/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4919557
How do I make eyes look at you like this? I don't get how you can control where the eyes are looking especially anime eyes with all the inner parts that don't seem to correspond to a spherical eye, but an oval one.

>>4919562

Let's say you are doing a longer study/bargue plate or something like that. Is overlaying digitally to check for accuracy considered cheating? Is it a form of tracing? Is it missing the point of the study? I'm doing bargue plates digitally but I feel like I'm cheating when I overlay my drawing on the plate to check for accuracy and correct lengths and angles.

>>4919562

>>4919573
It's not cheating, overlaying it is a very easy way to check for accuracy. If you're actually talking about the barque plates then the point is to get a 1:1 copy with no deviation, it has to be *exact*. The only way to check this is to overlay your drawing on top. As long as you don't trace the plate to fix your mistake then you aren't cheating.

>>4919574
Good post. Where is this from?

>>4919628
https://lackadaisy.foxprints.com/exhibit.php?exhibitid=333

>>4919557
There's already a thread for this >>4914230

Is it true that 2 hours per day is not enough to progress? And one
Should rather have different hobby than waste time ?

Lets say i want to draw something, what if i do not have the reference i want/need or the reference doesnt suit the angle lighting clothing body type etc. I legit dont know what to do. Anytime ive tried to deviate from a reference the drawing looks like shit because i dont know how its suppose to work. What should I try to do? Like i have a hard time trying to draw a shoe in an angle that would make sense if i just changed the position of the leg. Or try to take a model and just change the clothing to match the character i was trying to draw.

>>4919557
How do I render exactly like this Bros???

>>4920427
No, that's absolutely not true. Two hours a day is great, especially if it's two hours of focussed, specific practice.

>>4919557
would posting the same picture on different sites be considered spammy? should I keep sketches on twitter and finished works on deviantart?

>>4921583
you only make it in social media by being spammy

>>4919557
I remember watching a hentai artist using autodesk maya but my cellphone died.
Any of you know about him? i`ve been searching that stuff in rule an e- but i can`t find him.
Was it animated? thanks in advance

How do I get better at observational sketching,do you have an exemple of roadmap other than "just draw bro"?

>>4921630
right side of the brain for observational sketching

I need to learn how to draw hands in a construction way. Any recommendations for tutorials/tips on that? Ultimately want to draw hands from imagination but I need somewhere to start.

>>4921624
ok, i finally found him...i think

Should I take Animation or Concept art/Visual development in Art school.

Is LAS still a thing here? I remember a couple server crashes and W trolling us all a few years ago and gave up on whatever its successor was. Is there anything like that today?

>>4921768
It's the /dad/ thread

My art desk is extremelely uncomfortable to draw in. I can't place my legs on the floor and I can't put my elbow on the desk, so I have to use only my wrist to draw. Is there anyway I can change this, or do I even need to change it?

So CSP randomly paused and has been loading for a while now. What the hell do I do? Wait it out? I can't do shit in CSP with this bugger running and I'm worried that it's gonna end up closing my canvases and destroy my drawings, but I don't want to mess with and close CSP myself since the result of losing art will be the same.

>>4922255
Is your internet okay? Sometimes the cloud sync acts up.

>>4922258
My internet is working fine, should I try disconnecting and then reconnect?

>>4922255
CSP autosaves stuff by default so you should only lose a few minutes of progress at worst, unless you disabled it, that is.

>>4919573
Why does it matter?

>>4922281
Yeah I got it on, I forcefully closed CSP and booted it up again and my drawings thankfully turned out fine; so crises averted.

do you sometimes just trust the process even though it doesn't make any sense to you ?
I'm having a hard time understanding light/shadow and how to work to paint digitally.
i did and overviews of the course X but it doesn't look like what i need to paint Y. but the instructor says otherwise, that in order to do paint what I want I need to learn this.

>>4919557
how to get rid of this when drawing? i have a lower opacity white background on top of my reference image.

>>4922748
>tracing?

>>4922752
I don't understand. Yes I'm breaking down heads if that is what you mean.

>>4922748
?? you erased some of the white layer on top and you can see underneath ?? paint it back to white ? are you simple?

>>4920427
I do 4 but this shit still not enough of practice.

Right, this is driving me crazy, I cannot find the answer and my brain ain't attuned enough to observe from real life

Assuming it flesh or similar material, if this ball was coloured and on a coloured surface:
Which part of this ball would have the most saturation under regular sunlight or indoor lighting? >The area receiving the most light?
>the terminator because of subsurface scattering tinting the light leaving the surface?
>The shadow because of bounced light of the same colour intensifying the tones?
>the highlight/reflections (not this one because the light is neutral/white, but would this be the case if the light was coloured, sorry to add another question)

This makes me feel really dumb

>>4922875
Highest saturation as in area with the highest intensity of colour?

>>4922875

No, In general the halftones would be most saturated.

>>4922896
Yes, highest saturation aka chroma
>>4922899
Why is this? Do you have any paintings or photos that demonstrate this in action?

>>4922862
Isn't that kind of... inconvenient?

>>4919573
It shows you how far off your margin of error is.
1/1 is almost impossible without very careful measuring, but you're really trying to get good at informed judgements and freehanding it til you achieve a good likeness, since this is likely how you'll draw and paint other things.

If you overlay and it's way off, you need to keep trying at the early stages, the lay-in. If you have a repeat error like too long mid faces or small hands, commit that to memory and work to stop making the same mistake. If a form is unclear on your drawing because you've copied it poorly without understanding, redo it after figuring it out using other ref/plates. But don't get autistic about 100% photocopier accuracy

Lose this notion of "cheating". If you're trying to improve, get the most info and value out of it any way possible, dissect the plate and absorb it. You're not going to show these to anyone (I hope), so there's no "honour" or "cheating".

In fact, tracing can be a great tool to see how fucked up your brain's interpreting software is - you can see how much you corrupt and warp things when relaying them to paper by checking against the original. Just don't get obsessed by achieving accuracy, that's for machines not thinking feeling humans.

>>4922927
Draw your linework on another layer. That way you're free to erase the lines as you please without cutting holes in the white. If you want to work on one layer, use white with the paint brush to cover up your mistake lines, instead of erasing

First time using digital, huh?

>>4922748
nigga just lower the opacity of your ref layer and draw your lines in a new layer on top
wtf are you doing with a white layer overlay?
>>4922927
definitely not any more inconvenient that whatever you're doing

>>4922899
I've heard halftones as the most saturated is a misconception from photographs being poorly post processed and white balanced that made its way to painting, but I may be wrong

>>4922940
>>4922950
I've drawn digitally for 6 months I'm just a retard but thank you anyways.

>>4923121
then what have you been doing for 6 months anon?

>>4922875
First of all, shadows will always be less saturated. You can only see colour when there's light, that's why dimmer lights make everything more gray.
I'd say halftones are the most saturated because:
1) saturation darkens value. Very light areas can't have too much saturation
2) Subsurface scattering, as you said, but only applies to strong lighting situations
Highlights and reflections can't be saturated BC (1) and reflected light is always weaker, so it'll only carry a small amount of colour
You can have high chroma light areas if the light source is very strongly tinted, but that means the lights on that situation have a relatively dark value (agains, halftones)

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm interested too

>>4923140
I've been drawing almost everyday, no joke. I just haven't tried that method of breaking down the head. I'm kind of stubborn when training drawing, I like to focus on one think at a time and kind of grind it so I haven't really played around with the software.

>>4923208
>>4922875
Lurking these to be informed
Understanding this stuff leads for very good art capabilities
I’m sure you guys have seen this short series too, but I’ll link it anyway in case https://youtu.be/xcCJ2CU-bFw by Marco Bucchi, I plan to rewatch it soon, he basically walks you through observation and what makes the art good

>>4923342
Well, just keep at it anon! Its funny how you have pretty developed drawing skills and a great attitude to learning but you made such a babby's-first-digital mistake, haha. Keep on working at it anon, GMI!

>>4923208
Wow, thank you for this good explanation. Do you have any photos or pieces of art that shows these things?

should i just straight up loosely trace portraits for insta likes

which one of you faggots did this?

>>4923597
vectorize them that will make them look more professional

I'm not sure if this is the correct thread for this, but what are some good or the best western artists to study from? Or just in general, what are your western artists recs?
I ask this because I'm a weeb and I really need to look up to something different if I want my art to improve. I like Leyendecker, Sargent and Manet, but I don't know many more besides the old masters.

>>4923597
?? why are insta likes so important to you?

How do I get over the fact I still suck at drawing and likely won't get any better?

Why do poeple say you can draw alot of shit if u can draw a cube in perspective? it doesnt cover how shit relates to other shit or depth. I mean a cube in isolation doesnt cover everything

>can draw
>can't paint for shit no matter what I try
Any way to fix this?

>>4922875
It depends on the lighting conditions and local color, but the terminator and midtones should both be highly saturated for white skin. The ambient light in the shadow could be highly saturated, provided the source of ambient light is of a similar hue to the local color.

>>4923208
>shadows will always be less saturated
Not so. It all depends on the environment. If the ambient light is complementary or close to complementary to the local color of the object, then yes, the shadows will get desaturated. And if you are actually using your nightvision in a dark area, then yes, everything will approach grey, because your rod cells cannot really distinguish color.

>1) saturation darkens value
This could be said to be true, depending on what you mean by 'value', but is isn't strictly speaking true. If you mean the perceptual value of a color, then yeah you could say in certain circumstances, increasing saturation decreases value, but with the way these terms are generally used, saturation and value are two separate parameters.

>Highlights and reflections can't be saturated
Also not true. In nature, highlights tend not to be saturated because in nature light is very white. If you were casting a pure red light on a scene, you would have saturated red highlights, for instance.

>and reflected light is always weaker
This is technically true in that everything absorbs and/or refracts light a little bit, but it isn't quite how you mean it. In the case of reflections and specular highlights, most of the light is actually being reflected, which means the the color will be extremely close to the color of the light source.

Light and color are excessively complicated, so sorry if some or all of this post was unclear.

>>4923424
Post above already recommended Marco Bucci's videos, he'll also mention some artists. You can search for photos in different lighting conditions and find out how colour usually appears, no need of anything special. In art is a bit more complicated since you can make stylistic choices to saturate or desaturate certain places

>>4924880
Yes I guess there are exceptions but weaker light tends to create weaker colours.

>saturation and value are two separate parameters
When you work in gray scale your values have to be lighter/darker for different colours to be appear saturated (like red and yellow)

>If you were casting a pure red light on a scene, you would have saturated red highlights, for instance
Yes, that's true, but a red lights highlights would bring down the actual value to a halftone since red is inherently a dark value. But I guess there are exceptions too, I just haven't encountered them yet so I generalised a lot

>In the case of reflections and specular highlights
By reflected light I meant bounce light from the ambient, which only shows in shadows. But you're correct in your statement

Alright, I'll take advantage of me being lucid, guys I have no idea what to do know, I've realized that I barely know anything due to certain things. I only know how to practice ovals, circles, lines and a half assed gesture + loomis, this is not good at all, I should be doing way more and I tried practicing eyes (getting ahead of myself, guilty) only to find that I know jack shit about it.
I'll make sure to write this down so I don't forget, what do I need again if I'm being serious about this?
Dynamic Sketching? Fun With a pencil? Drawabox? How many pages a day?
I've been horribly inefficient

Anyone have any idea when CSP will do their 50% off sale again? I missed it a few months ago and I didn't know if it was a once-yearly thing or if they might offer it again during the holidays or something

>>4925514
Last year they did one near the end of oct and early nov iirc
It’s definitely will go on sale between now and early dec

Am I supposed to use the same brush for the entire piece for it to look good? How many different brushes do you guys use?
What Im worried about is bad habits and making different parts of the drawing look like its in completely different styles.

>>4924694
I'm beg, but I've been doing a thing that helped me so much, just stick with two colors, light and dark.

>>4925514
>>4925540
It was like 2 weeks ago..

When going through courses that are structured as Days/Weeks, do you guys every complete multiple days at a time? Multiple weeks within a single week?

Sometimes the Assignments really aren't that big anyway. I know it can make sense to get rest, and space it out so it really sinks in with proper muscle memory, but I'm also looking to improve ASAP and have more time than usual right now.

>>4919557
Why was the /lsg/ deleted? I can't access the archives because warosu is down or something

Is it normal to take longer to finish drawings the more I improve?
Last one took me 2 weeks.

>>4926348
Only if it's because you're actually putting "more" into them.

If you're just redrawing the same lines more often, that should be getting better over time.

>>4926351
I draw the sketch in one day but then I get obsessed with the lineart and try to redraw every part until I'm happy with it.

Can someone tell me why gesture drawing matters?

>>4926519
oftentimes appeal comes from abstract compositional elements. Gesture is a way of controlling or plotting the underlying design of something in a cohesive way.

>>4924993
>When you work in gray scale
I think this is a major part of your confusion on this topic. There isn't one specific 'grayscale' but rather there are many different ways to map a color image to s grayscale one. The one you are probably most familiar with, for instance, is the default Photoshop grayscale, which does not map black and white to the 'value' parameter as specified by Photoshop.

>red lights highlights would bring down the actual value to a halftone
Again, not strictly true. This depends highly on how you are defining value.

>which only shows in shadows
That's not exactly right either. All lighting conditions in the environment contribute to colors you see. Bounced light and ambient light are MOST NOTICEABLE in the shadows, but they do still have a minor effect on midtones. The reason you don't notice this effect is because direct light has a much larger impact, but by definition has no impact on the shadows.

>>4926532
Why not just go straight to rendering since that's faster?

>>4919557
How do I make my linearts look less cringe?

Can NOT using line weight properly genuinely screw up an artist's ability to convey 3D objects? I just started actually paying attention to line weight, especially in regard to overlapping objects, and idk my drawings just feel like they stand out more.

I have been struggling with conveying 3D forms for so long.. Have I disregarded a critical concept this whole time?

>>4921635
All I have is this I saved because I love studying anatomy that is exclusivly found only on either gender.

>>4922211
>I can't place my legs on the floor

Pull the lever under your office chair to lower the seat.

>and I can't put my elbow on the desk

Wtf? Clean yoyr desk off and make room. You don't need to keep all your action figures on your desk.

>>4926729
Yes.

I'm struggling with this myself. Like drawings of anime where they show two bits of skin (i.e thighs) touching each other, line gets thinner but everywhere else I don't understand. There is nuance and I can't find a good tutorial or book on it

>>4926781
Thicker actually! At least from what this Vipplu guy is telling me, anime thighs pressing together should create a darker, thicker line, due to the shadow.

The way I'm thinking is that they say not to draw outlines but to draw shadows. It would make sense for outlines to be as thin as possible and overlapping objects to produce a thicker and darker line.

Am I - admittedly a /beg/ on the right track here?

>>4926787
Bingo. You have to think with shadows. Thinnest lines should be the center of where light source hits and gradually thicken from there.

>>4926780
>Pull the lever under your office chair to lower the seat.
I mean I can't place my legs underneath the desk since there are drawers there

>>4926808
Literally...LITERALLY is this what could have been holding me back? NOT doing this?

I always take forever to draw a sketch let alone color it, how do people do completely colored drawings in such a short amount of time with no quality being diminished

For the nsfw artists that draw stuff copyrighted material, how do you tag your art on Twitter? I find it difficult to go about tagging stuff because I could be a sfw hashtag or I rather not disturb the creator if they are a indie developer. I know some fanbases that have a specific tag like Undertail vs Undertale.

>>4926929
Up your quality even a little bit each day and call that your final, repeat every day and you'll reach a certain fate.

>>4921539
Stop copying start studying. Also it's ok if they look like shit. No drawing should ever be precious to you and remember that every drawing, no matter how good or bad, still serves as practice for the next. You probably have trouble with thinking in 3d or you copy instead of actually studying

What is a good physical book to get for pose references?

Who is this man? And why does everyone talk about "feeling the form" with him?

>>4927693
it's andrew loomis dipshit and he went blind so he has to work on feel alone.

>>4927748
it's vipplu you black person

>>4926539
sometimes just mindlessly rendering give this result. construction on top of good gesture will avoid this without fail.

>>4921539
The trick is to find the reference you need. Lots of characters look similar so find a character that looks similar or use pinterest to find one. Maybe you'll find an exact ref. if not, you'll need one ref for lighting, one ref for posing etc. shoes, well find a shoe or a sketch of one that matches the angle or use your own shoes. You should be collecting loads of refs. A lot of the pros are pro because they hire models for shooting or have stacks of refs or even buy them or they make their own with 3d modelling. If it's anime or something 2d you can get away with imagination but if it's realism get a ref or die basically.

>>4925803
The brush you use depends on what your style is. If I want to be rei17 I'm going to be using a blendy hard round in SAI. If I want to be say Ruan Jia, I'll use textured brushes. I use about 7 brushes frequently - hard round opaque, hard round with transfer, soft round, thick up the top, thick down the bottom, a painterly brush and some interesting sketch brushes. But I have hundreds and hundreds of brushes.

>>4927770
retard

What anime girl should i draw?

>>4927945
kokkoro

>>4927945
balalaika

I dunno if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone know what it's called when a character in a manga "reaches" out of a manga panel Notice how in the bottom right corner, Dabi's upper half is in his own panel, but then his legs go out of it. I've always referred to it as "reaching" but i'm wondering what you guys call it?

How do I practice "form"

>>4927945
Koishi

How come Rule 34 of underage cartoon characters seems to be accepted?

I see loli stuff getting shut down more and more. Is this also happening to western rule 34 content and I just hear nothing about it?

It always seemed a bit odd how much of a focus it is for things like The Simpsons, etc.

>>4928084
draw lines over conceived forms. draw a circle, draw lines over it as if it were a sphere. put spirals around cylinders, write letters on the sides of donuts, draw tentacles squeezing teardrops, etc.

>>4928572
I don't know what a form is

>>4928600
then i guess you're doomed to failure.

>>4928607
All of the stuff you wrote was nonsensical

Are there any good online art courses that have assignments and feedback? Ideally nothing outrageously expensive.

I've been drawing for years and have lost some momentum and direction lately, and I usually benefit from a bit of structure to motivate me. Self-directed learning isn't as effective for me as it used to be.

I draw porn, among other things. I left tumblr when it was banned.
Now I miss the tagging system, longevity of posts, etc. Should I go back? How well is the porn ban enforced? Is there any userbase left?

>>4928600
>>4928084

Form is essentially the illusion of three dimensionality. All art is two dimensional, but you can imply 3d forms, or else it looks flat.

You can do it with light (IE part of a form is in shadow, implying a curve or edge), or with cross-contour lines (IE something that runs along a 3d form to imply its shape, like a wristwatch around your wrist).

Take this image as a primitive example. On the left is a flat shape, on the right the cross contour / shadows imply it's a sphere, showing form.

>>4927185
>copying
kinda i still struggle with drawing what I see. only to understand what i am looking at but breaking it down into 3d shapes or planes and trying to understand why i am precieving the subject like it is.
>thinking in 3d
its probably difficulty thinking in 3d, ive gotten somewhat better at it at least in finding the horizon line and VPs in images and irl, and able to draw a cube ok in perspective. I struggle with depth and overlaping forms. like if a person was laying down i wouldnt know how to rotate the figure in 3d space because i dont know where the pelvis or feet would be in space because i cant see them. I am not able to construct a 3d grid (let alone a partially zoomed in grid) in my head in which objects would interact within. Likewise if a part of the body (feet hands ass, etc) cover a majority of the picture plane like pict related i get completely confused.
i am probably overcomplicating it and should just draw

>>4928813
>rotate the figure in 3d space
Use reference for extreme or complicated situations like this. Once you draw from reference a few times, you'll be more able to visualize it yourself.

>>4928813
pic

How do I find artists to gain inspiration from? Seems like everything on insta and tumblr looks the same

>>4928615
did you really ask how to practice something without knowing what it was or why you should want to practice it, and then get annoyed that you couldn't understand the answer?

>>4928813
You only have 3 options.
Find a reference. A photo, illustration etc
Make a reference. Pose a 3d model, model it, whatever.
Grind extreme poses until you figure it out naturally.

When starting on guitar, it's recommended on /mu/ that you go to justinguitar and go through his courses. It's great for learning because he starts from the absolute beginning, such as how to even hold a guitar, to teaching you advanced techniques. Is there something like this for art? A structured course approach?

>>4928897
Art is a lot harder than music, especially because you will be shat on if you try and copy other people's artworks directly. It's like trying to compose a piece equal to a masterwork, but it can't be inspired by it.

And there's just so much of it. You might be a 2D master but you won't know 3D. You might know how to sculpt but you don't know how to rig. And so you have to focus on the most important parts of what you want to do, because you will never master all of it. So for me, that was figure drawing. For example, from proko. Then drawing and grinding hands. Then drawing and grinding drawing faces. Then drawing and grinding perspective. Then drawing and grinding environment and so on. There's lots of stuff that you won't get around to tackling so focus on what's important to you.

>>4928897
Short answer: Not really
Long answer:
Drawabox and loomis textbooks are often recommended. Neither is perfect, both are worth looking at. They will get you started with basic skills like perspective, proportion, and the human body.
Drawing is vaguer than playing the guitar. You can say, "play a C chord", and it's either correct, or it isn't. Visuals aren't so clear cut. There's no concretely defined list of tasks you must complete before you can say "I know how to draw."
The clearest rules are the ones to perspective (how to draw a 3d space). That won't teach you everything about drawing, but you can follow the Perspective Made Easy textbook in the artbook thread if it's useful for you.

where is the thread for like sharing video classes. schoolism rips, online-courses.club etc


i thought it used to be video general but i cant find any in the catalog, did we stop doing this shit?

>>4929052
It dropped off and no one made a replacement yet.

Everything worthwhile is in that one Mega and ic torrent anyway though.

>>4929052
>>4883198
it just tends to fall off and not come back right away because there's no dedicated baker and very few contributors

>>4929067
>>4929067
ah shit thanks, anyone have the torrent link?

Is there a scanning utility that lets you control how bright the actual light is? My scanner's light is so bright that it washes out the texture of my paper. I put some cellophane down to dull it, but it's not ideal.
Pic related. I want the texture to show because it adds to the piece and it's also good for backgrounds.

>>4929414
Does your scanner have settings to adjust the exposure? Otherwise you might be out of luck.

>>4926720
Hard low opacity brush.

>>4928556
/co/ is extremely strict when it comes to that
even stuff like tight clothing gets deleted

>>4928556
Because IT'S NOT RAEL.

>>4919562
>that one anon who doesn't understand how eyes work

>>4928600
Shape = 2D.
Form = 3D.

Is ic the last place that has eatpoo levels of crit or does anyone have other recommendations?

>>4926364
Sounds like me. My latest drawing took a week and 2 days, and I think it needs 2 more days until finished.

What's a good way to incorporate, for example, poems into paintings?
Also, is doing that a good idea?

>>4929526
It doesn't, just brightness/contrast/gamma after the fact.

What is 2ch's equivalent to 4chan's /ic/?

How do you even start doing commissions? Is there a certain website for it?

>>4931156
Text is usually not good to mix with paintings except in context eg on a poster that is inside the painting

What do you say when someone compliments your art?

>>4931387
jp forums are dead. I think the begs ook up random tutorials on pixiv. Not sure about int or higher.

Why are /crab/s called crabs?

>>4931487
Because crabs snib and snap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality
>>4931450
Thankyou

>>4931488
>Because crabs snib and snap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality
Fascinating, thank you

Where do I go to get crit on writing?

how can I copy the shading technique used at 33:00 here using clip studio paint? im not sure what he did with the pin thing on the layer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op6mFtTif1k

>>4931612
Looks like Colour Dodge or add. Btw you will probably have difficulty replicating the smoothness of the shading in any program that isn't SAI.

Any suggestions on a high quality Manikin that I could purchase I am willing to spend up to 200 dollars.

How do people draw lolis if having a reference would put them behind bars getting fucked by tyrone?

>>4931778
I'd get an anatomical mannequin from 3dtotal or something like that.

>>4931443
I posted my shitty art on DeviantArt, someone sent a request, I think that was a commission I refused.

How to add color to my line art? Should I drop a painted layer beneath it? Or should I use black/white values and gradient map it?

>>4931760
what makes SAI's better?

>>4931847
I don't know, it's just way smoother experience especially on the water colour brush. All of the relavent 2D art programs (PS, SAI, CSP) can be pirated so just give them a spin. On the other programs, what you probably want to do is gradient fill over a layer mask or a selection.

>>4931847
* of course all of them have the required layer mode, it's just the ease with which you replicate the smooth shading that can be a problem

>lineart that looks nice is a pain in the ass to color because of transparency
>lineart with no transparency is easy to color but looks like complete ass
how do I escape this hell

>>4932105
Just stop using lineart lol

>>4932201
painting is for people with incredible skill and patience and I have neither of those things

Best books/videos to learn lighting and shading and from different sources/intensities of light?

anybody had any luck using Photoshop on Linux with Wine or something?

>>4932105
What program are you working with? You can use the lineart with no transparency and apply a slight blurred edge along everything. In photoshop thats easy as fuck to do.

Anyone have that big chart that showed all the art fields as circles ranked by relation and skill level, e.g. shapes and lines at the top, volume gesture as bit more advanced etc.

>>4932682
Nope. You're going to have to figure out a different program to use.

>>4932694
why? i read somewhere that CC 2014 works fine

how do i get into figure drawing using digital, i want to follow proko course or other figure drawing courses but all of them are targeted towards traditional.
especially the tone/shading part, i can get past gesture, construction in digital and it's pretty useful to use layers to correct things.
but the problem is with shading.
how should i approach it in digital.
and any course/book/image or whatever cover this thing ?

>>4932719
here is some example i did copying other artist work and shadows.
i'm still uncomfortable with light though it always looks unnatural

>>4932719
figure out how to draw a ball, then try different things and find your favorite way of adding a core shadow. do the same for reflected light.

>>4932719
Ctrl paint courses

Rendering
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TOLh8o5PtZYr4KYq3yIkUXXnaiU3n6fi-FZMJ4-gqCc/edit
Sketching
https://online-courses.club/digital-sketching-starter-kit/
Color
https://online-courses.club/color-starter-kit-2/

I haven't tried them but I heard they're good (just found the links today digging the archive)

Does tumblr allow nsfw now? I'm out of the loop since the porn ban, I've heard that they brought it back up.


I tried google but I can't find shit aside from old articles when the ban was new.

>>4933332
No, but there are NSFW blogs around because the reporting is extremely lax. Technically they're at risk of being banned at any time, but that's not likely unless some dickshit reports them.

my teacher said art has to be public to be considered art and that you shouldnt save any art for yourself ever. Is he right?

>>4933456
No, that's absurd.
Obviously if you make something good you should let people see it, but that doesn't make it not art if you don't.

I need that for simplifying exercise

So recommend me a good resource

>>4933721
Where can I find hd pictures of multiple people in an environment

>>4919557
Is copying coom doujins a good way of improving my animu heads and perspective?

>>4919557
Okay, how to pistol grip please?

>>4932934
thanks anon i will check them out and work through them.
also looking at random artisti at artstation/youtube/ devianart i tried to follow and mimic their guide this is what i got

How do you guys fix the head looking like it doesn’t match the body? I don’t know why but they always look like they’re not part of the same figure but instead pieces from other figures stuck together.

is theere any art discord? Only found porn one.

>>4934361
Construction, proportion, anatomy, perspective...

>>4933815
please don't ignore me.

Does drawing NSFW art affect job prospect in anyway? I feel like drawing NSFW from time to time but I always refrain myself from doing it because I afraid it may make me unhirable in the future.

>>4934587
If you're learning something new from it, why not?

>>4934376
/las/ used to have one active discord but I'm not sure if it's still around.

>>4934789
The guy that ended up as art director for lilo and stitch drew naked pinup ladies all the time and it never stopped him from working at Disney. Nobody gives a fuck as long as it's separate from your public account attached to your name. You can make another and link to it or make a separate gallery for it on your portfolio website. As long as they're not intermingling nobody gives a shit.

Frank frazetta drew BBC cuck porn all the time and niggers jacking it solo and nobody cared

>>4934799
That's reassuring to hear, thank you.

Okay this is going to sound retarded, but how do I blend/mix colours in CSP?
I don't mean blending them with the blend tool, I mean if I have a local colour of red on a persons face, and I want to add a yellow light on top, how do I do this properly? Currently if I do it on the same layer, the yellow light just slaps on there completely and doesn't pick up on the underlying red. It's probably partially a problem with opacity, but I need the yellow to interact with the red as well as be somewhat transparent/opaque.
This is driving me insane because it's impossible to work with colour when it does this.

>>4935097
To add on to this, am I supposed to use different blending modes for layers when I do this?
When I use procreate "it just works", but CSP complicates it a lot.

I have stabilizer set on, in CSP, and it helps making straighter lines without zooming in, but /beg/ told me that using stabilizer is a bad idea and a crutch. Why is it considered a crutch?

>>4935142
Because it leaves line quality and decision making up to the computer instead of your hand. With stabilizer on you don't learn how to draw clean lines yourself and you're just fooling yourself into thinking you can.
Plenty of people use a bit of stabilizer though because digital software is imperfect and doesn't always map 1-to-1 with what you are doing.

>>4935154
I have it set at 5

Any advice on how can I structure my studies, having only 3 hours a day to focus on them?
There's so much stuff I need to keep practicing and I'm starting to get analysis paralysis because of it.

>>4935142
Personally I think it's a crutch if you have it set to 239487234 to the point you get lag, but if you're using a regular tablet (one without screen) it's going to be incredibly hard to get perfect clean lines without stabilizer. The reason some people don't use it is because they have a Cintiq or similar, so it's their hand directly drawing on a surface they see their lines on. Don't worry, use a bit of stabilizer, and with practice you'll probably lower the number as your hand gets used to the tablet. I've never seen people do lineart on CSP without stabilizer, yet they draw just fine on paper. If your lines are clean on paper but are shit in CSP, use stabilizer and don't worry.
>>4935097
There are a couple of different settings that factor into that, you'll have to play around with them until you achieve want feels good to you. Go to brush setting, and in the "Ink" section, check the box for "Color mixing" and play around with the newly unlocked values. If that's not what you like, uncheck the box. The other value that factors is, in the "Brush tip" section, the "Brush density"; check the "Pen pressure" box and try different values. Good luck.

>>4919557
Where's the best place to stream myself drawing?

Question: when you draw how conscious of measurements/proportions are you, and how do you keep things from looking wonky when it comes to drawings faces and heads? I've noticed when I draw I have the trouble of one eye being higher than the other, wrong nose or mouth width/length/etc. or turned wrong. Just things being off-kilter. How do you correct this? Do you eventually get a feel for it where you do it wrong enough times and eventually you subconsciously start doing it better?

ready for an actual stupid question you prolly answered to 1000 times already?

Where do I start? Like seriously. Lockdown got me loopy. I have minimal experience like drawing skeletal/muscular structures (badly) to study muscle groups for my anatomy classes and random doodles I usually do at 2am on deckboxes for the hell of it (pic related).

I like pencil/ink mostly, did watercolor once like 10 years ago when i was a kid and i liked it. I wanna try drawing but not sucking.

>>4935993
You don't have to be as conscious of it overtime. You also become more capable of thinking of multiple things at once, like with driving...

>>4936008
art is so freeing, you can start wherever you want. Here's a suggestion... just pull up pictures of cats tomorrow and draw them all day. Just learn cats inside and out and draw them from imagination a ton.

The fundamentals of construction can be learned and practiced by drawing anything, but you must practice them. Spheres, cubes, cylinders...

>>4936008
What I'd recommend is that you take a look at keys to drawing, drawing on the right side of the brain, and drawabox. Spend a bit of time reading through the first bit of each one and just pick the one you like the most. We're spoiled for good resources these days, so you''re not going to go wrong regardless of which one you choose.

Once you've got the very fundamentals out of the way, just start fucking drawing man. Like >>4936040 said, pick something and draw it. Just make sure you're actively trying to learn rather than just drawing to fill pages.

Any good sources to learn light and shadow? All I can find on light and shadow, and shading are in the ctrl paint store, but I can't pay.

>>4935142
Because /beg/ is stupid
Stabilizers are necessary because drawing tablets don't have the friction of physical paper
Don't use turbo ultra max stabilizer all the time, it can eliminate detail
>>4935097
Look up blend modes. They will change your life.
Put yellow layer on top of red layer. Change yellow layer's blend mode to whatever looks right. For instance, try using a glow dodge layer with a very dark yellow (light yellow will be too bright and wash out the red).
Try the watercolor brushes if you want literal blending.
>>4936063
Try studying well-lit, black and white photographs.

wanna do coomart but don't wanna watch porn cause it makes me uncomfortable, is there a book on positions and stuff i can reference

I want to color some things for fun but I want it to be like this, how? what should i buy?

>>4937065
waterproof black ink pencils for outlines

watercolor/gouache for color

watercolor paper + brushes to your preference

>>4937098
thanks

>>4919557
Does the distance between the shoulders and the graphic tablet matter or is it up to preferences? I think I have it around 35cm away.

Websites that have HD photos of fine art paintings? I want to do master studies of paintings.

I need help with drawing interior spaces for a webcomic, anyone has any useful resources?anything is fine it’s been driving me insane the last few days

>>4919557
I need to get better at drawing poses in perspective, is there a better way to practice than drawing poses from reference?

>>4938021
>Clip studio's perspective ruler tools
>3d modelling
>Taking your own photos
>>4938170
Studying perspective in general will help, but reference is very important.

>>4936184
i mean, doujins, i guess?

>>4937959

nvm google arts and culture is a good source

>>4919557
What the fuck is a "freehand sketch"

>>4938913
>freehand sketch = I drew this to flex on your pleb ass

>>4938920
I mean it seems redundant in the context that he's a illustrator who draws characters mostly, of course it's a freehand sketch. It's not like he's a architect or a engineer who mostly does drafting with a ruler

>>4919557
I'm trying to find references on booru sites for a specific sex pose.

Is there a name for a group of 3 or more girls all wearing strap-ons and they basically just fuck each other back-to-back in a single file line?

>>4938967
A train...?

Is there a way to reverse the layer order of importance in Krita or Photoshop? like having the first layer be the top one and then going from top to bottom

>>4939096
You should just be able to drag the layers you want first

>>4939095
weebs don't use that term on booru sites.

>>4939102
Yeah but I'd like to have my background as the top layer and then having each new layer go below it it doesn't really work if I just drag them manually eg. Since the white background is my top layer I won't see anything underneath

Sorry I don't know how to explain it clearly

>>4939116
You'll kind of have to get used to having the layers ordered with things on top of the white. It's like layers of paint, if you've painted over something generally you won't see under it. Of course, there's tricks around it. For example, I can make the white layer "appear" translucent by setting it to multiply, but the instant you put paint on top of that you'll see that paint as really dark. You really want to get your mind around it.

In terms of the white layer in photoshop, that can be unlocked (because by default there's a lock symbol on it preventing you from deleting it).

Say you want to keep the white layer somewhere but don't want to delete it. You can select the eye icon next to it and this hides it. And you can make it visible any time you want.

>>4939122
I see it does makes perfect sense irl each transparent sheet would go on top of the previous.
I don't even know why I visualised it reversed before, my brain might be upside-down.
I visualise it correctly now I think. Thank you

>>4939154
It takes time to get used to but a lot of programs work the same way

>>4939155
I use Krita mostly since I just started a week ago Photoshop is a little bit overkill for me and drawing softwares look kinda terrifying to be honest.
So many options took me hours just to see what all the brush pressure options like "flow" did and set up a good pressure curve for them

>>4939172
They look terrifying but generally once you know one you know one 2d software you know them all. All of em have layer palettes, layer styles etc.

>>4939200
about layer styles or blending modes is there like 2 or 3 I should absolutely know about?

>>4938913
I think some artists get a little pretentious with the way they word things after they have enough skill
I’m gonna assume he doesn’t mostly draw with heavy construction or use of point and click vectoring. He must’ve said free hand to sound more impressive

>>4938913
The eyes are fucked and are pointing indifferent directions, also the fat face. Embrassing.

>>4927693
thats burne hogarth

>>4939550
You eventually learn them all but I'd say multiply and overlay are the most useful for beginners. I have a fondness for Colour Dodge as well.

ok, so i've been practising drawing on and off a litte bit for the past few months.

i've started to notice something strange where, i'll be drawing something (say a character), and it'll be OKish, but then i'll get some detail perfect, and from that detail it suddenly becomes crystal clear how everything else needs to be drawn, to the point that when this happens, it typically involves erasing half of what's already there because it doesn't jibe with the 'perfect' details.

what the fuck is this? is this advanced autism? am i turning schizo, or does this sort of instinct normally develop as you start to practise drawing?

can anybody relate? makes me feel possessed

dae hyper fixate on detail in such a way where you exhaust yourself and hate the drawing? i do everything on an 11inch ipad but i'm wondering if instead i could put down lines and basic colors on my phone first - then transfer the art to the ipad to refine, would it be a smoother process?

idk i'm just trying to find a way to stop spending 50 hours on something that started out "okay this will just be a fun quick paint, idc if it's perfect"

thanks all

>>4940514 here

but actually >>4940498 explains my issue better! didn't see your post but this is essentially my problem as well

I'm new to instagram
so i made a post with a few tags
went to check the tags i posted my work in, and it's not in any of em
what am i doing wrong here

>>4919557
Sorry for the extremely retarded question, but when someone says 'Study the skull' what do they actually mean. Like study which bones bump on the face and the structure of the mouth, nose, etc? Also how do you apply the knowledge (of the skull) when doing stylized stuff like animu?

>>4919557
Please I need to know. Usually what size is the most convenient to make illustrations?
I mean at what point if I zoom in should I start seeing pixels?

pic related is 21 x 18 inches at 300 pixels/inch and the base size of the pencil brush is 21px.

So proko/watts recommend smooth newsprint. Any alternative for us in 3rd world countries?

>>4940927
It depends on you but for reference I use B4 ~ 3 size which is around 3035×4299 pixels.

Do creature drawings like pic rel have a niche in the market? (if done without sexual intent)

>>4940942
Print paper. buy a 500 sheet paper ream, they cost around 3 ~ 7 bucks and they last you for around 3 ~ 4 months

I'm easily distracted and end up doing random stuff to avoid learning art. Is there anyway I can stop constantly browsing 4chan or quit the other distractions?

>>4940999
What if i want to draw in bigger paper?

>>4941036
draw what you like and you'll get hooked

English twitter users are the most annoying faggots on earth and I'm finally deciding to clear out who I follow throughouly, the only problem is whats the best way to go about doing it quickly? I'm currently manually going through everyone I follow and trying to put them into 'categories' (ex. mutuals, people that I will follow until the day I die, people I don't give a fuck about etc) but the problem is that I follow 1k people like a lunatic; what's everyones tips/advice to make the process faster?

>>4941049
Buy A1 paper then

So i'm a beginner studying gesture and construction but want to learn some anatomy. Can't i just copy bone structures and muscles in art books such as "Anatomy for sculptors" or "Human anatomy for Artists" even though they are too hard for me? If i push through with copying will i get better at them?

>>4941134
Just ditch your timeline altogether and keep a list to track those you follow instead and check in however regular you want instead of being a subject to social media grip.

>>4941256
Focus on gesture drawing and copying poses, you don't need to be a medical doctor but knowing some surface structures is helpful.

>>4941277
Oh yeah that's what i'm talking about. I know that copying poses and gesture is way more valuable right now but i want to know if just copying bone and muscle structure straight through is the way to approach learning some bone and muscle anatomy? Like if i want to draw a skeleton can i just copy all the bones and stuff straight through, line by line? Or is there another process for it? This is after i get fed up with just gesture and poses and want to get straight into skeletons and muscles.

>>4941300
It's much more effective just to copy the naked human body than to copy what's inside it unless you want to illustrate muscle and bone. Most people won't need to draw muscle and bone unless you are going to be a horror artist.

>>4941302
Oh okay that makes more sense. Thanks for answering mate, appreciate it!

Is pixel art the most viable digital art form for a mousefag?

There was this guy on here a while ago who said he was beg but posted some bitchin illustrations, like these huge white box-like drones, or the deep diver girl surrounded by fish (a fighting game character concept i think). Either I cant find it, or he deleted his thread now - so does anyone here have his work saved (esp. the diver girl)?

>>4941425
Use >>/ for old threads

>>4941409
Yes. In fact I wouldn't use a tablet to do pixel art. Make sure you animate them.

>>4941262
That is a fascinating idea, I'll give it a try. Thank you.

Where would I begin to understand how to paint in this block-ish way. I know its facial planes, but that's all I got.

>>4919557
What's the software thingy that artists use to make process videos on twitter?

Is there any reliable way to expose an art thief and hurt their reputation, or can nothing be done, realistically?

>>4919557
What the hell is eightstudio and why half of korean anime artists have it in their twitter bio?

>>4941832

Bugmen hive mind

>>4940640
Thanks for nothing faggots

What kind of art is this? If I want to find more like it what do I search for?
Pic related

>>4943176
https://www.artstation.com/channels/environmental_concept_design?sort_by=trending&dimension=3d
enjoy

I want to do stuff that's less literal, lots of style and focus on feeling free, think Yuasa or Blake but I'd need to still do fundamentals and complete realism before that right? I'm not sure I can spend a lot of time drawing so any help, advice
I'll use Picasso as an example, he understood the way things worked before being able to twist so it seems like thats the only path

>>4940998
>Do creature drawings like pic rel have a niche in the market? (if done without sexual intent)
No, they need to be fucking cars and you can profit off the redditors.

Everyone says to draw for yourself, but why do they keep posting their stuff online then? What's the point if it's for yourself?

Is there a commissions thread?
I heard there is some starving artists here willing to make scribbles for me, but I don't see a general

How do I convert Ctrl Paint's basic brushes (abr,tpl files) into CSP brushes?

>>4944032
If you are looking for cheap commissions, check the drawthreads on /v/, /h/, or whatever board fits what you want to get. You may get something from here as well, but I'd check those first.

How do I paint like this? Is there any specific resource I should focus on, or is it just a case of learning how to paint and getting gud?

>>4941607
It might just be that they are using Procreate, it has a built-in timelapse feature that works really well and I wonder every day why other programs don't copy it.

Where's a reliable/safe place to pirate latest versions of Clip Studio PaintEX?

>>4944032
>>>/aco/4571783

>>4943865
Vanity. Also they might inspire similar works or art of their OCs.

Ctrl Paint uses three basic brushes hard round, soft round and hard flat. What would the equivalent default brushes be in CSP?

>>4944387
Quickest answer is there isn't any. I've saved you years looking for the answer.

>>4944389
How am I supposed to learn how to paint digitally then?

>>4944438
Just look at what Ctrl Paint does and play with all the brushes in CSP.

Would going though KJG's sketchbooks and redrawing them while analyzing them and thinking about them critically be a good way to tackle different subject material, perspectives, compositions etc, or would I be better off drawing from life and photo reference?

>>4944487
The latter.

is it just me or for the past week /ic/ has been really slow and dead.

>>4944187
Nowhere. You have to buy it. 1.9.4 is the latest cracked version because everyone pissed off the cracker. There's a loader bypass but all advanced tool settings and things like rulers are unusable.

That being said 1.9.4 is good enough.

How do I write a comic

What are the tools that can be used to achieve a drawing style like this?
I ask the question for traditionnal AND digital.

What's a good manga reading app for iOS?

I'm taking a break from art for a bit and don't plan on using procreate for a long time, so I may as well use my ipad as an e reader.

Are colleges just paid off by adobe to shill photoshop, literally nowhere teaches anything other than photoshop.

>>4945328
1) All the job ads require Photoshop
2) It's the best program still hands down.

>>4945328
PS is industry standard retard, imagine going into Disney or Pixar and telling them you don't know the house tools.
>b-buh I know da clib stubio and kirita :DD i maek mangas :DDD
Kys

>>4945430
Especially because PS is the easiest program hands down to pirate. Simply run an installer and Bob's your uncle. The amount of bad art on this board I've seen simply because people are simply too stubborn and/or not willing to put in the effort to learn PS is amazing.

>>4945444
do you honestly think what program someone uses actually makes them better at drawing?

>>4945447
When it's loaded to the brim with cheats, of course

>>4945430
>wanting to work for the jews

>>4945473
Would you rather die starving, fucking retard

Id rather starve then work for shekelberg goldstein

>>4945473
>>4945480
t. third worlder drawing on kirita hoping to make it tracing anime girls

>>4945536
ok goyim

>>4945557
shouldn't you be carrying water from the river to your village right now?

If I pay a commission with an amazon giftcard, what kind of info can the artist see?

>>4945560
No because im not a poojeet sucking israels cock

>>4944690
Thanks Anon I found a torrent of it on 1337x & now I can finally ditch my old ass Manga Studio 5!!
Sadly the keygen had no music :(

>>4945594
>Sadly the keygen had no music :(
Rip!
But at least you can use the online clip studio assets even for the cracked version :D

>>4945563
please respond i need to pay

>>4944164
Reminds me of oil painting.

>>4941594
Light and shadow.

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>>4946258

where do I find a good mac torrent for cinema4d i have a week until midterms and i need to make my deadline but i dont have access to school computers

>great control with a regular pen
>try digital
>can't even draw an ellipse
Fuck, What do I do?

>>4947218
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>>4947218
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>>4947218
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