/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4927075
if political is just trashing other people then yes

>>4927075
yes, i follow artists for their art not for their political opinions

>>4927075
>Does it bother you when an artist gets political?
Yes, it's unprofessional and distracts from the art.

>Is it close minded to unfollow an artist just because they tweet things I disagree with?
No, because it's unprofessional and distracts from the art. You should probably unfollow artists that tweet political opinions you do agree with too, though.

Unless the artist makes political art, muddying up your art and brand with personal politics is foolish.

>>4927075
>Does it bother you when an artist gets political?
No, I like seeing the ngmi rightoids in this board seethe.

i dont like people who use their art platform to be loud and stupid, but i dont care much if its a passing opinion that doesnt really denigrate others

BLACK LIVES MATTER

>>4927075
This is the only reason why I miss tumblr, it was far more common for artists to have a personal and art blog, and 9 times out of 10 I would skip straight to the art blog because they just couldn't stop talking about politics all the damn time. Now if you want to follow anyone on twitter you have to sift through hundreds of posts about everything but art, and a media tab that's full of "funny" memes and other miscellaneous pictures, and maybe one piece of art thrown in there once in a while.

let's harass artist's if they don't post their art course for free in the name of BLM

>>4927107
No they don't, retard

>>4927107
They don't, because luckily we have no shitskins in our country. Yet.

>>4927117
I have a better idea! Let's harass artists with BLM, ACAB and their pronouns in their bio for freeze peach!

>>4927083
This, artists should only be mechines dishing out art constantly

>>4927083
Artists should never speak their mind, they should just draw. Got it.

>>4927105
But OP linked a leftoid, anon. Is being retarded a political position to you?

>>4927107
Where I come from they don't, they are pretty much dime a dozen.

>>4927133
If you have an idea you want to convey just draw it out, if you can't adequately convey the idea in your art then it wasn't worth sharing to begin with.

>>4927133
Professionals should be professional, crybaby.

>>4927075
It bothers me whenever an artist posts text, bad art, memes, gacha photos, food photos, politics, random photos or anything that isn't art because I only follow them for art references.

>>4927117
>If you TRULY supported BLM you'd make your courses free so that the systematically oppressed and disenfranchised can get a leg up

>>4927168
>Professionals should be professional
>crybaby.
Oh, like you?

>>4927133

There is no value in speaking your mind for its own sake. Millenials and zoomers have created a culture that mistakenly correlates honestly and authenticity with being open about your opinions for the sake of attention and proving something to other people.

In other words, it's not wrong for an artist to speak his mind, but there's always a time and place, and professionalism is always going to be valued.

>>4927208
So artists should just be machines with no independent thought. Right.

Artists are some of the most uninteresting fuckers on the planet. I've yet to meet one of them that reads much. Their opinions and advice outside art are worthless.

>>4927214
Way to completely ignore what that anon was saying, baka definitely ngmi with that self centered attitude

>>4927075
He's kind of right. Nothing screams personal failure more than affinity based on some phenotypic trait. Nothing more than the 21 century version of the retards that thought callipers were a legitimate measure of propensity for certain traits.

>>4927075
if you don't like them, don't follow them. I have no issues with artists getting political because I can't tell them what to do as an individual.

The fact that you came all the way over here to bitch about it makes me think you're pretty triggered by the statement though.

>>4927090
Well, OP. What have you to say about this?

>>4927075
I just want to GRILL & PAINT ffs

>>4927227
This same person will turn around and celebrate black pride, asian pride, hispanic pride etc

>>4927195
Good one.

>>4927075
Completely. I stopped following and supporting Aaron Blaise after he drew a swastika over Trump's face. These stupid artists don't realize they're in an echo chamber and would be even more of a hard core Nazi than the people they complain about today if they were in 1940s Germany.

>>4927107
absolutely.

>>4927300
Not.

>>4927214
>independent thought
Haha your thoughts are independent. Sure.

This is the EXACT REASON why I lurk in 4chan now, I got fucking cancelled LMAO because I contradict my fellow artists' political views in my country.

>>4927075
Wow, another anti white opinion. Risky!

>>4927117
>>4927191
unironically a good idea

>>4927075
>"if you're 'x' then fuck you and unfollow me immediately"
>not 'x'
>*unfollow*

>>4927331
Because spouting things you heard from /pol/ definitely make you an individual.

>>4927083
>Does it bother you when an artist gets political?
>Yes, it's unprofessional and distracts from the art.
This 100%.

>Is it close minded to unfollow an artist just because they tweet things I disagree with?
>No, because it's unprofessional and distracts from the art. You should probably unfollow artists that tweet political opinions you do agree with too, though.
Also this. I'll add that nothing stops someone from making an account solely for art and making an account solely for voicing opinions. It's unfortunate that many artists cannot simply get out of their own way, but coomers have a way of inflating someone's ego.

>>4927407
Based.

Test

>have an audience of right and left wings on Twitter, but think the majority is either left leaning or centre or even apolitical
>Instagram is different and has way more left leaning audience/anti-trump/pro-blm
>Want to draw trump for the upcoming election, but in my style
>Never post or tweet about my political opinions (I think their called "takes" or "hot takes" now) , maybe like other people's tweets or maybe sometimes retweet something I like from a right wing person
>Like Trump, but disagree on some things, plus I'm Canadian so I can't support him even if I wanted to
>Mostly just want to draw him in my style above any dumb political message desu

I'm gonna do it.

>>4927075
All politics is worthless stupidity. Posting it just makes you look like a dumbass piece of shit, otherwise you would realize that every election is about courting moderates and 90-95% are set in their opinion and stop. A lot of them have no personality outside of politics either (and so make vacant art).

People who make high-quality, interesting art keep politics at a distance, at most. Otherwise maybe they can draw pretty but they can't make good things.

>>4927133
Autistic retard. ngmi

>>4927129
>>4927133
This unironically. Fuck off back to Twitter.

I don't care that much, but I think it should have a separation, between where people go to consume your art and where people go to hear about your life and opinions.

Imagine going to watch a movie but it is actually 2 hours of actors saying their political opinions? That is why artist are the more annoying, a game developer will have a storefront where you can buy and play their game without having to hear their shit opinions (unless they put it in the game, but that is another story), but with artists wont.

Back in the day, people would have a site where to post their work and a blog for shit posting.

>>4927689
When you go watch a movie it's two hours of the director saying his/her opinions.

>>4927075
>coom artist makes political post
>coom art proceeds to make coom art that also includes his political takes
At times I wonder if these fuckers are serious or just doing it ironically.

>>4927730
I said political opinions. and a movie is, first and foremost, a movie, it is not just the director talking to a camera.

>>4927741
>>coom art proceeds to make coom art that also includes his political takes
at least he is putting some effort.

>>4927075
>this thread

newsflash dipshits

>>4927107
Yes!

>>4927482
This 100%

Politics is a dog an pony show made up to give people something to be outraged over and gain social capital. It has snaked its way into every entertainment medium, and I actively seek out and buy from artists that keep it at a distance.

>>4927410
No. Spouting things your favourite musician or actor wrote on twitter does.

>>4927208
>Millenials and zoomers have
Thank God these boomers dying

>>4927763
leftyfags say only this when it suits them, so no fuck you and fuck off, homosexual

>>4927777
Yep. Politics is bullshit and its inescapable these days. Its everywhere stupid shit all over the news and social media. I want to look at art? Oh cool artists are giving their opinions on fucking everything going on in politics every day? Unfollow. I try to sit and chill at home and my roommate is constantly trying to start debates with me just because we don't agree on everything. I'm so done with this bullshit. Its all just outrage fuel for normies.

>>4927075
Anons here get political all the time so why are those artists here not allowed to?

>>4927819
Art IS political. It always has been and always will be.

>>4927075
I only follow artists who post more art than opinions. Don’t really care about their opinions, but I didn’t sign up to see their soapbox rally.
It’s a shame. Dana Terrace used to post nice doodles, but her profile is just show promotion and politics now.

>>4927948
This is the most political I've seen /ic/ lately honestly.

I do keep my twitter clean but the site pushes you to interact/tweet about stupid shit more. I have a lot less like-to-follower ratio than i do on my talk account
>>4927960
Cartoon shworunners either don't have the time to draw or what they're working on is fully under NDA. But to keep relevance on the site, they post anyway.

>>4927214
Jesus if you want the atention so bad you can always create another account then link it in your bio and rant all you want there. It's really annoying when i follow someone for their art and they start rambling about politics that are not even from my country.

Mine's already too fucked up to care about yours.

>>4927075
>every pride is ok except white
lol, hypocrisy
also yes I do follow many artists who don't align with mine, I just ignore their stupid posts and appreciate the art, it's no biggie.

>>4927107
Prove it

>>4927107
Nah

>>4927754
Yes, I did forget to type political. But that's exactly what a movie is. If you took even an hour to really think about a movie, you'd realize that nothing is free from the creator's ideology.
>>4927819
Pathetic strawman.

>>4927247
I'm not the one calling people crybabies while expecting them to be pRoFeSsIoNaL!

>>4927837
>oh noes! politics in MY art!
I mean it's not like art is inherently political or anything, but what do I know?

>>4927998
>I don't care
>let me type up this essay on how much I don't care
Sounds like you're the one craving attention, buddy

>>4928016
>it's not like art is inherently political or anything
True, it's not.

>>4928019
False. Everything is political whether you boomers like it or not :)

>>4928022
You’re right drinking water is a political statement.

>>4928022
Once you grow up and get a real life (if you ever do), you will realize politics is the most shallow and worthless thing you were ever sold and you wasted a lot of your life energy on nothing.

Protip: You yourself have zero effect on the "system". Your "opinions" were given to you by an office drone in a basement in Langley, your reactions were perfectly calculated and measured by the media you are reacting to, your vote is thrown out the window as soon as you cast it, and the only thing you do is line the pockets of jewish banksters with even more money.

And you do it for free lmao

>”art isn’t political guys” - centrist faggot
>fags, jews, blacks, spics, asians take over art
>art gets subverted and weaponized against whites
>centrist faggot still keeps screaming how art isn’t political as the noose gets tighter

>>4928036
>art gets subverted and weaponized against whites
Not only a retard, but a schizo too? Ok

>>4928036
>blacks, spics, asians take over art
>art gets subverted and weaponized against whites
not all, you still have friends out there.

>>4927819
Art can absolutely be political and have non-left (read: bad) takes. See the average political 'cartoon'

>>4928036
This is a really bad example but in essence you're correct I guess.

Why is this the fastest thread on ic

>>4928040
the moment anyone here starts talking about 'ThUh WhIyTeS' is when I give up on trying to converse with them. /Pol/ really did a number on this dumpster back in 2016.

>>4927075
I mean if you are proud about something out of your control like your nationality you must live a pretty meaningless life.

>>4927075
>Cool drawing shows up in my feed
>click on artists profile to see what else they have to offer
>scroll through the "media" page on twitter
>Literally 95% of it is just reaction pictures from real life tv shows with hearts and emojis and crap added to them


W H Y ?

>>4927075
Art is almost always “political”

>>4928046
Because our resident (((apolitical))) retards need to defend their hopeless position that human creations are completely devoid of any subjective influence.

>>4927075
If you don't get political you're not an artist, simple as.

>>4928006
you seems to be making the "every thing is political" argument? which I don't really agree, but it is irrelevant in this case. because if you can make your political opinions entertaining I don't care, even if I disagree with it.

the problem is that things like the op is not entertaining at all, to me at least, and it gets in the way of the art that is entertaining.

>>4928030
"Grow up" says the 4chan boomer

>>4928060
I can agree with that.

>>4928062
4chan has never been a secret club, it's one of the most trafficked websites on the internet

>>4928069
Thank you for anonsplaining the internet to some stupid little zoomer like me :)

>>4927075
>mfw reading this thread
The only people who whine and complain about this stuff are right-wing retards and apolitical cowards.

>>4927239
just thought it was an artist lol

>>4927954
it is not political unless you make it so, retard
>>4928043
>Art can absolutely be political and have non-left (read: bad) takes
Hows your transition going, kike shill?

Fuck leftists honestly a bunch of loud, aggressive and authoritarian shitlords that want to police your thoughts, words and opinions. Nigger kike tranny

>>4927075
Good thread. I unfollowed like 5 artists this week because they would go on those long ass 3-5 tweet trains about some drama or politics. Didn't even read them, but I did check if their art is so good, I'd make an exception for them. It was all mediocre coomer shit. I wonder if they just got tired of getting same degenerate comments all the time.

>>4928087
>leftists want to police your thoughts and policing thoughts is bad
>leftist artists shouldn't post their political bullshit on twitter because their thoughts trigger me and i have the right to police that

never change crabs

>>4928074
Whoa, didn't you hear?! This guy is a zoomer1! 1!! How did you even type this with your little baby fingers? Your parents must be very proud in having such a very special little man. ^_^

>>4927075
I just hate the ""sarcastic"" smartass language in this site everybody uses. Makes me dislike anyone I follow regardless of their opinion/artwork

>>4928087
Enjoy losing the culture war, you sad, weird person

>>4927075
Not at all. I instantly unfollow all artists that get political. Left or right wing (but it's always left who am I kidding, this is twitter afterall). My feed is great, all art or discussion about art.

>>4928103
>mutilated children
>chemical psychosis
>commie gulags and police state
>social distrust and disunity
>rampant violence and danger
>illogical and emotional outbursts about the oppression-of-the-week controlling public discourse

This is what you call "winning"? That's your prize?

>>4927075
why is white pride worse than other kids of pride unless you are racist against white people?

>>4928109
>something something change definitions of words and terms to carefully exclude white people
>something something white people are culpable for the crimes of their ancestors but my people are not responsible for their own actions today

>>4928109
It isn't and they can never justify why other than shouting something about nazi's or raism or whatever

>>4927793

Good job ignoring the point, retard. If you socialized with human beings you'd get what I was talking about. I'm a millenial and I can critique my own generation as much as I'd like.

>>4928107
people like >>4928103 need to destroy beauty in order to create because inside they hate themselves but are too cowardly and weak for suicide so project it onto the world. That's how they rationalize their behavior.

>>4928096
Get a load of this boomer

>>4928050
they say it makes you more "relatable"

>>4928129
is that a fucking nokia flip phone photo of a #inspirational pinterest image using comic sans that ended up getting channeled thru an image aggregate website?

>>4928022
>Everything is political
are you going to say that drinking water is political, because your access to water were shaped by laws?

>>4927948
>Anons here get political all the time so why are those artists there not allowed to?

>>4928162
yes. and I found it here.

>>4928168
>are you going to say that drinking water is political, because your access to water were shaped by laws?
In a sense, yes. It is. Especially so in regards to city water (a public service), and especially so when your cities tap water supply is tainted because of a political failure to provide clean water for residents (for example, Flint, MI).

>>4928168
>flint, michigan
>lead in drinking water only banned bc of legislation that req it to be monitored and regulated
at least pick something less politicized than drinking water when you try to make a counterpoint

>>4928182
>>4928185

But isn't it a disingenuous argument tho? because it just means that drinking water is affected by politics. not that it is by itself a political statement or opinion.

>>4928036
>>art gets subverted and weaponized against whites
Maybe if whites didn't ruin art with calarts garbage and SJWism that wouldn't have happened retard. SJWism is rooted in post-enlightment simping by white men.

>>4928253
>calarts
>sjw
Now say something about California itself!

>>4927763
>all of it

>>4928309
This but unironically

>>4928244
>because it just means that drinking water is affected by politics
This in itself means something is inherently 'political', in my opinion. It's not necessarily disingenuous, but rather a perfectly valid perspective on what it means to be 'political'.

>>4927079
I agree with this. I hate artist that clog my Twitter feed with bullshit like that.

>>4927075
It's annoying yes. If I ever get fuck you money I'll do the same though. However I'll aim to piss off everyone with hot takes because just about everyone is fucking retarded.

>>4928339
>This in itself means something is inherently 'political'
yeah but it is not a political statement which was the complain.

>>4927133
Glad you understand. You know how to draw or paint however you're not qualified to talk about politics just like me speaking my mind about the stock market is stupid because I'm not an expert on this topic and lack crucial knowledge.
now draw and cope you self-centered zoomer, your "2 cent hot take" is irrelevant.

>>4928253
>whites
>calarts
>or any media "studio" for that matter

anon...

>>4928392
>something created in the past 3 years is responsible for the degradation of American art over several decades
Retard

>>4927218
any artist who is well read is probably not a great artist, all the ones with high follower counts are usually autistically busy drawing all day and only following political trends if anything at all

>>4928109
>White pride, or white power, is an expression primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations in order to signal racist or racialist viewpoints.[2][3] It is also a slogan used by the prominent post-Ku Klux Klan group Stormfront and a term used to make racist/racialist viewpoints more palatable to the general public who may associate historical abuses with the terms white nationalist, neo-Nazi, and white supremacist.

Amazing what a simple Google search can do.

>>4928536
A lot of artists on /ic/ are not that good and aren't well read so what does that say?

>>4927075
it's ultimately up to you to choose who you want to follow and not
my main when I want to follow an artist is that I look through the last week or so. if I see multiple political posts, I usually don't follow, regardless of whether or not I agree with them. if I follow you, I want to follow you for the art and not for your hot takes during an election year

>>4927127
>Freeze peach

Retarded lefty

>>4927195
>No u

Artist spouting their retarded political opinions shitting on deaths of people and acting like condescending dickwads (like you) are worthless and their opinions are worthless.

>>4927407
Good job anon

>>4927410
And here the deranged leftoid starts bringing up /pol/ for no reason.

>>4927763
>Everything is political
Objectively false redditard

>>4928043
The existence of political art does not mean all art is political or art itself is inherently political.

>non-left(read: bad) takes
Left wingers are this delusional

>>4927075
It doesn't bother me, they are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want with their account and platform. That being said, if they tweet things I don't want to see, I will unfollow. But that doesn't mean it bothers me, it just means its not what I signed up for, and they shouldn't care that I unfollow either, and probably don't.

>>4928006
That's not what a strawman is retard

>>4927107

>>4928611
>Cherrypicking: The Post

>>4928087
>it is not political unless you make it so, retard

We literally have a thread of people crying, screaming and complaining just because some artists made some popular characters Black even though it's just fucking fanart.

So yes, art is POLITICAL. It's been used for political purposes for years. Just, because you were too stupid to notice doesn't mean it never was.

>>4928016
>facebook memes on 4chan
Kill yourself.

>>4928018
>seeking attention
>4chan

this thread it's gonna die in two days and who's attention will i have gotten, yours?

>>4928616
Shut up faggot.

there's some based and cute artists out there

>>4928616
Not that anon but what a retarded point.

Basically because people use art for politics means that art is inherently political. It isn't dumbass. A drawing of a tree isn't political. Photorealistic drawings of people aren't political. There are plenty of narratives and stories that aren't political. Art isn't anything, it's a tool. And like any tool it can be utilized for different purposes, like politics.

What the "everything is political crowd" do I'd try to push the idea that "x" thing is inherently political in order to justify constantly shoving their retarded politics down everyone's throats. " "x" is always political which means that it's fine for me to insert my dumbass political opinions that no one wants the hear into everything". People don't want to hear politics all the time and they especially being want to hear it from retards on twitter.

Also people mocking tumblr refugees on twitter for making every character they can get their hands on into some black and/or fat version of that character (again) isn't "crying, screaming and complaining ". That's just the false way you're trying to frame it because you're buttmad.

>>4928616
>some people cry because some art
>therefore ALL ART MUST BE political

>>4928016
They are crybabies and they should be professional. No one wants to hear your retarded opinions or see some artist call half the country literally hitler.

>>4928626
based

>>4927075
What's wrong with the world today is that people don't listen to things they don't agree with.

>>4928050
>>scroll through the "media" page on twitter
>>Literally 95% of it is just reaction pictures from real life tv shows with hearts and emojis and crap added to them

twitter is such a horrible gallery for viewing art. how did it get so popular with artists?

>>4928627
>What the "everything is political crowd" do I'd try to push the idea that "x" thing is inherently political in order to justify constantly shoving their retarded politics down everyone's throats

Doing or being something that goes against what is considered the 'norm' is considered being political though. I mean you claim that their politics 'down your throat,' but are they? Or do you feel that way, because you don't agree with their politics?

It's unrealistic to think that art is created without politics involved. The art represents the artists' politics. Even something as simple as a drawing of a tree. Depending on how you represent it can get political, because a person's politics can affect the way it gets represented.

>>4928647
Most political shit essentially boils down to pic related and doesn't have any value

If what you're saying is along the lines of "everyone who doesn't agree with "y" statement is a terrible human and is irredeemable" there's no discussion bro be had. It's just an ultimatum.

>>4928545
/ic/ doesnt draw so it checks out

>>4928661
>Doing or being something that goes against what is considered the 'norm' is considered being political though.
No it isn't. That's such a broad representation of what is considered political. Everyone is drawing a certain art style and I go against the norm and draw a different one that's not political.

>I mean you claim that their politics 'down your throat,' but are they? Or do you feel that way, because you don't agree with their politics?
No they are, look at shit like marvel with "unsolicited opinions on israel", or the simpsons trump song. That's shoving politics down someone's throat, and ironically the only reason you're saying it's not is because you're in favor of those retarded politics and want it shoved down people's throats. It's politics that takes over the plot, is not subtle, is condescending, and blatantly one sided. Just like christian bible games other propoganda. The focus is so much on forcing a political message that the art suffers, because you think I setting a political message (of the right politics) is enough to qualify as good.

>It's unrealistic to think that art is created without politics involved.
No it isn't, lots of art is created without politics.

>The art represents the artists' politics. Even something as simple as a drawing of a tree. Depending on how you represent it can get political, because a person's politics can affect the way it gets represented.

Art does not inherently represent politics and you example misses the point. I gave the example if a photo realistic drawing of a person or a drawing of a tree. These are objective things that represents nothing but observed reality without subjective input.

You response with
>Depending on how you represent it
>Can
Those are the key points that you're not understanding, or refusing to acknowledge.

Just because something CAN be doesn't mean it is.

Basically
>Well the tree is not inherently political BUT IT CAN BE, THEREFOR ALL ART IS INHERENTLY POLITICAL

90% of the time Artist takes are cumbrain bullshit, no real surprise no one reads anymore and being skilled doesn't mean being all around smart or well read.

>>4928696
>>Art does not inherently represent politics and you example misses the point. I gave the example if a photo realistic drawing of a person or a drawing of a tree. These are objective things that represents nothing but observed reality without subjective input.

Any time you're drawing something it becomes subjective even if your goal is to touch some sort of objective reality, see this is the type of shit I'm talking about bottom of the barrel subterranean troglodyte takes. You're lucky artists are considered intellectuals

>>4928763
You really are a brainlet holy shit. You didn't even refute any of my points.

A drawing of a photo realistic apple, person or tree is an objective thing you retard.

>Subjective: based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

So yeah, you're wrong and retarded. Objective doesn't mean perfect. If you are drawing an person, to a photo realistic standard, there is an objective standard you are drawing from that is not subject to your personal opinions or believes. What's so hard to understand about that.

And the point still stands, just because there are instances of politics in art, doesn't mean that art is political. In your own example you have to twist and add shit to turn a drawing of a tree into a political statement, even though it's inherently not political it's a fucking tree.

You're jumping through so many leaps of logic "because a drawing is not perfect its subjective, because it's subjective it's subject to the artist personal opinions, because it's subject the artist personal opinions it's subject to their politics, therefor the tree they drew is political. That's the level of retardation you're on and it's built off of layers of false assertions and and assumptions. Even if something IS subjective that doesn't make it political, you'd have to include all opinions or ideas a person has under the umbrella of "politics" to make such an absurd statement.

The fact that you're calling anyone else a troglodyte or bringing up intellectuals is just sad irony.

>All art is political
I wish I could pack all of these pedantic weenies into a bus and drive it into the ocean

>>4928107
I do wonder how it feels to have a view of the world shaped entirely from what 10 second long videos and snippets of headlines have been force fed into your brain from the system designed to produce people like you with detached, narrow comprehensions of reality. The worst part is that in true Dunning Kruger fashion, you will never gain the skills necessary to even recognize how poorly you understand your environment.

>>4928888
>A drawing of a photo realistic apple, person or tree is an objective thing you retard.

I think that the problem even with this line of thinking is that realism is objective or exists within some kind art vacuum when it's not. I mean when you look back at the art of other cultures it's rare to find a 'realistic' drawing of an apple or tree similar to the ones you would find outside of European art. The question is why?

If photorealism is as objective as you claim than shouldn't those depictions have transcended cultures and time rather than being prevalent in one particular area and time period?

Remember then, photorealism really came to ahead in the 70s. Neo-classism was not about being 'photorealistic' but bringing out the beauty in subjects where photorealism is not.

>>4928936
>I think that the problem even with this line of thinking is thinking that realism is objective or exists within some kind art vacuum when it does not. When you look back at the art of other cultures it's rare to find a 'realistic' drawing/rendering of an apple or tree similar to the ones you would find during the renaissance era of European art.

>>4928894
everything is political. Literally that meme you posted is political. The fact that you think art is apolitical is itself political.
if you can't handle a few artists getting prissy just kys now lol

>>4928952
If "everything is political" then "political" doesn't mean anything.

>>4928763
>Any time you're drawing something it becomes subjective even if your goal is to touch some sort of objective reality

That's not how subjectivity works. Subjectivity is not a property imbued into a piece of art the minute it is made, it is a property of consciousness observing it's reality. Objectively the art piece is nothing more then a bunch of matter organized into a pattern the human mind can recognize, it has no inherently meaning outside of consciousness, same with politics. It's why the all art is political premise is flawed, what you really mean is all art can be interpreted as political which is a far stronger premise to argue from.

>>4928952
What's the political compass of furry inflation porn?

>>4927407
So unbelievably based

>>4928952
Looks like someone graduated from the school of Twitter, ready to embarrass himself.

>>4927075
No. You have the right to unfollow them

>>4928936
I would like to begin by stating your point is moot in the first place, because even if something is subjective, that doesn't make it political. Like I previously stated, you have to have an absurdly broad definition of what counts as "political" to make that.

Also you're mincing words. We're talking about "photo realism", not "realism" which you are conflating. You're bringing up examples of art that were not even referenced or pertinent to the discussion.

Other cultures not focusing on realism like the Europeans did has nothing to do with the objective skill of photorealistic drawing. European art of the rienesaunce was not photorealistic either, you know why? They didn't have fucking photos. "Photorealism" started in the 60's and picked up in the 70's.
So talking about photorealism not being objective because cultures in the past didn't have realistic depictions of things is retarded.

>If photorealism is as objective as you claim than shouldn't those depictions have transcended cultures and time rather than being prevalent in one particular area and time period?
This is a retarded point, a photo realistic drawing is objective in the sense it is not influenced by an artist personal beliefs or opinions by the definitions of subjective that has already been established.

The skill of drawing an apple to look 1 to 1 with a photo of the same apple has nothing to do with politics or personal opinion. It's also not up to interpretation as there are objective measurements and observations that can be made to that piece of art to determine if it adequately captures the subject piece to a photo realistic standard. This bullshit about "art from past cultures didn't have realistic drawings therefore photo realism isn't rooted in objectivity" is asinine and a complete non sequitur.

A photo realistic drawing, is not political. It's one of many examples of art that are non-political.

>>4928029
>"guys, drinking water is so not political"
>let's just ignore the water crisis in Michigan

>>4928952
>everything is political.
wrong
>Literally that meme you posted is political
wrong
>The fact that you think art is apolitical is itself political.
Is your definition of "political" anything opinion on anything. Me not liking bell peppers isn't political.

>>4928375
Who let you on the internet, grandpa?

>>4928593
>>4928583
And here the deranged /ic/els start calling people "leftoids" or "lefty". Does "SJW" not pack enough of a punch for you?

>>4929138
It I just type "wrong" with nothing to back me up, I win!

>>4927075
>pic related
Based

>>4929136
Those two things aren't related, what an idiotic leap of logic.

The act of drinking water isn't political. Just because somewhere is experiencing a drought or contaminated water supply, doesn't change that. Those issues are isolated problems to a specific time and place. And even within the context of that issue, the act of drinking water still isn't political. Just because there is an issue in one area about water, doesn't mean that every water related things are now political. And just because a political issue can arise around something, doesn't mean that that thing is inherently political by nature just because it now happens to be central to a modern or historical political debate.

>>4929136
News websites and channels living in your head rent free coloring all your life experiences is not the same thing as those life experiences being inherently political. You just have an undiagnosed mental problem.

>>4929142
I literally did provide a statement that disproved the first point.

I don't like bell peppers. That's not political. Thus your first point is wrong.

>>4929150
I could say the same thing to you about those "leftists" you screech about on an anonymous image board

>>4929152
Didn't know one-word rebuttals counted as statements

>>4929140
>hurr no u

>/ic/els
That doesn't even fully spell it out.
sp/ic/s
dyslex/ic/s
m/ic/ro d/ic/ks
at least try

>>4929159
So you're just going to completely ignore the part of my post that disproved yours even though I reiterated it for you.

>>4929163
"Wrong" is not a rebuttal no matter how much your smoothbrain wants it to be

>>4929165
>"Is your definition of "political" anything opinion on anything. Me not liking bell peppers isn't political."

You're a giant retard

>>4928654
few reasons:
- its a nice "one stop shop" where you can read about news and other topics youre interested in text and image form, whereas somewhere like ig is not great for that. its far easier to make posts about anything whenever as opposed to somewhere like ig.
-its less boomer tier than fb
-it has a somewhat aesthetic ui
-its just cleaner and easier to like and share stuff and see what other people you respect have liked

>>4928888
Literally Braindead post lmao, can't believe you took the time to write this shit out.

>>4929168
Yes

>>4929184
Yet you don't have anything of substance to say in rebuttal.

>>4929135
>I would like to begin by stating your point is moot in the first place, because even if something is subjective, that doesn't make it political.
We are talking about art being political and subjective. Literally, nothing else. I even believe that I mentioned that photorealism came to aheads in 70s as well so I'm not sure you repeated that.

>So talking about photorealism not being objective because cultures in the past didn't have realistic depictions of things is retarded.
Photos have been in existence since the freaking 1820s. Later down the road they became more accessible to more people, but photography itself has been a thing for a good long while. If this is the case then why did it take so long for photorealism to become an art movement? Were they waiting for the photos to become more detailed?

This is the context I think you are missing. Maybe you can argue that during this time photography was being used a lot in media and improved greatly, but that's still a really poor argument to explain why artists weren't doing it all the way back then. Yes, artists were being influenced by photography, but it really came in opposition to abstract expressionism. Also, this was the 60s, post WW2, the Vietnam War, the Civil Rights movement, the sexual revolution which define the 60-70s. So here comes photorealism and you really think it was just came into existence without any political motivation/inspiration by the artists who were working on that style at that time?

>>4929288

I guess since it's been about 50+ years since photorealism has become a thing all the social/political context is lost to the people who indulge in that style now. It's why you can come on here claiming that a photorealistic apple is just a photorealistic apple and nothing more. No different from people who wear Che Guevara shirts.

Because in all honesty, the argument isn't really about photorealistic apples. It's about if a visual depiction of something as simple as an apple can be considered political, at all. Whether it be through collage, recycled items, charcoal, colored pencil, and etc. Yes, it can.

>>4928952
This is true and the fact that these anons can't see it is sad.

>>4928543
there's a difference between "stop saying white people are inherently evil, bad or wrong because of their skin color, there's lots of different types of white people and id appreciate it if you stopped putting me into your dumb, conspiratorial and limited categories while in college and the professional workplace, thanks. also, saying 'kill whitey' is indeed racist."
and
"white power!!! i love hitler!!!".
if i said the former statement, id get dragged as a "white supremacist" even though it is a perfectly valid statement.
but what am i doing, this is /ic/.

>>4929140
>still seething because his opinion is irrelevant
kek, just cope

>>4929170
also forgot to mention that twitter is sort of like an mmo in that it doesnt technically have to be the best mmo that people want to play, but the most popular. there are sites that are better than twitter, but twitter has the numbers and until that changes, twitter will likely be a place artists go in addition to ig

>>4929382
Of course you love hitler, you white supremacist nazi chud

>>4928763
>something is subjective even if it is objective
i hope you fall feet first into a wood chipper

>>4928611
>Concept of white didn’t even exist in the Roman Empire
>Actively thought of what would be current western Europeans as savages

We wuz emperors an sheit

>>4927075
Closeminded? yes. I normally don't give a fuck if an artist has extreme left or right wing views. It's their life, they live it for them, as you would for yourself. I mostly follow on insta though so I can see how on twitter it could be more annoying. It's your choice, don't feel bad for unfollowing if you don't agree with it.

>>4929383
>"kek" in 2020
>no pepe
If you're trying to "own the libs", at least put some effort into your shitposts, kid ;)

>>4927075
generally I follow artists for their art, I won't mind if they speak their mind every once in a while but if for every piece they draw they start to rant about issues that are in no way related to the art and are not something I could realistically find a point in reading I will probably unfollow even if I agree with the issue.

>>4927075
I believe that artists have every right to do whatever they want with their accounts. if they want to post art along with their political tweets, then that is their prerogative. However I personally would, and have already unfollowed artists if they make tweets that I disagree with politically. Mostly because I browse other people's art online as a form of escapism along with finding inspiration, if I see tweets from an artist that upset me it grounds me back to thinking about real life shit, which I hate. So I suppose it's close-minded yeah, but eh.

>>4929288
>We are talking about art being political and subjective. Literally, nothing else.

We are talking about weather or not Art is inherently political. That is the subject matter and don't try to twist it. It's a moot point about weather not art is inherently subjective or not, because a thing being subjective does not make it inherently political.

> I even believe that I mentioned that photorealism came to aheads in 70s as well so I'm not sure you repeated that.
Because you conflaited realism with photo realism and talked about past cultures which have nothing to do with photo realism.


You're talking about all of this irrelevant shit about the history and origins of "photorealism" as a movement which isn't relevant at all in the modern day. You're acting like some art student only thinking of "photorealism" as the artistic movement and not as a type of art style, drawing something to a photo realistic standard.

A person drawing a photo-realistic apple today has nothing to do with the politics that may or may not have spawned the movement. People mostly do it to show off artistic skill, to make something of such high quality it looks like a photo.

You're basically missing the point entirely and going off onto this irrelevant tangent.

A photo realistic drawing of an apple, is not inherently political. It's an objective piece where you take what you see and try to replicate it to such a high degree it looks like a picture. There's no politics involved in that process inherently. It's objective( not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.) art. It either looks like the subject, or it doesn't. The same is true for any drawn from life art piece that an artist does for practice or leaser. Looking at an object from life, and just drawing it as you see it is not political. If I look over to my dresser and decide to draw it it's the same, not political. Just an objective representation of reality.

>>4929288
>>4929644
cont:

So no, art is not inherently political as there are non political forms of art with objective standards not influenced by personal feelings.

You're making this argument that because there might be political reasons coming to prominence in the time period it did, that makes the style political, despite that all of the politics of the era that may have spurred the movement are not relevant at all today and have nothing to do with people making photorealistic art now. Because "the movement" and "the style" are distinct entities.

>>4929291
>It's about if a visual depiction of something as simple as an apple can be considered political, at all. Whether it be through collage, recycled items, charcoal, colored pencil, and etc. Yes, it can.

I think the key word here is "Can". CAN someone make a piece of a of art that's just an apple political. You CAN politicize lot's shit. But that doesn't make the subject matter inherently political. There's nothing inherently political about a picture of an apple, you have to politicize it. If I draw a picture of a landscape that I like, for the purpose of viewing it, or I try drawing a pose I'm not comfortable with in order to improve my art, neither of those things are political. The example of the photo realistic apple is just one example of a from of non-political artwork. As it's not the context of whatever history lead to the style that makes it political, but the message the Artist decides to make if any.

If I draw a photorealistic bowl of fruit, it's just that, a bowl of fruit I drew for the intention of being look as realistic as possible. I'd have to do more to it than just drawing what I'm looking at to make it political.

>>4927191
Wtf what about putting food on the table?

>>4929482
You... Believe 'kek' is exclusively a right wing meme?

>>4929482
>he doesn't know
kek

>>4929382
>Whites put everyone else into conspiratorial and limited categories all the time
>Someone else does it to Whites.
>WAH!!!11 Don't do it to me it's not fair!!!

>>4927075
If I'm going to follow an artist it's for their art, not their politics.
If you bring in your politics you've already started downplaying your art and your professionalism, I will not subscribe to anybody that posts political shit.
Just make a personal account for that while keeping your art one focused on art.
Even if I very much disagree with your politics if you make good art I can respect that and appreciate it but not if I have to constantly see you politics, it's just not worth following someone then.

>>4929711
>damn, a few people are really shitty... i guess i better do the exact same thing to a bunch of other unrelated people that'll really make things better

>>4929711
Why are you here?

>>4929482
>thinking "kek" has anything to do with politics, pepe or right wing garbage
idiot.

>>4929711
>whites have a thing
>non-whites: "WHY ARE YOU EXCLUDING US WE CAN DO THAT BETTER YOU SHOULD BE BANNED FROM DOING IT NOOO WE WILL NOT INTEGRATE U HAVE NO CULTURE AAAAAAH WORSHIP US LOVE US BASED ON THE COLOR OF OUR SKIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
non whites are pretty patethic

>>4928593
You have fucking JQ posting in the thread. But nah man /pol/ is never on other boards polluting threads with retarded screeching.

>>4929801
What the fuck is JQ? Go back where you came from you obsessive faggot.

>>4928094
I never said that leftists should be prosecuted or their businesses or careers ruined because they voice their opinions. But if a rightwinger says something contradictory to the current DiVeRsiTy RuLeS and globohomo agenda then they are crucified by the raving leftist mobs

>>4927075
White pride is the only pride that makes sense. We did everything. Everyone else did nothing. I don't understand this person's view.

>>4928911
you are projecting. If anything, the current media machine and propaganda are ALL more or less left-leaning. So do not talk about snippets and pre-canned opinions since most people get their views ideas and opinions from the loudest and quickest offerer of news / opinions, which is the media corporations, which almost all have a leftwing bias, which are all owned by the jews

>>4927075
If I only ever see your SUPPORT BLACK ARTISTS ANTI TRUMP posts and never see art, I'm going to unfollow you

>>4928411
It uncovers a pattern you idiot

>>4929801
oh wow do not dare talk about the fact that disproportionately large parts of congress, the news outlets, hollywood, music production, legislative system are jewish owned and jewish operated. fuck off you willfuly blind cucks make me sick

>>4929809
Not that anon, but "JQ" means the Jewish Question : "The Jewish question, also referred to as the Jewish problem, was a wide-ranging debate in 19th- and 20th-century European society that pertained to the appropriate status and treatment of Jews. The debate, which was similar to other "national questions", dealt with the civil, legal, national, and political status of Jews as a minority within society, particularly in Europe during the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries."
In modern times it basically has to do with the conspiracy that pol / nazis / alt righters believe that jews control the world in a similar way as "the illuminaty", and have the agenda of exterminating "the white race", while ignoring the fact that they having so much control over different things could have a far simpler answer like: their culture and religion being centered around community and helping fellow jews.
Some of them take it to more extremes saying they are demons in human forms etc. The point is the Jewish question always ends, as history has shown us, with "The Final Solution" which is that Jews should be exterminated.

See, here is an example of one of them implying they control the world. >>4929972

>>4929975
What are the odds that you're actually jewish?
But hey, i'm just a filthy gentile who should work like the cattle he is, so i'm sorry for questioning your superiority, massa.

>>4929948
pride of any kind is shit because "we" doesnt include you, you were brought into a world built by people who have nothing to do with you other than similar genetics by a cosmic chance. this applies to the dumb twitter niggers too who try to profit off the sins of our grandfathers

>>4929982
>What are the odds that you're actually jewish?
0, I'm a spic, mexican, raised catholic, and I have my beautiful foreskin intact (unlike you since you are probably a burger).

>>4927075
absurd. politics is a wider range of issues than black or white.

>>4929999
>mexican
>catholic
>calls the jq a pol conspiracy theory
>tries to shame others with muh foreskin
Nice try, jew.
Next thing you're going to tell me that the media isn't biased.

>>4929999
come on anon, here in mexico its common knowledge that the JQ is valid. the closer you are to the capital, the more obvious it becomes.

>>4929975
stop acting all intellectual and mighty, you can't even spell illuminati correctly. my point still stands, your dumbed down definition of the jewish question is arbitrary, they hold key positions of power in finance, pharmacy, legislative branches, hollywood etc and are actively working on undermining whites and their culture and their achievements all around the world. Look at the torah or read The protocols of the elders of zion. Dumb shabbos goy

>>4929999
post nose

>>4927407
artist I know recently had a shitfit on twitter after the debate. his audience is mostly young adult and a teenage girl replied that she was disappointed in seeing him be uncivil. not only did he pile on her, some other artist with a following joined in. so fucking disgusting. and I can only see things getting worse in the coming years. genuinely considering expatriating before things heat up worse.

>>4930017
Never said the jews can't be scummy cunts, that still doesn't mean there is a big conspiracy against " muh white people".
>>4930010
>>4930020
Absolutely NGMI, no one this obsessed about some big nosed greedy guys will ever be successful, so give up now and become a wage slave.
>intellectual and mighty, you can't even spell illuminati correctly
Didn't know misspelling a meme word in my second language made me less "intellectual", good to know.
>>4930021
My nose is probably "whiter" than yours burger.

>>4930039
I want to rub that nose

>>4930039
english is not my native language as well. And just as I thought, you are a kid..

>>4930063
I'm 25...

>>4929987
based

>>4928598
your view on this subject sounds political..

>>4930039
>literally a kid being fucking autistic and posting his face for attention
the absolute state of this board

>Ruling elite Jews successfully divide a nation by telling whites to unironically hate themselves and telling blacks that they’re opprssed causes retarded kids to go and destroy neighborhoods this fueling an”civil war”
Kek

>>4930080
>>4930063
>kid
If you retards think that having a beautiful nose and eyelashes means you are a kid you should reread your loomis books.
Also, kids normally can't have such bushy eyebrows, you would know if you actually knew how to draw faces; now go to where /pol/ belongs: >>4928702 maybe you can learn how to draw your foreskins back.

>>4929948
>White pride is the only pride that makes sense. We did everything.
your retarded words just shows that everything they do is right. because how shitty self-centerd of a faggot "white straight male" is.
kys

>>4928050
That's because you're looking at art in the feed of a social media.

>>4927075
Theyre right tho

>>4928022
(You)

>>4928036
Take your meds /pol/nigger.

>>4929382
That message doesn't come across as genuine when what immediately follows that is "black/brown/asian people don't really experience racism", "People aren't really racist", "that stuff happened a long time ago" and just the general ignorance of the role that western countries had in destroying/subverting almost every culture and accompanying nation on earth.

I can't speak for all people, but anyone with a brain gets tired of hearing the same old shit. Also it gets real tiring hearing people constantly yell nigger at the top of their lungs then swear up and down their not racist.

Rememeber kids, if someone says "everything is political", then that means you're talking to an extremist.
To an extremist, everything IS polittical, because to them anything that isn't in dupport of their extreme views is in opposition to those views. To them, NOT making a political statement affirming their beliefs is a statement opposing those beliefs.
To an extremist, moderates are the enemy.

>>4930345
People on the internet say nigger because people like you make it clear it bothers them.

>>4930355
>People on the internet say nigger because people like you make it clear it bothers them.
That wasn't the point I was making you mongrel. You can't say your not racist if every chance you get, you yell nigger. You know what connotations it has and who its associated, You wouldn't yell nigger at people if you didn't at least have an unconscious belief that they're inferior.
Also, I've never met a person that uses nigger in their regular speech that has black friends.

>>4930352
>Rememeber kids
truth bomb right there, thank you mr anon

>>4930381
Why do you link nigger to black people?
When an anon calls another anon a faggot, he doesn't imply that he is a flamboyant homosexual.
Are you perhaps a racist bigot, you inbred niggerfaggot?

>>4930039
UwU cute nose

>>4930394
kek, this is exactly what I mean. Don't expect anyone to not just call you a evil privileged white man if you're going to pretend to be that much a disingenuous, sub 80 IQ mongrel.

>>4930394
>why do you link a known racists word to the people it's been historically used against
at least try to sounds smart the next time

>>4930403
>mongrel
Woah anon, don't you know that's a racial slur?

>>4930407
All you needed to do was ask, anon.

>>4930404
>at least try to sounds smart

>>4930410
What's the problem? Using a racial slur is wrong regardless of context, right?

>>4930412
>Putting words in my mouth, misrepresenting my point and feigning retardation
8/10, baited me for 4 replies.

>>4930418
Oh, you want me to use your actual words?

>You can't say your not racist if every chance you get, you yell nigger. You know what connotations it has and who its associated, You wouldn't yell nigger at people if you didn't at least have an unconscious belief that they're inferior.

Those are your words. Those are your words that claim just using the word means you're racist. You are using a racial slur too, so by your own words, you are racist.

>>4930411
yes, I made a small typo writing that, does it make what I said any less true? no? then don't change the subject.

>>4930438
If you make a typo while calling someone stupid, you had better believe you're going to get shit on for it.
Take your L and move on.

>>4930403
Nah man, you're just racist.
You're trying to hide your skeletons in the closet because you think of different people as lesser than your race or creed.
Is negro a racist word? Is Nigeria a racist word? Is Niger a racist word? Is black a racist word?
Maybe less mental gymnastics, more actual thinking, retard
>>4930404
>used against
Never heard of:
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."?

Policing language is policing thought.
Man can't think if you forbid them the use of certain words.
Also how do i sound smart? I have my volume at 100 but i don't hear you whining like the flamboyant aids ridden homosexual you are.

>>4930450
I called you stupid because your argument was stupid, do you also question why somebody would think american if somebody said gringo?

>>4930500
>I called you stupid
No you didn't, you called the other anon stupid. I just made fun of your typo.

>>4930463
You are free to scream every known insult in your language like a 10 year old with tourette, but it won't free you from the consequences, that it makes you angry does not make it any less true.

>>4930428
>Still misrepresenting my point
You /pol/nigger are so low IQ, it must be some cosmic joke by god that you've plagued literally all corners of the internet. I'll spell it out, even use reddit spacing to make it clear.

My point was that (You) can't say you are not racist, if at every opportunity you yell nigger.

You can't say its simply to get a rise out of people when the very word represents the idea that black people are inferior, its weight operates on that idea that's been reinforced for centuries.

You also literally prove my point from my original post >>4930345 with your post here >>4930394 That (You) being a disingenuous faggot, removes any sincerity from (You) or anyone else claiming that their not racist.

Also I never claimed I wasn't racist. I fucking hate you cave niggers that think no one has any right to be upset when people across the world have been subject to your backwards ideology and barbarism. Then you have fucking shit for brains, autist like >>4930463 trying to say nigger isn't a racial slur and putting up a army of strawmen to try to prove his stupid fucking point.

My grandmother lived through the race riots in 1950 and 60s. My father grew up in a state where he couldn't go outside after dark from fear of being beaten to death by white supremacist. I've been called a nigger and spat at before.

You can't sit here and tell me nigger doesn't mean what it means.

>>4930528
I posted your exact words, sperg.

>>4929987
can you call it cosmic chance or cosmic fate . a black baby isnt born to a white family by chance.

>>4930545
the baby rolled a dice that it had no consent to

>>4930544
Okay anon. Nice refutations of my point

>>4929011
sexually liberal
>>4929138
>the meme about a chinese neo-imperialist guy complaining about african incompetence is not political

>>4930511
What consequences?
So, does that mean that if i use the """"wrong words"""" i could jeopardize my safety?
Words have no power over me because they're just words.
> that it makes you angry does not make it any less true
You hear my posts and now you also know how i feel?
Damn, this is some strong voodoo niggetry at work.
>>4930528
Words aren't racist. Get over it, nigger.

>>4930572
If words don't have meaning, then how are we communicating?

>>4930557
I'm not interested in arguing with an over-emotional retard.

>>4930581
>meaning is synonymous with power over people

>>4930581
>he lets words rule over him
fuck me, negro.
I'm a foreigner in my current country and you don't even know how i've been treated and all the insults i've been called, but i don't go around crying, killing my own people and burning stores down.
Or literally trying to police the language and thoughts of others.
You're just fucking pathetic if you let some retards keep you down just because words offend you.
Do you even banter with your friends? Or does it escalate to violence the moment you trigger the insecurity of the other?
Boy, you niggers are a fucking joke.

>>4930584
You've have no argument retard. I blew you the fuck out from the get go and all you had was misinterpreting my points like a butt hurt female.
>>4930590
>Power over people is only physical and ideas and meaning don't affect people physiologically.
Someone doesn't understand the power of memes.
>>4930604
The only person thats pathetic here is (You) if your argument boils down "haha your dumb and insecure nigger!". Calling someone retarded for making hypocritical claims is not policing language dummy.

>>4930622
Because you are pathetic.
Your whole point is that people shouldn't speak freely because words offend.
You are trying to justify policing language while absolving yourself of this sin by
>BUT IS NOT POLICING LANGUAGE
and you're guilty of the same memes you speak of.
You are ignorant of the bigger picture. You don't even want to think what's beyond your ego because how you feel right now is better to what your retardation might cause.

If we go by your twisted logic; your existence offends me, gtfo my board
Or is it rules for thee but not for me?

>>4930622
Retard.

>>4930642
>Your whole point is that people shouldn't speak freely because words offend.
>You are trying to justify policing language while absolving yourself of this sin by
That was never my point. Real funny that your preaching about not seeing past your own ego when your simply relating me to some other SJW rhetoric because it sounds similar. This why I call you /pol/niggers low IQ, because you always invent new strawmen instead either because its to hard to refute the argument or you have reading comprehension problems

>>4930572
Well, if there are no consequences then what the fuck are you even complaining for in the first place??

>>4930654
What is there to argue?
You want people to stop using words because they offend and i'm against it because free speech is a human right and the word policing is usually a oppressive tactics to stop people from questioning and talking about things, which usually ends up benefitting oppressing governments.
Your argument is already wrong on itself and you keep just patting yourself on the back.
>b-b-but im not a sjw pinky swear
Why does saying nigger make me a racist then?
(you)s have no value to me
come and get as many as you want
>>4930680
First i sound dumb, then i am angry, now i'm complaining.
Jeez, anon-kun, why don't you just agree with yourself on my behalf?

>>4930716
>You want people to stop using words because they offend and i'm against it because free speech is a human right and the word policing is usually a oppressive tactics to stop people from questioning and talking about things, which usually ends up benefitting oppressing governments.
Are you actually fucking stupid? How many time do I have to state that's not my intention or point? Kill yourself you fucking monkey.

>>4930716
>First i sound dumb, then i am angry, now i'm complaining.
Jeez, anon-kun, why don't you just agree with yourself on my behalf?
It's like you can be many things at once, specially if you keep being purposefully obtuse, wow!

>>4930716
Also If you have the right to say nigger and then try to argue that its not racist, I have just as much of a right to call you a retarded mongrel that needs to stop wasting oxygen.

>>4930745
Yes anon, that is how free speech works. No one is telling you to stop saying mongrel.

>>4930720
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>>4930745
>we say one thing but if you point it out and we say it's the opposite we're right because we can't be wrong
Nice arguments, niggertachi.

>>4930758
And no one was telling you to stop saying nigger retard. Just don't pretend the word isn't racist or you're not racist.

>>4930654
>your

>>4930761
No one is calling you racist for saying mongrel. You're really bad at this.

>>4930761
But words cannot be racist.

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@4930760
Not even worth a (You). Guess /pol/ niggers literally can't read and think obfuscating words of their meaning, wins arguments.

>>4930760
>i answer everyone with the same answer even if said answer has nothing to do with half the things you are attempting to respond to
and then you wonder why other anons are calling you a monkey

>>4927079
twitter isn't an art platform, unfollow, get good at your own art and stop bitching

>>4930785
>imagine being this assblasted that you believe that (you)s are worth anything
>muh pol boogeyman haha low iq checkmate bigots
>>4930796
They offend me so i win.

>>4927352
>I got fucking cancelled LMAO
This is embarassing. You're 30, unemployed and got told to shut up by random people online. You didn't get "cancelled".

>>4927075
>Does it bother you when an artist gets political?
i just kind of ignore,
you're setting yourself up to have a stressful life if you have to dictate what you like or not through those lens.

>>4930219
You mad trannoid?
>>4929987
Stop being a beta, for real. Race is the most important thing to anyone's identity. Whites are the only ones who pretend that's not true. It's the reason they're gonna go extinct.

What the fuck happened to this thread?

I miss grilled kambing
Though his opinions didn't come through as much since he made porn of all convictions, like pic rel

>>4930792
meant for
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