/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Sure, let me feed your unbiased pondering

>>4942261
Manga has artists who are better that come and go, they don't desperately cling to fame.

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>>4942985
Well this shits on op

>>4942988
Murata tends to do that, yeah

>>4942958
>Isayama
>Attack on Titan
>The fucking Owl reveal

NO ONE HUMAN SHOULD BE ABLE TO PRODUCE SUCH KINO

>>4942988

>>4942985
It’s crazy how Murata shits on literally every single comic book artist out there while drawing their main subject matter. His Spider-Man pieces are absolutely amazing, having so much life and movement to them. They’re compositionally excellent, and the colors are vivid and pleasant. Then you look over at say Jim Lee, and the dude’s pencils are the only good thing, and still not as good as Murata cause it’s never a dynamic action pose, but the character “standing around looking cool” instead, AND, he only ever pencils and rarely inks and never colors. 90% of his work is usually ruined when finalized because pf this. Meanwhile, Murata did it all alone, and did it way better than a team of 3+ people ON a tighter deadline.

To answer OP. Yes, there are severa that completely shit all over your capeshit heroes. It should be blasphemy that you even mentioned Moebius in the same sentence, AND it shows how much of a pleb you are, since you failed to mention any of the absolutely incredible European comic artists, like Antonio Federici.

>>4943006
Don’t think I’ve ever scene a mahvel or dc comic artist ever make a composition like this

>>4942261
There's no need for gooks to compete with comic artist anymore because comics are completely irrelevent now and dead alttogether in the next 2 years. Sorry that the zoomers only liking chinese cartoons.

>>4942261
Jim Lee is a shitter. Why do people overate him so much? He’s slow as fuck. He gives every character chink eyes. All his character poses are stiff. “B-but look at all those crosshatches!” Polished turd. Lee will always be a diversity hire in my eyes that got lucky in the 90s. Fuck him.

>>4943002
Some folks are just born with the ability to blow minds imo

Honestly I simply never got the fad of comics or manga
Maybe im a pseud but the story has to interest me in some way beyond
>one punch man wow
>regular capeshit

>>4943009
and before anybody uses the "he went to art school so he got learning chances some of us didn't" cope, Yuske Murata has no formal art education and was a published manga author at 19.

I think he read a loomis book or something but other than that he just copied manga and anime he liked

>>4943017
>gooks
>Chinese
>gooks
>Japanese
Learn English first retard. The derogatory terms for Asians are:
Gooks = Koreans
Chinks = Chinese
Japs/Nips = Japanese
SEAniggers = everyone else

I know you’re trying to be clever by lumping them all together, but it only makes you come across as an idiot. It’s the equivalent of calling an American a leaf or a beaner, rather than a burger or gringo. Or calling a Spaniard a Frog or a Kraut rather than a Spic.

>>4943028
>fad
>thinking people say "wow" when they see OPM

>>4943031
Murata is a legitimate prodigy.

>>4943006
Damn this is cool as shit, western artists are you even trying?

>>4943034
I guess but isn't that what the story boils down to? I got bored after he killed the beetlenigger and went to grocery store.

>>4943036
it's almost embarrassing how good his spiderman illustrations are

>>4943031
>published at 19
FRUG

>>4943031
>at 19
Pack it up boys, it's over for us.

>>4943047
No one man should have all this power..

>>4943042
>isn't that what the story boils down to?
There basically is no story, it's just a spectacle manga. If you don't like spectacle, then go somewhere else. Nobody is invested in OPM for the story, we just want to see what sort of madness Murata will come out with next.
But thinking that comics and manga are a fad is patently retarded. Unless you were using the word without knowing what it means, in which case you're concentrated retarded.

>>4943051
Yoshitoshi abe started drawing as a complete beginner at 18. He never even read manga until then because his dad wouldn't let him watch tv or read comics when he was young.
Never too late...

>>4942261
spawn's design has genuine soul. He's so cheesy. Great character

>>4942958
Isayama is /beg tier
>>4942261
Mangakas can draw at the same level waaaay faster

>>4943051
Japanese people are conditioned to be workaholics and get a head start in a professional career as soon as humanly possible.
One Piece author was an assistant at age 17 iirc.
It's just how it is man. You don't gotta beat yourself up over it.

>>4943032
>everyone else
Not necessarily...

gook
/ɡo͞ok/
noun INFORMAL•OFFENSIVE
plural noun: gooks

a foreigner, especially a person of Philippine, Korean, or Vietnamese descent.

>>4943006
OP has been really quiet

>>4943224
very true...

Still though, Japs and Chinks aren't gooks though.

>>4943171
Yeah being a career slave is nothing to be jealous of, it’s similar to envying the work ethic of kids in sweatshops

>>4943056
god I wanna cuddle tatsumaki so fucking much oh god I'm so lonely

>>4942261
The Legendary comic artists you listed, at their peak, can never be outmatched by the comic artists in Japan since Tezuka.

But then the this is the best of Western comics offers to it's loyal 50 year old readers.

A random sampling of October 2020 list. Imperial Japan probably read Batman in the 1950s, during occupation, and now their children's children can still go back to batman as introduction to western great comics.

You can argue Batman is great, you'd be right. But comics will forever tied to these heroes in spandex and manga just goes into trends until Japan as a country is wholly replaced by Globalists.

But comic artists are forced to draw these superheroes until we all reach Utopia or Hell. Absolute stagnation lmao

>>4943504
>western art is all the same :^D

>>4943534
What a shitty bait, next time at least don't use collages from DA made of promozionale images

>>4943534
That's a very diverse range of characters and artstyles though.

>>4943717
This is your brain on Chinese cartoons

>>4943651
no hunter x hunter lamee

>>4943739
But I consume all kinds of film and media.
You're seriously deluding yourself if you think all those characters look the same.

>>4943739
That image did a horrible job of trying to show anime looks alike.

>>4943534
Try better seething capeshitter.

>>4943752
>>4943755
>>4943847
Cope harder chinkchasers, anime is even faggier than capeshit and capeshit is literally muscular men in spandex. Both styles are retard tier and all the same shite

>>4943852
T. Fruit basket painter

Since this thread about comics. What's the comics with best color work?

>>4943857
Fruit baskets are equally faggotish

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>>4942267
>first post and OP is already annihilated

>>4943861
This is beautiful

>>4943852
Never actually said I was a fan of anime but whatever you say champ.

>>4943051
>us
speak for yourself

>>4944402
pyw

>>4943534
>using tv adaption character art
Cmon dude

>>4942261
In what way, dipshit? Art skill? Composition? Storytelling?
The pantheon of god-tier comic book/manga artists includes Moebius, Alberto Breccia, Winsor McCay, Katsuhiro Otomo, Burne Hogarth, and Hal Foster. I'll find the other six as I read more.
>>4942267
>>4942985
>>4943006
>>4943047
>>4943056
>Murata
Meh.
>>4943009
>Antonio Federici
>posts Riccardo
He's not that great either.
>>4943861
Cyril Pedrosa, John Higgins, Francois Boucq, Chris Ware, and Dave Stewart comics usually have great colors.

>>4944688
>Meh
Contrarian hipster, please fuck off.

>>4943002
>>4943027
It's because he read Watchmen.

>>4944695
No.

>>4942261
>mixing euros with burgers
nice try faggot, cape shit suck monkey ass

>>4944695
This, he's the type of retard to eat shit but so long as he's the only one he deludes himself into thinking it's good.

>>4942261
>comic book artists
>no iven reis
Guy has some of the best pencils in comics period.

>>4942261
I can think of a few, yeah.

>>4946701
Blame is undefeated

>>4946455
Are you referring to the Murata fan or me? Because this doesn't apply to me.

>>4946770
B-because this doesn't apply to me...

>>4946786
Don't be so sensitive that I don't like your favorite artist. I have nothing against you, unless you are Murata himself.
As you look at more art, you will understand what I mean by calling a beloved artist like Murata "meh".
Sure he's talented, and his artistic strengths will sell some manga, but he ain't that great and he doesn't appeal to me.

>>4946849
Murata is not one of my favorites, but the man is a beast and i recognize that.

He isn't one of the finest artist of all time, far for being one. But when it comes to artists in the comics medium it's undeniable that the man is an unstoppable beast (and quite possibly one of the best) specially in recent times, there is no point in denying that whether you like his art or not.

>>4946877
I have 0 idea of what's going on in that image

>>4946880
are you blind or just in denial?

>>4943051
The mangaka of Short Cuts started learning at 24 and got published at 26.

>>4946877
Fair enough. I just respond that way to people that think he's a master, which he isn't, but I do admit he is a very talented action manga artist and machine-like in productivity. Still, his work no longer appeals to me.

>>4943009
>Antonio Federici
You mean Riccardo Federici?

>>4944688
desu Chris Ware is overrated in the artistic sense imo. I enjoy and appreciate his stories but the drawings look like something out of an ikea manual. Completely boring, sterile and devoid of life. It's a real shame too because if you look at his sketchbooks you can see that he clearly knows how to draw. In terms of american comic artists I personally prefer Mazzucchelli's art to Ware's. The others you listed are good but it's hard to compare them to Murata because the aim of their work is so different. Murata's goal is to draw dynamic and fluid action that excites the reader and I think he handily outclasses most western artists who try to do something similar. Artists like Pedrosa are more focused on things like mood and atmosphere and not high octane action like Murata.

>>4946880
Stay in school kiddo

>>4947402
I also prefer Mazzucchelli to Ware. He has two of the most solid entries in the history of the capeshit, and two of the greatest indie comics as well. Asterios Polyp is arguably in the top 25 greatest comics/manga of all time.
I think Chris Ware, despite his crazy layouts and bright colors, and as you say, sterile nature, is actually pretty subtle. I listed him alongside a bunch of colorists because of this subtlety. I'm not done with just yet, but already I think he's great.
As for Murata, he is very talented but his approach isn't interesting to me anymore. There are other mangaka and western artists that handle action sequences in a manner more to my liking, even if he is obviously technically better. I haven't even looked at OPM since 2018 at the latest. I would actually like to see Pedrosa crank out a full cinematic action comic, given his history in animation.
I don't really compare them to each other, but I do value them on their strengths. All of the so-called "god-tier" artists I listed are highly skilled in multiple fields of art.