can you? Because you're the chinkshit spy!

>4983013
He still believes there's one paid XP Pen / Huion employee stalking him for months... Jesus Christ, I know jannies are doing it for free, but can't they look at these threads for once?

Why don't you prove that you are white by posting your art or are you too busy digging up another video to prove that you can't draw?

Or do you perhaps draw worse than a twitter tranny and are considering suicide over the fact that you spent all the money you saved for food on a Cintiq or iPad? After all, Apple shills are 50% more likely to become part of the suicidal tranny pack, don't you know?

>>4983010
t. Chang

>>4983009
Wait, sorry, that was the wrong one. He's shilling a lot without substance. Wonder if he even got paid, otherwise this would be even more embarassing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ibp5Qk6geU

>>4983007
what are some good tablet brands

>>4983025
You're shilling a lot without proving that you actually draw which is the purpose of this board, you know? Do you know that every apple tranny nigger that I ever saw started wearing pink and transitioning without HRT?

>>4983026
>ching chong back to gaslighting with questions for himself after being ignored

>>4983029
Imagine unironically subscribing to the
#BLM Apple #DIVERSITY and #EQUALITY #metoo

>>4983025
Imagine being a homosexual Yang guy trying to get out of his mother's basement, huh?

>>4983026
Chang Guy: Wacom, tablets using Wacom EMR, and maybe Apple. STAY AWAY FROM ANYTHING CHINESE EVER BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL TAPERED WITH CONDOMS AND FLEXTAPE AND WE CAN'T ALLOW THE CCP TO SHILL!! WINNIE POOH TIANANMEN SQUARE FREE HONKONG LOOK AT MY WEBM!

Chang: Wacom are usually a solid choice except for the wear on the new nibs which are also harder to DIY than the old ones since they are a custom cut. XP Pen have gotten a lot better over time, and the Deco Pro is pretty much equal to the Intuos Pro at this point. You don't get rotation, but you also don't get insane nib wear and more than 10x nib prices, so it's a tradeoff I'd say. That's it for screenless.

The current lineup of XP Pen screens looks solid enough and are a budget alternative if you don't want to afford a Cintiq Pro. Better not buy Wacom screens below Cintiq Pro, the screen quality sucks. Current Cintiq Pros also have heating issues. Does not mean they are bad to use, but it's something you should keep in mind. The be-all-end-all top range for screens is still a Cintiq Pro.

I would stay away from Huion. They are not quite there in the drawing department, and they are still using Micro USB in 2020 too.

>>4983036
CHINK TIANAMEN SQUARE 1989 WEENIE THE POO

>>4983038
What are some good nigger killing tablets?
Ones that my lines are so straight, the sharpness kills niggers like you.

>>4983036
how much are they paying you

Yeah, I'm thinking this thread's based and on topic

>>4983042
Your move, Zhang

>>4983042
Nothing yet, but I will present my posting history as a job application credential soon. I'm sure XP Pen's marketing department is willing to finance a covert advertising agent posting on a (not quite so reputable) image board with maybe 10 people at a time visiting a thread.

>>4983025
Nice youtube video, Chang. Are you sure you speak english or is it all in Chinknese?

>>4983044
Hello Yang. I'm sorry there are no actual customers for you to shill to today

HOLY SHIT don't tell me the schizo on a 7 months crusade against the CCP is a janny. I mean that explains a lot.

Maybe tablet threads shouldnt exist on /ic/

The sticky should just get updated with the current brand of recommendations because the amount of nonsense in this "general" (if you want to call it that) is insane.

>>4983051
no, you dumbfuck.

>>4983053
Maybe jannies should actually be aware of what's happening on the board and not just indiscriminately delete a couple of posts once every day, then leave. Think decentralizing the discussion is gonna make the schizo relent?

>>4983051
Do you spend all your time eating dog meat?

>>4983055
Bow wow Chang keep shilling for your chinknese corporate masters and delusions

>>4983054
You're a slant eyed gook and just as thin skinned

The schizo is just embarassing and delusional

>>4983059
nice headcannon

>>4982999
Do you have a work visa for shilling in these threads, Zhang?

>>4983061
t. Chang

Remember to buy wacom and apple. For all the chinkshit shills

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Where are my proud, older gen Wacom Cintiq owners at? Feels good to use a brand you can rely on.

>>4983094
7 months. What a legend.

>/ic/ chinkshills general

>>4983094
How much are they paying you, Zhang?

Uh, wacomtroons?

>>4983096
Imagine paying 50 times more for old used garbage

>>4983116

>old equals bad
A lot of my old gear still works but a lot of the newer stuff I bought in recent years already gave out.

Don't forget to upgrade your iphone next month?

>>4983120
Cintiq troon

>>4980928
NOOOOOOO !
You Chang idiot you can post the videos of chinkshit working fine they gonna whip me again! You were supposed to believe my bullshit and buy S6 lite!

>>4983103
You don't get it, this is for the country, this is for the people, I am shilling against china all day every day using the only 5 English words I know to damage the chinese economy by discouraging the chinese purchases.

Please good sir you must do the needful and understand that China is a global agressor and we must deny their military funding by buying Intuos 3 and S6 lite, please sir use my referral link below to make sure the chinese economy crumbles.

>>4983096
Collecting dust

>>4983120
>iphone
Kek, i will upgrade my chinkphone when its dead.
It was 300$ and 2 years of service.

Lets see if it makes it below 100$ per year of service.

>>4983133
That’s 80% of /dtg/; complain about equipment but don’t use it.

>>4983137
I just I have other tablets I use now I can't show it the same love as I used to.

Hello from /qa/. I'll be buying a Huion soon!

>>4983176
Howdy

>>4983094
>Free Tibet
Tibetan serfs were freed from the feudal aristocracy in 1959.
>Tiananmen Square protests of 1989
Protest led by libtard fags who would have made China suffer the fate of USSR or Yugoslavia and were supported by the liberal right wing of the CPC.
>Tiananmen Square Massacre
There was no massacre in the square however there were armed clashes all over Beijing with casualties on both sides.
>Anti-Rightist Struggle
>Great Leap Forward
>Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution
70% correct, 30% wrong
>Human Rights
The hypocritical western imperialists are the greatest enemy of human rights.
>Multi-party system
China has more than one party.
>Republic of China
Defeated government in exile which still claims mainland China in addition to Mongolia as their territory
>Taiwan Formosa
Province of China under occupation of said government in exile. Formosa is the Portuguese name.
>Dalai Lama
Leader of exiled Tibetan aristocrats
>Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region
Autonomous region of China targeted by Al Qaeda affiliates fighting against PRC
>Falun Dafa
Chinese Scientology cult which denies modern medicine and thinks heaven is racially segregated
>Liu Xiaobo
Libtard fag who said that China needed to be under 300 years of colonialism and praised the invasion of Iraq
>Nobel Peace Prize
A fucking joke
>Winnie the Pooh
Still legal in China

>>4983210
Huion and XP-Pen are unreliable and a waste of money. People with more money than sense are trying to justify their bad purchases and trick other poor fools into making the same mistake.

>>4983210
>artwork and critique

>>4983210
based chink shill outing himself

>>4983269
Holy projection. Have at least an ounce of self reflection before posting. Huion and XP pen are the cheap options, so its not people with more money than sense now is it? If they had those qualities theyd be buying non display drawing tablets going for the same price as an RTX 2070.

>>4983381
>1.5 RMB has been deposited in your account!

>>4983442
>everyone who disagrees with me is a shill

boring

>>4983096
After six years I'd decided to replace my Cintiq 13HD since the screen got scratched enough and the cable was now so loose that any movement would cause it to briefly turn off and on again.
I just wanted a replacement but I guess they don't make them anymore, so I grabbed a Wacom One today. Feels the same but half the price I paid initially half a decade ago.

It's strange they try and brand it as 'bare bones ultra basic only for beginners!' but looking at the specs... It's identical to the bigger, expensive ones but 'it doesn't have the buttons, and the pen doesn't have an eraser'.
Is that literally it?

>>4983603
Screen quality and color gamut are bad, pen has the worst Wacom jitter, Drivers have been iffy on both Windows and Mac, and apparently people were having issues with the cords staying in.

>>4983610
Wacom drives in general tend to be mocked, so that's not a huge concern to me. The 13HD didn't have great quality or color gamut either as (at the time) it was the entry level as well.
The thing I do care about though, can anyone confirm about 'bad jitter'? As far as I know short of buying some mega-2k$+ tablet you're gonna be stuck with some.

vinyl matte sheets that u can get from a michael's or something to cover a screenless tablet server is a pretty cheap and effective way to scratchless surface, didn't realize this and used plexi glass like a retard that's horribly cut.

Plexi glass is nice but god damn everything is very slippery; awful for line work.

Say money is no problem, which is better between 4th ipad pro and samsung tab s7?

>>4983697
Or literally just paper / rough paper.

>>4983730
ipad

>>4983679
There is no hitter, that's literally the main strength of wacom tablets.
The guy who replied to you is a Chinese shill who was obviously hoping to convince you to buy an XP pen or Huion.

>>4983730
Why s7 and not the s7+?

iPad is better in every way except for using the tablet as a desktop display tablet, which the s7+ wins with superDisplay.
The s7+ also feels better to draw on without a screen protector. With the iPad, you won't get clean, straight lines unless you buy a paperlike or get used to using smooth stroke.

>>4984293

>>4983679
The main cintiq lines have much better pens available to use with them. The one is stuck with that one. For your own sake, if you can afford it, a used 13 or 16 pro would be your best option. Otherwise I would recommend an iPad considering your history with a smaller sized tablet.
If you're interested in 3rd party, that's also fine but they're more subject to quality control slips so its a gamble it seems.

>>4983096
Hello!

>>4985149
incredibly based on a true story

What is the best screenless tablet on the market?

>>4985451
Intuos pro M or Intuos 3. Next runner up is the current Deco Pro M or I think someone said the H430 is decent from Huion.

>>4985451
Intuos 3 is a good choice. I would avoid Huion or XP-Pen.

>>4985451
>>4985481

>>4985600
What am I supposed to be seeing here?

Are rotation capable pens worth it?

What's the best I can do with 200 bux? I was gonna buy a Huion but they do look shoddy

>>4986230
A pack of pencils and shitloads of paper

>>4985600

Just get the smooth surface. It's what I did and I don't regret my decision. Great tablet once you sort out the nib/rough surface issue.

>>4986230
used intuos 3, intuos 4 or intuos 5 pro medium (2013)

Reposting because /g/ is sucks and they don't wanna talk to me.
So I bought an S6 lite.
Why can't I use touch and the pen at the same time?
This is fucking stupid. Do you have any idea how many times I press that undo button per minute? Every time I do it I have to lift the pen 2 cm so it doesn't get registered anymore and only then can I press undo with my finger.
Samsung why do you do this? I refuse to get better at line consistency. Fuck you, let me molest the undo button until the fucking glass breaks.
Is there a way to use the touch and the pen at the same time? Google and duckduckgo couldn't help.

>>4986350
You could use a bluetooth keyboard for undo and other commands

>>4986164
Intuos pro nib wear.

>>4986244
You payed 400 dollars for a non display tablet. You payed 50 dollars for a solution that wacom engineered in on purpose.

>>4986358
nah that's too much setup
i just don't understand why they would disable the entire touch screen.

>>4986366
For palm rejection, the disabling of touch when the stylus gets close is the standard in every tablet with touch and usually can not be disabled as there are three layers to the input, the hardware level, the OS level and the application level.

I am not away of any device that acts differently.

>>4986350
What the fuck are you piffling on about? Most apps let you use both by default, and you have to go to the app settings to make it pen only. I am literally using two-finger undos while drawing in Infinite Painter right now.

Some people turn it off because palm rejection isn't as good as procreate on ipad.

So I just tried the S6 lite, S7 and S7+
The 6 and 7 are just way too small, fuck that it's tiny.
The 7+ fine for traveling I guess but in general it's not super good. Drawing on the screen isn't magic, feels awkward. the pen is meh, it works, but doesn't compare to a real tablet, the lag is the same on home screen and most apps but less in the samsung's own app.

Don't trust the mobile shills, unless you're going on a trip tablets aren't worth shit. The pc experience is still where it's at.

>Budget
unlimited
>Location
USA
>Type (display? non-display? portable?)
I don't know the advantages of one over the other.
>Size (in inches)
Biggest I can get. Bigger is good for tablets, right?
>Other information
I can draw really well with a pencil but it takes me hours. Basically an absolute beginner. Haven't drawn in years. I'm mostly going to draw sexy ladies and drawthread requests.
>Previous equipment
Pencil, pen.

>>4986906
Cintiq Pro 27 an ergotron arm and a comfy reclining chair, lean the fuck back and hang it above your face.

>>4986897
>Drawing on the screen isn't magic, feels awkward. the pen is meh, it works
Wow, great critique. Perfectly and eloquently explained, Xiang.

>>4986906
Cintiq pro 24
If you value your back and want to master the non display tablet, Intuos Pro M.

Also, contrary to what this guy says >>4986911 there is no cintiq pro 27.

>>4986897
Look at any successful artist, they all have wacoms or some chink shit. Nobody with any talent buys an android tablet

can you pirate the drawing programs for the s6 lite, I'm not really made out of money.

>>4987000
yes

>>4986931
I want one with software I won't have to subscribe to. Can I upload any version of Ps to it?

>>4987027
All tablets that aren't shit ipads or androids connect to your computer and your computer is where you can torrent anything. People crack stuff like PS CC before the updates are even posted on adobe's site.

you will do the needful and buy apple, right sirs?

>>4987833
my man bhuvanesh is completely based in his verdict, ipad is currently >>>>>>>>> for portable art tablet purposes. unfortunate because it's apple, but the tech speaks for itself

>>4987833
Appletrannies are so braindead

whats the best tablet for 400 bucks?

new ipad pros will be revealed today right bros?

Wacom Intuos Pro is good?

There's some deals on tablets for amazon prime members.
Like 50+ dollars off or something.
I'm in australia I'm not sure if it's everywhere.

>>4988394
Compared to a deco pro it just looks dumb.
Imagine paying 400$ for the tablet and then paying for the tips and replacable surfaces recurrently.

>>4988394
Industry standard for non-display tablets.

>>4988974
Hahaha, you are one desperate little chinese shill.

>>4988394
Had a large for the last 7 years and lugged it around with me in suitcases during that time, never covered the surface and never had to buy replacement tips, still works like a charm except I dropped the pen 50 gazillion times so sometimes I have to twist it back together but even that is easily replaceable. My bamboo from like 10 years ago still works too. Highly recommend, don't fall for anti wacom trannies

>>4988394
You can either heed a self loathing second gen chink immigrant and pay half a grand for a non display tablet, or you can also just not fucking do that. Dont get me wrong, the tablet will work (granted youll need to replace nibs weekly, daily if your grip/workflow is harsh), but make no mistake, youd objectively be a retard for buying one. Literally money down the toilet. This isnt 2010, wacom arent shit anymore.

>>4989013
7 years ago they were really different.
I heard they had a couple bad years lately and some really questionable decisions, such as the new surfaces sold 50$ a pop and nibs 1.2$ a pop.

/beg/ here, I bought a small Wacom Intuos last year without thinking as my first foray into art, and now I'm starting to wonder if I should keep it or get something larger.
It feels really stupid to replace a tablet in under a year as a beginner but shit it legitimately feels too small sometimes, especially when my hand starts to hurt and everybody says "you gotta draw with your whole arm" but I just don't have the area for it. Is it worth considering or should I just get used to it?

>>4989182
a friend of mine use the small one to teach her class now that corongas is here, only buy a bigger one if taking breaks to stretch your hand every 20 minutes doesnt cut anymore

>>4987000
Yeah just download the apks, I have the Tab A and I pirated ibis, medibang and infinite painter. But I still prefer sketchook, it's free.
Clip studio is the best one so far, i don't know if they've cracked it already but at least it comes with a 6 month trial.
Artflow seems good too but I couldn't find it for free.
Krita's beta is free as well, it's usable but you've gotta use it with a keyboard.

>>4989182
Yes the small tablets are too small. The large ones might be too large for some peeps but others love them, the medium size is universally liked.

In addition if your intuos is a non-pro it;s just a POS really, the non pro intuos are shit compared even to an old chinese tablet.

>>4989182
If you have $100 you can get something bigger and not feel bad. You'll get something larger and solid until you're ready to move up again or get something more serious.

would you pay $900 for a used 24 cintiq pro?

>>4989346
I'd pay 800$ for a brand new one.
Because that's how much a professional 4K Monitor and an Intuos Pro Large.

Old, scratched, dented, POS with cum flakes and dead pixels and chew marks on the stylus - nope, I'd never buy anything used.

I AM WAITINING FOR 3 WEEKS FOR MY IPAD PRO NOW GODDAMNIT I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOWWWWW

ipad 11 or 12.9?
I really prefer the 11 but I was told the 12.9 is better for drawing though considering I'm literally a retarded beginner I'm not seeing that much benefit to get the 12.9

>>4986941
Android tablets were regarded as shit for a long time.
Going to take awhile before popular artists start shilling galaxy tabs.
iPad brand is too strong.

>>4989531
in this case it's not about the brand, as much as it might surprise you
artists will start shilling galaxy tabs literally the moment galaxy tabs become a viable alternative. there's always a huge market, especially among young aspiring artists, for cheaper alternatives, and the only reason galaxy tabs haven't filled it is because they're just not good enough

>>4989337
This post applies also to dragon dildoes.

>>4989531
>the only relevant iPad app is procreate
Coping apple tranny

>>4989554
this whole post is cope. go buy your galaxy bro, nobody is stopping you

>>4989559
Imagine trying to replace a piece of garbage like an iPad with another piece of garbage like an android tablet. None of them have any useful apps. i.e. They're shit

>>4989566
ok

>>4989554
the ones on samsung suck sadly
idk why they dont invest in some retards to make a good app

Is 460 USD for an almost new Cintiq 16 a good deal?

comin' in hot with actual toppest-tier portable painting equipment

>>4979230
for your own sake listen to simpsons poster.

I was like you when I found this place and I was 12.

Now I'm 28. I've quit alcohol and amphetamine but I can not quit visiting this website.

>>4989337
I'm not that guy, but what is a good $100 tablet that's not small?
Do you have to buy used or get one of the Chinese tablets the OP warns against?

any good recommendations on software? i'm kinda new drawing in a tablet and i want to know if there is a good software i can use

>>4989754
Assuming you didn't go full retard and buy an ipad or android tablet you can pirate CSP (1.9.4 EX, you can use the online asset store) or Photoshop (latest is up on n0nkrus site, just search m0nkrus) or latest sai 2 beta, search the archives for the crack that works for the current beta. I use CSP for lineart and occasionally flatting and PS for the painting/colouring. SAI's really good for rei17 style blending.
>>4989750
The retarded schizo does not actually draw so you can basically ignore the retard. If you want to spend <100 you basically must purchase either a second hand tablet OR a new huion/xp pen MEDIUM. Medium's important or you'll fuck up your wrists. Also, non of the wacom intuos have tilt suppport except the pro ones. I just went and bought and intuos pro M, but not before going through one bamboo small and intuos small, both were too small to be good and crippled my artwork.

>>4989750
Nothing wrong with chinese tablets.
OP just has deep rooted hate for them.

>>4989772
If you also go up you can see proof that OP is a janny that is trying to crab people in this thread with misinformation and that OP doesn't even draw

>>4986364
I paid 200. Still covered by Wacom's manufacturer warranty. The smooth sheet is 20.

>>4989754
I really like Krita. it's a combination of being powerful, comfortable and reasonably fast.
There are also

>SAI
It's polished but super bare bones, like the bones bleached by the sun in a desert. There's ONE brush with 10 different presets, and that 's it. No editing features, no tweaks no shit. The hotkeys and everything are very nice and friendly, but there's just nothing else.
>CSP
It tries to combine SAI and photoshop, but misses either. It's not as comfy as sai to draw and not as powerful as PS for editing not even close.
In addition it's also a purely single threaded program that's just slow.
>Photoshop
It's virtually all mighty, it has all the editing features, in fact it invented them and is also slow. I can create a 60k by 60k canvas and take an easy and quick stroke with a 10K brush across the canvas and holy shit, it actually works, i had no idea.
But the workflow and interface are just pulling teeth. Adobe despise the artists, they want all those art customers to fuck off with their dirty money money, they only care about the photos.
Every action requires either 5 clicks, open a menu and pull a slider or press some awkward hotkeys with both hands. All of the above require you to remove the pen from your work and poke the menu with some tiny boxes and sliders, as if intentionally pen unfriendly.

That's why I went to Krita after PS. I can just do some things by hand as long as I don't have to suffer the photoshop workflow. Imagine having to use a slider to change the size of your fucking brush, in every other app you just do it with a comfy hotkey.

>>4989783
>I paid 200.
Is it fucking small? Or a refurb from a bad batch? I heard they had a couple of bat years when the usb just kept breaking all the time.

>>4989793
Refurb medium. No issues.

>>4989800
>refurb
That means it was broken once in the first place.

>>4989769
>>4989789
thank you

>>4989789
I just use the hotkeys for almost everything in PS because I've used it for so long it's become ingrained (and they're in a lot of other programs too). CSP big brushes are terrible but it benefits from having insane perspective rulers, locking to them and some basic 3D support and 3D models.

>>4989807
I used only PS for two years and I hated every moment of that.
The most trivial thing imaginable - changing your brush, something I do twice every second.
>reach for the [ ] brackets on the wrong end of keyboard and actually look there because I can't blindly locate then with one hand.
>the shift + alt scaling
It is just implemented wrong way around. It's bad and uncomfortable. SAI, Krita and SCP all nailed it, brush scaling is the way to go, even the shitty web based uses it.
>right click and pull a tiny sliders
The easiest option in PS but it's really not the right way to do it.

Krita has a set of different hotkeys, but they work because EVERYTHING AT ALL is in the bottom left part of the keyboard. You don't need to ever move your hand anywhere, it's always in the right place always working, never searching for the fucking brackets. left hand isn't even meant to press the brackets, those are the right hand keys.

>>4989826
iirc CSP/SAI/PS share the same brush size increase/decrease shortcut. It is kinda annoying but I basically learned one set of shortcuts and know them all. Krita does seem to have interesting brush customisation features, though, but I decided I'd get more out of learning more 3D or VFX programs over learning yet another 2D drawing program so I haven't been able to play with it yet.

>>4989789
Is Huion Inspiroy 1060 Plus good?
I was thinking of buying a Wacom tablet but, I see that Huion has good prices

>>4989715
Can anyone please provide feedback?

>>4989834
The thing is everybody is using "stretch brush" feature in any other software.
Shift + Alt (or ctrl) and you just stretch that circle, you make it just as big or small as you like by stretching it on the screen like it's a circle tool.

Is Huion Inspiroy 1060 Plus good?
I was thinking of buying a Wacom tablet but, I see that Huion has good prices

>>4989842
Oh god, that feature gives me zbrush and blender flashbacks.

>>4989839
1060 is a fifth rehash of an old design. They added tilt support and a pen without a battery, but the enclosure itself is an old design, it's fat, it squeaks, and it has a loose chinesium micro-USB that disconnects whenever you breathe at the cable.

There are better options.
>Deco 01V2
Virtually identical minus the negatives. It's slim, tight, uses a USB-C and feels premium to the touch.
>Huion HS611
It's an actually new design. Slim, USB-C, and it has a touch slider. Sliders or whels are completely useless for anything except Photoshop. In photoshop they save your life because you can scale your brush with it.
>Huion HS610
Same but with a physical wheel to rotate
>HS 1161
Same as HS611 but fuckhuge
>Xp-Pen Deco pro
It feels premium. It's actually made of aluminium, it's by far the thinnest, thinner than a cigarette, slightly bigger than medium and it has not only a spinning ring but even a fucking touchpad like a laptop, which is completely useless for anything except scrolling through porn with your left hand. Some people reported having wobble on the other chinks, well I don't have any on mine, at all, I even made a webm for a local faggot who didn't believe.

>>4989872
meant for >>4989846

>>4989750
All chinaman tablets have shit pens that always have problems like line wobble or horrible tapering

>>4989750
>the OP warns against?

OP is a shill.
This is a post by this faggot.

is ching chong back to having conversations with himself and giving himself recommendations? he wants that bump limit asap lmao

>>4989885
Now see this schizo who has never drawn a single line sperg out like in this post and when his thread fucking dies he samefags until some poor retard is dumb enough to post in it.

>>4989880
Oh and by the way imagine actually buying a tablet with touch used I bet my ass the owner was scrolling porn while jerking off with it, then minimized the window with the cum hand, and then you buy it from him.

>>4989193
>>4989265
>>4989337
Ok thanks, I'll actually consider it then.

>>4989897
Next time, make a new thread on /ic/ (or even /g/) in order to avoid the schizo in this thread. Half the time, he just gives schizo ngmi advice and the other half the time, he's LARPing to try and revive his dead thread.

>>4989872
Thanks :)

>>4989959
Ur welcome

>even kim works on a portable tablet
no excuses

>>4989715
>>4989840
Seems like a good deal I'd say go for it.

Make sure you get a stand for it though personally I'd suggest this one it doesn't cost as much as the official wacom.

>>4989872
Thanks

>>4982563
Mine just arrived yesterday, P615 LTE 128gb version. This will be my new phone. Stylus is good, pressure sensitive, EMR is nice. No jagged slanted lines during initial test. Feels like a Wacom pen I use in my Intuos 4 M, just a smaller version.

>>4989518
Anyone?

>>4991370
Bigger screens are better to draw on for your posture and gestures. Technically the 12 is too small still but it's appleshit so you can't get much bigger.

The answer is it doesn't fucking matter. just buy it and draw.

Found barely used secondhand 2018 ipad pro 11 for 630€. Got paid recently and want to have it as companion for content consuption and drawing when not behind the desk.

Looking at pro because its slightly bigger than 9.7 or 10.5 and not big like a book to carry around.

Should i pull the trigger or just settle at 10.5 to save up?

So I've have a screenless Wacom Bamboo Capture for years, which I've hardly used (drawing without a screen is a pain in the ass).

I was recommended an XP Pen 15, saw reviews (MikeyMegaMega on YT). But I'm seeing other shit like in this thread, albeit a lot of trolling going on.

What screen tablet should I really be looking into, around the $300-$400 range like the XP-Pen 15, especially around Black Friday/holiday season?

>>4992820
That's ok value. I'd be looking to get one for slightly less. I think gen 2 models represent better value for money.

>>4992871
Galaxy Tab S6 Lite. At least you know you're getting a good pen without line wobble or tapering. XP pen is no good, see >>4979149

The reason there is so much shit posting is because chinese salesmen go berserk in threads like this. Same with /csg/ on /g/.

>>4992880
That webm just shows one unit though. My friends works fine, and the same stuff doesnt happen in marc brunets review. I dont think its fair to say all are that bad. Thats why many see the OP as disingenuous misinfo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANWe6qJlLh4

>>4992885
No, that webm is 3 different units from 3 different reviews.
All youtube reviewers are shills, they're going to recommend 90% of products to ensure they keep getting tablets sent to them for free.

>Thats why many see the OP as disingenuous misinfo
Lol what's wrong, Zhang? This must be your 10th(?) attempt at pretending to be someone now?

>>4992911
But let me guess, not Rutten, right?

>>4992911
>Anyone who says they're not shit is a shill
>Marc Brunet, Dave Greco, all shills working for China

>This one webm however, this is the real deal

Im not highlighting this for you because you're a schizoshit ruining every single thread, pressuring people to buy toys like you did. This is just to remind others to ignore you.

>>4992950
Thank you for confirming your true colors, Zhang. Always funny to see you gaslighting desperately.

One of the clips is from Teoh Yi Chie and another is from Brad Colbow, who should be among your favorite reviewers. But wait, Brad said Aaron Rutten was right about Chinese company reviewer practices, so I suppose he's a horrible, evil, anti chinese fucker eh, Zhang?

>>4992958
What was that schizo? You managed to type something? Oh alright, let me look.

Oh yeah, the eyebrowless dude did a vid about aggressive underhanded chink marketing tactics. Sucks to be him I guess. Anyway, back to the point.
When Dave Greco for instance says in his review vid that theres no paid promotion going on, you go and claim that he's outright lying. You do this because you have to. Even though its an industry renowned, major artist who very rarely reviews anything and doesnt need huion for shit. You HAVE to because if ANY source contradicts your shitty boring webm, your position falls apart. Kind of sad to watch.

You say you arent an apple/wacom shill because you only recommend used products. But we know based on your other posts that thats not true, because if people here recommended used chink tablets, youd still call them shills.

I dont need to gaslight you. You genuinely seem to believe that there's both an army of chinese shills raiding this place, but also that its actually just chinese dude making all the posts.
You believe that theres a giant conspiracy all over youtube wherein major industry artists are all actually paid chinese shills.
You believe that huion, xp pen etc have all grown like they have because of a massive plot involving fixed reviews and that all their tablets actually suck, with their success simply coming from the fact that customers just miraculously stfu about the problems. You are either schizophrenic, or a sad aspie who keeps doubling down in a "im actually only pretending to be retarded" rabbithole.

>inb4 tldr

Again, this is for others, not for you. Capping it for ease.

>>4993017
Stop replying to the schizo and just let the general die. If he wants to fill his thread up with shit, let him wade in his own faeces and do his own bumping by himself forever.

>>4992871
Theres nothing else that operates at a usable level thats in the same price range.
The Wacom One has a smaller work space, more wobble, less reliable drivers and a mediocre pen despite the name brand. You'd have to save up for a contiq to get something worth the money from Wacom.

Alternatively, if you wanna be afraid for something that is cheap and works like OP wants you to be afraid of. You could go for the white man's China choice and get an ipad.

>>4979137
Hey /ic/, I'm thinking of getting a thinkpad.
I just want to know, is the x200 or x220 better for drawing with?

>>4993189
*x200 or x220 tablet, sorry

>>4993040
>replying to yourself again

>>4993189
>>4993193
If you want a crypto pedo larp laptop, either will work.
If you want a portable drawing device, your android phone with a wacom is a better choice.
Surface tablets are almost acceptable. I'm using a thinkpad X1 tablet and the pen it ships with is shit and the screen melts after a week of use. They discontinued the line after my 2018 model. The iPad pro is the only all-in-one pen device that doesn't do pic related.

>>4993239
Thanks I guess, I was looking into those is because I'm looking for a laptop to do some software development in linux, while working on some animation in my spare time.
In any case, I was looking for a graphical drawing tablet, but I have a really low budget. (100-200 dollars)

>>4993263
Well luckily for you, its not 2010 anymore. 100 Is enough to buy a perfectly capable med sized tablet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMmKvPUsbFg

And no, its not a fucking shill, its dave fucking greco.

Could anyone who uses ipad 9.7, 10.5 or 11 share some of their work? Have trouble deciding on the size. It seems like every art i've seen on smaller ones have somewhat of a loose form because of shorter brushstrokes and constant pinch zooming. Is it true?

>>4993273
>chinashit
shill...

>>4993273
Okay, thanks, do you know of any budget tablets like pic related?

>>4993283
Fuck off retard.
Just incase you're stupid enough to not know this, ALL of your shit is manufactured there.

https://investors.wacom.com/wp/media/files/investor-relations/2019-english/2019_annual_report_wacom_final.pdf

>>4993284
A display for 100-200 isnt going to be great Im afraid, even with the budget options. Youd need at least 500 for an acceptable display tablet.

>>4993344
Okay, thanks for letting me know though. I might end up buying a Thinkpad anyway for muh software development, but I'll look into the Huion tablets for sure.

>>4979137
ok guys I want to get into digital art, so what tablet should i get?

>Budget $500-1000
>Location USA
>Type (display? non-display? portable?) display , portable not required but i will take it
>Size (in inches) At least 16
>Other information: using this for krita, illustrator, and photoshop.
>Previous equipment: none

>>4993363
Cintiq 16. Wacom is selling them refurbished from their official store.
Cintiq 22HD if you can get a good deal used.

>>4993371
>Cintiq 16. Wacom
but op says they are terrible, whats up with that?

>>4993376
Show me the part of the OP that says that.

>>4993378
>>4979137
>Cintiq Pro - Terrible value. The drawing experience might be good, but you're paying way too much for an unreliable product. Dead pixels are frequent, as are black screens of death.
or am I retarded

>>4993382
A Cintiq Pro is different from a Cintiq.

Pros are more expensive, out of your price range.

>>4993382
You arent. The OP is a retard who wants everyone to buy an ipad like he did.

>>4993382
yep

>>4993385
t. chang

>>4993193
Yuck.

>>4993040
Why are you so mad?

New thread

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