/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>how do I make my lines red like t here red lines???
>/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4967194
>duplicate the lineart
>gausian blur
>then maybe set the layer to multiply and lower the opacity a bit

that's my best guess

>>4967204
Actually, the lines are full black.
They just look reddish due to the analog tape.
This makes it impossible for it to be upscaled legitimately and keep that cozy warm glow.

>>4967215
>Actually, the lines are full black.
>they just look reddish because they’re red
OP asked about his image

Simpsons art style is trash anon.

>>4967212
congrats
you've achieved orion blur

>>4967223
that's a cel from the same episode.

>>4967245
Is it?
The episode never has a frame with Santa's Little Helper with the bug eyes nor a frame of Homer's mouth open with only the top row of teeth.
Comic Mint is pretty shady, so I wouldn't put it past them to fake the cel.

>>4967251
Heratige Auctions has the exact same cel, exact same non-existent Santa's Little Helper expression, and has this in the description.
>Animation was this scene from the very first Simpson episode, "Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire" (also called The Simpson's Christmas Special; airdate: 12/17/89) This 12 field cel features the entire Simpson family: Homer, Marge, Bart, Lisa, Maggie, Grandpa, Patty and Selma, and family dog, Santa's Little Helper. This one is #43 in an edition of 200. It has the Fox seal and original Fox Letter of Authenticity on the reverse. This small edition was an instant sell-out upon release 25 years ago, and they are very hard to find. Framed and in Fine condition.
So it's not the one used in the episode, but a copy made by FOX.

Here's an actual cel and the tape capture

This one actually has the warm glow in HD

>>4967245
Are you autistic?

>>4967194
i used to watch the simpsons on analogue tv 20+ years ago, and the lines were clearly BLACK
the glow is probably introduced with hd upscaling or digital transfer

>>4967261
43 frames are like 2 seconds of animation, duh

>>4967194
Those are called JPEG artifacts after converting it to PNG

>>4967194
first blur and then use some ai sharpen filter
or resize it to 240p and then use some ai upscale filter

>low iq retards
>its blur and filters!

>high iq chads
>its technology limitations so its impossible to mimic

>>4967194
Looking at the image it seems like the actual outlines are mostly more black, while lines inside are a little closer to the surrounding color. Some of the thinner lines also blend to the color surrounding it.

It's probably a byproduct if being non-digital and shot with a camera, being paint on cel, etc.

Digital is soulless, but god damned if it isn't 1000x more convenient when it comes to color. When I color, I like to do lineart traditionally, scan it, and ink (if not already inked) and color on top the lineart instead of working on layers and hiding the paper and lineart completely.

>>4967474
That's because when you draw it's not 100% opaque traditionally. Then you just apply colour burn on top of the lineart to a colour that resembles it on upscaled lineart and it will pass a cursory examination.

>>4967474
(cont)
So basically colour the lineart to a desaturated reddish brown (and spin the sliders until it looks right) and set the layer to colour burn. Unlike multiply it doesn't straight up darken colours, it will affect colours in the vicinity.

>>4967438
>top iq chads
>its technology limitations so its possible to mimic

>>4967204
Think before you post, anon.

And if there isn't enough 'warm glow' you can select the lineart colour burn layer afterwards, feather mask it by a few pixels and bucket on top with another layer.

>>4967285
>>4967292
>those warm, texture-rich pen lines
Why doesn't digital animation do this more. It's not hard to mimic even with vectors nowadays, and adds so much character compared to solid smooth lines cartoons all use now.

>>4967292
>skin color is completely different in heads and bodies
thank god they don't use those horrible, archaic, physical cels anymore

>>4967502
execs

>>4967502
Current one pieces anime adaption uses a textured brush for lines and its great

>>4967194
Flatten image
move red channel to the left a few pixels
save as jpeg at maximum compression
open it, reduce size by half, save as jpeg again.

>>4967438
ngmi

>>4967194
Chromatic aberration.

>>4967514
The virgin soulless US Executive
>>4967515
The Chad Japanese art direction

>>4967532
Have a neat website too
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/114981

>>4967228
he's not asking about the style per se (ie how they draw faces) just the effect on the lines

>>4967285
retard here, what is a tape capture for? what does it do?

sneed?

>>4967530
cool
thanks bro

>>4967563
he means as captured from VHS tape

>>4967515
>>4967502
Can anyone here spoonfeed a brainlet on what you're talking about? I'd love to have this look; 90% of my time with digital is just trying to make it look traditional.

>>4967607
There are default and custom brushes that have a texture applied to them to give off a certain look digitally
Left is normal g pen right is “real g pen”

>>4967514
The fucking truth, sadly. "good art" to most people is on-model with clean lineart.

>>4967540
It really does look much better than tons of other anime for that one difference.

It's fun to draw Simpsons with ink joy pens

>>4967613
how to do that on SAI

>>4967588
I see. i assumed it was a cel animation technique or something

>>4967530


REEEEEEEEETAAAAARRRRRD

not one of you fuckers have got it right. it's called colour bleed and it's unique to vhs. a good way of replicating it is:
-duplicate the finished frame
-blur the top layer and reduce opacity
-fuck around with increasing the saturation / warmth of the top layer
-add noise to the image with a noise filter
-then downscale your image quite a lot, and blow it up again, you don't want clean lines, and this will blur the colours even more

>>4970305
or just record your shit to vhs

>>4967194
draw lineart
color it on a separate layer
copy the color layer, put blur on it and make it a pin light layer, put it on top of the lineart layer

>>4970316
no

>>4970318

>>4967438
>impossible to mimic
reminder that technical limitations are easy to emulate when autists are on the case
https://youtu.be/Y3i-bcbh4Q0

>>4970294
u alright there bud

>>4967292
that's not a warm glow. the cels are throwing a shadow on the BG.
the characters were painted on transparent cels and then superimposed over the BG art layer. because there's a physical gap between the layers, this sometimes could cause the upper to throw a shadow onto the lower one.
you can see the process here:
https://youtu.be/jPuTVjpuom8?t=590

you can see that effect in old anime shows and movies.
my guess to why the shadows appear reddish in the old simpsons show would be, the yellow skin colour is making the shadow reddish.

>>4967515
I am pretty sure the animation pencils are still done on paper.

>>4970389

>yoU ALrigHT THerE BuD

FUCK YOU, YOU"LL NEVER MAKE IT YOU'RE GONNA BE /BEG/ TIER FO R THE REST OF YOUR MISERABLE FUCKING LIFE. DON'T EVEN TRY, JUST GIVE UP MAGGOT

yeah i'm good

>>4970401
thanks
any idea as to what these light lines that loosely surround shadows and highlights are?
I'd say that the reason they're there is to provide the colorists a shape to fill in, but they look like a completely different type of paint from the actual color layer.

>>4970469
my guess is, that the colorists mark the shapes in on the front - you can see it overlapping the outlines. then turns the cel around and colours the rest of the charactes characters.
as to why the colours look different, it's probably because you see the same colour once from the front and from the back. the cel itself makes the colour from the back appear darker.
may I ask where you got that gunsmith image from? the quality is amazing.

bart

>>4970403
not wrong

>>4970249
Do you really need to be spoon fed this much
Are you even experimenting and researching

>>4971388
yes
now hop to it, bitch

>>4971467
Naw you probably don’t even draw much lol. Keep scratching your head like an ape

>>4967514
Animation it's all pain, I really wanna specialize in animation and workin on cartoons but the more I hear about the industry the worst it gets.
All I want is to make cool characters move and have a lot of "soul" to the style, why is everything so sterile nowadays.

>>4967194
it's a VCR to digital artifact dude

>>4970469
that closeup is fucking fantastic

>>4971852
Animators need to work for themselves again.

>>4967514
Pretty much. Execs are the literal satans of the animation industry. So unless you can convince them it's a "stylistic choice", it ain't going to fly by them.

>>4973589
>Execs are the literal satans of every industry

>>4967212
a full black lowered in opacity is indistinguishable whether as a multiply or normal layer

Fuck, /ic/ doesn't even know how layer modes work...

>>4972557
>*gets outsourced*

>>4973617
Isnt that the truth bitch?

>>4974301
fuck off

>>4967438
>galaxy iq chads
>know you can recreate it by using a single chromatic aberration filter set to red

>>4967438
Everything in the world is possible when you get someone with autism on the job.
Autists are shunned in this world but I believe their relentless drive is admirable.

>>4971852
put together a team and see if you can make a pseudo-OVA

>>4973711
newfag doesn't understand anti-aliasing

>>4971467
haha imagine thinking you can be both ignorant and rude lol